Giants Postgame Recap vs Diamondbacks: Confronting Historic Poor Play | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to Thompson to Clark Bradnire here on a rare Wednesday post Giants Arizona Diamondbacks at Oracle and we did Record Monday because Monday was a holiday You had something going on yesterday and today was kind of perfect because the Giants had a day game And we can kind of turn this into a post gamer and then was a perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it was a perfect

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, perfect for recording.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if they would have won, they would have been the best case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but they did not win even though they were kind of clearly ahead in this game and then gave it, there's a little bit of giving the game away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I had to dive in back, try to give it back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we didn't take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to talk about this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then we'll talk about a little bit of what happened while we were gone because we last recorded about nine days ago, I took a look at that record because our hopes were diamond backs,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you come home and you have the white socks and, you know, you got to take care of business against the white socks and then you have the diamond backs again and you hope to get two out of three they went to in seven in in that time frame so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are just getting further and further away from what we had hoped, which was like, hey, can we get closer to 500?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, let's forget about this wild card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can how close do you have American weekend?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're just like, nope, we have no intention of doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just, you know, we kind of like being as far away from 500 as possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's going to be funny, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have some August and September meaningless wins and inch themselves back into like 70 something wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, for sure, it's going to be, I mean, that's that's what we do, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's going to be another team, like Cincinnati last year that was just, you know, a putrid team and sneaking into the last wild card spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to be like three games behind them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just kind of how we do things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Haruki is in the chat at Haruku.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you know Haruku has been a viewer and a commenter,

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[SPEAKER_01]: can be very upset, can post in caps, all caps sometimes, very, very, very exclamation points and such.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, in this sense, after watching this game, I can see how fans are infuriated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm at the point of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not surprised when they play poorly because it's just kind of expected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll get to it because this was like the perfect encapsulation of how to play terrible baseball all in one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess let's start out with some of the positives because I thought Trevor McDonald had a pretty decent game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got into some trouble in the sixth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give up a couple runs in the six, but giant set it to O lead, it's not like they had a five O lead any gave it away and and so you go in and you're tied it to and you know the offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Luis Horizon was like, Oh, this guy's going to, you know, this guy's going to make sure this team doesn't lose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he is also part of why they lost later, but he's he's getting a couple hits, he gets thrown in the inside, he gets pissed off screams, you know, not at the pitcher necessarily, but just at the idea that he was getting thrown inside, goes up the middle giant score, couple runs, and it's like, okay, like this is this is good baseball, and at that

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was watching and going like, okay, how do the giants win baseball games?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, pitching in defense and timely hitting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The pitching was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were fielding the baseball properly until they didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, they only had the two runs, but, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: both of those runs came from, you know, some good at bats and there's a couple of, you know, there's a couple of Bryce moments where I was like, man, he just got under this thing and that thing, you know, and a little bit of a better swing and he's hitting this ball over the fence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's like, there's like, okay, like there's like little pieces of this game where I'm like, you know, I could see why I

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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe Buster or Vatelo or someone think that, you know, they have pieces to actually play well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then after the sixth inning, they showed you why they do not and that they cannot because it's just like fellow part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you split this game into like, let's say they played three three inning games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They played the first three in in game very well, second three in in game that, you know, they didn't play terribly, but they gave the game away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then in the last third of this game, it was some of the worst baseball that you could ever ever see from all avenues of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Diamondbacks get there too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This man, filled with this comebacker so poorly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, poorly that his glove was turned at the wrong way to pick up the baseball ever done that in your life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, you have maybe when I was like, hey, that's possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure I did when I was learning to play the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I had to do as knock it down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it really wasn't much to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And instead, glove turned the wrong way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ball just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, ladies, and yeah, I mean, it was, I was like, okay, but but and as a giant fan too, you know that at that point, this is going to lead to something not good for us, because this team cannot overcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: not they can't overcome a mistake and that's kind of the issue right now that let alone two or three mistakes but a mistake and this team is sunk that that's how fine of a line they're walking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I figured with Duane Kipers said but he said something to the effect of like

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[SPEAKER_01]: I should have saw that one coming or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I was like, oh man, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they hit a sacrifice fly, they scored the third run and they're up three to two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The giants in the eighth inning, they actually have some momentum, um, or, or arise, uh, so Adamus doubles, and this is, uh, I mean, it says a double in the book, but the diamond

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel bad for him because the sun was really bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, balls way up in the air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's looking and, you know, he doesn't want this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like he, but no one's going to save him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's on an island.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he does the thing where at least if you fall down, it kind of makes it look like it's like impossible, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He falls down and on his way down, the ball hits him right in the neck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he misses his glove completely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like I've been in some of those moments as like an infielder where ball takes a bad hop and maybe you go to the ground because, you know, it's like, at least I'm diving or something and really what you're just doing is like, you're just trying not to look like an idiot while you miss this ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he looked like a giant idiot by missing this while it's him right in the neck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I first I thought it hit him in the nose and I was like, oh, those dudes injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is scary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was no blood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so they get the runner on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're like, wow, they got a gift here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're about to tie this game up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I sent our text, Jane, with me, you, Brian and JJ, I said, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to run our second one out and your three best hitters are coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Arise, Schmidt, Devours, you have to score this run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You cannot not score this run in this moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right on cue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Arise hits a, it's a, you know, it was a nice little line drive, but you could tell it had some sink on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Adamus could not tell that this ball had some sink on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did not get a good jump on this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I get it because this man has, you know, forgotten how many outs there were on second base before, you know, he's getting chided in the media for talking to the other team while he's on base and maybe losing a little bit of focus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's the story with him right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he's just being super cautious making sure that this ball gets down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say a really good base runner or an excellent base runner kind of reads that ball and knows that he's got to get a better jump.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Damn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's rounding third base, hector, hector Borg is like, brother, you're going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when that ball was fielded and left field, then the camera zooms to where Adamus is touching the bag.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was like, OK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to put the stop side up because he's not scoring unless it's just a terrible throw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he keeps going and I closed my eyes and I put my hands in front of my eyes and I was like, this is, this is not going to be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now the catcher did have to make a nice play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to, it balls in the dirt, he picked it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: blocked the plate at the last minute with the shin guard, a Dalmas slid, shin first right into a shin guard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That did not look like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, that looked like it hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the giants are thwarted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So instead of set, instead of first and third and maybe arise, arise probably possibly gets to second on the throw home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you stuff Casey Schmidt coming up and you still have a divers coming up instead and now it's two outs run around second and if this was a if this was major league and the movie that we love in the script of major league when you're trying to show the failure of a baseball team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The second

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[SPEAKER_01]: The next actual scene is your runner getting picked off at second base and a rise gets picked off at second base end of the inning runner runner on second one out giant stone score at all and then that's all she wrote because the giants rarely get a guy to second base like it was like oh man this is something good and they didn't you know three easy pop ups or flyouts in the ninth and the game is over so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just like a comedy of errors, but it was a great display like if you wanted to show somebody a game, you say this is why the giants are bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This would be a great game to show them because even though they get a jump out 20 your at home, you really need to win this game because you've played so terribly the previous two games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to go back on the road with something

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[SPEAKER_00]: they should have been juiced as all held a win this game and instead it just felt like the same all same all and they lose three two and here we are talking about this really sad you know and that's the thing too is there's probably six games on the season where you could say that at least six right six seven eight nine I don't know count count count count how high you want to go on that but

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Giants play clean baseball in those six games and don't goof it like they did here and there are 500 club and they're not 12 games under 500 So I think I mean that's kind of the difference and and I you know, I don't know, maybe I'm being harsh, but whatever at this point, how can you not be harsh, but instead of playing

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[SPEAKER_00]: Heads up baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I say now this team is playing heads up ass baseball because it's just, I mean, their heads are so far lodged up there in situations like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just kind of feels like again, you can't this team cannot get past one mistake, let alone two or three mistakes in a game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they make that many mistakes in a game, and then they get into a situation, or let's say they have one mistake, then they get into a situation like they were today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With a runner at second base, a gift.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Runner at second base with one out, and your best hitters coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just they're pressing so hard and pushing so hard and I'm going old reference here, but Laurel and Hardy pushing the piano up the staircase get to the very top and it rolls back and rolls over both of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how this game feels for the Giants, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every game you're watching, it's like you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we're almost there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can score the tying run in the eighth, and then a comedy of errors happen where the game just gets away from them, and that's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's demoralizing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure these guys are feeling it in the clubhouse afterwards, too, because even the game yesterday,

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[SPEAKER_00]: against Arizona.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had it also had a two-one lead at one point, but they just can't hold on to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was looking at numbers and pitching an offense and everything else and what's been happening to this club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And since May 1st, and it's just an arbitrary number, I just picked May 1st because we're in May and May is almost over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a month of the season versus a couple months you had before that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the month of May, the Giants offense has gone from before May 1st, where they were almost 30 if or 29th in every category, the big categories that you kind of look at after May 1st, the Giants are 8th in home runs with 30.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're 18th in run score, which they were 30th before May 1st.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Walk percentage exactly the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 7% across the board that's dead last and all over the place WRC plus which is your weighted run creation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's based on your, you know, kind of takes the ball parks elements out of it and everything else and what kind of club you would be average is 100.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The giants were 85, which puts them at 29th before May 1st and since then they're 8th at 102.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The offense has really kind of picked it up since May 1st, but unfortunately the pitch has gone the other way and the Giants pitch has gone kind of middle of the road in most of the major categories and then after May 1st, they've just dropped off in their 24th and fifth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're 25th in K per 9, 26th in walks per 9 and 28th in pitching war at 0.4 since May 1st.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So pitching is falling off, hitting is coming out of the seam is not jelling in one way or the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can't just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that goes to show you too that the pitching cannot carry this team, and the hitting cannot carry this team by themselves, that they have to have their teams like the Dodgers, the Dodgers, if their hitters are going, they can carry that team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can just, you can throw me out there on the mound.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't matter if the offense for the Dodgers is clicking, they're going to score runs and they're going to win ball games with their offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This giant's club really needs a little bit of contribution from both to click the defense as well and just cut back on airs It's a lot to ask.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's it's like saying, you know, this team would be would be great if they were a great team Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just not playing well in almost every aspect The stat that you're talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw some numbers as well about home runs and how they're doing much better hitting a long ball

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they are also getting on base at a historic clip, just a bad historic clip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw something about their on-base percentage would be like the worst in like history of like some long time frame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If it's stayed now, I don't imagine it's going to stay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to have some months where they will get on base better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can hit the home run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In case he Schmidt is doing a fantastic job at hitting the home run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Devours is is hitting the ball a lot better than he then he has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yet, if you don't have anybody on base in front of you, then you're in a lot of solo jacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're in a lot of home runs where, you know, the the like JJ likes to call the William Domus special.

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[SPEAKER_01]: ninth inning down by five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when Adamus is going deep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, you're hitting a lot of a lot of, you know, they still count.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not necessarily meaningless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those have bats get the juice started for an offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you need those, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, there's not getting on base and if you're not getting on base, it's really, really hard to score runs even if you hit the ball out of the park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're on base percentage before May 1st.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of was 29th in the league at 291 now they're 22nd since May 1st.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they've come up a little bit, but that's because of the base hit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has nothing to do with the walks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they, like I said, if they walk more and you can get in, and they're eighth in the league and home runs, if you can get guys on base in front of that, then your pictures are comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not having to, to, to, to again, toe the line, walk the line and be perfect on everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that does stress out pitching as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen that with the giants over the years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, two, 2010, there were a lot of times of giants just were not scoring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They won the World Series, but then weren't scoring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the pitchers had to be perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And luckily, you got Tim Lensigum and Madbum and Matt Caine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you can be perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys can be really, really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Logan Webbs on the I.L.

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[SPEAKER_00]: still, he's coming off, I think, this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, he's going to come back in Colorado, which is not idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, not great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, make your, make your IL, stand first pitching appearance after the IL stand in your in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, it's, it's, it's kind of rough to watch when, when there's a solo jack, like, you know, last night, William Thomas was this all long run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's seven to four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Buster has made in his short stint as running this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's made some bad calls.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the best call he's made was telling Logan Web not to pitch in the WBC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because now I'm not saying that's the reason why Web is hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can't overlook it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's had the worst year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The worst start that he's had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got the bum knee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was one where maybe we should have been like, hey man, like Buster's done this before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He understands what the WBC is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll wait until the next time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Logan wanted a pitch and he deserves the opportunity to, if that is his choice, it's his contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, you know, it's his career, all those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing, it's going back to the pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, when we looked at the bullpen and we looked at the starters, one thing that I noticed was, the giant just let their guys go much further than other teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of that is because they don't really believe in their bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't have these stretchy long guys that they've had in the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you put last year's bullpen at the start of the season with this year's starting staff,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The bullpen could have handled some of the the innings and probably overall the staff would be better, but they don't have that, you know, they put Eric Miller in and it's like

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to you don't have to tell me you know what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can tell you what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just not he is not not had a good year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know he's been hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb Killian and Keaton win are going to end up like I don't know a lot of games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's almost like those are the only two right handed arms that he trusts and then you have Matt Gage who had kind of sort of had been you know they're lefty and maybe a little specialized you're like, okay, maybe we got something here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he's been a little exposed of late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have now you have when the book, when you need the book and to kind of step up because you have Tyler Malley who might be the single worst starting picture in all of the bigs and you have Adrian house or who the giant you're going to be stuck with because the game a two year deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those guys are not picking up at the back end and then Logan Web is out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like

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[SPEAKER_01]: robby rain in land in roof you guys got to be perfect or you're losing and these are the winnable games because of who's on the mound and it just feels so dire and I think it's going to be like that unless they figure something out now you and I are not

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[SPEAKER_01]: big fans of Tyler Malay right now, and I don't want to wish harm on anybody's career, but would you rather see Tyler Malay get those starts or would you rather see Carson Wizz and Hunt get those starts?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not even a question at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather see Wizz and Hunt and rather see McDonald, I mean, and that's the thing too, is we're not going to be with Robbie Ray next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and this team is 12 games under 500, so I think it's time you start looking to move Robbie Ray.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Couple starts ago would have been better because there's last two starts have kind of been stinkers, so you're not going to get a whole lot for them, but I think they don't need to start looking at moving Robbie Ray because you need to get Trevor McDonough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, you got to get Trevor McDonald, you got to get wizard hunt in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are going to probably be your guys in the rotation next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, I, I, I, I'd much rather see that in need of again, no harm in, in, in, in Mali's career, but you DFA and somebody's going to grab them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because there's there are teams out there that are not very good that just need an innings eater or placeholder for the next few months because they've got young guys too that are still working things out in the miners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to find a job that's the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We also said a lot about this about Justin Verlander last year as well about this point in the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's time for him to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, he turned his season around and was phenomenal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the giants just weren't scoring runs for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's an offense problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, it's Tyler Malley, Justin Verlander.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, you know, I'm all for the youth movement at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again,

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[SPEAKER_00]: 12 games under 500 is not five games under 500.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's May 27th and it's 12 games under 500.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I am great and I said we may not see Luis arise past June 1st.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still here, but again, I wouldn't be shocked if he's gone and and then you've got

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Casey Schmidt plane second base as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think moves are going to start happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to go to Colorado and your offense is going to wake up even more than they are right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just the way it is, but your pitching is going to get exposed even more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just going to be kind of rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you are you've been of the opinion that arises is not long for this team and I get it because he could be a starting second baseman on a team that is competing I would not deal him unless you get knocked over with the offer because

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[SPEAKER_01]: somebody on this team has to be a professional baseball player and be a good model for the younger players like that dude's a gamer that dude takes every single at bat seriously now he had the blunder in uh getting picked out i i i i i i i didn't really look back at i have no idea what he was looking at he's not trying to still third in that moment so he was no no you know what at whatever it was if you know he just lost the train of thought or whatever

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also, he has had such an improved year defensively.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that you want to reward that as well because if somebody does trade for him, they may not want him to play second or they may already have a second basement, then maybe he's a DH for that team and, you know, I think he proved with this these first couple of months with the season with the giants that he can actually play there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, you know, he's got, we're still only, you know, 60 games in or whatever, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he proved that he could still hang there and I think it's going to be good for his career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was probably a little bit of a wake-up call for him when teams were like, nope, we don't think you can do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the judge will like, look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to give you a shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got Washington and, you know, he's going to help you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's been it's been great now, you know, then you deal him and, you know, who knows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see him stick around if only for the idea that, you know, I think he's a, he's really the only guy they have right now who consistently puts bat on ball and can consistently get on base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you take him out of that and you just have worse of what you're seeing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I understand the

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, dependable everyday opportunities at second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do understand that my preference and this is going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Haruka is going to agree with me here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish they could trade Chapman because Chapman is going to help a good team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, if the giants were a good team,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chapman would be beneficial to them on a bad team with no with a little very little offense Chapman is a career like 235 hitter who hits 20 home runs 25 home runs and plays gold glove caliber third base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Casey Schmidt may not play gold glove caliber third base, but I think you can play good enough third base and if he continues to hit the way that he's

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[SPEAKER_01]: Plug a man man and if you can get something for Chapman I don't know what you can get for Chapman because he makes a lot of money It may be you may have to take some of that some of his salary still in order to get a team to take him and if that's the case It may be it's just who knows if it's worth it or not, but You know, I would look at him as being such a value to a really good baseball team and you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe

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[SPEAKER_01]: that if he gets traded to a really good baseball team, he probably ends up having a good season, because he's got to be frustrated, like at, you know, just with the way the team's playing, you know, he's he's a veteran, he's a, he's an all star, he's a guy who is a gamer, and he's probably so frustrated with how this team plays, and some of it is him too, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just he's finally

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's probably more frustrated himself than he is with the rest of the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He seems like that type of guy from everything we've read and interviews we've heard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm sure he's really irritated with how he's playing himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I think that could be a nice little thing for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, if I thought the giants were going to be competitive next year or the year after,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say, yeah, let's figure out a way to keep him on the club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, you know, you know, the saddest thing about this team is they are actually trying to win games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not trying to tank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they were trying to tank and they were losing these games, it's a little bit easier to swallow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are trying to win and they play worse than some of these teams who are actively trying to lose or maybe just not, you know, don't have the pieces to try and go and win some of these games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the angels are, I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: example of, you know, maybe the worst team based on the giants are not, but they're not, they're, they're closer to the angels than they are to the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's easily said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, you know, I don't, and, and when you come to the blame pie, you know, we taught we've talked about this before the blame pie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much of this is really on Vitello like he's a goofball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure he's got a lot of answers But this is a roster thing more than it is a manager thing and you know, because I have people reaching out to me going like what are they going to do with the Vitello is he is he just going to they're going to let him go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like why would they let him go?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope Buster Posey quits his job before I hope Vatello quits his job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because Vatello's fault that this roster is the way that it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so that being said, and I see this a lot too, where people, you know, a lot of comments had been like, oh, Bob Melvin wasn't the problem, obviously, but they fired him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I personally think, I'm not sure what you think, but I personally think Bob Melvin was a little bit of that last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And mainly because I didn't agree necessarily with a lot of his pitching decisions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't agree with how long he left some relievers in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't know if he had the personality for as young as the club was starting to become.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I like Vitalo in that position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I really enjoy that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I like him there because I know what's coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the thing, his giant fans know what's coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The young guys are coming, they're coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so I'm fine with Vitalo being there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's, I don't think he's the issue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you looking at this draft, have you started to do any research on the upcoming draft and the process, you know, the, the possible draft picks that this giant sit in the fourth spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I, I haven't yet because I haven't really dove into what, what's the number one overall pick, Chalowski.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we've seen the rumblings at the Giants have the pool money to be able to maybe convince him to not sign with whoever drafts him first and then let him fall down to the Giants because they're going to offer him way more money than anybody else can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: spoke with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so Brandon Crawford is better at, you know, getting the deal done, then Richard really up by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I guarantee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I bet you're really probably just went in there and said, you know, I'm originally from New York.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I like San Francisco, and that was probably it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, at least Brandon Crawford can kind of lead into a, because didn't, didn't Brandon Crawford play at UCLA, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this kid played at UCLA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's the connection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got UCLA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean that that's like the perfect spokesperson to convince him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, how do you convince a short stop to some of the giants when the giants have 876 short stops already in the minor league system?

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[SPEAKER_01]: the other thing is you basically have to turn away the other three teams who are in front of you and basically piss them off and say, don't draft me because I'm not I'm asking for too much money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so is he going to do that just to sign with the giants?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that sounds a little little.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, in about that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah, because then at some point you have to, he's going to have to cave because let's say the first team, but I want to look at the draft order because I keep saying the first team and I believe it's not Colorado, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it's the white socks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it goes

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if he can convince the white socks to pass on him, you probably can can convince Tampa Bay because they're not gonna wanna pay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Tampa Bay, they're not gonna pay him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The twins, on the other hand, might wanna pay him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So at that point, the twins could say, well, screw that, we're drafting you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they draft him, and now the choice is to sign with the twins or sit out an entire season

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's ideal, so you know, it is a hard, it's a hard move to try to get him to fall down to number four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're buster, he's probably like, it's kind of what I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he scared away that Tim Beckham or whatever that guy's name was was the number one pick because Tampa was like, Buster gonna ask us for too much money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, so yeah, I mean, it's it's all doable, but yeah, I haven't really been diving into it yet because again, it's one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same with the NFL draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I usually do is I kind of look at some of the players and everything, but I have no idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then after, you know, being a Rams fan, sorry, Giants fans, but when the Rams draft a player, then I dive in, then I start going to the highlights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I look at everything else and what did we get?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because obviously, I have no say in the process.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not drafting these guys, but after we draft them, I want to welcome them to the team by knowing as a fan as much as I can about these players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, where we uh, I know you have somewhere to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So um, we will, we will, uh, wrap this thing up in a second, but before we do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've got 10 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you got 10 minutes, but I kind of want to get this thing, uh, get this thing move in towards the finish here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, the rest of this this week or in and next week, because the schedule, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are dealing with, like you said, the Rockies on the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, as welcoming as that park is from an offensive standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, from a pitching standpoint, it is sat times as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, and we'll talk about this next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a rough week of baseball for the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Four with the Brewers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and three with the cubbies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you all on the road, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, all on the road.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the brewers are 33 and 20.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They currently are, you know, last year they were also one of the best teams in baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're, you know, they're not as on fire necessarily as they were last year, but they're becoming like one of those teams where you're just like, I just expect them to be good because of how they run their org.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The cubs were hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They started a season hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've lost 10 games in a row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunate for the Chicago fans because

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the cubs, everything has to be drastic with the cubs and they were right, they were in first place and I don't know how you get on a 10 game losing streak when you are such a good baseball team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that may vote well for the giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They may take their frustrations out on the giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of more what I think is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so yeah, it's a tough, tough road trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: NL Central, every single team in the NL Central is at least three games over 500 the giants currently sit 12 games under 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, we kind of like to do this thing where we're like, how do you predict, you know, the net now, this is just the, the rocky series that we have to worry about until we talk again next week, but, man, you know, I'm at this point where I kind of expect, even though the Rockies are worse than us, even in all the categories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we are hopefully getting one and I'm not confident that they're going to get a second game there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just funky stuff happens in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, all of a sudden, Tony Vatello gives a hell of a pregame speech or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They should hit the hell out of the base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm fine with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that that happens and they sweep three and they come back and they got a little bit of juice in them and to face those two good baseball teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a feeling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have a good sense of this team outside of you know that they're not going to play clean baseball so they have to hit to overcome it and then they often don't hit to overcome it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Bryce Eldridge might have a fantastic series in college.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he may, he may end up leaving Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What does he have one home run to season?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Should have been two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a ball that was hit that would have been a home run and every other park except for Oracle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And his agent texted up and it was like, your first Oracle job or whatever, yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It happened to Devers twice this week too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he could go to Colorado with one home run and leave there with six home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know, yeah, he's hitting against left, he's, you know, he's had to maybe he's yesterday he get hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, a double and that bomb that that should have gone over the fence against the lefties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, since the weekend, when all the complaints were happening on the off-day on Thursday, and then the giants came back to play on Friday, for their series against the white socks, he's played in five of the six games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, started five of the six games, sure, and I say,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a positive, and he should really, I mean, if Vitalo's smart, he's going to put him in all three games in Colorado, three games or four games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: three, three games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so yeah, so he should play in all three games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, if there's anybody you want to get going, that's the guy, him and Chapman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, if Chapman can hit one or two out in Colorado, it happened to Willy it on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last year, went into Colorado, came out of Colorado and was on a monster tear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it gives you confidence, you hit the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you say, yeah, I was in Colorado, I hit a home run, but it still gives you that stroke feel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: off-day tomorrow and then they have the three gamers starts on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we will be back early next week and hopefully we'll be able to talk about some good baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, we were not able to talk about that this week, say only one two games since the last time we recorded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, I don't even know what I want to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, yeah, I think Casey Schmidt, you know, we talked about this also in our chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of the only guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, every, there's got to be a player in the All-Star game, at least one from every team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's the only one, and I don't even know who the alternate would be for the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, like, maybe?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, all right, I mean, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I guess managers would reward him, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, managers like that type of player fans don't really necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when the giant signed him, I think 70% of the giant's fan base was pissed off that they signed a ride.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I was excited because I love that kind of baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see a 330 hitter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I find with that is a guy who gets on base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what's important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he and Schmidt are the only guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who have an on-base percentage of over 330 to who are pretty much every day players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we didn't even talk about Ramos, Ramos is out because he's got a quad injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's something he's going to be out for a little while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that sucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, he hasn't been having a fantastic season, but he's having a better season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: then, you know, so far, then Devers and Adamus and Junghu and Chapman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's maybe a little disappointing, but still was having a better season than all of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Harrison Bader is hitting a whole bucks 67 by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: though if you if you if you hit him with the bases loaded he's sitting like a bousin yeah yeah just get yeah just get that's where the walks come in get the bases loaded in front of bader and we're good to go just what every time the bases are loaded has Rodriguez been playing a lot I haven't really know he's he's been in the outfield I mean there was that one game he was in the outfield with Barracoto and it was like oh good Lord

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but that was kind of a rough one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like man, but but no, he hasn't been playing a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Suesac has been catching quite a bit, but he's he's not hitting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's putting the bat on the ball, though, that's the nice thing and he is making contact and he is he is hitting a ball hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hits will start to fall again for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still have zero regrets on the Patrick Bailey trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really don't You know because again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know Patrick Bailey hit a home run In Cleveland, but he hits hits three four a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, he's got two right now So it's about ready's on pace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, all right We're gonna let you get out of here so you can get to the thing that you got to do and well first is your birthday

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's birthday week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Carl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The big five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome to the club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's on club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything starts to break down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get planter fashion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is hip starts to hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all of those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have to hit you up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this vaccine and what about like what am I supposed to be doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause you're a couple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're a couple in front of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, you've got you've got this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't ask to be coming up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I already did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had already did that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I think they changed that to 45 now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they got that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got the shingles vaccine, which is a fun one, but you don't from everything I've heard because Buster Posey added.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You do not want to have shingles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So much rather have the vaccine and the side effects from the vaccine, then Asian will Clark, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then have the shingles itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'm having a little shindig on Saturday and that'll be a lot of fun and it's it's it's an event and it's a thing and then it'll be done with and I can move on and worry about 51 I think it's a little bit of a mind thing and

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just because of that number, but then I'm like, yeah, yeah, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, you know, it's one of the, I did mine in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We went to, we went to the Sanatra restaurant on my 50th and Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was, and my birthdays of the middle of July.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was 115 every day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, it was insane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, you're going to have blast this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to send you some wishes on tomorrow, but also on the party.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to come down and start thinking this or we can get down there and everything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get to the spirit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're getting together this summer at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully,

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[SPEAKER_01]: are at the weekend is a little bit better than this last nine games or whatever of giant space ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to ever see them lose, but they sure as heck kind of deserve, they deserve to lose this one unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, no, they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can say that for quite a few of the games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all right, for Brad, I'm WG, we will see you when we see you piece out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peace.