SF Chronicle's Harrison Rich on Not Trading for Kelsey Plum, Juste Jocyte & Gabby Williams | Podhalla

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[SPEAKER_01]: from the San Francisco Chronicle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Harrison Rich, what is going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How are you today?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks for having me on guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were having conversations about if the values we're going to do anything at the trade deadline, I think you me and Brian decided like more likely than not, they weren't going to do anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, the Kelsey Plum thing was out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it was heavily reported that, you know, they were in the conversations, I guess we can say, and they decided or

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Mercury decided that she was not coming to the Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know exactly all of the things that happened, but she goes from the sparks to the Mercury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she kicked off her stay in the Mercury very nicely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got a nice W, but the Valkyries stayed pat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And part of staying pat in all of the things that I've read from Natalie is just about culture like we have a squad that really we really love we love the culture we love everything about it we're kind of you know all in with all of our our players and so what has has been the fallout of that do you think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, they've played two games since, uh, the trade deadline and they won both games against the tempo, though, you know, there was some back and forth there going on, you've been to practices and such like what is the, what is the, how are things at practice, what's the feeling like all of that stuff post trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I mean, Natalie has been very consistent, you know, in her message, you know, as the trade deadline neared in a Harrison can confirm this right, she made it a point to consistently reiterate, you know, the chemistry, the connectivity, you know, that's kind of become the mantra of the 2026 Valkyries, you know, which one I guess you could say would lead you to believe that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, at least for Natalie, she was more inclined to keep this team together as opposed to, you know, kind of changing things up, you know, mid season and really, probably like almost what a third of the way or two thirds of the way through the regular season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So.

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[SPEAKER_03]: fully understandable from the players' perspectives had an opportunity to catch up with a few of them prior to yesterday's game had an extensive conversation with KT.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't explicitly say to her like, hey, you know, your name has been in trade rumors a lot, but I just kind of asked her about like, hey, like, you know, what

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[SPEAKER_03]: is the pulse of the locker room now, but also throughout the days leading up to the trade deadline given that yes, it was very public as you said.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Kendra Andrews, if ESPN reported, the values were exploring their options specifically with Kelsey Plum and he coasts a bell

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, I don't think, you know, they're, they're not completely, like, unaware.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, for like, you're like, you're like, KT, you know, and, and some of them, well, actually, that's kind of a lie, but several of them are, they, they try to stay away from social media, but they're aware, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think overall, they did a very good job of tuning.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that noise out, you know, at least for what we saw at practice and pregame preparations, they were very much locked in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And frankly, you know, we kind of touched upon it last week, but the last Friday's practice where the vibe was weird and it had very little to do about the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was just, again, I think they were really disgusted with the way they had played.

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[SPEAKER_03]: against Phoenix, you know, and they really want to get back in the win column and try to write the ship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, yeah, I mean, that's, that's been the overall vibe and Harrison wrote a piece about you stay and how she was in some of those talks and how she said, you know, I, I read Twitter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I can see all of the, you know, the conversation going on, but I thought what came out of that for me was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, for 20 years old, she has such a pro, she's been doing this for so long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She gets it, she understands and dealing with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure wasn't very easy, but for someone who's been playing professional basketball since she was a teenager, it seemed to be something that she dealt with fairly well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was your, was it, was that the right Reed Harrison?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For a 20 year old, like you mentioned, I think you stay as really self-aware.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she knows where this team is at right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they have a second best record in the league, tie with the aces, and she was late to join this team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She missed training camp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, she's younger than pretty much every rookie from this year's class and last year's class in terms of the college players that were drafted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she knows like she's on a pretty veteran heavy team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're doing really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a good thing going right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they weren't just going to throw her into the rotation at any point unless an injury occurred to a guard in front of her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the interesting part to me is obviously you touched on the the trade rumors and you know like they're they're probably

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[SPEAKER_00]: was a deal out there involving you today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They probably got fairly close to moving her, but that's just kind of the business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you stay knows that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now that she's still here, like she just kind of has to deal with that reality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she said to me, like you mentioned, she has Twitter, she's online.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard to avoid it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, even if you want to turn it off, you really can't because it's on every platform, not just Twitter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if someone sees something, they're going to text you about it, and so you can't avoid it even if you take Tudor off of your phone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's just kind of what the situation is right now, like there's really nothing that's going to change for you today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she was open and honest with me about the fact that this has not been an easy season for her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's used to playing a lot of basketball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, she started professionally at 13 years old, like you mentioned,

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[SPEAKER_00]: just has a ton of minutes under her belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is this is a new thing for her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not used to write in the bench.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, she talked about the support that she's gotten from from her team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She specifically shouted out tip haze as someone who's been a really good vet presence for her just kind of consoling her talking to her whenever she's feeling down or whatever the case may be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She also shouted out

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[SPEAKER_00]: the state-ready group, the other four players outside of the Valks rotation, yeah, Canaraa, you've written an extensive leave about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bailey, those are the people she's been leaning on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I also should mention, I asked Natalie Necase before the game yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to get her thoughts on it because none of us have asked her about you stay in a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and wanted to just get to comment from her after you say spoke to me and I thought she gave an interesting response.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Her initial, the first thing she said when I asked about how they're kind of helping to support her through this time, she said we hang out a lot together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that's that's a talking point that she's gone to a lot and it's clearly true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this

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[SPEAKER_00]: great chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They seem to all like each other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was an interesting response.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I assume she was talking about the team as a whole, not just her and you say hanging out as a pair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess that's how they're helping, you know, kind of keep her morale afloat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She also mentioned that during practice, she's really impressed her, just running with the stay ready group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She mentioned like, I don't remember the specific drill that she was talking about, but she kind of threw out their tester in a live rep and she executed that rep perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it seems like her development is coming along well, but yeah, like I mentioned, there's

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[SPEAKER_02]: There wasn't a question about yeah go for kind of those comments that that Natalie made and I guess I was wondering like to the both of you You know how do those comments do those comments sound different than than the ones that she's given in the past in regard to you stay and

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if they were different, do you think that leads to maybe a potential Opportunity to to play any time soon, you know, I know like I'm trying to like out of the stay ready group that can Rodo wrote about I remember, you know, not even all getting like spot minutes against the Toronto Tempo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When they were playing in Toronto and I forget if that was a game or Gabby wasn't playing or not, but like is there any opportunity for for you stay to you know get into this Ross get into this rotation, whether it be you know once like like the Nadia minutes or you know a more consistent piece or is she you know kind of still blocked by a few some of the people at her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're muted, Colorado, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said this on the last episode, but, you know, Gabby, John, and Chetchi, they'll be leaving like for the World Cup, well before the World Cup starts, right, because they got to meet up with their respective national teams.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, when we came back from all start break, you know, one of the first things Natalie did say was again,

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[SPEAKER_03]: like this is where like the deep bench and specifically the stay ready group.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is where they're going to have to like you know play a factor.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In terms of cracking the main rotation again as Harrison said it would have to be because of like injuries, you know, to one maybe even two

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then yes, like they'll probably get like, you know, some decent run in like those three maybe four games prior to the feeba break and we'll probably talk about it more, but you know for.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Polly multiple reasons, you know, like for example, like Gabby Williams and her like unofficial minutes restriction lately.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It does align with what Natalie said in the sense that she wants to proactively manage the main rotation players minutes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So again, with that said, again, there's that little opportunity for you stay and I guess to a lesser extent the rest of the stay ready group to kind of pick up some some spot minutes here and there, but I really struggled to see a path where you stay or any of them really get like consistent playing time for their main to the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess kind of staying on I guess I got one or one where you stay questioned, but you know Harrison you mentioned that she did not report to training camp and I wonder you know how much that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, leads into her kind of getting buried a little at the end of the bench and, you know, not going to camp.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know, you know, I think I'll stop my head.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I remember you're one, like, Janelle missed camp, but, you know, she kind of got put in right away against the watching to mystics is like a starter in game two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, you say missed camp because she had a commitment to Gerona.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, they were in, I forget if it was like playoffs or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, go join Portland early, even on use day zone team, Chloe Bibi left early to go try to get a spot and I wonder I guess in the future I know that she's committed to the league is I'm forgetting the league off the top of my head project be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that, you know, maybe that she is like, I want to make sure I report on time this time or do you think she's kind of just like, you know, I committed to Corona and I was going to see it through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's an interesting question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't directly ask you about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think going back to training camp, like you mentioned, just kind of reading the team leaves a little bit, I really do think that played a direct role in the situation right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Caitlyn Chen obviously had a really good training camp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was there the whole time, made a super good impression on Natalie, and that's why,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Partly why she's in the rotation now obviously she's been playing really well and you stay

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[SPEAKER_00]: coming in, this is her second year, obviously, since I'm drafted, but first year in the league, that really didn't help her case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that she was not there for the Valkyrie's coaching staff to see on a daily basis during training camp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think they were going to just throw her into the fire without her getting those live reps through training camp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think that it has definitely played a big role in where we're at right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's your point about project B and it shall end up reporting to the doctor is earlier in the future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When she has those those obligations, it'll be interesting to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't even know like the dates on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure Corona can rather know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But if they even know that at all, I'll all come out and already say this because this I feel confident in saying, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_03]: The 2027 Euro basket right takes place from June 16 to June 27 right and it's hosted by four countries Belgium Finland Sweden and Lithuania.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So if you think that you stay is not going to prioritize Lithuania at the national team given that she's one of the host countries, you're crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm going to come out already say she's probably going to miss training camp again, you know, so I don't know if that's a rabbit hole you want to like, you know, go down in like already, but

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[SPEAKER_03]: If this is the standard or the criteria with which she is held to,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then I think the front office and the coaching staff, they should be expecting this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And again, plan accordingly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not going to suggest what you stay will or will not do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like how that will affect her, you know, what she chooses to do next season, where the guard's to playing in the WNBA, but I would be shocked if she does not prioritize.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, given that they are the host country, they will be competing, they get like their auto entry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so yeah, yeah, you know, but I mean, I think the biggest takeaway again, like at least reading Harrison's piece and from also my conversations these days is as, you know, GG said like the level of professionalism that she's handled herself with.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And even last night, kind of like watching on like the jumbo tron, you know, anytime like, you know, the balcony's going to big run or like when

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just look at how enthusiastic she is on the bench.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's pretty fired up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, either like she's genuinely like again, just being a team player or she's a fantastic actress could be combination of both, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But again, I don't think at any point, you could really identify a time where she has been a distraction for this team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I do think that is commendable.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I never really thought about it until now until Brian brought it up, but I mean, like, John didn't get any training camp as Ricky and literally the first day she stepped on to the court as a balcony.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She basically became like the number one scoring options.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, I look at the game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was a lecture like

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the thing about it is you stay like none of this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She didn't blind side the coaching staff for fun office.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is all known.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like this is the timeline right with which she's playing in your league.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is the timeline for Eurobasket.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like I don't know like to kind of be held to kind of hold that against her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to say it's unfair but it's just like

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I would hope that moving forward, the front office, the coaching staff and you stay, they're all aligned because I think that's where it gets confusing the season, especially for her because it's like, okay, if you're saying all these reasons of why,

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[SPEAKER_03]: you don't feel like I'm ready to be a part of the main rotation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What was the urgency to get her back to get her state side?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then if this was essentially a glorified red shirt ear,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Many, you know, like you could just take in time and have it in that context.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But now, you know, again, the nature of the discussion is within like, you know, is it something you're not doing?

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[SPEAKER_03]: As opposed to it, it couldn't be simply like, yeah, we just want to take, you know, our time, patient approach in terms of development.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it'll be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But again, those factors are going to come up again, next year with regards to Eurobasket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: one more thing from Harrison's piece on you stay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a part and I want to make sure I interpreted this correctly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe she feels like they want her to show a little bit more intensity outwardly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, seeing her, she looks like she's a little bit of a little bit more of like a silent assassin type maybe not as demonstrative on the court as some of the other players was that was I reading that correctly they like she feels like she needs to display a little bit more maybe emotion or something to her coaches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting because not only has said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the main things she wants to see out of you stay is, they're trying to turn her into a ball handler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I asked you to say about that, and she was,

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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty confident in the fact that she's a good ball handler, like right now, she said she's done that a lot already in her career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that she said she wants to improve on is being more vocal, having more intensity that is a word she uses multiple times, more intensity on the court.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think you don't necessarily need to be the most rarerop person to be on the balconies, like there are some quieter personalities in this rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, as the point guard, especially I think you do need to have a certain level of presence, vocal presence on the court.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, obviously Caitlyn Chen is not loud, like, you don't see her screaming or pounding the floor or whatever on defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she's not that type of player either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think she channels it in a way where you can tell, like, this really means a lot to her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, every possession is important to Caitlyn Chen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that's a little bit more in the vein of what you

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[SPEAKER_00]: needs to improve her focus, possession to possession, really learn how to value the defensive side of the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's another thing she mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it just comes with time, like again, she's she's still very young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know Valker's fans want to see her out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're getting a little impatient, but you know, they got a good thing going and you

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, okay, guys, you need to help us in by us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Valkyrie's fans, can you come around and we'll start with you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is re-conditioning as it pertains to on the injury report?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because for two games in a row, Gabby Williams coming out of the all star game has had re-conditioning and I think even questionable, those she's played both games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think all the minutes limitations, can you explain to people who are thinking,

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was fine going out of the ulcer break, fine going into the ulcer break, fine playing the ulcer game and then coming out of the ulcer break, ulcer game, I'm sorry, we have this reconditioning label for her injury on the injury report.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you know, I have kind of taken point in the the beatwriters room of kind of making this public and keeping this, you know, um, in front of fans per view, um, I know some bedding site got a hold of my tweets.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, they quote tweeted me like this is relevant.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, I don't know, it's right for that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, again, I did ask Natalie about that yesterday, you know, she has said that she doesn't like, Gabby doesn't really have a minute restriction, but clearly, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, as you said, right, the two games she's played since the All-Star Break, she's played less than 20 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When she re-entered in the fourth quarter, she had played like only 14 minutes at that point, you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's, as you said, like, it's seem like she's fine, seem like she's healthy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I try to, again, put the pieces together, connect dots that may or may not be there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, but again, like she was very, achieving Natalie was very, you know, specific.

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[SPEAKER_03]: when the team came back from all starbreak that again right she wanted to be extremely mindful very proactive in managing her rotation players minutes now again when it comes to Gabby right from the onset of training camp.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She had been very candid about that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She was very well aware that like in her time in Seattle, she would often burn out latent games and especially in the back end of the season where she was just completely ineffective.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so part of the appeal for Gabby to come to Golden State was that the training staff really mapped out like

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[SPEAKER_03]: a plan for her to again kind of manage her minutes, have some, you know, kind of calculated and opportunistic rest periods so that she would be as fresh as possible for the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now you factor in the world cup, all of those things are going in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I can understand with Gabby, but the ambiguity, though, is how they're all being very caddy about

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[SPEAKER_03]: What exactly is this?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if this is just like, I don't know, like the WMBA's version of load management, okay, cool, but then when Bairn's group's Christian Babcock when he kind of pressed her about that because she kind of tried to

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[SPEAKER_03]: gloss over it right i think Jane was the one who asked about the reconditioning and she goes oh well there's there's a long list of things that go into reconditioning but yeah it would be more and you don't want to hear it and then christian goes i want to hear it you know and it was i wouldn't say like word solid but like it's just a number of random things that i'm not sure how this really applies to gabby i don't know she's saying like a game like the way you move okay i can understand that um

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the way that you're you're resting, um, the way you look in between reps like I don't know like it's just it then makes you believe that there is something wrong with her where it it just seemed like okay you just want to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: management, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The way they've gone about, you know, kind of characterizing this and then just being very ambiguous with her day to day status, and just kind of makes it a little bit more curious and notable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does the WMBA have the same policies the NBA as far as having to report injuries for the gambling reasons, I guess, is kind of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I know that that is why the teams have to get out in front of it in football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's even worse because these guys are always banged up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But is there the same rules for the WMBA where you really, you have to be honest about what the injury is for those reasons?

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[SPEAKER_03]: There is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In the WNBA's website, actually updates every 15 minutes about that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I'm not saying that the team is responsible for giving up, update every 15 minutes, but he does update quite regularly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, but it's, it's just, again, like she looked good and I asked Natalie about it, but it's always in that, like, yeah, you know, given that she's reconditioning, she looked great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so I'm, again, I don't really know what that means, but it's just obviously worth monitoring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, let's talk about the the last two games here, the playing the tempo, we've seen a few back to backs this year and I feel like the Valks have actually done pretty well in this scenario where they have to play somebody twice in a row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the tempo were game and in a few instances in both games actually like even yesterday's game they actually jumped out into a 13 point lead and in Harrison's article from today or last night or today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think you asked Natalie about what the message was at halftime and she said a lot of cuss words because they weren't playing their best.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not happening right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not happening for four quarters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess that that was kind of what I have picked up is almost from quarter to quarter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They seemed like a completely different team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I understand how hard it is to play your best through every single minute of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yesterday was a little drastic in the first half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought where it was like, oh, this team is looking great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden it's like, oh my gosh, they can't score and they're giving up buckets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Harrison the consistently see thing with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've been hearing it all year from Natalie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She she's talked about effort for four quarters in so many different ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like do you have finger on the pulse as to things that that you might be seeing as to why sometimes they can be so jekyll and hide?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, it's very strange to me, just, I know they, their offense is obviously very predicated on on three pointers and so naturally you're going to be volatile when a lot of her offense is not jack and threes, but you know, they're taking a lot of threes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like yesterday in the second quarter, or in the first, I should say, they started off their first four made shots for three, as I believe, they ended up having five total in the first quarter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the second quarter comes along.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm pretty sure they had four points like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: five or six minutes into the period, and they just could not do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember not to not to pick on Kaelan Cham, but she had a couple of drives where the tempo just completely like took away what she was trying to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, they just have these stretches where the offense it just doesn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really have an answer to be honest with you, like for why that is the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously when they have Veronica and Gabby out there at the same time, things nationally look better, Janelle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, against, in all three games against the tempo, she was awesome, I think she hours like 24 points in those three games, and she, she was their best player yesterday, her and KT, but yeah, it's, it's kind of like, they just, they need one player every game to have their moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've had eight different leading scorers in a game this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned that in my weekly yesterday, which if it's not, mostly, it's got to be the least top two, top three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that is something that works in their favor, just how balanced they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, if they want to have a deep run in the playoffs, they're going to have to figure out these scoring drops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the half court against the links or the ACEs, you're not going to be able to survive those types of stretches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they got some time to work out the kink still, but they definitely have some some questions to answer at the offense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, do you guys think that, you know, not only has been saying they're not at full form, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like there's still opportunity to get better and, you know, to echo your point Harrison, you go on like ESPN.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you look at the Valkyries schedule.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have a column called High Point, so basically who scored the most every game for the Valkyries and it's so different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know at each different game and and that's what we're seeing right it does feel like one player kind of has to have their moment For it to work and it feels like that's not a recipe for success, but it feels like because of how good the defenses is the kind of how you know that you get away with stuff like that and

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess, you know, that's kind of why the plum trade or a trade to get a more reliable offensive score was maybe in the conversation because, yeah, like what happens when the offense goes stale and, you know, you need to make something happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, I think that the tempo is like one of the better teams for that to happen against because I just think that, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the offense goes stale because of that team's defense, like then you have to, you know, like, I just think against teams that can have a similar defense to their own, it's just harder to get out of that, but the tempo's defense isn't as good and they're more of an offensive reliant team, but I guess when it comes to the playoffs, who do you guys think is like maybe more of an ideal matchup, because, you know, it kind of seems like a good potentially be say at the fever or the mystic,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, two very different teams, one team, very good defense, the other team, you know, way, way better offensive team, uh, or, you know, the liberty or like, who is it, who isn't matchup that you think the values would?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, of course, you know, the values how they present themselves, like we'll take anyone will give us anyone in the first round and, you know, we'll go at them, but who do you think is more of a, uh, a friendlier first round matchup?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, every team has like, you know, their strengths and their weaknesses when it comes to strengths.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It'll be interesting to see if like the eight teams that make the playoffs are at full strength, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like obviously, you kind of wanna say the Atlanta dream, but then we didn't really face them with, with rejoins, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So obviously, that's a huge dynamic, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I guess it's either for me, I'd say either at Lanta, Indiana, or Washington, not that I overlook any of them, especially Washington, but like the contrasting styles of the mystics

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[SPEAKER_03]: I said in Johnson one and say it, but like he did say right like it's just the way that the values play on both ends, it completely forces the mystics to do like to step out of their comfort zone.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean like I feel like that's a good matchup, but then again, you know, best of three could go either way, you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, yeah, I think those are the three, I mean as much as I know that the

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[SPEAKER_03]: the balconies, you know, controlled their games against the liberty.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, Brianna Stewart, it's still Brianna Stewart still scares you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she's she's only having a fantastic season, but I mean, she's still at like the peak of her powers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, Sabrina is just getting increasingly healthier.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so it's not even just like a reputation avoiding them like you start to see the flashes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know Chris de Marcos taking a lot of heat this season about not being able to kind of identify the right rotations and such.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To bring in Steve Kurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Hillary Clinton.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but yeah, I'd say probably either Indiana or Atlanta and Indiana obviously like as explosive as they can be offensively you see how they're conceding career nights to their opponents almost every game right so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you get the home court advantage, I think Indiana is a good matchup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On the other side, if you don't get the home court advantage, it might be a little tougher just because of that crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the mystics one though, because I think people would say, oh man, the mystics are a tough matchup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what you have to realize is the mystics are kind of in a similar spot as the

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that didn't just have no experience in how intense playoff basketball is, the Valkyries got a nice little introduction to playoff basketball last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they would come into this this season, you know, understanding of what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I think that would be good for them against a team like the mystics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do like the fever one, because I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: the valks get home court advantage against the fever, they can really take it to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And any of some of that is how frustrated the fever get offensively, which kind of dictates some of the other things that happen in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But okay, Harrison, I'll let you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Brian wanted your thoughts, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would I would agree with Canarao.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the dreamer probably the number one on my list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they just had their number in the regular season on the mystics like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know they they lost that second matchup when they had the back to back a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a weird game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was, that was the game where they, I believe, you know, just completely collapsed in the last like four minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They allowed like 13 unanswered points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was, that was a strange one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do agree with your point, GG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like their experience or lack of experience is not going to help them in a playoff series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Valkyries can definitely exploit that, especially if they have home court and they're able to, you know, get two games in, in Baja, like, I think they could, they could handle them pretty easily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they would be fine if they had home court similarly to the mystics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but, you know, Caitlyn Clark, she might, she might want to get on her little revenge arc at chase.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you never know that that could be dangerous.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know it's sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got, I, I feel like I keep jumping around here, but things were like popping in my mind and I, which is popped in my mind was, was Caitlyn Chen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Someone who, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: two weeks ago a week ago was like holy crap like we might have you know this incredible score on the bench that just feels like no one can contain her and she could beat anyone off the dribble and get to the basket not to say she's played badly but you know there was a felt like there were I didn't even look at the stats

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[SPEAKER_02]: like watching, there were a lot of turnovers in that Toronto game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, as she was driving to you mentioned at Harrison, as she was driving to the rim, I felt like there were some doubles that were sent to her to, you know, try to force her to make a bad pass out of, you know, a bad jump pass out of the double team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it worked a couple times or one time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Would you have to think or by the way, she led the team for turnovers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For Saudi, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: teams are, you know, adjusting to her given that she's probably a name on the scouting report now like she's someone who again can literally take almost anyone off the dribble and we've said it on this podcast multiple times like what does it look like when you give a couple steps and you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome the three-point shot a little bit and instead of, you know, being uptight and that gives you, you know, more opportunity to get beat off the dribble, but what have you guys kind of seen in regard to kind of countering Caitlyn Chen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry, I should direct it to someone I should go for a rattle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an interesting question, like obviously like you mentioned Brian, her super power is getting downhill, playing off two feet around the rim, and like page backers said back, what was that two months ago, she is a really good lay a package, I think the word she used was special or the best she's seen one of those, but yeah, I mean it seems like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: defenses might be starting to figure out that's what she is trying to do or trying to get to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean last night the tempo were just kind of shading their big over into her driving lane and yeah they were fortunate to pick up her dribble and she I remember one play vividly where she kind of panicked I guess and tried to make a pass to the corner and there were three defenders right in her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: breathing space and she turns it over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, I mean, in a playoff series, like that could be that could end up being an issue for her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think the lineups were she runs with Veronica.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those entice me because it allows you to have two ball handlers on the floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're both good enough defensively to survive for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I think that's an interesting idea to maybe look at a little bit more Caitlin as the sole ball handler in second units.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's, it's had mixed results, but yeah, I can rather curious to get your thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I don't think there's, oh, excuse me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think there's any one reason why Caitlin has had like these up and down performances.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that there's a couple of things I've noticed these last couple of games last night, again, even though like Natalie likes to say like, you know, VB and Caitlyn, those are her point guards, right, and like, she trust them both to run, you know, whatever lineups out there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like they do run somewhat different base sets

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[SPEAKER_03]: for each of them, you know, and it kind of takes advantage of like their strengths.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And with Kaylin, as Herron said, Harrison was saying, yeah, she loves to get downhill.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But when she's out there, especially with that lineup, like when they start the second quarter, where it's like Kaylin, tip,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Kyla, Genel, and L.A.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They love to use a lot of off-ball screens to try to like shift the defense to one side, that way they can get Caitlyn that one on one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then they also know that when there is a ball screen, Caitlyn likes to reject the ball screen, right, and try to like cut the opposite way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yesterday, I did notice that like Isabel Harrison was just not falling for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like, you know, if there was the off ball screen, she just completely helped off, you know, or um, if there was the ball screen, um, they didn't stay with it, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: They, they would like sag off and like meet Caitlin, you know, um, before she could, um, you know, get to the cup and that's why you saw her like get caught me like midair and everything like that have like a bad turn over.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Caitlin herself, but also the team, you know, I think they need to be a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, a little bit more, a particular in terms of like the timing and the angles of those screens, especially when it involves jaw, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because you know, like, she'll be like the ultimate like bailout option.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so, you know, they really need to position the two of them together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But other than that, I mean, like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's kind of where, like I was saying, like, while, like, Caitlyn's kind of second year leap has been really exciting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm not trying to say that, like, it's, you know, it's been full school or anything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, it's just, these are the types of things where she still needs to continue working through, where her impact is less match-up dependent, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where, like, she can kind of have, maybe not the same, like, numbers, but the same kind of

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[SPEAKER_03]: for the team, regardless of who the opponent is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's something interesting to monitor moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And again, I think that's also why these last couple of games, you kind of see a little tick in tips, tips performance, you know, because again, like that lineup,

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[SPEAKER_03]: is really interesting when you have like the two slashing options and neither them are like I mean I know they're both shooting the three fairly well this year, but like neither them are really like

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[SPEAKER_03]: three point threat, like at least defenses don't defend them that way, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of interesting how like they continue to kind of find that balance moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that's where as Natalie keeps kind of putting the blame on herself, she needs to be a lot more on point, you know, in terms of like, you know, either telling them what kind of plays they need to

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[SPEAKER_03]: to execute versus the given opponent.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Or again, just be more particular with the lineups because like these last two matchups, I think LA's minutes weren't particularly good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, I mean, maybe that's again where you do go back to that jaw, KT, small ball front court, which, you know, been effective throughout the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, I want you to hang on to that thought because this kind of leads into my last topic here before we talk about the upcoming stretch of of games, but but specifically to the to the chin thing because I had the same question Brian, I saw the same thing, which is it looks like the defenses are adjusting to her a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, you know, the thing is, is if she finds out or in real time, in rhythm during the game, that, oh, defenses are kind of, you know, paying attention to me a little bit more, because there were, I think there were a couple of late doubles that she got trapped on yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's smart enough to go to kind of suck her to the men to it and go, okay, like, here comes the doubt, well, we're swinging and we're going to get an open three pointer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they can build those things in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but at the same time, it's always going to be a size thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because she's got, she has to play, um, she's going to have to play against longer players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's always going to be difficult for someone her her size.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I, you know, I'm actually interested to see how they figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because she has had a really good season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to see her, uh, continue to, to succeed in, in, in this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, my last topic, and there's something I was thinking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: just cook Toronto for two games in a row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because they didn't get anybody at the deadline, they're running the same lineups and the same rotations for seemingly through the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I wondered if you guys had an idea of a lever that they could pull

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[SPEAKER_01]: If something goes cold, like let's say that, you know, they lose a couple games in a world, not that not that I think that's going to happen or anything because it because they play such smart, you know, they play smart basketball and they play defense and you're always going to be in games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's say there's a couple tough matchups and they do lose like what, like, do you think and you guys are at practice, so maybe you see this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a lever?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there something that they can pull off as a switch and I'm thinking, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Andre Iguadala in the starting lineup all of a sudden like just change the game for the warriors like in a very important time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As I was watching jobs like okay it's just just put John starting lineup or when it comes to playoffs you're not playing the bench as much as you will because the other teams are not going to play their bench as much so you're going to have to stick

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then as I was thinking that then KT goes and bus everybody's asked last night and I was like, okay, well, maybe maybe what they're doing right now is working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But because Konrad, you mentioned that that's small lineup as as something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not that maybe that was interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm interested in what you guys think what would a switch be if they decided they needed a little something extra and why don't we start with Harrison and we can go Harrison,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it could be jaw in the starting lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she would slot pretty seamlessly into Chachy's role, I would imagine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously Chachy kind of likes to get her touches earlier in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they like intentionally get a set or two for her right off the bat to kind of try to get her in a rhythm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if you want to throw a different wrinkle in there, you could try John Starlingla, but I don't see why that wouldn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously, she's a special shooter like that side step.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wrote about it last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just such an incredible move to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it doesn't matter where the defender is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right in your face, she's pulling it every time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, I mean, yeah, if you want to throw a different look out there, I could see John the lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I try to think if there's any others that come to mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you want to throw, move Gabby down to the three, like you could try to tip in the starting lineup, her room pressure does add a different elements to their offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they would want to shake things up in that big of a way, but that's another thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's to hear what you guys think, though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, I'm a big, I'm a big Kyle Charles fan, you know, I mean, statistically speaking, I know at this point, the sample size is small compared to the entire season, but the best lineup with regards to net rating was the one with Kyle and the starting lineup, right, where is VV, Kyle, Gabby?

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[SPEAKER_03]: um KT and then Kia Stokes um you know definitely a good like kind of defensive lineup you know especially if you really feel confident in the offensive production that KT is going to give you you know because kind of is just like that great you know connective piece which is why I definitely understood why they moved her back to the bench because again like she's connects all

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I want to make it clear, you know, I've written multiple articles about Latisa and me here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think very highly of her, but I'm just saying, if it's more matchup dependent, then again, so you're saying what's the, what's the kind of the wrinkle, the movie that you make?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what is Natalie holding in her back pocket going like, okay, it's something we figured it's out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think it's something we've already seen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just now she's going to like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: spam it more, which is again, let's let's take L.A. and to a lesser extent, finger all any other like Tall Center out of the rotation completely and make KT play all the backup five minutes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the reason why I say this and Harrison can attest, I've been saying this in like the the Beatwriters' room, I've been saying this in the media room, like these last couple

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's showing me something.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, obviously we saw last night culminate like in a big game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think like her highest scoring game right since since last year last season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, obviously coming off of that knee injury, I think we as like, you know, fans, analysts, reporters, we assumed that like her minutes would be managed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We assumed that they would kind of use her a little bit more conservatively.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And yet,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was the one at the start training camp, just looking at the roster.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, KT, you might have to play some minutes at the fire, but you came to that like, you know, and so I actually asked her about that yesterday, and she's grinning, you know, and she was slapping, because like, I've literally been like, you know, a broken record, I've been saying it all season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I said like, is it crazy how what it looked like was gonna be kind of like, you know, like a curve ball or a gimmick even has become like one of their go-to lineups.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In doing that, she became like a stretch five, but we remember how she looked last year, right, prior to the knee injury, what made her an all star, she was the go to scoring option, especially late in the game, especially late in the shot clock and a lot of that was what bully ball.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We haven't seen nearly as much of that this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now you could say it's partially because of her role as a stretch five, but also was it because, you know, she wanted to get to a point where she felt comfortable with her knee, you know, out of respect because I get it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a touchy subject.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't want to pressure pressure on that throughout the season or pressure on that, but it seems like she's really feeling like her old self again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I bring all of this up because that is the dynamic that the team needs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They need some kind of interior presence, some more rim pressure from outside of like Gabby or Veronica in Caitlyn.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, frankly, in terms of order, it's probably, well, actually, you could make an argument

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[SPEAKER_03]: a sub six foot, you know, guard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it's just a different dynamic, you know, because last year, I mean, even though her feelable percentage just weren't pretty, I mean, the amount of contact she was drawing is huge.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that plays in to their style anyway, they've always been like a half-court slower pace team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So if they could get that back,

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, in these next like 15, no 14 games, heading into playoffs, if that's something that could really reintroduce into the offense, then maybe we see less, right, like, often like scoring droughts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think that just goes such a long way for a team like this, that is so, you know, on point defensively.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Brian, I want to get your thoughts in a second here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just want to counter, or not counter, but I want to add to something karate was saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the things that happens, though, when you have to go down and play as a big, and we saw this, Alyssa Thomas, footer shoulder, straight into KT's gut, and she went down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then last night,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, and, uh, and he's tomorrow through a reverse spinning back elbow for you MMA fans right in her neck and she went down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there is a cost of her having to play defensively down there a little as you can tell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of that, you know, so I think that's just something to pay attention to as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just how, uh, how tough it is to play against these bigs all all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what you're saying,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The flip is on the offensive side, she may get some advantages against some players and be able to do what you just said, okay, Brian, give me your your what what's the switch, what's the lever that Natalie can pull in your mind.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, make it quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I agree with Conrato and something that's already that we've already seen and you know, I think they're like apples to apples like inserting I get all into the starting line up in the finals is put it Janellan for for Kia and go small ball to start and then say it's against the ACEs and it's like, okay, well, you have, you know, Kia coming off the bench to kind of get like the last.

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[SPEAKER_02]: half of Asia's first stint, you know, maybe that just presents something different.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I'm still at a loss when it comes to how they beat the ACEs, but hey, maybe something, maybe something along those lines.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that's mind short and sweet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I did have one more question before we move on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we brought up on this podcast one time, like when Carla late was just cooked and you know, she's had a great season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like, you know, what does it look like?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think Conrad or probably knows where I'm going with this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But what does it look like if they were to protect Carla instead of Chetchy, you know, but I think, you know, Caitlin Chen being as good as she is off the bench and tip, you know, having these moments like maybe that conversation started to fade a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But there was a specific player yesterday who the Valkyries had on their team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: who at one point in the game was four for seven from three for the tempo and that's Maria Cone Day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know what she finished with from three, but there was one point where she was four for seven and she just had a, she was on fire in the first half.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, can router you put out a tweet that you're like, absolutely, she would work on this team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you could see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think there's a little bit there with, you know, now we had that conversation with Carla, is there a conversation there with, with Konday or do you think that, you know, Chetchie, way if it comes between those three that Chetchie is the right protection for this group.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, in terms of familiarity, I definitely understand, no, I think Chechie was the right player to protect.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I also tweeted last night, which I've been tweeting throughout the season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have not been a fan of the way Chechie has been used this season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've spoken to her a few times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's been very, again, professional about it, but I think,

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's not the best way for her to be used and that's why I said moving forward, you know, if you're not making any trades, then you got to really optimize each player's role.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and it wasn't just me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was a number of other like writers were saying, like, whoa, that's, that's a lot of shot creation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of drip.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's a lot of back and down for Chetchy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I mean, I had difficulty with some of these shots, man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I think it was the right one because I mean like her entire career body of work and that's including, you know, you're early again, everything like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she is one of the premier shooters in the world.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They really need to find a way to tap back into that or, you know, to get her those easier looks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But as for Conde, I'm actually glad you brought that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know normally we say this for the end.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She was the one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She was very generous with her time with me yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I had an opportunity to interview her one-on-one To ask her just that her opinion of what she thought Life would have been like as a balcony and how she actually had envisioned what her role could have been So that will be one of my upcoming articles coming out because I know a lot of fans

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[SPEAKER_03]: When she was selected in the expansion draft and everyone ran to YouTube to look at her clips, I think everybody understood why Ohema had selected her and yeah, she actually said she did put a lot of thought into how she thought she could have fit in with this team and I think as you all agreed, you definitely could see how it would have worked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The expansion draft did wonders for us, but in terms of losing some of those players.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to keep happy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't have to worry about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have to worry about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's offseason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not this sheriff, but it's soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Evelyn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The sirens are coming from one of our players, at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's end with this, which is the Valkyrie's going to two game road trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dallas on Friday nights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of a sneaky, like, good playoff matchup kind of game, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't get them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have an ion channel, so I don't get them live and so I have to either watch Watch it on the WMBA app live or wait until the very next morning before they put it up as a on demand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm stuck if I if I missed the game live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so, at Dallas at the sparks, the sparks of seater rated their best player, not even really, you know, it's pretty close so not not too far away from home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any thoughts Harrison on the Friday game with Dallas?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think Dallas is seven out of the last 10, Valcharies are eight out of the last 10, they're both playing good basketball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very close, I think, as far as quality of teams,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, both teams are playing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be a good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to need Gabby to play more than 20 minutes if they want to win that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In my opinion, I don't know if they're going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like we talked about before, she's kind of stolen that reconditioning phase slash keeping her fresh for the, you know, down the stretch of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think Gab is going to need to play maybe a couple words of 25 minutes on Friday if they want to pull that one out, but yeah, it's going to be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to go at least one and one with these two games with the Spark some Sunday and that shouldn't be a tough one to pull out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, you don't want to overlook any opponent, but there are rosters fairly depleted right now.

01:00:31.745 --> 01:00:34.787
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's going to be, for I was going to be interested in one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a one game against Dallas this Friday and another game in 10 days at home against Dallas.

01:00:45.508 --> 01:00:48.050
[SPEAKER_01]: So they see them twice in a span of two weeks.

01:00:48.070 --> 01:00:49.251
[SPEAKER_01]: So interesting test there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's huge.

01:00:51.399 --> 01:00:51.899
[SPEAKER_03]: It's huge.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously, you know, um, the values they want to be the highest seed possible, understandable, right?

01:00:58.462 --> 01:01:06.285
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, you know, Harrison, I've talked about this, they could very well be the fourth seed, you know, and Dallas could be the fifth seed or vice versa.

01:01:06.605 --> 01:01:13.928
[SPEAKER_03]: So this could potentially be a first round matchup, right there, which I think would be great, you know, for entertainment and rating purposes.

01:01:14.148 --> 01:01:14.469
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

01:01:14.529 --> 01:01:14.769
[SPEAKER_03]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, but, you know, um, Melissa Tribwasser of the nine, she wrote a great article a couple days ago, you know, she covers the Dallas wings and she wrote how again, great record, obviously the talent on that team is, you know, just, you know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: whatever adjective or superlative you want to use right but I mean like they're just a very talented team with a lot of upside but unlike the Valcreus and I was saying this you know to Harrison the other writers like in my opinion like the Valcreus

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[SPEAKER_03]: But they got the best thing going for them this season is that everyone understands, they totally know their identity, their team identity, and they all locked in on that, and they embrace it.

01:02:09.681 --> 01:02:10.962
[SPEAKER_03]: You can't say that about other teams.

01:02:11.022 --> 01:02:19.387
[SPEAKER_03]: You know they have talent, but they're still trying to search for like, what are they, who are they, what do they want to be on a game to game basis?

01:02:19.427 --> 01:02:21.168
[SPEAKER_03]: The liberty, they don't really know who

01:02:22.629 --> 01:02:27.213
[SPEAKER_03]: like they know they have individually talented players, they don't know what are the best combinations, right?

01:02:27.634 --> 01:02:30.196
[SPEAKER_03]: The ACEs, every ACEs fan will tell you, right?

01:02:30.296 --> 01:02:33.619
[SPEAKER_03]: Like they know they have like the best player in the world.

01:02:34.259 --> 01:02:36.441
[SPEAKER_03]: They struggle to execute in the fourth quarter.

01:02:36.461 --> 01:02:38.823
[SPEAKER_03]: There's something about like their communication, right?

01:02:39.664 --> 01:02:46.930
[SPEAKER_03]: The links obviously apply get better with Nefis Collier back, but I mean, you know, they haven't been particularly great defensively, like these last, like,

01:02:47.711 --> 01:02:51.633
[SPEAKER_03]: you know, 12, 14 games, right?

01:02:51.994 --> 01:02:59.798
[SPEAKER_03]: And so the wings, they've won a lot of games, but they've done it because of the billions of pagebackers.

01:02:59.818 --> 01:03:02.219
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how I'm a list of Trubwasser described it, right?

01:03:02.299 --> 01:03:02.500
[SPEAKER_03]: Like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's very like chaotic and it's really just page being brilliant, which that's great, but it kind of says like house, like sustainable is that right like in a playoff series, you know, you want to be able to have, you know, consistent execution and not just kind of can't have like a bad game and for them right right so that's why it's interesting and it's something you definitely want to monitor I think, you know,

01:03:32.002 --> 01:03:35.843
[SPEAKER_03]: The wings obviously want to monitor it for their own, you know, benefit.

01:03:35.903 --> 01:03:46.285
[SPEAKER_03]: But if you're a balconies fan and they're a potential opponent, you kind of want to monitor that and see, you know, like, what are the ways that you could really take advantage of the things that, you know, Dallas might not do particularly well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Brad, do you have anything else for we get out of here?

01:03:50.526 --> 01:03:51.866
[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing, nothing, great show.

01:03:52.547 --> 01:03:58.468
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, Harrison, I click on that chronicle link to your face.

01:03:59.532 --> 01:04:02.614
[SPEAKER_01]: And it still says, in turn, on there.

01:04:04.296 --> 01:04:06.598
[SPEAKER_01]: You're not doing interns work my friend.

01:04:06.798 --> 01:04:08.920
[SPEAKER_01]: You're right in really good pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So actually, I just wanted to say that as a shout-outs, I think the stuff that I've been reading has been excellent and let people know where they can find you in all of the places that you're out there as.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you can read me obviously at the San Francisco Chronicle and pumping out a good bit of Alex content that's been my main thing throughout this internship and you can follow me on X at Harrison Rich underscore mainly where I'm at on socials

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll have a piece on Natalie Nikose coming out next week that I've been working on for a minute now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Looking forward to dropping that.

01:04:53.808 --> 01:04:56.870
[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, you can check that out and then read all my stuff at the Chronicle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Conrado, you talked about a piece that you have coming out soon on Con day, what else, anything else, do you want to plug before we get out of here?

01:05:07.584 --> 01:05:13.870
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, unfortunately, you know, while I enjoy what I write, I'm not as fast of a writer as Harrison.

01:05:14.491 --> 01:05:16.774
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so I'm always keeping people on, uh,

01:05:17.334 --> 01:05:28.141
[SPEAKER_03]: in anticipation, but yeah, definitely Maria Conday also had an opportunity to catch up with Tevi Fakbenle, you know, as always, as everyone likes to call her, she is like the ambassador to this sport.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll have a little article there about kind of catching up and, you know, her view or her thoughts about what Golden State has become in year two, you know, as now, as someone on the outside looking in.

01:05:42.590 --> 01:05:44.892
[SPEAKER_03]: And then, yeah, still had the Kia Stokes piece coming out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And oh, one that's more on a personal thing, but it is technically Valkyries related on Sunday.

01:05:52.155 --> 01:05:59.858
[SPEAKER_03]: It was Filipino Heritage Night, and it was very last minute, but Valk's PR was able to put me in contact with Pilo.

01:06:01.198 --> 01:06:02.459
[SPEAKER_03]: So I was able to hang out with him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: during halftime the third quarter and you know, yeah, just talked about basketball in general, but the Valqueries and yeah, I'll probably write a little right up about like some of the thoughts that he shared and, you know, the continued enthusiasm that he and the Filipino American community has for the Valqueries.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome.

01:06:22.145 --> 01:06:22.665
[SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, as we've talked about this new audio feed and, you know, make sure that you do subscribe there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the things that I want to do for next week as we kind of, you know, really, really get behind the new feed is going to do something with Konrado to, you know, to just kind of get to know him a little bit better and also for the listeners to get to know him.

01:06:48.885 --> 01:06:55.087
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, may not always be exactly the sport specific, but just kind of people specific.

01:06:55.167 --> 01:07:00.748
[SPEAKER_01]: So I can rather and I'll do we're going to do a little one on one thing for the for the new feed.

01:07:00.768 --> 01:07:02.689
[SPEAKER_01]: And that will also be posted on this YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you'll want to click on that and check that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For Brian, for Conrado.

01:07:11.099 --> 01:07:13.505
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Harrison, for jumping on with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will see you when we see you peace out.