Vitello's First Day: Giants Manager Intro, Webb/Bailey Gold Gloves, Dodgers WS | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Drosion froze to Sandberg and the pitches crowded a second base Thompson hasn't throws the first it's over 27 years away and he got hooked on it and then John it's up on the pen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Thompson to Clark, Brad and I are here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to talk about that press conference that the giants had last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to introduce Tony Vatello to the fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk a little bit about the beginning of free agency.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some gold gloves given out to giant players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll also talk about maybe with a tier in our eye, the world series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did that happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even think the world series actually happened this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was the most interested I've been in in a non giants world series in forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Since I was a little kid, yeah, yeah, I'd have to say, I know everybody said, hey, you know, was I possibly the greatest world series ever, long time or

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's that's the one we always go back to so yeah I don't know I mean it was a great world series it was hey anytime you get seven games yeah out of a world series and comebacks and the amount of extra innings too was absolutely insane um and uh got a lot we got a lot of baseball wasn't that the most innings played in a world series and I don't know how many years

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got a, if you, if you like having extra baseball and October, you've got a lot of that this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to do this exercise and see how many world series matchups I could remember in the year that they happened since I started watching baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would start with 1984.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the year that I remember.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That I I used to be able to start with 82 and go all the way up, and I don't remember where I lost it now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So 84 is Tiger's Padres.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that right 84 is Tiger's Padres.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll go back a little bit 82 because from what I remember 82 was Cardinals Brewers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay 83 was Orioles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, now I'm starting to get gaps in my memory here, but 83 was Orioles and somebody else and now I can't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So 85 is Cardinals and who did the Cardinal Royals Royals?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that was the Dinkinger on-pire, blown call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 86 Red Sox and Metz.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a great one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 87 Cardinals and Did they play?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was at 87 Cardinals twins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cardinals twins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 1988 is Dodgers A's 89 age giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 90 A's reds 91

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[SPEAKER_00]: twins again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when you said twins and braves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the big one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one that was super memorable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One on a what would have been a sacrifice by the interview.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll feel was drawn way in and 10th inning, one nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jack Morris went 10 innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that was unbelievable series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our boy Harveen, who's a friend of ours from back in the days, huge braze fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That one killed him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That one killed him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that I feel like, you know, when you think of stars being created from something like that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so 1992 is, who's in 92's at the Braves again?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or no, the Braves and Braves and Jays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Braves and Blue Jays, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 93 is Blue Jays and Philly's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, that was the back-to-back Blue Jays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 94's a trick question, 94 was the expos and Indians, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What have been could have been so then 95 is since the word starts getting a little murky for me, yeah, I'll pick you up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ninety five was Indians and brave slaves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that Matt Williams in the world series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 96 Yankees That one was I think Yankees braves, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then 97 marlins and Indians

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is where it gets kind of for me, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't even remember the older stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we did a pretty good job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to the 1990s, so I'll take that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 1998 was Yankies and Padres.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was Bochi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: OK, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 99 was Yankies again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And don't remember that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 2000 was Yankies Mads, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 2001, D-Bax, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then 2002, giant angels and we can send.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a Buster only book about that, that world series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 2001 was a called the last night of the Yankees dynasty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, really, I've never heard of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good book.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really good book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoyed it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I read a long time ago, but it's a fun one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought it was going to do better with that exercise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But my point is going to be,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that I don't really remember the other than the Giants World Series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I don't remember them as clearly as I remember when I was a little kid because that was a much, it was a much bigger deal to us when we were a little kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, oh my gosh, the World Series nationally against American League, you didn't get that every, every other series, right, like you get today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It, that world series reminded me of some of the world series of my youth where it felt like baseball was the most important thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The most important sport.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like baseball dominated even though the TV ratings won't necessarily agree with everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like this postseason baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: dominated the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I've been really bored with the NFL though national, you know, not national, the national public would disagree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the NBA just started, so we'll see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like this is like, oh my gosh, this is what baseball felt like when I was a little kid where it was like way more important than it is for a day-to-day basis today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel that way with the first two rounds of the NFL playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those to me are

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[SPEAKER_01]: fun and exciting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you get to the championship games and they're usually good matchups, not always great games, then you get to the Super Bowl and it's just an event.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like 50-50 on whether or not the game is good with the Super Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let's talk about Tony Vetello here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the question for you and the reason I'm asking this is because

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[SPEAKER_00]: his introduction to the fan base did it change your opinion of what you thought about the move in any way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, no, I don't think it changed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe a tiny bit more towards, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe more towards a little bit of a, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: coaching staff, philosophies, this and that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was just more of a, you know, for the fan base and for the media to get to see the guy and talk to the guy and find out, well, he's not a psycho.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, people think he's going to be a psycho in the dugout and where a fur coat and jump into the stands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think this was just more of like, hey, here's Tony.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a regular dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, favorite thing from it was probably the part where he talked about how he would adapt, you know, he would, he would, he would talk to Bryce Eldridge one way, you know, or communicate with him one way on one level and talk to a, a Scherzner and a verlander in a different way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and, and, and I was hoping that and I kind of knew that he was going to be that type of guy because I don't think Buster is going to hire a guy that's going to be raw right in your face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-punch-

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[SPEAKER_00]: He leans on his instincts and his savviness and what he believes his players need to hear in that moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he fundamentally believes that he gets that piece of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have liked to hear less of, I'm not the smartest guy in the room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that can work in a specific market.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure that works here and not to say that everyone needs to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a super high IQ intelligent blah, blah, blah, blah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just see through stuff like that a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, it's just like, oh, you're overcompensating for something you're trying to be liked by saying that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're trying to maybe take a little bit of pressure off or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe he's just being honest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he's like, look, I'm not, you know, I'm not an ex as a nose guy necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not my strength, but to me,

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[SPEAKER_00]: what I wanted to hear was I'm just good at my job and here's why because that's the that that's what the fans were kind of wondering about which is okay college to the pros what what's what's different what is the same how is he going to adjust like where are we at should we feel like

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this is a year or two too early and he really needed some MLB experience and even Greg Johnson has said and in some interviews that, you know, he was kind of like wondering why the teller would even want to come to the bigs considering how much money he made at Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, look, he's like, I think he said that he told Buster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This guy makes as much money as major league managers, why is he going to want to leave?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to have to invest a lot of money just to get him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is this like a proven thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So all of those things are fine, but I guess I wanted to come away from that press or thinking like, oh man,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buster and Zach are right like this guy is the man like he's the perfect person to lead this team because as we know we just watched world series the giants in order to compete with the Dodgers they're going to have to Maybe outplay their roster a little bit they're going to have to overcompensate for some of the things and maybe some of that is the power of personality by Vatelo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just would have

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[SPEAKER_00]: liked to feel more like we made like the single smartest higher in the world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And less like we hired a inspirational speaker to be the coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not trying to undervalue what he brings to the table.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact of the matter is me, like I'm guessing 85%

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[SPEAKER_00]: doesn't watch college baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I have no idea of all of the things that he's done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing I know is what I've seen in Twitter clips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I go into this higher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like we were jumping up and doing, you know, high fives with each other when Bob Melvin was hired we knew what Bob Melvin was and he was kind of we knew he was kind of the stitch to whatever the next thing was going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess the last time, you know, when when they hired capital, I felt sort of similar like, okay, like, what is this guy who is this guy and I'm open minded, look, if a tele comes out here and he's just like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got whatever it takes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've called it the hit factor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got that hit factor and all of a sudden this team just loves playing for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm 100% in, but I just can't get there yet right now based off of what I've seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't think, yeah, I don't think we have to just be 100% in just because Buster said so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of where I'm at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still, I'm in the shallow end of the pool right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that all makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing that was a little off-putting was near the beginning of the press conference when you talked about, you know, he was here in the major leagues and he can see himself going back to college some day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, yeah, it's a little, let's, we're in the now right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's, we wanna guy who wants to maybe be here for like 10 years, you know, and again, in 10 years, he's not even gonna be 60.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, he's going to get burned out in the majors after 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's possible as he'll lifetime manager.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have no idea yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know much about what he is and who he's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think you hit on something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, for me, all it took to say that, yes, this is the guy, Zack, and Buster nailed it, is for Buster, and I said this last time, and maybe it's simplistic, but for Buster to put his stamp on it, for him to talk to him,

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[SPEAKER_01]: to lure him, to keep calling him and interviewing him and talking to him to the point where he wanted to hire him, Buster is not a, you know, I don't think he's a...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, snap decision type of guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we saw that with a roster moves this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have many roster moves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the far on era.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I felt like some of Farhan's moves like, you know, okay, we got ready to get capital now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to get Bob Melvin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to go the exact opposite way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right over compensating for whatever we just did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't think that's what's happening here too because I feel like again, I think Buster sees the future of baseball and he sees the future being a guy like Tony some of the college coaches and again, you know, discuss this before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are guys that are going to be coming through their ranks in 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The majority of people in major league baseball are going to be guys who played through college baseball, you know, not not counting the international guys, but guys who have played college baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's going to know what that era was like because he was there for eight years and longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, I think for me, it was just getting that, that buy-in from Buster and I was like, well, I'm in, I mean, I'm a giant fan, I love Buster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's, you know, done nothing but good for us over the years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year was a tough, but again, I always go back to the fact that Bob Melvin, he worked with Bob Melvin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bob Melvin was not his pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is his first pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now going forward, this is going to be, and maybe one more draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be the Buster Posey era.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're kind of working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is like Taylor Swift's first album, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a glimpse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then when the second album came out, you go, well, that's Taylor Swift.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, now we see who she's becoming, so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, Buster and Taylor, that's a combo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so, you know, I'm open-minded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we try to be as open-minded as we can on this show,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not against it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not against people having strong personalities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not against people making mistakes in public.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not against people experimenting with stuff and seeing how things go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I come into this with an open mind with Vatelo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just wanted to watch that presser and go like, I'm 100% in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know what I can relate it to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the warriors right before they got good they had a market jackson former new york next point garden commentator as their head coach and so they're about to make this change

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[SPEAKER_00]: What in in a funny story actually a tremendous story for me my dad and I had gone to see the Warriors color commentator at that time Jim Barnett speak I had a buddy who invited me he's like, oh, I know you know, I know your giant warriors fan won't you come and he listened him speak and so we're there and you know, I kind of tell my dad I'm like I'm going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to find, I'm going to go to Jim and I'm going to have a conversation with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how I'm not sure yet because we're at like tables and there's dinner and so I'm just kind of, you know, I got to be brave and make my way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I find that I find where he's at and I eventually sit down with him and my thing is my hook here is Jim's eating and he's at this table with a bunch of people and everyone's going to ask questions and if I can

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[SPEAKER_00]: then Jim doesn't have to answer the question he just keeps eating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just I'm ripping off answering every single question like these people are asking Jim and he's like, yep, you're right, yep, yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so eventually he kind of trusts me a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he starts telling me about what's really going down with the warriors and Mark Jackson's kicking people out of coaches meetings and and this and that and he's like, yeah, I don't think this is going to end well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so not that long after they fire Mark

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Steve Kerr's name starts to, he kind of, it's just starts being like the name, like it's either Steve Kerr, Stan Van Gundy and there may have been a couple others.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I heard Steve Kerr talk about what he wanted out of the team, he basically said, this team is already good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I just need the offense to do X and the defense to do Y and I think this team could compete for a championship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh my gosh, I'm in, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that isn't really what Vatelo did and I wonder, I mean, maybe it's hard to do that because the Dodgers are the team that has won that division so many times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe, you know, you may be doing empty promises and maybe the fans can see through that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even Greg Johnson, I saw said that in every he's like, we didn't want him to come in and say that we're just going to beat the Dodgers next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like, and I was like, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's what we want, like we want to beat the titers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get that, but there's time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it's such a long off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we're gonna hear that at some point way before spring training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But but I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like if it would have come out in the press conference, you know, I'm here to take on the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I might have been like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're a little hyper focused.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have been nice if he said, oh, yeah, you know, and I was younger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hated Tommy the sword of two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it like I would have loved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have been like, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm as a jerk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm mostly joking, but you know, that it's kind of interesting what he said versus, you know, what we want it to hear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the reason is, is because this team has essentially been the same thing since 2021.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've been a 500 baseball team, no more no less, no improvement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so now we're looking now you said something that's very interesting and that I'm kind of locked in on like this is maybe my favorite thing about him yeah is he has an ability to connect with young people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't necessarily mean that the giant's roster has built that way by the way right giant's have a lot of that's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But one thing that I saw quote owner Greg Johnson said is that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The player development piece has been a little lacking for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you have a coach or you have a manager who can connect with young people and who can help young players develop, like I think of certain guys on this roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's say we run back the same roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we know that's not going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's say this roster is going to be the exact same next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Luis Matos, Junghu Lee, those are young players who if they took a step in the right direction, this baseball team would be so much better than they were this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if that is what is, you know, we can't guess that that's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's say, you know, that is the trajectory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you're like, okay, great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you get the same performance from a Domestin Chapman and Devers, and you would hope a little bit better, like your team is improved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talk about the pitching, because he was a pitching coach back in the day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He talked about the young pitching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't burn saw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Landon Roup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Logan Webb is the ace, but it's not like he's an old dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's he is still young enough to be like fiery and pumped up and ready to go like I can see some incremental improvements from the young pieces on the roster, which could elevate this team to four or five or six or seven extra wins now it becomes busters job to elevate the team even more so by plugging in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the right pieces chasing the right trades chasing the right free agents because they're going to have to sign not just one starting pitcher they're probably going to have to sign multiple starting pitchers in this offseason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So how do you rebuild your pitching staff over an offseason?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same with you know, bullpins are a little bit easier to reconstruct, but you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We wouldn't necessarily be fired up for everybody to basically come back and then you just put Bryce Eldridge back and that you would hope for some other improvements.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if that was the case, you're like, okay, like that wasn't the piece that I'm necessarily worried about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the starting pitching and such.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I could see like that is my favorite part about this signing is or this hiring is that he does seem to have

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, an association or a relationship or a way to engage with younger players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that could be helpful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I hope that they have a really good plan about which coaches to put around him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We there was it was in the news today as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that they plan on bringing in Bruce Boachy and some sort of advisor role like they have with Dusty Baker so he will have access to both of those guys Buster will have access to both of those guys too, so I think that's a positive and yeah, so you know we're not going to answer it really any questions right now on November 4th because you know spring trainings not for another you know four to half months but it's kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you have a season where you miss the playoffs, this is the time to talk about this stuff from here on out, you know, until spring training, we're just looking at how to improve this team and how to improve this roster and whether or not we're going to be jacked about it or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I think talking about the youth movement too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think a lot of times too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just from observing, and it's a long season, 140 something games in the minors, 162 in the majors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys get drafted out of college after playing 50 to 60 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all of a sudden, they're playing this long grind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they've got to figure out, how do I maintain my love for the game at the same time writing the bus?

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[SPEAKER_01]: looking at this as a job, reading analytics, trying to figure out how to get more elevation to my swing, et cetera, blah, blah, blah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Tony's going to help a lot with keeping the love for the game part of it going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with the young guys because they're going to come up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be overwhelmed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Price elder is going to be overwhelmed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he had a little taste of the majors, but if he starts out at first base, game one of 2026, he's going to be overwhelmed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a long season, a long haul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Tony can keep those guys kind of engaged and maybe get a little bit of their love for the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, we saw Drew Gilbert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He gave it back to a lot of guys last season for a good month there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a lot of exciting baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I think that that that's going to be the biggest part that's going to help is getting that love for the game and the excitement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, kind of feeding into the crowd to because the crowd at Oracle is always really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you could feed into that, uh, you know, you definitely can carry that for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's move on here and let's talk a little bit about what is up coming this sees or this off season, which is, I guess for the agency starts on Thursday, yeah, I actually I actually went through the calendar and I added it to my personal iOS gallery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know how it goes, it's always like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, this started today, and this started in blah, blah, blah, yeah, free agency begins Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the same day they announced the silver slugger awards, both Thursday and Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So probably a all Thursday and I'll Friday or vice versa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the MLB GM meetings are in Vegas starting on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be in Vegas on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to see if I can find Buster somewhere and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Buster and Zach and ask them some questions, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I'm going to be able to find them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even if I do, I'm going to be like, get this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I didn't see what you got to do is you lead with buying the drink.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, hey, I'll tell you where I want my favorite players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we follow you and we do a podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll buy you a drink and you're like, just order, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh the the what is the what is it the Johnny Walker blue we're like uh yeah I mean like no it's a podcast it's not like you know there's not like a real radio show well don't know you can buy me that yeah because I actually have you ever had Johnny Walker blue

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[SPEAKER_01]: I never have, no, I haven't even watched any reviews of it or seen any videos of some like tastings of it or anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no, no, none whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we know why it's so expensive?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, is it, I'm not sure if it's even a blend, a blended scotch?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me, let me find out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, I mean, I've had, I've had the black and the red, but that's like not the expensive expensive stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, uh, it's, it's gonna make me, uh, it wants to know that I'm 21.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm an old man, I'm definitely 21.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Scotch whiskey from, yeah, it's a blended Scotch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even the blue label is a blended Scotch interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not even a single barrel, it's not anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it probably tastes fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't know much about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's also an 18 year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's the black label, gold label, but no, I don't think I've ever had, I don't, I, and I'll honestly, I don't know if I've ever had any Johnny Walker products before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the next time you come to town for a concert slash giants game, we will have to find a, do they still call them watering holes?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'll just love to find a watering hole and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll order some Johnny Walker blue just to try maybe maybe we'll we'll make a YouTube short about us trying our Johnny Walker blue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying whether it's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so Monday not well Monday night the first night of the GM meetings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to be at the golden nights Vegas golden nights hockey game with my wife.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I told her I said, if that's their first night in town, they probably got comps and boxes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, some of these GMs from around the country, so there's a chance there's going to be some some major league baseball action at the hockey game, but we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, that'll be really cool, hopefully.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, not just, you know, hopefully you'll just

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[SPEAKER_00]: be able to point out to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've all looked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's so and so and should be like, yeah, do you know who these old guys are?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just walking around and suits with bald spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why do you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I brought that up because the giants have three free agents.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to do a like, yes, no, maybe so kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on if you thought any of these free ages would be brought back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess we have to start with one Justin Verlander in his age 42 season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He made $15 million last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say for half of the season, he very much deserved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe the other half he didn't necessarily but it was kind of cool to have him on the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think it hurt them in any way for him to be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was fine with with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: pitching for the most part, but do you think he comes back to the team next year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think he comes back, but with the caveat that it's possible, it's him and Scherzer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We could see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were on the same team in New York with the meds at one point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's a possibility, again, they both have to, and I think Virlander is pretty much made it clear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He likes one year deals going forward with this career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't have to be locked into anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he can kind of feel it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does he want a better chance of the world series?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Could I see him probably signing with the Dodgers?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know how that goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's what has sure's are falling our lap is that they're like Dodgers like no, we don't want more than one old guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll take one old guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys can have the other old guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's a thing too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it would be detrimental to the pitching staff of the giant setchers or Anne Verlander because then you've got two guys who are very old in pitching years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're both on the same staff and you're trying to get longevity and innings out of guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think that's going to work that well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, short answer, I'd say, yeah, I could seem coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to go maybe so with JV, but I would like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think he's I think he's a valuable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably more valuable to the team with this new

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[SPEAKER_00]: then he would be with the way that the giants were doing things last year because vertellos obviously interested in like, you know, he's he's doing things differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so to have that veteran voice in, you know, in that in that clubhouse from the pitcher's perspective, I think would be valuable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sure's are the same way in plus their buddies, like he and vertellore like buddies, like

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were he was on the coaching staff and Scherzer was in college, which is kind of crazy when you think about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when I first heard that, I go, I make sense, but holy moly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How old is Scherzer?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, is he in his older 30s?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm pretty sure because Vatello's only like maybe yeah, like only like eight or nine years older than this dude Yeah, he's 50 well he's 57 not 47 he's younger than us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's 47 so he would have been in his 20s while sure It was in college which is kind of you see all right

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[SPEAKER_00]: What about Wilmer Flores, yes or no, or maybe so?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd love to see him back, but I'm going to go with no, there really isn't a role for him at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is also going to apply to another one of the three legends you're going to bring up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, first base is kind of log jam now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we have too many players who are DH type of players, Wilmer's replaceable at this point of his career

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a lot of other free agents out there who are younger, so I'm going to have to say, no, I hate to say no, but I'm going to say no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wilmore was a good giant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had him for several years now and he's been clutching in many opportunities at the plate for them, but he is aging out as far as what he does and what they need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know with you,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to differ on Dominic Smith though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a yes on Dominic, you know, I'm a no, no, maybe so kind of in that area.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the only reason I am is because again, where are you going to plan?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, I, I, I diverse is going to be your DH while Eldridge is at first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and again, Eldridge may not start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the majors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He may be in AAA at the beginning of the season, but again, Dom Smith's not going to want to sign to the giants if he knows that, well, this kid is going to come up and then what happens to me?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do I get traded?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This way, he's going to get to pick and free agency where he wants to go and he worked himself into probably a pretty nice contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's a Pittsburgh pirate type of player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get a nice deal from the pirates for like three years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe you do the reds, those types of teams, the reds who are close, but yeah, I don't see him starting with us, I don't see him signing with us only to get moved to that's the only problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I think he does for two reasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is kind of a difference between Dom and Wilmer, Dom's left handed for one, left handed back, off the bench for one, that is first and foremost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bryce is still a little bit of a question mark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I would expect him to make the team at a camp, but you never know, because he's so young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, Dom, you signed Dom with the idea that you have a choice on when to bring Bryce up or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you have Dom, you could plug him in and if it's like a month or two and then Bryce is ready, then you bring him up and Dom can also play

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[SPEAKER_00]: right field if you need it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be his best position, but there are going to be nights when Bryce is going to need a night off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be nights when Bryce gets moved to DH because Devours needs a night off and then you plug down Smith in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If Dom Smith has a possibility of starting and playing 150 games for a team, then I'm like, okay, he has that opportunity he should go after that opportunity because it'll probably mean more stability as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if the giants come back and they're like, yeah, to your deal, you know, whatever the prices, we value you as a someone in the clubhouse, you're a winning type of

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're going to get opportunities here just because everybody's going to get an opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think he would be a value.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm saying yes, but totally, if he finds an opportunity where he's an everyday player, of course, he's going to take it, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'd love to have him back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he would be relegated to a bench roll,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, lefty off the bench, late in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And anything, the giants are gonna go places and he likes the build of the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could, very well, choose us, which would be awesome if the, you know, if Buster wants to go after him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let's talk a little bit about, and we'll be talking free agency,

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[SPEAKER_00]: All the way through this, you know, through these next couple of months, it'll be interesting to see how early the giants get in on the free agency, though, because I saw some numbers today for Kyle Tucker that make me believe that they're not really, yeah, those are big numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like, well, 12 years, 400 million huh, wow, you know, you know what contract that I thought didn't look too terrible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was Cody Belinger though there's going to be a lengthy number of years on that one too, but can he play right field that would be my question or could he move some could he move Jung who I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they would have to do some shuffling defensively, but I think like I looked at his kind of like, oh, it's not as crazy as I thought, but he probably is completely fine playing with the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He probably likes it there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, we'll we'll see because I think you know, I think there I think there are a lot of pictures and I'm not talking about the top of the line guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are probably some pictures on two or three year deals that are probably more of the giant speed, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the the problem has been we just can't get the guys to take the money that and compete with the biggies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe maybe you don't do that this year because you got the guy endeavors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got the guy who you were chasing anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so maybe you fill out a little bit more of the the depth and just go smarter with your money in that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just get the get the secondary

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[SPEAKER_00]: to get the only the guys that are left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do, it'll be interesting to see what that strategy is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking forward to that about who they think will be, will be that depth and could they do need a right field or though, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't really have a right field or so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and starting pitching, I mean, if you're going to go after the starting pitching too, you kind of kind of see, you know, early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was December 7th when the giant sign

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you're going to get a starting pitcher that early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Usually starting pitching is going to kind of shop themselves around a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They go a little bit later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they also like to know where they're going to be so they can get their routine down, where they're going to be in Florida, they're going to be in Florida.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Arizona plus you got the World Baseball Classic this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So spring training I think starts just a touch earlier So that's gonna be kind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 121 days away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm gonna put a countdown on my phone But yeah, or I mean we're only wait it's show-hate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll get you for Japan again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, show-hate's pitching and yeah Yamamoto as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sir.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was arms gonna fall off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, go ahead, bitch, as much as you need to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, please.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's quickly talk about the gold gloves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was nice to see Logan Webb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: get his first gold glove and a patty bales picked up another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know when that guy's not going to win one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it would be interesting with the with the challenge system right this year, but again, with only getting two challenges because I've watching the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were a couple times I thought, wow, do you challenge here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the first inning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: base is loaded and you took a call strike three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you challenge here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you know enough that you are 100% sure that you're challenging that pitch?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to be, so it'll be interesting to kind of see how that plays out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think that's going to affect with two challenges per team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's going to affect his frame rate a ton, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... and uh... you saw the list of the sai young award uh... top three and you were pretty frustrated that little as well not on that list yeah i didn't like it and then i put that on uh... i replied to that on uh... instagram so i'm not torn me apart i was a big easy day he was like a three point two two e-r-a one point two four whip and what's like a couple of crying facie mojis on my

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dude led the league and innings pitched and strike us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you want to go with ERN whip for the sigh young, you know, you can come on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Plus, when did we start hating guys for throwing 200 innings?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, guys, he's a unicorn in that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, you should throw 300 innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember when we had that when we were kids, you get the guys get to the 300 innings mark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're like, man, it got 300 innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are the workhorse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get 200 in your.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, that's too many inines, as the RAs do I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the National League Ciong finalist or Christopher Sanchez Paul Skeens and Yamamoto,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, none of those guys even touch the Indians that web had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know what Indians pitch, doesn't, you know, the Sai Young Award.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you pitch Indians and you, and then you lead the league in that and then you lead the league in strikeouts as well, you're not leading the league in strikeouts, just because you pitch that many Indians.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many times were we seen guys throw 180 Indians and strike out only 100 batters?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it happens all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I was a little chafed by that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they'll never get it right, you know, that's the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of these awards, they rarely get it exactly 100% right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was looking at skeins because he's so dominating and he had 187 in innings pitched.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 1.97 ERA after last year, 1.96.

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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty tremendous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, he's he's deserving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I mean, I think Web should should be number three or number four at least, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I didn't really, I didn't really pay to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Yamamoto had, and we'll, let's use this as a segue to talk about the world series, Yamamoto, he wasn't quite bumgarner, right, but that dude, he really showed out for his team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost, picking up, show Hayo Tani.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, interestingly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was, so, the extra inning game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So was that game three?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, game three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Otani supposed to throw a game four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this game is going into, I don't remember what inning it was, 15 or 16.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was talking to,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was talking to Brian and his friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were like on the headsets playing NBA 2K, but also kind of watching the game at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I said, there's no way Otani warms up because they are so protective of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to throw him in this game because he needs like his rest and he needs everything to be perfect to throw game four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not gonna, he's not even gonna warm up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, but,

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[SPEAKER_00]: a bet you Yamamoto starts warming up because he's that dude and then the next inning he starts warming up now they didn't have to use him right but I was like wow this guy is this guy is nails man like he is so in tune to what it takes to win this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying Otoni isn't, but Otoni is kind of like you have to be a little bit more delicate with him because of the elbow thing, the Tommy John thing, they didn't really stretch him out that much this year, maybe he, maybe he'll stretch out a little bit more next year, but any time he pitches, you risk taking his bat out of the lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you take Otoni's bat out of the lineup, the Dodgers are

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[SPEAKER_00]: closer to the giants than anything else, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That one bat is so valuable in that lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was just so impressed with Yamamoto, just like that he pitched fantastically, but just him getting up in that game with on Wolves at two days, rest or whatever, just to like say, I can do this if we need it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was so impressed with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then for him to come in in in the last game,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... that like that was not quite bumgarner again but it's kind of the same mentality and i respected that so much because they needed it they were not even they did not even go to their actual bullpen for that game

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, and they needed every ounce of everything from everybody in that series and to get that from Yamamoto at the very end, what was really impressive, painful to say, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know what's funny is that we did a video of when Yamamoto signed with the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, a lot of our bitter giants fan videos are us,

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[SPEAKER_00]: tongue-in-cheek being super negative about stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just because of we're just we just don't like the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's really you know nothing with y'all a moto, but I think you had made the point of like it's probably a nice guy sit down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, what's getting keeps getting called out in that video.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a lot of comments on that video, by the way, was I think you said something to the effect of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if he's willing to be in Otani shadow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe he doesn't want that that that spotlight necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's lots of people going like, oh, I thought you said it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want the spotlight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to take it easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to be on the easy way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the easy way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, come on, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys don't get the joke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't get the joke.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of flow.

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[UNKNOWN]: It.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can still say though he doesn't have main character energy like like Madison Bumgard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, yes, that's that was that was main character I'm I'm coming out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm getting down from my horse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get up on the mound I'm going to shoot you guys down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to walk out of here with the with the trophy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe Now this is this is me giving advice to you have a little for next year

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh he'll take it gets on the bump game game one and he's just like I'm going nine like don't even warm any of these relievers up and he says that like in the in the press conference the beginning of the game and he just blows a snot rocket at somebody randomly like that's what it would take for him to get that main character energy like he's got the ability that yeah yeah yeah yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: It kind of almost felt, you know, hey, the Dodger fans are going to knock us, that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're here for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, it's a rivalry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This just felt like a corporate win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It felt like if the blue jays wouldn't want normal series, it would have felt more like a, you know, like an old four red socks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: winning the World Series, the 2010 Giants win in the World Series, a bunch of misfits and guys just thrown together in a room and sound ways to like each other and wrestled on the side and punched each other out just for fun and then got out there and won the World Series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That that's what I was hoping for for the blue days, just because I liked that energy a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just felt like the Dodgers energy is a little bit more corporate and it wasn't just an exciting as much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know that there is some of this to me where the blue jays put themselves in position to close at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they failed to do so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which I'm sure the decision makers are probably still thinking about like how did that happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it kind of comes down a lot to fundamental baseball, because I think if the BlueJays lacked one thing specifically, it was they made some really dumb moves on the bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then because they made some really dumb moves,

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[SPEAKER_00]: on the bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It caused them to be super conservative with a chance to win it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not sure that's when you want to be super conservative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you have a chance to win it, by hook or by Crook, you got a score.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, I'm talking about the the Dalton Varsho ground ball to Miguel Rojas where Rojas either slipped or he was caught in between hops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to throw out ifk at the play and you know at in real time i did not think about how slow it took ifk to get there because he was the pinch runner for boba shit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, but as I thought about it and as you started to see like a lot of the screenshots of how close he was to the base and then you have the blue jays team saying, yeah, you know, that was the that was what he was supposed to be close to the bag because they got doubled off to lose the previous game in the ninth and so all of those things kind of are there, which caused some of this other stuff to happen, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Still, I don't know that that was the time to be conservative on the bags.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he once he saw, you know, because it's not like that was the cleanest play, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If that's just right at Rojas boom, throw him out like easy play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, that play was hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know what, that I don't fault that play as much as what I fault in Varsho's app, though, that dude needed to hit a flyball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: gets first swing on Yamamoto was his normal swing and he hit it like he hit the ball hard it like a, you know, a ground ball foul.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, you know what, he is not trying to hit a fly ball here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he got two strikes down and then he grounded that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like a bunch of things had to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, back to fundamental baseball, I would have liked to see Varsho try and hit that ball in the air because that's what you're supposed to do in that moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and and y'all my motor was living down on the zone too because he wanted the ground ball and yeah, like you said, it just kind of didn't feel like Varsho felt that moment of look, look, I got to get bad head on ball and drive up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got a, you know, I got a lift here, even if I pop something up on the infield, at least I'm getting something in the air, because again, a clean play and a little bit of a harder ground ball to Rojas, and that's a double play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're out of the ending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think it was the very next at bat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of our favorite players, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ernie Clemente who says cheese when he smiles he put like he knew what the moment was and he put him right on that ball and I For you who left builder was, but the Dodgers made you know made a great move by putting Pahez out there in center and Pahez trot trot tramples over his own guy to make the play and I was like damn you know that just that kind of stuff They made the right place to win that game and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see, you know, as much as we hate it, you just kind of got to go, yep, that's, that's what it is right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what the giant have to, they have to be, they have to look at that as like the, the goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the North Star, which is what the Dodgers aren't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you attack those guys?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are, what are the things that the giants can do better than the Dodgers with the way that the rosters have built?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think,

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of those things that they can do better is something we've talked about all along like be more aggressive on the base paths defensively just you know be so much better defensively and

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you believe in your you're starting pitching and pitching a defense wins, that is one way to, you know, to beat that team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if you saw the way that those million dollar bats looked in in the postseason, that was the time for the Dodgers to get beat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because those bats were not there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like mooky bets, I was about to start calling him automatic out bets because this dude,

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[SPEAKER_00]: hope that everyone on the team next year gets the coronavirus, and they just all miss like a couple of teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and got out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Tony just says like a black toe for like 75% of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that, like, you know, well, that's how I see them, but at the same time, you can go, hey, they want it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Giants need to just be that much better next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, or their clubhouse guy just doesn't do a great job of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Fongus goes through the clubhouse and things happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, somebody, somebody's got to pay him to throw some Mitchen powder in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yes, all right, that was fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know, so you're out next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: about next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the what I might do instead is I might do a giant Dodgers with my buddy, Draven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's jumping at the bit to come talk of a little post-mortem his team winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He also is very interested in Vatello himself because he keeps track of the giants as a Dodgers fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He keeps track of the giants just like we keep track of the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we will probably do something with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if not later this week at at least next week so we will have some giants talk in this feed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess last thing is Niners and Rams this weekend, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm going to be in Vegas on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be 80 degrees.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our place where we're staying has one of those pulls with a bar that has a you know gigantic TV screen over it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping they got the game on out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If not, I'll be sitting by the pool with the beard is watching it on the phone and relaxing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, this is a big one, man, because everybody's got six wins except for the Cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Rams, C-Hawks, Niners all have six wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Niners got three losses, and I think C-Hawks Rams have two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So any time you get a division game like this and anytime you get a rematch like this and it's in Santa Clara, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you guys always because we went down to LA and we took one, so I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: McVay wasn't too happy about losing to Shanahan on his own turf.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, and the Rams are firing on all cylinders right now, haven't given up more than 10 points in the last three games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they're, I think McVay's probably scheming up some fun stuff and Matthew Stafford right now, drinking from the fountain of the youth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got like 18 touchdowns, two interceptions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going nuts out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's on the field he's questionable so I feel like playing no matter what he's going to play play with a broken rib and one of his legs falling off he'll be all right and then I kind of like it that Seattle's kind of getting a lot of notoriety right now to go see out of the DVUA number one and I'm like okay that's fine with me because

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's going to start throwing the football to the other team at the perfect time as a sling in Sammy Darnall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, and he's my number three quarterback and our two quarterback and it's unique that we have and I've had to use him because, uh, uh, good enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mark Jackson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and then the buys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so finally next week, I get to put him on the bench.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, but he blew, I mean, he's he's he's done everything great for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't need him the rest of the years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now he could just tank.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Rod and I will be back on Sunday, late after, actually not late because so afternoon game, but after the Niners and Rams will be probably live after that game talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think Brian and I are coming back on Thursday with Golden State hoop talking warriors and whatever's going on in the WNBA because they are in labor negotiations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alrighty, that is it from here, so for Brad, I am double G, see you when we see you peace out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.