Purdy's Bounce Back: 49ers Dominate Browns with Big Plays & Turnovers | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ron's like our second show in like five and a half days or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're back talking another 49ers win, which was uh, I was very thankful for because after watching the first half, I thought, oh man, the 49ers defensive line is just getting

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jenkins, Judkins, and then the offensive line, I was like, oh, man, this this doesn't boat well because we don't have great luck in Cleveland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I thought in the back of my mind, I was like, you know what, Shannon and Sala are going to figure some things out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're going to win this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's exactly what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of that was also in due part to the Browns turn of all over a bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they exercised the demon of not winning there or not winning in Cleveland since 1984.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And ultimately, a really strong game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You go into Cleveland and you beat a team that you should beat when historically, the last several times that they've played them, that has kind of been the scenario and they haven't come away with the W. So I was really glad to see that today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it was great to see a, you know, they flash that stat on the on the screen and the graphic was bill off walking off the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, that was a cool throwback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hadn't, I can't remember the last time I seen Coach Bill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was a good, that was a good, that was a good old man for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, we got it done, which is all you could ask for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you watched any of that Ohio State Michigan game yesterday, but that's what I was expecting it to be like the first and they talked about weather in that game and in the first half it was just cold, but then the second half it was snowing and crazy and that's what I was my fear was when we were, you know, we're only up by whatever it was with two points or whatever going into the half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that the rain is going to be pouring in the second half and we're going to find a way to you know the that weather is always kind of an equalizer and then you just kind of don't know what's going to happen but it didn't and we were able to make timely plays like you say they helped us with a few miscues and the play calling which I just think

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we've talked enough about on both sides of the ball has just been phenomenal all season and there were a couple of instances in this game where like the the the party run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The class of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: been have just been awesome and yeah yeah and we you know they we got it done it wasn't pretty by any means in the stats we'll bear it out but um you know they got the win they got the win and Cleveland to get that monkey off their back they got the win going into the

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[SPEAKER_01]: pretty much felt was gonna be an ugly game to begin with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't really as close as I thought it would be, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that you talk about that play that they called near near the goal line for Brock to make the decision to keep the ball and go to the left and score.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know and and it kind of shows you a little bit of the difference between the play calling for both teams because there were a couple of moments in the game where the browns were the ones kind of like pounding the niner's pounding and then I said it's like fourth and one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then they even bring in that big old jumbo package where one of their offensive lineman is in the backfield.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Niners defense is just all over it and they stop them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they do another kind of a little bit more gimmicky play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And who's the one who was over center on the gimmick play that they that they fumbled on the fourth down?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm Fanny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, you need that they needed to do that because they knew, okay, it was really hard for us to try and get this from the last time so they wanted to give it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you have the personnel that the 49ers have on offense, you can be way more creative, whereas the Browns, they're starting a bunch of rookies, should or Sanders, we'll talk about him in a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: deal with all of these things happening at once and then they, you know, they're having to be a little bit, they're trying to do some stuff there that they just cannot because they don't have the same great players in the offense at the 49ers have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was a nice, interesting comparison of the two teams, but then you go to the flip side, which is the defense and

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the Browns for, you know, some of that was the field position sky more with the punt return, which was really just set the tone for the 49ers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I know we were a little hard on him earlier in the season, but this dude has been awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This, you know, for the last several games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of wonder, I know the proble isn't the probable anymore, but I wonder if he'll get a couple of votes there for the special teams side of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the Brown's defense was out there battling the Niners were able to get some really good field position, which allowed them to work and really do some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joanne Jennings caught the touchdown, which was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CMC scored a touchdown the first one of the game, and then we mentioned the Brock one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a nice matchup for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They needed to win a game like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because when you win games where you're beaten the cardinals who kind of beat themselves and then you beat the Panthers who kind of beat themselves, they need to take control of a game like they did today to kind of go like, okay, I know we're playing a bunch of bad teams and we're letting them hang in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to kind of give it to one of these teams and they were able to do that today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that going into the buy, this is exactly the kind of game that they needed because as we know coming out of the buy, you've got the Titans which shouldn't

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you got some big ones coming, and they needed the confidence that they could play with those teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought this was like the perfect victory going into the by.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you said, a mouthful when you said, it's, I've been saying this all season about our record and the teams we played.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And look, number one, you can, you can only play who schedule, but you hit it right on the head is there's a way when you're playing bad teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a way that you're supposed to beat bad teams if you're a good team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And quite frankly,

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[SPEAKER_01]: every time this year, there have been times like the Saints are driving to win the game, when we make a play and we win the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, all that matters is the win, but at a certain point, there are style points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you, you need to, you should not be just scraping by the bad teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to thump bad teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to we did that today, they helped

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they make mistakes, that's how it's supposed to look, if they contribute to their demise, then it should not be a close game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was a good job by the Niners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: lots of fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually didn't really understand or I didn't really follow because I was on vacation last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't realize how many of our hardcore 49er fans were calling for the head of one Brock Birdy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even realize how much that was a thing last week until much later after we recorded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was nice for Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to get in there and to play well now it wasn't perfect but that some of it was because he's the man's running for his life on on about half of the the snaps there but I thought he played a very smart game the past to kiddle at the end of the second quarter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was one of the best throws that he's made all season long and that is one of those throws that we are harping on like that's the that's why Brock has to play because those are the throws that are going to help us if if we can beat some of these good teams that's the kind of throw that that is you know the game changer and that was that was a great throw in poor Matt Gay almost missed that fill go I thought people were going to have his head if he missed that one

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, he made smart plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he was, I don't think there was any play where I was like, oh man, like that was actually a bad play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He threw the ball away when he needed to throw it away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did not force it into these tight areas like he's been doing and just I thought he, I thought he was, unless I'm forgetting something, it seemed to be an error-free game for Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it was, you know, in referencing as you just did the ridiculous Mac versus Brock talk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were there were several plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, the one we mentioned at the top of the show as exhibit A is just the difference between what you get from Brock and what you get from Mac.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there are plays that Brock is going to make

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[SPEAKER_01]: The MAC just does not have the athletic ability to make and it changes the way that you were able to pass protect it was clear that there was an edict to move the pocket and get rid of the ball quickly obviously because of the front that they were playing and Brock gives you that sort of flexibility in a way that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, somebody like Mac is just tailor made for Cleveland because they just know where he's going to be and you can't you can't put yourself in a position where they can just line up and rush the pastor versus you and they would they did a great job on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, his best job is you can do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you look, Moscow is one of the greatest defensive players ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's not hyperbole, and he's going to get his and he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, they were able to mitigate the rush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some way, you know, obviously we, I knew, and we talked about last week, you know, there's going to, you know, um, there was going to be somebody in Machivitz's hip pocket, um, all game, and there was, you know, because, you know, and that's no shade on culture, but give it's again, Garrett is one of the greatest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You fit the players ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the fact that he would need help with him is no shade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That man expects himself to get 25 sacks this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good reason and he got, he got Trent, who himself is one of the greatest players ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he got him on a great move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: Overall, he did not wreck the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that obviously coming into the game was, I would imagine that was Kyle's first job was to make sure that he built an offense that did not allow Miles Garrett to wreck the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he didn't, you know, he was disruptive as he normally is in both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: pass and run, but not he did not, you know, it was on the board as talk, you know, on and one of the topics on get up this week is can he break the record today, you know, speaking about Miles Garrett and you know, it's one of those, you know, Greenie was, was saying and that somebody who it's not crazy to think that he could have a five-sat game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not, that's not out of the range of

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[SPEAKER_01]: under, you know, the perfect scenario.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but he was only able to nick us for one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, we will be in the history books, but we won't be, you know, featured in history books.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we would have if he had gotten five sex today and broke the record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, that's also a win, because that's, I don't like being part of that kind of history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think we have a pretty realistic expectation for this team, though, if they get in the playoffs, like

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I want them to play as good as humanly possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, are you worried at all with CMC's inability to shake loose?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he even talked about it in the post game press conference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, you know, it's my job to make some of these big plays and I didn't really make the big ones and that's something I have to fix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, you know, I think it's the thing that I probably see the most when it comes to, you know, if I'm checking Twitter or something and it's I come in, you know, the run game, the the yard's precarious so low and and like my expectation is that when the passing game gets better and when Brock becomes a threat that that will help open some of this stuff up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and you know we're heading into the back the back end of the season here and they still have not really exploded in a big way like they usually do and this was a run a very good run offense historically and they haven't had it this year like they have in the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you worried that this is just who they are at this point whether it's because of

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[SPEAKER_00]: the offensive line or the defenses are just keen on Christian so much and saying, you know what, beat us over the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't think you can do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't think you have the speed in the wide receiver to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, are you worried that this is just kind of what we're what we're going to have to be used to seeing for the rest of this year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, it does not seem for whatever reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The way I had envisioned this year

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[SPEAKER_01]: In this specific case, because obviously the injuries have impacted this team, you know, especially on the defense side, but the way I had thought this season was going to go even before all the injuries, I just felt that without VA, we were going to need to do is we need to go back to 2019 George for George was going to be the X and he was the any anything that we were going to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the deep game was going to be from George.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we got one today, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was seen kind of fluky, you know, was outside the numbers and it was kind of a 50.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just a weird play, you know, he's catching it falling down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was thinking that he was going to be like more of an X guy where he would be attacking the seams and he would be, they'd be throwing him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, nine balls and he would be the guy like he was in 2019 that was the power X player and we just haven't seen that and I don't see any of our receivers being able to fulfill that role which you know giving us a consistent a deep threat that teams have to

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[SPEAKER_01]: really honored.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I just feel like in this offense and offenses like this offense is adjacent to this Kyle Shanahan offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have a deep threat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My brother was talking about just that today when we was watching the Rams and his feeling that they can be they can be got by T if a team has

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[SPEAKER_01]: a good second dairy, they don't really have anybody, you know, obviously Devante Adams is a Hall of Famer, and Puka is really good, but they aren't going to threaten you steep like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have a real burner, and that's where we find ourselves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because in this offense, like you say, it's even more so than the chunk and the deep plays that a deep passing game,

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[SPEAKER_01]: can give you or the threat of a deep passing game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not what you're talking about is how it affects what's available to you in the run game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the intermediate passing game, and we just, we just don't have that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't, like I said, and it doesn't look, it just doesn't look like George is going to be able to give that to us this year for whatever reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've always felt that Ricky Piercele is more of a slot receiver than he is a power X.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to be a guy that you're going to be able to line up outside and he's going to be able to be to the outside corner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just going to round him up and he's going beat him deep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just that's just not his game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he would be somebody who would also benefit and be able to be unlocked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we have, so, but we have a lot of players like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Juan is another one who is unlocked by having, again, BA was perfect for this because he gave you that threat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was perfect for, that's why him and Debo were such a good combination.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got both things, but it doesn't look like, I don't, I hold out no whole for him, plan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: this year and, you know, that's a whole other conversation that we don't have to get into.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, yeah, I think that this is kind of just going to be how we're gonna have to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looks like, you know, Kyle has been doing a great, I think this has probably been one of his best coaching jobs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because week to week, he is able to

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[SPEAKER_01]: figure out a way to get us where we need to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't, again, today it wasn't pretty, but he made some really nice calls against a very good defense that we're able to, you know, it's, it's interesting to watch him and Sala kind of coach series to series and that's just I would think as an opposing play coach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's just not where you want to be is in a city you want to be ahead where you have to these guys have to press you don't want to be like Cleveland was trying to come back against Robert Soler that's just it's a it's a it's a a hard place to be you don't want Kyle being able to call plays

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[SPEAKER_01]: from a position of strength, you want to put them both in a position where they're chasing that they're not being the ones who are able to dictate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I just want to mention Skymore again, because he has been fantastic of late and the punt return to give them the field position

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[SPEAKER_00]: In some cases, the 49ers were able to take advantage of the field position and not have to worry about lengthening these drives and going all the way down the field because to me, just watching it seem like there was a clear

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a clear difference between the Brown's defensive line and the 49ers offensive line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It felt like they were getting pushed around a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so at some point, my worry was like, man,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, we're going to make a mistake here because they're they're they're offensive line has been so physical and then are the defensive line being so so physical and then on the opposite end, I thought the same thing with the offensive language man, they're really pushing us back and then it kind of switched in in the second half, but I think if the Niners had to think about going, you know, 50 yards downfield every time this this game might have been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A 14 to 10 kind of game versus a 26 to 8 game, which is what it ended up being at the Skymore setting the tone really helped them kind of get that first touchdown out of the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there was the punt return by the kid who dropped it that gave the Niners another opportunity after they would they had some pretty good field position after what we thought was going to be a safety it was not it was a face mask and then they they punt and then I just had great position and then they couldn't do anything with it so then that that dropped punt return helped them get in great field position again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're like, man, if those two things didn't happen, this is probably way more of a rock fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought, you know, just having that guy back there, whenever we had a guy in a long time, who you feel like could take it all the way, you know, the 49ers generally haven't had a ton of guys like that, even when I was, you know, as long as I've been watching as little kid and just really hasn't been there strength and to see sky more who,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kansas City kind of left for dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't really take seriously when he signed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just having him come to his own issue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been such a benefit because historically, these last, I don't know how many years the nine or special teams have been so such a negative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is the stand out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He and Piniero have been just been excellent this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is really, instead of giving up three points every game because of our special teams sucking, we're actually getting three points every game

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, he had two good returns this this week and a good that's how you have to, you know, that was my mistake in my criticism of the sky more move is that he never did anything as receiver and Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But obviously that wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: his role I'm sure obviously if he could they would they could use that kind of speed and receiver but him being a good special teams player has had its benefits and you know like you say him and Piero and you know you've there's been a lot of criticism about Nick Martin not playing and you know he should have replaced Curtis Robinson and he was he got hurt

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[SPEAKER_01]: that but I'll bring that up because he has been a standout on special teams as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's important that isn't that that is you know an important part of the team and it's been a weakness of ours over the past several years and it's really been a strength especially these last, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: several weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, like you say, he bailed us out, put us in position to score those points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Special teams put us in position, you know, for two scores.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like you mentioned, also, I think it really changed the score really changed the game script in terms of

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[SPEAKER_01]: how Sala was able to call the game it once they weren't it became clear that they weren't just going to be able to bully us and just give us a steady diet of Jenkins the way they might have been able to if it had been a one score game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Once it was a two-score game and it was clear that whatever was going to happen was going to be Shadour was going to have to do something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just changed the way Salah was able to call the game and make them more aggressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure more aggressive than it seemed like they wanted to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Salah was able to take advantage and was able to be more aggressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: really put some heat on Shidorr and make him, you know, very uncomfortable and created a situation where he couldn't beat us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was a great thing because Jenkins was on his way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he had a good game regardless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think that they could, they were able to lean on the run as much as they might have been in a closer game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Niners didn't have any interceptions unlike on Monday night, but Cleulin Ferrell had two sacks, key on white, had a sack as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ferrell had two cuby hits, white had two, Elliott had one, Huff had one,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they did enough, I guess you could say, to, you know, to help the, to make sure that the Browns, you know, weren't, weren't going to really move the ball when they needed to because it was a run heavy game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when Shadour did throw on the earlier downs, it was to the backs for the most part of throwing screens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when he had to load up on third down, you know, you were able to get something there, which was a positive and, you know, it's nowhere near, you know, they weren't a tear in any way, but I thought they both played pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: when it comes to, you know, again, as we get further down the line, you're going to have to get something with that past rush.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, Bryce Huff, we know he's going to be there, but now if you can get something from Ferrell, who only two weeks ago was not active for one of these games, and then with white, who's is a little bit more acclimated with this defense,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, maybe they're back to average or or something, but it is it was good to see them play fairly well and a key on white made a nice play on on judgekins at one point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just threw the guard off and just trucked him one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was really good to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know that if you do that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can get something from those guys, then you don't have to blitz as much as they were having to blitz earlier in this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm just hopeful that this is a little bit more of the norm and not just because it's against the Browns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought, you know, late in the game, when should do her head to throw, you know, he was kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: having to deal with some stuff, making them think and which wasn't the case earlier in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was pretty good and hopefully white and feral and and huff can actually continue to create something back there for QBs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just give them something to think about because if not, then the poor secondary has just got to, you know, got to be ready, but that overall thought that was pretty positive aspect of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can't wait is not going for me because I've I've looked at his stats and I've looked at his career in New England that dude he looked like he could be so good and even in this game he is physically a gifted player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't understand why he's not better than he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he is that kind of guy who's going to be tantalizing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know for those of us, you know, I'm going to mention the name that is, you know, he can law was another one for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you looked at him,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You looked at him standing on the sideline where you looked at him, you know, I was able to see him a couple of years in training camp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you would see the way he moved and the way you could not understand this guy is an all-pro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is, I mean, he is that kind of talent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you look at the box score week after week after week and it's nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a really key on light looks like that kind of player to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like somebody who has all the talent in the world to be, maybe not an all pro player, but somebody who could be a starting player and be a contributor to a good football team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that he's able to put what that's what I'm looking for for him for the rest of the season is for him to put if he could just put games like this together, where I mean, it's it's not jaw dropping, you know, three tackles, three solo tackles, um, a quarterback hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he could just give you that, if you could count on that from him week to week, oh, he had a sack too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a great move that he made on his sack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be, that's the kind of guy you, you know, that was a good pickup for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they swapped basically just swapped

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[SPEAKER_01]: everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully the light is able to go off like you say for the rest of this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as we move forward, that would be a great pick-up in a season where we had we took a lot of losses on defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be great if they actually were able to find a player this year who we can

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[SPEAKER_01]: who can help us this year, like you say it for sure, but somebody who's able to, he's young, too, and talented.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody who can contribute this year to give us something of some sort of a past rush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then moving forward, when you're able to get

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then hopefully West and Collins are a year more experience that that level of talent in those players I just mentioned that's the makings of a really good defensive line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you you hope that's the case and then like you said I am continually shot that you know it that how they seem to be using Pharaoh who.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is a legitimate run player in the last two of the last three weeks when he's got an opportunity has been the best past rushing that I've seen on me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had two quarterback hits and two sacks today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that for him, who he has made his bones in the league as a run player,

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[SPEAKER_01]: as a past rusher and on a team like this, you know, Bryce Huff is what he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a situational past rusher and he's very good at that, but he is kind of a one-trick pony and teams can scheme against him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But a player like Ferrell,

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[SPEAKER_01]: can play all three downs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, those are, that is the type of player that we really need, you know, this year, clearly, because we don't have Nick, but moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's what we've been looking for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody you could put.

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[SPEAKER_01]: excuse me opposite a Nick who could make plays both in the run game set the edge and also give you something in the past rush game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, I love to see guys like that who's gonna add a tough go as a pro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't ask to be drafted fourth overall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was

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[SPEAKER_01]: above his talent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he wasn't not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't the best defensive lineman on his team in college and he got drafted before Dexter Lawrence did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's clearly better defensive liners, but that's the Raiders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That we can't hold that against Cleo and Fero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he has continued to get better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is better

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was he's better now than he was in his first go around with us, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's really good to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we obviously, we needed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's just the fact that he's gotten the opportunity in a situation where the pressure isn't the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can't discount playing for Robert Sullivan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's like a half a sack away from his career high.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and when he's played, he came to us mid-season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's able to do that in when you bear in mind his first two or three seasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was playing a full

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, compliment of snaps, you know, he was paying six or seven hundred snaps a season and so for him to get to be closing in on that those kind of numbers in a small sample size, that's really young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's been, he's been in active since in his time since he's been back, which is just crazy to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, totally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: any of this stuff that maybe there's a slim chance that Fred Warner could return by the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wouldn't surprise me, but I'm I've been here long enough as you have to know the second half of the story of Jerry Rice coming back from an ACL in whatever it would it was eight months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, if it was a great comeback, but he also got heard again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the thing that worries me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It look, I'm no doctor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the doctors, if his doctors clear him and say he can play, I don't think there's a reason not to play him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, again, if he's clear, he should play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would be very, very careful with that clearance because you don't

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[SPEAKER_01]: if there's any chance that he's in a position to re-injury the same injury because we got obviously playing a collision of sport.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a chance that he could get a completely different injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, a broken bone is different than a ligament tear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of a, I've always

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, my medical degree is, is what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it seems like broken bones are kind of binary, either it's broken or it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's different than a hamstring strain or a ligament tear and healing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, maybe that is different, although I know he had some other things going on other than just

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[SPEAKER_01]: the bone break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I, you know, obviously when you talk about it being a tournament and once you get in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just never know what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That sort of juice boost would be amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even imagine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if it's just a willous re-type situation, where it turns, if any plate, that's a famous scenario of an engine player coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he really didn't do much,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that him running out there gave the team was, um, you know, I can't imagine the juice that those guys would get, if he could even just get out there and play, you know, a third line back a roll in terms of, you know, the emotional thing, but I might, my, my fear, especially, you know, and maybe we can talk about this at something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it with our

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[SPEAKER_01]: training in rehab staff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems to be very below par.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking to somebody's, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: in terms of the B.A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: situation, you guy can blame him if he wouldn't want these quacks running his rehab because you look at guys like I mentioned, Kim Law earlier in AA, Eric Arstett, they have both in the time they've been gone, they don't misgames anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whereas those

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[SPEAKER_01]: They get somewhere else with another organization and their Iron Man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been too, it's, it can't be a coincidence that we like over the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the stat that over, you know, Kyle's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, tenure, we'll lead the league in games miss by, I mean, it's like a by a staggering amount that the power stat between between hours and what the next number two is, it's crazy and I understand that it's a piece of, he plays a physical style of football and apparently his practices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: keyfields prepares his team to play that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that, okay, I can accept that, but it's just, and we've gotten to a point where I did think questions need to be asked as to why if we're going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why, you know, I think you have to marry that with a commitment

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[SPEAKER_01]: being the best in the league at physical therapy and the fact that we don't have or physical rehab, the fact that we don't have some sort of partnership with Stanford University is crazy to me at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's right there and it's one of the foremost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in that kind of sports medicine technology.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just seems like a no-brainer that you'd have some sort of partnership with them to be like a gain figure or a test lab for whatever is the

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[SPEAKER_01]: the the cutting edge of that kind of sports science.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but it seems like we're in the Stone Age when it comes to that because we continue to have misgames and it's, you know, we got three more players out this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a context for a collision sport.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So injuries are going to happen, but it just seems like, you know, especially for the past two or three years

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[SPEAKER_01]: we we have more than off air share.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The uh so just the the thing that about Fred Warner, so shelving, I think thinks like a lot of people think which is they're not a Super Bowl contender this year and the worry would be that he gets hurt again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I agree with that except let's say wild card round.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if Fred Warner is able to play, how do you keep him out of that game?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the fact that the Niners, the Rams and the Seahawks are all more than likely going to be in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are going to be three out of the seven teams if things fall into place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Niners have beaten both of those teams already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Rams just lost to the Panthers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you could talk yourself into

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[SPEAKER_00]: whether we play the Rams or Seattle like we can be both those guys and then it's about Philly well Philly's not doing too great then it's about the bears.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll match up against the bears shortly

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the lions are kind of on the outside looking in the cowboys are on the outside looking in so you could talk yourself into the idea of what you just said which is if you get in you got a shot and i would imagine fretwood feel exactly the same way obviously has to do with his healing whether or not you know the doctor's field that he could further injure himself all of those things matter i'm just saying if he is cleared to play

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[SPEAKER_00]: That team has to think that if they get in, they have a shot because of there's no dominant team in the NFC right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, there's no dominant team in the AFC either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this may be one of those years that we see like a real funky Super Bowl game, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of teams that we would not have penciled in before the season started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I think Philly's like clearly hidden shoulders above everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in years past, you could say the same thing about the chiefs or the paths.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you can say that same thing this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it will be interesting how they play that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, if I was a betting person, I would say that they're not going to play him, but I think it's intriguing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It gives you some hope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are kind of on the fence about this team and you hear that Fred Warner could come back for the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that kind of gives you a little bit of an expectation, and maybe anticipation that, wow, maybe we can't get one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we get one, maybe we can get two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's what sports and perhaps is all about anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, if I were going to play devil's advocate, I would say that, I mean, this would also be the argument of the other slide, too,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the ankle that he broke he had played he played the whole last season apparently with that fracture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now the double's advocate said that if it is it would be and he'd be playing in better shape than he was two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you could also say that well playing on it is

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[SPEAKER_01]: breaking completely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let me, I mean, you can use that set of facts to argue both sides, but yeah, I just have a hard time believing that if he is cleared and they make it to the playoffs, I, I know I wouldn't want to be the guy trying to keep him, you know, you've had to hide his helmet if you don't want it to play because I know he's going to want to be out there and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, you don't I don't know any of these people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you but you watch them and you can into it things from watching them and their body of work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, Robert Salad does not strike me as a voice or reason kind of guy, you know, so, so I don't think he's going to be one saying that if the doctor say you can play, I don't know that he's going to be the one trying to tell Fred not to play so I don't know who the grown up in the room is in that and that scenario, but yeah, it is something to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, work towards, and again, I, I, I know that that would be something that would give this team a lot of juice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If she were to get to a place where he could be active for a playoff game, that that would be unbelievable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then like you said, you know, you take it down like, you know, Philly, they are a talented football team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they are probably still the most talented football team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nothing to believe that there's going to be a switch flipped there, so

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[SPEAKER_01]: Could we go in the Philly and beat Philly?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it would be a towel to ask, but I don't, there's nothing that I've seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you know, who would want that game the most is a QB1?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because that's where his season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this season, you're before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For sure, being a talking about a Brock Perty revenge tour, that would be a great first stop for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, their offense is just their defenses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: unbelievable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that offense, we are at a point in the season where we talk you talked about us in our deep past and game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are just who they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are not they're going to be completely inconsistent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They probably can't run the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They definitely can't run it as well as they did last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they can't do it consistently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't look like they're going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they, if you tell me that as a set of facts, I say I have no reason to believe that Robert Sala could not create a game plan that for 60 minutes is able to stifle that often and give this chant a team a chance to win a football game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, so and you could tip,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any of the top teams in the NFC, you know, you say the rams in the seahaw, I don't love the argument that we beat them before because we beat the rams and then we saw what that second would look like those teams aren't the same teams and we aren't the same teams that we were when we played them, but nevertheless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the fact is that we did beat them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to think that we can't do it again is ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We beat Tampa Bay or did we beat Tampa?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we lost Tampa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We lost Tampa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We lost Tampa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a close game though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Mac was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I can make a case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, you got you listen to me.

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[UNKNOWN]: I'm

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[SPEAKER_01]: loopy, but it's um, I can make the case that we can beat any of these teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, and Fred doesn't do anything but help that, that cause.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I, I hope that we have that conversation all the way up to the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I just, you know, trust that, you know, cooler hands for fail and that he, if

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if there is any long-term risk that we are playing a long game as opposed to, you know, a being short-sighted with, you know, a mass career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, totally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I wish the NFL worked in this way, but if Fred would be like, hey, man, uh, if I suit up, you know, there's got to be some insurance against me getting hurt because I could, I could lose some, some money here if I if I suit it, there's just the way the NFL works.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But um, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh uh you know we're gonna get out here in a second and then probably not have a show next week because the Niners are on a buy we can let's something crazy happens we may be able to circle back but let's go out uh for the next couple weeks until uh we come back after they play the Titans I just I'm just very interested in your thoughts on how Shidore Sanders played because we've been

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, these owners were trying to make a statement or these general managers were trying to make some sort of statement about, you know, we don't like the way that he handles himself or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to kind of tank his draft status.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What overall, what how did you think he played?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it looks like they're going to give him a shot to come back again next week and they're going to see what they have with him as far as the reports I saw after today's game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that everything has to be in place for him to be good and they Cleveland has

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[SPEAKER_01]: some pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that hero fan and kid is a he's a he is a gamer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Judgekins is a star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a a very very good football player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know about the rest of their receivers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Isaiah Bond is interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had some legal issues which is why he didn't get into the template, but he's clearly a talented player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just have not been able to get in joke who going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't seem like Judy is kind of a French number one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a, but I think he is the type of player that needs, a, he's, he is actually what critics of Brock say Brock is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he is good as, I don't think he is as good as Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: critics of Brock say that he is in a perfect situation and he is just the beneficiary of a perfect situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Shidur does need to have the whole thing work around him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, you can say that about most quarterbacks, but I just don't think he has the physical talent, which has always been weird to me, him being, you know, deonson, but he doesn't have

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't have the best arm, but he's a football player and he makes plays and I think that he can be an NFL quarterback, very least, a backup quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think he's an NFL player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he can be one of the best 32 quarterbacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could be a starter in the league, but the situation has to be right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know that the situation in Cleveland is right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't really seem like Savansky really wants him to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't I have no evidence that he bears that kid any, any ill will because I don't you know, the fact that he didn't give the fifth

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, fifth round draft pick, any first team reps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's not an indictment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many best dream, fifth round draft picks and third string quarterbacks get first team reps?

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[SPEAKER_01]: State, they don't, they just don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that he has looked about with as you'd expect somebody who has not had a whole lot of first team reps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He protects the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He clearly knows how to play that I think he deserves to continue to get this opportunity with this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they've seen enough of Dylan Gabriel to know what he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if we give, you know, Shidorah the same look and then you can go into the off season, having a clear picture of what both of those guys are and which of them you think,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is a competitor for next year when you clearly are going to take those two first drafts because and draft another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would think you would that would be I've seen enough of both of them to say that I don't know that I would necessarily be ready to go into the CBIT signing a veteran.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, or drafting someone, I don't know that I'd be willing to say, well, Dylan Gabriel or Shidur Sanders, or the combination of those two, we're just going to go into next season with them and one of them is going to be our starting quarterback because they both,

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[SPEAKER_01]: they have a lot of work to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he was very composed of having all that stuff thrown at him in week two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did the stuff that they asked him to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as you could tell when the night when when they were down and he actually had to throw and then the Niners defensive line was actually, you know, was actually doing some stuff and he was running out the pocket

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's obviously any anyone's going to struggle in that case, but you know, it would it would be nice to see he has all of the makeings of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: game manager right like that kind of who he is and like you said if you if you give him some pieces he could probably win a few football games but they they don't have that yet they they're not they're not anywhere near that like he you know people when you when you think of a quarterback you think of oh how does this guy just make us an overall better team because we are lacking in all these places can he make plays

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shidorah's not that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not somebody who's, you know, he's not a Kurt Warner who just comes out sling in the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's a very directed and it's got to be very focused and it's got to be a balance attack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he drops back 35 times, it's not going to be great for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, like there were some things that I thought he did pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also some things that we're like, okay, how come we're not just stacking the box and forcing these dudes to throw like what's going on here so that that was interesting to me, which they did a little bit more of it in the second half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, well, we are we are done here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back in a couple of weeks after the Niners face Tennessee after the buy nine and four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: got to win probably two more games at least and hopefully if you win three, then you probably can make it done deal and get in the playoffs here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But these other teams aren't making it easy because the Lions, you know, I don't imagine they're just going to go in the tank, they're going to be probably fighting the Niners to the nail to get that last spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see

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[SPEAKER_00]: nice little break for us and for this channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to get I think Brad and I are going to be back tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't verified that yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a whole lot going on in baseball right now, but Brian and I will be back hopefully I think on Wednesday with Golden State hoop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, the no Steph Curry warriors are probably going to get boat race on Tuesday against Oklahoma City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Though Steph's baby bro looks like he's going to finally sign on tomorrow on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he will be back or he will be with the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was with the team earlier this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, the words are, the warriors got to find something there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This whole,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're like, uh, the perennial like 500 team right now, right now, which is not fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're all the, yeah, there's this roller coaster is is, um, there's a rough for me right now watching them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you say, they are that's exactly what they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are what they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are 500 team at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then with the WMBA they are today is actually the deadline day for them to come together for their CBA doesn't sound like that's going to happen so they'll probably push it out again or they'll have some other options, but that is not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: going the way that I had hoped, but I kind of expected it to go this way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Brian and I will be able to talk about it later this week, but, uh, all right, man, we got a week off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rest up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Be well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you're not going to stop watching football next weekend, even though the Niners are boring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you'll still, but you'll still be catching up on stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that's what it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am petrified about that, that Titan's game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just trapped.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are a bad football team, but I am drinking the cool light.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Cam Ward is a very, very good player and that he is right now surrounded with dread, but he's a player and he's gonna get somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that they're gonna go down with just one win and somebody is going to get

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[SPEAKER_01]: bit before the season's over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just hope it's not my team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So willfully we have get rested and have a great by week and come in and focused and ready to finish this season because I think that we've got a very, very challenging end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got that

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[SPEAKER_01]: is a good game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are, I think all of those are good teams that we play afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we, I hope we get rested and we recuperate and get our his right and then we come out ready to close this season out strong because I would, I always prefer to go into the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at, you know, peaking as opposed to stumbling and we have the kind of schedule that it could go either way that you could, you know, we could go in on a winning streak or we could go in on a losing streak that that's it's very easy to it's not, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: believe in that that Tennessee Titans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, like you said, as grams loss, we saw what the Carolina Panthers were a week ago, and Matt Stafford threw a couple of picks, and then all of a sudden, you know, Carolina is in that game, and then at that point, it's the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, those guys get paid too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I just, I

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[SPEAKER_01]: have good energy for the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully that we come out of the buy and we don't take that lowly titan's team for granted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that is it from here for Rod.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am WG, we will see you when we see you piece out.