49ers Improve to 4-0: Kittle's Late TD Helps Beat Broncos 24-14 | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're back with we want winners, 49ers, hosted a game that I think even some 49er fans were kind of like, okay, not 100% confident that they're going to win this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I had the interesting, the way that I viewed this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to cover the Valkyries and they were playing at the exact same time as before you'd enters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had the Valkyries on television and I had the 49ers on my iPad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So basically what happened is I'd watch the Valkyries and then when the 49ers ran a play, I'd pause the Valkyries game and I just kind of kept doing that and I was able to stay in touch with both games pretty much all the way through live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we had to record a Valkyries podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... right at right around half time of the forty nine years game so court of the ruckus pat podcast went back to the nine or game i was probably i'd say forty five minutes behind but i had to have time buffer

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I caught up completely with, uh, I think two minutes left in the game or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I didn't miss anything and it gets spoiled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was able to focus, but yeah, I had double duty and it's kind of going to be like this as long as the Valkyries continue to play in the playoffs because I think for some reason, I have no idea why the WMB does this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they have games every Sunday like why didn't we why don't they play Saturday like the haven't we played Saturday and Monday let's skip Sunday because that's the biggest television day of the of the week for sports fans so I don't know why they continue to go heads up against the NFL but oh well but um so I was kind I almost kind of had to be even more uber focused

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[SPEAKER_00]: prescriptive in how I was watching both things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I feel like I even have a better understanding of this game because I wasn't like

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[SPEAKER_00]: on Twitter at the same time as the game, like I didn't miss any plays, because I really had to focus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this was a really good game to watch for that first half because it was kind of boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like nothing was really going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was three, three until half time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when the Valkyries were over and I was playing ketchup, the game actually, at least for the 49ers, I was very impressed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was your some of your takeaways with this 24 to 14 victory by the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it was a really a team win, I thought, I think, um, they got contributes for both sides of the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it wasn't red hot rock, not to say that he was bad necessarily, but he didn't play to the level that, um, he's played the last several weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't expect him to, um, I,

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[SPEAKER_01]: thought that it would be a game that would test the offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't anticipate both of the corners going out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, but it still, it was, they did a lot of good things well against us, like in the running game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, Brock figured out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he had a much better second half than he did first half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was just a good solid team when the the Broncos couldn't really get anything going, um, it was, I was, it's one of those games where we.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was funny, I was talking to someone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Earlier today about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: how things are different than when I was younger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, regular season games, when I was a kid, we got so spoiled and jaded that I can't ever remember really getting excited about, you know, maybe the cowboys, but getting excited about, you know, a regular season victory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, oh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: going way back, oh, we beat the Saints again, or the Falcons, or you know, division games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just wasn't, you got your point when we were so spoiled that it was championed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was like wake us up in January.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're not quite there yet, but it was a real business like performance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Niners start the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in Australia take the game much more seriously than the Rams did and then they come home and they kind of have two easy ones and so this was really

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[SPEAKER_00]: after the Rams game, their first real test, but even, I think people could say, well, you know, the Rams, whatever reason, you know, Sean McVay wants to joke about, you know, him making a bad coaching, whatever, you know, I think their team leadership is pretty upset that a lot of people think that they did not prepare correctly for that trip, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was like a real team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is kind of the two games that I circled you and I circled this back to back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Say, okay, we got Denver at home, real team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seahawks in Seattle, maybe the realist team and the league for all we know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for them to actually get through this game with a victory and I thought workmen like, that's a great way to put it business like a great way to put it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought there was a, there was a different level of toughness with them today because

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[SPEAKER_00]: Denver is just a different level of talent on their roster and I think the 49ers probably needed this themselves to say, okay, you know, we are we are as good as we think that we are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I will also say that I'm very happy that Botanix was quarterbacking this game for Denver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: whatever game plan is for this dude, man, everything is just screens, wide receiver screens, you know, throw it off to the flat, RJ Harvey, I think he had 10 catches today and he, they rarely threw the ball, you know, past the 10 yard line or the 10 past 10 yards in the air.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, you know, I was kind of perplexed a little bit because it's not like the 49er secondary is, you know, this, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there were moments where I was like who's my man out there who was who plays with the the padded helmet jack was jack Jones jack Jones jack Jones

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, there's yardage to be had on Jack Jones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are they not targeting this dude?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the one who gave up a touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He almost had an interception late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was just watching him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there was, you know, up and stout, there were running some some plays, you know, for first downs were up and stout was involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think both teams kind of went into the game plan going like, okay,

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[SPEAKER_00]: we respect the the defenses here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to outtuff the other team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lot and didn't you Denver's running game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not good enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that was necessarily the right way to play this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was talking to my dad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was saying very early on I was like, you know, the offensive can have to bail the defense out because not because the defense was playing poorly at that the defense, you know, had a had a really good game, but just the heat and the way Denver was playing where they just wanted to extend these drives with the dank and the dunks and I'm like, man, the defense is going to get tired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the offense didn't really wake up until the second half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A shout, Shenahan was very conservative in that first half, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like both offenses were like, we're going to get this game into the second half, and whoever has the better second half is going to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is an interesting style that both coaches decided that they were going to play this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought the better team won in the second half, the better offensive team won clearly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The 49ers often says clearly better than Denver's offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought both defenses were competitive and played well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned the DB's going back, going out for Denver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Niners also lost use check.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they also lost seagull and it had to be hell for a lot of those guys with how hot it was today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there was lots of cramping and stuff going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was impressed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought the Niners were like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to outtuff us on our home field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, just that late in the game, Denver scores, they finally put something in the end zone,

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[SPEAKER_00]: as if to say, hey, guys, this is our, this is what we do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, we just come back where they come back kids and Brock Perti to George Kittle was like, no, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're, we're just going to put this game out of reach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, that play was amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm saying, great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just pretty hyped up for what I saw from this 49ers team now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can they beat Seattle?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll, we'll see,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, let uh, what you were called why for Africa, the team that they played, but they let the team come back a little bit chargers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They let the chargers come back in at a little bit, but they were clearly uh, winning that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is kind of like an early season huge game for uh, you know, I think it's like all eyes on Seattle Seattle and San Francisco next week from a national perspective too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is going to be kind of a fun lead up to that game next weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I tend to temper my, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: expectations and, you know, they have looked great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it's October before games end with the new schedule, we're not even a quarter away through the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they are playing well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is it's awesome to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, you know, the offensive line has been much better than I expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see what Kyle said about the offensive blood?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I did not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: something like, uh, I don't know why everyone hates on our offensive line or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like about, you know, people being, you know, people, the prognosticators being disrespectful about the talent on the offensive line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was, he was kind of saying like, you know, they're, they're, they're a good unit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, people just are clowning on them for no reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I don't know what's the reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, what we're being presented at the moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What he is right is we have been slow to give them credit, but also we can't pretend like, you know, McKinvits, I gave him credit last year because he had T as gotten better over time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can't pretend like he wasn't, wasn't good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all across the line pony was not good last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was good as a rookie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was not good last year, Bronskill, he gets him in the right sense, but he has matchup problems when he is faced with bigger guys and he has got ragged off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Same with Kobe, all of those guys outside of Trent have struggled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, again, this season they have all played well, so he is right, but what can do is pretend

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[SPEAKER_01]: The previous criticism was in error or not fair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely was, but if you don't see them that way, it's for the reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're watching, you know that they have been better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: they have played really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I started off saying is I had no expectation that they would all four be better in once.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is actually what has happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Kudos then that's why I mentioned them specifically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hadn't heard this quote, but they played well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, Brock is feeling where the pressure is coming from the rolling Brock out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're setting up the defensive line for, you know, they're baiting them to go one way and Brock's rolling out the other way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock's got great feet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's rarely ever kind of stuck in in scenarios where he's, you know, looks like he's in trouble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He still hasn't been sacked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say from a run blocking perspective, that's maybe where they could still get better because CMC is having to run for some tough, tough yardage on some of these plays, same with Caitlin Black, not giant holes that these guys are picking up yardage through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But still, much improved and just the stat that they don't, they haven't given up

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of heroes and and I want to go back to that toughness thing again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Evans, we know Mike Evans is is often hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You you've been mentioning all season long that you know Mike Evans isn't the same dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was five, five years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does have a tremendous level of toughness for this dude, whether it's a fractured rib or whatever the injury is, they haven't really said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That dude was catchin' balls, wincing, slowly getting up, jogging off to the sideline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: taking a few plays off and then coming back and doing it all over again and he led the team in receptions and receiving your decision you could tell he was uncomfortable I don't know you know it will what pain medication was was going on or whatever or what he was wearing but like that is

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[SPEAKER_00]: what this game really was all about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have your top wide receiver out there in pain, playing through it in, you know, it was probably 95 degree weather on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you let's just, that's just a byproduct of who they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, do I wish that they weren't always so hurt all the time?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I'm kind of worried about use checks injury, the way that he got hit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was like, it's just kind of who they are right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their ability to next man up everything, to play through these injuries for the depth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You saw all of the changes that they had to make to the roster just so they had healthy bodies in certain positions in this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, they still, they, they didn't have a sack, I don't think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they only, I think Keon White has the only, I think he's the leader with two sacks and they only have one interception all year long too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like this defense is taking away balls and they're just kind of making sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that they're able to get the offense back on the field to score points to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, that that stood out to me today is just the way that they handled their business in an impressive way, in a tough way, in a very tough minded way, playing through that heat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I just wanted to mention Mike because I just thought that was like a crazy effort from him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and at one point, you could, you know, obviously we knew coming in that he was Um, had it was dealing with the river, but then it was one where he got a he got hit and he got up and it was like he was also like favoring a leg.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This dude just can't

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[SPEAKER_01]: because it's like he fell the wrong way and landed on his like knee hip situation and it's like man and he just like you say he just slowly got up and that time he might have went to the side line but he was back out there again showing a lot of grit and determination and in that

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[SPEAKER_01]: that matters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And any of my criticism of him really, again, it always, it's never the player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the fans and their expectations telling us, you know, saying, and it was, this was, I'm not making it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was live and the, and the nine are fears.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a Hall of Fame player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at why I received before the first time in a long time and look I'm not if if we were talking about careers as a whole yes there's nothing that is going to happen here with the 49ers that is going to tarnish his eventual

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[SPEAKER_01]: induction into the Hall of Fame, but that guy is not the guy that's out there today, which is fine because he has shown in the time that he's played here, that he can still be an

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, for this team, like the examples I gave, you know, Frank Orr wasn't a Hall of Famer in Buffalo, but he provided a lot of value to that team, you know, it's, it's possible for a player who is just older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not the same guy anymore, but if that does not those two things don't equate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that, that

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[SPEAKER_01]: the fact that he is not who he was in his prime is not some sort of indictment that he's like worthless anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As long as the fans are timpering their expectations, if you're expecting 2022, Mike Evans and that type of production, you know, that's your fault because he's just

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drake Greenlaw, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Drake Greenlaw wanted this game madly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Supposedly, I did the reporting on this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see this on on the footage or on the on the broadcast, but supposedly he went up to Peyton at the end of the game or something and Fred had to pull him back and when they asked

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Sean Peyton, they asked Sean Peyton after the game and he's like, hey, you know, hell of a player, you know, we loved him when he was there, whatever x-y-n-z.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle Shanahan after the game said, if he had to wear a player's jersey, it would be Drake Greenlaw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how much he loves Drake Greenlaw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how much Drake Greenlaw is family.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that this meant a lot to Dre and because it meant a lot to Dre,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It meant a lot to the 49ers and Dre was out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were watching this game closely and I'll tell you the way I watched this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to see what Fred was doing pretty much on every defensive snap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to see where he was on the field, where they were moving him, if he was blitting, Fred was, you know, Fred's usually the guy who gets to close the deal and make the tackle because the other players around him are plugging up the holes in such.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there were moments where I was like, man, Fred's having to do a lot of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: guessing where the play's going and it's not there and he's going to take on two blockers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the guy who was actually out there with with free reign and looking pretty fast was Dre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the one that the one that people probably saw was he had a shot at Bo Nix in uh and I think he kind of got he he got nudged a little bit which took him off of the the pathway to get to Nix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that man was out there on the field of the team and tackles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looked great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know he was hurting earlier in the week because of a quadricep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know with Dre, the thing like all of us old, you know, all of us nine or fans who've been watching him, the thing that worries us the most is that he's too hyped up and plays too hard and you know, uses his body in ways that, you know, it's probably, he shouldn't have to,

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[SPEAKER_00]: hit people so hard because then he's also taking punishment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was just glad to see whatever it was in him that he needed to get out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he left it all out on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was really fun to see Drake get his today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, you could make the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's here in my note that I was watching there that I made or Washington again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could make the case the drink that I was the best player on the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was everywhere and fun fact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had three pressures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: which in nine past rushes and who was it that white he had like three the same number in like 26 rushes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean he was doing it all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was playing well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He missed a couple tackles but yeah overall he was um he is has always been when he was here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is like the

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[SPEAKER_01]: In a lot of ways, I mean, he's not a Hall of Fame or so, it's not fair to compare him to one to Dremaan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he is that kind of player and that he is the guy who has always got, he's got his foot on the line, always.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he has in the past been the guy who crosses the line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I remember filling in specifically when the whole Dom thing happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Dread was the instigator of the thing that got Dom all upset because he hit the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, it Objectively he hit the dudes late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but that's just right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you hate them if they play against you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But because I, like, using the straight mind is, I understand why people feel the way they feel about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he doesn't play for them, but I love the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that has been always been my stance with, with Greenlaw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I was so disappointed when they decided not to make the money work to keep him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: while I could see that you could make the case statistically, and then we factor in the injury and misgames and all of that, that it was the right business decision to make for both parties.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't want to pay him what he was able to get in Denver, and so he got the money,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not as good without him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No disrespect to D. winners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I'm glad that he's back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, um, today, I'm glad that he got his payback or whatever it was, his revenge tour against him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it was good to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Offensively this was the the weakest game for the Niners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of that was Denver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, you know, like I said, I think Shanahan his his game plan seem to be like we know this is going to be a little bit of a longer game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We cannot have quick three and outs like we have to have sustained drives and yes, some of it was there and some of it was not and it was three three at the half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And going into the second half, they even got the ball to start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is kind of how they do it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They get the second half start, they kind of get going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then to put, they didn't even get a first down in the, on the first drive, but they got a fumble recovery and that kind of set the tone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: special teams has been a weakness for them over the years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to see that special teams, it was Neil, right, who got the football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To see that, to see that kind of kickstart them, I thought was was really nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was much needed because while the defense was playing,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were bending, but they weren't going to create the turnover.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bonyx is pretty shifty back there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was actually more scared of Bonyx as a runner than I was as a passer, but he didn't run that often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that wasn't, that's not where they were going to turn them over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it had to happen in the special teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that was cool to see, because that ignited

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, that gave the favorable field position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they were able to score.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Brock hit Debo on a on a one-year touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were kind of off from that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I like I feel like that special teams play that Fumble was kind of the turning point in the entire game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't the way they had been moving the ball previous that I didn't see how they were going to, you know, matriculate as, um, thanks for having me to say down the field consistently enough for, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: ball down there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was around the 25 or 30 is where they got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it really set them up to be able to do what they wanted to do, which in that's what they did that possession of, they just ran the ball at us, which was something that I thought they would try to do more often.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because they just don't have me for whatever reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nix is not a we may be the coverage because I haven't watched the game yet on how they were covering water, but he consistently doesn't get the targets that a player of his caliber should get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then once Pat Ryan got hurt on that one,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That shot play that he sucked up mess play of the game for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think yeah, it was and it was it sucked for them that he Got injured on that play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just something around the league that you know I hear fans actually complain about I think is this awful when these guys Yeah, and you know it's kind of awful the way fan you know I get

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[SPEAKER_01]: you were rooting for your team, but I've never been a kind of guy that's rooting for another dude to get injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just crazy, you know, to be cheering to do with getting with

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[SPEAKER_01]: card of the field is just yeah Michael Irvin and Philadelphia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just awful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was not it wasn't posed last, it didn't last week or maybe we can forward Dr. War.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah, it's you to cure this neck and that's the SC fans we're just.

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[SPEAKER_01]: assholes is just, it's just awful to, you know, again, I'm on my team to win too, but not at the cost of I'm not rooting for petrists that are to be hurt or right, or rather lost to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: need to be injured because they did just out there work and shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want nobody to do hurt on the job and so that's why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it was that was definitely the turning point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I wanted to talk a little bit about Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every win does it have to be a referendum on his status as a lead quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this was a business like performance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, his passing wasn't great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, his running was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what gets under reported is the fact that he doesn't turn over the ball and

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[SPEAKER_01]: early returns, he didn't have, he didn't have a turn over worthy throws.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And those are throws where he hits the guy in the hand and they drop it or, you know, that type of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you fumble it, but we recovery did there, you know, the one that was close and I didn't even think about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was right before the kiddo play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He throws a ball to CMC, it's just out, it's like CMC runs like a little out and CMC's covered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And CMC tries to make a one handed catch in this ball kind of bats up in the air for a half a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when he did that, I thought, oh no, this is going to be intercepted, thankfully wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was, I think that was the only ball that was probably

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not in the probably the one that Brock would have pulled back because of the the risk, but other than that, I don't I can't remember another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He played.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to say, we especially compares in the what we seeing the past three weeks, but every week is not going to be that, you know, so I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm striving to be objective in my analysis of him and it's again, the fact that he didn't have a great game is not a referendum on whether or not the type of player he is I just think all of these conversations are premature and I know that a lot of people are invested in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: bathing and having this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have two, I don't want to call them journalists, with two, I don't even know what you'd call them, media personalities, who go about it in different ways, you know, Grant does the grant thing, which once you understand him and look through the lens of what it actually is doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't like it,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't get rage-bated by it because that's really all he's trying to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then Lombardy on the other end of his spectrum is like, he is running a rock party before MVP campaign.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't think that's appropriate for his role, but you know, and I also think,

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[SPEAKER_01]: talking about the MVP or the Super Bowl or anything in week four is hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why are the months, you know, player the month?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and then, but then he had one post, but if he stacks up two or three more of these, you know what that means.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's played in the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many years is this is fourth year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's his first one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now where we've gone for him get one to not one, not two, not three, not four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the bra, what are we, what are we doing right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's why I am one who the

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[SPEAKER_00]: writing weekly, you're doing podcasts weekly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And your angle is Brock is great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have people constantly coming at you with negative every time Brock, because bad throw, I'm sure David Lamarty's Twitter feed gets lit up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and you don't want to look like a hypocrite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going on the angle that, hey, Brock is better than anybody thinks and he could be one of the best quarterbacks in the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've seen other people who go on the other side who think, you know, he's an average guy who's got a great system and the argument against that is Kyle's had lots of quarterbacks and

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[SPEAKER_00]: outside of Matt Ryan's MVP season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one has played as good as Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that would be the argument against that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think it's the NFL and the NFL is the juggernaut when it comes to importance and sports when it comes to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: keeping folks employed in media in the top game in the journalism game and you have to kind of build your own narrative on whatever it is your expertise is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't even really pay attention to much of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The things that I like, I kind of take my own kind of heart rate monitor in a way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was watching that game and thinking like, okay, as long as the defense holds and they, and there's not some sort of, you know, broken play and look, the Broncos were shooting themselves in the foot with penalties, you know, offensively all game long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought as long as the defense can get the ball back to the offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and not give up touch of like field goals fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought the night was going to win the game because I figured that they had enough firepower.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had enough offensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because just look at the talent on offense when you have the ability to use debo as like maybe your fourth most important player and you have Christian and you have Kittle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have Mike Evans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you could say maybe their secondary receivers, you know, their their third and fourth and fifth receivers aren't great, but, you know, show me a team that has great depth in the wide receiver room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought Brock CMC, kiddo XYZ, they're just going to win the game and that's a comfort level that you don't have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with every quarterback because like I would I would love to ask Denver Bronco fans the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you believe that Bonyx was going to bring you back and maybe because that's kind of his DNA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they were, but as as a fan of the other team and watching him play,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not think that Bonyx was going to come back and beat the 49ers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There just wasn't enough there for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's he's dirting balls, you know, whenever they were, we're getting to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he just kept, he just did not have the firepower on his side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't think he's that, I don't think he's an exceptional quarterback either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's serviceable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I think his legs are his, probably his best, his, his best trait as a quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I wasn't, I'd never thought that I was like, nah, he's not going to win this game as long as the Niners get the ball back, they're fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how I felt the entire game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe that's my own heart rate monitor rating for how I feel about Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't necessarily feel that way about Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: all the time last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think people probably listening to this and know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Brock, you know, I think even by his own standards, he did not have a great season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why he said at the beginning of the season, he would love to get back to what he believes he was in the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe he's thinking out, you know, thinking too much and screwing himself in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the best version of Brock is, but he's playing pretty damn well right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was confident that they were gonna win this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not think that they were gonna screw it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hi, come at it from the other direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess they have a sister-in-law is a Denver fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I watched him a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the stats didn't two years, they, he's come back 14 times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's that, where's I'm gonna have to see him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen him down 30.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the second half and look like crap and they come back to win out a lot of the times you know the quarterback gets credit for the comeback but a lot of those times it's a defense that turns a team over or gets a big sack that changes field position so it's not all him and so I thought that if it was going to happen it would be something like that

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they were going to be able to and they did run the ball well, but there was something that the game script wise, they just weren't able to lean on like like for example, like I say after they.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when they got down there in the in the red zone and were able to lean on Harvey and Dobbins that that was where I thought their game plan would be because I still think that defense our defense is solved in there and if their office of line is good and for whatever reason they just could not

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[SPEAKER_01]: take over the game, that way it's going to be interesting to rewatch it to see what other demores bringing a lot of, excuse me, the offense being able to handle the pressure as we talked

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[SPEAKER_01]: high scores, high grades, V8 versus their defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just couldn't pass rushes with their their calling card is and they just couldn't get

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the pressures that they, I'm sure that they hoped that they were going to be able to get on Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they weren't able to do that in the second area was, they didn't have anybody back there really who you take a count on to turn them over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was an uphill battle because I agree with you, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with the offense that they have out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't really concerned that other than history, the history of seeing him do it, you know, had the thought in the back of my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I was objectively watching what was happening out there on the field, I didn't see a way that they were going to be able to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was interesting the way the commentators were calling it when they were like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: like midway through the fourth quarter, like, you know, at a certain point, this is not going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then once the George score happened, here's like, oh, this is a ramp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is, you know, this is done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, what did you think about the way that they tried to get those two scores at the end because they needed two scores.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were at the end of fourth down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were at a third down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And instead of going for it, they decided to kick a 58 yard field goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looked, you know, field goals today in the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They, you know, you probably better than 50% from from 50 yards these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 58 is a little different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they missed that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that they should have probably gone on fourth down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know I don't know that I'm sure they had like a um uh you know they're math told them that if they don't do it now then they don't they probably don't have enough time so I'm sure there was a a play script that said kick the field goal here but that was a tough field I was like man if it did you are just no give me I would a rather you know gone ten yards further and then kick that field great especially at Levi which you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: opponents if said is notoriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it wasn't windy today, but those, you know, it's been said to Levi's a tough place to kick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that was an interesting, an interesting call.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to look ahead to Seattle, but before that, this Niners roster is so beat up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw, we had a brand and cook sighting out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He, I thought he, I thought he should have got a defense of passenger parents on the one ball that went towards his way that I can remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they brought back former 49ers draft pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anthony Pettis, who we all remember him leaving the team, not in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't a great friendship there at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not a great friendship while he was there because it felt like he was always in Kyle's doghouse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, here we are like, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like eight years later,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he's he's back and I thought he had a chance to play, but then I guess he had a calf injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So who knows?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who knows what that even means for his future?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I we did not hear a lot about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just I just thought, you know, it's, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not just, you know, with Drake Greenlaw and his Dante Pettis, sorry, Anthony Pettis was the MMA fighter, Dante Pettis, but, you know, the guy comes back and you think,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if anybody could get something out of him, it's Kyle Shanahan because he drafted him, but then when you see him, he can't even play the first week because of a calf thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, maybe it was just a nice story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you think about John take coming back?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I happen to be one of the nerds that I watched him and Cleveland last year and he wasn't bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: he was clearly a professional receiver, which, you know, because of the nine or ties, I was, I thought I was bad to see that he's made a career of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I have a sauce bar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not like a lot of fans that like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when somebody leaves your team be like fruit against them or don't want to be good because it, you know, you don't want it to reflect badly on your franchise or whatever, but I was watching was it on the jets the other day randomly and on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And today, actually, too, I watched Reson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Solomon Thomas is still out there doing his thing, nine years after, you know, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've always intended that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: those who's like him and trade, I don't get to pick where they get selected, you know, if somebody tells you they're going to pick you number one and they don't give you all this money, of course you take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's an organization or a decision and an organization or failure to me, especially when you

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you talk about somebody came who was always a solid guy in the community and doing so it wasn't like he wasn't working hard and that's why he, you know, didn't mean it wasn't playing well he played very well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, for the player he was, it just turns out he wasn't number two overall talent saying another guy that we had here that was drafted by the Raiders Cleveland Farrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is developed into a really solid pro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody told them the draft him was four dexter Lawrence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know a smart move but yeah so when I saw the Dante the game that I was watching actually he had like three or four catches and it's like wow is he's really out here doing this thing so I was hoping seeing what else we had at receiver because when you look at this you know you

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Evans and Debo and then you drop down to like number three is, you know, click or cowing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why can't you even get any run today, any targets?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, you would think a professional receiver would be able to get out here and make a difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much the system is changed since.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he was here, but yeah, but it seemed like, you know, damn, he comes in hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I mean, that's unfortunate for him because I think there's opportunities out here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was an opportunity out here for the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I had heard something a few weeks back about week five for Kirk, but I don't even think he's been clear to practice yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, and, you know, Kirk and cooks and Pettis, you know, that they're

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of like wild cards in a way, you know, Evans Evans was the definitive, you like, if Evans stays healthy, he's going to help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And these other guys are like wild cards, like maybe, you know, if they, maybe they can do something here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't, I don't think anybody has really high expectations for Dante, but it would be a nice story if he was to come back play well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And his pops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is in San Francisco, Gary Pettis, a Bolivic coach third base for the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a nice thing to have pops and down to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a cool thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope Dante gets a shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So all right, let's talk about the Seattle team, uh, Jarnold goes down week one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were all watching that Wednesday night game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Drew Locke keeps everything moving and they're doing fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Darnell comes back and then they lose to Washington, who do they lose to?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Washington?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody really expects the Washington makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And today they beat the chargers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, it's looking at their offensive numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're they're running back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're rookie running back price.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He went down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Zack Sharbanay is kind of in the same boat as a lot of these nine or players where he had to start the season on pup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Emmanuel Wilson is actually their leading rusher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he was only averaging 3.6 yards per per carry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: has had 42 targets in four games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The next highest player is their tight end for targets hit 15.

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[SPEAKER_00]: J.S.N.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is 32 catches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their next highest Cooper Cup has nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This offense is kind of a one man show at this point, but that one man is great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, what I don't like about this game against Seattle is it's way too early for either team to this is not neither team is going, this is not the same team that they're going to have in week 12 or week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 14 or 15 or whatever, but it is such a nice early matchup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know this rivalry matters to both sides of the fan base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Niners opening week last week went in last year, went into Seattle and won that funky game in Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Brock heard himself, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that just this matchup, this rivalry, you know, you and I are reading the Colin Kaepernick book and and Colin talks a lot about that rivalry and going back to Richard Sherman in those days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like this is like a really great game in week five, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hesitate to say that it means a whole lot right now because both teams are, they're good teams, but they're still finding their way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if that's me trying to take a little bit of the meaning out of it, thinking that if the Niners lose so what, that's not really what I mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's an impressive game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just too early to me for it to be like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, if the Niners win, this says that they're going to X, Y and Z and if Seattle wins, this says it's going to X, Y and Z.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If this was week 12, I'd probably feel differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what do you think about this big of a game this early in the season?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is the same thing the same way I felt after we beat the Rams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's was a great thing to do and to get that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, to start off wanting to own the division, I thought that was impressive, but I, I was never under the illusion that that team that we'd be in September and Australia is going to be the same team that we'll be dealing with in December.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I got a lot of pushback on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as you can, I mean, they're, they're not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they aren't a bad football team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even with Matthew Stafford throwing it to the other team, which, you know, he did quite a bit today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are still a talented football team and they will get better when their injured guys come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the same thing here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you say, I'm not, I don't want to, I'm not hedging against whatever happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they, if the Niners, I'm just at a place where it's the Niners win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am happy, obviously, but I'm not the one who's going to, I'm not here out here crowning a champion in October at 4.0.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I just watched too much football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've watched too much nine or football to fall into that trap that anything that happens

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[SPEAKER_01]: October 11th, it's going to tell me anything about who's going to be holding the lumbarity February 14th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's just, that's not how this works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would love to see them go into Seattle and be competitive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, you know, just never want to see your chain get boat raised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and with what I'm looking at, excuse me, offensively, you have, if this team bold races us, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless we brought up something crazy or we just turned the ball over a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should be in this game because their playmakers aren't really impressive outside of Jason who is probably one of the top five receivers in the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if a man you're Wilson is getting 21 attempts and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would be just assumed I would be J.S.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the ball too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see, who was it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: See the lamb had like 17 catches today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that, you know, that when you have special guys like that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we look at these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, look at this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking, I'm looking at the obstacle right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like cupping, shahee, and barner, got a target.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, Jason is like the only player player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully, we probably will stop him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: more so they would come with a defense that mitigates or helps to contain him at least because of all these guys here I guess Cooper Cup could be too, but I don't know if this version of Cooper Cup can yeah, it's going to be I'm not taking them lightly at all, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's, it's a winnable game and then the environment up there is a wild car because yeah, I've been in that stadium and there's a home field advantage they absolutely have a great advantage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not out in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm excited for this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish it was like a prime time game, but Fox Fox is like, Fox is like, how many games do we have to give to NBC?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just let us have this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to place a narrative on this, the Niners Plate Seattle to out of the last three games of the season last year, including the game where they got blown out in the division

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[SPEAKER_00]: that's the narrative right if it broke pretty played poorly in the second to last game of the season against Seattle and then he played even worse in the divisional playoff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're Brock and if you're Kyle,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that there's a little bit of like a okay like we're not going to show you everything but we're going to show you something because Seattle shut the Niners down in both of those games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Niners scored three points in the first one and I don't know if it's like six or something in the second one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's something for them, like they, whatever Seattle did last year, they had figured out the 49ers offense and Brock Perti.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is something I think that fans and prognosticators and people with podcasts and I think there's something there to chew on, you know, for Brock Perti and Kyle Shanahan to kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the game that they won in Seattle, they only scored 17 points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're talking about scoring, you know, less than 25 points in three games gets Seahawks last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we'll be back next week after the Seattle game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll probably be late again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a couple of more Sundays where I'm going to have to go later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Rod and I are also going to have our review of the Colin Kaepernick book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say with the next week to 10 days or so, I'm almost done with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had another project that I had to finish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I stopped reading it, but I'm back on it this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to Shelvin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to RF and my buddy Matt B who's a Seattle fan and he Matt B and I or in other channels talking about other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's glad I'm glad to see that Matt was hanging out in here too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is it from here for Rod.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am double G. We will see you when we see you piece out.