Valkyries Trade Deadline Talk, All-Star Game Thoughts & Second Half Preview | Podhalla

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: it is time for pot holla and conrado is here with me Brian is not with us yet though he is on his way home he said San Francisco traffic was cooking him right now but uh... he's gonna jump on when he gets home but we wanted to get started on time uh... and uh... and get get the second half going here for the valkyries um...

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess let's start with the all-star game stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't really follow that closely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mostly wanted to see Janelle in the three-point shootout.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We all correctly picked that Asi was going to win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She won the, I guess that shooting challenge that they did was kind of cool to see the older stars out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I still think that they can do way more with that show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a one hour show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There, I mean, they could do something with like three on three or I don't know what I don't know what else you can do, but it just seems like kind of an afterthought and then the game itself how much of the game did you catch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I had it on, like I had it on, um, you know, I wasn't paying close attention.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is not like my normal, you know, like game game, you know, like live breakdowns or anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But obviously, you know, I wanted to tune in, I wanted to see how, you know, Gabby did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She did, you know, she did great, you know, in terms of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the spirit of competition, let's put it that way, you know, and I think she had a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was about it, you know, I mean, like I said, just kind of kept it on, but it's not like I was expecting a competitive game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they made it very clear, you know, like on all the pre game interviews that it was just going to be a very lighthearted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't even say scrimmage, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just kind of like just kind of going through the motions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk a little bit about

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gabby, of course, really the main reason to pay attention for us, she's looked like she belonged out there, which was awesome, because I think she does belong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She hadn't, you know, there have been people who made the All-Star team like year after year after year after year after year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How many times has she been on there, do you know?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is, I believe, I believe that's her second time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the first time starting, so that was really cool to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then she had the

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[SPEAKER_02]: the one foot runner from three, which was, uh, which was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure she was inspired by somebody to shoot that shot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, some very much so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: who does that often.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I just liked seeing her out there and look this game, you know, outside of I guess Caitlin, who was trying to shoot from as far as possible.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she kind of got an early steal and, you know, she was pretty amped up the plate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like it was just, it would remind me of the the men's side of the all-star game where there are people who are kind of running a half speed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they're trying to make some nice passes, but no one's really trying to play defense, and I don't think the game got close enough in the end for them to kind of go, okay, two minutes left who's going to win this thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So ultimately, I think I was just disappointed in the game, but I kind of expected to be so no harm, no foul there, but it sounds like from a.

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[SPEAKER_02]: like an all-star break weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some good things came out of it for the WNBA.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know that the reporters who were there stressed that this is way different from last year when last year was all about the labor stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The players seemed to be so free and energized and it looks like everyone was having a good time at the parties and such.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So glad that there was a good feel for that weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: then you kind of get kicked off for the second half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, definitely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think there actually were some kind of fun and if not potentially like informative takeaways, informative in the sense of like you said, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You feel like there is more that they can continue to do to kind of, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: expand and innovate with making not only the all-star game or the all-star festivities you know more captivating but also more engaging you know I think the shooting stars competition I think a lot of fans came away really captivated by the high school players that participate in the competition right the EYBL players right like like Gigi Banks for example right and unlike

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I feel like the reason why, one of the reasons why WNBA fans, or women's basketball fans, definitely feel more affinity towards players that enter the WNBA, like when rookie's enter the league, is because they've seen them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a longer time where you're seeing them develop, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, more often than not, players are, you know, playing all four years, if not five years in college.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what I'm trying to get at is I like that there is an opportunity here where the league can kind of again kind of begin to showcase.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the potential stars or like the, you know, the big names of the next generation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that went, I think that resonated really well with fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's something they could potentially lean more into.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then as you said,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, especially given that it's the 30th anniversary of the WNBA, I feel like they could have done a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for the, you know, kind of, the legends that showed up, I mean, they picked a good number, like they picked a good handful of players who, I mean, obviously it's a shooting competition, but they're still very much visible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like their respective fan bases,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Elena Deladon could overact from a shooting competition, but I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the movement skill, she at least appears to be fit, you know, and a, you know, one of my colleagues Nick Andre, he made a competition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like if she were to come back,

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[SPEAKER_00]: try need to be on a team that kind of plays at a relatively slow pace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know of a team plays at a relatively slow pace and could use another fun court edition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, I think there's just, um, there's a, there's a good template there, you know, because I think a lot of fans and the players themselves, they came out of this all-star game with a sense of excitement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And really, I think a lot more enthusiasm of what future

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, weekend could look like, you know, and, you know, since this is a Valkyrie's podcast, let's just say it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is something that like was one of my big takeaways at the end, Nekha Guimake had mentioned that a lot of players were kind of, you know, I don't know, necessarily petitioning, but really kind of trying to throw the idea out there that golden state should host.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the next all star game if not one in the very near future.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we've seen the success of the Bay Area, you know, hosting the NBA all star game, the World Cup, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I think there would be like a lot of excitement if the Bay Area was given the opportunity to present the or two hosts the all star game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I saw that coming out too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a good opportunity to bring Brian in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Brian, what do you think of the shooting stars challenge being the way for us to get a new player?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Rather than this trade deadline that we'll talk about in a little bit, that would be wild.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How old is she, by the way?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just not that old.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like she retired when she was still like really, really good, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember there was a conversation about Kim the Valkyrie's take her in the expansion draft and that Washington would have to like protect her at the time if they use 36.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, man, we, you know, split the, you know, we can,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Give her, you know, not, not, she has to play that many minutes just when we need a bucket, then you just bring her in the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's talk about the, the, the practice that they just had and if you follow Konrado on Twitter, you'll note that he, he added his practice notes to his socials.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Konrado, what, what were some takeaways from practice yesterday?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very lively, you know, definitely a very lively practice, it's weird, you know, I mean like the WNB all start break, it's like the only off for like a couple days right so I mean like, you know, it's not like they hadn't seen each other recently and then several of them went to all start weekend so you know they were hanging out, but for the practice itself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, definitely again, just a lot of skill work, a lot of, you know, kind of breaking up into groups and kind of working on like, you know, positional drills and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously today was a travel day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're probably already in Phoenix by now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know, there is just a,

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[SPEAKER_00]: While it was lively, it was just very much a sense of everyone, like everyone acknowledged, I'll start, they all start break was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But...

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, in the recurring theme of this team being like, you know, chemistry, the C words, chemistry, connectivity, right, everyone's on the same page, which is while all star break was fun, no, right, like we're right back in or focused, and yeah, there's that other C word, which is championship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like they're very much locked in, you know, and regardless of what maybe people on the outside may think that is not just something they say as a goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think they really firmly believe that they are in the mix to be a championship contender.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you know, I just spoke briefly with Janelle Salon, Katelyn Chen and Natalie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I mean, I think you saw it in some of my notes, but the theme was that they believe that they could do better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like they truly believe they could do better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I thought was, and I know it's like Janelle, but, you know, like the fact that like she did acknowledge that she believes they could be better, like in all facets, but when she made it about herself, she's like, I could shoot better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's like, I could shoot more effect, like more efficiently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could shoot even more threes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, this is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is insane, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then Natalie, which I think a lot of people kind of picked up,

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[SPEAKER_00]: was she in hesitate right she does not like just let in saying defense can be better she doesn't care what their you know ranking is defensively she's aware but she made some good points but yeah I kind of I didn't I wouldn't say I pressed her but I was the one who kind of asked her about how she kind of envisions managing the team given that they play for about a

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they come back for another week and a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the playoff starts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think that was like probably one of the more informative things for me was that she said that they've for a while now they've had like she and the training staff have a plan of how they intend to manage each player's minutes, you know, how they kind of want to pace them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that even for the players that are going to be playing in the the feeble world cup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that when they return, they're still going to be as fresh as possible for that, you know, final final playoff push.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, yeah, just again, a lot of focus from the players and coaching staff all around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we can actually let this lead into a little bit more of a conversation around the trade deadline, which is this upcoming Sunday, August the second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: in the NBA, for instance, if the warriors were around the trade deadline, the reporters would just be peppering whether it's curl or done leavey or anybody about the possibility of who you can add, who you may add, what is the, you know, there's their strategy here for looking, are you

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you think that that conversation is going to happen with the with the Valkyries as far as like how they're approached this this week being that, you know, record-wise, they're second to to just the links in a half a game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think half a game in front of the ACEs, like the idea that

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[SPEAKER_02]: obviously the report this is a second year team so they've never really been in the scenario where you're like oh you guys actually can build upon a team to possibly chase a championship.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you sense that that there's going to be any sort of conversation around that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like our reporters going to be trying to press the team for any information around you guys have any targets or they or the conversation going to be more about like

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, how do you improve upon the second half?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really have no idea what that rhythm is supposed to be like, actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, big time Valks reporter, Kenzo Fakuta of Clutch points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He and I were actually talking about that yesterday, at least for us, from the media's perspective, or like our game plan is we time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when we bring up certain subjects, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I feel like when you time it correctly, you kind of get at least a more thorough or thought out response.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think given that, you know, they have the game, they just came back from all starbreak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like for example, Gabby was an participating yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She got the day off, but then she actually, I don't know if you saw on social media, she had that really cool meet and greet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those coffee, I was invited to cover it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably missed out, looked like a great time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think, given that after tomorrow, they have what, they're not off, but they don't play again until Sunday, and obviously the trade deadline in Sunday, that kind of gives us an opportunity to, I wouldn't say, press them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to inquire more about how they want to handle it,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably not ideal to ask players like, hey, do you think you're getting traded?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So right after like, hey, how was your all-star break?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, yeah, no, I think those things will definitely be covered from the media perspective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: From the Vox internally, at least from what I've heard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: from people who I trust in the know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's been a lot of conversations and they're doing their due diligence as they should.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure you could say that for all like other, like the 14 other teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there has been, they have been fielding calls well before this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of an interesting to see like what kind of exploratory talks that they've had.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Brian, you saw the same tweet that I saw this morning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Any possible wrote a story about the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And her two big names in that story were Kelsey Plum in Nefisa.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And immediately I saw Valks fans kind of dig into the idea of would you or would you not trade for Kelsey Plum?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will caveat that by saying, Kelsey Plum is on a one year deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you are really interested in bringing her onto your team, you probably wait until the free agent period.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you are a team that is looking to add and maybe you think you can talk her into sticking around, or maybe you are a team that knows that she wants to play for your organization and you do the trade for, I just think that it'll be interesting to see how that's handled because of the idea that she's free agent, what did you think of any story that that came out with those two big names?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I feel like we've been seeing the Kelsey Plum name thrown around a little bit which and I just think the Valkyries are in a really interesting position here where what are the two or three seed right now and it feels like they can beat any team except for two and

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's an opportunity where if you finish in a certain part of the bracket, like maybe you can avoid it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of those teams in the playoffs and I think that There there is an opportunity to win a championship this year and I think you do need to do something in order to make that more of like a realistic thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been I texted you guys this morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm not really for the Kelsey plumb Valkyries like you know for KP to be on the Valkyries and it's more so just because of like the identity and the defensive culture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like they've built especially with Burton Burton and Williams is like

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[SPEAKER_01]: this menacing back court duo defensively.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just don't want to mess with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think that's just, you know, so perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think, you know, can router you, you put this in your piece about the stay ready group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Nat said something along the lines of like, you know, everyone on this team can, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: play off the bench or there's just different because of the selflessness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a different variety of things we could do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now Gabby Williams is not going to go on the bench.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the selflessness is a big thing and not to take Kelsey Plum's selfish per se, but she would come in as the obvious best player on the team, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's someone who's having an incredible individual season, someone who is a player that can get into MVP talks and I think when it comes to

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, like self selfishness, I think if you're an incredible offensive player, that's just you kind of have to be a little selfish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think for people who play defense and defense is like your main thing, and if you're a two-way player, like Gabby, and I think that it's there's there's less of the selfishness and more of an understanding of like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, defense is your main thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know, I think there's something with the offense of players that you kind of have to be a little selfish to be really good at offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't want to mess with like what they got going right now in the starting lineup, unless it's another Gabby Williams-like player when it comes to two-way ability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And who is available that matches that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's a small list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If, you know, I have like maybe two

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool to see, you know, the velcro is thrown around in a conversation like that, but yeah, I just am on on the side of like I think the, you know, those quotes from Natalie matter, I think the camaraderie they got going right now matters and I think that if you're going to make a change, don't completely throw off the hierarchy midseason do that in the offseason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I definitely understand that perspective since I'm probably not going to have time to write an article about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just say it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that the Valkyries are like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're one piece away from firmly being like a legitimate like tier one championship contender.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I definitely understand the people who say they need another like legitimate shock creator and then a two way kind of low post presence, I don't disagree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they have the ability to pull off both, you know, like if they were really

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, bring in someone who could be a potential a different smaker at both positions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think they have the ability, you know, or just even the flexibility, the cap flexibility, to be able to do both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, just kind of given

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[SPEAKER_00]: The landscape of the league, I think they can be tier one like firmly in tier one, not the favorite, but like right there with Minnesota or Vegas, wherever you fancy, like a real contender.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they make one of those two moves, and for me, I'm kind of the opposite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually think, and again, not to make the Warriors parallel,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that their defense, like the infrastructure that they have defensively, is strong enough that

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[SPEAKER_00]: they can basically bring in a more offensively oriented player that could potentially kind of be insulated where they're not a defensive liability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I were to, and so basically what I'm trying to get at is yes, I think of the potential players that they could bring in that they could actually bring in that they could make salary matching wise and everything and a deal that would make sense for both parties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Kelsey Plum is that player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I will remind fans that, you know, Kelsey Plum was one of the first, if not the first free agent that the values hosted, you know, in free agency two summers ago, you know, that there is mutual interest and frankly, if they were to bring her in, who would know her better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Natalie Mikase, you know, and I will stick up for Kelsey Plum because this I think there's this misconception that she isn't like that she's a bad defender.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She may not be a positive like, you know, a plus defensive playmaker actually if you probably does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: do adequately with regards to like steals and everything like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But point being though, is I mean, I don't think she's a defensive liability, you know, you can't be a part of multiple aces teams that were first in defensive rating and just be a defensive liability.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could be the weakest defender in the starting lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think there's a big difference there, you know, um.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm also one of the echo for you that I was making trades earlier today and I did say that I would pitch some trades to you to see what you thought, but I just kept running into the same issue where it's like if you go for Shakira Austin or if you go for asy like they're making like 1.2 million or you like you go for

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, like, you know, there's just these names out here that are making over a million dollars and you have to start pairing together a ton of Alcaris players like a Kyle of Charles, like a, you know, a me here is making in the twos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Kyle is making in the fives and you just got to get to that number because they're so close to the cap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like hard to make these trades, Kelsey's like, what, a dollar below a million dollars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like, it's a little, I think it's easier probably to pair together that move and make

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[SPEAKER_00]: there's not many stars who seem to be available that she are in that range a thing about it too is like again when you see these reports and to be clear and I have nothing against any constable but I mean I feel all that heard her piece today was more of a speculation sensation than actually anything like you know I mean I mean I mean I'm a mistake she hears things but you're trying to like you know connect dots that may or may not be there I was put that way right

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[SPEAKER_00]: more to the not like if someone if I come across information like this behind the scenes or if any does right it's we come across it because someone wants it to be out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think with Plum, again, given that she was cord, you know, I mean, she basically does have to approve of any trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think, you know, keeping that in mind that it's almost like tantamount and not necessarily no trade clause, but right, she has to approve of a trade and the fact that she is an expiring contract, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then now she's saying that, you know, there's giving note the team the sparks know, you know, kind of commitment to extending with them past the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trying to kind of take away some of the trade leverage from the sparks to make her more available potentially to the the destination she would prefer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm just saying maybe I'm connecting dots to but I feel like it kind of all those circumstances it kind of creates a situation where it's more likely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that the Valkyries would be willing to pull the trigger on a player like Kelsey Plum.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to be frank, too, like, you know, we do have some young players, you know, with some intrigue or upside.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I think that's why and only the sparks truly know, well, I don't really know what they know, or if they know what they wanna do moving forward, but if they do wanna finally do what they should have done three seasons ago and build around youth,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then yeah, you know, acquiring a draft pick or two and maybe a young player who's on a cost-controlled contract, you know, that might be more appealing, you know, so we'll see, but yeah, as Brian said, I think is again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think plom is just, it's so much, she's significantly more attainable, I think, than any of the bigs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And make no mistake.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think those bigs would be fantastic, but I think that's a move for the off season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a great topic as you can tell if you're watching the chat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to bring in a couple of questions so that we could answer them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So media, Maverick says, why not wait until next season?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't have the flexibility for her and she's just coming off injury.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the one thing I want to mention is the reason to bring her in would be because you believe you have almost all of the pieces to win the title.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be the reason to bring her in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing, if you are saying not not any of us, but if a fan or if anybody who's watching this club says,

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[SPEAKER_02]: like the their injury luck has been so fantastic this season and that is one of like the intangibles that is usually therefore championship teams for whatever reason you don't have the injuries that other teams have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that is something that is in their favor right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not saying it's going to be like that for the rest of the year, but when you are making this decision,

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[SPEAKER_02]: by August the second on if you're going to go for it or not, that is one of the things you're looking for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can we do it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who adds to this core that allows us to really, really go deep into the playoffs?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if they believe that that is Kelsey Plum, then they should go for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like I don't think Kelsey Plum has has a bad reputation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think what the fans are looking at a lot of the fans are looking as what Brian said, which is

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[SPEAKER_02]: this like the idea of the chemistry or whatever or of the closest of the team based on what Nat was talking about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I get it like you these are these are the players that you love.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You love this team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are the team that is surprising the entire league and you have these great players who we got to see last year and so you're attached to them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But to take it to the next level, if it does mean interrupting a rotation of Veronica and Gabby a little bit to bring in somebody who could actually score 22 points a game or more if need be like, yeah, you have to look at it and you have to think about how it affects your team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So then we'll we'll answer the second question from Valkyhoops.

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[SPEAKER_02]: says what about when people say KP is not a team player and that she would kill team chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't believe that's the case.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you guys think?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she would add a level of just offensive firepower that they currently do not have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she also really, really wants to win has been a part of championship teams in the past.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Has never been the number one gun on those championship teams because you can't really be when you play with Asia Wilson and has had to share the basketball when you have a high level of talent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in her career that she has been effective in that role.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think I think what people think is because she went to LA, she wanted to be the lead dog that was like one of the reasons for going.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if she is put on a team that has great connectivity, she's just a good basketball player.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's good basketball players will fit in in that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, again, I personally think she would be a fantastic fit, but I don't really think it would be, I don't think it would really compromise the value is overall identity, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I admit, like I do, I do truly believe that this team's chemistry, their connectivity is a real thing, you know, and I really do like what each member of this team has been able to provide this season, you know, and their respective capacities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a very definitive ceiling that they're aware of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the reason why they continue to say they got to be even better and sharper on defense is because they know they don't really have, you know, um, that offensive dynamism.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can they be better?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can they be more efficient with this roster as currently constructed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but again, they're still that definitive ceiling and I, again, I think, plum would take them just another notch up, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're number one defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think last time I checked, they're like number eight offensively, I could be wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could check it right now, actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but let me see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, they're number eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What if Kelsey could take us to

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[SPEAKER_00]: four or five, you know, and we still remain number one defensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, dude, you know, like, yeah, of course, you know, that's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I know it's not like A to B B to see all the time, but I think those are the things you have to kind of factor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, like I said, I definitely understand the merits of just waiting to kind of, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: make a move like this in the off season, because again, all that would cost the team is cap space, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time as Garrett was saying, they have been blessed with good health.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I don't think they should take that for granted, you know, uh, there are a lot of teams that while still good have not been able to get back to where they were just a season before, because of a number of factors, whether that's health or players end up leaving when their contracts are over, you know, and maybe you expected them to stick around longer, you know, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, and I think there's a comment earlier, you know, someone tuned in and saying, you know, about this five year plan, I mean, like, I think the whole five year plan thing has been kind of overblown, you know, it's just something it's like Joe Lega, he talks he says stuff, you know, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you really want to take that statement literally, I said he'd like to win a championship within the first five years of the team's existence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you do it in year two, he's definitely not going to complain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I've always believed that this team's had a schedule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, we're 27 games into this and you look at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're like the team with like the least variance on a game-to-game basis, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm not saying they should, but I definitely understand if they think they really should try to make that move to take them to another level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I can respect that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think the starting line it looks like if they get her?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, it's probably six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Charles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You sit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Assuming that she's still on the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you go with double guard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gabby at the three and then kind of keep the.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gabby is not a guard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she plays guard on this team and it's a cool look, you know, definitely helps out defensively, but yeah, no, I would put it back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think her natural position really is as a wing as a three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I would do that, you know, it'd be cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: they would, they would increase their athleticism, you know, just selling plum for, for Chetchie in that starting lineup and having Gabby, allowing Gabby to do more wing things with free stuff for hers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's, it's a very interesting, like, that, that, that the probability of anything happening is always

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[SPEAKER_02]: lower than, you know, the rumors would suggest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So not that I believe anything is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when I saw that report by Annie and to give Annie a little bit of credit, I think her report wasn't there to go, hey, this is what I'm hearing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was more to say,

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[SPEAKER_02]: LA for whatever reason cannot get their S together and, you know, they just let their GM go players don't seem to be happy there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They, like you said, they didn't really restart like they should have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is yet another thing that she's hearing that Kelsey is not going to come back to this team, which is, you know, which is relevant to the story.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is why she's available.

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[SPEAKER_02]: at the end of the year, and they're going to build around her, then she's probably not in this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and again, like for the fans saying, oh, if you make a move, why not for a big, you know, other than like the actual, you know, Sally cap issues that Brian laid out, let's say the team doesn't make a move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they stand pet, which they, you know, likely they're, it's probably more likely they stand pet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They stand pet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then your backup center is still jaw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, like, I'm totally under, like, I understand if they say, hey, right, we bring in Kelsey Plum, and now we have, like, a true legitimate, like, five out wide up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think it's a, it definitely plays in to a lot of what they like to do offensively, at least for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll definitely see, but it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've kind of afforded themselves more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Flexibility just kind of given the situation they're in where they are in the standings, but again, you know, just kind of the performance of some of the players that kind of gave him probably some some more unexpected returns than they had initially envisioned, you know, and even the ones they thought they would like job, I mean, I think this was supposed to be like a little bit of like a

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt like it was more like a gimmick, you know, at first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, okay, we'll play as like a stretch five, but no, I mean, it's something that they're definitely leaning into, so yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so let's look forward to the second half here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about this last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've a pretty formidable schedule to continue playing really good basketball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've lots of games coming up against teams, including right out of the gate tomorrow, against Phoenix, who is unfortunately for Nick Euren, having a terrible season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to see them replicate the first half.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think they have the same amount of games the second half, but kind of like that same winning percentage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you sort of expect it at this point?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or do you kind of think that maybe it'll come down a little bit just because they got on that run?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's gonna be some interruptions and maybe the injury health that doesn't stay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I kind of feel like it would be surprising to me

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[SPEAKER_02]: if they take a back step.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now that doesn't mean that they have to stay with the second best record in the league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They could get super duper hot and jump them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The wings could get hot and jump them and they could still be playing really good basketball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think I'd be pretty surprised if all of a sudden they went on like a five game losing streak.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just feels like the way that they play and how prepared they are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: their their their head is on straight when it comes to most of these basketball games and you know sometimes these third quarters make it make it a little bit interesting but I think I'd be surprised to see them fall back you know to like the five or six spot at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I would go a step further and say top three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they can maintain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know the top.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the lead they have on Dallas off the top of my head, but, you know, there's no more ACEs games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to me that's like the biggest deal is that they don't have to see Las Vegas for the rest of the years so you could just take out those automatic elves unless they, you know, make a trade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, they got a couple more Minnesota games, but I think they could maintain, you know, what they've been doing and yeah, kind of, kind of with you on that, like the way they play, like I just don't see a losing streak in their future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A big one for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I always like to ask coaches like their perspective, like how they view like the values and normally I kind of try to press them on their opinions about the values offensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But even when I ask about offense, they always talk about defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think like even even even in victory, Sydney Johnson was still saying that again, like the values, it causes him in his coaching staff to have to really

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[SPEAKER_00]: Continuously reassess what they're doing out there, you know, because of the Valkyrie's defense, you know, I think, Carl Smith's go, you know, had similar sentiments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I'm saying is, again, like, I feel confident that, yeah, they'll continue to have the same, yeah, kind of level of success.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe again, as you said, maybe not the exact same

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just, there's even though they say they want to get better, they want to continue getting better defensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it is really something to see them like up close, especially when they're communicating defensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think any other team can say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can play, there are teams with great defenses, but again, just how much they are in lockstep with each other on that end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think that's why I feel like they,

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[SPEAKER_00]: they have even though like the offensive laws can be ugly, like, you know, their ability to kind of force their opponents out of their comfort zone and to always play games on golden states terms, you know, I think that's why they're going to continue to have like, you know, fairly good amount of success, you know, heading into a heading into the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess I think we're going to come back on Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if anything goes down over the weekend, I think, you know, we'll try and do something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't promise that I know, uh, Konrados pretty busy over the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it might be just me and Brian and me texting Konrados saying, what are you hearing on the on the ground floor?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's we can kind of chill on on the conversation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll come back on Thursday because I'm sure there's going to be more about, you know, what the team is going to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There will be a game tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then I'm sure reporters will talk to and ask questions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll focus on that stuff on the next show.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I wanna end this show with an opportunity to talk about a piece that can run a real part one of the state-ready crew.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you focused on two players, and I guess you're gonna focus on a couple of other players in your next part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's like the things that I got out of that is just

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[SPEAKER_02]: The WMB experience, man, like there's so few teams and you have these players and who I'm sure, they're very happy to be attached to the roster, to this team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure they would love to be out there, but at the same time, they understand the realities of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the idea of the stay ready thing, like the warriors probably have a version of this, but they also have a glee, and they also have a veteran team, so a lot of these young guys will get to play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like this is like an interesting thing to see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have a professional athlete who is maybe not on the main roster, but is still on on their roster in a two way and

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[SPEAKER_02]: then the idea of like, well, you have to play these scrimmage games, because you're not really getting enough rep time during the season and the practice has been stuff like it almost, in a sense, it kind of seems like, you know, maybe like college or something, but how do those players sort of look at those games?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, do they play them with that intensity?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do they play it like as an extension of practice?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, are they trying to just impress coaches?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what are they doing in these games?

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[SPEAKER_02]: These stay ready games?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I mean, they play a full 40 minutes, they're rough, you know, uh, and more often than not like they're against practice players who are male, you know, um, so I mean, they're going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going hard, um, I don't think she'd mind me saying, uh, you stay as pretty intense out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they all are, you know, um, but you know, they're, it's, it's,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not just impressing the coaching staff or even O'Hama sometimes O'Hama will sit in, you know, and watch like the entirety of the games or the scriptures.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, like, you know, they all know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they being, you know, Mila Soad, Ashkin Pregtell, you say O'Chita, and not anything all, they are very much aware that they are outside of the main rotation, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they have to basically kind of be aware of like all the different plays, you know, and all the different lineups that Natalie typically runs because, again, if for some reason, whether that's foul trouble or injury, they need to be someone who subs in in that specific lineup, then they need to know what the base sets are, they need to know what the counters, they also need to know, again, what type of defensive coverage is that specific lineup runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why in the article,

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[SPEAKER_00]: not in part to Nadia and you stay also.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I same thing, they give their perspective, which is really cool, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, you know, every team has their own terminology, but then there's also the different nuances.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, for Miele and Ashton, I mean, originally it was supposed to just be one big article about all four, but it got too long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, because they gave a lot of great answers, but Miele and Ashton, it's really interesting

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[SPEAKER_00]: The life of the developmental player is really, you know, it's, it's very different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously it's very unique to be given that this is the first year and that they've been introduced to the WNBA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But with Miele and Ash, actually all four of them for that matter, like yes, all four of them are WNBA rookies, but they're not really rookies, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've all played professionally for like several years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so,

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of having to find ways to kind of reset themselves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought was really fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I really appreciate Mila and Ashton's insight into how they process this, because again, their competitors, and that's why I really appreciate Ashton's, yeah, I mean, you could read it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, she just looks at it a little differently, in terms of how

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is not just beneficial for the team but truly mutually beneficial of her being as a part of the team and that capacity, but it's interesting and it's interesting and again, it's kind of nice timing that I dropped it because yesterday just a little heads up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I'm allowed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah, I can say this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, you know, again, the fever break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think of our players that will be participating in the World Cup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they will likely be leaving the team early, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So even though the fever break is, I can't remember what the specific dates are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could look that up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the third first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Until like mid-September, like Gabby, Janelle, and Chetchi, they're probably gonna leave well before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the league adjourns for the fever break.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when Natalie said yesterday like the stay ready group like they're going to be crucial in these upcoming weeks I think they really will be seeing some real playing time you know obviously you stay in Nadia will have the most direct path because they're on like the the standard 12 12 player roster but I think that's kind of why they've been a little bit conservative

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[SPEAKER_00]: there's gonna be a good like a high likelihood that they will be activated probably in the middle or the the back end of August.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And do you think that they've been saving their games for this moment specifically, just knowing that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'm gonna make sense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really smart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, given like how indefinitely went yesterday about like how much they had been planning about managing players minutes by taking into account the all-star break the feeba break and then the short turnaround between the world cup the feeba world cup and then the beginning of the playoffs like I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, part of that plan was we're going to have the quote unquote stay ready group right there on hand to step in and kind of, you know, I wouldn't say play like super heavy minutes, but like they're going to start to actually get like, you know, some spot minutes here and there maybe more, you know, so yeah, yeah, I mean, I think they'll be able to show like all the work that they've been putting in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So part one of that piece is already out there on the the podium finish we've linked it in both the YouTube video as well as the audio podcast so people can find the summary and click on that when is the second part going to be up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it was supposed to be up tomorrow, but it's probably going to be up next week, uh, just because thank you, Valkyrie's communications and PR.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were kind enough, uh, they, they saw part one, uh, I guess they, they enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they want to contribute some photos of you standing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for, uh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really hard to find a picture of just the two of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, but what did actually, one of the things I like Ash and I didn't even

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[SPEAKER_00]: is that the stay ready group, they play really well together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, they have really, really good rapport.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just the irony is that, yeah, they, they won't, they won't be able to to really play together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm sure they're ready.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're more ready for use days passes coming out of nowhere than some of the, the, the starter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so hopefully, um, yeah, hopefully next week, uh, part two will come out and thank you to everyone who's already read.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got a lot of, um, a lot of nice comments about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and yeah, you know, again, like it's just a really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just getting their perspective, you know, given that we don't see them play, you know, so, you know, just a nice opportunity for them to kind of share where they're at and everything like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, and then the next couple of days hopefully have a piece about Kia Stokes coming out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that's that's great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's had a pretty pretty good year this year, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, it's been fun watching her kind of continue to to adapt to the way that the Valkyries play and you know, I would love for her to get a little hotter from the corner too because those shots they they look they look like they look like they have a chance and they haven't been then dropping lately, but she's she got a good run earlier in the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So like I said, we're going to be back so we can we can stop this one here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wanted to talk about a couple of different things just to end kind of on on our end from from a social media aspect, we have a blue sky account for pod holla just for the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're not on blue sky right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have been told I should, um, perhaps I will.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, I don't have the full dual posting things really hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of hard to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, I totally get it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've, I've only seen a few people kind of do it well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, it's usually, people, I think because there's just so many more people on Twitter, you kind of lean towards Twitter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but I've seen some people do blue sky fairly,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, for WMBA, I think blue sky is awesome if you want to really follow some really smart and passionate WMBA folks blue sky is good spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's why I wanted to put so it's there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you are on blue sky definitely follow that feed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, just, you know, this BSPN, the YouTube channel, at least for now, we're going to keep all of our Pot Hall and Valkyrs content on the BSPN channel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's no plan to move away from that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you are listening and you're on YouTube, like definitely give us a, give us a subscribe, where we're trying to grow this space as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, so otherwise, anything you want to end this

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got another No Odyssey talk we're not we're not talking anymore Odyssey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You did we didn't get to see it in in 70 We got a spidey spidey next week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so this week when I'm talking about this weekend Spidey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So what's your first thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so pumped sounds really good Obviously, I did not go to Comic Con, but I was like, you know, following along on social media all via the live, you know, haul each updates Before we go, I'll say this

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't, they're not looking to try to use day, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that'll make anger a lot of fans because she's not playing and it's like, well, you know, she's kind of like collecting dust.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I will be share is that they're been a handful of teams that have contact the Valkyries about her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I can say, I can comfortably say one Western conference team and two Eastern conference teams have legitimately called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with like, trade ideas, you know, obviously nothing, nothing has a materialized.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm just saying like, no, like I think for a lot of people they think like, oh, if she's not playing, is that kind of tank or value, I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, it's not just what you've done or haven't done here, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, a lot of these front offices, if not all of them, they've been scouting her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: same thing since she was 13.

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[SPEAKER_00]: May they know what she's capable of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they also know that she's pretty much on a bargain of a contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, um, so yeah, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Since this is the you say podcast, we, I guess we can't end with this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you want it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you want to add one more thing,

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay, well, maybe we will for this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, one of my favorite Bay Area reporters, Tim Kowakami.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't really cover the valks, but he made a kind of an off-hand, not really an off-hand comment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like, you know, I don't know if people aggregate for Valkyries content, but he said, he said he thinks that the GM does not wanna trade her

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, wouldn't be too mad about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, forget exactly how he said it, but I think what he meant online to that was Ohema knows you stay's value, Ohema drafted you stay does not want to deal her, but he said that maybe Natalie may not necessarily be 100% in line with that or agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's the gist of what he said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What if they're not going to trade her, then it seems like maybe they're a little bit more

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Calcami is too far off, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's a fair...

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of assessment based on what he sees, you know, the thing about it is it's interesting in terms of the dynamics between the front office and the coaching staff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think for the most part they are a united front, you know, when they say that, I do believe that, but I think everyone kind of has their jobs and the way

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[SPEAKER_00]: is not necessarily like you know what each party in which each individual kind of envision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when we talk about you say you also have to talk about Vansha, you know, who's now with Portland, because by all accounts, I think she had a very big hand, you know, and or she was a very big factor and you stay being selected by go on state last season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, Natalie's job is to coach and win games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we can say she does that well, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: how Ohema and Vanya thought they would go about winning games, it's probably different than what's actually come to fruition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not necessarily a bad thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in terms of like, is you stay part of their plans?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I obviously right now, you'd have to say probably no, like right now right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I also think your Ohema, you have to look at it, it's like okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to be in the most literal sense,

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[SPEAKER_00]: at who's on the books for next season, there's a lot of players that are not signed, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Things could be a lot different, you know, next year, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Someone could have a significantly bigger role, you know, and I'm not trying to say like Caitlin Chens improvement has blocked you stay as path the minutes, but again, you definitely could, that's something unexpected right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's something that again, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, did they really think she was going to be that much of a factor, you know, and so next year,

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[SPEAKER_00]: when a bunch of other players who are not under contract, maybe they don't return, there is that same possibility then for you say to step in to a big role, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think those are a lot of the things where yes, I don't think it's like Natalie is looking to like, no, she just doesn't fit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's just right now, right now, they found something that works, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for all those people saying that let's not like shake up

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, put dent in that team chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I understand that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they seem to have found something that's working with them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The other thing I think we as fans have to consider is

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is a fan pressure for you state to be out on the court because if she's not on the court, then the question becomes, okay, what's wrong with her?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Why isn't she playing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so those questions are just out there in the ether for Natalie to kind of have to deal with at all times for the mere fact that in her consideration, you stay as not one of her best eight or whatever

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love the way this came together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we don't generally do two in a week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I kind of tried to set the rundown in a specific way, knowing that we have a game to talk about the next time we do this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, and yes, so we'll be back later this week, probably on Thursday, and we'll talk about the game against Phoenix, and then they have a home

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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of want to go to that game but my schedule has been so off when it comes to about a Valkyries home games this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't I probably cannot go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The one game I was supposed to go to, which was I think the game that they lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think it would have been the one they won.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The one they won, you know, my wife got sick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She actually came down with COVID and so we couldn't go and and so yeah, yeah, but that was going to be the one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyway, I still

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, that's where I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Throwing me off because it was a Monday night and I like to go to Valkyries weekday games because they're much cheaper and I kept refreshing the ticket prices and I was like, why is it still $100 to get into this game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can get to the lower bowl on Tuesday for like 30 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, why is it $100 to get into the game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I started watching and I was like, oh, they're showing the Hello Kitty stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's exactly why the game was so expensive to get into.

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[SPEAKER_00]: one of my media colleagues Ray Morales of the sporting tribune.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He covers the Los Angeles Farx.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is his good, his form of journalism.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did some research and apparently every team has lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every home team has lost on their respective hello kidding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, look, it occurs, but yeah, yeah, it should be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually on Toronto sounds like Kiki Rice will be playing because she's going to, she's making her come back at least that's night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that should be interesting, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I want to shout out folks who are hanging out with us in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is a hard username because the username starts with user dash.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So user dash was in here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ghost of Geralitis, Media Maverick, we mentioned Valky Hoops was hanging out as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So thanks to all of you who were hanging out with us, while we did this live, and also for all of the folks who listen on the audio feed,

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have a question, by the way, and maybe I'll preface this in another episode.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you have a question that you would like us to answer, definitely hit me up, GG at BSPNmedia.com, and we can take questions there as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So folks can get them here in the live stream if they're watching well, we're on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you cannot, just send me an email, and we'll get your question in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks to Brian.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks to Conrado.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see you when we see you peace out.