Tugboat Wilkinson's MLB Debut & Our Favorite Giants Teams of All Time | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to Thompson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Clark Bradnire here on a Monday evening Giants play the red later tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will not talk about that game because then we'll have already happened by the time a lot of people listen to this But we will talk about some of the moves that they made before the game The just announced like literally hot off of the press They made some moves because

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[SPEAKER_01]: some guys are hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had to replace them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Willie Adomas is finally going on the I.L.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not because of his back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually because of his elbow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know there was some talk about his back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's his elbow that sent him to the deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Victor Baricoto, knee bone bruise, J.T.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brubaker,

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[SPEAKER_01]: bruised ribs, Bryce Eldridge on the bereavement list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You said it was his grandfather?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think they mentioned his grandfather passed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a talk that he made missed the entire since an ice series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then a guy that we're gonna talk about in a second, the Tugger, Tugboat Matt Wilkinson, he also got optioned to make room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who did they make room for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Walker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All the names you know and love, Nate Furman, Grant McCray, at least I like one of those names.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anthony Molina, and Shay Whitcom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, some of these guys that they have on their roster today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they're going to be guys that in 10 years Grant Brisbee is going to use to make fun of that only the die hardest of Giants fans will know who these guys are like he pulls some of these guys out of his rear end sometimes to make them point that's going to be some of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, that's five in and five out, man, that they're making, well, I mean, why not bow David tonight?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they didn't want to burn an option or something, but that dude is killing the baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why not him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and again, I think it's one of those things because he's not on the 40 man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're not on the 40 man, already, and there's a chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to get some more work in because you're a prospect for the giants and the giants want you up next year or in the next couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If there's a lockout and a lot of baseball is missed, if you're not on the 40 man, you're considering a minor league player and you are not locked out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there will be a minor league season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: regardless, and so I'll be able to, I'll be going a lot of Renoace's games, I think, currently in the season next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so I think that's the main reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, if there isn't delay and start the season, I'm gonna be very mad because I want more than just Bryce Elders in the Logan Web to root for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me both Davidson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I could at least turn on the game and go, oh, I could see some babies here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see what's going to go on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you're saying you don't think the names of like you don't want to see in the line up next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jonah Cox buddy Kennedy Oslovus Bassabe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not excited for 2027 filled with those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they were bench players, I think they'd be really solid bench, but the joints would have a solid bench with those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to need there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to have a good bench in the starting lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not something right here, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, you do have to make up that starting lineup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk a, we're not really going to talk about the games that much, but I did want to mention I was on the pesky podcast last weekend or last week before the weekend and they wanted to talk about devours going back to the Red Sox and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought you know, I thought he was going to play well because that's just a place where he hits the baseball really well and he hit the home run in that first game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I told those guys awesome guys by the way, it's a really, really cool show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had some really cool graphics and we talked about

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you guys have to sweep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you guys don't sweep, you know, the giants aren't even really trying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're putting out lineups that are look like more like sprint training lineups and anything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, you guys got to sweep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Plus they don't have a bullpin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even if the giants get an early lead, like you should be able to attack the bullpin and get wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's literally exactly what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we were talking about the reception that divers would get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I asked those guys, I was like, you guys tell me, I don't know what that crowd

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[SPEAKER_01]: And at first it was a very negative reaction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then it sounds like they played a video after the fact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And...

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[SPEAKER_01]: it was mixed, I guess more mixed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully they got their booze out, you know, wait, we get it, like we still, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With I don't think Devours is ever going to be like a super fan favorite here, but I don't, I don't feel like he's dogging it or that he's, you know, not trying or that he's being

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of hard to deal with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just not going to be a good media guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be the lead dog in the clubhouse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He would rather be like your third or fourth best player and he can just kind of fit in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's what he wants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was I was actually in San Francisco during the Boston series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did get home in time to watch Saturday, evenings game and then I was home Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I really only I was in San Francisco for the Friday

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was kind of fun because I got to see him hit the home run in Boston.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was at a at the field works brewery across the the the channel from Oracle Park because we went to a concert Friday night at Oracle Park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I got to see Devers hit that home run in Boston, which was kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was no sound on, but it was blast to watch and having to go back there and do

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to go there and get swept, I mean, that was part of the script of 2026, so I was not shocked at that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bullpans can't hold leads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just all kinds of things, all kinds of problems.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, these are, these are not problems that are fixable this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this is if we told you that I don't even know the I got to go back and look at the names if this is so bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we told you that on August 24th of 2026, you could be seeing Nate Furman, Grant McCray, Anthony Molina and Shay Whitcom get called up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know that there were problems yeah you know that there were issues so that's kind of we're at right now so so having those little things where it's like devil's goes back to Boston let's see you know boom he's our guy now do it you know it's kind of gets you a little amped up and stuff so we get little things here let's talk about tugboat here

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tugboat Matt Wilkinson, he made a start on the 19th at Cleveland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was more of an opener than anything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He threw two innings, gave up one hit, no walks, no strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did just very clean in and out, and that was it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so then they gave him another start on yesterday's game against the red socks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three and two thirds, seven hits, four runs, all earned one jack to strikeouts and no walks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a little bit of a rough real start there in that second game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much you caught of it, but I was kind of looking at the numbers, and I think he had 90 on his fastball a couple times, but it's not gonna be, you know, he kind of reminds me of a little bit and not anywhere the way that he looks, but just I'm wondering if he could get away with this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is like the last time we saw somebody throw this soft and get away with it was Kirk reader.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a long time ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a different game now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That I thought about that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, you know, Rick Rushell, curator, you're thinking about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're going, can that survive in 2,026, 27, 28?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'd love to see it after the first two innings and his first start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, well, in Cleveland, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, maybe, I mean, it's possible, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but then we saw him going and extended, you know, a couple of

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[SPEAKER_00]: Guys like Tugboat, guys like Dylan Smith, Dylan Smith's especially, I mean, he's really coming around as a reliever and he's coming into some big spots and getting some big hot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what we're going to have from now until the end of the season is what Ken guys do, how can they improve?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How can this coaching staff improve those guys?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's super important too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Tugboat's going to need some work, but man, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is all valuable experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to get that experience of the giants or

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[SPEAKER_00]: five or six games over 500 right now fighting for a wild card spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still going to be in triple A pitching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So at least, hey, hone your skills up in the big leagues against big league hitters in big league ball parks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, get used to the travel and the fine dining, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fine dining versus triple A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The paycheck is the love better, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's way better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, get all that under your belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and bring all that in 2027 with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, he's going to be a guy that will have an opportunity to make the big league club next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's also probably a guy where he might be better suited in the bullpen and you know, who knows?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know if you can even have guys who don't throw 90 regularly in the bullpen either, but it'd be difficult.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we talk about was in hunt very similar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was in hunt does throw a little bit harder, but it was in hunt doesn't blow people away with anything by this change up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: just another thing that they're going to have to figure out for next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be surprised if either guy was like, you know, a main cog in the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is a rotation that, you know, you had Logan Webb and and Robby Ray as your two guys and now you know, and so you're trying to make up some of that if you want your team to be about pitching in defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's we haven't talked about this yet and we're going to do it as a part of our we haven't brought we haven't busted this one out in a while because the Dodgers have just been not nice to us these last couple years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, let's bust this one out bitter giants fans are back, baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Dodgers on the field, you know, they're not the best team record-wise in baseball, but I think they're kind of, you know, they're pacing themselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got their pitching kind of back at the right time for them, but it's more off the field than on the field right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it with owners, man?

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[SPEAKER_01]: First, Jed York, kind of pick up hookers and Ohio and is that what it was?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't know that's what the story was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw a headline on it today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, yeah, that's what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gotta do what you gotta do, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know how the Niners, they've had this thing for the longest time and I hate it so much, but it's like this shield thing and it says the quest for six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I just feel like it's nothing but bad luck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been around for about 30 years, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody changed it and it said the quest for sex.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So thanks, Jed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You goofball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh man, nothing like the goofball owner to just shine a bad line on your team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I would get the season going and win some football games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Us is Giants fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We also have our own goofball owners too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and so hopefully we're going to be talking about the Dodgers goofball owner here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mark Walter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to sell his share of the L.A. Lakers, and we were all kind of like, huh, what's going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, there's a investigation going on about his business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get two insurance companies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that invested money collected from policyholders by lending it to businesses that were then expected to pay it back with interest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the question is about whether or not some of those loans finance companies with ties to Walters, Walter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and we're not identified as affiliated or related party transactions as is required.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, is he doing stuff on the low, on the down low, and risking money for his sports teams, and this, that, and the other thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know enough about how this works because I'm not a super rich guy, who, haha.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, who seems like moving money and like all these different businesses and accounts, but you know, he was investigated and then when he had to sell the lake or then people were like, huh, I wonder what happened during that investigation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now obviously the question turns to the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... there's a story that John O'Rand put out the other day where walter went to their uh... art their their cable deal i think it's through charter uh... whatever their rsn is the regional sports network did did dodgers have like one of the sweetest paying regional sports networks out there

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he actually went to them supposedly, according to John O'Ren, and said, hey, can I borrow against what you guys are going to pay us over the next X number of years, 10 years or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can I borrow against that money?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're like, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that story came out and people were like, wow, like how does this do so hard

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's obviously trying to get his liquid value up and moving for whatever reason is the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Bill Plashky, L.A. Times writer, who a lot of Dodgers fans don't like because he's a little bit of a doomsday kind of guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's big time, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He basically wrote that, you know, if anything happens to Walter, they could lose Friedman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Otani has an out in his contract that says, if Friedman or Walter is not affiliated with the Dodgers anymore, he could opt out of his deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, he's on, you know, he's going to be getting paid until like the early 2040s for the rest of this money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 680 million of his 700 million dollar deal is all deferred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, so that's coming in the future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if he's like, hey,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, this thing is a little shady.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason why I did this is because I wanted you to then invest the money today and the team to make the team good and they're like, oh, we, you know, maybe they can't do that in the future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he would want to renegotiate his contractor opt out and go to a different team who knows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So plashki wrote about that

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little nice nugget for us to kind of cheer about because our baseball team doesn't give us anything to cheer up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're right, cheer on the frustration of Dodger fans right now, though, I will say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: my buddy Pedro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think he's kind of realistic about the scenario.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, yeah, it's not a good look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, this dude could be screwing with people's money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can't really say, you can't really look into the future and say what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think most Dodger fans are taking the lane of

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just rich guy stuff like we'll believe negativity when we see it and if he's forced to sell the team then I think they will pay attention But outside of that I don't think they're going to be too bothered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What says you what's gonna what's gonna get Mark Walter to sell this team and to free up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She'll hailed Tony again You know I It's tough because Baseball players are are built differently, but I should just say you know

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[SPEAKER_00]: people who play sports in general, especially professional athletes are built differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to block this stuff out, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the Dodgers have just won six games in a row.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not, it's not really a problem for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're worried about what's on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Dave Roberts, I don't think he gives a crap right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just worried about, hey, I've got a job to do and that's three

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[SPEAKER_00]: this season is not going to affect the whole lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be an offseason thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's also going to be an offseason thing because it's going to probably play into a little bit of negotiations when it comes to the collective bargaining agreement because if you've got owners who are deferring money,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then going out and doing all these shady investments, that's a bit of an issue for the players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think in the off season, behind closed doors, in the finance rooms, it's not on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's effective on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's gonna bother them on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it could really play into some stuff in the off season, I think, which would be really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it did come up in negotiations,

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[SPEAKER_00]: other owners aren't doing the same thing or can't do the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we need to look at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, I think the deferral of deferralment of money only helps out the richest teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the Pittsburgh pirates are not going to be deferring any money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't, you know, they can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know, you will see as far as what ownership looks like in the next 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's part of the reason why these guys, the owners want to salary cap is because they believe that it'll increase the value of their franchises.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it has in the NFL and the NBA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Major League Baseball has more a tonnage of packages, of games to sell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they probably feel like we should be even more valuable than these 16 game NFL teams outside of the ones that are constantly in the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's an interesting argument.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the players are ever going to come to the table on a salary cap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Could you do more?

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[SPEAKER_01]: With the the tax stuff, you know, hitting these different levers of how much money I would love to see them have a floor where you were were these teams are forced to spend more money in order to be in major league baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just think that that deferment stuff is only for rich teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is me saying that all well, the giants were ready to do exactly for show Hey, Otani what the Dodgers did because that's what he wanted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were like, yeah, we're in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just tell us, you know, you tell us where you want to sign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that they were willing to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure there's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: payments that are that are deferred on current contracts today that is not crazy like autonies, so it's probably not talked about, but it's, I'm sure it's out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This whole thing with the off season, I'm kind of glad that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we still have season left because I don't want to have to deal with this crappy office like what the hell are we going to talk about it like it's going to be such a boring podcast the time instead of talking about free agency and trades and prospect we're going to be talking about these two stubborn sides meeting and budding heads and you know the the wealthy owners against the rich players and like I mean I will always

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, everyone's kind of a jerk in these moments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just hope I know it's going to be painful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just hope that they're smart enough to understand that they've made a lot of movement since the last time that we had this in 1995 because like people were hating baseball in 1995,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and you know the thing too is, you say that and I'm, I'm,

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[SPEAKER_00]: fearing a bit that there is some disinterest in baseball right now because you get a team like the Dodgers who have won back-to-back world series championships and they just traded for tarot scuba and they have the prospects and the money to do what they want when you get to the postseason postseason games are fun to watch but you always have that

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[SPEAKER_00]: but the Dodgers, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This game is great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This series is great, but the Dodgers are next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's kind of a problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know Ghost of Geralitis says, he's watching the show and he or she.

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[SPEAKER_00]: didn't say is posting and and talking about the brewers winning the world seriously.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we know the brewers fail at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just kind of what they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's always with the brewers, but the Dodgers are next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what happened to them last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that's a bit of the issue right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have that disinterest with

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[SPEAKER_00]: The regular season is 162 games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're in late August right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As a Giants fan, we're almost 30 games under 500.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where do we turn because our biggest rival is smoking everybody and possibly on their way to a back-to-back-to-back world series championship?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So where do we turn?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who do we root for?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do we watch?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do we do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just kind of start, if you're a baseball fan, you start to watch the stories of baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, P crow Armstrong becomes the Cubs first 30 30 guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you start to watch those players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's something needs to change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem I have with the floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: of a salary cap is that you're gonna get teams like the Pittsburgh pirates who are giving Christian costs way too much money to play for them because they need a guy who can play three positions and they're gonna give him 25 million a year to do it just so they can hit that floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where I have a problem with a floor salary cap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how to work that and make it be legit, um, there are smarter people in the room than me that will figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's what I worry about as a fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you know who doesn't care about that one bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris impression cost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, bring it on, baby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's on the floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Christian cost, you know, Slava's beset, Basabe are totally fine with this, uh, floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have no issue with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we're gonna end this on a high note because this season has been about so much negativity and we're trying to, you know, we make fun of a lot of it, but we do want to think about a time in our lives when we were enjoying watching the Giants play baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have to deal with, you know, people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: putting Bible verses on their hat on Pride night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have to deal with, you know, can be ours associate producer have in a hot mic and bad mouth thing, Buster Ozy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We ended up to deal with all those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we were dealing with some really good things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Brad and I have put together our five favorite giant teams of all time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's start with five, number five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will let you begin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanna hear, what is your fifth favorite giant team of all time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I already made my list last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You sent me yours this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not send you mine because I might just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mind's funny because when you said to do this, I thought, you know what, my top five probably changes a little bit as each year goes by.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As we get older, we kind of think about the past teams a little bit differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My number one is probably going to shock you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll get her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My number five is the 2002 San Francisco Giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had a blast watching that team, Matt Summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The world series, even though we lost as a special place in my heart because it was my wife and I was our one-year anniversary.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We went down to Disneyland,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have pictures of, and this is when Disney owned the anti-manuals, and so I have pictures of Disney California Adventure, which had just opened not too long before this, with the rally monkey hanging from the Golden Gate Bridge, the Giants and Angels Banners hangering the California World Series, as how they pitched it, everything was crazy down there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Disney land for game six and seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Woo!

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was nuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Went back to the room for game six because I thought I'm going to celebrate here and then we're going to go back into hits and rides.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When the world series is going to go back in and hit some rides.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't pan out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We still went back and hit some rides.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot about it, got over it pretty quick, because I was in Disneyland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that 2002 San Francisco Giants, I mean, you look at that, you look at that line-up with Canton, or really a David Bell bonds, the great Siyoshi Shinjo playing centerfield for the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 1.9 War that year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 38 with nine bonds stole us five base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember we thought Shinjo is going to come over and steal 40 bases.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He stole five just like young who we thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, who was our stolen base leader that year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me think about this quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a little bit of a of a larger berry bonds of that I don't think you're gonna get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you're okay And can he laugh it was on the team, but it was not him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't him, huh?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can he laughed and played 46 games for them that year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was not him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Dave Roberts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he wasn't on that team until five years later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, I don't know Reggie Sanders

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice, right-fielder Reggie Sanders, 250 batting average, 18 stone bases, 23 bombs, almost a 20, 20 guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go, that they were, they would have been on my next five for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the reason why they didn't make my five is because the heartbreaking was just tremendous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I was so upset.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is pretty rare.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there are some moments like a 2016 warriors that was really upset in a sense because it just felt a little bit unfair, like the NBA can feel unfair at sometimes where they're like, mmm, are they kind of the recipe?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they playing with the thing here a little bit?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that series, the thing that bothered

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[SPEAKER_01]: it was because of decisions, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Choices that the Giants and Dusty Baker made, that were the wrong decisions to make in those moments as you play out the game, taking out Russell T's, giving Russell T's that ball, that, you know, that whole thing, turning to, uh, was it, uh, was it leave on

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I believe it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was because Russ game six Lee Bond game seven and wasn't Schmidt was like, no, I can't go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't that one of the times believe so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was kind of messy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's just like messy ending to a fun year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And those guys were on fumes, like Rob Nend, they turned off the radar gun, because he was not throwing hard enough as he used to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they turned off the radar gun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, like that was rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just remember the heartache more than I remember the great season, just because that's how it is sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, they would have been on my back end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, if we were to do a top 10.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My number five was 2012.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I included all three world series teams on my five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I will tell you, the, some of the other teams that were not quite there in my top five, 1986, which would have been like my year of giant space

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[SPEAKER_01]: they can be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't never thought that that was part of the, I just thought we were always going to be bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like no way they can be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they had all those young guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A 2021, that was the last time that you and I were like, what is this season?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we're, you know, this season ever a little surreal as we're talking about it on this podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we had that funky three game series against the Dodgers, even though they had the two best records in all of baseball and they had to play against each other, like just silly stuff like that, where you're like, yeah, come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, some of those other teams that I would say, probably, here's a weird one, 1994,

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[SPEAKER_01]: only because in that strike season, the giants were catching fire there at the end and I was like, oh man, they just have to make the wild card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's all they need.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, there are strawberries on the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what's going on here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I would say also, 1997, they, they won the division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,

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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe one of those like other 2003 or 2004 teams, but you know, 2001 too, because of bonds just going nuts, but I didn't really feel too strongly in their chances in those other leagues, but yeah, those sort of a little bit outside of my top five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so 2012, why 2012 is lower than 14 in 10?

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[SPEAKER_01]: of the what we had been through as giants fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, so they win the title in 2010.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, oh man, they got all this young pitching, well, are we gonna be doing this again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then 2012 comes and you're like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to be doing it again like this seems really really good and you know they win the division I think they win 95 games something like that Matt Kane has a tremendous year and then the playoffs happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're kind of getting, having to come back in all these serieses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a little bit of like, I wanted that one world-beater championship where they're just like the best team in baseball and it's like unquestioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you're just, they're just gonna kill everybody because that's, they're just defending their even series title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they did have to, they did have to change it up a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: be the team that is supposed to win and was a little disappointing and then would have to come back and win those serieses in the playoffs culminating though in an ultimate wipe out of the tigers in the world series who were favored to beat them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was fulfilling in that way, but it was like some of those playoff serieses where you're like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: really have to get to a game five with the reds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they are they really down 3-1 to the Cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what is going on here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just because expectations were higher in 2012 and they had to kind of play the comeback team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's why that's the least favorite of my three world series winners there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually have them number four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's my notes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go, 2012.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Raleigh, enchilada, Raleigh, Zedaleigh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was, it was a, those were fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were fun, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were an absolute blast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember watching those games think in, especially the Cardinal series with, with, with Zito and the game that he pitched and, and, and the, the bunthed, yeah, I'd be just everything was,

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[SPEAKER_00]: everything was beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was just such heartwarming memories.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we had to deal with Melchika, Brera Halfway through the season as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He ends up being second in the team in war.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Having only played 113 games gets pinched for steroids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The MVP of the All Star Games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think like two weeks later he's pinched for roids and then they just had a rallying keep going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So 2012, I just special place in my heart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And believe it or not, this is a little bit of a spoiler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Believe it or not, I only have two world series teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, that the my one of my so the rally enchilada stuff, the rally Zito stuff, of course, that was a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was when.

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[SPEAKER_01]: social media was still pretty cool at that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The social media was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was gathering.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, uh, it was a place to hang out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Grand Kentucky talk during the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Talk sports.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a blast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, and I was that game one of that world series as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got to see Pablo go jack three times crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember you have video of one of them, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have video of one or two of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was on like an old school digital camera.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the video is on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was most sure you brought your toes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's not great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very pixelated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, my next one is the 2014 World Series winner there you go that team they snuck in

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[SPEAKER_01]: they were a professional baseball team, they knew that just needed a chance and that they could get on a run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's exactly what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wouldn't say that they were even one of the better, they're better giant teams that didn't even make the playoffs than that giant team, but they just got in and then they were able to just win games when they needed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's a

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a Bochi series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a scratch and claw brand and Crawford grand slam in the wild card game series like that kind of stuff for you're just like, you know, I think that's also the Travis Hishikawa home run as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you're it's just like Bochi's just like okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: have a limited amount of resources here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How can I scramble them together and put them in scenarios where they will actually do well?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he did it, you know, he was able to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, it's bum harder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's he was one of the best pictures that I'd ever seen in my entire life during that playoff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just so clutch didn't like nothing phased him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can probably go like one or two and then it's like was it pv or Hudson that started that game seven It was one of the two I think it was Hudson Hudson and games seven

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[SPEAKER_01]: And and and boat just like, yeah, man, um, you know, if you give me three, it'll be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you didn't need to give me anything and boom was just like all right, got it from here y'all like everyone in the dugout like you don't even have to warm up just sit down like we got this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: David miss David had that misplay in the outfield late in the game that could turn into something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't my stomach did not recover from that even though we got the final out of the world series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My stomach did not recover from that for a good hour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think after that happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have again, this is social media at its best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get the tweet from Alex Pavlovitch that the game is over a good 15 seconds before it happens on television.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm with my kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think only one of my kids was with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And both of my parents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sitting with this news for a whole 15 seconds for Pablo catches that up and falls to his back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I told Alex this, on air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, yeah, everyone told

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that and Pablo just said at the at the at the walk of fame while the fame Ceremony a couple weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was his greatest memory not hitting three home runs in game one of the 2012 World Series But 2014 catching the final out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was his favorite baseball memory

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a great one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been at the center of some really, really good one for shows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a hell of a team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, that that team was known more for game seven of the world series than anything else they did that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was that's why they didn't that 2014 team did not make my list is only because it wasn't as memorable from start to finish

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what is your number three?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number three, 1993.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What a summer that was, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What a fantastic summer, horrible ending.

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[SPEAKER_00]: fantastic summer, the last season of Will Clark as a San Francisco giant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Barry Bonds, Matt Williams, and Robbie Thompson all having MVP type seasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Robbie Thompson, 15th in MVP voting that year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He started off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: tremendously makes the all-purpose game fire and then I think he got like drilled in the head with a fast ball by like was it Mark Wollers or somebody and he just was not the same for the rest of that season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think still had a 6.3 war.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, a gold glove silver slugger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just outstanding season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody was on fire that year offensively pitching wise and I said at the beginning of the year, I remember telling somebody because I was at little league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, um, I was an Empire little league and I remember the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, because I'd been around that little league since I was a kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I remember the managers coming up to me and they're like, hey, your giants are looking good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, if they could just hold on to the pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the pitching could just hold out all season long, this is a world series championship team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But as we know, it did not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bill Swift and John Burke, they couldn't hold on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't, they couldn't be the guys all year long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but uh... that pitching staff swift berked black Wilson we won't talk about how it ended we'll just talk we'll talk about the good times we'll talk about the bench

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave Martinez, Todd Benzinger, Mark Karyon, Mike Benjamin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys were magic too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a really good bench because those guys are pre-prose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, Martinez started a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Benzinger started a little bit, but they were so much better as Bench pieces and guys that you could trust in moments when, you know, your vet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: your other vet needed to rest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is also my number three team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mentioned that the 2002 team was just, you know, it's just too hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It hurts too much to think about that team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two of the other teams that hurt too much are on this list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: It took the pain from those two teams to get me to the 2002 and just be like, nope, I can't do it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was one of those because the Giants lose the last game of the season to the Cruddy Dodgers and they, if they had won, I think they, they, they force a one-game playoff against the Braves for the division because it was the year before the wild cards, you actually had to win your division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you haven't been to the movies all that much lately, but if you go to an AMC theater, they have this Nicole Kidman commercial for AMC before every single AMC showing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've seen this thing probably a hundred times now and her last line is heartbreak feels good

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm never watching baseball in a place like this because heartbreak was still hurt in a place like this But that's what that team was that 93 team it was just like

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were so good all season long, and just to come up so soft in that last game, Solomon Torres, the young kid, just so much responsibility on his shoulders, Barry Bonds had an out of body experience season, his first season with the giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just remember, it was almost like every time I turn on a game in the first inning he had a home run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, how is he happening?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was at opening day in San Francisco in 1993.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The team was just saved too, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that was kind of a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The team was just saved from going to Tampa Bay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that was huge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you had the new bleachers, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The new metal bleachers in left field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was up in left field second deck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know how you remember how far?

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[SPEAKER_00]: left field center field second deck in the panel stick is a football state.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might as well have been at Oracle at that point watching the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was so far out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I remember it was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First time and only time I've ever seen the great full-dead perform live because our Garcia and Bob Weir and one of the other guys sang the National Anthem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Barry bonds, it's at three run jack and does the spin and I'm like, what is go, this guy is going to be fantastic for us and goes on to hit 46 home runs, but yeah, that was, uh, kind of what a fun season that was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think, uh, and they all start game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think at the all start game is at Camden Yards and he doesn't go deep, but he hits like a triple and like two singles and four A-B's or something like that and just like, this is the year Barry, it's good not get to that next level and it's, you know, there were there were some people going, I got he just doesn't have it he's he's, you know, he can't be on as if the team won over a hundred games exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And nowadays that team would be in the playoffs every single year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what is your number two?

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[SPEAKER_00]: My number two, I wrestled with this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't be shocked, but my number two is 2010.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A first world series championship giants will always be yeah yeah and so close to my number one, but my number one is different okay and and but but number two 2010 giants that will be a season I will always remember from

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[SPEAKER_00]: game one to the very end, and the fight with the pod rays, the winning the West and the final game of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The playoff battles, Cody Ross coming up huge in Philly, does everything that that team did will always be in my heart as a matter of fact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: compared to the background, but I just picked this up as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The ADVD pack, it's got all of the world's series games, but the main reason I got it was because you get the giant radio broadcast with it and when the crew co announces retirement, I thought I finally got to pick this up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we found it like 20 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to start spinning these pretty soon just because I think I'd rather watch these than some of the current 20, 20, 26 giant games or put this on instead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that team will always be top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not number one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But very close to number you could you could put this as a tie with number one with my number one team, but the 2010 giants it's just you can't put in the words what that meant for giants fans, especially us, our generation and our 50s now we, you know, persevered through all the weird years and and like you said earlier to the heartbreak of 2002.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For me, it was 2002, but I think it was more so gain seven against the Cardinals in 1987.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That one got me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was 14 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It got me, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My dad got, I think my dad got mad at me because of how sad I was in that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, he was like, he was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: This game is not even close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even do anything like they got smoked in this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But did you tell your dad we were up three games to two?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just had a weight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What about game six?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that this is my end of the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we would have beaten the twins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I stand by that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We would have beaten the twins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Jeffrey Leonard's going one flap down like seven times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had this as number one, and it's, I think it's because, um, well, it's, it was really the beginning of the three, and you had, Tim Lensikom still as Tim Lenskom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't have a great year that year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He actually had a pretty inconsistent year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He would come back in 2011 and actually have a really strong year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the playoffs, he was linsicum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you were talking about that season and having those DVDs, I bought game one against the Braves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanna say he struck out 14.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's just throwing that's like, that's blitters and he's got in the dirt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just throwing splitters in the dirt and he's brave just swinging at all of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And,

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[SPEAKER_01]: like that version of lincecum and then closing them out, closing out the rangers in game five, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And seeing him being at the center of it all and winning the world series MVP and like that was just like man, that's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: of all the people to finally bring a world series to the giant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's this like, you know, skinny, five, nine dude with long hair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's who's who, you know, the fans were just saying, let Timmy smoke like that was the calling, you know, that was what they would scream in yell and it was just like the most unassuming superstar, I think of my sports lifetime, was Tim lensicum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the way that his career kind of ended too, just makes that story of 2010, even sweeter for me, because we wanted him to be the greatest picture of all time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we wanted him, but we knew that his body was not holding up for him in the way that he wanted to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, that season, you know, Brian Wilson, hilarious, the machine, know that stuff, hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, bus, bus deposey, bus deposey gets called up on my birthday that year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm I'm touching down in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to UFC fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I get the Twitter notification on my phone, bus deposey called up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As I go, here we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: and Buster had a great season as a rookie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, all of that stuff is awesome, and, you know, I was at, I was at many games that season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I went to, no, I did go to a playoff game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I went to one of the Philadelphia games because,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Barry throughout the first pitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Barry and Willie may have thrown out the first pitch together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I'm remembering that correctly, where I worked at the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in 2008, I worked right across the street from Oracle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had to park in the parking garage and then for for night games, I had to leave because I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to move your car because they're actually other, we're going to be able to make double the money today on our parking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in by the time of 2010 we had moved a little bit, but my colleagues, they were like, do you want to go?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we, you know, we're a very small company still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were maybe like 15 of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we go over to the CEO and the, the, the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to go to this ball game, and they're like, yeah, go for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know that you guys are going to work throughout the night anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you might as well go and, you know, we went and it was a blast and they won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, that is really, that's really good memory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, what is your number one not now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like wondering now you're wondering.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, and this is probably because I'm just a touchholder than you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My number one team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: will always be the 1986 San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so that was that they would have probably been six or seven for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they were they were my number one and again, I think it's because of our age difference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And and I was 13 that summer I was 12 turning 13 in the middle of the summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd been following the Giants for a while, you know, my grandparents had season tickets so I'd gone to some games and started in probably 79, 88, 181, 82 went to all those years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this was the first season where I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what a team looks like when they win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were fighting for first place, midway through the sea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they even took over first place at one point, midway through the season from the Astros.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kept battle and kept battling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a couple of rookies of the year, a couple of guys named Will Clark and Robbie Thompson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If not for them, we're not here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're not here doing this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what it's named after.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I kind of had to go with this team as number one, because anytime I think of the giants

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I started becoming that fan, that guy that was all over this team, it was 1986.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They still had chilly Davis and Dan Gladden left over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those were my guys from when I was younger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I was an outfielder, so I loved watching those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The great Chris Brown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was all starting to be the last out in the all star game that you're grounded into a double play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they hit three 17 that season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Couldn't stay healthy But I think I think I think there was like runners on first or set first and second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah in that game and my dad looks at me and he goes

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's in a grounded to double play, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, no, this guy's a doubles machine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next pitch, ground ball to shore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, oh, man, or ground ball to third, whatever, I was like, yeah, man, can't get all star pitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could hit doubles against the Atlanta Brains of me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the, you know, that's why I wore number six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was because I got to see Robbie Thompson play second baseman here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh my gosh, this is how you do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Candy Maldonato.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why I mean, all these guys, we had Melvin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had Bob Melvin, Bob Brenley, two guys that go on to manage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All dreading on the bench, Joel Youngblood, Randy Kutcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Randy Kutcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Harry Spillman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, these are, you know, Dan Driesen of the end of the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Crookos 20 gamer, which we talked about as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Crookos 20 gamers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And anytime I look back at my fandom and I think where did it start?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It truly, even though I was going to games and I felt the heartbreak of 1985 and the hundred losses and disaster, a master plane shortstop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, nothing compares to 1986 when you've got your eBay and Clark and Thompson coming up and you still have Hackman on the team and you've got Cruko that any time I look back I go that was the team that was where it started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Clark Homering off a Nolan Ryan in the very first games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I did, I'm sure you watched that live, because I was, I was in the living room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I remember specifically watching that and going, oh, this is the guy everybody's talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my number two was 87 for many of the same reasons why of what you just talked about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, that that that 86 team is the reason why the 87 team was so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They made a couple of moves on fortune, Chris Brown got traded, but we brought in Kevin Mitchell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And and they made some really strong moves to get some pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dave Dr. Vacky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And uh, Don Robinson and so they were able to like they said, Hey, here's the blueprint 86.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to add some vets these this young nucleus and we're going to be able to win some ball games 88.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they had a really good team to 89.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We could have put that up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think if.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the world series ends little differently, if they may be if they win one game, I probably have a little bit of more love for that team in my heart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just the fact that they went down to those, you know, the like dogs to the A's is still bothers me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that that 89 team would have been in my top 10 too, because Clark and virtual were like rock stars that year because of how well they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they were like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great memories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish we could talk about these old teams for the rest of the season, but we cannot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think we can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we got a really good show out of the giants going one in five against the guardians and the rest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know what, you and I could get on here and talk any baseball any time and make it fun and interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yep, I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, who knows, maybe maybe the postseason will be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: entertaining enough where we don't really have a team, but it's going to be everybody against the Dodgers is what we're going to be rooting for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that's an exact gimmick for the every postseason show is the bitter giant show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just rooting against the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe Ryan Walker dazzles us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we come back and we praise Ryan Walker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see Ryan Walker face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, not again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just give up another home run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe I don't want to see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just I want to see the confidence on the mound.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I then with Ryan Walker on the mound, that face of just unconfident is not fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Ryan Walker, his face is the action of someone chewing off all their fingernails.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what his face looks like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 100%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will be back next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for Brad, I'm WCU and we see you piece out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peace.