Mike Krukow's Retirement, a Series Loss to the Rangers & the Giants' Loaded Farm System | Thompson 2 Clark

WEBVTT

00:10.118 --> 00:14.421
[SPEAKER_01]: It's time for Thompson to Clark our second episode this week earlier in the week.

00:14.501 --> 00:16.203
[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about the trade deadline.

00:16.223 --> 00:23.168
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk a little bit more about the prospects today as well, but I think the big news.

00:23.648 --> 00:36.038
[SPEAKER_01]: And this is one of the bigger pieces of news of the year for the giants is that today Mike Kruko announced that this is going to be his last season as a giants broadcaster.

00:37.500 --> 00:40.304
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's been such a part of our fandom.

00:40.504 --> 00:45.151
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even remember what it's like for him to not be on that broadcast.

00:46.773 --> 00:47.775
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not even that.

00:47.875 --> 00:50.639
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just more in the organization.

00:52.100 --> 00:53.840
[SPEAKER_00]: What year was he traded to the giants?

00:53.861 --> 00:59.342
[SPEAKER_00]: Was that 84, what does that 83, 83, 84, I was 10?

00:59.362 --> 01:03.623
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that, you know, ever since I can remember, he's been in an organization.

01:03.723 --> 01:09.445
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, this is other than Mike Murphy, I think this is kind of the longest time.

01:10.585 --> 01:14.708
[SPEAKER_00]: Retiree that we're going to have in our lifetimes so far to this point.

01:15.228 --> 01:34.659
[SPEAKER_00]: Dwayne Khyper will obviously be the next whenever he decides, but yeah, it's I love Kruko as a broadcaster, but like I said today my favorite microco is 20 game winner microco because that was such a crazy memory when we were kids.

01:36.153 --> 01:38.433
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 1986, he comes out there.

01:38.513 --> 01:40.074
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it knows, 1987.

01:40.134 --> 01:40.394
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:40.494 --> 01:40.834
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:40.874 --> 01:41.094
[SPEAKER_01]: 1987.

01:41.154 --> 01:41.974
[SPEAKER_01]: No, it is 86.

01:41.994 --> 01:42.474
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right, first.

01:42.514 --> 01:43.454
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was 86, that's right.

01:43.474 --> 01:44.555
[SPEAKER_00]: Because it was kind of the cusp.

01:44.615 --> 01:46.275
[SPEAKER_00]: It was after the 100 loss season.

01:47.115 --> 01:52.336
[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes out there and wins 120 games.

01:53.296 --> 01:58.437
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the next year, we have this team that's battling for the nationally West all season long.

01:58.457 --> 02:02.058
[SPEAKER_00]: So that was kind of our first taste of it, you know, when we were kids, it was our first taste of.

02:02.918 --> 02:05.619
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, so this is what like elite looks like.

02:05.859 --> 02:10.080
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, this is what a good season for a player looks like.

02:10.320 --> 02:11.940
[SPEAKER_00]: That's something to kind of cherish.

02:12.020 --> 02:14.441
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's my favorite memory of my crew.

02:14.461 --> 02:22.022
[SPEAKER_00]: Go, and of course, you know, all the broadcast, the quips and everything else, who's going to say squat, going to squat.

02:22.042 --> 02:22.702
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

02:22.742 --> 02:25.023
[SPEAKER_00]: So if I was to...

02:27.357 --> 02:43.521
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think 86 is right, it is right on the money as far as what that means to fans and probably what that means to him, I don't know that I've heard him say what his favorite moment as a player was that's got to be it.

02:43.601 --> 02:51.903
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing if I'm remembering correctly, I think he got win 20 on like the last game of the season.

02:52.783 --> 03:00.209
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I think Candy Maldonado had a home run to give him the lead, and he got his 20th win with that.

03:00.249 --> 03:04.452
[SPEAKER_00]: So I believe he bought Candy Maldonado sometime.

03:04.472 --> 03:16.821
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was like a gold watch or a car or something crazy like it's time, but, you know, to have a guy hit a home run and get you your 20th win, that's just absolutely amazing.

03:16.841 --> 03:18.903
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to look at that because I want to go back

03:20.014 --> 03:21.376
[SPEAKER_01]: Was it against the Dodgers?

03:21.416 --> 03:22.519
[SPEAKER_01]: Who did they play in that game?

03:22.539 --> 03:23.020
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was.

03:23.120 --> 03:24.342
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it was against the Dodgers.

03:24.583 --> 03:27.869
[SPEAKER_00]: And then that's probably made it like that much sweeter.

03:27.890 --> 03:28.771
[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine too.

03:30.110 --> 03:33.011
[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that I want to bring up.

03:33.132 --> 03:36.073
[SPEAKER_01]: So again, 86, that's the right answer.

03:36.853 --> 03:42.536
[SPEAKER_01]: The one that sticks with me is the 87 divisional playoffs that you mentioned.

03:43.357 --> 03:51.821
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm gonna refresh the memories of Giants fans and to folks who may not be as old as us, maybe they didn't even know what this is.

03:52.742 --> 03:54.683
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they've only heard stories, but okay.

03:55.343 --> 03:59.324
[SPEAKER_01]: So like you said, the giants hadn't made the playoffs.

03:59.464 --> 04:02.485
[SPEAKER_01]: I think sense like the late 70s.

04:03.665 --> 04:15.908
[SPEAKER_01]: So here we are, 1987, they win their division and they play the cardinals for the, I'm sorry, it's not the divisional series.

04:15.968 --> 04:16.928
[SPEAKER_01]: It's the NLCS.

04:17.688 --> 04:19.129
[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, they play the cardinals in the NLCS.

04:20.933 --> 04:25.082
[SPEAKER_01]: and they go down five to three in game one.

04:27.121 --> 04:33.586
[SPEAKER_01]: Then in game two, and I remember this game very clearly because I faked being six, so that I could watch.

04:33.606 --> 04:34.787
[SPEAKER_01]: It was a big game.

04:37.169 --> 04:39.651
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in state Louis, right, in state Louis.

04:39.671 --> 04:41.152
[SPEAKER_01]: This was like a morning game, I think.

04:41.873 --> 04:46.557
[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I remember sitting in class with my transnis radio and I had an earpiece.

04:47.558 --> 04:50.200
[SPEAKER_01]: So Dave Jervekky throws a two-hitter.

04:50.400 --> 04:51.561
[SPEAKER_01]: Giants win 50.

04:51.641 --> 04:54.083
[SPEAKER_01]: Will, will in the Hackman Leonard, go deep.

04:57.287 --> 04:59.929
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I think this is the first game in San Francisco.

04:59.969 --> 05:02.751
[SPEAKER_01]: The Cardinals win six to five.

05:02.831 --> 05:08.314
[SPEAKER_01]: They, Giants were up four zero in the Cardinals score six runs in the six in the seventh inning.

05:09.235 --> 05:13.157
[SPEAKER_01]: The Giants score one in the ninth, but they still lose this game, six five.

05:13.257 --> 05:15.159
[SPEAKER_01]: So, game four.

05:17.500 --> 05:24.085
[SPEAKER_01]: And Cruko, who we just talked about, had this 20 game season, 20 game winning season

05:26.929 --> 05:52.005
[SPEAKER_01]: So he is I'm looking at his record here for the next year five and six the following season four point eight zero ERA so in 86 he was twenty and nine with a three point zero five ERA and he threw two hundred and forty five innings that year

05:54.707 --> 05:56.668
[SPEAKER_01]: So 7 is like the opposite.

05:56.788 --> 06:00.269
[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's kind of leaning towards the end for him.

06:01.089 --> 06:04.010
[SPEAKER_01]: And he goes 5 and 6 4.80 ERA.

06:04.611 --> 06:08.472
[SPEAKER_01]: He's given up 20 almost 20 more hits than an inch pitched.

06:08.832 --> 06:20.556
[SPEAKER_01]: He's not only striking out guys anymore, and it's kind of like, oh man, like what our guy is on the other end of it now, just after having such a great season.

06:21.296 --> 06:22.277
[SPEAKER_01]: So he's got to start game 4.

06:23.713 --> 06:32.980
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the Giants are about to go down 3-1 unless Cruco brings back the Cruco of Old, which he does, they went 4-2.

06:33.500 --> 06:35.161
[SPEAKER_01]: So now the series is tied at 2.

06:36.402 --> 06:43.187
[SPEAKER_01]: Giants go on and take Game 5 to go up 3-2 and they are headed back to St. Louis.

06:44.248 --> 06:49.132
[SPEAKER_01]: So Game 6 is the repeat of Game 2, the game that I stayed home from school for.

06:50.568 --> 06:57.612
[SPEAKER_01]: And John Tudor and Dave Javecky battle again, and the Cardinals win one zero.

06:58.813 --> 07:01.134
[SPEAKER_01]: So we go into game seven.

07:02.635 --> 07:04.356
[SPEAKER_01]: And here is the story of game seven.

07:06.117 --> 07:10.459
[SPEAKER_01]: It is, should might circle pitch game seven.

07:11.760 --> 07:16.423
[SPEAKER_01]: Because if he doesn't pitch game seven, our starter is at Leamacher.

07:19.223 --> 07:30.177
[SPEAKER_01]: And there are a lot of us begging for Mike Kruko to come back and pitch game seven, not because he had a great season.

07:31.407 --> 07:37.489
[SPEAKER_01]: But because we believed that he could get it back, right?

07:37.529 --> 07:43.850
[SPEAKER_01]: That he could find it again for one last game because he even grew giant.

07:44.651 --> 07:51.092
[SPEAKER_00]: I think even if he gave us six handings because he gave us nine before in the other game.

07:51.112 --> 07:56.534
[SPEAKER_00]: So if he gives us six handings of good pitching and I think we're okay.

07:57.574 --> 07:59.475
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it doesn't happen.

08:00.367 --> 08:05.449
[SPEAKER_01]: hammer, it's gives up four runs in the second inning, and it's pretty much done.

08:06.029 --> 08:10.510
[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't it the, it was a Joseocando cranslam, I think, in the second inning.

08:10.810 --> 08:13.391
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was so sad to see.

08:13.411 --> 08:19.953
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I think, you know, we've had moments like this before with the Solomon Torres game, right?

08:20.013 --> 08:20.933
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that was a big one.

08:21.654 --> 08:22.074
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

08:22.534 --> 08:23.174
[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh,

08:25.778 --> 08:32.822
[SPEAKER_01]: You can always kind of circle back and kind of Monday morning cubi it I wonder if Roger Craig.

08:33.022 --> 08:34.963
[SPEAKER_01]: I you know, I don't remember it was so long.

08:34.983 --> 08:38.645
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how I'm sure he was second guest You know, it's on camby.

08:38.685 --> 08:47.770
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if there was any ever ever any information about that But yeah, man, you know Mike Mike actually had a really solid

08:48.811 --> 08:50.634
[SPEAKER_01]: bounce back for 1998.

08:51.094 --> 08:52.797
[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't pitch a ton.

08:53.017 --> 09:04.774
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm guessing there were some injuries there, but he was 7 and 4 with a 354 ERA in 88 and then he's even on the 89 team that goes on to win the division again.

09:05.855 --> 09:31.410
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... but again he only through forty three eighting so i'm guessing i don't remember off top of my head i'm guessing injuries are part of that so even you know after people thought he was done he did bounce back and have some solid seasons like half seasons or whatever but um... it is uh... like when it comes to players now we've talked about i mean our podcast is called Thompson to Clark

09:33.737 --> 09:43.844
[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to people who identify with, uh, in the giants, because of their announcing squad, like a lot of people identify the giants, through their announcers.

09:43.884 --> 09:53.530
[SPEAKER_01]: My crook-o-dwaying chieper John Miller Day Fleming, you and I got to hang out with Miller and Fleming, while they were doing play by play for a few innings, thanks to everybody Darren Chan.

09:53.590 --> 09:57.913
[SPEAKER_01]: Like that was like, you know, I think we even talked about it at the time.

09:59.130 --> 10:04.153
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you meet a player, it's kind of, oh, yeah, you know, this person's famous, that's cool.

10:04.493 --> 10:07.755
[SPEAKER_01]: And you get to say hi to them and you get to shake their hand and you move on.

10:09.136 --> 10:13.078
[SPEAKER_01]: You don't get to chat with them, like we did with the announcers, right?

10:13.779 --> 10:14.479
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

10:14.819 --> 10:21.963
[SPEAKER_01]: We got to talk, you know, you were able to talk about doing play by play for sales a state and sales a giants and day Fleming.

10:24.625 --> 10:27.827
[SPEAKER_01]: He's a, he's, he's closer to my age, even younger than me, right?

10:28.927 --> 10:29.368
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe so.

10:29.388 --> 10:32.951
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he just turned 50 this year last year.

10:33.051 --> 10:39.999
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so he would have been at Stanford a couple of years prior to you kind of doing the same thing that you were doing.

10:40.585 --> 10:41.786
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I believe so.

10:41.846 --> 10:49.873
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because he was he was doing play by play for Modesto when I was with the San Jose Giants are ran into him a couple times.

10:49.933 --> 11:04.807
[SPEAKER_00]: I think we talked for maybe a minute, but you know at that time you don't know this guy's going to go on to be a Giants broadcaster or anything else because our partner at the time to Robert Portnoi was also going for it got his way into triple and yeah, you hear.

11:05.467 --> 11:05.867
[SPEAKER_00]: as well.

11:05.927 --> 11:06.908
[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, you just don't know.

11:06.928 --> 11:08.469
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're running in these guys.

11:08.509 --> 11:09.629
[SPEAKER_00]: You talk to them briefly.

11:10.350 --> 11:14.872
[SPEAKER_00]: You move on, but then when you get to see them actually sitting at Oracle Park.

11:15.472 --> 11:22.416
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and I mean, these are the guys that listen to when I'm out doing the lawns, you know, when I'm out doing your artwork on this Saturday afternoon.

11:22.436 --> 11:23.997
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm listening to these guys.

11:24.037 --> 11:25.838
[SPEAKER_00]: These guys, you know, and especially

11:28.499 --> 11:36.343
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the soundtrack to our summers for God who knows how long and and and evenings, you know, laying in bed.

11:36.363 --> 11:43.627
[SPEAKER_00]: I've got the transistor underneath underneath my bed when I'm a kid listening to games and everything else.

11:43.647 --> 11:45.468
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's yeah, it's okay.

11:45.708 --> 11:49.630
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's a bummer man, but you knew it was going to happen at some points guys to get an older.

11:49.950 --> 11:51.011
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a great point.

11:51.051 --> 11:52.331
[SPEAKER_01]: We kind of knew this is coming.

11:52.351 --> 11:55.973
[SPEAKER_01]: We just didn't want to even think about, you know, when it was going to come.

11:56.493 --> 11:57.234
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

11:58.386 --> 12:07.488
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a couple of comments in here from someone who's who's checking in with us and I'm I will come to these comments because I think these comments are are really interesting.

12:09.008 --> 12:25.411
[SPEAKER_01]: But one thing I was thinking about because you just mentioned something about being on the transistor radio and, you know, in in class and then listening while you're doing your chores and stuff which is why baseball because baseball is like every day for like eight months or whatever yeah and.

12:26.506 --> 12:45.995
[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about this because can be a place that I worked when I was in my young 20s and also a place that I can remember listening to Dave Newhouse doing sports when 680.

12:46.075 --> 12:52.598
[SPEAKER_01]: And as I'm going to bed after giant games and Ralph Barbie area replaced him and kind of

12:57.210 --> 13:03.232
[SPEAKER_01]: nine years old I've been listening to can be are and I haven't in the like podcast has ever have replaced radio for me.

13:04.732 --> 13:10.394
[SPEAKER_01]: But they just recently fired Greg Papa who has cancer.

13:11.114 --> 13:19.276
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I understand the radio industry is probably, you know, it's kind of like um cable television in a sense, right?

13:19.316 --> 13:20.477
[SPEAKER_01]: It's on its way out.

13:20.717 --> 13:22.697
[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not sure what replaces radio

13:26.108 --> 13:27.990
[SPEAKER_01]: going over the airwaves in some way.

13:28.010 --> 13:34.377
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess you could theoretically take the television feed and just broadcast that.

13:34.897 --> 13:36.079
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't want to see that happen.

13:36.119 --> 13:41.685
[SPEAKER_01]: I like, I think the radio broadcasts are actually, even more interesting because they have to describe more.

13:41.705 --> 13:43.206
[SPEAKER_01]: But what is,

13:44.808 --> 13:53.215
[SPEAKER_00]: radio or that kind of thing, even look like in 10 years, it's moving towards streaming.

13:53.255 --> 14:04.104
[SPEAKER_00]: I think the problem with streaming right now and especially streaming audio is I have to explain to my mother, 80 years old, how to use the Serious XM app.

14:04.204 --> 14:06.967
[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't know because she had Serious XM in the car.

14:07.007 --> 14:07.627
[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't know.

14:07.687 --> 14:09.709
[SPEAKER_00]: She also had the ability to listen to

14:14.273 --> 14:20.958
[SPEAKER_00]: Because in Reno, we do have a dedicated broadcast station for the San Francisco Giants games.

14:21.419 --> 14:22.460
[SPEAKER_00]: But they don't play all the games.

14:22.680 --> 14:27.244
[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think I've ever listened to that terrestrial radio to listen to Giants game.

14:27.284 --> 14:29.506
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm always listening to the app if I'm driving home.

14:30.747 --> 14:31.988
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I don't know.

14:32.008 --> 14:35.711
[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it's got to be streaming.

14:36.932 --> 14:40.195
[SPEAKER_00]: You can always, you can always employ four broadcasters.

14:40.215 --> 14:41.897
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's ever going to be a problem.

14:43.459 --> 14:55.732
[SPEAKER_00]: I, again, I prefer listening on the radio when the giants are on Apple TV, and they offer you the home, or the, you know, the giant's feed, audio of,

14:58.394 --> 15:01.777
[SPEAKER_00]: the radio broadcast you get Miller and Fleming and it's fantastic.

15:01.817 --> 15:03.879
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems to put with TV just perfect.

15:04.660 --> 15:09.204
[SPEAKER_00]: I prefer radio feeds, but yeah, I'm not sure how they would do that.

15:09.664 --> 15:17.071
[SPEAKER_00]: Other than if they did, like you said, if they did just take the audio from a TV feed, you can cut down on broadcasters.

15:17.391 --> 15:21.735
[SPEAKER_00]: They would just have to get more descriptive because like you said, I mean, there's a huge difference.

15:21.775 --> 15:23.197
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're watching a game on TV,

15:24.638 --> 15:34.044
[SPEAKER_00]: I can still not watch it and walk around the house and just hear it and know exactly that it's going on just because of our experience with baseball and then baseball broadcasting.

15:34.064 --> 15:38.947
[SPEAKER_00]: So I know what's happening, but they would have to get more descriptive.

15:39.088 --> 15:48.394
[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you're just listening to it on the radio while you're driving, there's not enough information on a television broadcast to tell you exactly what's going on.

15:48.434 --> 15:52.917
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's possible, I think broadcasters would have to change that that's kind of the main thing.

15:53.871 --> 15:54.251
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's it.

15:54.291 --> 15:54.912
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's a thought.

15:55.252 --> 16:05.639
[SPEAKER_01]: The way that I if I'm not if I don't have the Giants game on television and sometimes even when I do have it on television, I also have the sports app going on my phone.

16:06.339 --> 16:09.942
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just giving me updates without any commentary.

16:09.962 --> 16:16.046
[SPEAKER_01]: So sometimes I will text our Giants group chat and I'll say, okay.

16:17.045 --> 16:22.547
[SPEAKER_01]: it looks like, you know, all of a sudden, you know, somebody made a doughman or like, what actually happened?

16:22.587 --> 16:30.791
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you guys will say, oh, yeah, you know, who's Ramos and left field, like, tripped over his foot and went to the foot, whatever it would have heard it.

16:30.831 --> 16:33.072
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm picking on Ramos only because it's not in the team anymore.

16:33.432 --> 16:34.292
[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't want to talk.

16:34.372 --> 16:37.194
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to mention a point for a team for Ramos.

16:37.214 --> 16:37.394
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

16:37.914 --> 16:39.875
[SPEAKER_01]: So, I wonder,

16:42.088 --> 16:51.899
[SPEAKER_01]: And I would not advise this because I don't want to see anybody at work, but I wonder if it's just that sports app with some sort of translation.

16:53.232 --> 16:57.875
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't want to use the term AI necessarily, but that's kind of where my brain is going.

16:58.595 --> 17:05.679
[SPEAKER_01]: Where it just gives you like a literal play by play of what's going on that you can turn on and turn off.

17:05.879 --> 17:11.263
[SPEAKER_01]: That would be a way to keep up with it, but I think what we would miss is kind of what you were saying, which is,

17:12.323 --> 17:27.113
[SPEAKER_01]: you don't want to look at something you're doing something and you're listening at the same time so you're getting that information while you're multitasking while you're doing chores and that's what is fantastic about baseball as in everyday sport.

17:27.794 --> 17:33.177
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm just like man, you know, these radio stations seem like they've got to just be losing money like crazy.

17:33.217 --> 17:37.120
[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's that there was a story that the giants are really frustrated with the K&BR.

17:37.620 --> 17:38.581
[SPEAKER_01]: Some of that is their own

17:40.182 --> 17:56.598
[SPEAKER_01]: Busher posies not not the best at this PR stuff and they call it on it and he gets mad and he doesn't want to come on the air and he's supposed to come on the air as as the front man, but Whatever, you know, all of these things I just kind of it just made me wonder like man, what is radio look like in 10 years, but

17:57.347 --> 17:58.947
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, it's going to be tough.

17:58.987 --> 18:02.548
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want any kind of lifeless AI describe an game to me.

18:02.948 --> 18:11.190
[SPEAKER_00]: I the reason I listen to it on the radio, and I'll even listen to like the reds against the white socks sometimes on the radio.

18:11.250 --> 18:16.091
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just throw on a radio feed if that's a game that's going on because I want to hear stories about baseball.

18:16.391 --> 18:21.092
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to hear the history about white socks players, history about red socks players, the

18:21.412 --> 18:22.533
[SPEAKER_00]: the game in general.

18:23.253 --> 18:26.835
[SPEAKER_00]: And most of the time with radio feeds, you are going to get that.

18:26.875 --> 18:27.835
[SPEAKER_00]: What television feeds?

18:28.295 --> 18:28.776
[SPEAKER_00]: Not so much.

18:29.216 --> 18:33.818
[SPEAKER_00]: Television feeds have now kind of turned into, hey, look at this guy in the crowd.

18:34.458 --> 18:35.679
[SPEAKER_00]: What's this guy doing?

18:35.979 --> 18:37.980
[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, look at this other person in the crowd.

18:38.120 --> 18:39.641
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, oh, there's fly ball left.

18:39.781 --> 18:44.643
[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's go back to talk about, um, you know, something else about the stadium or whatever.

18:45.304 --> 18:53.453
[SPEAKER_00]: But when you're listening to it on the radio, you are going to get a lot more storytelling, a lot more history of the game, and that's what I really enjoy.

18:53.653 --> 18:54.815
[SPEAKER_00]: But again, is that a diamond breed?

18:55.275 --> 18:55.636
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

18:55.936 --> 18:57.278
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, am I a diamond breed?

18:57.338 --> 19:04.647
[SPEAKER_00]: Like it does a younger generation care about the history of baseball as much as we did growing up because we didn't have the internet.

19:05.147 --> 19:05.387
[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

19:05.487 --> 19:18.678
[SPEAKER_00]: We had, I mean, I've got to, I've got a stack still of the baseball and cycling PDF books behind me that, you know, ended in 1994, 1995, that have the history of the game and baseball cards to look at the back of them.

19:18.698 --> 19:20.700
[SPEAKER_00]: That's how we kind of caught up on everything.

19:21.601 --> 19:22.641
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it is, you don't need that.

19:23.402 --> 19:30.508
[SPEAKER_00]: You can just get a score and then you can, if you want to know the history of baseball or the history of X player, you can just go to the

19:32.508 --> 19:34.469
[SPEAKER_01]: our our guide Davis is in the chat too.

19:34.529 --> 19:35.630
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get to his comment too.

19:35.870 --> 19:38.572
[SPEAKER_01]: So stufendry and Davis hang with us.

19:38.912 --> 19:40.514
[SPEAKER_01]: I do want to reference what you guys are saying.

19:41.554 --> 19:43.576
[SPEAKER_01]: I'll show you how old school I am.

19:46.288 --> 19:50.490
[SPEAKER_01]: Depending on if the game was televised or not, this was what I would do on a game day.

19:51.490 --> 19:53.011
[SPEAKER_01]: I had this board game.

19:53.271 --> 19:54.852
[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually a card board game.

19:55.832 --> 20:01.175
[SPEAKER_01]: Stratomatic baseball, you had dice that you would roll and it would, they still make that game, by the way.

20:01.395 --> 20:02.115
[SPEAKER_01]: It was still making it.

20:02.315 --> 20:03.296
[SPEAKER_01]: It would create outcomes.

20:03.936 --> 20:10.059
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I had a game called Status Pro and it was like flipping cards to get to the same thing.

20:10.079 --> 20:12.380
[SPEAKER_01]: You're just creating outcomes and I would play

20:13.575 --> 20:25.965
[SPEAKER_01]: I got to like a hundred games of a giant season one time, just by playing this game while the real team was on television or on the radio, and I would just keep playing this game.

20:27.206 --> 20:27.727
[SPEAKER_01]: And um...

20:29.215 --> 20:32.198
[SPEAKER_01]: The game, I think the cards were from like 86.

20:33.199 --> 20:41.005
[SPEAKER_01]: So basically by the time it was like 87.88, like the cards were a little outdated and like all of a sudden in 89, like Kevin Mitchell's a monster, right?

20:41.025 --> 20:46.951
[SPEAKER_01]: He's in like 40, some odd jacks and is 86 card is like, yeah, he's hit like 15 Homer.

20:46.991 --> 20:50.954
[SPEAKER_01]: So I would manually adjust like the thing, even though

20:51.995 --> 20:55.500
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I was doing it correctly, but it's like obviously stats have to like reflect.

20:55.520 --> 20:57.082
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course with the guys are today.

20:57.542 --> 20:58.824
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I would do.

20:59.765 --> 21:09.197
[SPEAKER_01]: And the play by play, because if it was on TV, I was watching, but I was also listening to to know where to pick my eyes up because doing this thing.

21:10.333 --> 21:22.459
[SPEAKER_01]: But the play by play was kind of the lyrics to the thing that I was doing while I was, you know, while I had the game on.

21:22.499 --> 21:25.800
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's like just a big part of my childhood.

21:25.900 --> 21:30.482
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't imagine, you know, I don't imagine people would would do it the same way.

21:30.502 --> 21:33.644
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll grab Davis's quote here in a second because Davis is a younger dude.

21:34.544 --> 21:35.925
[SPEAKER_01]: But like I think of today,

21:39.708 --> 21:41.870
[SPEAKER_01]: Everything we have today has a screen.

21:42.350 --> 21:43.831
[SPEAKER_01]: Every giant's game is on television.

21:44.211 --> 21:47.994
[SPEAKER_01]: So I wouldn't even think to turn on the radio.

21:48.434 --> 21:53.297
[SPEAKER_01]: What I would do is a vows of my office, and I was like playing the show or something.

21:54.178 --> 21:59.682
[SPEAKER_01]: I would just put the game on one of the screens and just having going on in the background while I was doing something else.

21:59.762 --> 22:00.983
[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't even think of going,

22:01.743 --> 22:10.249
[SPEAKER_01]: radio, uh, but if I was in my car, then yeah, you do have the serious broadcast, or you could just tune in to came be are, and you can listen to it that way.

22:10.310 --> 22:12.331
[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, all right, we're going to get to these quotes.

22:12.751 --> 22:14.012
[SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll move on.

22:14.052 --> 22:17.055
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be talking about Kruko for the rest of the year.

22:17.155 --> 22:21.298
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to have his, uh, the last game of the season.

22:21.398 --> 22:23.039
[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be celebrated.

22:23.099 --> 22:24.860
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be a fantastic moment.

22:24.940 --> 22:26.281
[SPEAKER_01]: I almost want to go to the

22:29.864 --> 22:32.465
[SPEAKER_00]: Greg, Jeff, Mr. Posey, any of my money this year.

22:33.366 --> 22:33.846
[SPEAKER_00]: I get you.

22:34.166 --> 22:34.446
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

22:34.466 --> 22:37.908
[SPEAKER_01]: So from Stiffendre, what's up y'all sad day?

22:38.008 --> 22:38.629
[SPEAKER_01]: Not going to lie.

22:38.709 --> 22:45.192
[SPEAKER_01]: Teared up reading the news, Krugen Carperwive, tuned in for every game for 25 plus years, ups and downs.

22:45.212 --> 22:49.094
[SPEAKER_01]: We always had a fund three and a half hours with those two.

22:49.574 --> 22:50.075
[SPEAKER_01]: Concure?

22:51.252 --> 22:59.877
[SPEAKER_01]: In a season like this, what is the reason to watch out of, you know, kind of your normal just every day rhythm if you watch every game.

23:00.698 --> 23:09.864
[SPEAKER_01]: Like whenever like there are games where the day games and I know that Brad and I have had some shows this year where we just kind of go after a day game.

23:10.959 --> 23:14.323
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll put the day game on, well, kind of as I'm working in the background.

23:14.383 --> 23:17.987
[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I'm not really watching, but I'm just listening.

23:18.808 --> 23:25.655
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the crew, crew will say something that would just crack me up and I'll have to look up at what he's actually talking about.

23:26.576 --> 23:31.341
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just kind of, you know, the thing, like he says something,

23:32.282 --> 23:57.433
[SPEAKER_01]: and it's either a very smart baseball thing or it's a funny thing because he's got to have great sense of humor and hyper and him, hyper has great sense of humor too, hyper says a little bit more dry, but just the way that they work together, it's almost like in a hundred years ago, those guys wouldn't be broadcasting baseball, they'd be doing like Abbott and Costello stuff, they'd be like the Modville act, that's how good those guys are.

23:58.550 --> 24:17.737
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so it's defender also wanted to mention and and I get where he's coming from here, I think it's defender is is a male, I try to watch away feeds, but going from crew can type to Pence and Fleming is like going from S tier to C tier and answering and it's just disgrace to giant space will no offense, Pence.

24:18.977 --> 24:28.326
[SPEAKER_01]: Fleming is really good, by the way, like he's different, but he's excellent, and I get pents, you know, same with Harvey.

24:29.319 --> 24:33.922
[SPEAKER_01]: though like those guys are not, you know, they're compared to the very best.

24:34.482 --> 24:38.044
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Pence is getting his sea legs for sure.

24:38.685 --> 24:40.706
[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing lots of stuff.

24:40.746 --> 24:49.471
[SPEAKER_01]: He was on the, um, the home run derby, Netflix telecast and, you know, he could have a little bit more fun, be a little bit more of a bro on stuff like that.

24:50.291 --> 24:52.373
[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's getting pretty good.

24:53.775 --> 24:55.976
[SPEAKER_01]: but he's not super buttoned down.

24:55.996 --> 25:00.958
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's probably to his strength because he does have a fun personality.

25:02.098 --> 25:05.760
[SPEAKER_01]: So I could see him turning into something pretty darn good.

25:05.880 --> 25:10.021
[SPEAKER_01]: I think, again, measured against a crinkle in a diaper, like yeah, of course.

25:10.602 --> 25:12.963
[SPEAKER_01]: But I think we do have to give pants a chance.

25:13.523 --> 25:14.283
[SPEAKER_01]: I love Fleming.

25:14.343 --> 25:15.824
[SPEAKER_01]: I think Fleming is excellent.

25:16.844 --> 25:18.185
[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing I like about Fleming,

25:19.327 --> 25:22.949
[SPEAKER_01]: He is not afraid to call out BS when he sees BS.

25:23.450 --> 25:26.852
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if especially when it comes to own pires, like he's like,

25:27.913 --> 25:29.614
[SPEAKER_01]: This is kind of despicable like this.

25:29.674 --> 25:33.475
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just like talking to people like their children, like what's going on here.

25:33.515 --> 25:40.678
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the other day with the pushed off the bag play, where we kind of got screwed.

25:40.958 --> 25:43.559
[SPEAKER_00]: He went on for quite a while on that.

25:43.659 --> 25:51.442
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Hunter Pants actually had to reel him in, which is shocking that Hunter Pants had to reel somebody else in.

25:52.162 --> 26:08.819
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Davis says I'm usually listening to other pods when I can watch a game so the plug-by play hasn't mattered as much to me the last few years no fence to to crew can kind of Miller and I think that is just a generational thing like what I was saying is you know when you're multitasking

26:09.520 --> 26:22.106
[SPEAKER_01]: If you got a bunch of podcasts to listen to, you could physically watch the game, understand everything that's going on, and then have another thing going on in your ear to do more than one thing at the same time.

26:22.166 --> 26:29.190
[SPEAKER_01]: So I totally get that, I think, again, that's why I'm like kind of wondering, like, what

26:35.802 --> 26:37.543
[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe this is a YouTube thing.

26:38.384 --> 26:44.388
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe YouTube has to allow us to do this, which is Brad and I take the Giants feed.

26:45.188 --> 26:50.892
[SPEAKER_01]: And we sit here for nine innings, and we talk about the team, and we talk about the game, and we do our own broadcast, right?

26:50.912 --> 27:02.060
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it wouldn't be even though Brad actually legitimately did play by play for San Jose and the San Jose Giants, and you did other sports too.

27:03.159 --> 27:13.761
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, maybe the idea of what it is is like having a conversation with people that you like hearing talk, while the game is going on in the background.

27:13.881 --> 27:16.522
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of like having a podcast while the game is going on.

27:17.462 --> 27:23.803
[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably far away, but I could see that being something that is kind of attractive first.

27:23.903 --> 27:29.125
[SPEAKER_01]: For some folks who just don't, they don't want to listen to like, the San Francisco Giants radio network.

27:29.245 --> 27:30.285
[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not,

27:30.925 --> 27:35.748
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I want Darren, I want our buddy Darren Chan to, you know, work for the rest of his life.

27:35.768 --> 27:36.729
[SPEAKER_01]: Continue to have a job.

27:36.749 --> 27:38.390
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't, so I don't want to suggest anything.

27:38.430 --> 27:42.772
[SPEAKER_01]: But I could see like YouTube, like leaning into like a thing with major league.

27:42.792 --> 27:43.273
[SPEAKER_01]: So I go in like.

27:44.314 --> 28:03.525
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we have live streamers like could could our live streamers take the the video and just have conversations about the game major league baseball should hold those rights like But I can see something like that happening like even, you know, without the video if we just go, hey, giants are in the world series.

28:05.286 --> 28:07.968
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to live stream while this game is on.

28:09.188 --> 28:14.251
[SPEAKER_01]: And come hang out with us as we watch this game, like that could be a fun thing.

28:14.351 --> 28:18.254
[SPEAKER_01]: It might be hard for us, but I could see that being kind of interesting.

28:18.734 --> 28:29.721
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, kind of like the, what ESPN does with the Monday and I football and the manning brothers, but without the all the guests and everything else, but they do, they kind of digest the game breakdown different things than happened.

28:30.141 --> 28:35.925
[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's become more, you know, when they first started doing that, it was like that, but now it's definitely become more of a,

28:36.353 --> 28:41.644
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, just kind of a comedy with bringing some guests and do some different things, so yeah.

28:42.148 --> 28:57.854
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Davis says the McAfee style with the sidecasts like I could see that now I don't think that becomes the most popular way that people watch it because I think if you were to compare you mentioned the Monday football thing like the actual Monday night football broadcast with Joe Buck and Troy Eggman

29:06.657 --> 29:24.837
[SPEAKER_01]: the main way to watch it is still the main way to watch it but it is interesting how where things are going in the media and hey if YouTube was like hey you guys you guys want to try this experiment where you get the you know we give you a little bit of a feed I would I would like to do it um I would uh

29:26.144 --> 29:36.189
[SPEAKER_01]: But I would also kind of go like, hmm, who would be mad at us if we did this like, I remember back in, I think it was 96 or 97.

29:36.770 --> 29:39.271
[SPEAKER_00]: It was my first job in media.

29:39.371 --> 29:42.393
[SPEAKER_00]: I worked at the Cupertino City Channel.

29:43.133 --> 29:52.942
[SPEAKER_00]: in master control, and I ran the Cupertino City Council meetings from back in master control, just the camera changing and all that stuff.

29:53.322 --> 29:56.585
[SPEAKER_00]: We had a large satellite, and I would tune in the games.

29:56.665 --> 30:00.368
[SPEAKER_00]: There would be games all over the country starting at, you know, five p.m. just like there are now.

30:01.009 --> 30:07.434
[SPEAKER_00]: I would tune in the games with the satellite, and they would always be the feeds that had no broadcast.

30:08.315 --> 30:12.881
[SPEAKER_00]: No broadcasters and no commercials, they didn't even have graphics.

30:12.921 --> 30:22.292
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so I would it would just be a just a complete raw feed That was a lot of fun because you get all of the mics on the field.

30:22.312 --> 30:24.734
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you would just sit there and watch the game

30:26.976 --> 30:37.763
[SPEAKER_00]: And you're basically doing play by playing your head because you know what's going on and you're watching this and you're watching Ray Lank for come up and you're like, oh wow, Ray Lank for the cards is going to, you know, what's he doing to do?

30:38.184 --> 30:43.787
[SPEAKER_00]: And as everything's happening, you're soaking it in completely because nobody else is telling you what's going on.

30:43.827 --> 30:46.089
[SPEAKER_00]: So your eyes have to tell you're praying.

30:46.109 --> 30:47.510
[SPEAKER_00]: You've got to digest this.

30:47.750 --> 30:48.911
[SPEAKER_00]: I was fantastic.

30:49.291 --> 30:52.413
[SPEAKER_00]: And I still watch baseball sometimes with no sound if I'm doing something

30:52.433 --> 30:55.956
[SPEAKER_00]: I also want to listen to music while I'm doing dishes, but I want to see the games.

30:56.076 --> 31:00.639
[SPEAKER_01]: So I've done my fair share of my own play by play with the sound down.

31:01.360 --> 31:03.982
[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, back in the day, that's how we got our star band.

31:04.002 --> 31:06.063
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

31:06.223 --> 31:07.584
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to take up too much time.

31:07.624 --> 31:11.467
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Crooko was worthy of us talking about this.

31:11.507 --> 31:16.511
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the giants, they they lost two or three to the Rangers.

31:17.072 --> 31:19.914
[SPEAKER_01]: I think my major takeaway for that series was

31:21.367 --> 31:41.713
[SPEAKER_01]: freaking Logan Web as it is a constant right that's pretty much it he's like the guy and it's unfortunate that he you know he did get the pitch in that that wildcard one gamer against the Dodgers and he did very well and that was like a big time moment for him but it's just unfortunate that he has not had

31:43.031 --> 31:52.415
[SPEAKER_01]: these games that are meaningful baseball, you know, save for, you know, until the giants fade out of the wild card.

31:53.356 --> 31:55.157
[SPEAKER_01]: And, but he's just the man.

31:55.377 --> 32:05.121
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, that's the thing I think I respect about him the most is, I don't know if he was really, I don't know if Buster would really have traded him.

32:05.141 --> 32:05.922
[SPEAKER_01]: There was that rumor

32:10.125 --> 32:10.966
[SPEAKER_01]: whatever.

32:11.586 --> 32:12.367
[SPEAKER_01]: I can't imagine.

32:12.387 --> 32:20.394
[SPEAKER_01]: Like can you imagine going to next season with God who would have been their top starter with on the current staff.

32:21.115 --> 32:24.838
[SPEAKER_01]: But like how's her and and and whizzing hunt

32:32.103 --> 32:47.952
[SPEAKER_01]: But man, like whatever Logan Web makes he deserves more and it's just frustrating that we can't give him better this this organization can give him better and you know Ted well through pretty decently in game two and

32:49.373 --> 33:14.750
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you watch these games and you kind of look at it, I'm not saying that Brad and I look at it like in through any different lens and anybody else, but, you know, because of how long I've played sometimes I look at it a little bit differently than some and you know, watching the first sitting in this game and I think it was seeger hits a rocket right at diverse who's playing first base.

33:15.271 --> 33:18.053
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a runner on first and there's one out.

33:19.334 --> 33:20.955
[SPEAKER_01]: hit this thing like a hundred miles an hour.

33:21.015 --> 33:23.537
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not saying that this was an easy play to make.

33:24.958 --> 33:26.739
[SPEAKER_01]: Devours didn't have to move at all.

33:27.139 --> 33:28.260
[SPEAKER_01]: It was right at him.

33:28.781 --> 33:30.462
[SPEAKER_01]: He just had to kind of flick his glove up.

33:31.712 --> 33:33.694
[SPEAKER_01]: drops the ball or doesn't catch it.

33:34.654 --> 33:35.916
[SPEAKER_01]: Ball screws away.

33:36.376 --> 33:37.977
[SPEAKER_01]: They get runners on first and second.

33:38.037 --> 33:40.079
[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think they score two runs that inning.

33:41.160 --> 33:42.821
[SPEAKER_01]: And had Devers just glove the ball.

33:42.881 --> 33:44.242
[SPEAKER_01]: He would have doubled off the runner.

33:44.322 --> 33:45.984
[SPEAKER_01]: And the giants would have been out of that inning.

33:46.184 --> 33:47.985
[SPEAKER_01]: And Tidwell would have been out of it.

33:48.025 --> 33:50.608
[SPEAKER_01]: Like he would have given up like a really, really hard rocket.

33:51.268 --> 33:54.471
[SPEAKER_01]: But that's kind of like the stuff where you look at this team and you go,

33:56.626 --> 33:57.169
[SPEAKER_01]: We get it.

33:57.329 --> 34:00.582
[SPEAKER_01]: Devours is going to hit 30 bombs and he's going to drive in 85 runs.

34:02.371 --> 34:05.653
[SPEAKER_01]: But there's a trade off when he does play first base.

34:05.773 --> 34:16.659
[SPEAKER_01]: Now, maybe that play was going to be hard for many first basement, but you can also look at it and go, well, what is his reputation as a defender?

34:16.819 --> 34:19.041
[SPEAKER_01]: It's solid, but it's not spectacular.

34:19.481 --> 34:23.923
[SPEAKER_01]: As a third baseman, a former third baseman, should be used to the hot corner, right?

34:23.943 --> 34:25.284
[SPEAKER_01]: It's called the hot corner for the reason.

34:25.785 --> 34:27.926
[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he lost it in the light somehow, whatever.

34:29.343 --> 34:31.905
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just like, that's the season right there.

34:32.765 --> 34:39.169
[SPEAKER_01]: He gloves that ball, doubles the runner off, the giants go back into it, and they're hitting again.

34:40.089 --> 34:48.094
[SPEAKER_01]: Doesn't glove the ball, runners have first and second, Ranger score two runs, like that's kind of like, a good description of how the season has gone.

34:48.154 --> 34:51.516
[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then yes, yesterday they did not have a chance.

34:51.736 --> 34:55.118
[SPEAKER_01]: They were out of it from pretty much the first inning and it was done.

34:56.101 --> 35:00.147
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, games like yesterday, six nothing, right?

35:00.187 --> 35:00.928
[SPEAKER_00]: So it's nothing lost.

35:01.609 --> 35:03.732
[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to happen a lot the rest of the season.

35:04.874 --> 35:08.579
[SPEAKER_00]: But we are going to see some of the younger guys coming up.

35:08.820 --> 35:10.082
[SPEAKER_00]: I now at this point.

35:11.623 --> 35:22.771
[SPEAKER_00]: I think last week I was a little less thoughtful of this happening, but I think now we might see sooner Park's Harbor, Bo Davidson.

35:22.811 --> 35:37.180
[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys get a chance because they're definitely going to get a chance in spring training to make a dent in the 26 man and try to make it on because buddy Kennedy won't be around.

35:38.773 --> 35:46.979
[SPEAKER_00]: the rest of the year, hopefully, and he's not going to be fighting for his spot to make the opening day roster next season.

35:47.399 --> 35:51.362
[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we're going to see some of these younger guys coming up at some point in my blood.

35:52.083 --> 35:56.146
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, you'd rather see Parks Harbour get these at bats than Buddy Kennedy.

35:56.166 --> 35:59.148
[SPEAKER_00]: That's just, you know, that's just kind of how it is with Giants fans right now.

35:59.508 --> 36:01.169
[SPEAKER_00]: Look, we've had a horrible season.

36:01.209 --> 36:04.152
[SPEAKER_00]: This team is, you know, 20 games under 500 or so.

36:04.172 --> 36:05.312
[SPEAKER_01]: So we're right around there.

36:05.973 --> 36:06.093
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh,

36:06.341 --> 36:08.704
[SPEAKER_00]: we we've seen the trade deadline come and go.

36:08.724 --> 36:12.208
[SPEAKER_00]: We know this team isn't going to be fighting for anything in the rest of this season.

36:12.548 --> 36:15.232
[SPEAKER_00]: We're hungry now to see the future.

36:15.252 --> 36:21.199
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I think it's time to start kind of thinking of those guys in the next couple of weeks.

36:21.849 --> 36:22.670
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.

36:22.690 --> 36:24.110
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a perfect segue here.

36:25.191 --> 36:28.753
[SPEAKER_01]: So I was interested in looking at the prospect rankings.

36:29.194 --> 36:32.836
[SPEAKER_01]: And my guy, Sugo Slugs, who's in our discord.

36:32.916 --> 36:39.400
[SPEAKER_01]: And he's always talking about young players and prospects as he wants to see the Marcelo debut with an unlimited runway.

36:39.920 --> 36:41.782
[SPEAKER_01]: California kid fresh start, changes scenery.

36:41.842 --> 36:44.763
[SPEAKER_01]: No pressure, just stay away from scooters and airs here.

36:45.804 --> 36:46.104
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

36:46.124 --> 36:53.948
[SPEAKER_01]: He may need to stay away from certain parts of San Francisco, as far as I understand, like some of that bar scene, he might be a little tantalized.

36:54.469 --> 36:56.530
[SPEAKER_01]: But hey, I'm with you.

36:56.590 --> 37:01.552
[SPEAKER_01]: If he's healthy, he should just be the starting second baseman for the rest of the year, but I don't know.

37:01.592 --> 37:05.714
[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to get through some stuff with this injury still.

37:05.734 --> 37:08.156
[SPEAKER_01]: But he would be a reason to tune in, right?

37:08.376 --> 37:10.377
[SPEAKER_01]: You want to see what the dude has.

37:11.745 --> 37:24.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's talk about some of these, some of these prospects, what I wanted to see is where they were adjusted when it comes to the list, the prospect lists.

37:24.457 --> 37:25.719
[SPEAKER_01]: So we have.

37:27.749 --> 37:42.571
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... there's the baseball america list i know you use the fan graphs list which what is fan graphs use for for their list or do they have their own list i think they have their own list okay yeah and it's starting to kind of gain a little steam that's why i look at it a little bit more okay

37:43.152 --> 37:56.802
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, let's just say Joe Swar, he's got a full report written out by fan-graphs writers on his skills and everything else.

37:57.402 --> 38:01.585
[SPEAKER_00]: There's also TLDR, too long didn't refer to him.

38:02.606 --> 38:04.848
[SPEAKER_00]: They break it down and make it short for you.

38:05.809 --> 38:07.310
[SPEAKER_00]: I enjoy it.

38:07.850 --> 38:10.892
[SPEAKER_00]: It's done in basically like an Excel spreadsheet type of format,

38:13.120 --> 38:33.150
[SPEAKER_01]: So in some sort of order, when it comes to the top 100 and I'll just read from baseball America, because I know you can, you can say how how fan-graphs it is, but baseball America has Joe Sward 18, the least her name is a 36 Johnny level at 50, Johnny level hit an absolute bomb yesterday.

38:33.170 --> 38:35.571
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Jackson Flora at 51.

38:37.372 --> 38:40.393
[SPEAKER_01]: and then boat Davinson at 84.

38:40.994 --> 38:48.797
[SPEAKER_01]: So five in the top 100 and yeah, it's, you know, it looks nice.

38:50.178 --> 38:57.181
[SPEAKER_01]: If you go back through top 100 prospect lists of yesterday, you know, I don't know what the ratio is for hits versus Mrs.

38:57.221 --> 38:58.142
[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably low.

38:58.342 --> 39:01.023
[SPEAKER_01]: That's just the prospect evaluation thing.

39:01.764 --> 39:04.485
[SPEAKER_01]: Does fan graphs have a similar gauge there?

39:07.186 --> 39:08.507
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's a little bit different.

39:08.527 --> 39:12.048
[SPEAKER_00]: They've got six players in the top 100.

39:12.548 --> 39:15.829
[SPEAKER_00]: Keener Martinez starting pitcher who's in a ball right now.

39:16.269 --> 39:17.850
[SPEAKER_00]: He's jumped up a little bit.

39:17.870 --> 39:19.811
[SPEAKER_00]: He's actually number 92 now.

39:21.291 --> 39:22.712
[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Swar is 31.

39:22.772 --> 39:24.633
[SPEAKER_00]: Jackson, Florida is 34.

39:24.853 --> 39:27.033
[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a big difference.

39:27.134 --> 39:32.395
[SPEAKER_00]: Johnny level 60, Luis Hernandez is 64 and Marquez is 67.

39:33.876 --> 39:36.118
[SPEAKER_01]: So they bumped Mark has into their top 100.

39:36.138 --> 39:36.559
[SPEAKER_01]: They did.

39:37.279 --> 39:38.060
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

39:39.281 --> 39:41.363
[SPEAKER_01]: And so, I mean, that's, that's very interesting.

39:41.643 --> 39:47.288
[SPEAKER_01]: So just looking, I'm just going to look at the MLB version of this because it was the easiest one to find.

39:48.649 --> 39:53.154
[SPEAKER_01]: No changes in the top six based off of these trades.

39:53.194 --> 39:55.336
[SPEAKER_01]: The top six for the giant's prospects.

39:56.358 --> 40:08.847
[SPEAKER_01]: on on the MLB website, Joe Swar Hernandez, Johnny level, Gavin Keelen Dakota Jordan and Bo Davidson at six.

40:09.707 --> 40:13.249
[SPEAKER_01]: And then they have Mark has at seven so the judge just traded for him.

40:13.630 --> 40:15.891
[SPEAKER_01]: They have breast breast in hand at eight.

40:15.931 --> 40:18.373
[SPEAKER_01]: He was traded last year or two years ago.

40:21.316 --> 40:34.442
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... was the enemy uh... present hand was that the one the guardians one for alx calm i can't remember would you try out well yeah so that would have been two years ago right yeah so he's at um... high a

40:35.965 --> 40:53.695
[SPEAKER_01]: uh... and then uh... lollani that i i learned the pronunciation of Henry lollani yeah i heard that i'd like that it's very it's much more Hawaiian i like that uh... he's number nine uh... you mentioned martina's at ten uh... and then i'm looking for other guys who were in their deals 14

40:55.436 --> 41:07.183
[SPEAKER_01]: is Miguel Mendez and then 21 is Yonella Hernandez who hit another jack yesterday.

41:07.203 --> 41:09.805
[SPEAKER_01]: I would like, I don't know what the

41:10.645 --> 41:14.406
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, adding another 17-year-old to San Jose Schreitz.

41:14.486 --> 41:15.026
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the times.

41:15.086 --> 41:17.607
[SPEAKER_00]: One of the times I would love to see him up to you.

41:18.367 --> 41:22.328
[SPEAKER_01]: Kaden Kent at 22.

41:22.528 --> 41:27.090
[SPEAKER_01]: And those were the additions to the Giants top 30 prospects on MLB.

41:27.630 --> 41:29.950
[SPEAKER_01]: Kaden Kent, you look at his picture.

41:29.970 --> 41:30.511
[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, yep.

41:30.771 --> 41:32.311
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like a Kent man.

41:32.471 --> 41:34.152
[SPEAKER_01]: He looks exactly like a Kent.

41:34.172 --> 41:34.472
[SPEAKER_00]: He did.

41:36.092 --> 41:44.218
[SPEAKER_00]: you know what I do the only reason I don't like the MLB top 100 is because they take forever to add players and they don't even have floor on the list yet.

41:44.518 --> 41:53.784
[SPEAKER_00]: Floor is not on the list because I'm looking at you know I'm going back to fan graphs and I'm looking and Le Lani is number seven.

41:54.945 --> 41:58.667
[SPEAKER_00]: Wiz and Hunt still on this list at number eight he's got to be dropping at some point right.

41:58.727 --> 41:59.148
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah

41:59.988 --> 42:04.550
[SPEAKER_00]: Blate Tidwell of pitch, you know, really, really nicely the other day he's ninth.

42:05.291 --> 42:10.093
[SPEAKER_00]: Bowman is 10th, Parks Harbor, 10th, also a tight for 10.

42:10.633 --> 42:11.974
[SPEAKER_00]: Bo David's in 11.

42:12.074 --> 42:13.574
[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, there's a couple guys.

42:13.635 --> 42:19.937
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in our top 10 here that we could see at some point before the season is out.

42:20.678 --> 42:22.299
[SPEAKER_00]: And tugboat, we could also see tugboat.

42:22.319 --> 42:22.759
[SPEAKER_00]: He's number 15.

42:24.875 --> 42:31.377
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so yeah, so we'll be back next week and, you know, it's kind of funny.

42:31.397 --> 42:35.038
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much current day giants we're going to be talking about all season long.

42:35.058 --> 42:42.179
[SPEAKER_01]: We have to talk about some hopefully some of these guys like you said, if boat David's and does come up by the end of the year, that'll be something to watch.

42:42.219 --> 42:46.080
[SPEAKER_01]: And then like Sugo said, you know, Marcelo Meyer, I'm in.

42:46.300 --> 42:48.481
[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to see the guy on the field, you know,

42:49.566 --> 42:53.108
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, whatever the reason why the Red Sox traded him, so be it.

42:54.169 --> 42:54.970
[SPEAKER_01]: He's our guy now.

42:55.070 --> 42:56.551
[SPEAKER_01]: So let's figure out what he is.

42:56.831 --> 42:59.172
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mentioned that as well.

42:59.252 --> 43:00.353
[SPEAKER_01]: So all right.

43:00.833 --> 43:03.055
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you got date night to go to.

43:03.555 --> 43:06.217
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I actually have another podcast to do tonight.

43:07.017 --> 43:09.139
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so we'll see what I get to do.

43:09.759 --> 43:12.261
[SPEAKER_00]: But I'll have an old fashion for you.

43:12.281 --> 43:12.481
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

43:12.501 --> 43:12.681
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

43:12.721 --> 43:12.881
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

43:12.901 --> 43:13.081
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

43:13.101 --> 43:15.703
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I did have my, I see my new glasses.

43:15.723 --> 43:15.823
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

43:15.843 --> 43:16.583
[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

43:16.643 --> 43:17.484
[SPEAKER_01]: I did have my man.

43:17.504 --> 43:18.785
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're rich in.

43:19.345 --> 43:19.846
[SPEAKER_01]: Sweet.

43:19.947 --> 43:22.592
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you to everybody who was hanging out in the chat.

43:23.073 --> 43:25.457
[SPEAKER_01]: Davis, Stephendrae.

43:25.738 --> 43:28.282
[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, Sugo appreciated all of you.

43:30.146 --> 43:30.567
[SPEAKER_01]: That is it.

43:31.088 --> 43:32.911
[SPEAKER_01]: So for Brad, I am WG.

43:32.931 --> 43:35.175
[SPEAKER_01]: We will see when we see you peace out.

43:35.977 --> 43:36.277
[SPEAKER_01]: Peace.