Does Buster Posey Have Any Answers for the Giants? | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back, Thompson, to Clark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are here to talk a little bit about the giants, but a little bit also about the major league baseball playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad is here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's kick off this show with a discussion on the giants postseason or end of the season, press conference, which

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buster did not win the press conference yet again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I want to go kind of I guess line and not line by line, but kind of point by point, I thought John Shea from the standard was, you know, kind of a key igniter in some of these quotes from Buster and before that, I was thinking about this because

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to figure out how many years in the 26 years that Pac-Bell AT&T and now Oracle Park have been in existence, how many years did I take off from going to a game?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got to be less than one hand and probably since 2008, I've been to multiple games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was trying to think and I was like, you know, I want, like, what was it that kept me from the park this year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what is going to keep me from the park next year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it does harken back to how the handle pride night now, you know, pride night isn't the only thing that I thought that they miss handled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, the just the way that

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[SPEAKER_00]: the overall kind of lack of solutions that they provide for things is was kind of frustrating and I know that you're frustrated with Vitello's silly quotes and stuff that doesn't make sense, stuff that is meaningless.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems to humor him to make him feel like he's on the cusp of pop culture for some reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got more of those in the press or two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think I think it boils down to this and I'd be interested in what other folks thought about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when you make a mistake you're you're married.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you've made tons of mistakes as if I still it is our fault many times and we don't realize it until much later than we probably need to realize it 100%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what you try to do is you just try and once you realize and maybe you kind of get away from your ego a little bit, you try and have accountability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing that pissed me off the most about this press conference, so the Pride thing happened, Pride night thing happened, they screwed it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buster holds a press conference soon thereafter, unassumingly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that he's going to take more questions about this was seeming, it was just like surprised that someone was going to ask him about this no answer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now we have many months where he could have thought about something smart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: something community oriented to say something to reach out to the people who are really, really angry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying that giants read it is even a small part of the fan base, but there were some loud people on giants read it about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he had this opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could have just come out in this press, press, and say, hey,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I realized that we had this situation on Pride night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I respect my players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We should have handled that better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We should have handled it better with our fan base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We understand that there are folks in our community who were deeply unsatisfied with our response for Pride night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as long as I'm here, I'm going to make sure that we do better next time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lead with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, OK, I'm going back to the park next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like he's they've learned he has learned what piss people off and he is being a leader in his handle that scenario.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, a simple we're going to fix this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They gave him the opportunity to do something like that and he said, well, you can learn from situations like this and it was like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where's the accountability?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you do wrong?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's the right thing to do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like how are you going to handle this in the future?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The student said nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so like my stance was, I just want to see accountability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has not provided it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they will in some way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I mean, maybe it maybe Buster doesn't think it's his job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it probably isn't from like a marketing perspective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but it is his job from the perspective of he's kind of the face of the team, whether he wants to be or not, he's the most famous person in this organization that is currently running things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I just thought, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had the opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You didn't take it for whatever reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It makes me feel like you haven't learned a damn thing and that you're not thoughtful at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of thinking about how this works for next year for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I stay not going to games even though we're still doing this podcast?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tough one for me because, you know, when we were growing up, but probably in our mid-teens, late teens, we started hearing a lot about, you know, especially with free agency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the biggest one for us is when we lost well-class, the free agency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You hear all the time, baseball is a business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Toss it wasn't, you know, it was, it was a game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was going to the ballpark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was enjoying being at the ballpark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was being around like-minded fans or just out there cheering on your team, watching your team in home when they're on the road, listening to the games on the radio.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feel like what Buster did with the whole Pride Night thing in the middle of the season as well as in the post

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[SPEAKER_01]: just really turned the San Francisco Giants into a business because it was basically the CEO of baseball saying, you know, I don't want to say the wrong thing because that might keep free agents from coming here and if we don't have the right free agents, then we don't put people on the seats and we don't make money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just it turned into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean San Francisco has a city, you know, that city really, you know, targets pride as as a big part of who they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's their identity and to have the club that's sitting right in the middle of it all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to treat it like a business, one of the biggest identities of the city of San Francisco, to then turn it into a business decision is just a terrible, terrible look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even see it as a business decision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually see it as an anti-business decision because part of the allure of San Francisco is the diversity, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are less people that go to those games that look like Buster and the not, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: True, very true, yeah, you look at that park and there are tons of different people going to go into games, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was a little bit more thoughtful, and I don't know if he has that in him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he doesn't want to be the guy who gets quoted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he thinks that if he says something, he's going to become a meme to the magaside of social media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't told us anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't showed us anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I can only guess that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just doesn't want to have to deal with it because he doesn't believe that that is his job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, unfortunately, but, yeah, do you think he feels like it's just gonna go away?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he knows the city, that's where I'm just lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, he's treating this like, maybe if I just skirt around it, it's just gonna go away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not gonna go away because you know what's coming up next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another pride night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's gonna come back full force.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they haven't figured out how they're going to fix the issue by then, it's gonna continue to be a problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just gonna snowball and it's gonna grow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so this presser, there were other things, it wasn't just this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the thing that kind of took me off, but there were other things,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that they did not really have any great quotes or great anecdotes or great answers about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a lot of buster, and if I'm kind of reading between the lines, I don't think he wanted to admit that their decisions were wrong this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he wanted to make it seem like things just didn't go right

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[SPEAKER_00]: and they would have run it back the same way and hope for a different outcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of what I took from his answers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you take from those answers?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I took a little bit of that, but I also took, you know, the, hey, yeah, we underestimated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he literally said, we over estimated what we had in the bullpen, and it didn't pan out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he basically said, the guys we had that we thought we were going to do a job did not do a good job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we need to look at off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to look at the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to look at starting pitching that's kind of, that's kind of what I took from

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a rudderless ship right now and you know how optimistic I am with this giant's club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like every year, I'm very optimistic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am not looking forward to next season unless there are massive changes in the off season because especially after this press or it is a rudderless ship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not a sinking ship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is just rudderless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no, you know, hey, being a Los Angeles Rams fan, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That team started out one and two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even though they're one of the favorites to win the Super Bowl, I still had faith because of strong leadership, strong front office, strong ownership.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After losing 97 games,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and listening to that postgame presser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like we could lose 98 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't feel like this is a team that could even sniff 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that just seems so out of the question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Other things that Buster didn't really answer answer, whether or not they're gonna make changes on the coaching staff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he said they do not expect to make a lot of changes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can't imagine everyone's coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can't imagine that you have the season that you did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And someone is not going to take the blame.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether you want to blame

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[SPEAKER_00]: some stuff on the the pitching coaches um you know from what I could tell like Ron Washington was was additive uh Gary Pettis was additive uh you know they have all of these different coaches including you know some of the tellos friends

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you see Tyler Malley go out and just throw zeroes up on the on the scoreboard the second that they trade him so there I would imagine there's going to be some adjustments there and then he had the opportunity to talk about Harrison Bader and we know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they had issues with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did not, they do not want to pay him for getting injured outside of company time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Buster's answer to that was just.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We expect him to be ready by spring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, so you don't want to pay him and yet he's going to come back to this team like how does that work?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a little bit of that and I get that you know Working with attorneys all day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of get where he's coming from on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's an ongoing

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[SPEAKER_01]: negotiation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got the MLBPA involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got ownership involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got major league baseball involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he probably doesn't want to incriminate and say anything along the lines of, yeah, we don't want him here next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because then all of a sudden, now MLBPA has

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also got the feeling that, yeah, they don't want him back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most likely he's not going to be back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they trust the center of fielders that they have right now in Gilbert and Cox, being a duo over Bader.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think he didn't want to play his cards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he just kept him close to his vest on that one, which I get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, it's almost like a lawsuit and at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, and then we have our head scratching

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to plug my ears I can't do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess the the the one that bothered me the most was was where he said He's like one of the guys or whatever you know he and I'm like hmm, you're not supposed to be one of the guys dude

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he goes, I don't know if you've seen Terminator 2, but there's a scene in there where Arnold's got a shotgun and shoots the guy about 12 times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I guess I could go with the theme of the guy keeps going, but he's made us some sort of jail or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I thought of that scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not even endearing when you're winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the love, the love, it's like a lovable loser quote to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh, you know, I'm, I like being like, you know, so I'm going to give you something quirky so that you, you can still, and I'm like, dude, that, that, that turned me off that and the thing about, you know, just being one of the guys is just completely turned off and, you know, I think I had my ups and downs with him over the season in the beginning when he.

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[SPEAKER_00]: did the thing at spring training where he was pissed off at the athletic beat writers or whatever for getting out ahead and for basically saying that he was coming before he was able to tell his his team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you're you're not you were not born yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You understand how this thing works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was strike one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they were just bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The devil's thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you kind of felt like, okay, like maybe he, you know, Devers, they took him out and he didn't want to come out and they explained it and they worked it out fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then over the last part of the year, they they seemed to be not as terrible when they were working with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of players who should have been in the miners and a lot of players who just frankly I don't think are going to be big leakers any longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He seemed to work with that roster better than the roster of all stars, the $200 million player in field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He seemed to work better with that roster, so it's like, there's a few positives, mostly negatives and I, what I hope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he'll do this, but if I was in his situation, if I was in his shoes, and I rewatched a lot of the press conferences that I did I gave, I would work with the leadership coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would work with somebody to help with my public speaking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would talk to somebody who's done this before about how, how, how, how, how, how, how, how,

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[SPEAKER_00]: how do I want to be perceived and what type of consistency in my communication do I want to give at least to the public?

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[SPEAKER_00]: that brother needs all of that because he just looks like a buffoon and I know he's not a dumb guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why you would want to come across like a dumb guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it takes some of the pressure off of you, but he's I know he's not a dumb guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a successful college baseball coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You cannot, you're not a dumb guy if you can run a program like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would do all of those things if I was him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's probably thinking that he's just being funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not landing though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You lose 97 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody wants to hear your movie or your music references.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you imagine Dave Robertson a post game interview after the Dodgers lose, you know, the other night last night to the Braves, I mean bust out one of those quotes, they'd be like, fans would be like a crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we going to be able to win this series?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'm not sure what's going on here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't sound like leadership, but you know what the worst part of your feeling that way and my feeling that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This guy had access.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the entire season to Bruce Bogey and Dusty Baker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he still came out with that and the post game press or the post season press conference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's where blows my mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was all for giving him a second year and saying, yeah, he's gonna manage an entire second year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was all for it at the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, okay, let's see what he's got a second season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But after that, I just got to feel like, I mean, I'm dead, I feel like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we get 30 games into the season and he's 10 and 20, goodbye at that point, it's time to move on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jace Tinger is your bench coach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That guy has coached in the majors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That guy has been around the bakes for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, he's also had access to Jace Tinger all year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just let Jason take over at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very frustrated because again, I like to see a direction at the end of his season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've always said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can find excitement in an off-season, no matter what team, what my team has done, the previous season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When the whole thing, lose 90 games, I can find something in the off-season to be excited about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if there's no direction and you're rudderless,

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[SPEAKER_01]: then it is really difficult to have that positive energy looking forward to next season for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they understand the damage that this season did to faithful Giants fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, I'm one of the more optimistic ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get honestly, some of it is disguised because they were able to fill that park for a good part of this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will be interested to see what the fervor is for next season if they can still do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they can, then that tells me that this market isn't as reactive as I thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe the market has changed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe fan, fandom and being able to

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[SPEAKER_00]: by tickets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, is is out of the affordable class and is really towards the people who don't really care that much about this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So possible that that is it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We started a segment last week and I want to keep continuing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is the way that we're just going to remember as this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just keep doing it every week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brad came up with the ad a babe and grabbed some pine meat awards for the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the adababe, of course, is something that we want to give a thumbs up to and the grab some pine meat is something that we want to thumbs down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll let you go first and won't you start with your adababe for the week?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, my adababe for the week is the Atlanta Braids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's give it to him because we were very worried going into this into this

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[SPEAKER_01]: segment of the playoffs now that the Dodgers got their buy and here we are heading into them playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Number two seed by the way, let's always mention that they're the number two seed this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not as worried about this team as we were last year's team and you're before, show his bang up, starting pitching's a little bit of a mess, their bullpen is wonky, Edwin Diaz is back, but he had it like an 11-ERA in the during the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I got to give an adabab to the Atlanta Braves for losing the first game and then coming back and basically dominating the second game and shoving it down the Dodgers Throats and making it in a one-one series and putting it up a fight now you're going back to Atlanta.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you could take the two games there in Atlanta, you're done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You move on and you get to play most likely the Mill

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Atlanta Braves and the Milwaukee Brewers and the Brewers are kind of taking care of business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that leads right into your ad debate for the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was, I don't know that I'm impressed by either team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I mean by impressed is I want whoever comes out of this other side of the bracket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to be able to just steam roll the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Dodgers seem to be just propped up and ready to be taken.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Show Hayes does not look great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're pitching is, you know, so, so right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I, I'm just waiting, whoever it is if it's, if the Dodgers are able to come back in the series,

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[SPEAKER_00]: great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the brewers continue to play like they've been playing and winning these games essentially on the margins, great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the braves want to be that team and they just take the Dodgers out like they've done before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it is, I just want to see it happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So mine is, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think San Diego Padre fans were pretty confident that they were going to split that series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had their closer, the best closer in baseball, probably Mason Miller in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know they had to stretch him a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jackson Choreo gets the the base hit to win the game, drive in two runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now Milwaukee is kind of going into San Diego like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, like, you know, we've won two close games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you start winning close games, you kind of believe that you're just going to win all the close games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm interested to see how that series goes kicks up back tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But good on, you know, if you're going to beat Miller, that's legit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not beating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... who's that who's the mariners closer moonios this is not beating moonios this is not beating ryan walker you know this is actually beating a stud and so you know to be able to do that in the clutch in the playoffs when it really really matters i was just very impressed so shut out to uh... churio and you know i also have them on my uh... my fantasy baseball team that's actually a dinosaur league

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he missed the beginning of the season and he played he played pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he played as well as I had hoped Especially from a power standpoint, but He's I have I have him for and I hope to have him for a while because I think he's going to be really really good player

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what about your Grab some pine meat?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, before we do that though, Mason Miller did say I think John Boyne called him out for Tipping pitches and oh interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You went back and looked at the video on Mason Miller goes on crap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was

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[SPEAKER_01]: because you could see on his slider, his hand was stuffed into the glove, but on his fastball, you could actually see almost his entire wrist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just the placement of his hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the fastball, he had a loose grip, the slider, he had the tight grip.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he said obviously, he'll fix that, but it may be too late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It may be a game too late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the the best time to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, you don't want to start tipping pitches in game two of the NLDS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good bad idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all right, we should grab some pine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My grab some pine meat is believe it or not, the giant's brass again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just throwing this in one out there because you know, I kind of like the guy and I want Camilo to evolve to come back even though we've given him crap over the years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still kind of want them to come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But my grabs and pie meat is a giant's brass because they will not commit, which I understand is very early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't commit, there's probably gonna be a lock out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't say you're gonna go ahead and sign somebody, but the way they leaned, and everything they've said since Camilla to all came back and was impressive in two outings, everything they said made it kind of feel like they're leaning the other way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I don't, I don't, I don't really like when, you know, ownership and, and baseball operations plays hardball in free agency, um, when you look at a guy who says, I love San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm happy to be back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know what, that could help him thrive, yeah, um, you know, he could, he could become a different picture than he was when he left us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of things that could go right and and there are things that can go wrong with Camilo, but but the bad Camilo

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[SPEAKER_01]: probably better than 90% of the options we had in the bullpen this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're not going to spend money elsewhere, just like we did in the offseason last year for pitching, I think Camilla Duvalet's $7 million is a pretty decent start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's a huge

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's going to be a back breaker for the rest of this season, but again, we still have to go through negotiations of the CBA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We still have to see our next season brings us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that is my grabs and pie meat for the Giants Brass handleings so far of Camilo Doval's off season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what's interesting about Doval is he has been moody himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The giant's based on how successful he was because you remember there were moments where they would have to take him out of the game and then they moved him around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he wasn't the closer anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, but now he's kind of a grown-up now, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he came to the giant's as such a young player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's the closer of the future or the current time frame, but could he be a nasty guy to get right hitter right handed hitters out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could he develop or continue to improve on, you know, originally when he came up, he was throwing that nasty slider and then he was also throwing that crazy action sinker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you when those are your two pitches that move a lot if you don't have supreme control of them then you end up walking a lot of guys and he that's been his problem as well so not that I have faith in the giants pitching coaching staff to fix him or to improve him at least right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's a live arm and he's had success in the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you think about who which arms they are going to go after in the off season, probably a guy's with a lot of the same profile that that he has, you know, somebody who's been successful in the past and probably didn't have a great, great year last year, I think I would have faith if you have somebody,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and maybe this isn't Vatello or the coaching staff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you have somebody who someone like D'Oval looks at as a guru and hey, brother, you're now 20, how old is he like 26 or 27, I was going to say he's got to be 27 because I think we traded in a way, he was like either 25 or 26, so and that was a season and a half ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it's like, make a break, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're, you're, you're going to, you have this live arm still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're, you're a pro, you need to take care of yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to improve every single off season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is just part of your job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, do the giants provide that for him as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm, I'm intrigued by him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think some of it is also his whether or not he's willing to work for it because when he came up, he didn't have to work for shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was just moved like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now after seven years of studying iPads on what he does, I think that they, you know, he's got to now reinvent a little bit again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's part of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, my, uh, my grab some pine is for one of my favorite guys to pick on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love picking on this dude, uh, and picking on him means that I just get to make fun of him even though he's made hundreds of millions of dollars playing baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His name is none other than Blake, Snell, Blake, Snell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He threw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the Dodgers pay, play, pay, Blake's now a lot of money to essentially get them through the fifth inning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's kind of his job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a fifth inning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Blake's now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three and two thirds innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three hits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Five strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, stop, stop, bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's, that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why did he come out of the game after three and two thirds and things because he walked five guys any through ninety things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of his calling card though, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just going to walk batters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to nibble the corners, but not quite be good on the corners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Blake's now going to throw a great game in these playoffs, probably so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got it in him, but it's these games that have you scratching your head about him because you're like, this guy is so talented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got like, you know, he's got like everything about him just looks like he's he's the stud, but I don't know there's something something missing with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he's not a smart guy or he's not a confident guy or he's, you know, he's got this make up of like every time he gets in trouble, he wants out whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, to throw 47 strikes and 43 balls in 3 and 2 thirds innings, not not great for essentially the guy you depend on to be your number two behind Yamamoto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, Blake, I love it when you fail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy to see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate that that's stupid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look on your face, even when you pitch for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I mean, he's the man through a no hitter for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you know, we were rooting for him then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when Buster says, hey, man, can you pitch this last game of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, now I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, we're not the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: then I'm like, okay, I know who you are and I know you're making up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that will live and infamy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But here's the funny thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you gave, you gave snow the grabs and pine me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost gave him an adaboy or adabab for for going out there and, you know, screwing things up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a first perspective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so the the series is that are currently going on right now

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[SPEAKER_00]: the rays are kind of spank in the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Five to one in at least sixth as of our recording.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The white socks beat the guardians again to go up to O.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's major league baseball's dream ALCS right the Chicago white socks against the Tampa Bay race.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good Lord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have this big of a problem with the seeding as I do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the seedings weird and it's going to always be weird because you've got you got to have the division winners and then you've got to have you know it's just I don't know

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[SPEAKER_01]: The rays were one of the best teams in baseball that this entire season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're showing it right now and they deserve that seed, but yeah, the white socks, winning, or losing the division, and then beating up on the team that won the division over them, because what are they seated?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the guardians are three, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have to be three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that would leave the white socks as four, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because who did the socks just be in the first series?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Try to remember, they beat the disastrous, didn't they?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they did, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted to use them and just demolish them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Houston was the three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, because they won those right there was the other division winner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, I got to see both of those teams used an in Cleveland were both very close to 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you want to even finished under 500 might have been the Astros.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, guardians and white socks were either going to be the division winner and the second seed or this the last wildcard because they're, they're, yeah, so what I would I.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't really, this wasn't really a big deal in the National League, because I think we kind of got the right matchups for the National League.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in the American League, I mean, it clearly, you want the Yankees and the race to be on the opposite sides, because they're probably the two best teams left, and you want them to meet in the LCS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I find a white

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[SPEAKER_00]: the kind of the worst of how things work out and you should have the ability to kind of combat those things in your playoff seating and I just I thought it was kind of a mess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think I think a way to do it might be to, yes, you're one and two seeds get a buy because usually those are going to be the top two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: anything after two in major league baseball in terms of the seeds is kind of a toss up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the one and two usually are the best teams throughout the entire 162 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you took the one and two, give them a buy and then three, four, five and six, yes, you're going to get your division winners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think three four five and six should also be based on records so you get the two division winners in the next two teams in the wildcard with the best records But if those records are better than the division winners, they get a higher seed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you should get

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[SPEAKER_01]: just especially with as many divisions as baseball has and I don't think you should just get a hand at a free cake because you win, you win your division at 80 and 82.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that should be the case but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, it's going to be what happens when you do have as many playoff teams as they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The NBA has to deal with this all the time, but how the NBA combats it is because you have eight teams make it on us on a side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have a team that doesn't have a winning record and and still qualifies, well, they got to play the best team and they're going to get smoked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So look at the out there anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... it would you have any predictions for how this thing is going to go obviously then the one that we're looking the most closely at is dodgers braves they are tied at one uh... going back to at are going to atlanta

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Milwaukee and San Diego goes back San Diego.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Milwaukee up to zero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The the razor probably going to finish this game out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be up to zero on the Yankees and then you have the white socks up to zero on Cleveland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the weird thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could see Cleveland coming back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and winning that series, possibly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Problem is their bats are just dead right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one I could see coming back and winning the series or the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you guys are saying, it's too old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's not over yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I shouldn't say it's too old yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: five to one Tampa Bay or we in the seventh, I think, um, if they win this game, Tampa Bay doesn't, and they're up to, oh, you gotta go back to New York for two games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can tie up those two games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And these are, these are only five gamers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three of five shorter series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You may have to,

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[SPEAKER_00]: use an extra pitcher to, and then it kind of throws off your, your NLCS, but you, or ALCS, NLCS, but you do it and then you figure it out when you get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how these teams usually play these series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's going back to New York is going to make it tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two games, and then you go into Tampa Bay and you can ride the momentum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because there are a ton of Yankee fans,

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[SPEAKER_01]: in Tampa Bay Stadium for this series, the TROP, if they haven't called that anymore, I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there are a lot of Yankees fans there because down there, the Yankees have their affiliate, they also have their spring training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So actually, I don't think they, no, they don't have a minor league affiliate, but they do have a large spring training following down there because when

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[SPEAKER_01]: You retire out of the York in that area you had down Florida because it's nice warm so they got a lot of Yankees fans are so it could be an ugly series for Tampa Bay if they don't close it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, um...

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[SPEAKER_00]: big matchup in Dodgers Braves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Scoobal went, I guess technically Snell would be three because Scoobal and Yamamoto are your top two starters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Snell would be after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in game one, Scoobal goes, game two, Snell goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you got Yamamoto and Chris Sale in game three, that's a giant matchup there for game three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In Atlanta too, so that'll be, that'll be a fun one to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's tomorrow, I believe,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If Bryce Harper had like a, I don't know, a seven-foot tall bat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still don't think he has a slider that he swung at from sale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, God.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think he hit one that was like foul, foul home run by like a foot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then next pitch, the slider, look like he'd never seen a slider in his life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Sioux go ask no judge yet judge not on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mr. May.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can't cannot cannot get back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he play this season?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he played that many games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he didn't play a lot of games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't play it in the first game against those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I love the story of

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we saw with Barry, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Barry had some poor October's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and then in 2002, he put on a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see that for Aaron Judge, too, because it's got a suck to be one of the best players in the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when you get to these small serieses and they're figuring out

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[SPEAKER_00]: ways to pitch around you and to not let you beat them and it's your job to beat them and you kind of get all out of sorts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to see him figure that whole thing out and actually produce and maybe I don't know what the, you know, the Yankees, if they go down to zero, it's going to be tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if they could get to the ALCS, it'd be a nice story for him to be able to come back and participate then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But who knows?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have heard a lot, you know, the season two from Giants fans at, uh, on on message boards and whatnot social media.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, you know, we kind of dodgable a not signing judge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude had a 9.7 war last year, 10.9 the year before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, the year after we would assign him, he would have only only hit 37 homeruns and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, then he goes on the next year to 158 and then 53 and then this year he's been banged up, but you know what, he was two time MVP had we signed him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I so I don't want to jinx the brave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to say that you're not going to beat the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is like jinxing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is really jinxing reverse

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[SPEAKER_00]: But whatever it is, um, braves, podjrays, brewers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm rooting for the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't even care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's just the field in the national leagues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I so bad they want to see the Dodgers go down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then in the other side,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like who's exciting on the other on the other and the other bracket like does do people want to see the raise at me like like we've said, you know, you get to come in arrow play, but Like who want, you know, Jose Ramirez with the Guardians if I had him on my dynasty fantasy team, he did not have the Jose Ramirez kind of season that no, I used to add him to yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the Yankees are the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, just by nature of baseball history, you're like, well, at least we know that you can discuss all of the world series and everything with the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know there are other people who are like anybody but the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, like in thinking of, okay, let's say worst case scenario, the Dodgers make it to the world series again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is the best team suited to beat them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it the race?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yes, because they're sneaky good and they've been doing it fundamentally with pitching and hitting all season long, speed on the base pass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they just kind of have everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if the Dodgers get past the braves and most likely the brew crew,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of the your best chance because the Yankees have to come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they'd have to come back and win three in a row after this disaster white socks, I mean they're young and dumb enough to and I say that in a nice way young and dumb because you don't know you're supposed to be like you're just playing baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love playing baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're kicking ass and we're having a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess they're, you know, a little naive to do it, maybe, um, you know, but it's I've got, I think if either the white socks or the guardians make it to the world series and the Dodgers are there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they probably started laughing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say, I don't even think it'd be worth watching as trying to say even like one pitch of any of those two series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'll be, I'll be in New Orleans for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I will not seek out a TV at the bar just to see what's happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I promise you that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Little shorter show today, but we had to go a little bit later and we still got it in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wish we would know the score in this Yankees game to be kind of complete about it, but we'll know tomorrow and then you're actually coming to town this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to actually able to have dinner with the fans and that's going to be a blast just so just so people know

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then Brad moved and this is how we hang out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've seen each other a handful of times over the years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I went out to Reno and we met up with you guys and you've been back here the last couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now you're supposed to come to your you're supposed to come to Reno this year and then we hit snowstorms from like two weeks and I've posted my room booked and I think we got to figure that went on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so we'll get to hang out and maybe we'll have the next episode, we'll talk about the hanging out and going to the old spaghetti factory with fam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to everyone for hanging out in the chat, enjoyed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you think, Z-Corp Alpha?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Z-Corp Alpha, probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Z-Corp Alpha.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think it's just, yeah, Z-Corp Alpha.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say it's probably either a halo or a, OK, call of duty reference, I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, Sugo hanging out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know who we miss is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's our was our old friend's name or old negative friend?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, gosh, I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he kept he was he uses a cratman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, mad cratman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's his name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we went on too late for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it herokie?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Herokie?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is it, we'll see you when we see you peace out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.