Valkyries Ready for Playoffs? Is Steph Curry the GOAT Bay Area Athlete? | Golden State Hoop

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we are back with Golden State hoop, our Valkyries and Warriors podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm double G here with Brian who, I think he just, he just blacked out as a camera for a second, so I'm sure he will be back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what are we gonna do today?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we're gonna talk about the Valkyries who are hot, hot, hot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're on fire, y'all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: everything that has kind of built up to these last four games of the season, they have a magic number to make the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know these sparks are playing today or tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a loss will be beneficial to the falconries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we are about to kind of settle in with what could be

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think I'm over electronics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just didn't hear me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're you're Mike went out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I I tried to be proactive and I restarted my computer last night before I went to bed hoping I'd get here and it'd be fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I knew I didn't think I'd be running late, but I was running late so then I ended up working out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I turn on my computer and then it turned off pretty quickly and I was like what the heck and then so I joined the thing and literally right when you press start, it just turned off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not sure what's going on with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Apple products have been doing me dirty except for this phone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know why it's because that computer's like 20 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, the one you gave me in 25 is from 2015 that one has been toast for a while and I've been meaning to take it into the apple store.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm now I'm in both streams with my laptop and my and my computers is at a hundred percent so I'm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a Paul, but I can see you find you're just not on Mike.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get no, this is my phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, your phone's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mike, my computer just turned it back on and it shows a hundred percent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm at a loss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, but I backed out of the, I backed your computer out of the picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe you need to rejoin with your computer if you want to be there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, your phone is, your phone isn't perfect, but it is fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not breaking up or anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So much for the good mic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I love having.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let's talk about, okay, so I was kind of talking to folks about what's going to happen as we're talking about the Valkyries, four games left, we kind of set the table, I mean, unless there's like an epic collapse, they are, they look to be playoff bound, they are actually in the six slot as we speak, they beat the Liberty last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will also talk about,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the warriors and you would think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the MBA, nothing going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is actually a little bit going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll explain, because I've been interested in this Jonathan coming to qualifying author, qualifying offer discussion, and kind of what it means for the warriors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I will end the show with a discussion about Seth Kury and kind of like his Bay Area legacy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's an argument to be made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that he might be the greatest bay area athlete of all time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll have that conversation at the end here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's let's go to our Valkyries conversation with some pod hola.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you watched the game last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They took it to the New York Liberty now, will admit, no Sabrina and UNESCO, but the valkers were also also without Chetji, they were also without Tiffany Hayes, so much so that they signed somebody to a seven day contract, which we'll talk about in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because Monique Billings was back, they had to let go of, uh, Bree Hall, so Bree Hall was back again, and now she's gone, but would you think of last night's performance?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm glad they got it because that was, you know, oh, how most previous team, and they had gotten one over the ace is not of those previous teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm glad they got one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You kind of saw, this is the fourth kind of played each other in two out of those three times before last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were close games and they were games, whereas the first one is because it was like their first like a way game or something in New York, and they just kind of got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: blown out of the water, but that our memory was back to back where it was, you know, declared in New York and in two days later, they declared in New York again against against the liberty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm glad they got this one because it kind of felt like they might have had the chance to those previous meetups to get it done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also New York is just on this weird

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of downward spiral that I remember that we were talking about it and I pretty confidently said that I thought New York would retain the two seed because the links and ran away with number one, and now here they are at five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I think a lot of things were working for the balconies, the New York kind of looks lifeless a little.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of look like they've gotten punched in the face and they haven't been able to really recover.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that the balconies like were out hustling them for most of the game, which yeah, they're at ball holla, but surely a New York team that just kind of lost badly to Phoenix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard that Brianna Stewart was kind of vocal about like this can't be how we're playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they come out and do this, like other that was kind of like all signs, like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but hey, I mean, I mean, there's four quarters in basketball, but they're, it kind of felt like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was momentum for New York last third quarter, the second half of the third quarter along with the fourth quarter got another teams are really making shots, but New York kind of had some of those closers to to make some shots for as the Valkyries is obviously been something that we didn't have, especially with tip and down at the scene on the bench hurt and of course, no cable Thorin, but that's always been what they've been searching for, so I'm glad they got it done, but man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it was five minutes in the fourth until that Carla passed to tell me for the wide open layup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like a four to five minute drought of no feel goes made and it kind of was like we've seen this story before where, you know, even against the Phoenix Mercury, they kind of blew it in the fourth, not able to make shots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So very glad they got that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have thought that the liberty would have won that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not entirely shocked

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really good game to get the fourth quarter has been their kryptonite and I think we see why is when you

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[SPEAKER_00]: when you have to run something, which kind of, there's a need for a top level score, a bucket getter, a clutch score.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't really have that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you would say Janelle Salon is probably best suited for that role.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Without Zandalis Sini, who would be a nice little,

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[SPEAKER_00]: a nice player to have when the defense, you know, maybe starts over playing, which we saw at the end there, they were, they were eager to get steals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were trying to close, you know, they were trying to trap and get some turnovers and that's why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In fact, Ben lay was wide open in the middle for the layup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Without tip haze, you also lose somebody who can get to the basket and they were specifically guarding against Veronica Burton's drives and they just made it really hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now in the playoffs, I imagine we're going to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: more of that in attacking the Valkyries, but the good thing is is the Valkyries themselves, they play such high level defense that they will probably be able to keep stay in games even if the offense is struggling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think that they need Xandalucini.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've not heard much about her injury other than that it's a calf injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Salon actually I think Salon kind of came out in an interesting part of the game last night where I thought you kind of have to ride her to the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the flip side is the liberty, like they're so tall, they're so long, and they did not take advantage of that at all last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were getting out hustled for rebounds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were getting boxed out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see, little guards flying all over the place and just secure rebounds and taking them away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I thought, and it's quite possible that John Quill Jones is not really been healthy all season long, but I didn't think she looked good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Measmen is very nifty and crafty, especially in that mid range, but on the flip side is when she's got to chase those little guards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could tell she's not enjoying doing that, and then bring out Stewart had a bad game for the first half, and then kind of came alive, mid-third, and in the fourth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because they placed so darn hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I saw this when I went on Saturday, last week, the mystics, the mystics were terrible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just didn't have any energy, no fight, and the valkers just took advantage of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The valkers, they were one point away from

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[SPEAKER_00]: getting to 100, Kate was fouled on a three pointer and she only made two out of three free throws.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a 99 to 70 win or whatever it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they are kind of like Veronica Burton is getting out and running and I know throughout the season,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Valkyries have been like a really slow team, like they're very deliberate, and they don't get out and run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They shoot a lot of threes, but in I've seen of late, it seems like there is at least some intention

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[SPEAKER_00]: to get out there and run a little bit more because you see Veronica Burton get that ball and she is racing up the court.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are, you know, smaller than most of these teams, I think they're trying to use the athleticism over the height to get some easy buckets, but I'm starting to see that, which is, which is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we had the return of Monique Billings last night and she'll

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, she did everything that she's been doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see that the injury hampered her too much and really thought that she, you know, she, it was kind of one of those things where you're like, oh, yeah, remember how she plays and how she helps this team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what did you think about Billings and also the, the, the couple previous games before the New York game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of is the culture of the values given that, you know, every single player on this team is essentially the sixth best player on all the teams that's why they didn't get or seventh, that's why they didn't get protected and, you know, being a role player and being a non starter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, you kind of have to have that stay ready mentality and stay ready approach to the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I kind of felt like it was fitting that Monique came back and although, you know, it's not perfect by any means, but I thought that, you know, just being able to plug and play and it's such an important game like that is just kind of what the Valkyries culture is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the previous games, I mean, you got to go to Washington.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was just just just

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the home court, baby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's they play harder and, you know, no Caitlin, but, you know, still on paper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You talk about Kelsey Mitchell only of us and probably being the best players on the values roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You still think that there's something there, but you know, they just like kind of like you said, with having these bigs that can run, you know, I thought that that's kind of what their upper hand was against Las Vegas before they made that pretty dramatic change in the roster and they've been amazing since, but they were kind of able to just

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[SPEAKER_01]: outrun some of those bigger bigs and kiestokes in Megan dust of sin and that's I thought you can kind of see that maybe a little bit against Indiana you could see that a little bit against New York where you have these dynamic bigs that aren't really I wouldn't say they're like total post threats, but you know they're they're valuable and other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: past it to the game and mainly speed, I mean, tell me super athletic, a me here, super athletic, Monique, super athletic, repair, can shoot, so that makes up for maybe some of the speed that she lacks in comparison to the other dates on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, I mean, I don't think a me here got tick last night, did she?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't remember her playing at all actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, not to jump topics here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it doesn't matter because Elizabeth Kitley, who they just signed, is probably not going to see the floor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's just there until one of the players gets healthy, but I had it was interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have an idea why they added a center instead of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, just about to bring up, it's because, you know, you talk about Monique coming back and then I'm here not seeing the floor, why would you bring in a six, six center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the only argument is that they haven't had anything above six four on this roster, even.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if people are a member of Kira Lenskin from not too long ago, she was only six four, but she looked kind of like six five, but she was only like six four, um, Kitley's six six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess, you know, they haven't had someone that tall on the roster all season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that's just a different look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I don't think she sees the floor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was almost wondering, like, why not just be like, hey, Bri, you know, sorry, but like, if you can turn your flight around, well, if they had thought

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[SPEAKER_00]: the play then they would have just waited or they would have made it seamless that okay she's you know we're going to lose this person but we're this person's coming back so we'll just make it all happen on the same day and so that that was kind of a sign that that wasn't going to happen but yeah I mean I I was a surprise but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have a true like center center and I was thinking I'm like do the who do they play in the next four games where they may need to show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know a shop block or something and so the next four games we have Dallas and Minnesota at home and then they go on the road for Seattle and then Minnesota and the season who would they what would they what would necessitate them needing a super big in those four games

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess just Melonga, I don't know if she's a healthy, but she is the six six, but the thing is they've never had problems with Melonga.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They actually usually make Melonga look bad, but I guess Melonga has kind of turned turned it around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's played well, second, like the stock half of the, you know, maybe a little after all, so breaks you started to figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, it doesn't, you know, Minnesota kind of play Minnesota is bigger, like kind of like a New York, but both got some mobility and their bigs, you know, getting the color and a lot of Smith and Jessica Shepard, like those are all bigs that could move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I don't, I don't know, it's Kate's friend, you know, they both got drafted in the same draft in Las Vegas and a front point of something out to me that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Kitley was under Natalie and Acasse as an assistant coach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe she'll be able to kind of pick things up on the fly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just don't even see a potential fair playing in any meaningful minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't even know if you were discussing that much, just because we have four games left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only benefit, I was not the only, but one of the benefits is that, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think the Velcro is having any rest type of mentality in them or not only would just say, all right, everyone rest, we're going to trick away this game because we clinched the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think they're still going to play every game to the fullest because they're still potential between six and eight and even them missing the playoffs entirely still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, if there is blowouts or either way, that's kidney minutes, but I guess the very slight potential that they somehow are able to clinch the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they actually don't really care who their opponent is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe it's like, OK, tell me, you've played a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get some rest gear for the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just don't even see that being.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What they're.

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of mentality has been in the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I can see that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just want to shout this out to folks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have opened up the discord in a soft launch kind of way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you are interested,

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[SPEAKER_00]: in discussing some valkyries, if you're interested in discussing warriors, we will also have channels for all of the sports that we cover and all of the teams that we cover.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So 49ers, giants, there are some Bay Area, if you are a Bay Area sports fanatic like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you like the BFFC team, if you like the Oakland Roots, you'll console.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have channels there and you may be able to find some like-minded fans in the discord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, GG at BSPNmedia.com, we're going to allow folks

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[SPEAKER_00]: who listen to our shows, who watch our shows on YouTube, we're going to allow folks just to come in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a lot of stuff created and there's a lot of empty space for people to kind of figure out what they want to do and how they want to communicate with other folks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we will have some conversation around the 49ers this weekend because opening

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[SPEAKER_00]: chats around just different sports giants are hot right now, they're pretending like they're in the playoffs when they're kind of probably not, but and then of course, Valkyries and upcoming warrior stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So soft launch, the discord, we had a discord with BSPN before it was it was just kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: not happening and we decided to rebrand under the Golden State Hoops banner, especially because, I mean, the Valkyrie stuff has been tremendous on our channels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we want to support, we want to create a safe space, a fun space for people to be able to talk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Valkyrie's brinyls in there today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in there today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh we had a couple of other people join uh Valkyries fanatics uh we had uh Jonathan Gonzalez, the other Jonathan Gonzalez, not my son Jonathan Gonzalez and Chris O. joined us in the discord so shout out to all of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right so you're back and it looks like you got a mic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The out is a sound.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You sound better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope it sticks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I did realize that now that I left the broadcast with my phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's currently uploading.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you'll have two different of two different versions of me to have to edit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll see how much I want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I may just keep the stream version.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's actually try and figure out this playoff scenario here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is not counting any of the games are going on right now and I don't have any of the box scores in front of me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but this would have been at the end of last night, the Valkyrie sits sixth at 22 and 18.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they are guaranteed to have at least a 500 record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The teams ahead of them, New York Liberty, who they just

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[SPEAKER_00]: are four games above the Valkyrie is kind of out of touch there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they will be locked into one of those top five spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Atlanta dream, same thing, they have the same record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Vegas A is the same thing, same record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All three of those teams have the exact same record at 26 and 14.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fightin' for that number two spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, the link to may go through this entire season with single digit losses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Valkyries are actually going to be able to hang on to this six slot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The storm are right behind them, but they are a full game back and two games worse than the lost column.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They only have two more games left for the season while the Valkyries have four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What would you, if you were to predict where they end next Thursday when the season ends, what do you think the Valkyries sit?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm probably going seven as my, you know, as my floor seems like five is still a ceiling, but I think more, I think six, I think six is realistic, but I also think, you know, Seattle is going to be fighting like hell against the balconies, and I think they are in Seattle, so that there's a little bit of control of destiny there, whereas I think Seattle can clinch

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or actually have we be I think we've beaten them twice and they might have beaten this one so that it would be a tie and then I've kind of forget the next tie breaker there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Seattle's fighting to stay in the playoff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can imagine that's going to be like a crazy game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the Valkyries have Dallas next.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like that's, I'm not going to write in any game as a W, but at home, I just got word of no Haley Jones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I like the Valkyries chances tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Valkyries of one, both games against the storm so far, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's been three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They lost white before they all start break to the storm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're telling me that Google gems is wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't need AI, I am AI.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had the correct series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then when they listed the results, they only listed the results of the two Valkyries wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what they had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have New York.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have New York and Golden State.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Golden States.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're their season finale.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think imagine if they lose, I mean, it's probably likely, but imagine if they lose to New York.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't know what the spark schedule looks like for the rest of it, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is, that has all the, all the tannings of, of a game that Seattle is going to go like all all in for to try and fight for their chances to make the playoffs, but they have the tibrikers over Indiana and LA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to me, like seven is the lowest they can go off course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's an opportunity for them to still slide out because they haven't clinched it yet, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just feels like, you know, they've done, they've done the work ahead of time to secure those those tiebreakers against LA and Indiana, I would be surprised if that did not happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who do you want to play in the first round?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, goodness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of the WMBA playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we would be playing Atlanta right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But two through four, they're all kind of Joe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've talked about it like I don't want to see Las Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I don't want to see Las Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have course we're not going to, I really don't want to see Minnesota, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't beaten Phoenix or Atlanta still haven't beaten Phoenix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I would, I think I'd rather see Atlanta because we've beaten them and we came close, you know, one other time, what I think was close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always talk about this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that there was a few things that could have changed and they would have won that first game against Atlanta.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they won the second game against them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the green apparatus game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they Atlanta kind of took it to them at home a little bit there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Atlanta are Phoenix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know to me though when they've played Phoenix, it's they've been relatively tight games You know, barring the first one even the first one was kind of down the stretch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember it was two Steph Talbot terrible sideline out of bounds turnovers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was like a Xandela scenic game, too, where she kind of was breaking out a little and then she went to your old basket

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that second game, you know, that was the genel salon to clutch shots, free throws to end it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The third game is the one that kind of blew at the end, but, you know, you can argue, I think they were missing a decent chunk of players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, of course, on this last one, where they were in Phoenix about a week ago or two, you know, like Tiff gets hurt in the middle of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it was just like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: doesn't is not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that's the argument right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, would you rather see Phoenix or Atlanta?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if you say any of those two confidently, but to me, I don't think there's a, um, I don't think there's an obvious answer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who can you get?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who do you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because, okay, so it's going to be one one and one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, they're going to get one at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have Baja.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was rocking, by the way, on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was just so impressed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's like Saturday night, like Washington was not playing well, they're out of it, and yet still just on fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Though the Indiana game, the poor fans had to sit through all those delays because of the clock situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that wasn't great, but yeah, I was just so impressed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there is a home court advantage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: what team do you think that they would play best at at home just to steal that to to force a game three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just maybe think of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think in Thor, Ragnarok, the third movie, they come to conclusion that as guard is not a place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, how there's some ties with the Valkyries and the Norse mythology is Balhalla, is Balhalla a place or a people because they will not be in Balhalla if they play a playoff game they will be at Oracle or SAP Center.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had a note in the discord from Chris O who said that, Tammy, I haven't, I haven't verified this so we're trusting Chris here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tammy said that something about not cheering for the opposing team and she said they should come into ball hall of feeling unwelcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Temi was on a playoff team last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She knows that it's going to get, you know, no more, no more Mr. Nice ball holla or Mrs. Nice ball holla come playoff time, they're going to need to be that if there's one crowd that can kind of sway a game it might be ball holla and we'll see where they play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so last four games of the season, we will probably record next week, probably this same time if we can, which would mean right before the season ender against Minnesota.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to assume that everything will be tied up on the Valkyries end by then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will be relying on that last game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's kind of crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The schedule that you got to play the best team and elite twice in your last four games to close it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whenever they clinched one, have they clinched one yet?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, they have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have SNF's eight losses in the next the number two team has 14 losses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's a big enough number one for them to get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll see if they kind of take their foot up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the last, the last, the last, the last game of the season is at home for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So who knows if they're going to want to tank that home game away?

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[SPEAKER_01]: that's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to go into the playoffs, like a, you know, total upset, not upset, but just big loss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess we should shout out this person because when you were gone, Conrado and I had a conversation, or no, maybe no, it was the last show that you were on, we talked about Kate and how we love Kate, but as a player, because of her notoriety and her celebrity

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[SPEAKER_00]: Golden State as like a very well known player and her celebrity kind of probably exceeds her actual basketball ability, but she's been shooting the basketball man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's she's doing the stuff thing too where she's getting all these these three free throw with the getting fouled on the three pointer and I'm trying to figure out I'm like, is she like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is she figuring out this or are they just, you know, kind of sloppy on the defense?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why would you block try and block three pointers by the way, it rarely happens, but she seems to have a knack for drawing that foul in the way that she does and she's she absolutely has picked up her her game since we had that conversation and I've, you know, I felt that she hasn't been as much of I get the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to absolutely shoot it right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no other play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she's not like a, you know, a natural playmaker by any means I think she's like a limited playmaker, but there are some like she's kind of gets the ball and almost like fake passes like a like a slight like fake pass and then it's kind of like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoever I'm passing it to really on or even Veronica back boom bounce past right into the paint there's been a few of those that you know as long as just not haven't felt as much of you know that game where I was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like kind of okay with, but I think people didn't love like four for 17 or what I'm done that was like there was a lot of like just hook and chuck like, but and to her credit, like there was kind of no one available.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She kind of had to do a lot of that, but I felt like it's been a maybe a little more controlled and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I felt like with those three pointers, those n1s, I think Carlos getting a little like put the hell that's my move, so she just completely got one last night at the end of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was honestly an offensive foul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised to that, I don't know if New York had a challenge or not, or they weren't more upset about that, because I think Carlos completely kicked out of leg.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I haven't seen Kate do the kick out, but she definitely steps into her threes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So as she's up in the air and shooting them, she definitely falls forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder if she's creating or she's kind of cutting down her own airspace in a way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But hey, she has a good percentage to kind of back up like the hard contest, whereas Carlos have been more self-creation threes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Swing Swing Swing, three, it's been like stepbacks that have kind of been getting people lately, and I'm like, you know, what, some of them, but I don't have it, but yeah, she has kind of hit some tough ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that is it for pot holla here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wait, what we should say is, are we going to game two?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're the one who was saying the name was getting too expensive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I kind of feel like we have to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you, if you, I mean, we can, we'll have to figure out what day I did did we did we did we were to figure out what day it was going to be did it's, um, oh, you know what I think they're still up I think there's game two is either on Tuesday or Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, is it next?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I think it'd be the following.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's not next week has to be the following.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like the following Tuesday or Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's two game twos on Tuesday, two game twos on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we just have to wait until the seedings finalized.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those seeds are going to sell out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like always immediately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll have to strategize there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it for the ball hall of segment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back talking Valcarees next week, but let's pivot to our segment on the warriors for the death lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: John, I think you're coming a less couple of times we've been like, why we still talking about this guy, only want to say one thing, which is so I was kind of just trying to figure out the whole qualifying offer thing because that seems like it's the the bigger play for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what people think he's actually going to do is take that qualifying offer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Sam Gordon from the Chronicle had a call up and I just wanted to kind of read from his piece just so everyone is aware of how comming a plays this so for the warriors the negative thing about comming accepting the qualifying offer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is that for one, that slot is cheap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's like one year, seven million or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So from a trade aspect, the warriors would not have a high trade opportunity with his salary, with the way that MBA trades work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Sam writes, extending coming with a multi-year deal worth more than 20 million annually would give the warrior's optionality in trades of the partnership's sputters this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would preserve the salary slot and with it, the chance to aggregate his contract with other contracts in a deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is, unless he signs the qualifying offer, signing the tender would grant Kominga an implied no trade clause in 2025, 26 and veto power in a potential trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, the warriors could trade him in theory, should he part with his vetoing rights?

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[SPEAKER_00]: but the receiving team would lose his bird rights that grant the option to re-sign commingah while exceeding salary cap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, acceptance of the qualifying offer would compromise commingage trade value this season while all but guaranteeing he signs elsewhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So reading that, I much more understand the standoff because the warriors are trying to play hardball by saying, we're gonna offer you a two-year deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna make a lot more money, but we want the option on that second year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't want,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you to be able to get out of that unless we want you to get out of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that seems to be the thing that is holding him back from signing the deal with the warriors and I kind of wonder

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[SPEAKER_00]: if it's going to be a who blinks first kind of thing right up into the deadline because for the warriors, it is so much better if he signs because his trade value will be so much higher than if he signs of qualifying offer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is where it stands and I'm just assuming that we are going to see this standoff all the way until whenever that deadline is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also read that he has vetoing power over any trade if he signs the call of thing off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what that's what was in the Gordon piece was the vetoing thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So even, and then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say that he foregoes that veto, the team that trades for him automatically loses his burglrites, which it would not be great for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he would basically be seemingly untradable this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would have him for the year, then he would be a free agent and you lose him and he's gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the scenario that it seems that he is using as his leverage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for the warriors to do whatever that that they're going to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So is there any compromise because he's like, you know, I want player option, warriors say no, we're doing team option could the compromise be no option or is a no option worse than team option.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had assumed team options, the worst for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like just for my overall two year deal, two years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, and then the handshake thing of like, look dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: after either this year next year, we're going to try very hard to work with you and get you somewhere where you want to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but he's probably not like down for any type of handshake with the warriors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He probably feels like so burned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I read like he didn't want to be upon in, you know, a situation where he already feels like the scapegoat or something or something along those lines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I might get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you think about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The reason why the warriors want that trade option or that team option is because that also gives the other team who they may trade him to That team option.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they would they would own the team option.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, of course.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think every team would want you higher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every team would want team option over player option.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Players would always want player option over team option.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, because he's going to opt out no matter what.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if he gets hurt, he'd opt in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there are situations I try to read a couple of articles because I wasn't sure how in depth we were going about this, but I think there's like the obvious nerlin snow well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Example where he kind of did the bet on himself thing and turned out to be million off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So 70 million dollar offer gets her and then signs like for two of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our veteran minimum for okay see the next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's probably something he goes to bet every night thinking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The rest of his career, nerlin, nerlin, nerlin's no well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he only made only he made 25 million over the rest of his career, but yes, so that is a loss of, you know, almost 50 million 45 million.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think there's a Ben Gordon Gregman row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Flip side of the argument where they were able to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh do what coming a wants to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, make the money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So basically my opinion is this this thing's not going to, there's not going to be an answer anytime soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to the deadline people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the lawyers do a, um, is there a JK 0 LLC that the lawyers can funnel money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Steve Balmeresk kind of move here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's relevant at basketball news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why wouldn't they talk about that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't understand it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is the big thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw Steve Volmer's He was saying that it was an actual company that they invested in that went bankrupt and that and there or something like that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think it's all probably shady stuff and I mean that this is what Bill Simmons is always says It's done like he would always say like you know, Dirk in the end of Dirk's career It's like okay, yeah, he's signing for less money because you know He's gonna have a piece of the team or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was when Cuban had the team and there's always like conversation about that But yeah, I want to read like Bob I haven't heard publicatories podcast on it actually

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really hope Bill has him on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Polly Tory, second time and two months or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, he should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's definitely should.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would they completely fits with like, you know, Bill got being a season ticket holder for the Clippers if he still is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the story in who?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it would be a great conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really hope they do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, do you see Dramon training with Jimmy Butler?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw him airballing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did like open runs, pro runs with like Moses Moody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Jalen Johnson, DeAndrey Chordin, DeMarder Rosen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was a clip where he's posting up Moses and he takes some fadeaway shot and he calls foul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Moses is like, what the hell are you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Moses is like, that's not your game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's trash talking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's not your game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the foul stands because of course when you're playing pickup, like you just got to respect the call most of the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the people are egging it on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're like, back to Dramon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, back to Dramon to post up Moses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dramon does one of those terrible looking fade-aways airball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In this, I guess there's maybe he was a video or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said they're winning the championship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He called it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at the odds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're probably not looking, they're probably what top 10.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so what would you guess?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would guess seven to 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, yes, that they are in that mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is surprising to me is that the Lakers actually have better odds than the Warriors right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So number one, obviously, Oklahoma City.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number two is Cleveland in actually the next there they're around tight because you know we're just using like in a accumulation of all the different odds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it needs to be an east team, but I would almost feel better about like Denver number two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Denver's four Houston is five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lakers are six at between plus 1,500 plus 1,800.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then Minnesota, then the clippers and then the warriors after the clippers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then after the war is the Mavericks, the sixers, and then these Celtics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, lakers are two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm surprised the lakers are over the clippers, but I guess the rationality is like, oh, they could do another big trade of the lakers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have two really famous players on their team and people like to bet on famous players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The warriors are not even really in the top mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for Dramon to say that, he feels really good for one, which I think is good for him, because you know, it's a lot of wear and tear on that body.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Conrado and I talked about this last week about Al Horford, and if you do bring in Horford, then maybe it alleviates Dramon having to play so much five, which will be helpful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so maybe he's looking at it like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I feel good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're actually adding some players that I think can help us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have this like two-year window, Steph and Jimmy are still playing at a high level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I would like, I would like someone to ask him like, what are the reasons why he thinks this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, he's, this is why Dreyman is Dreyman, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got so much confidence in himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it's funny is, um, so there's a documentary, a documentary series on

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[SPEAKER_00]: the the the the the championship team the first step championship team and so I don't know when these interviews were filmed it looks like semi recent like David Lee is in there and Bob Myers is in there Joe this is there like that's usually like the interview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't seen your step yet so I don't know if Steph but Andre is in there glasses Andre is in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it has to be kind of recent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they go back to our Andre is talking about that team, the 2014-2015 team, and he basically says, you know, we kind of knew that Steph was going to have this insane season, and probably the rest of the league didn't know it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we knew Clay was ready to kind of go up that next level in the rest of the league didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he said, because remember, Dramon wasn't even a starter yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't start until David League hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, and we kind of knew Dramon was going to be a really good player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And nobody really knew yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's kind of cool to see like baby face Chubby Dramon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: after he gets drafted and kind of betting on himself explaining why he thinks that the warriors are kind of on the assent, you know, that we just got a great draft class, the Harrison Barnes is zealy and drama on draft class.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're on YouTube, just go to the Warriors page.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there are four episodes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I watch like half the first one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That team is just like what better team to think about than that team in Bay Area sports really.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, Dremon's been doing this for his entire career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So as long as he can promise me that he's not you can kick out of five games and he's gonna be there when they need him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's end this show with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I asked you to come up with,

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[SPEAKER_00]: your Mount Rushmore of Bay Area athletes who you have seen throughout your lifetime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I asked my dad and I came up with mine as well because I wanted to see how much crossover there would be on all three

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[SPEAKER_00]: All three amount rush more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for context, my dad probably starts watching sports in the early to mid 60s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're talking about, you know, gosh, how long ago is that like 60 years ago about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I would have started watching sports, at least as far as my recollection, like what I can remember around 1983, like for all three

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is 42 years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then year probably what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what time frame do you think that you remember sports and athletes and stuff?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great question because I was thinking about that as you were saying that and I like I guess my earliest memories are probably like 49ers, but even that I think we're in like 2007 or eight by now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like how old are you when you said

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would have been seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's kind of where I'm throwing myself as like eight nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so now I'll give out my dad's Mount Rushmore now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We went back and forth because he kept wanting to put on like his favorites.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, no, you're a Bay Area historian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like John Brody should not be on this team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like John Brody was great, but he's not better than Joe Montana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we were kind of going through that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he came up with his list of Willy Mays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Montana, Jerry Rice and Steph.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's got to see it all, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to see it all and you know who he wanted to put in there was Rick Berry who got the 74 75 championship because that was his favorite player growing up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, you talk about maze and Steph in the same sentence, like that is kind of crazy to think about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Willie Mays is a lot of people say this is a great space about player of all time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think people call Steph the greatest past about player of all time, but then Steph has the rings that Willie didn't have as a player, at least in San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did have one from New York.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then when I thought about it, I said, okay,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It mine is like two or three obvious ones minus Barry bonds yeah mine is also Joe Montana mine is also Jerry Rice and staff and then staff so staff crosses over both of our times and The one the the Joe Montana and Jerry Rice don't work for you because they had retired before a Jerry was still playing when you were born but

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[SPEAKER_00]: he was, you know, in playing for the Raiders and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even remember Barry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and yeah, you, you would have, you would have seen games of Barry's like, oh, five, he's in, like, last year, so seven, you would have been to pack to back then pack bell park to see Barry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he's not, he is also not of your lifetime of watching sports.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now, give me your for that you gave me earlier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think my fourth spot is still like in discussion because I, I'll all start saying it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's Steph, if I had to rank them even, I'd probably go Steph, Buster, Dramond, and KD.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that KD spot for me has has is the one that could be changed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just like, damn, he was just, you know, the first or second, most important player for two championships.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I have this ticket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the thing that there's no Niners on your list, which, I mean, I wouldn't even be sure who to put.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're, if you're, yeah, I had some names, but my rationale is, in my lifetime, I have seen three San Francisco Giants World Series, four Golden State Warriors finals wins,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Losses at the supermarket, I meant to go for a nine or so to be fair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm only picking winners, but if I had I was tossing between Frank Gore, Vernon Davis, and then I was like, I'm not picking Joe Staley, like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're going to lean on warriors in giants because those were the teams that won the titles will list and where as I was growing up, the Niners won all the titles and then the giants and the warriors weren't until now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to kind of cross-pollinate with my eras to get what I got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I knew, but I was also thinking Lenskum and bum gardener, but I think when I was kind of like have way more baseball memories, I think Lenskum was kind of not as dominant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, your brother would pick Lenskin for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he would, but that's completely bias.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that's factual.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you know, he was, he was, yeah, and he had three rings, though, you know, he was really dominant for a big one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was the biggest part of the one and then he helped out in the second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, by the third, I don't even think he was on the playoff roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, no, but it was, it was a really interesting thought process because what I was, and this is like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some you have a hypothesis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I wonder, is Steph Curry the greatest Bay Area sports athlete.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but I don't think the crossover can completely confirm that because had I've been alive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I think that what's like, if you, you know, do like the four greatest, like it's, you probably go, well, I mean, it's probably your, it's probably what your grandpa's

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's in its willy, uh, Jerry, Joe and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would that's probably overall if we were to like really do some polling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would I would imagine that areas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Barry would be on the next four for sure, but I don't think you don't think you would I don't think you would put Barry over willy necessarily because I'm I mean even over like Jerry or Joe or

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys had four Super Bowl championships, so Eric didn't have any titles, but no, it was just a fun thing because what I wanted to figure out is where to step rank and the Pantheon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's right there with the most important Bay Area athletes ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that tells you a lot about his career and what he really means and why I mean, this dude just royalty out here because because of

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot to even change it to the Warriors background.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also think it's cool that most of those guys, if not all, are home-grown and I'll really start it and Brooklyn, but you can't do anything about that when they moved to San Francisco, Steph drafted, was Jerry and Joe drafted too, or were they early?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jerry and Joe were drafted by the 49ers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like if you talk about L.A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: sports, I wonder how many of those are home-grown and not to our New York, I'm not, but I think that's cool about the pays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and, you know, on your list was also a buster and Rayman homegrown buster kind of continues to live on based off of what he's doing with the giants right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we all hope that stuff kind of take some similar path.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, stuff such a business person that I don't think you'll ever take the buster role for the warriors, but you just hope he's always like around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, totally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think we're going to try and come back middle of next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As the Valkyries wrap up their regular season and we can kind of figure out what we want to do around the playoffs because this has been a great season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been so much fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I almost feel sad a little bit that we're getting to the end of it because it I know 44 games is a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen 40.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've watched every single one of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and it just feels like it kind of went so fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you think about it, they might be playing their best basketball of the season, depending when the Euro basket was happening, they were really off some really great wins too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know, I think it's the Veronica Burton thing where she's just kind of, you could tell there's a confidence with her in running this ball

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[SPEAKER_01]: Felix is a really good shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I almost think that it's up to her right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If she wants to play an unrivaled or not, I haven't heard any reports, but at least after this season, you can still watch some balconies and unrivaled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's more accessible for the American audience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be back next week.