Will George Kittle Play Week 1? 49ers Preseason Recap | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Rod, we have two preseason games to talk about for the 49ers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: not that wins and losses matter, but they did win one and they lost the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They kind of beat the beat the charges pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of it was late, second half kind of stuff, but I'm sure they felt pretty good about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First game, not so much, but the first game was

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[SPEAKER_00]: But into the news, just came out, I don't know, about an hour ago, for the 49ers are sending Zamir White to

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Saints for Dion Jones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dion Jones linebacker gives them a little depth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their linebacking course, a little beat up at this point right now, this far along in the preseason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they made that trade just to, yeah, just like an hour ago or so, at least as far as the reporting was concerned about about two hours ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you know about Dion Jones?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What immediately popped in my mind is what does that mean in terms of where they're at with Nick Martin that that was my that was where immediate where my mind went and that is he is it a little worse than it was or I don't know that it was ever reported how bad it was, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they know something that Lee's in the belief that he's not going to be right back out there, that would be a bill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I was looking forward to him getting some reps this season and what I hope would be a fuller like third line

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[SPEAKER_01]: role because like you know he's talented and you know and quite honestly Taylor Poon has paid Tata but but Thoon has been more productive than he has been but he is he's just a physically

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a freak athlete, and then couple of that with the fact that he's already established himself as a very good special teams player, so it would be a blow if he misses a significant amount of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at this point in time, you're not going to get a player of that caliber world, or as somebody like Dion Jones is more experienced right off the bat,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you'd rather, you know, obviously long-term or even short-term, you'd much rather the upside of a Nick Martin and the reps that I think that he needs to further develop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because this is a big year for him to be able to step forward and show that he is really the future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick Martin, I believe, heard his hamstring at the end near the end of the game on Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's kind of what we're waiting for to see how hurt he is with the hamstring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Other news coming out of the game today or out of practice, George Kiddell, he is off of, he is at, he's on the active list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounds like a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of prefer that he doesn't play, but it is against the Rams that is a team that they are going to be competing with for the division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh, but, I mean, the guy's a freak, her tears as ACL and his back on the field in something like 225 days or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what do you, what do you think about the kiddo news?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with shocker, spoiler alert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm on the other side, the most fans in this debate in that I think if he can play, he should play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not one who says, well, you should hold him back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for, you know, week two, because what's so, the, the analogy that I've positive is what you tell me is he'd be okay, week one versus the cardinals have Levi, but he can't be available for the first game and Australia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's a marketing matchup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's versus, you know, the presumptive favorite in, well, I guess people

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[SPEAKER_01]: would push back on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But one of the powerhouses in the league and in our division, I just if he can play and that that should be

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[SPEAKER_01]: the first benchmark, if he's clear to play and he could play, I think he should play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a big game, and it's a big stage, and I'm sure the league wants each of these teams to put their best before in this high-light, marquee matchup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess it's the 49er brass is just, it's not their job to, um, play cake to leave office and they're going to do what they deemed best and I see that part of it too, but I would love to see him out here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's cleared and they're not worried about the flight and the changes in the body because of the time zones and all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They think he's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think he wants to play, he could play if he's probable, I think I would kind of lean towards it, but if he's coming in questionable and they're kind of unsure, I almost would almost not want him to make that flight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, well, if it's a game time decision, then I don't think you have him go through that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But as I've said, this week on social that the counterpoint to the flight is that, well, number one, you have to trust.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You if you believe in the sports performance team or the 49ers, which

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess we're something some might not, but they're not fine commercial and there are things that can be done with the scheduling, with the meals, with dehydration, with the lighting on the plane that can mitigate a lot of the concerns of that kind of cross-continental travel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, if you

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[SPEAKER_01]: are able to implement those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if they know better than I do, they can't fulfill their staff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they can't handle that, and they're really worried about

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[SPEAKER_01]: how these guys are gonna show up on Thursday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then that is a, that's a mitigating factor too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that he's coming off of injury, I don't, I wouldn't expect him to play next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're talking about,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that game being the first game action.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then the counterpoint to that is what ever game it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be his first game action.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if it's week one or week two, if he's cleared, I've never understood if he's good, then

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is one more week going to do to make, is it, will it make him good or and I use that work, because I know it's, I know, I know it's not work, but is he going to be good or the next week by waiting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: lean towards one in the play, but I can see the counter points and all of the arguments against it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's a game and it's a division game and it counts and fully at full strength.

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[SPEAKER_01]: we're going to be up against it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we need all the bullets that we can manage against those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder if they have a number of practices.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that they would like to see him go through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's all I want interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, one of that's part of their reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if he can go if we think he's able to go hard in these practices because he was practicing today, but he didn't do any of the team stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he just did his his solo stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause see him see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was back as well and CMC at the end of the practice it was reported that he did go through team stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he is also back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a pretty newsworthy day for the 49ers when it came to their their practice getting two guys like that back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And but also.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had to

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how significant they were, but both Demo and scribbling didn't complete practice, so that was kind of newsworthy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And scribbling is coming off of another really good preseason game where it looks like they trusted him a lot and they went to him a lot and he had the drop that was

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[SPEAKER_00]: deeper would have been I don't I can't remember if he would have scored or not or if he was just short but he dropped one but was making all the other throws and you know there's lots of noise about him as somebody who's going to be able to be on the field a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and in our first show back from the break, we talked about it and we talked about rookies in this system and especially wider severs who are rookies in this system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it possible that dribbling can buck that trend and actually be somebody who is utilized on the field, day one, game one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I wouldn't see why not, but again, I hate to be a guy just, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: put in the damper on things, but like let's say, even if that's the case, because somebody I saw, I'm not sure if it was Wagner or, I don't, it wasn't called, but somebody positive on the internet today could he be why receiver one, week one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about that, but even if he has a significant role,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to out target CMC this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to out target kiddo this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: theoretically, both of those guys stay healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could double him up in targets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I would bet that side of a wager can do both kiddo and CMC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: double up his targets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would think so, and I would also think Debo would be in the mix for more targets than him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a crap shoot on a healthy Mike Evans also probably does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I don't, I'm one of the guys who is not bullish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on the number of games that Mike Evans will actually play this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't disagree that he can be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a big, kind of big conversation this week about, you know, the guy says, I'm, I'm got Matt says it, you know, he's a Hall of Famer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm not disputing that Mike Evans's career as a whole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a Hall of Famer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That dude shows up for 34 years old on week one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he shows up at all, that dude is not a Hall of Famer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, let's we need to temper our expectations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the same kind of Hall of Famer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Travis Kelsy is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: career wise, yes, but the guy who plays for the Kansas City Chiefs this year, that dude, all the family last year, and he's not going to be one this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just as far as time is, it's not, and that's not no disrespect to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Aging happens and to try to pretend that 2026 Mike Evans is the same as 2016 Mike Evans is just ridiculous, it's, they're not the same guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think whoever Matt is may have been parodying who's the guy that does the 49er games the broadcast, the broadcaster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the the color.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, Tim.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it Tim Ryan?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim Ryan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the one who said it on on the broadcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder if Matt was kind of just parodying what he said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, did you see the interview that Mike Evans did with the Vernon Glenn on the broadcast?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I did not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Vern Glenn, I've met Vern Glenn for Vern Glenn is a small man, he's not a tall man, and Mike Evans is a giant human being.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they had Vern Glenn stand on top of something to do this here, he would have had to because he's like my size.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a small guy, so yeah, I can't imagine like hold the microphone up, so it's a little bit, because the mic, mic looks huge, it looks like a giant dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's every bit of six, fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think of Stribling's current leader in the clubhouse for the nickname?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you heard this one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but you're sharing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this was also a Tim Ryan thing in week in the first game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he called it the strip club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that was going to stick, it's not one, that's not the one I heard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You heard it different when you heard it from me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll explain the strip club that you explained to Kittleland because I think the strip club is kind of clever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just hard to say, it's not a strip club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not an easy thing to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know how much it's sick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Steven A Smith is going to be yelling that one out on his shows, but what was the one that Kiddlested?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on honey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's George Kiddlestick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: George, honey, George.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So why don't we, I wanted to talk about some of these guys with you and just, you know, we could talk about the games themselves if you want, but there's just players that that I, I'm more so watching for performances than anything else like who stands out, who's doing something that looks like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it looks like they kind of belong on that field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And tripling definitely both games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look, I thought it looked fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about Ducker out there in the first two games?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He kind of pucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like he, you know, I think he's very, he's gonna be,

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[SPEAKER_01]: one to watch is where it gets tricky with these guys now is that who is that they're playing against and I haven't, I'm going to be honest, I haven't read up my PFF.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'm not able to do the research I do and to be really completely honest, I've watched both of those games on the condensed version, I didn't like watch that's why I

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[SPEAKER_01]: didn't hear any of the Tim Ryan's commentary because it's just the clips I'm able to watch both those games today and about an hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's more you know just looking at because that's what I like I am like you and that really what I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: interested in is the reps of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really put much stock in the wins or the losses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's really not about that for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I really like the way he looks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they got something in person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I almost thought it looked good yesterday, but that was definitely a guy who was like, who are they playing against at this point that make kind of that, you know, is what we don't know is if he's playing against school teachers and Amazon drivers, it's kind of a different deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for what he was asked to do out there, he looked good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, two guys who, I think we've been waiting to see if they're going to add value to the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, one of them took a punt all the way to the house on Thursday in Jacob Cowling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been just waiting to see him get on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We want to see his speed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was hurt all last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the year before maybe Shannon had one like one wide receiver screen thrown to him like and that was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he had some opportunities yesterday and so did Jordan Watkins Jordan Watkins caught a touchdown all I'll be at late in the game, you know, against the the the chargers bottom stringers, but what do you what do you think about those guys I feel like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All Cowling has to do is win the punt return job and he'll be on the team because, I mean, they threw Dibo out there for the first one and I was like, get that man away from the punt return team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I don't know why that was the kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even want Dibo on kickoff returns, but if you don't have anybody better,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're at least he's at least going to fall forward and and hold on to the football, but if if Cowen could do both, I haven't really seen him on the kick return team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've only seen him on the public turned team, but you know, maybe Watkins can do some of the kick return stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that would be the value that those guys could add, but man, Cowen looked fast on that return for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the only thing is, and, you know, feel free to disagree, obviously, I don't know either one of those, if one either one of those guys can make it just on special teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that they can afford with all the injuries with, you know, we haven't talked about it, but I think that

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a good chance Christian Kirk doesn't even make the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he hasn't been on the field except for like one time at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's one of those things where depth is going to be it's going to be it's going to matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to need guys who can you can't just go with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No matter what you think about it, you can't go with just scribbling D-Boe Robinson and who else, Molye Turner, do you, is that those are gonna be your guys, you were primary four and then you were filling in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they normally keep six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you decide to let's say keep both

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, my guy, you just mentioned it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Walk in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, walk in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you keep them both,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you can't just have them, they have to be able to get out there actually at the position and contribute if you have to all jokes aside, you can't count on Mike Evans to play 17 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think that at this stage of his career, I have been saying all the long from the signing being in the signing, you can get 12 good games out of him, prefer early towards the

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be a static with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think it is at this point in his career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be able to give you a full season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to construct your roster based on that contingency

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[SPEAKER_01]: 48 targets depending on how it works that you've got somebody that you feel really comfortable particularly I would imagine if we're getting even more specific somebody who can give you those reps at the X which of those two players, counting would be the guy that you would put in that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he would be incumbent upon him to be able to show that he is up to the challenge of taking meaningful reps if caught upon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at the games played for these guys over the last number of years and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Debo's average, Debo averages about 15 games per season over the last five years, and he only really missed games in his second year of his NFL career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Evans was very similar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was around 15 14 in in two seasons ago and last year was the first time that he missed any significant time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He only played in eight games to Marcus Robinson pretty solid numbers as far as games played he's played at least 16 games except for last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He only played 14, but I believe those were because of the suspension.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So even though those got, you know, even though Debo and Demarx Robinson have some tread on their tires, they are pretty dependable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Debo's going to be questionable for several games and just, you know, he's just going to tough it out and play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be opportunity for these younger guys to step on the field just because of that and, um, you know, it'll be interesting to see how much Shannon and trust them is he going to trust to Sean Stribbling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jordan Watkins and Jacob Cowling all at the same time on the same football field that that's going to be tough on but he might be forced to because the one that he wanted to be out there can't be out there because of his knee pretty Ricky's done so we don't you know that's not something that that they can even rely on you know maybe

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know creatively what you do, you know, when Kittle is back and, you know, you can you can have more creative sets just because Kittle is such a monster receiver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, CMC as potent potables said in the chatter ready, he's the cheat code.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is the cheat code, but you don't want to overuse him like they've sort of had to last year because they didn't have some of the other players that they could have thrown the football to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that, you know, and Kyle is so stubborn about those things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He might have to bite the bullet on some of this stuff and play these guys and give them opportunities to be out there because some of it just might be forced upon them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you can't rely on a Christian Kirk if you can't even practice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, two things that come to mind is that I love Debo first as I

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[SPEAKER_01]: in reality, what we learned in Washington last year is he's not an other one receiver and he needs, he really needs an X outside to really unlock him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then too, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: we know how Kyle loves Debo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, because there were times in his last season here, where there were stretches where they really felt like he was forcing, forced for him, Debo to ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, from what the past tells me is that Debo is going to get plenty of uses, usage, Kyle is going to feature Debo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what that means is these young guys

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, making it impossible for him to um, because that's just Kyle has always been that's why CMC, kiddo and Debo are going to get the lion's here or the rap season and then Evans to whatever extent, especially in the red zone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, talk about a cheat code and even at his advanced age, I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: still think he's, you know, win healthy, still one of the best options down there, just simply because he can post things up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And most NFL DBs just can't compete with the size and with Brock being such an accurate pastor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that they will definitely our red zone offense should be a tonne improved over what it's been the past several seasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I look forward to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, that's why I hope he is able to stay on the field for, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: significant stretches of time this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's going to be interesting, but I think these guys are going to have to force Kyle's hand hand if they want to get on the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have to make it impossible for him to deny them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the other guys that I wanted to talk to you about

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ramello, height.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna get some plan time if my Cal Williams is not ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it doesn't look like he's gonna be ready for the start of this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously Nick Bosa, the hope is that he will be, but he's still coming back from his knee injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like height's gonna get on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What if you thought him so far?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has been to me as advertised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a situational pastor, and I think he can thrive in that position, but you hit on what one of my main topics for this week was is in terms of ranking or a percentage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nick Boses, not only his on-field performance, but just his presence is going to be vitally important to set everybody else up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just his presence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my question was, at what percent, does Nick Boses have to be to give us that kind of impact?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can a 75% Nick Boses

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[SPEAKER_01]: still create enough disruption that teams have to gain plan for him, and then it leaves also, and the guys in the middle, Collins, and halting, if that's the way they decide to go, and then whoever ends up height or whoever it is that ends up at the other

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[SPEAKER_01]: critical at what point do we get to a place or diminishing what's turns if it's if both is only at 60% is it are we better off just letting him or cook array and let these other guys sorted out but if he's at 75 80% can he still be effective enough

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was funny because I was going to ask you a Nick Bosa question, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He seems like a guy who needs to feel like things are...

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[SPEAKER_00]: not perfect, but really good for him to feel comfortable and to feel prepared and to feel ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, that's not to say that he doesn't play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he's always hurt all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like these guys are beat up constantly, but like the perfect Nick Bosa in the Nick Bosa who signed for the largest contract for a defensive alignment at that time,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That version of Nick Bosa, he probably has to feel pretty close to, you know, as good as as you can get at that level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if he is not closer to 90% I kind of wonder if they if they just tell him to to hang out and miss the first four weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been hurting anything by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know it sounds like he's kind of on target but I you know that a lot of that stuff is so whispery and secret secret that you know we don't we don't really know we only know what is being reported.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we don't have both of the and Williams to start the season, it's not a great, it's not a great thing for the defense, a whole, I mean, it's going to be a lot of Fred Warner, it's going to be a lot of who's going to in the secondary make plays because there's going to have to because there's going to be more time for the key to throw it's going to be a lot of that and I can't imagine that Rahim Morris is like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready for this like you're ready for what you want to do because you have Nick Bosa rushing the passers what you're ready for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll be tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the I guess the longer we don't hear about him is kind of the the worry for me, but I was what I was going to ask you was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does Nick Bosa have to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the 18 sack version of Nick Bosa for the 49ers defense to play well enough for them to be in the upper echelon of the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he has to be that good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that necessarily he needs to be game record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nick Bosa to impact things, but he's still he has to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, maybe not a top five defensive end early, but he has to be top 10, top 12 when we're looking at impact stats, you know, hits, quarterback hits, quarterback pressures, quarterback sacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to be, it doesn't need to be top five, but he needs to be productive and make offensive coordinators,

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[SPEAKER_01]: worry about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they can just single block him like they were able to do a lot before he got was finally out this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a problem because the defense is not predicated on it is it seems to me as a layman from the outside looking in that the defense line is built for Nick Boatford to take two and sometimes three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, to set everybody else up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and there is an expectation that 30, 40% of the time, he's going to be able to defeat that double team and still wreak havoc.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, that's a lot to ask, but when you have his talent and you're being, honestly, we this be real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's being paid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like somebody who is supposed to be able to honor record on a, you know, a semi-consistent basis to beat double teams and make plays off of double teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think you're, I don't know that he has to be defensive player of the year level, but he needs to be just below that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what, you know, and let's add in the fact that I'm sure he's looking for an extension.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it, it behooves him to show that he could still be that guy to get that money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to save this one for a little bit down the list because it's not super duper important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what do you think about this Curtis Rork and Adrian Martinez QB3 battle?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I was hoping we would get to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to bring that up because he didn't play this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we didn't, you know, I wasn't here last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we didn't get to talk about his performance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he didn't play this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I was, I came away very impressed with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: last week, the efficiency and kind of like Brock in that not as good as Brock, but I didn't say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the way that he made decisions and it seemed like, you know, 14 out of 16 aside, it seemed like he made the right decision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: most of the time with where he went with the ball because, you know, completions can be deceiving because you watch the all 22 and you see, you know, sometimes guys are here to check down and they'll get to completion but there was something more that they could have had down the field that they either missed or were scared to attempt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why the completion numbers can,

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in looking at that game last week, I made a point to look at him to see if where he went with the ball and I was very impressed with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he would have to show me a little bit more and then obviously Kyle and then would have to be comfortable enough with him to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the return would have to make sense if you tell me if you tell me weak six, be sure to give me a third round pick in next year's draft, which is supposed to be one of the all timers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do that for sure and then you know anything above that so you tell me you're gonna give me a two for Mag Jones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is his lockers getting cleaned out today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know that I would trade it for like a fifth round pick or nuts alone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not giving him away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, it's pretty clear that they weren't gonna do that because they didn't trade them before the draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now with the work thing,

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[SPEAKER_01]: a few more performances like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be comfortable with him being the backup, because we have to remember that, although this is like his first significant plan on technically he's not a rookie, well he's not a rookie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was around all last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and then he's a matured dude, and again, what he showed,

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[SPEAKER_01]: not that it's apples and apples, I'm not making that comparison, but he looked just like the guy who was at Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He showed me in that small sample size that the things that were his strengths at the level below appear to be what

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the league and are what people look to from Mac Jones as his stress.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just think that work is better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I, he's got a little athleticism to him, which is one of the big things that was always going to be a demerit against Mac,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and again, everybody or anybody who has listened to us were any of my time knows how I feel about trade, but he's just a more talented football player than that Jones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would take I was joking with somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on the group chat, watching the game, that how many Russian's would it take mages to get 37 yards?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the consensus was like four or five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's, you know, the athleticism portion of the game is just, it's not in a way that it was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: even 10 years ago when Dancer when I see young was it's it was a nice thing to have it's a prerequisite now you just can't be a statue back there you have to be able to move you have to be able to extend the play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and that is something that work is able to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why Adrian Martinez is interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think, I believe you care about work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just a better player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Martinez looks like what you would expect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: someone trying to win a QB3 battle out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's running around sometimes he's kind of confused.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's trying to create plays with his legs because he knows that the other team is gonna blitz because the offensive line is not great when you're in the third quarter or fourth quarter near the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People are tired, people just want to get out of there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he's like trying to do stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when he has to sit there in the pocket,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and the defense does something to force him to make a throw that he doesn't want to throw sometimes he just throws it like there was a pick six in this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was another one that I think may have gotten dropped that he threw right into the defense of a backhand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rock looked like he was in control, Martinez looked like he was being controlled, and I think that's the main difference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we didn't get to see Rock in game 2, he hurt his rib.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is also part of the thing he didn't play last year, hurt his rib already, so he's got to prove that he can be out there, but just for best version of each guy, Rock clearly looks like the better player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you hit on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not say that, but he's very, he's a very poised player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's an old as you, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I, I liked what I saw from him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw on Thursday,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They kept comparing him to Jordan Mason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to give him those Jordan Mason kudos quite yet because Jordan Mason did it for real for the 49ers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what it looked like just in the couple of series that he played, it looks like he reads the play and hits the whole really quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the speed beyond that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he has great speed beyond that, but from the balance and the feet and the ability to read and hit the whole, he looked really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, wow, you know, there might be something to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the thing that I think about, and this is the thing that we talked about a couple of years ago when Mason will in the field, if you are to take out Christian, if you're going to take Christian out of the game and you want to sub in a player,

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[SPEAKER_00]: usually would want to sub in someone who plays a little bit more similarly to Christian because if not, you're kind of telling the other team that we aren't able to run all of our plays with this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what Kaylin is like out of the backfield.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that was his strong suit when he was coming out of college.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, Mason

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[SPEAKER_00]: became okay at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had to do more because he was playing in the 49er system and CMC got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for just from a straight ahead running, the football standpoint, black looked pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And with the you hit on the exact point that I was making is that he does look a lot of like George Mason, but we saw that they were basically forced to play Jordan Mason because they just didn't have Christian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then if they were really comfortable with him being the number two, why would they trade him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Caleb Black and college was not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't really caught upon to be a receiver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then everybody, like, went eight, due to over him at the East West Game, talking about how in practice he caught everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, which is great, but I mean, what you're doing, like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Shales and shorts is not really the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it runs at real routes like he's not normal, you know, guy just catching passes out of the backfield.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He will go out wide sometimes to, you know, to do stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's just interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, I, I have long said on this platform that I think that when he starts to lose juices and running back, they think it easily moved him to the slot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that's what he wanted to do, he is, he's just that good as a receiver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so nobody's going to replace that, but to your point, I think Jordan James is more

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[SPEAKER_01]: back up for CMC, but he can't stay on the field up to this point, although he did return.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He returned yesterday, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I saw a report to him as CJ West returned to practice yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe he can get up to speed enough to show us something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still trying to figure out how I can go to the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I still, I'm technically not supposed to beat Howard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like that right now, but I, as we saw, I, I got, I made a compelling argument to go to Hershey Pennsylvania for a concert, so maybe, maybe Chuck's in town, maybe, maybe you think I can use that again, that worked on, but yeah, that is, it's going to be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The 53 is going to be a lot, it's going to be very interesting, it's going to be one of the more interesting cut down situations that we've had in the last.

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[SPEAKER_01]: several years about what position gets how many players who gets kept, who gets let go, who's able to make it through waivers to make it to the practice squad?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's going to be a lot of activity on this cut-down day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's weird, it's, you know, this week is the last preseason game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, this, this, this upcoming Thursday with their last game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then then there's a traveling, do you know when they're actually leaving to go to Australia?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hadn't seen it reported, but my hope had been that they would just go early and get acclimated and then do it that way, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I saw something where the Rams are basically going to try to mimic as close as possible to just a regular week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how that works when you've got a 15 hour flight and I think the Niners are going over a week early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the games I think that would be great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're going like the second or something like that or that's when they start their trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's smart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really think that's smart, that's smarter than like waiting, you know, five or six days longer to get there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I hope that that is the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there any other player that you wanted to talk about that we did not get to?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, most of it was just injury related, um, the Renardo Green is injury is kind of troubling and, you know, Jack Jones is trying to um, you used trying to to make a push.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, it shows up on the television screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a hard time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: believing that Raheem Moore is specifically is gonna give up on green this quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's something to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the only other note that I had was that is that gonna be a thing moving forward?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That seems like to really only battle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still kind of, you know, we went into the office, went into the draft season and came out of the draft season, still with no clear, identical, identifiable answer at free safety, which is in this system, gonna be kind of troubling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I trust I'm going to choose to trust right here more as in his defensive back expertise to kind of figure this out because I think that whatever way he goes with the current construction of his room is going to be trying to fit a square pick and around home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are guys that can play

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[SPEAKER_01]: free safety, but I don't know that there are ideal fits at that position, and then you couple that with the fact with the still question marks on with the past rush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be, it's going to be an adventure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, writing more is a respected dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a

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[SPEAKER_01]: we've never seen him put in the kind of performance to solid put in last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's really, at some point, seeing like it didn't matter who the hell was gonna show up and he didn't really even know when we was gonna have from week to week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But every week he was able to come up with a game plan, they kept him in the game and was able to make play calls when they counted that

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[SPEAKER_01]: stop things from happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then to his, what Ryan Morris had, the solid didn't have, which is a big deal is Warner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you add Green Law to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So those,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Warner especially is just a race route there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever mistakes the defense makes, he's able to make up for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No interior, the interior, run game, breaks down, no problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got it, I got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, you know, we haven't really used him like that, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: shit if we're not getting any outside past rush on him up let him go make a play he's that kind of player he I trust him implicitly To go make something happen and um, you know having green wall back with if when he's out there he is a real difference maker

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is, you know, he's one of the best at that weekside line backwards and he's one of the best in league at that win healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think just by their presence alone, the defense is going to be better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would really be nice if we could get some semblance of the disruption of Nick Bosa to, um, I'd be a lot less to say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd be a lot less concerned about the defensive back for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if they had all three of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, both in particular.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think we've covered everything that I had on my list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then let's end with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you like Kyle Shanahan's mustache?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I definitely do not, and I'm not a guy that normally has a opinion on men's face here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He kind of looks ridiculous, I am not a fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks like he's trying to disguise himself in some way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You remember when Chris Paul, Chris Paul and Cliff Paul, remember they were doing those commercials?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like he's going to do a commercial for Kyle and Keith Shanahan and like he's portraying Keith Shanahan on the sidelines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just like, uh, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe he's like a magnum PI fan when he's a kid, but he's magnum PI.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he could have seen some magnum PI when he's a little kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it kind of looks goofy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, uh, he, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're always reminded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was reminded about it all the time when he got to a game and he'd have to come back with so much of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a great one, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, who, like, mate?

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe and that this could be the reason, maybe the, maybe his wife likes it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and that's a great reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope that's the reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because otherwise, if this is a choice by him, yeah, private choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's he he's a young-ish looking dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he put that mustache on himself and he kind of aged himself up about 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back next three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't know Saturday Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll figure out that the right time because then we're going to have some time between.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the last preseason game and then the very first regular season game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe we'll, we'll do like a preseason kind of thing at some point to kind of give our thoughts on the on the season, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're almost there, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is this has happened in fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For Rod, I am double G. We will see you when we see you piece out.