SF Giants Bullpen Struggles vs Rockies & Bryce Eldridge Power | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_00]: welcome back to Thompson to Clark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We recorded the middle of last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we were pretty caught up on Giants News and Giants baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all we had was this weekend's series in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about that series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Giants have made a ton of roster moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of them I don't quite understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not exactly sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll need to hear from Buster Posey himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you can get back on K and BR and talk about shouldn't I be congratulated for not signing Diaz and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They play it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're playing right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when Brad and I do these shows and the giants are playing, it is really hard to not pay attention to the score.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have to we have to be cognizant of the idea that a lot of people are going to listen to this after the game's already over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to know what the result is and we're here talking about the game as if it's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're not really going to focus on the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's actually took it to a lead, thanks to a Maddie Chapman home run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then immediately, Brandon Roop gave up seven in the bottom half of the second inning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's just for the better that we don't even, we just pretend like this game is not even going on as we speak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we, we always like to mention these group chats that we have because, you know, for me, it's like, it's really outside of my dad every once in a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really the only giant conversations we're having here a little bit of the disc in the discord, the group chat and that's about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And man, I don't remember, I mean, not we've been more mad because we had, we had expectations earlier in the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we have no expectations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe embarrassed is the better word for Fridays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just, I don't even know how to describe that game and what happened on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I look at that game a little bit different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think then everybody else, and I'm sure you probably will get my point when I say this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have had Brian Wilson in his prime, and it's Colorado, so that still could have happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not excusing it at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, everybody talked about it going into this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This team just didn't have the bullpen, then it never closed or Brian Walker was not the answer and we have everybody knew that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you could have gone, I mean, it's Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have a game like that in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they come back two days later in score 19 runs and don't even have to worry about a closer because it's Colorado Colorado is like playing in Wonderland if you're Alice and you go down the rabbit hole and you end up you know if you're if you're Alice and you're playing baseball and you go down the rabbit hole and you end up in Colorado it's just the way it is it's Wonderland all kinds of weird stuff happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can go in there and sweep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can go in there and get swept.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the giants have gone in there and lost three games in a row before when they've scored eight runs a game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, things happen in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, not excusing it at all, but I think any closer could have gone in there and got blown up just because you had that weird play with the ball that rolled towards first base and hit the back and just kind of opened everything up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: it just was not their night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But just using a game like today as an example, again, we're not going to follow the game or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when the hitting starts to feel like it's starting to get on track, the pitching takes a dump.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's been the entire season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When pitching is dominated, and then the bullpen looks great,

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[SPEAKER_01]: hitting his garbage and this team just and I think we talked about it last week too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This team just cannot get on track in all phases of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a two-nothing lead in Milwaukee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You should be able to hold it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a three-run lead in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I just use the example.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like playing in Wonderland, but still you should for the most part be able to hold that lead, but you just can't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's it's a frustrating it's a very frustrating team right now so so we're we're always looking for the bright spots and and you know bringing up a guy like Jonah Cox I mean that that's fun to see making some moves today that's fun to see so we're we're excited to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we excited to be back in the Farhan era?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that with all of the stuff that moves that are happening?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of which Farhan was renting the team right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so the reason why the Rockies thing was so frustrating is because when we had talked,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had just gotten over the Giants losing 3 to 2 to the Diamondbacks, getting swept against the Diamondbacks and, you know, it's fine, you know, you go into Arizona and you lose these games, great home to him should win and then you come home and they spank you even harder and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you get the reprieve and I mentioned this on that show, I said, look, you get Colorado

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's after Colorado, it's hell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the brewers and it's the cubs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this version of this baseball team, I don't have high hopes at all for this for this upcoming weekend giant space ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you look at you go, well, let's at least take two at a three from Colorado and maybe you can have a little bit of momentum.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the Giants did exactly what they're going to do this year, which is they lose in excruciating fashion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The next night, they're not even competitive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Sunday, they're like, we just put up 19 runs and I'm just laughing because I'm like, yep, this is the game that Adomas hits a grand slam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When it absolutely doesn't effing matter, he's gonna know it and slam.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to, I want to battle you on that point though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you said that yesterday, I thought,

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[SPEAKER_01]: But but there were only up seven to three in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just saw what happened on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought like that was a meaningful grand slam.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to have a now an eight run lead in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because it was kind of early in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought, okay, I'm going to give William break on this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He actually hit a meaningful only because it was in Colorado a meaningful home run at that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that was for me though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My point though is if they were losing seven to three he's striking out like that's just the way that it works for him this year and this is nothing to do against with Willie I said on this show at the beginning of the season I said

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[SPEAKER_00]: Willie is so good-natured that if the giants get some some good vibes, he's going to be the leader in that because he's such a positive person you want to see that dude succeed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He plays baseball the smile on his face in a game where sometimes you get a Jeff Kent who's a little grumpy and you get a fonds who, you know, he's got little grumpy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you say Jeff Kent was a little grumpy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, bond this is got the poker face going, you know, all day long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to see someone like Willie now can't sometimes that get away from him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because he's going to be under the the microscope all season long simply because he lost track of the outs and people are thinking that he's because he's talking to the other team too much and Buster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: even sort of made it seem that way, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in so many words.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not, I'm not down on Willie in any way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want that man to succeed and to be a guy for the giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it just hasn't happened this year yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, more than likely, you know, he's going to have this up and down season where he's going to get some hits and they're going to be in games with the giants aren't competitive in because they're not a very competitive team right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not, you know, I'm not really picking on him as much as it's just a microcosm of what the season has been like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where was that what the base is loaded in the 13 and when we were tied.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they went 19 to six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And your guy, Jonah Cox comes in, gets his major league debut, major league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First never major league hit against the positional player, but so like accounts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, for one day, there's good will and there's fun, but the skeptic in me, I'm just like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, if, you know, maybe if you spread out those 19 runs a little bit more around those games, maybe we sweep and we're talking about a different thing and I know baseball doesn't work that way, but sometimes it just doesn't make sense and this season, yeah, there there are some things this season that make a lot of sense, you talked about it in the beginning, the lack of bullpen and you know, I was kind of like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, poor Caleb Killian goes out there and gives up the gives up the game and then the very next day or no, no, it was yesterday, I think he came in in the sixth inning and I'm like, okay, well, what is his role if he's closing one night and then he's coming in the sixth inning the next night, you know, I do think there's some psychological stuff with these relievers where

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[SPEAKER_00]: they probably would love to know kind of, you know, when they should be prepared mentally, you know, they should be prepared all the time, but when am I, you know, when am I going to be given the ball?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it going to be in the eighth inning?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or is it going to be in the sixth inning?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's something to that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Vatelo, we, I think we have,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were hard on him early because he was saying some knucklehead things, but I think we've pulled back on that and said, look, he is kind of learning on during these games with a very flawed roster, including

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[SPEAKER_00]: the bullpin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you want to give a first year manager, something to really, really help him and to make him comfortable, you give him a good bullpin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the bus is like, no, we're just not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's unapologetic about it, which at that's the part I don't get as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like kind of flaunting the fact that he didn't go and get Edwin Diaz.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, dude, at least like the team that you are competing against, that doesn't even see you as a competitor

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[SPEAKER_00]: is spending money, and you're making fun of them for spending money, and somebody gets hurt by the way, and then you give up all of these games because you don't have any dependable arms late and late in the game, and so now it's like

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[SPEAKER_00]: The start, you know, and we, it's like, we aren't, you know, we're not the only ones who talked about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we talked about the lack of bullpen and the back end of this rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, because you are you and you are an optimist, you're like, hey, maybe Malie and maybe Houser and maybe they give us some good innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they have had a handful of good starts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have also had a few games where a defensive slip up here and all of a sudden houses out in the fourth inning and it was like, wait, those are three good innings and then the fourth inning and who's out of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did not want to spend any money at the back end of this rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have

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[SPEAKER_00]: a rotation that is very inconsistent and you have a bullpen of no names that the only thing that is holding them back from being one of the worst bullpins in baseball is that you actually throw your starters a half decent and you know good amount of innings so you don't you're not just turning it over to the bullpen like crazy that's what's really saving this bullpen for being one of the worst ones and like that is all predictive from what we were talking

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[SPEAKER_00]: your big market team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You dumped all this money into these three players and now we're going to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we're going to cry a Tampa Bay raise when it comes to our bullpen and the back into the starting rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is not competing with the Dodgers or the Padres.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That like that is just saying, hey, we should be good enough to compete for the last wild card.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is not saying, hey, we think we can beat the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's really the kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he busters an old in the team and we got to deal with this Greg Johnson BS and all of those things are valid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I wish Buster would be a little bit more upfront about some of this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's got a really good back and forth with the media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's probably like feeling comfortable talking to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm looking at it like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, why are you making a joke about this thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This baseball team is terrible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't want to go to Oracle at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't want to pay for any of these tickets because it's just go bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's probably thinking like, I know these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And these are these are my pals from back when I was playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's probably not even as dire as I'm making it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just wish that he would show a little bit of accountability and go yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we need to make some moves, we need to get this thing going, and we need to figure out what it is, and it's on me, and I'm the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the answer to this, I'll tell you what the answer is not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The answer is not firing your third base coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is not the answer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No matter how bad hector board was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: firing your third base coach is a little bit of a distraction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit of a magic trick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, let's, you know, all the heat, let's keep it over here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, we're over here doing nothing with the roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we heard today, Gary Pettis might be in the running to come coach in their base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know we thought it was a, we thought it was official at first, but now it's not official.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not special yet, not official quite yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That looks like there's the ghost shades is happening, but you're a big WOTUS guy, you know, could we get a little bit more WOTUS influence here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of the through line to the old days, um, really the only guy left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think the problem with that is I think he's just on the older end and he doesn't want to hear the travel and he doesn't want to do all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we missed our opportunity to have more voters in our lives, which I think we all need.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have loved to actually before Gabe Kapler, I would have loved to have a shot after Bochi, but I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: and we're not, we're not reporters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just read everything and we're fans, you know, who just loved this game very much and follow it like, you know, like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But from what I remember back in the day, it was more like, I don't know if world is going to be that guy because

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody thought he wanted to follow his buddy Bochi in the dugout after what Bochi just did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Bochi won three championships and then went to the playoffs again in 2016 and they were kind of like, you know, I don't think that was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they're needed to be a little bit of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now he's on the older end and so we're not going to get voters in our lives like we should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody needs a vote is in their lives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what is, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hunter Pence has a great nickname for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, of course, I just forgot it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, it's, you know, everybody loves the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, having Gary Pettis, I think would be fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and I thought too, because he was in Houston.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dusty Baker gave him a quick buzz and was like, hey, we got an opening for a third of the base coach, you were in my third base coach, you were in charge of running, you know, the running coordinator for this for the Astros team for years and years, hop on over, we've got a third base spot open for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's basically coming out of, you know, quote unquote retirement because I think the last time we was in Houston was 24.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so it, it's, it's gonna take some money to, to bring them back out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I think that would be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this team needs more of that in the dugout, more of that on the field is, you know, guys like Ron Washington guys like Gary Pettis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, how old are we?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had these guys

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mark Nobita, who is a sometimes listener to this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he had told me one time, like, they were childhood buddies or they were buddies and they're youth or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Gary's son played a little bit for the 49ers Dante, but he wasn't great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was he BYU?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he come out at BYU?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good question, I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he was saying that, you know, dusty guy, like just like you said, right, like a like a dusty guy who for whatever reason just didn't what wasn't on a team or didn't get picked up or whatever, maybe, you know, maybe people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of what you just said about what it's like, he's a little, little longer in the tooth and maybe we're letting some of these guys expire before their youth, their, their usefulness is gone, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we have Ron Washington in camp and, you know, he's on the older end and he's been a benefit to arise for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So bringing in someone like Pettis

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[SPEAKER_00]: Guys like Gary Pettis, when my fandom as a child was at its highest, guys like Gary Pettis were playing baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I was collecting all the cards, when I could reel off like most of the starting lineups on every single team because all I was doing was reading box scores from games,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... i was playing a status pro baseball with the yearly uh... rosters and and new everybody's stats and so that makes me smile because i'm like oh man gary pettist this is like you know it's like my childhood so i'm all for it like bring him in like yeah i'm i'm down and look the guy was a base dealers that you know that was his whole thing was being able to run so

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I hope he knows that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we don't have a lot of speed so he's got to know He's like the Gary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not you running around third Yeah, maybe that's the head of the universe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is diverse round.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe that's the hesitation He's like, I don't know man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just watched Bryce Aldrin drawn I don't know if I could be her third base coach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm kidding Bryce Aldrin just a little you know me I love speed right up

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I love Bryce Eldridge because he's really starting to come into his own.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got another double today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they do cannot run, he's he's really rough to watch running so that that's that that's that's a little bit hard for me when he had to double and he's Loping into second base kind of like building right like this tall lanky guys like yeah speaking of price in and out of the ballpark you know exactly speaking of price he had a good series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's getting more a piece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's playing even against lefties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's good to see him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, and now I'm pretty hard on this team right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty critical, but it's not these guys are rolling over and playing dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they are, they're, they're going out there, they're playing ball, they're just, they're just not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: great answers or solutions to their problems right now and, you know, lots of what we'll go over the roster stuff in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's been great see Bryce like he hits that long double and, you know, immediately, I make fun of these guys on Twitter who are like, that ball would have been out in every park, but I love that I love that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, you know, who

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... willy maize or parry bonds or likes any of the any of the real sluggers they're like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hit the ball off the wall and I'm going I'm going double triple like that that's what that's what happened If I if I don't get a home run, I didn't deserve a home run like we're not he's not he complaints here So you're not thinking he when he stands a second base of candlesticks parkies not sitting or going in Atlanta Well, it may's what always say that because of the wind he believes that he lost you know 40 home runs or whatever, but he would say it in this like

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[SPEAKER_00]: That that just shows you how bad S I am because even using 40 jacks I still hit 660 right and that's just baseball Yeah, I mean that's he would say it in a way that was like that's just the way it is that's baseball

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's it's great to see him now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know playing him endeavors at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is not you're not creating maximum flexibility and line up, you know, flexibility and all this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you got to see you got to give the kid a chance because this is already a lost season and the better divers hits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there's a possibility you can move him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still don't think you can move him without eating a lot of that money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he would be somebody that you would think about moving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw that I think it may have been Susan Sluster reported that she asked him about the crazy fandom and he was talking about getting like really nasty Twitter emails and stuff from fans like come on like that's that's that's that's that's that's that's that's

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know we we we have a show where we can be critical because these guys are this is how you cover sports and you know we all we both grew up and we were both sales estate grads of where you know you're you're covering things and you did play by play so it's not like we're just picking on guys to pick on guys like if it was up to me

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[SPEAKER_00]: everything about this team would be sunshine and rainbows because that would just mean that we're just really good team and I would have nothing to complain about but they're not so you do have to be critical but in this scenario you're for something like Matt Chapman who's a gamer who plays almost every game unless he's unless he's injured which he was injured for a decent amount last year and so what did he struggling I've pointed out his bat now he's starting to heat up and you go

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he's heating up like that's how you discuss this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you, you criticize when people are not doing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you praise when they are doing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's how this thing works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if his bat comes fully back and he's all of a sudden hit 260 and, you know, getting on base, then you're like, hey, he's turned it around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I say that to say, I think the team itself, where they are today,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They probably benefit less of a really good match Chapman because Casey Schmidt is not playing the right position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you want to invest in the future and if you want to give the kudos to the guy who's playing well, you would like to see Casey Schmidt play a little bit more third base, but that's Chapman's position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if Chapman starts playing better, maybe you can move him too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I'm a team that is contending,

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[SPEAKER_00]: His bat is not fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but his glove is still amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you do have a spot there and you are lacking a third baseman, you will not find many better than him, especially if you're looking at improving your defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that could still happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, all that say, I'm happy that Bryce is getting the A.B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he needs to get these repetitions so that when the giants are possibly good again, he's ready to roll.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you feel, because I know I would like to see it, but how do you feel about Casey Schmidt at second base going forward?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the rise of most likely going to get moved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We keep talking about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We keep hearing about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know we made it jail class week that like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the offense right now, and he has to keep you up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody else is starting to kind of heat up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's the he's my favorite type of player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love to watch Louise arise play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would hate to see him go what he has to because you have Bryce Aldridge because you have Rafael Devers and because you have Casey Schmidt and Matt Chapman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's got to be an ex-factor that has to leave the team and Luis Horizon's on one year deal that's your guy, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the guy that's got to leave.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you feel about Casey Schmidt and second base?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's fantastic fit for him necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think for him, he's probably looking for any opportunity to play and he's probably, okay, he's probably happy with starting anywhere, but I think to maximize him as a player, you should probably want to play him where he's most comfortable where he's growing up and remember, I think he may have even came up as a short stop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: just him you you want him to be comfortable where he is and second base is hard man there's I remember I remember when I was going to baseball camps and stuff and you know you'd have the middle infielder and the old the old guy middle infielder was like why do you guys want to play second or like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have the arm to play short, and he's like, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, yeah, but second basement have to run so much if to back up every day on position is like, yeah, no, I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, second base, you're always the, the one who puts the most, you know, the most miles on your spikes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_00]: is Casey Schmidt the guy that you want, running around so much, I would just rather sit him at the corner and just say, hey, man, yeah, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hang out, you know, bang out your 20 jacks and, and let's see what you got.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, he's still hitting, uh, he's still hitting very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, a rise has got, I think a rise is still hitting over 320.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Casey's like, you know, he's at 295 or whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's still hitting for power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I would love to just give him a chance, because I think, you know, we've been waiting for him to prove himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm proving myself, guys, it's like, okay, let's reward that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, unfortunately, he's got a, you know, many time gold Glover in front of him for the next several years, unless they do figure out how to, how to move him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As a plan B, I think Kasey Schmidt is fine at second base, but I think for his plan A, he's got to be on the other side of the infield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know how you move Chapman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be the hard part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chapman can't be at the age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We already got a day and you don't want to take that glove off the field, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the hard part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Giants are just in the situation now where.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think Casey Schmidt kind of took everybody's by surprise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He started becoming that guy this year, and I think that just kind of put a monkey wrench in everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, it's a good monkey wrench.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like it, you know, this is a bad problem or anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a, you've got a bunch of guys who can play, and they all excel at different things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what makes up a good baseball team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have the same, you know, you can't have nine guys at all do the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just not going to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We said that we weren't really going to do a long show today because we just did one last Thursday after the after they lost to the the Diamondbacks, but I did want to go over a lot of the moves that they have made of late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Logan Webb was reactivated, and when is he going?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do we know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Logan Webb?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he threw on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: pitch really well in Carl Colorado and that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He came back was trying to think for any reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm doing math Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He should be back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He should be pitching against Milwaukee on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything lines up again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and he pitched well, that was the hard part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He pitched really well on Colorado, gave up one run and then the bullpen again, Colorado, gave it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so looking at his line here, he went.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where is it here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He went four and a third, three hits, one run three walks, five strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the bullpen picked him up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't until the last two innings that Keaton win and Killian man, his port ERA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Point, two thirds of it innings, five earnings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tough one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, so Logan Web is back and unfortunately today for Lenin Rupu is, you know, I, I feel like he'd been throwing the second pass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Robbie Ray grunted through the game yesterday, but man, you know, when you almost need those three guys to be lights out to have a chance to win a series these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what's kind of frustrating about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so going back to the other roster moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Harrison Bader then goes on the 10 day because he's got a little issue with his foot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they brought Wilburne back up and then they sent Wilburne back down and brought up Jonah Cox.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Poor guys all over the place, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Jonah Cox, who is from Richmond.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not even at AAA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's leading all of a double a baseball in batting average, but he's not really a prospect, he's a little older.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then today, I swear to God when you told me who these guys were, I thought you were making up players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I literally did, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, when I saw that first name, I was like, did I, am I following the right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Blue sky account, because I don't, I've never heard of this guy before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Butty Kennedy, I, that's a name you make up when you're playing MLB the show road to show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, butty Kennedy's got dreadlocks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's six foot eight, you know, that's not the guy that we're seeing today, but the, butty Kennedy is 27 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right handed hitter first basement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Career 178 batting average 157 abies and yeah has not done much yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The best maybe the best thing about him is he is the grandson of former big

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to look that one up to because I was like, is he is Don money because I saw him is minor league side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just said grandson of Don money, and I thought it's like a W-W-U-R-Square.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't like for like the Yankees or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, where do you who do you play?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Philadelphia and Milwaukee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Donna okay this was this was pre us okay played throughout the 70s he played into the early 80s as well there were some seasons where he had 25 jacks so Don Money's best season 1977 with Mill walkie 25 jacks 83 RB eyes knit 279 He played he played with the 82 brewers so that means he's a world series champ right Yeah, good for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don money to brewers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go, don money

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's about the year, that's about the year that I started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: following other teams than the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was it was like branching out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was that that Cardinals brewers 1982 world series was when I was like, okay, and I was nine years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's a it's an Amazon prime or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a documentary about that brewers team out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of that I wanted to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because that had Matt Alphabowski on on that thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then, they selected the contract of right-handed picture and I swear to God, you were joking again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wilkin Ramos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wilkin Ramos is actually a pretty big dude, six foot six, those kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't tell by what these stats are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so I think this, I think he's a first time big leader and he was in Sacramento as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what this means.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you tell me if I'm just being

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[SPEAKER_00]: negative again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds to me like they're just bringing up guys that they know that they can burn because they just need spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's less about that these guys are actually the real deal and that they have futures though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at Wilkins numbers, he's to have it a pretty good season, you know, from the this year and last year when it comes to the minor leagues,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, he's doing fairly well, low ERA about a, about a strike out and ending, and he's been doing that for the last two years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, he's got something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know anything about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have never heard anything about him at all?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's, it was not why I thought it was fake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what they're doing because I also the giants are very, very thin in any kind of reliever prospect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so any reliever that the giants bring up right now is just like, you know, can't bring up cars and wisdom hunt to throw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it down a to two in the fifth inning against the brewers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That man should get 15 starts this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to see what they think of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're moving that way with Maui and Houser, the way they're pitching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Maui went on the deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Maui went on the deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why McDonald's is sticking around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then with, you know, Houser, I mean, another stinker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're looking at the possibility that he could be gone too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like he would be on the cusp of a, you know, possible removal from the rotation if he didn't have another year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got to pay him another year next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that's the problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think when Malie comes back, you can always put a Malie in the bullpen and bring up Wizz and Hunt and he could take his spa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a lot of different things you could do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I almost forgot about Land of Roof until he, you know, got blown up today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one of those things, too, is like, and then Robbie Ray is going to be gone at some point as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's going to be a lot of, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a lot of rotation and bullpen movement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think in the next month or so, I thought Luis Verizon was going to be gone by June 1st after Patrick Bailey was traded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, okay, Luis Verizon is the next one to go because Casey Schmitt is hitting the crap out of the ball, they're going to want to put him at second, they're going to want to play Elderidge every day, you know, this and that, but now they've got

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[SPEAKER_00]: Casey Schmidt and the Alfield, so that kind of changes things a little bit, but they probably just like arise too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, and yeah, he's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Down season here's one of the, one of the bright spots that we can kind of just roll out there every day and he's going to just be a professional baseball player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I did two, three years ago, if he would have been with us, I would have said, Son, I'm two or three year deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you can't, I mean, I see a lot of talking to everybody's like, so extend him now, it's a great brings me said that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wrote a piece on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, where's he going to play though?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got to read that piece.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, you extend him and it's like, what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What does it do for the rest of everybody else?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless you're going to make, you know, unless you're going to move Elliot Romos and make Casey Schmidt a permanent left shoulder, I don't know how you would work that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think if you decided to move Chapman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you could re-up arise, but, you know, killing is coming up and you would think that they drafted him in the first round to be a starter down the line, does that mean one or two years, does it, you know, and who knows at the same time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: but I would like to see, I would just like to hear more about him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You hear a lot about Joe Swarkins, all of us who was number seven on Keith Laws, prospects list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You hear him a lot about her nandes, you hear him a lot about Johnny Level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't hear as much about Keith Level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wanna hear more about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think he moved his way up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was an ESPN writer who put out a new, you know, top,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess 30 prospects for the Giants and Eldridge is now number three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Joshua is number one and then Johnny level is number two and I think killing moved his way up as well but still you know and you know these are guys and the lower miners for the Giants are just phenomenal but again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of like rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic until these guys get here, so that's kind of difficult to watch sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know fans are frustrated, but it's like

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[SPEAKER_01]: As team's gonna be really good in a couple of years, but hopefully, yeah, hopefully, and then you'll have a lot of really, really expensive vets on that team as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I feel like I feel like the 1986 Giants are just around the corner here or so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I also wonder?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you keep saying Schmidt to second, and Schmidt is good enough defensively to he can probably handle the position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he would be great at the position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I hear some stuff about moving a dumbest off of shorts up as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you do, where do you play him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you move him to second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's kind of like, you know, he's an athletic dude, but he's not the most graceful even right now at short stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, yeah, if you move him off a short stop,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's, there's no, but because again, who would play short stop, Casey Schmidt, we've seen that before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I mean, it's just because of these, these young bucks coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, when you're talking about that, he's going to have to be, you know, DA to some point or maybe, you know, at that point, Chapman signs through 23, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a real, we got a real age problem in a different way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, here's what buster here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what buster didn't didn't do for you and me When when you talk about signing five-year deals, we look at that as like okay, how old are we going to be?

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the time these contracts and and do how much time do we have to see these young players come up and get excited Or it just feels like come on, man like we we want it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to win now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to continually wait and wait and wait

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, speaking to that, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do have, where is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's on baseball reference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a great team, future payrolls page on everybody's team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you can click on like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 2031.

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[SPEAKER_01]: William Domus is going to be making 31 million in 231 and Devours is going to be making 31 million in 231.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the beginning of the baseball season of the first year that I am retired from work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of how I look at these things now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look at that and I go, okay, where are you know, how far these guys signed out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chapman's going to be a free agent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Arbitration years for Grant McCray,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The final arbitration years, too, for these guys, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tidwell, Trevor McDonald, Bryce Aldridge, will be in this final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: arbitration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a future look right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, and then the last thing and then we'll get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Pagaro went on the 60 day injured list with the hammy They sent down Haystus Rodriguez who was not getting any sort of playing time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's so ever?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know that Bailey trade yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, after that Bailey trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like you got Haas you got Rodriguez you got sousac

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[SPEAKER_00]: and rush regas was kind of the one who is left out and when he came up is like oh yeah he can play right feel he can play second base he did not play any of that they were just like nope he's the third catcher and we don't need him anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because they have Barracoto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got, you know, they've got Haas and Susac.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, he just completely squeezed out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yesterday morning, I just went on a rant with you guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, if you're not going to play this guy, it's best to send him down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let him keep developing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let him catch every day in Triple A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't really matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going for Windsor losses there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You did some learning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, let them catch the staff too, especially like whizz and hunt in those guys because then when you come up eventually and you can and you're catching and the bigs are catching those guys and those guys are used to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm glad they did that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a move that needed to be made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: A little worried about next week's show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not looking at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a tough week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's starting out great tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a tough week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're in Milwaukee, Chicago, and then are we back home next week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I believe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I believe so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not next weekend, but on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we are Milwaukee, Chicago, and on a Monday when we do our next show, we'll be at home for the Nats and the Cubbies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Cubbies are go the go go Nats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's scoring all kinds of runs there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we went to we went to Washington.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had a tough time, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That that crazy extra inning game where we got out of there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two of your five best offensive players in fantasy baseball right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: James Wood in CJ Abrams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not, man, and we were trying to make that move for CJ Abrams before we sign Luis Arise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would have been a great one, but again, who did you have to give up to get him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you have given up an alterage?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would not, but you know, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be back next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully not in too bad of a mood or too frustrated at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just going to be like, we're not mad at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we just we just don't care anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're we're we're we're always going to care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think sometime or at some point we're going to be I think we're going to get to okay, we're not mad anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because we're looking at the, we're, we're watching Wizzon Hunt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're watching Elder Age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're watching you know, we're, we're watching the young guys to see what they can do and contribute next season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, at some point,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a good combination of youth and veterans where this team's going to go on a little bit of a run and they're going to have like a stretch where they go, you know, play 20 games and they're, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 15 and 5 and it's just gonna like everything's gonna gel for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They might backslide a little bit because again you got you Then everything else, but I think I think we're gonna hit a spot at some point this season where this team's gonna have a nice little run of luck and and and place really good baseball Yeah All right We'll see everybody next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for Brad, I'm WG see you when we see you peace out peace