2026 MLB Preview: Is Wily Adames the Giants’ MVP? Ohtani & Sasaki Updates | Giants Vs. Dodgers

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is Giants vs. Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Draven is here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're probably gloating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The world champion, Draven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get a right, please.

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[SPEAKER_03]: as the beginning of the baseball season is upon us.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Brad is in Disneyland, Brad will be back next week, but I have a perfect opportunity to bring Draven in and we can talk about our favorite teams here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about the giants and their start.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll talk about the Dodgers and how we think they're going to do, though, actually let's start with this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This was going to be one of my questions to you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I saw what Bill Plasky wrote the other day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if that was today or not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But he basically said that he does not think the Dodgers are going to three-peat, and he's actually choosing against them to win the world series this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What is the temperature with Dodgers fans right now?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Is it like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're the best team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to steam roll.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Or is it like, oh man, three peating is really hard, like everything kind of has to fall right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, I worry, we're, we're, we're like the Dodgers compass sit right now at the beginning of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's a difficult question to answer being in this city, because there's a lot of controversy with the Dodgers, so that's kind of been the focus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they have connections to ICE and that's been a big topic of conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we've talked about it in previous episodes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, a lot of the fans right now at a crossroads and, you know, their ethics are being tested.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We find ourselves in this state of constantly defending our team, because not only are we defending it locally, because there's a lot of communities that want to boycott Dodgers here in LA, but also nationally, and to certainly be internationally, because

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[SPEAKER_01]: The icing is not a part of the overall picture internationally or out of the city, but the fact that they are kind of like the bullies, right, they're the heels of Major League Baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a big part of the storyline going into the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we find as the families we find ourselves defending the team in many different ways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whether it's from like ice and battle situation, or is from the idea that, you know, the daughters have, you know, an ATM, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they could just spend as much as they want, which is not true, but that's the narrative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now we find ourselves defending the team that's supposed to win it all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's very unfair because I feel like whenever you get to the major league level, especially if there's a quote on

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's pretty, you know, there's parity everywhere, like you're at a meal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a major league bulk player, you come in with a certain level of skill, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is a major league level of skill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to me, it's like if you're paying for the athletics or you're paying for the Dodgers, you know, of course there's gonna be an advantage that the Dodgers have the tip-y top guys, but it's not this huge disadvantage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we saw that last year when the Dodgers didn't even have the best record in baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and they had to go through the wild car wrong so that there's a there's this narrative that you know where this big like Goliath and I don't think that's true at all and we've seen it in the last couple of seasons there's been We thought of scrap for the championship both years and some people really didn't say we have look on our side if you see both the Part of World War series turned out

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's just a lot of defending the team, and what everyone kind of defending the team, it seems like opening big kind of snuck up on us, because all of us, and the excitement level isn't really there as it should be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: also a little early right if it feels like the like a couple and like a week early like I feel like next week I'll be really dialed in and excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does and also I think people are still coming down from the WBC, which I think got over phenomenally this year, more so than any other year, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not being followed in baseball pretty in death since the WBC started and this year it really got over and that's approximately baseball because they knew how to market it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They made it kind of this like like almost like a patriotic stance with your particular country, which is always been like that, but I feel like this year you got ramp up even more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe because of our politics, it felt that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've had, you know, uh, who's the one that said that it was better than playing in the world series?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Aaron judge was the biggest disappointment on team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, he was, but, but, but he's the one that said it was better than.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, he wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was going to say somebody who said that hasn't played in the world series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, he hasn't been successful very much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you say it took a lot of heat, a lot of heat from everyone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were saying that they weren't really invested.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's really unfair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That to me, that's really unfair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Bryce Harper was right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, no, actually Aaron Judge was the one that said, you know, we were not as bombastic as some of the other teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were not as like, you know, they were not showing their emotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you know what it's funny because I think it's a cultural thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Collective is groups which are primarily Latino.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We tend to really show our emotion, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's even a stereotype.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We tend to really leave it out there in the field whereas individualistic cultures, like American culture would be, they're more reserved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to show a lot of that emotion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think we saw that play out in the WBC and the media and the fans,

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[SPEAKER_01]: unfairly sold, you know, got on TV USA for that for not showing their emotion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we have 14 USA.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The world series is still a bigger reward or achievement just because of how major league baseball works, but also think about

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[SPEAKER_03]: Who's the, the 30th man on Team USA, it might be like Nolan McLean, who's so young.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he hasn't really made a ton of money, but still he probably, he probably makes like $200,000.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then look at the 30th guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: on the Dominican team or on the Cuban team or on the is Israeli team, those who are not major leaders because a lot of those guys are also major leaders, but to those guys of course, man, like, you know, having being that close and winning whatever the stipend was for

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[SPEAKER_03]: winning the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, that's a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I loved it because, yeah, the TMI OSA is a little too conservative and a little too, you know, you're not seeing, like, junior, coming, uh, Kevin Arrow, like, pimping the hell out of a home run.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not, you're not, you're not going to see that on TMI USA.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But,

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[SPEAKER_03]: they could do other things just seeing how the dugouts react right to when when Venezuelan when it was swarr as I think he would that double like you saw like a whole team run out of the dugout as if like they just won the game and that was exciting that's what made that thing if it was a bunch of team USA's playing against each other would not be all that interesting it's those

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's those countries and their teams that make this thing super interesting and you know, it's kind of hoping that Italy was going to win because I kind of figured that Venezuela was the better team, but I wanted to see Italy because.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We had the meathead manager, Mark Terosa, who didn't really understand how all the stuff work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he kind of screwed up the first Italy game by running out his B squad out there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they took advantage of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they were probably kind of offended, like when, like, hmm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He knows the fiber acres.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Why is he not playing his best guys?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I wanted to see if he could fix that and beat Italy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I just figured Venezuela was going to be the better team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the team USA's like the team that I'm sure they thought was the best team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If it wasn't going to be Japan, it was going to be Dominican Republic and they beat them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: the game before the fight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they had the best team in the WBC, the Dominican Republic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it would seem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it goes to show you, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not always the on paper thing that gets you the win.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's why these not these.

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[SPEAKER_03]: winner take all kind of games are fun, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Cause, you know, in the world series, if it's the U.S. and Venezuela, you're like, okay, like we lost game one, we still got six more to go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And like here, nope, it's wanted to win or take all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that was really fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Going back to your thing about the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I saw this with the warriors.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The warriors won the championship in 2015.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then they lost in 2016.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Then they came back in 2017, 2018.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they were well on their way for 2019.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And just the toll of the post season just took over.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And there are two of their best three players get full year-long injuries in the finals against Toronto Raptors.

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[SPEAKER_03]: the other part of just being able to three-peat to go back to back to back is being able to stay healthy and you guys always kind of make fun of it when I when I chitchat with you about you know the starting pitching and how you guys need like 20 starters because everyone's gonna get hurt but the fact of the matter is

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[SPEAKER_03]: is because you guys have had to do that, you also know how to do that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know how to keep your starting pitching above water because you're constantly having to manipulate things or I know you don't like this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dave Robertson, you know, that bullpin game, we don't care about this one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll win the next two, that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so my game says not something that I'm comfortable with.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But to that extent, it has worked.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think,

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[SPEAKER_03]: to go the third, the third year in a row, some, there's gonna be some luck involved because that is also part of it, which is certain guys get hot and at certain times and certain guys, you know, are our favorite guy, Blake Snell.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's not someone that you're necessarily going to count on, but they are, he's already out, he's not, he's injured right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me stop you right now, cause I'm very upset at Blake's now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's not even just Blake's now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's represented, he's a representation of the modern-aged picture, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What I consider somewhat entitled, you know, making more money for less work compared to this, you know, previous generations and this idea that if you can't give 100% you shouldn't give 90%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the philosophy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Blake's now is different because first of all, he's not the most personable guy locally and you've got with him a couple years ago, but so with the media he comes up as very standoffish the guy takes zero accountability when he's when he gets bomb done and they want to interview him, he blames everybody except himself like he's deeply like it's very frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially when you have guys in the clubhouse, we have a lot of humility for them out there and they'll say, you know, it's on me and how I would prove next time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When he got bummed down in the game one of the work in the blue jays, he said, they were all lucky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, they're all lucky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And pissing off the blue jays and everyone pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But my point is, here's the go to say, I cannot start my pitching program because I went deep into October.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got, he's about three to four locker rooms away from Yamamoto, okay, and that's my surround side turn on, I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so to me, it's like the goal of this guy to tell the media that he cannot start his pitching program because he pitched deep into October when the guy, you know, a couple locker rooms from him had Jala as an arm, he has to arm was Jala pretty much, and there he has started in game one in a couple of days, you know, and he went to go pitch

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what means like, how do you, you know, how do you see your teammate in the eye when you do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Blake's now is one of those guys that he likes to play his video games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he did off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He played video games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, he has a whole stream of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He likes to rap from time to time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, okay, well, he's already out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So here we are, we're already starting minus one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, Dan was his, his, his, his, his, Compagrary, uh, glass knowledge is right, is he's, he, I'm, you know, it's the over under.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When is he gonna go out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he has a pitch that competes and I think ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, um, and so, and so, yeah, so we got two pictures that are iffy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so we got M machine to start for us now for now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so Robbers has to cover for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's got to he's got to strategize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so he has him, the M machine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he, and he got to Roblesky, who's a long reliever, who also could start in the open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, and then the other question mark is Roki Sasaki, who didn't have the greatest spring training outings.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, let's put a pin on him because I want to have a deeper conversation about okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little nervous and too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little nervous.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that was actually you actually made my point for me, which was going to be, you can carry a Blake's smell because you have a Yamamoto,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, Tony, who's like, you know, my elbows have fallen off two times already.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let's make it three because I just want to dominate.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just want to be the best player in the history of baseball.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so he's out there, he pitched one spring training game against the giants, and like they couldn't touch him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's just like, hey, I'm going to hit Grand Slam's the WBC.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to come back and it was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No hit inings in spring training and I'm ready now because you know he's you you have to you do have to carry an extra starter Just because he's not gonna be in the in the rotation every five days like we got we got a six Mammotation, yeah, but you guys can balance that because you have these arms and the guy that you mentioned she and I picked him up on one of my fantasy baseball teams just because of the idea of like hey

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[SPEAKER_03]: At when somebody kind of falls out, which smell and glass now and other guys may have to fall out, you can slide him in and I think he's going to give you guys pretty good innings.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's put a pin in the Dodgers for a second and we'll come back because I have some other questions for you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But let's open up a giant's conversation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know you're curious about

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[SPEAKER_03]: kind of have what what my thoughts because the last two years in a row I picked them to be 81 and 81 like that was just like yeah and no but that seems to be their gimmick though until they're not until they play better than 500 baseball that's what I've picked for them but I do feel a little different this year and I'm I'm not sure if

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[SPEAKER_03]: It is like, I'm not generally an optimistic giants fan necessarily, but for some reason, I have a little bit of optimism, but I'm not head over heels with this roster yet, but I do think there are some things that are in place that if they pay off, they could be very helpful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I do think that they're gonna be slightly better and probably,

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[SPEAKER_03]: get to one of those final wildcards in the national league this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That is my hunch versus my last two years of building a little bit more pessimistic with this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm looking, this is going to be, this is going to be the Janice first, like four year with whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see how that looks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a new manager, you know, which like you said he's a raw rock guy, which is a little concerning, especially with somebody like

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully not for me because I'm like the giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to be a monster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But hopefully they click.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, what do you think of the rotation of the starting pitch rotation, the projected five or six or whatever?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's really like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: do you remember the old when we were kind of growing up in the they would say about uh Warren spawn thinks Warren spawn and Johnny saying I think was the guy's name but they would say with the braves it was spawn and saying and then pray for rain because they didn't have anybody else in their stands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so web and rain is what you're saying.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I almost wonder if it's just web like I think

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[SPEAKER_03]: But he was he had a really good first half and then he fell off, but he was also coming off Tommy John.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So this is his second year off of that surgery.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So hopefully he could sustain and keep some consistency in second half.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm comfortable with him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But Logan Webb kind of gives you that, like, okay, he's going seven bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You don't really got to worry about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's going seven no matter what.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We can prepare for the next game, but Logan's going to give us a chance to win this game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's really the only guy that I'm super comfortable with.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now they have two new guys, Tyler Molly and Adrian Hauser.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And those two guys, we have no idea who these guys are as far as being giants because they didn't really throw that much in the spring and the whole thing is like we're going to lock them in as three and four and hope for the best and I don't like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would rather.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would rather see a little bit on paper from them to really feel confident, but that's kind of how they position these guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like they're just going to be probably similar to what you said about Blake's now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're only job.

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[SPEAKER_03]: is to go five endings really.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's like, oh my gosh, you know, how we're going to manage that land and group.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's going to have a pretty solid year as a young arm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This will be a second year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, uncomfortable web, Ray will see as far as how he can last.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He may also be kind of like if the giants don't have a good season, he may be trade bait, you know, near the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I do think group has something, but they lost one of their young arms, Hayden Christian,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Christianson to elbow injury.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's going to have Tommy John and then no one really has stood out as far as like in spring training to kind of fight for those spots because I was like, why are Malian houses are just given these roles like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And there was nobody else so I'm not confident in the starting rotation outside of web.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm hopeful that these guys can can be additive, but I just want to see it first.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's my same thought with Vatelo.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're new manager from Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the idea of it is really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't like Brad and I had talked about.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He had, I don't know if you, I don't know if you heard this or not, but like a cash probably been a month now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He holds this press conference.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's like, all right, guys, we're going to have a chat here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I didn't like it when, you know, the writers, and I think he was talking about Ken Rosenthal and Ken Rosenthal was like literally right there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't like it when there were reports that I had already made my decision and signed on to be the giant's manager and I had not yet and I hadn't even told my team, I hadn't told my coaches, I hadn't told my current players, I hadn't told the folks that I was recruiting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I was really bummed out about that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so the stance locally,

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Bay Area media is pretty nice, like compared to like if it was like in Philly or Chicago or New York.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Bay Area media was like, okay, this guy still's got his training wheels on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he's very new, he doesn't really understand.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's still in that sort of college thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But to me, I was like, dude.

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[SPEAKER_03]: kid over it like this is like your ex girlfriend or something like you need to move like we need to be present you're in spring training trying to put this team together so I was I was already kind of a a little bit of like wait and see with him and then that pulled me back even further I was like oh no here we go again this guy's gonna get a homesick by mid season and and you know he's gonna ask out like that's how I was feeling now sense then

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he probably realized this is the mistake that he made.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And he's been really good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And because part of his charm is kind of how he handles the, like being the public face of things, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That is what Buster Posey is selling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Buster Posey isn't selling devours necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Buster Posey is selling we have a new face of our team and this guy's the right guy to take us to the promised land.

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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... and maybe that's good for divers because you know divers himself doesn't necessarily seem to want to be in the public eye that much as like the you know the the guy who's going to carry the team on his back that doesn't seem to be his personality yeah so maybe that is a good thing

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I am, again, I'm hopeful that Vatelo is the right guy, but he's for me at least.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's got a microscope, I mean, I have the microscope on him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I'm going to be watching the students every move.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I'm reading the quotes too, like early on in spring training, he kept calling back to

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, when I was at Tennessee and we did, I'm like, dude, they're not a college baseball.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, it's different than what's going on right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, you can't be talking about the 19-year-old kid who, you know, you had to help get a custom to being away from his parents for the first time in his life.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, this is way different.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to be open like I'm going to be my arms are going to be open, but I'm still a little reserved about how this thing plays out for the giants, because I was just so unimpressed with how he handled the early part of spring training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you know, one of our little secret weapons that like nobody talks about is

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[SPEAKER_01]: they've Robert's ability to like get under these managers skin, like with his little passive aggressive jobs and because that's the line up stuff bring the lineup a little late and making the lineup late, you know, just the way the way he talks down to them and some of it comes up very respectful like he's got this because he's been he's been

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the postseason going on 10 years now 10 years straight we've gone to the postseason and he's been to the show about four or five of those times so he knows exactly what to do when to do it I mean if if you study what he did to other managers in the last year's postseason I mean he'd have more love

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, for the, the, the Bruce manager, um, the Bluegees manager, he had a mall like, you know, and what happens is that people start making, they start managing with their emotions, what they start doing, whenever whenever a manager is able to do that, um, and I see that and I'm like, that's so good at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, just that, that playing that, like, like, like, that big brother role, you know, and how he just kind of gets all over them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And somehow, because it's based on baseball, it's a very traditional sport that's based

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[SPEAKER_01]: like the younger managers still feel like they have to respect this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's weird the game that he plays, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have a young guy like the Giants New Manager, and if he goes into those shark-infested waters with rock roots, it's going to be over for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to eat them up, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's going to be interesting how he looks at that because his rep at Tennessee was kind of like

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know we have the best team we're going to run it up like and we're not going to be silent about it like our players like to cheer I kind of like the how we're talking about the WBC as far as the celebrations are like celebrating is good like all that stuff so it'll be interesting to see how you plays that but what you said about Roberts and I would all I would kind of joke with you about how oh you know he's flipping a you know he's flipping through his binder and you know he's got his iPad it's making all the decisions but the thing about him

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[SPEAKER_03]: If he was the manager instead of Mark Drossan, the WBC, the U.S.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Team USA wins.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I know that you can't be a major league manager and manage the WBC team USA, but he would have found a way to push all of the right buttons that Drossa couldn't figure out how to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, we had, it was like, Breggman or Gutter Henderson, like, how do we figure that one out, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think Roberts, let's not take, let's not take for granted that this dude had maybe one of the single most important stolen bases in the history of the world series.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he's been there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's been under that pressure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He succeeded under that pressure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And

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[SPEAKER_03]: That doesn't mean he's going to win every single world series or push every button.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we don't know that, but he's going to be he's not, you know, he's going to be able to be in those positions and be comfortable and not be, but you know, the the brewers thing was was right on because that team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: the whole season right they were the little engine that could the entire season and that's how they played they played correctly they did all the little things that it was the you know what here's what you can do even if you don't don't live in a big market and you have a small payroll and yet

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dave Roberts kind of used that against them like who cares like, you know, this thing, this is things about talent man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is not about stories like this is about something with a Jay or the big bad wolf and you guys are are, you know, low red writing could this that's how this is going to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, same thing with the jazel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The jazel were the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They come in there with their attitude, they get in so much hype and look what happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they've got to explain better based on what they counted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing about robbers that makes him pretty scary is that he doesn't care about the way the season looks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't mind a messy season to give a championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Dodgers will never have that 117 win season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just not going to do that because Robert doesn't believe in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Robert believes in like we've got to survive the day because we got guys like Blake's now, guys like glass now who are going to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we got to say if I got to put a whole week of baseball, I'm going to put all because I got to save my guys to the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that's what he believes in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a guy that was gonna as fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was this close to Pantine, game three of the world series because he was gonna have to bring me a rose in, because he ran out of pictures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, fuck it, we'll see what happens tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And thankfully, you know, Freeman hit that home run and we went home with the W because because a Schneider put his mention, you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, see that, see that, that was a great game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw that different managing

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and that was not a game, it's not a Schneider game to cock you, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he was like, I'm going to put my bench in because the game's going to be over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they played, they played two games at night, if they ate other things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anyways, um, so, so Robert's is our little, our little hidden weapon when it comes to all these games and all these little mind games that we see throughout the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just knows how to navigate all that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right, mokey bets.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Defensively, he had a pretty damn good season playing shortstop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But he doesn't make, you know, $300 million or whatever he makes because he plays a good shortstop.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He makes that money because offensively, he's just the tableceter of all table setters and clans these in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and and last season he he struggled he kind of looked like an old guy last season now he has he had his excuses he had the illness early on and i i don't know what that illness was but he got he got life dropped out yeah dropped a lot of weight and he specifically said i was reading something about it where he said his bad was just so slow now he doesn't have that crazy bad speed that some of these other players have

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, so if his bat speed is a little bit slower than normal, he's probably it's probably going to hurt him more than a lot of guys, but he said that he was working on improving his bat speed and getting it back to what was average for him, he thought that was the biggest problem.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What is Dodger nation feel about bets as far as is this going to be a come back season for him are they kind of worried about How he's aging and because his contract, you know, he's still signed for several years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was over six years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, what's the what's the what's the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The little the you know, the pulse here in the city is that the work concern that he's aging out and last year was the first sign of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, we're going to see how he does at the end of the season here, but that was a big concern.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But also another concern is that he's a guy that that's very hard on himself, and so whenever he loses his confidence, he's one of those guys that just spirals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To the point where there was a couple of times to the local media he was he had a very emotional Conversations, you know pretty much being like like the opposite of Blake's now just kind of going over like He's done everything he can and there's nothing else he could do there was a point where he was deep in his struggle Deep in his struggles where he just went under and said I just don't know what else to do you know I'm in the cage every day

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've tried changing things up and then he had that whole visit with JD Martinez that turned it around line in the middle towards the end of last season and he kind of woke up a little bit right until the boy and were daughter friends were saying that it's been JD Martinez the coach you know because this guy

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then he kind of went in another slum and then he kind of took them into the postseason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he never really recovered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he never really recovered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What he did do at the end was he knew how to work the count.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one thing that he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For the end of the season, he ended up really understanding how to work the count.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he started getting a lot of walks because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he never got the power back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He never really got on base a lot in the entire season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he batted like 240, which is ridiculous for somebody like Muki.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but he did end up not working the count a lot better, we're getting better pitches and he did walk a lot towards the answer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That really helped us because then he would get on and you know, you have three men behind him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so our, our, our, our Italian as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So from the perspective of, uh, kind of my hopes for the giants and this isn't moody bets related, but it kind of made me think about this, which is,

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's a lot of hope that Adamus, William Domus, last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm seeing the Giants roster right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I keep on looking down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see what I want to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to talk about some of them want to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So William Domus from an average perspective.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't hit for high average.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And a lot of his home runs were kind of backloaded at the end of the season when the Giants offense kind of woke up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got 30 of them last season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He got to 30.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think for the giants to take that step that I'm thinking, and I don't know if it's going to be 84 wins or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's kind of where I'm at, A384 wins and whether or not that gets him into the wild card we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's going to be somebody like him who goes, OK, I've been in the NL West for this one year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We, I see what the Dodgers are doing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because,

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[SPEAKER_03]: He brings that joy that we were talking about in the WBC and that the giant's hope that Vatelo also brings, he's still want them to be professional, but Adamus brings that joy to the game and I think that giant's offense, their their leadership needs a little bit of that because sometimes I think they take on poster posies personality too much, which is a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But because, you know, the reason why you back in the 80s, the reason why you could have a wool clark is because then you had a Kevin Mitchell who was like nothing but business right like Kevin Mitchell might fight you on the field, you know, to get that respect.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Same with guys like a hackman Jeffrey Leonard like those guys were like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: you say the wrong thing and they're going to like start swinging at you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, you had will, will could kind of hide behind them a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're like his bodyguards.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But for Adamus and another person who's, I want to see a little bit of that joy is like, Junghu Lee.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I don't think Junghu Lee is going to be the level of player that we probably had hoped when they brought him over.

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[SPEAKER_03]: After seeing, you know, his first season was so

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think what we thought he was, he's not quite there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's probably only like 75% of how they were trying to sell him to the Giants, at least the Giants PR, but the one thing that he can do

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[SPEAKER_03]: is he can make some amazing plays and he can do stuff on the field where you just get behind him and think, oh man, this guy's so much fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that is kind of a little bit different than I've really seen from Giants teams now when they won the World Series in 2010.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There was a book that kind of wrote about how like they were just a bunch of these guys who were just thrown together and they were like this interesting weird mix goofy mix of guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How can you be like you're not wearing suits on the road when you have Brian Wilson and this chest hair closing game right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But then, by the time 12 and 14, those titles, they were a little bit more buttoned up, like you saw, Madison Bumgarner who's wants to yell at everyone if they watch their home run for more than two seconds.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so that's kind of what the, what the,

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[SPEAKER_03]: kind of the how the team just their their personality was a little like this day though just yeah and that's my worry because like buster posey that's his personality right like buster posey buster posey has like a fun wit to him but he's not he's not a very showy guy and I want the team to be a little bit more personality because I think they have the personalities for that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But if you if you don't allow those personalities to shine maybe you're holding them back a little bit and that's why I hope Adamas comes out on fire this year because if he's kind of the engine he's the engine if he gets it going and you see him having a great time and being really great leader I think that's that's what's going to pick this team up so that kind of your short stop is very important for

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[SPEAKER_03]: the pulse of your team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think Adam is similarly is important for the pulse of the giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially because you guys are under the shadow of like the Dodgers who are a very bombastic team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we got to Oscar who goes out there and pretty much does backlips, you know, for things everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, we got players that are very emotional, and they show it on the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But not all of them though, you know, Freddie Freeman's very reserved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Mooki's very reserved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Otani's very reserved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's nice to see, and it definitely helps with the PR and just the vibe of the team, you know, that's great contagious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially when you're winning, you want that kind of atmosphere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you thinking about about your, your bullpen this year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm seeing it here.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This bullpen is like a bunch of no names.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little concerned about it for you, but I'm happy for us.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my gosh, so Ryan Walker is closing for them and he was their closer two years ago and he did a pretty decent job, but last year he was the kind of guy who was like, I shouldn't like, I don't deserve to be in this role because I can't shut the door like he was that kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You guys, you guys waved your magic wand and fixed that one, but um, there are arms that are interesting, but nobody who's like, oh, that's like so Randy Rodriguez, who was the guy who's closing for the made the all star team last year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: he also went down with Tommy John.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So if he was healthy, he would have been the giant's closer this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Young guy, but just has really good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But because he's out, they turned back to Ryan Walker and I thought they were going to bring somebody in like there were closers out there who either could have closed or maybe been the setup guy for Walker if it turned out that way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: they didn't, they didn't bring anybody in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They have all of these like random known name guys.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They were bringing in left handers, you know, up until just the other day, they brought a new one in and the other guy who was there, Luke Casey was like, okay, he's obviously coming into replace me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So can you guys just release me?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I could find a new team like I understand what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, the bullpen is going to be

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're like, that's going to be Vatelo's biggest puzzle is how to figure out that bullpin because like I said, you don't got to worry about it when Logan Web starts and to an extent you don't have to worry about it when Robbie Ray either because Robbie Ray is going to try and push for six.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He might throw 130 pitches to get there, but he's going to push for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's those other guys three four and five, you may need, you may need to use a lot of your bullpin to get through three four and five and that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's not that you're undisited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because then you rely on your offense a lot more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you lean on your offense when you don't have a consistent bullpen, you're not going to win a lot of those like two to one games or two games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to have to have your offense give you at least six seven eight runs in order for, you know, you have to make room for those mistakes that the bullpen's probably going to make because they're in experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, or they're not top level relievers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be it's going to be very difficult.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, as for, and then to top it off, there's three, there's three starting pictures that you don't have confidence in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I'm those games, you know, where you're getting maybe five, and then the way you rely on the both then, I mean, most of the games are going to be against teams like San Diego and Los Angeles who are very offensive every team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see how that goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a lot as much as now this because nowadays the schedules are wonky.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think there's hope in guy who pitch for Venezuela, he even pitch in that final game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Jose Buto.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He pitched pretty good, but he's not like an eighth or ninth inning guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's probably like a seventh inning guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They also have this guy who they brought back who was originally with them a few years ago, Gregory Santos is like a hard, sinker guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And the guy who was like the liveliest arm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Pegaro.

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[SPEAKER_03]: he'd like heard his hamstring or something so he's going to be out for a couple months because he's because he's the guy who could like light it up like a hundred miles an hour but he's going to be out for a little bit so that they have this is this was interesting because they have two guys who they signed but both guys aren't going to be ready until the midpoint of the season so you know probably maybe a little bit before the all-star break they're going to bring in a ready and a lefty who should be ready to go by then

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I like the idea of having those guys ready and waiting to help you at that point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But what if you're 10 games under 500 by then, like, you know, the how helpful.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, they be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The giants will have to be floating above water in order for those guys to really mean something for the, for the, for the,

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's a hint hint hint kiss and a folie of the two guys who they're waiting on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got a few.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we got to talk about Otani because.

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[SPEAKER_03]: you as a Dodger fan, you guys have to know that like right now is like the greatest time to like be a baseball fan.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was like, I mean, like, you know, I got to see it with bonds, but I'm thinking more.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no

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[SPEAKER_03]: to the literally watch a game and think that once every two games you guys going to hit a home run like that's just how it works right like that's that's kind of how it works.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I look at Otani even a little bit differently like I don't know if he's bonds he might be Steph Curry I bring up the Warriors again because what Steph Curry did for the Warriors is he's he made all the fans go okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: every year that this dude plays on our team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have a chance.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And when you have that thought as a fan of any sports team, like I'm a minor fan as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't feel that they can go to the Super Bowl every year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There are several years like last year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was like, yeah, they're not that good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This year, I was like, yeah, they're good enough, but they're not a Super Bowl team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: When Steph Curry, even in the years that the warriors aren't good,

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Warriors fans go, okay, if Steffis healthy and there are good players around him, you always have a chance.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that is kind of what you're going to have with the Otani for as long as he's Otani is you're just going to be able to go, you're going to have so much faith in the guy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If he's on our team still, we have a chance no matter what.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that is like a fantastic place

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[SPEAKER_03]: And every time he steps on the field, you have a chance to win the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and there is something special about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a special athlete.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, obviously, the last year, the whole joke was like, yeah, Barry Bonds will give you, when he had that role, is that that three-hone-run game with 10 strikeouts can subruest in the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, yeah, Bonds will give you those three-hone runs, but he ain't gonna give you those 10 strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that's just the way it is, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Bons hasn't accepted it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin, he kind of promo on Motani last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's saying that it, because in his time, he's like, he's like, a ton of they would've just walked the tonny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got so many walks and they don't really do that no more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're just back and they wouldn't give them those at batas when he's trying to say, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he, what Bons was trying to say is that if he got the batas that a tonny got, he would've been even better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what he's trying to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in his time, either they'll be mum or they'll just walk them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he ain't pitching so cares.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he's a special player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a little frustrating and whatever you can't you can't turn back time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of lost seven years in like nowhere land over in Anaheim.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's kind of frustrating because he was in his prime there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but you know, we still got a good, I don't know, I would say a good three, four years before he started his, in my opinion, kind of going downhill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then as a VA, she went on forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at every Martinez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he was in his 40s.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, so yeah, no, we're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to have them for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we need him to be productive for a while for a couple of reasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One.

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[SPEAKER_01]: With all these deferments, because Andrew Friedman or Friedman, I should say our main guy in baseball operations, he said, hey, he said to LaMedia, what we're doing is not sustainable, even in LA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there is, we are going to have to pay the pipe prevention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what I think what he meant by that is, in the years of deferment, which are coming up, you know, in the next

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to be able to go out there and get prime players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just not because we're going to be paying all these contracts off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Al-Tani has to stay healthy at least to see us through that, to cover the deferment of moody beds and Edwin Diaz.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all these guys that are not gonna play 10 more years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, so we need him to stay healthy for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also because he just draws a lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's a guy that, you know, based on the doctor's stadium, get in price is like 100 bucks for the low level game, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we need him to stay healthy for a while, but it's good to have him for sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So what is the expectation?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now the guy has done

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[SPEAKER_03]: the impossible right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to be in the mix for MVP the oh I guess the only worry is just if he was to get hurt, but a lot of that is luck.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He seems to be very well conditioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're getting his output two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can say Yankees in the world series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, second base and he this located his shoulder actually and then then he didn't still as many bases last year as the year before Well, that's because he was pitch you so so with him and so it's gonna be the question of what do you want?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You do you want do you want that productive hitter that's gonna give you 55 55 seasons or do you want that pitcher and hitter?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get 50 home runs, but you're not going to get the aggressiveness on the basis, and you know, but you are going to get the innings as a picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's whatever, and that's what I want, because I hope we're paying it for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we're not paying them to be at the age, I don't care if he has a 60, 60 season or a 70, 70 season, we're paying them to pitch, but when he pitches, you know, the production as a header is going to minimize that's understandable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not super human and we go, it seems that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, so the expectation to me, it gives us a repeat of last season, I'm going to be happy with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, last one, this is also his first full season as a picture last season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He started pitching a thing around May or June and it was, it was an increments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was 180, then two, then three and so on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the first full season where he's going to be a national pitcher.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The last topic I had for you was somebody who is supposed to kind of help the starting pitching situation, who is a rookie Sasaki and last year,

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I'm sure he wanted to be in the mix from from jump street, but he was not he was not good right out of the gate.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so this year, you kind of do it again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I know he's penciled in there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I still don't see that vote of confidence yet from Dave Roberts as like, yep, he's the, you know, we're just going to let him go out there and throw and he's going to be fine.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was a little bit more reserved as far as his comments about

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, house to sake did in the spring training, what do you think is going to happen with Sasaki?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised that he made the team to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he had a horrible spring training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that his velocity is down again, which to me is like a confidence thing, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a Japanese player and Japanese players when they hit the skids, they take it very hard just because they have so much pride in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To the point where we saw that meme of him crying, when he got rocked at first time,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm concerned about him and him finding his confidence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did choose the Dodgers because he wanted help with his fast mom velocity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was one of the main reasons why he chose the Dodgers because they have the coaching staff that he felt was comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were comfortable enough to train him to be able to race his velocity in the fastball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or actually it was control issues with the fastball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could hit 104 and just the control issues that he has promised for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they're little stuck with him to be honest with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they really don't know what to do last season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They brought him in as the closer he was our closer and he got over as our closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had some productive games, but he also wasn't perfect either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was a couple games in the postseason where they didn't get rock and he himself said that he will hit that wasn't his role.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he had to put his foot on his leg.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be a boping guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I came here to start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this season they they're going to have him as a six starter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's penciled in after him in Cheon to be the number six starter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be interesting because when major league ball players man, if they find a weak spot in you, they're going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was in a big investment, you know, it was a guy that has a lot of potential.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They found them in the WBC, the previous, I was like three years ago, and so, I mean, they could take their time with them, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised he made the team to be honest with me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know we like to do this with sort of like players and backgrounds and such, but, you know, if you're Sasaki,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would think that, you know, I would kind of lean into Yamamoto and Otani for guidance a little bit, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it seems like he believes he's like the rock star of the team and maybe, you know, he's he expects so much out of himself, but I like I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like the just the dynamic of like you have this you have these two studs like you could go you know go learn under their wing like how is that does that happen does it is it yeah you see it okay it's kind of weird and and it's funny because you're so far away from the media here you still get that vibe and you're not even like dialed in there's this vibe where

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[SPEAKER_01]: Otani and Yamamoto have tried, you see it, you see it on the field, you see it when they're talking to the press, like they've tried to mentor the kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is an age gap, Sasaki is relatively young, it's like 24 to 25.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe he's a situation where he got too much too soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there is this idea, I don't think it's cockiness, I think it's more

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he comes like, that's a shy, really shy guy to where he doesn't really approach them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They approach him, but he doesn't approach them, and that's kind of the vibe that they have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so yeah, it's interesting, but you're right, there should be more of a mentorship there and and yeah, Tony and Yamamoto, they've told the media, we have, you know, tried to counsel him and guide him along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have never said that he's refused it, but they have given some like very passive statements of like he's not as hungry as it should be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of like Rocky Sasaki's thing is like he's not as hungry as it should be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I've also seen some stuff where when he thought he had kind of figured some things out like the Dodgers coaches, you know, were at least in the public were like, okay, like we helped him with this thing, but then he himself was like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I did this with my people, like he kind of separated, like who was the reason for him to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the hang of my page to the C.M.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't mean you're helped with you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was kind of interesting the way that he thought that, because and maybe that's just

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[SPEAKER_03]: the difference in what is expected out of the media, like, even if it wasn't the Dodgers coaching staff, you lean into the idea of team and he's like, no, no, no, like, that really wasn't how it worked.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, this is how it worked, which I, I don't have a problem with that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But at the same time, you know, there is a certain way that the Dodgers engine works.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you want to make sure that people are kind of going along with the ride, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially because there is like an eagle attached to the engine right because it's worth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got two rural championships.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've been to the world series countless times.

53:46.479 --> 53:48.502
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they got a three or a championship in 2020.

53:49.404 --> 53:54.892
[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of different things to where the engine, the Dodger engine does work.

53:54.912 --> 53:58.397
[SPEAKER_01]: So when you're refusing it, it's like, what the hell is this guy thinking?

53:58.377 --> 54:05.692
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, so so we'll see what happens with him like I said, we got Rob Lefke as a backup if he can really handle the pressure.

54:05.732 --> 54:11.965
[SPEAKER_01]: Rob Lefke has given us some good innings over the last couple of years, so I'm not too worried about that.

54:12.125 --> 54:12.927
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

54:13.666 --> 54:15.429
[SPEAKER_03]: we didn't even talk about Kyle Tucker.

54:15.509 --> 54:18.934
[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's how much of it is embarrassment of riches for you guys.

54:19.434 --> 54:22.579
[SPEAKER_01]: But he did replace him for a lot of those.

54:22.599 --> 54:23.260
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's it.

54:23.280 --> 54:27.886
[SPEAKER_03]: Gosh, that's like two like plus two, not just plus one.

54:28.147 --> 54:30.951
[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I guess the latest and it just happened a couple of days ago.

54:31.031 --> 54:32.353
[SPEAKER_01]: The latest controversy.

54:32.493 --> 54:38.762
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I know why a lot of fans are confused is that like he's on Kim.

54:38.742 --> 54:41.766
[SPEAKER_01]: got sent to the miners and he had a phenomenal spring.

54:41.886 --> 54:51.077
[SPEAKER_01]: He was hit to 70, you know, he was making, he was working the pitches, and then Alex Freeland ended up getting the game, you know, said that.

54:51.297 --> 54:54.861
[SPEAKER_01]: He's 24 years old, you know, and so this is my theory.

54:56.162 --> 55:00.868
[SPEAKER_01]: I think that day one came to be to play every day and he was going to be playing every day and the majors.

55:01.355 --> 55:15.554
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they want to see what this kid feeling has to offer like they want to find you see like because he's he's he's I think it was a number seven draft day and he's somebody that they believe it, but they also he hasn't really kind of played up to his reputation.

55:15.995 --> 55:17.697
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is a make a right for him.

55:18.178 --> 55:25.508
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's funny because sometimes players would take a personal ride, they'll be like, well, why am I being sent down, I had a better, I had a better spirit in this guy.

55:25.888 --> 55:28.071
[SPEAKER_01]: But in reality, it's actually there to protect you.

55:28.051 --> 55:31.777
[SPEAKER_01]: like, like, they want chimps on every day, second baseman.

55:31.817 --> 55:32.779
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not going to happen.

55:32.799 --> 55:35.925
[SPEAKER_01]: Thought it's when we're really in this fight.

55:35.945 --> 55:40.893
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, it's going to say if there's a plan, then you're like, okay, I understand the plan.

55:40.933 --> 55:43.618
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's the, you know, here's what you're trying to do.

55:44.259 --> 55:49.408
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's good that, I mean, I'm assuming they communicated that to him so that he knows.

55:49.829 --> 55:51.291
[SPEAKER_03]: But sometimes

55:51.271 --> 56:11.794
[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't make any sense and and and you could feel that way like hmm like well you know what so what does this mean for me It actually seems like what you said which is the guy who made the team he's got to put up or shut up and and there's pressure in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right, right.

56:14.160 --> 56:20.108
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so that's kind of like the latest news that broke with us, and I thought he was going to make the team, because he's awesome.

56:20.168 --> 56:20.609
[SPEAKER_01]: I love him.

56:20.989 --> 56:22.611
[SPEAKER_01]: I love how seen him come off the band.

56:22.651 --> 56:35.729
[SPEAKER_01]: He's really fast, you know, because there's some bases, but Alex Freeland is a little more flexible, you know, he could play third basic, play second base, and we got Tommy Edmund coming off the high-house, so he's going to start up the season injured.

56:36.110 --> 56:41.697
[SPEAKER_01]: So we got Miguel Rojas, but tuning with Freeland, so that's going to be the strategy.

56:42.757 --> 56:54.712
[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, we'll see, well, one thing that I'm interested in, we'll see how Kyle took her handle the alley media because it's not as bad as New York, it's not been as bad in New York, but it's not, it's also not a walk in the park either, you know what I'm saying?

56:54.773 --> 56:58.758
[SPEAKER_03]: And there's a lot of things that they're just, there's expectation for him.

56:59.619 --> 57:02.082
[SPEAKER_01]: But to me, okay.

57:03.833 --> 57:06.338
[SPEAKER_01]: We need to know who we're getting with him.

57:06.379 --> 57:12.211
[SPEAKER_01]: We're not getting, I think people are expecting like you were saying, like a very bond type of player, you know?

57:12.231 --> 57:16.360
[SPEAKER_01]: This guy's like, last now, he's never, was the last time he had a full season.

57:16.421 --> 57:20.610
[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a while, maybe never, I don't know, but I know what the company never had a full season.

57:20.630 --> 57:21.391
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, the Astros.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably, yeah.

57:24.387 --> 57:27.532
[SPEAKER_01]: And so he's a guy that's also very injury prone.

57:28.354 --> 57:30.197
[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of a loofah as well.

57:30.317 --> 57:35.085
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's one of those guys that has a rep for like, not being a team player and whatnot.

57:35.726 --> 57:39.152
[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of kept to himself over spring training.

57:39.994 --> 57:43.520
[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, we'll see what happens with him.

57:43.820 --> 57:45.323
[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of the guys I didn't agree with that.

57:45.884 --> 57:46.665
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought,

57:47.708 --> 57:55.051
[SPEAKER_01]: I thought signing Kyle Tucker was just the doctor for an office like exposing themselves, putting their eyes on it.

57:55.111 --> 58:01.110
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought, you know, it's like, you see it that way.

58:01.833 --> 58:05.577
[SPEAKER_03]: because you understand the team and you understand the ecosystem.

58:06.137 --> 58:12.644
[SPEAKER_03]: And for me, because we're the rivals, we saw it as the front office, like flexing their muscles.

58:12.704 --> 58:23.475
[SPEAKER_03]: Like guys wanna play for us and they're gonna take a deal that is not as good for their longevity of their career just because we can pay them a little bit extra.

58:23.495 --> 58:26.418
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's where we can, you know, that's where we win.

58:26.778 --> 58:31.603
[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I saw it as.

58:31.702 --> 58:42.934
[SPEAKER_01]: And so to me and so a lot of fans, that was the one where it's like, now like we could kind of see how the rest of the fan base sees us, you know, because it's like, it's like, bro, like, you didn't have to do that.

58:42.975 --> 58:45.617
[SPEAKER_01]: We had an all-star team without that signing.

58:45.657 --> 58:53.666
[SPEAKER_01]: It was like the Edwin deals already put us on, you know, rocky footing, especially with the lockout looming in 2027.

58:54.047 --> 58:56.610
[SPEAKER_01]: Now you go on and get Kyle Tucker.

58:56.630 --> 58:58.191
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, now for sure it's going to happen.

58:58.251 --> 58:58.772
[SPEAKER_01]: So,

58:58.752 --> 59:05.561
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was one of those sightings that I was like, yeah, and then I also know the guy stats and it's like he's not going to be worth this money.

59:05.581 --> 59:06.843
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a good player.

59:06.943 --> 59:14.192
[SPEAKER_03]: He's not, you know, he's not anywhere near Otani or even mookie when mookie's at his best.

59:14.272 --> 59:20.220
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I would put him like, I would put him like a William Domus caliber player like to be honest with you.

59:20.521 --> 59:42.394
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59:43.471 --> 59:49.037
[SPEAKER_03]: We don't have to go world series or bus prediction right now, but what is your expectation for the regular season?

59:49.078 --> 01:00:05.977
[SPEAKER_03]: Do you expect the regular season like last year where the expectation is really high, but you don't even have the most wins in the national league, or do you or is it going to be like the year before where you guys are clearly the best team in the national league?

01:00:05.997 --> 01:00:10.963
[SPEAKER_03]: And it just feels like, you know, we already know the outcome getting

01:00:11.399 --> 01:00:13.302
[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're going to have a season like last season.

01:00:13.322 --> 01:00:24.958
[SPEAKER_01]: We essentially have the same core, I mean, it's the same team coming back, which is just got rid of a comfortable and broadened Tucker, that's the big change, you know, and we brought in Diaz to be a closer.

01:00:26.700 --> 01:00:38.436
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we're going to see a lot of the same, you know, Sasaki's a little, if he's a question mark, Blake's now is the question mark, that's now is the question mark, and they are every season they're going to be question marks.

01:00:38.416 --> 01:01:05.757
[SPEAKER_01]: Because every time they go on we've got to bring someone up so I think we're I think we're going to see a season like we saw Last season especially if Mookie if he is ageing out and last season was a sign-up image in out Then we have we're gonna have to deal with that as well Freddy Freeman is the guy that he's pleased he tries to give you 160 two games Doesn't always accomplish it, but he's also banged up and every season it seems like it takes less and less for him to be banged up

01:01:05.737 --> 01:01:10.243
[SPEAKER_01]: Um, there's the maximum to factor was also someone who gets for quite a bit.

01:01:10.583 --> 01:01:14.048
[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the things that I wanted to say is that this team is aging out.

01:01:14.248 --> 01:01:15.290
[SPEAKER_01]: We could see it already.

01:01:15.390 --> 01:01:17.673
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is the same portal we've had for a few years now.

01:01:18.474 --> 01:01:23.180
[SPEAKER_03]: And we're going to see which is why you guys go for it though at the same time, right?

01:01:23.260 --> 01:01:26.585
[SPEAKER_03]: Like you, you know, here's our star players.

01:01:27.226 --> 01:01:32.272
[SPEAKER_03]: Here's where, you know, as far as the apex as far as how good our team is going to be.

01:01:32.312 --> 01:01:35.136
[SPEAKER_03]: We can be like this for like two or three years.

01:01:35.217 --> 01:01:44.050
[SPEAKER_03]: So then you just pile on the guys and go, okay, for these next two or three years, we're going to try to win five titles and then deal with the outcomes after that.

01:01:44.671 --> 01:01:44.951
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:01:45.091 --> 01:01:49.938
[SPEAKER_01]: And at the same time, now, this is what a lot of people don't understand and frustrates me.

01:01:50.359 --> 01:01:53.524
[SPEAKER_01]: At the same time, develop the farm system.

01:01:53.664 --> 01:01:57.790
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you want, because we have possibly probably the best farm system in baseball.

01:01:57.810 --> 01:01:59.873
[SPEAKER_01]: And so we have some young kids.

01:01:59.913 --> 01:02:03.498
[SPEAKER_01]: That's why Alex Friedman is going to get the call to start a second base right now.

01:02:03.518 --> 01:02:04.920
[SPEAKER_01]: That time he

01:02:04.900 --> 01:02:12.955
[SPEAKER_01]: So we want that core, we have Dalton Rush rushing as the back of catcher, we're trying to make a first basement, because it was meant to be there for years.

01:02:13.997 --> 01:02:18.244
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so we have some young athletes that are ready as well.

01:02:18.946 --> 01:02:28.343
[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the things that the feedmen did in the last year, he didn't trade anybody in the in the trade they're like because he didn't want to sacrifice his farm system.

01:02:28.323 --> 01:02:39.625
[SPEAKER_01]: So that tells you that they have a plan, they have a plan for the team age now, they have a plan on how to pay all these deferments and then have the young kids kind of take over, you know, to get us through that.

01:02:39.645 --> 01:02:47.901
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm confident in the time I'm confident that we're still going to be contenders for many years to come whether we're going to go deep into the policies and that's a different story.

01:02:47.881 --> 01:02:56.590
[SPEAKER_01]: But for this season, my expectation is that they're going to have a season like the last season, but they're also all professionals, the same core.

01:02:57.091 --> 01:02:59.454
[SPEAKER_01]: I do see us back in the world series.

01:02:59.494 --> 01:03:02.136
[SPEAKER_01]: Whether we're going to win or not, I don't know, but we are going to be in the world series.

01:03:03.398 --> 01:03:07.783
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like I said, I think for the giants, they'll be slightly better than last year.

01:03:07.803 --> 01:03:10.986
[SPEAKER_03]: And it's kind of interesting because

01:03:11.219 --> 01:03:28.063
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, when you look at a baseball team because there's so many players and unlike football, you know, where the quarterback is like far and away the most valuable player on the football field like if you have an ace quarterback, you're going to almost have

01:03:28.043 --> 01:03:30.306
[SPEAKER_03]: kind of average players everywhere or else.

01:03:30.366 --> 01:03:38.897
[SPEAKER_03]: And you'll still be slightly competitive, but in baseball, it's like the pieces seem to the way that they fit is very important.

01:03:39.498 --> 01:03:43.263
[SPEAKER_03]: And as a giant fan, I like some of the players.

01:03:43.703 --> 01:03:44.965
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I like Matt Chapman.

01:03:45.025 --> 01:03:45.926
[SPEAKER_03]: I like Adamus.

01:03:46.868 --> 01:03:49.451
[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, Devours is fun to watch him swing the bat.

01:03:49.831 --> 01:03:56.380
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they picked up Harrison Bader this year to play

01:03:56.360 --> 01:04:08.077
[SPEAKER_03]: But it's like the perfect team, if they had one superstar, like if you had one superstar, you're building the perfect team or on that one superstar, they're just missing that superstar.

01:04:08.838 --> 01:04:10.481
[SPEAKER_03]: And that's that's the problem with the team.

01:04:10.521 --> 01:04:23.380
[SPEAKER_03]: If you had somebody coming up or you had somebody who's a free agent, you're like, that's the guy who's going to make this team.

01:04:23.360 --> 01:04:34.498
[SPEAKER_03]: the the supporting pieces of of a team that could go all the way if they just had one of the better one of the top ten players in baseball and they just don't have that right now.

01:04:34.518 --> 01:04:36.481
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the farmers and nobody wants to go there man.

01:04:36.541 --> 01:04:37.202
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the problem.

01:04:38.023 --> 01:04:38.985
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, you trade for them.

01:04:39.966 --> 01:04:41.769
[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

01:04:41.809 --> 01:04:42.691
[SPEAKER_01]: Like they had that.

01:04:42.711 --> 01:04:44.153
[SPEAKER_03]: That's how they got devours.

01:04:44.622 --> 01:04:49.091
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true, but I mean, you know, you want the player to want to play there, you know.

01:04:49.572 --> 01:05:04.842
[SPEAKER_03]: And I know they've been interviewed everybody from Montani, you know, to Harper, like, and you heard Bryce Harper during the world-based while classic, he said the reason he didn't choose the giants is because

01:05:04.990 --> 01:05:09.917
[SPEAKER_03]: It was going to be Bruce Boachie's last season and Boachie was the guy he wanted to play for.

01:05:10.017 --> 01:05:16.666
[SPEAKER_03]: So they turned him off by sending Boachie out to the to the past year so that he can win another world series.

01:05:16.686 --> 01:05:17.828
[SPEAKER_01]: What stuff like that?

01:05:18.028 --> 01:05:27.662
[SPEAKER_03]: I thought he was on his own and he came back with the Rangers in the time he was one of those writing on the wall kind of things when the Giants brought in Farhan or Farhan.

01:05:27.962 --> 01:05:29.344
[SPEAKER_03]: Saidi.

01:05:29.324 --> 01:05:34.493
[SPEAKER_03]: boat she was like okay like our understanding of baseball is so different.

01:05:35.895 --> 01:05:41.505
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to want to bring in his own guy and that became Cape Cappler so.

01:05:42.366 --> 01:05:50.179
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay yeah yeah well I mean hey that's in that changes on none of the top 10 guys are going to want to go to for something fiscal so.

01:05:50.540 --> 01:05:51.822
[SPEAKER_03]: Well I tell you.

01:05:52.628 --> 01:05:56.632
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, here's, you know, I was talking about, I was a little bit pessimistic about Vatelo.

01:05:57.012 --> 01:06:00.235
[SPEAKER_03]: Now, here's the glass half full about Vatelo.

01:06:01.897 --> 01:06:09.485
[SPEAKER_03]: By being a head coach or a manager in college, he got to see a lot of young players.

01:06:10.325 --> 01:06:22.197
[SPEAKER_03]: And by having the best college program, he recruited a lot of the really good young players who are playing baseball today.

01:06:22.480 --> 01:06:44.206
[SPEAKER_03]: He, if the giants are good, and those guys like him, that could be a recruitment, and maybe that's Buster's overall kind of like long-term plan is Vatelo is actually the guy who brings folks in, kind of like how Harper wanted to play for Boachy.

01:06:44.547 --> 01:06:49.753
[SPEAKER_03]: That is an interesting thing, and if that happens, I will gladly say,

01:06:49.733 --> 01:06:58.399
[SPEAKER_03]: Damn, that was like a master plan of all master plans that I didn't see because of my kind of just like my worry about bringing a college guy into the pros.

01:06:58.860 --> 01:07:01.127
[SPEAKER_01]: Right, right, well we'll see how it plays out.

01:07:01.563 --> 01:07:06.449
[SPEAKER_03]: Well, we get game one Wednesday night on Netflix or you interested in that broadcast.

01:07:06.789 --> 01:07:07.731
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to watch it.

01:07:07.871 --> 01:07:10.033
[SPEAKER_01]: We know what's going to do the play by playing hard for that.

01:07:10.053 --> 01:07:12.316
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a vascularian, I think.

01:07:12.977 --> 01:07:14.038
[SPEAKER_01]: OK, all right.

01:07:14.058 --> 01:07:15.200
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's Matt Vascularian.

01:07:15.260 --> 01:07:18.964
[SPEAKER_03]: I know Hunter Pence and Brad and I were talking about this the other day.

01:07:20.686 --> 01:07:23.930
[SPEAKER_03]: Brad's not a big fan of Hunter Pence doing a doing base.

01:07:23.991 --> 01:07:27.655
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not either because he's kind of he's a little bit of a meat-haven himself.

01:07:27.635 --> 01:07:38.625
[SPEAKER_03]: But they're trying to bring both people from New York and San Francisco to kind of have like the evenness of the thing.

01:07:39.146 --> 01:07:42.309
[SPEAKER_03]: But our pull holes is going to be involved.

01:07:43.230 --> 01:07:46.172
[SPEAKER_03]: CC Sabathia is going to be involved.

01:07:46.252 --> 01:07:49.956
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't I think those guys might be like on like the pre game show or whatever.

01:07:50.016 --> 01:07:54.520
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the CC is already with the CBS I think.

01:07:55.107 --> 01:07:58.010
[SPEAKER_03]: So Bonds will be involved as well.

01:07:58.611 --> 01:08:05.458
[SPEAKER_03]: So it'll be L. Duncan, Barry Bonds, Albert Poohos, and Anthony Rizzo at the Analyst Desk.

01:08:06.018 --> 01:08:07.580
[SPEAKER_03]: Matt Veskershin, C.C.

01:08:07.600 --> 01:08:11.424
[SPEAKER_03]: Sebastian Hunter Pence in the broadcast booth.

01:08:11.444 --> 01:08:20.153
[SPEAKER_03]: And they're bringing in like these semi-celebrities like, and they're kind of tangentially related to Netflix.

01:08:20.133 --> 01:08:27.900
[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, James Winston, uh, the football player, James Winston, who plays for New York.

01:08:27.920 --> 01:08:29.321
[SPEAKER_03]: He's a New York Giants quarterback.

01:08:29.702 --> 01:08:36.488
[SPEAKER_03]: He's going to be involved in some way, uh, hurt, cry, sure that guy who always takes a shirt off on Raw.

01:08:36.748 --> 01:08:37.909
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is every.

01:08:37.929 --> 01:08:38.510
[SPEAKER_00]: He's every.

01:08:38.590 --> 01:08:42.453
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like Netflix is go to, uh, he's going to be there.

01:08:42.493 --> 01:08:44.535
[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't know if you heard this one.

01:08:45.756 --> 01:08:47.137
[SPEAKER_03]: The usos are going to be there.

01:08:47.338 --> 01:08:48.299
[SPEAKER_01]: I do hear it today.

01:08:48.439 --> 01:08:49.920
[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, they announced it on Raw.

01:08:50.069 --> 01:08:51.972
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, Tony Vittelo.

01:08:52.052 --> 01:08:55.298
[SPEAKER_03]: If he's smart, he gets to eat off at some point.

01:08:55.979 --> 01:08:56.160
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:08:56.720 --> 01:08:57.201
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:08:57.221 --> 01:08:59.826
[SPEAKER_01]: Makes like, well, then you Brian didn't go on the call.

01:08:59.846 --> 01:09:01.589
[SPEAKER_01]: He did get this show on, right?

01:09:02.811 --> 01:09:03.512
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:09:03.532 --> 01:09:04.254
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:09:04.314 --> 01:09:04.694
[SPEAKER_03]: He did.

01:09:04.734 --> 01:09:06.057
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the one who got that.

01:09:06.097 --> 01:09:08.601
[SPEAKER_02]: The yes chance.

01:09:08.986 --> 01:09:11.249
[SPEAKER_03]: Alright, now this was awesome.

01:09:11.309 --> 01:09:20.700
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, we do this kind of whenever we feel the need and you are a great pinch it for Brad, because Brad was out and was like, oh, what are we going to do at the beginning of the season?

01:09:20.720 --> 01:09:22.803
[SPEAKER_03]: But I was like, you know what, I have the perfect person.

01:09:22.843 --> 01:09:24.785
[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm thankful that you were available.

01:09:25.426 --> 01:09:27.769
[SPEAKER_03]: And as the season goes on, we'll kind of get back.

01:09:27.829 --> 01:09:30.893
[SPEAKER_03]: And we didn't really focus as much on the

01:09:30.873 --> 01:09:34.740
[SPEAKER_03]: the possible labor situations that are probably going to happen.

01:09:34.880 --> 01:09:39.389
[SPEAKER_03]: We will, that's going to be a long story.

01:09:39.689 --> 01:09:42.074
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this is like excitement of opening day.

01:09:42.114 --> 01:09:43.376
[SPEAKER_03]: We can talk about that stuff.

01:09:43.657 --> 01:09:43.997
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know.

01:09:44.017 --> 01:09:46.482
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're going to, what's up about that during the season, man?

01:09:46.542 --> 01:09:47.965
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm for sure at the end of the season.

01:09:48.466 --> 01:09:50.790
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's when really when it's going to really become a thing.

01:09:51.672 --> 01:09:54.096
[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see what happens.

01:09:55.240 --> 01:09:56.386
[SPEAKER_03]: All right, that is it from here.

01:09:56.647 --> 01:10:01.350
[SPEAKER_03]: So thanks to Draven for hanging out and getting this done for Draven.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm WGC when we see you piece out.