Giants Blow a 3-0 Lead (Again), Arraez Trade Buzz & Eldridge's ROY Push | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to Thompson to Clark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brad, you were out last week, so we did a giant versus Dodgers with, yeah, Draven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's much happier with his baseball team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are with ours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so easy being a Dodgers fan isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I titled the graphic to this show, something like the giants like invent a new way to lose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was a rough game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I really felt for the announcer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was, who was it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was pants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was David Flemming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, if.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there, you know, they're dead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The game's one zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the giants then score a couple runs to make it three zero and they, you know, they're pretty smart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did not believe that this game was all said that and so I didn't well, no, but you felt better than when it was one zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this sort of been the seventh inning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so then there's a play at second base where Willy Adam is a tags a runner out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think who was the runner?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was the runner had was kind of falling off of the base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Adam is tags him out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the umpire called it a put.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said that Willy pushed him off the bag and Willy's

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... the telos arguing and i just sensed from fliming i sensed it because i felt exactly the same way which is okay this one singular thing which the giant have no control over should it should be an out

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have no control over this because the Empire decided to call what he decided to call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And something bad is about to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is absolutely what I felt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, maybe someone needs to ask Fleming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he was so mad at the Empire for creating this reason for this runner to still exist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we felt the same way, which is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason we feel this way is because something bad is about to happen and we need to prevent these bad things from happening and forcing the giants just cannot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of this is bad luck and then some of this is, okay, well, how do we erase this bad luck?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just, let's just get the next guy out and we're good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost texted you right before Salvi Perez is home run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I almost texted you just say he's about to go deep right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as I was like my fingers on the keyboard, I look at the TV and he goes deep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, well, he beat me to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, as soon as it happened and Vitalo got run and I looked and I saw there's nobody out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's where it goes, here's where Charlie Brown takes the mound and the dark cloud goes over him and it starts raining and the next pitch blows by him on all of his clothes fall off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we've all seen those cartoons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, or maybe I don't know, maybe the younger crowd has not, but we've all seen the Charlie Brown massacre whenever he takes the mound.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I got to feel like, here we go, this is probably the 170 fifth time this has happened this season, where something bizarre has happened to this team and they cannot pull out of it because then it's just snowballs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether it's their fault or not for the thing to happen, it's sometimes it's a mental error, sometimes it's a physical error, sometimes it's an empire error.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they just

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd almost say it's comical.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it was, if it was the pirates or some other team, I'd say this is comical, but it's us and it's, I mean, we could only laugh at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not much else we can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll recap it a little bit here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the giants and the Royals retired zero zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, it was a nice little pitcher's duel there for a little bit between a group and a logo and logo's throwing, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: One pitch is 60 miles an hour, the next pitch is 90 miles an hour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like messing with speeds and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he even threw, he might have even thrown case of Schmidt, like an ephyspitch or something at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he came into the game with a 4.36 ERA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, you know, it was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, you know, it's a nice, it's a nice little duel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lugo ends up only giving up three hits in those seven innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Giants took advantage of the small amount of hits

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[SPEAKER_01]: The giant scored in the bottom, or in the top of the sixth, it was a Domus walk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drew Gilbert got hit, sack, but arise, sack fly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how they scored the first run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then in the seventh, Devers walked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That Devers had a pretty solid game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we'll talk about him a little bit when we talk about Eldridge later in the show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... then jungoo lee triples willy domas doubles uh... and and the score two more runs there so three zero going on seven and then this problematic ining happens so mentioned the press home run the press home are not only made it three two

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it would look like we know what's coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this is not the end of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Hank gets comes in, puts runners on, Keaton win comes in, gives up the base hit to tie the game, three, three, and then gives up another hit, five, three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Casey Schmidt hits a solo jack in the night to make it a little bit closer, but they lose five, four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They lost every single game in this royal series

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I was like, okay, the royals are at home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is just kind of how it works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I looked at the royals record and going into this giant set of better record than the royals and coming out of the series, they now have a worse record than the royals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, this is like, you know, if you're kind of comparing yourself again, some of the worse teams, I guess that just means that the giants are one of those worse teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they really, they could have won,

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[SPEAKER_01]: All three games in this series if they could just play serviceable baseball for all nine ratings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, I mean, it's, I think it's, obviously, we're getting towards the, I'll start, sorry, the trade deadline here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the next week and a half or so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's time to turn the page on, you know, does this team have a run in them to do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we've seen the Bob Melvin teams of the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They always have a little run in them, maybe two, maybe three, sometimes you'd get a little run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then they'd look awful for a week or so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they have another run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe by the end of the season, they'd have a nice old push to get within like, I don't know, five games of the wild card, the final wild card spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the gate-capper teams do, you know, not counting the 2020 and the 2021 teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But after that, he had a couple of teams there that were kind of like, okay, they're, you know, fighting a little bit here and there and going on a five, 16 winning streak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This team doesn't have that, and so it's actually kind of refreshing going to the trade deadline to not see it here and go, man, I hope we don't real off five wins in a row because then we might all of a sudden be a buy team instead of a cell team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't want that because this team is not real.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to worry about that with this team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know that they're not real.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not going to show us any different between now and the trade deadline of August third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that part is a little bit refreshing because you could just look at this team and say, okay, now let's just focus on the bright spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Elliott Ramos hit bombs, let's watch some of the younger pictures who might be coming up pretty soon, you know, see what they can do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we've got Parks Harbor and Bo David soon in Triple A, so it's kind of keep an eye on those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we know we can do that and then also hope that we can get some nice pieces back at the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the trade deadline comes and goes

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure what to think after that, because they're going to have a bunch of vets playing and filling up spots where you'd like to see younger players and not even that next season, but you're going to have those guys next season because they're all long-term deals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to hold that hold this year too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hold this pot because our chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, in our Giants chat was specifically about this and what would it take for some of these teams to take on players and it's not great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, uh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So shouldn't be right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It shouldn't be coming out of the all star break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Giants win seven to zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They beat the Mariners right out of the gate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're like, oh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is, you know, nice way to start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then

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[SPEAKER_01]: They went on to lose, 4 to 3, 6 to 3, 4 to 3, 3 to 2, 5 to 4.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they head into, uh, or at another home for, uh, the angels, and then they are home for the, uh, the brewers coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I, I just, and the angels are not good either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The angels are almost never good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, but it's like when you go into series like this

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you I think we we want them to win because we are giants fans and so when the expectation as yeah, they should beat some of these bad teams what we just went into Kansas City and they lost all three games out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all close games, but they just found ways to lose all of those games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just just what they've done all season long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like let's just figure out how we're going to lose this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's let's be creative here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, you know, Tony V. After this game is over, he was so concerned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I didn't see the whole press comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just saw the the right up of the story.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They asked him about what he said to the empire during this Adamus play where, you know, the guy should have been out at second and then you got a clean base and if Perez still hits a home run, then it's just one run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think they were none.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so it's so there was the beginning of a little rally there and so Vatelo was going through the paces of like what he said, you know, can I get clarity like, you know, what, you know, can we look at this again and he was very clear to say, well, if you think it was curse words, it was not curse words.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, let's like, it's so unfortunate because everything this guy does he almost feels like he's got to explain the worst outcome like, oh, you guys think I did this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I just did this like why are you guys thinking the worst of me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is just like

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[SPEAKER_01]: like he's just in this weird spot like he's not a good big league manager, but he also doesn't have a good big league team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you grade what his he's done or his job when he doesn't even have a roster, you know, we don't have to belabor the bullpin thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a I will we have been said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a bullbuster thing like he he bet wrong there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And not only is he bet wrong?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't even been creative in bringing you know that he's like, no, we're going to, this was our plan rolling with these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Foley's going to come back, Hankus is going to come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All these injured guys are going to come back and it's like, they've all come back and nothing, the bullpen is still giving up leads in every single stinking game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just like, I just sit there wondering like, do like, should I get bothered when they lose?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't really bothered.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was almost like it's kind of what I expected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you expect something to happen, you're kind of surprised when it doesn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where we are with this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just kind of expect them to do something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whether it's one inning or one at bat or one scenario where they're just going to screw something up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they're going to lose the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just a this is not a fun place to be when you're a baseball fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Haruku says Tony v. has made the team worse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's an overall negative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He may be an overall negative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think we can even gauge that with the team that he has like out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, give him a better roster, and then if he can't figure it out, then yeah, then I can make that declaration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I haven't seen him do something where I'm like, yep, he's terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's awful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's been small things here and there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more about what he says about the moves, and more than anything else to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't know how we can even define him right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine with this exact same roster, all of the exact same moves made during the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you put boochy and rags in there, maybe you get three more wins before at the most.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because maybe boochy's got a shorter hook on some of the guys that are going out there and getting blown up and Tony V's leaving them out just a little too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: some of these big comebacks, but I don't think Bochi and Rags are going to get to get many more wins out of this bullpen than Tony V's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I want to give Tony V a fair shake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really, you know, it's not that I dislike the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could be a good major league manager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so hard to look at and say,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that any other major league manager like if you threw Aaron Boone in there right now with with this giant roasters he getting more wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave Roberts are they getting more wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so and and again, is that a 20 V problem or is that a we've already mentioned it's up us to pose you problem because he bet on the bullpen and loss, but is it an overall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Organisational problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do Dave Roberts and the Dodgers have a leg up because they are so into analytics and and we are trying to do a little bit of both and maybe that's not working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really know that's why it's so hard for me to judge Tony V and what he's done with this team after half of a season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you're going to have another off season with Buster Posey and Tony V and my philosophy is not Zach Minassian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to get the hook after this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got to have a scapegoat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be the GM probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be Buster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be Tony.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to see an off season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: together again, and so that they can say this is what we need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what we saw this season, this is what we need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you can punch through, I mean, what are the 18 games on our 500 right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need nine more wins, nine more wins, and you're a 500 ball club, and the bullpen is absolutely cost you nine wins during this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The starting pitching, I was looking at it today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to look at quality starts, and I kind of look through and

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[SPEAKER_00]: web and uh... group are the only two guys are right around five hundred fifty percent of their starts or quality starts i started looking at other teams who have the same offense that the giants have and and just to see if that is that a big difference you need one more guy with quality starts um... you look at the Atlanta brave they have almost the same offense as the giants do

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they've got four guys with quality starts over 50% and they're like 16 games over 500.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, some bullpen moves, some starting pitching moves, this offense creates enough to win ball games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I can't look at 20 of you right now and say, you're screwing this up, man, because I...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not many other major league managers out there right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to get more winds out of this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually like the the chat's going on and I think these are some interesting points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to raise them and we can use this to continue this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Macho Grande fantastic name, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it over?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Macho Grande?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Says Bochi would look like he cares.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People rip on a dominance that he just wants to collect

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not playing well and how do you deal with that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said Vatelo looks like he just wants to get paid and get out He doesn't look like he wants to be here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's an interesting thing because we are Looking at this from a television viewpoint, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, we you can see some of the stuff that he says and in the post game pressures and in such

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't sense that Tony Vee doesn't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I sense that what he's fighting against a little bit is that he wants to make sure

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't look like a college coach in the way that he cares.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even want to wear his hearts on his sleeve because he knows that this is 162 games and not, I don't even know what a college season is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 60 games or whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he wants to be professional.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wants to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... a big leader he doesn't want to be a pretender and so he's there's some of that in there i also think and maybe this gets more to what what macho grondy means is that i don't know that he has the answers to some of the scenarios that are happening like let's say let's uh let's look at today's game

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Adamus is clearly frustrated because he thinks that the Empire is dropping them out of a situation where they caught a guy and it'll be, you know, we'll clear the base is clearly out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Empire changes the trajectory of the game by saying, nope, you pushed him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he's, he's, he's there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he's on second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What should Tony V have done at that point to calm everybody down?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think of, I think back of scenarios of which, like, you know, demanding coaches, hey, we still got the lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're up three zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to get one out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's play it one out at a time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This run, it's not the winning run here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's just play smart baseball and get out this sitting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's make sure that the damage isn't too poor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In this scenario, can't even talk to his team because it gets kicked out of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm sure he feels like I didn't even really do much to get kicked out of this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These empires know that they screwed up and they're probably pissed off that they screwed up in their embarrassed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, something out of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what would another manager have done in that scenario?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would a Bruce Boachie, because he mentioned Bruce because he mentioned Bruce Boachie, what would Bruce have done in that scenario?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Bruce would have got run from that game unless he was very frustrated at other calls in that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, if you're an umpire

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got a little bit more respect for Bruce there than you got than you for Tony V. You probably have a little bit more patience with Bruce than Tony V. So it's kind of hard to figure out like what could Tony V have done differently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I would have liked to see him look at a Domest and go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they job this man like let's let's get out of this and look at roof and go hey man you you should have been out of this situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I trust you to pitch through it let's get this guy out like that's what I you know that's probably maybe what he would have wanted to do but he got run so he couldn't do that and like that's kind of the scenarios that we're dealing with is they giants are put in these interesting predicaments and Tony V doesn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure that, you know, he was given the chance to have the right answers there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got run for basically questioning the call and he according to Tony V. He didn't even curse at the guy so he's not sure what's going on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's a tough one to decide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what he could have done there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm not sure many, and again, I'm going back to many managers, I'm not sure many other managers in the majors are in right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What have reacted any differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, speaking of Matt Chapman, here's where you're missing the leadership because I think at that point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's on the players to get together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Devours has already said he doesn't want to be the team leader.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know that, that's clear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, William Domus, maybe, you know, he can bring everybody to the mound and say, look, man, we got screwed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, let's get out of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's make up for a place and defense, you know, make your pitches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: let's go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that where a Patrick Bailey comes into play?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know because he didn't seem like he was that type of guy either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buster Posey for sure would have been that type of guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's for you, Mr. Matt Chabman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Matt Chabman's going to bring you together and say, let's get this go and man, everybody 10 a.m. let's talk about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Elvridge wants to be that guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be that guy someday, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: everything we've read he's not going to be at first base all the time is going to be the age can't come out of the dugout and get everybody on the map maybe he should have been the guy to come out to talk to group called call time with the entire the two accurate kid comes out and he wants to be that guy and I think he's going to be that guy Give me your two, but but I think Chapman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's where you miss that is is bringing everybody in and say hey, let's go man

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a great point because Drew Cavanaugh is your catcher in this game exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a goal glove or Whatever you think about Patrick Bailey's offense like he's actually from what I understand he's not he's it and kind of okay in Cleveland right now I mean he was hitting he wasn't in fantastic and I think he had a four for four day of the other That would have been that kind of pulled him out, but but other than that he's still not doing fans So yeah, like you don't have your goal glove catcher

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you don't have your gold glove third baseman and a Domus is having a frustrating season and he just gets jobed out by this empire and he's probably in his feelings they're frustrated and you know the season has been frustrating for him and yet a bit nice for divers to be like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got this dude you got this room you're good yeah who knows what he what what he said at that point but he like you said not that guy he doesn't want to be that guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, and everybody just went back to their positions and did their thing and and we saw what that thing is and we've seen that thing over here and so I don't know if I want to see that thing anymore, but we are going to this is the way it's going to be but I mean you know that kind of brings to the point now at this point you coming up to the trade deadline

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[SPEAKER_00]: a team of nine guys with very little experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just not going to work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Elliot Romus, I think, could be a leader, but again, in the dugout, you know, when you're hitting sure, but he's in the outfield, you need that, you need that in field guy and and and Chapman's one of those guys and person, I know Haruku hates it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I wouldn't mind seeing Travis stick around because I like his leadership and I like who he is and I like him being the face of the team he's just not he's he's not at that age where he can carry a team offensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's never been that guy either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's always been on teams with other offensive players who tell them out, but, you know, he's it that that leadership and that veteran presence is is huge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What if the giants were like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: were never we're not going to actually have a bullpin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have 11 starters and some of those starters will just kind of be long long men and they just will not consider themselves bullpin relievers because I think the bullpin is kind of doomed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The idea of the bullpin

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[SPEAKER_01]: the idea of the teller replacing the starting picture picture just turns my stomach because I'm not going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what if we just had you know, maybe we can bring back the uh remember they had that that little golf cart that they would bring the lyrics in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember that, they tried to bring that back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think like two or three years ago, two and a couple ball parts and people didn't like it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe we just get like, you know, every air like Adrian Houser, like actually, it's on a great example, but you know, guys like Houser and Mali, like they're just your bullpen arms and they just have to think like, nope, I'm a starter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just pitching the second half of the game today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I don't know, I don't know what the, what the solution is here other than the fact that they just have a bunch of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... junior varsity bullpen arms i i don't know i don't like yeah who would be the one would it be do you think it'd be killion who would actually fetch them something like like when other teams call the giants and say hey we're looking for a bullpen arm is there a guy who they're like yeah well we'll take this guy i i guess it's maybe it's killion and maybe you hit you put him in the seventh inning instead of the ninth inning where the giants kind of need to put him

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw Jim Bowden's right up and and it was Eric Miller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was Eric Miller and Casey Schmidt to Seattle for Logan Gilbert that's the trade that Metro Grande is talking about right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think that's the one was it Logan Gilbert.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have so many good starting pitchers, and that was the other thing too that Bowden mentioned is that they've got two top prospects, just knocking on the door, starting pitchers ready to come up to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they can afford to get rid of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he makes like 6 million these got three years of arbitration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of enticing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you do have to give up a case

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's funny about Gilbert is he was the comp for Jackson Flora, who would the giant straffed it in the first round this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I saw him as a comparison to what Flora could be like in the bigs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that'd be kind of nice to have those, you know, be able to lock up Logan Gilbert for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got web Gilbert and then you've got Flora who comes up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that'd be a really nice rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get a lot of quality starts that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You would you would need a leftier too to mix in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and you know, maybe it's the Wiz kid who knows.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's up now isn't he up because Who's who got hurt?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he other day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: T. J. McDonald.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Trevor McDonnell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Trevor McDonnell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I keep saying T. J. McDonald because of the ram's for T. J.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, I'll just call them old McDonald ever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, this is, this is the, I feel like when we talk about this, it's kind of like deja vu, because it's always been talking about the way they continue to lose these games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know how else to kind of document this season, then to continue bringing up the issues with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ghost of a gear light is says the car brewers game it's over rabbit of this is their season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I I'm they still need to be the Dodgers as far as I'm concerned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The the Dodgers are like I like the brewers I will root for the brewers if it gets there I will I will root for the braves even though I don't not the biggest fan of the braves kind of anybody but the Dodgers at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm not sure the brewers have to get over that humpman because the Dodgers kind of treat them like, like, you know, Pedro Martinez, you say the Yankees were his daddy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of the feeling I get with brewers and Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the brewers will have to, you know, impress everybody here to for me to consider that they can take out the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, well, they couldn't do it last year and everybody thought they would.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, you know what I mean, when you get to the playoffs that's different beast and the the Dodgers hate to say, but they have so much talent and not even just the talent, they just have the guys who have been there before and and when you keep going, you keep going and you keep going to the playoffs, you get the experience and yes, what matters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we want, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm that that Logan Webb has only made one postseason start in his giant square.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we had that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had that 10 plus years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's come like, we kind of made the playoffs like almost every other year that I was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Donald for the Rams is starting to feel that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, hey, you're, you, you, you, you, you, you,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys are going to play out again a lot?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk a little bit about this deadline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You brought up or in the chat, Macho Grande brought up the idea of Casey Schmidt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is an interesting one because I think we've been waiting for this version of Casey Schmidt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: since he was a rookie or a prospect, we've been like, if he just had his position and he puts the bat together, he could be a good player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that giants themselves did not believe this version of case he Schmidt was going to exist or else they wouldn't have signed chat and twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right they they would have just been like oh no we got someone who's waiting in the wings but they were like nope we need Chapman he's going to fill that need for us and a case is going to be more of a utility guy casey Schmidt this year is having a much better season than mad Chapman in every scenario of

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[SPEAKER_01]: doing a good job in earning your spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Casey Schmidt serves to play third base, but because of how much they pay Matt Chapman, once he's healthy, he's gonna be back there and he's gonna boot Schmidt back around the diamond.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless they can trade Chapman, which I don't believe that they will, or that they could at this point, because you're basically selling as low as you possibly can on Chapman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he is an interesting trade piece

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[SPEAKER_01]: the bet if you're the giants is that this is not really who he is versus what I think us fans believe which is this is the case that we've always been waiting for and I do wonder how the giants feel about him because if he is a guy who could fetch them something maybe he's more

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[SPEAKER_01]: on their team who they will be willing to sell, I do wonder if he is worth trading at this point, even though I think fans would be really upset to see him go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I think if I feel strongly, I should I say that if they were to trade, Schmidt at this trade deadline, they are selling high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be wrong because I wanted to have a long, nice career, but I kind of feel like I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just kind of feel like this might be a one off season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just saw Cal Rally hit 60 home runs last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now he's hitting 190 with 10 home runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, are you talking about the big slumber?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I mean, I kind of feel like at 27 when all of a sudden he puts it together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: this could be it, this could be his season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a guy who often gets injured, we saw some injuries last year, a little tweaks here and there, doesn't miss many games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a huge plus, that's a huge selling point if you're looking to get him to a playoff team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I kind of feel like they would be selling high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would like him to stick around because I think he could also be a team leader He could be quote unquote that veteran even though this is his first big season Then he's 27.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think in the next couple seasons again, Park's Harbor Bo Davidson All these guys coming through Gavin Killin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I Don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's a really tough one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hate to see him go, but if we got a nice haul back

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could get over it, but I need to see that all, unfortunately, we have no saying that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, here's the other thing from a PR perspective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you do trade casey Schmidt, then you're saying, okay, Matt Chapman is our guy at the same time, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that would be frustrating for some of the fans who think that like Haruko and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or I guess Haruku Hito, Haruku Hito, Haruku Hitoki is, is, is, is, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be frustrating to those folks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I, I think it's all, it's all relative based on what teams see in Schmidt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If there are teams who are like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: bye bye by Casey Schmidt, then the giants may sell high.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think they should sell Casey Schmidt unless there is a team that maybe overvalues him even more than the giants currently value him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a good place to be for Casey Schmidt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now here's the other thing is the giants if the giants do believe that he has turned the corner, then maybe they do

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[SPEAKER_01]: put him in the highest esteem, and they don't just sell him because they can attach him to somebody else to possibly sell that person, like say, a Domus, which I don't think is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of imagine, you know, talk about selling low, like can you sell any lower than really a Domus in 2026?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you sell any lower than, then, then Devers, even though Devers is picking his bad is picking up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just that that contract seems like an albatross right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Macho Grande has another option of of Ramos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you flip Ramos as he kind of in the same space as a case he's case he Schmidt because you have options on those guys like they're they're not gonna hit free agency so they're more valuable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And here's an interesting one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who would you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you were Buster and you had to choose between one of those guys to keep, would you keep Robo?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or would you keep Schmidt?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, here's the funny thing is like, like you said, you don't want to leave yourself with Chapman at third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you could also move Chapman too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can move Chapman and Schmidt and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know who would play a third base right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'd have to look at the minor league roster, the AAA roster, but in the offseason, you can find yourself a third baseman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can trade for a third baseman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could do different things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or you could add a Domest to a third base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can move a Domest to third is Bo David's in the real deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So do you move, Elliot, Ramos to make room for Bo David's in and left field?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's an option too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I had to keep one or the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In my heart, I really like Elliot Ramos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the way he plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is a little bit of a goofhead every now and then, as some of his stuff, he does in left field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and he's cut way back on that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's a much better left fielder this year than he was last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's give him massive credit for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Base running blunders are gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen any of those from him this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Casey Schmidt is a gamer who could play so many.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Casey, you should make a play left field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You should trade wrong ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Casey Schmidt and left field when Chapman comes back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but still, I like Rama so much and to have him and I just, I kind of gravitate more towards Alfielders a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, to me, he's a bit more valuable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think I hang on to Rama's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'd lean towards Schmidt, but I would lean towards him because I think he has proven even if the bat isn't what it is this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's proven defensively that he can he can be really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you can plug him in and not have to worry about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there is something about a guy who understands his role and he understands that, hey, I may not be starting at my favorite position every game, but I could just gotta be ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ramos isn't necessarily that stay ready guy, but Ramos is a guy who just can get hot and rip you, you know, offline drive after line drive after line drive after line drive after line drive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would lean shrimp, but like, you know, both of them have value.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just hope that the giants do not punt and take lower than their value.

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[SPEAKER_01]: being that they're such not in the driver's seat on so many of these contracts, but they are in the driver's seat with both of these guys, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just hope that it doesn't come down to it where you have to give one of these guys away just to have someone take your money, which would be unfortunate, but it is also a strategy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to know, go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I was just going to say, and also looking at Macho Grande's message there too, I think I don't know if there's a team that you could send brahamos and Schmidt to in the same deal that they would have enough prospects that they want to send back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because those, I mean, you're going to get some good prospects for both of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't know if there's a team other than, you know, he'd say, but other than the Dodgers who have them, the giants are

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[SPEAKER_01]: goes to the journalist had an interesting comment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said the caps that we are wearing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said yours is classic trustworthy like a good dad picking up his kids and mine is the uncle spent time at Burning Man and has alien theories.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you ever been to Burning Man?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never been to Burning Man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We live like 45 minutes to an hour from it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have no, we've never gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the burners come through town every time, every August and September, we wait for the burners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They come through, they leave their dusty trucks everywhere and they dump their trash in places they shouldn't dump their trash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because of them,

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you go to like the local Walmart in the summer, there's camping gear sections and you go to like REI there's camping gear sections you are not allowed it is purchase and no return because too many times burning man people have come through and purchase sleeping bags and all kinds of other stuff tents and then return them so they're camping stuff anymore so yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: return them and they're all dirty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know they ruined it for everybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bernie man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean at this point in our life, I think we're both the soccer dad type, but I've never been a burning man and I don't it's not my style, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're both, I think we're both a soccer dad type leaning towards leaning towards, you know, fifty-year-old hippies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're, you know, it's all good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, so let's see the next thing I wanted to talk about was our guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: None other than Bryce Eldridge, because Bryce Eldridge, now I want to preface this by saying I don't think Bryce Eldridge is going to win the rookie of the year that there's not what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what I am saying though,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is that if he keeps playing good baseball, he can sneak up the chart here when it comes to the odds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was gonna give you the odds of our NL rookie of the year favorites.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now this is an ESPN list from Doug Greenberg and this was published last two days ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I already have my favorite, so I know my favorite for the nationally rookie of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so the favorite is JJ Weatherhold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a minus 165 in the betting odds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sal Stewart is a plus 280, he is second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As Merlin Valdez from the Padre's, I mean, the Pirates not the Padre's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: From the Pirates is third, though,

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[SPEAKER_01]: his, he's only had a 112 A.B.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He only played the 33 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of interesting to see that he's third with the odds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 13 jacks hit in 295, 1.093, OPS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's done a lot of damage in a short amount of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, then it's Carson, is it bang or binge?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know from the Met House of Spill?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think it's I think it's Benge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Carson Ben.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do I remember?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't heard his name in a while, but yeah, currently has 11 jacks in 373 ABs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, steady, steady youngster here with a 720 OPS, not fantastic, but, you know, youngster playing right field for the metts and the metts are in a down year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another mette

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nolan McLean is he's seven and six with the three three four ERA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also started the gold metal game for the TMI USA during the WBC and we did not win and his odds are you see what do I have his odds at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is an 18 to one tied with Nolan McLean.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is Young Bryce Eldridge 265 10 jacks 827 OPS I am going to say that when it's all said and done Bryce Eldridge is going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: break I don't I don't know if he he will break into the top three, but I think he's going to be right there with Valdez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's going to be able to catch a South Stewart because South Stewart's got 21 jacks or JJ weatherhole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have JJ weatherhole on a a dynasty fantasy league team and it's been really fun to watch him as a rookie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So those are the two guys that I think are head and shoulders above, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Eldridge should essentially just play every day like I don't know if he should take a day off for the rest of the season and I mean if he's tired just the age of He doesn't play first base that much But I don't know I think I think he's got a real good opportunity to end the season with 20 25 jacks if if he continues to play well He's 21 you don't get tired

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, maybe overwhelmed, maybe you know, you haven't played, you can hit a wall sometimes because you've Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He games

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think he's going to go on another little tear, you know, the weather is warm, anytime they go away from Oracle, he'll pop a few more out, but yeah, I JJ weather holds going to be the guy because also if you throw in weather holds defense, he might win the gold glove in second base and then you add that to he want to go glove and he's rookie

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think I think Eldridge could sneak into the top three, but he's got to have a really, really good month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, start kicking it off now and have a tremendous August, and I think he could punch his way in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's going to be tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just nice to, it's just nice to finally have them up and play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And every day, I like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like to be able to watch as that bats and watch and get some knocks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even knocks up the middle, you go, hey, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, there's, there's our guy there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least he's not just, you know, a home run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because we thought, you know, all we heard from everybody is he's going to come up in it 45 jacks and he's going to strike out 230 times and he's going to hit 210.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he, you know, what we've got right now is a guy who's hitting, what, 26270 was just hitting 280 is a little bit of a slump right now, but he hits home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He walks, he gets on base and, and that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's like, will Clark's type of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you get on base, you hit home runs, you get knocks when you need them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to, I think he's just going to keep blossoming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very excited for, for Eldridge's future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's one reason to continue to watch Giants games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to watch him anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're all cup kind of took over a little bit for me for a while there, but now that's over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm back to watching, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty much all of the games and as much as I can, as frustrating as it is, as much tons that I have to eat while I'm watching the games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still enjoying them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The thing that I can say about Eldridge, and this is how I feel about him and where I think he's going,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm not watching the game live, I always have my Apple Sports app alert me when anything's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I could, you know, if I have my phone, I can see all the pitch by pitch, but I'll get an alert if something happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what happens is my watch will vibrate if a score changes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I look at my watch and I'll go, oh, the giants went up one zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll then look at my phone to see how they did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the last few times, I've said this out loud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Elderge had something to do with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, yeah, Elderge walked went to second on a base hit, scored on a base hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Eldridge, Eldridge hit hit somebody in to to give the giant to lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because of the fact that he gets on base, I think he's going to lead the team in walks when it's all said and done, which is kind of crazy because he has a lot of that much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when you know that he's going to be in this going back to you will Clark thing will Clark pretty darn good RBI man, but what did he also do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He scored a lot of runs because he walked a lot and he set the table for the hitters behind him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now the giant still need to have the hitters behind

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[SPEAKER_01]: Casey Schmidt is still hitting decently though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, you know, he's not hitting it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not as hot as he was before the y'all start break So those things still need to happen, but I think he's, you know, he is making things happen Because he's getting on base and then when he gets a mistake he's put that thing, you know, out out of the park So it's just fun to see that guy at such a young age already kind of figure things out now next year what's gonna happen

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[SPEAKER_01]: teams will have a whole off season and they're like, well, we know how to get Rafi out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes he's going to sometimes he's going to hit over the fence, but, you know, we kind of, we've seen years and years of him, so we know how to pitch him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we know how to get Willie out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just got to throw ball above his letters and he's going to swing at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the eldritch kid who we need to figure out how to get out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to study tons of eldritch at bats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to look for his

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of figuring out how to counter what the teams and how they're going to pitch them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be what next year is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for this year, I think I'm just looking forward to seeing him continue to play well and continue to

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[SPEAKER_01]: extend these at bats and you know the eye sometimes that's going to mean that he's going to take take some call third strike or swing at some call swing at strike three a lot you know I know a lot of people were frustrated at some of those Brandon belt abes because Brandon belt would take close pitches because he trusted his eye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Eldritch is a little bit more of a swinger than belt was, you know, when it comes to that, but it comes to protecting and such, but it's kind of cool to see because you want to see the growth of a player in his early days, and I think we're seeing like some amazing growth so early on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, and he's going to get a full spring in camp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he hasn't had that before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's had going there with the hopes with making the team, going there with the hopes of being able to stick it through the entire spring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then stay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This spring was one of those teases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is he going to do it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is he going to do it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is he going to do it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they sent them back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he hits a home run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with the river cats against the giants in an exhibition game right after they sent them, you know, and said, you're not going to make the opening day roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this year he's coming into Camp Nou and I'm the guy, I'm on this team, I'm on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just going to get better and better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: next week we'll be able to make our kind of trade deadline predictions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll stay we'll hold off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe there will be trades between now and thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could be either what is the deadline August 3rd August 3rd.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's end this with some thoughts on what the giants did in the in their draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted Flora and a lot of this is because I did not want Lombard after talking to my friend Jared from baseball perspective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He kind of told me he's like, look, I don't know if this guy's ever going to hit his hit tool is kind of all over the place, so I was like, okay, I'm in on floor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get flora.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it looks like, you know, the giant should try to do some stuff with with rock, but rock, and the what was the white socks top pick, and then Emerson was number two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So kind of went chalk in that way, and then the floor was right there for the giant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they made that pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was very happy with that, and then they made.

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[SPEAKER_01]: their their comp pick Carson bullman who is a high school lefty and you know when when when when when you're left handed and in your name is Carson I was like oh the whiz he's like whiz and suddenly all the Carson's yeah that was they're saying then they went right hander high school right hander with their third pick which is round two and then

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[SPEAKER_01]: They drafted the nephew of Perry bonds, paint bonds and I immediately went to Keith Law to see what he said about the pick and he's like, yeah, they probably drafted him a little higher just because they wanted him because of his last name, but hey, you know, he's got tools, you know, just that high.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You maybe want a guy who's a little bit more for sure thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they got Peyton bonds and then just guys that you and I would kind of remember because of who their dad's were Luke Nixon

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's Trots Kid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that Trots Kid?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe so, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Son of sort of reformer Red Sox Alphayler, Trot Nixon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a name from the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got a Josiah Camp, who is the nephew of Matt Camp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Geez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they got their names.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're just getting some really solid last name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, hey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, pedigree matters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The giants have had three different bonds as play in their system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you actually played against Bobby Jr. at some point, didn't you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In a semi-pro League, he had made an appearance with the Palo Alto Oaks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was kind of a team that had a lot of guys in the summer league from

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[SPEAKER_00]: from Stanford and past Stanford grads, but he showed up on the team one day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just like, I think I hit, I think I hit a ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't, yeah, it wasn't like a screaming line drive in the gap or anything, but I hit one on the gap and he just glided to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I remember when he was in the system and, you know, they were kind of sending them through the miners with the giants and it was kind of like his last shot at at

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this was after all of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It had to be, I was looking at it up trying to remember the years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was 96 or 97 because that was after he had been through the miners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think he came back to playing the independent leagues like a year or two later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in that time, I think he was just kind of floating around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because it wasn't a very, you know, it was a semi-pro League where it was like, hey, what are you doing today?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need an Alfielder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was that kind of league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and don't forget to bring your your money for the empires.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You lose your hat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had to buy a new one too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, it was in Palo Alto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm I'm sure you probably just live nearby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the bonds was in that area.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably bonds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Junior's 56 years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just so that's only three years older than me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we were on the same page playing ball at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so yeah, we'll be back next week and it'll be a little bit more of a I'm interested, you know, I'm waiting to see If Buster were to show any signs of what he's possibly doing and I think arise and Robbie race kind of cats out of the bag on those guys the teams know that those guys are very available And I just hope that we're not, you know, we're not selling low like hold strong Buster like you don't have to give up

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, give, give these guys away just because everyone knows you're giving them away, but they need to, you know, that they're, they're, they're bringing this, uh, that, this, um, This farms is some backup to speed, you know, it's, it's definitely like something that we've been wanting them to do and farhound was kind of brought in to kind of, you know, to to lead this thing and you know, the chance for kind of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When Farhan got here, they were near the bottom and Farhan got him kind of closer to the middle and now they're doing, you know, there's in some, some analysis have said top 10, and maybe you can get a haul, especially for someone like a rise who you didn't give up anything for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a free agent guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Robby Ray, I think you've got all your value out of him from what you traded him for, which was Mighty Mitch Hanager.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And and so like you're you're winning those deals as long as you get some some decent prospects back so I'm not really worried about those guys there they're probably going to go But I mentioned in these other guys that we talked about was Schmidt Ramos and those are the ones where you're like

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[SPEAKER_01]: got to make sure that these are smart deals because these guys could play on good baseball teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could be contributors on good baseball teams, which is where you hope we're going in the next couple of years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Mottro Grande said say same day, same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think meaning when we're coming back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, right now, we are not going on Mondays because I have a commitment on Mondays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're kind of looking during the week at what the best day during the week Tuesday through Thursday is now some of the days like today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The judge had an early game so we could come on after the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We could talk about the game sometimes they'll have a day off like tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a day off and if they didn't have a day game today, we would have gone Thursday instead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll have to look at the schedule, but we are just off of Mondays for the near future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back on Mondays when my thing is over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just check in and we will alert you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see the stream come up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I can,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I will, uh, and you know, by the way, Macho Grande, uh, and, uh, and others who are in this chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you guys want to come through to the discord, like, you know, we are our giant section of the discord, uh, is, uh, is, uh, is I would say it's lacking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: there's some conversation going in there mostly about prospects but we if we had more folks in the discord then you'd know exactly when our schedule is so if you're a discord person come through if not no biggie will be here and you can check us out and I appreciate you coming in as well and hanging out so you you can also hit the bell if you're on YouTube watching this you can hit the bell on under our account

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[SPEAKER_00]: and make sure you subscribe and have your notifications on and like I mean that's kind of how I keep up with live streamers on YouTube quite often is just get those notifications you'll know when they're going to go live and hop in just kind of hang out for a couple of minutes and then they're live so and we do the same thing so you could hit that bell and yeah get those uh get those notifications.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah as just so yeah our schedule is a little inconsistent right now

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll be back to normal in probably a month or two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But okay, I appreciate you all for hanging in Macho Grande and Ruku and Gostav Geralitis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a Valkyries podcast more than likely tomorrow, late afternoon, so for you Valkyries fans, we're going to go live tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I thought there was one other person in here that I can't remember their names.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for Brad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am double G and we will see you when we see you peace out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peace.