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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the new Golden State hoop podcast sent a little bit like Zack low welcome to the low post Um So what we're gonna do as you can see we have a little bit of a branding change here if you're watching on YouTube if you clicked on the pod on the podcast feed you'll notice a name change as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have combined

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Valkyries podcast and the Warriors podcast into one podcast for the YouTube livestream and for the audio feed on BSPN.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we're also going to split our segments, our Valkyries segments and our Warrior segments into individual videos on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you don't want to watch

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[SPEAKER_01]: Warriors content, you only want to watch the Valkyrie stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will have that in a separate video and vice versa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't want to watch Valkyrie stuff, we will, we're uploading the Warriors stuff separately on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That will be uploaded not immediately after the livestream, but it'll be uploaded sometime Friday morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as you'll also notice, this is not the Valk's Valley show any longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brian had an idea a few weeks ago to take advantage of the vigor of the Valkyrie's audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he thought POD HALA would be a good name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it is a very good name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we have changed from Balk's Valley to POD HALA with new logo, which you can see if you're watching on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we are rare and ready to go and bribe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Since we are splitting the podcast and we're having both segments on the same podcast, we'll focus first with Valkyries because they're in season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Their things are happening right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The warriors are in the off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And during the warrior season, if there's less Valkyries content, we'll probably flip that and begin the show with warrior stuff and end the show with Valkyries stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So are you ready for your very first pod hola segment?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, you've been on this one, which is if the Valkyries make the playoffs, and more than likely they will be in the bottom four seeds if they do make the playoffs, and they're looking good right now, by the way, they're looking strong and they're right, they're right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a possibility that the second game of the first round series, which is a three gamer,

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[SPEAKER_01]: will be not we'll not able to be at ball holla because of the laver tournament or whatever the tennis tournament is that chase center is is hosting sounds like it was a deal that was signed even before the valkyries were in existence

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[SPEAKER_01]: all the way back in twenty twenty three and it looks like it may be the tournament will not have started yet but they'll be putting the courts together and everything so it looks like the valkyries may be pushed out of ball holla for their one game first round series that they will host.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bummer but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, yeah, it sounds like it was, it was something that was agreed to, you know, before they even had a WMBA team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of hard to be like you should have cut a wood up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But definitely like feels like a strong point for the entire season, they keep hammering it on the broadcast is another sellout, another sellout, another sellout, just feels unfortunate that a WMBA team for their playoffs will not be able to play in their home arena.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I understand that it was probably much worse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In years past for other WNBA teams, like I think the Valkyries are very fortunate to have fallback options that are still pretty good options.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I remember a T saying that like at the Mohigan when they were practicing for the playoffs, they had to share the court with like a kids birthday party or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so just like at least the Valkyries still have like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oracle or what is it called now Oakland Arena or something and then the SAP Center to potentially fall back on so that would be pretty cool either location.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we maybe talked about this a couple months ago and it's kind of a cool idea to get back into the

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[SPEAKER_00]: the Oracle original Oracle arena.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That I think that would be electric and then also just, you know, if you do it in San Jose, like a guaranteed sell out, I think guaranteed sell out across the board.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the seating look like?

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[SPEAKER_00]: like like seeding availability in those arena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're all pretty much similar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I want to say Oakland probably holds about a thousand more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're talking like eighteen in San Jose, you're talking about nineteen in Oakland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think Chase Center is probably right in the middle of both or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think there'll be enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sellouts will happen regardless, but still a little bit of a bummer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But not do we do we know why Oakland is not just the place they have said from the beginning their home offices in Oakland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are an Oakland and San Francisco team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why wouldn't they just play in the Oakland arena unless something has happened to that venue and it's I don't know if it's not good enough anymore, but the lawyers played there until twenty nineteen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think if there was like a globe trotters thing there, like I've got to imagine it's still available, but I don't know, is the SAP Center is it better?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The SAP Center is newer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The SAP Center is easier to get around the Oakland arena, like when you're walking out in the concourse area, like it kind of gets really thin in moments, so it creates a lot of traffic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just there, I want to say two years ago,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's the same as it ever was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not a modern NBA arena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know what the reason would be to not go there, especially if you're calling yourself a San Francisco and Oakland team because of, you know, the roots like that's how they sold it to us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember when we went to that

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[SPEAKER_01]: that talk with Ohema and they were talking about the Oakland San Francisco thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They wanted roots in both areas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it doesn't make any sense to me to come to San Jose even though for me, that'd be great because, you know, I'm ten minutes away from the SAP Center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it just seems like Oakland is the easy win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure why they just don't say that it's going to be an Oakland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wonder if, you know, TK in his little article made it sound like it's more than likely going to be SAP.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder if there's conflicting events at Oakland or

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[SPEAKER_00]: if there's me not like that place is open not a lot of the only I don't know, maybe there's beef with the owners of the arena and Joe doing his own thing, maybe there's a lot that excre you man, we're going to charge an arm in a leg.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have no clue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know what the reason is, but the ghost of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: I always forget how to pronounce that last name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The leavey center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what the leavey center is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me look up the leavey center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the leavey center is in, I guess, what is it in Santa Clara?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a Santa Clara indoor basketball arena, but the capacity is so much smaller than

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then so you're talking like five thousand, uh, at least as far as the numbers that I'm seeing compared to the eighteen thousand or whatever that you'd want to pack the, uh, ball holla or, um, you know, Oakland or, uh, the sap center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just think it's a little bit too small.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, the other option that I heard,

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[SPEAKER_01]: was Sacramento, but who wants to go to Sacramento to watch a Valkyries game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're completely different areas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not a very easy drive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're thinking about, like, let's say, I don't know what day that game would be, but if it's a Tuesday night, and let's say that it's a seven o'clock start, how early would people living in the Bay Area?

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[SPEAKER_01]: have to leave to drive out the Sacramento and not hit traffic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that sounds like a terrible idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope Sacramento is like the worst case scenario here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, it is literally either Oakland or or San Jose and preferably Oakland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's just has to be Oakland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't I don't see why they wouldn't be able to, you know, make some moves to make sure that it is one hundred percent Oakland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... all right looks like uh... bright is back and we'll see how his audio in his video is that audio lagging or both both it is both uh... the what i was basically saying while you were out was uh...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sacramento seems like the third option.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that would be a disaster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who wants to drive out to Sacramento on a week night, leaving, you know, what do you have to leave three o'clock in the afternoon and you'll still get hit crazy traffic?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that just sounds like an awful idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, not nothing against Sacken and their WMBA fan base, you know, formerly the monarchs over there, but I think the majority of your fan bases in the Bay Area.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, yeah, a hundred percent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the other, the other kind of story going on in Valkyries land, of course, the very important playoff positioning here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, last time we recorded

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, they need to split these Phoenix games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you were like, no, they need to win both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, realistically, you would love to win both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They lost the first game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they played really well, considering they were not hitting their three pointers, which had been really the thing that has been carrying them of late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they went from a twenty nine percent three point shooting team to a thirty five percent three point shooting team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: take, you know, they're making a handful more a game, and then they went backwards in the recent Phoenix game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They only lost by a few or seven points or whatever, but that game, it just kind of re-centered me as far as my expectations because

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[SPEAKER_01]: they were missing some key pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't, it doesn't surprise anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that when Chetji's Andalisini is missing, like, okay, yeah, she's your best three-point shooter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's been cooking and her loss was really, really felt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think about these last couple of games, the Atlantic game and the Phoenix game?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Atlantic one is tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we were to revisit your conversation about

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who do you want to see in the playoffs?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It not being Minnesota, New York and Las Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a rough Atlantic game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of felt like they were just better than us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of, you know, I know Iliana Repair goes down and that's where the swing in my opinion happens because you try to punish Griner and Brejones for playing drop coverage and having Repair out there kind of punishes that because she can stretch the floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, not not didn't love that, especially it being at home for the Phoenix game though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of feel like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So did they say left calf strain for Xannelisine or a bruise of some sort and then tip was just, I didn't see a reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tip was just wrecked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw two things for tip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The first thing that I saw was illness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the second thing I saw was rest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought unless she is fatigued or unless

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, maybe she wasn't feeling well, but maybe not well enough to be illness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I can't see why she wouldn't play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everyone's going to be tired, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I lean towards the illness thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That sounds a little bit more reasonable than just rest, especially in this stretch of games where they are playing these games like playoff games, shortening the bench, playing their top players heavier minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it didn't make sense to me that she would have just been resting for that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't think the values are playing this in their minds of, oh, let's try to split this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they're playing, like, they're trying to win both of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're trying to split this, I will say Tuesday was probably the best chance to split.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's the classic Valqueries where it's like, it doesn't matter who's available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're still gonna be like, kind of in the game if it's at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Kate Martin kind of just stepped up and hit a ton of threes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's gonna be, I gotta imagine Phoenix is favored on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Valkyries, we don't know who's going to be available and who's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, we were, maybe I threw a bold prediction out there that they need to take both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You said split, they lost one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is very high possibility they lose both of these.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what do you think about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it was kind of a, my fear, but I, you know, I always look at these things sort of in the worst case scenario vein.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had played so, who did they play before Atlanta?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it warped up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whoops, Cago, was it Washington before that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were hot, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were they shot well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They ran away and they looked great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, lower competition, you know, we talked about Atlanta and just the length and the size and when a root pair gets elbowed in the side of the head, that makes

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if you're playing her as a stretch to kind of bring out the bigs, then yeah, that's the probably the worst person to go down in those moments, even though she herself wasn't really, they weren't really shoot all that well either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But still, just the idea of the flow of the offense, like that whole thing that they were doing made a whole lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Burton went down as well, though she came back and that seemed to kind of kill their rhythm there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Phoenix, the Phoenix matchup to me is better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just feel like they play more of that style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can play their style fits better against Phoenix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Atlanta game, they kind of got beat

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[SPEAKER_01]: at at their own game with the three-point shooting where Atlanta was just taking advantage and hitting clutch threes and you're like, okay, if we're not making threes, we're not gonna, this this outcome is is endowed or this outcome is unsurmountable, the the lead is unsurmountable, but the Phoenix game I always kind of felt like, okay, if they could just make a run

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, we can do it because the Valkyries play a very specific game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They slow it down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they can rebound, then they control the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Phoenix is kind of up and down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they kind of stunt Phoenix a little bit, but again, if you're if you're missing so many players, then makes it a little bit harder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: there's a there's like a difference in opinion on how well Kate Martin actually played the other night because she had she had really heavy minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a lot of people were like, you know, she's she shootin, you know, she's she's killing it from the outside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like four of eleven or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on the flip side is like, oh, she's the reason we lost like she couldn't, she couldn't pick up the slack right over it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's so interesting when it comes to the kind of the local

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[SPEAKER_01]: um analysis versus the national analysis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think some of it is because she's so famous in the WNBA that the outside world just thinks of her as like, oh, she's Caitlin's buddy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, she's she's cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like I'm starting to see a lot of criticism from Valkyrie's fans about how she plays when she does have to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I think I think she's

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like social media, why she's great, she seems like she's doing a really good job and is very comfortable in the community.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was in us weekly on their website the other day about fashion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she's adapting well, but then when you when you have to play like the play has to match up a little bit and she's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know she makes some shots, but I don't sense that she's a focal part of this offense when she's in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, and I think we've stated multiple times like, I feel like every week we've actually kind of talked about her now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we like her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're we're we're fans of her on this show, but I think she needs to perfect that role of coming in hitting a couple of threes and going out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of felt like

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[SPEAKER_00]: She, it feels like as of now, she needs a, like longer leash.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She needs more minutes to be able to produce like in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought you would, you know, she's, I'm not expecting her to be the best player at any point in the game, but I even though maybe the, you know, four for eleven, you said like that's not great from the three point percentage, but, you know, I think that's over thirty three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but, um, barely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: barely, but I think she's not like this super talented offensive score, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really just the three point shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no like middies, you know, the driving stuff is kind of hit or miss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's really just the three pointers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if she can just come in for spot minutes and just be able to hit a couple of threes like that's

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not to put a ceiling on on a second year player, but I feel like, you know, she's a what, twenty five or twenty six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that's probably going to be her her game in in order to to stick in rotations, like I think she could be in playoff rotations if she could just come in and hit a couple of those of those threes and go out, but when you expect more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure like any other role player, the flaws start to like appear a little more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about Phoenix though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because like you said, it seems like we kind of match up better against them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whereas I'd argue maybe they're more talented on paper than Atlanta, but you know, because they have Sato, Kha, and of course AT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that was the first time we saw the Valkyries played against Kha last night or two nights ago, if unless I'm mistaken, I thought she was, you know, I think she finished maybe like nine and nineteen, but I thought that

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[SPEAKER_00]: she was cooking, but you know, I just checked right now because I was going to make a statement, but I wanted to have the facts and and I actually turns out I'm wrong, so they're third in defensive rating, but I kind of thought I wasn't that impressed with them defensively and maybe that's a, you know, Valkyries being at home, so they just always feed off the crowd and they're able to hit shots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought some of them were just their place too, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because they slow the game down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, they offensively, they slow the game down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the, so the other team, you know, they, they can't just get out and run constantly for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have one team slowing it down a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, the other things, they play such great team defense and Veronica Burton has been fantastic at

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, just stopping the ball as much as she can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the thing about going back to the Kate thing for a second, the one thing that I liked about Kate earlier in the season is that she was

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[SPEAKER_01]: trying to do some things that were a little bit of like a slick basketball player who maybe is a little less athletic would do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he saw a lot of pump fakes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He saw a lot of like, you know, fakes here and there with the basketball where she would actually get a little bit of space.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And sometimes she would finish and sometimes she would not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it feels like she is she sees herself clearly

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[SPEAKER_01]: as a corner three point shooter and if she doesn't get those shots up she's not doing her job and so sometimes it feels like she's forcing those shots because she knows that that's why she's in the game and some of them she's not open but she can still get the shot off and others I think they actually are good shots a lot of the time where she seems to feel most comfortable is when she's shooting them off of

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[SPEAKER_01]: a fast break in a sense where she can go to her spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they can find her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She seems really comfortable there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the flow of the offense, she does not seem very comfortable letting the ball go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it does seem a little bit of a little bit forced.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's able to hit the ones that's like not expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like you said, fast break or just kind of a quick one versus like an actual like set up in the offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: shoot it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I definitely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rob was talking about Kayla Charles in in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If she could shoot from the outside, I think she'd be in the game now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you see the flaw in her game is comfortability with pulling up from the outside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she had some opportunities in the last game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a compliment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think barely nicked at the rim in later in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think she tried to do a Kate where shooting it unexpectedly, shooting it maybe you're not proposed to worse everyone this season probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like offer them or whatever to take advantage of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think Charles would get more run if she could hit the three or hit the outside shot a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she was a little impressive in that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I really do wonder if there's a serious conversation of when everyone's back that I'm here is the one just because of positional depth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that and we saw them goes go small with the me here a few times we'd been talking about it and they have been doing that a little bit more because Temi keeps getting in philtrum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they said they've had to go and I actually like the look because she's so athletic and she just gets down the court so quickly, but they struggle with rebounding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the, that's the things when you go small.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Of course, you're not going to get the rebounds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they don't rebound, they cannot get into their, their stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it kind of seems like where the game's wrong is like a combination of looks aren't falling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then when Phoenix would miss, they just get the offensive board and it's like so deflating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so then the someone who we are very much fans, I even know she hasn't stepped on the court and did a BME yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You stay your seat day was at the the game recently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They showed her in the crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She hit the she hit the drum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've seen some quotes from her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like I'm listening to her and I sort of listen to her in the voice when she did the interview with her like that same that same polished like nineteen year old voice man, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was, she was with Thornton, they were in one of the boxes and I was just like, man, I wish she could just go put on a uniform right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, we could use her right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just have her line up, you know, hit some middies, stretch the floor a little bit, handle the rock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was like, we could just use her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She would be so good with the team right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, it was felt, and she even said on the interview that

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[SPEAKER_00]: at some time in August is when she would come over and then I don't know, get introduced to the team and watch a game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's cool and retrospect that you see all these quotes about her coming out and some of it's just stuff from that we already asked her about from our interview of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: is like, I already knew that because we already talked to her about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But some of the stuff where she's saying she's been watching the Valkyries, um, I think that's pretty cool considering how busy it seems like her schedule's been after, you know, training for your old basket and then you're a basket and then maybe taking a week or two off after your old basket and now she's here, like she's been keeping up with the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, she actually also posted like a video today, like one of those offseason workout videos and I think there's a clear emphasis on strength and lifting weights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how she's doing her interview.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so super excited because I think you can she looks a little like, you know, slimmer and then you see like the women in the WMBA and they seem like more built.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that's a good thing to be focusing on, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's still so young too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nineteen years old and my nineteen physique versus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: or what my physique is now is probably completely different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it's good or bad, but it's going to be so fun and that's what's so great about this team is being so early and being there at the beginning, I imagine and we've talked about this before and we'll talk about this more during the off season, but the roster, what the roster looks like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next year versus what it looked like this year, and with the free agency in the WNBA and with the collective bargaining and with all that influx, just knowing that she is going to be on the roster next year, that is something that you can look forward to and go, okay, we can look forward to that, she's going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One more thing for we get to the playoff position in here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think of?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Carla Lates aggressiveness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I'm starting to see, she's always aggressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe confidence is the better thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Her early in the season, her outside shot was just she couldn't find it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now she's finding it more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She seems to be a little bit more comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's even getting the minutes alongside Burton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing the two-point guard look a lot lately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She still has the same issues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's also very young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's also getting, she gets pumped all over the court.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But having two ball handlers seems to work well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if she can actually shoot it, I think it's, I think it's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do like seeing her play with with so much more confidence and seeing the results of that ball going in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think her getting to play alongside Veronica allows her to be more aggressive in the scoring side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of what we saw earlier in the season, whereas when they match her up with tip, it's she kind of has to be the point guard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So since tip was not available against Phoenix, I think we got to see a little bit more of her confidence in the outside shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like you stay, Carlos,

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[SPEAKER_00]: think she's twenty one now or she's still twenty but you know first year in the w did the use day thing where she took a she didn't go her first year um and so this is her first year and and i think like any other rookie you just need to see more time to to get more comfortable and more confident and i think she's kind of following that progression which is very nice to see because i i think she's going to be on the roster next year without a doubt um i think she's one of the protected players in the expansion expansion draft so

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[SPEAKER_00]: you'd like to see that, you know, start of the season, you'd like to see a different result and a better result as the season progresses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think we've even, I know I always do this thing in the podcast room.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think we've talked about this before, but in the last part or two, like I think I even said, if you just grab or three point percentage post all star break and I should have just done the number to check now, maybe I'll do it while you're talking and see if that's even available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you do post all star break or three point percentage, I gotta imagine it's above whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cruddy percentage the season is I wouldn't be surprised if it's in the thirties.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Rob was asking in the chat if the WMBA sticking to the six players protected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we didn't know last year, like when the expansion draft was like the rules were not laid out very early on, like I remember listening to what is now no off season with Sabrina and Ben and Azena.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were just like, yeah, we just don't know the rules yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The WMBA hasn't come out with these rules.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully this year,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully, because we just had the Valkyries experience and we know they're going to have to do it again, the rules will be out there a little bit earlier than they were because I think people are going to be interested, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they didn't even televised the expansion draft last year, not that I don't know if they will this year or not, but you could at least

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[SPEAKER_01]: run it on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't have a spot for it on one of the main channels, you could at least run it on your own league pass where a large majority of your hardcore fans are there already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's stuff like that where the W I will

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[SPEAKER_01]: say this until I'm I'm red in the face.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did not see the Caitlin Clark thing coming last year and they were not prepared for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this influx of viewership and fandom add to that the Valkyries and the Valkyries selling out every game and helping raise the average attendance for all of the WNBA, which I think they just said a record for the most attendance in the history of the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like all of those things coming in these last two years, I still don't feel like the WMB is necessarily ready for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So next year, the new media rights deal kicks in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They get the extra money from the TV rights.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully they can continue to build the infrastructure with the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we can really see some, so how you would expect a pro sports league to be run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is my hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know it's growing pains.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody goes through them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's been such little support, I would say, for the WNBA previously, but now people see the possibility of their investment coming to fruition.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now they're all interested, but it's like, man, you know, it could have been building this infrastructure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could have seen like college basketball and page, like we knew page was coming like five years ago, like if you were watching women's college basketball,

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[SPEAKER_01]: but just the fact that they weren't ready for Caitlyn is kind of mind boggling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk a little bit about the playoff situation here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I have the most updated by I think the Valkyrie sit seventh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One, a half a game above Seattle who's kind of fallen a little bit and they are a full game behind Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the ases have kind of distance themselves and you kind of wonder if the ases are going to get into the top two uh... you know the top three top two there there they've been so hot of late uh... what do you think i do you think we still have to worry about the sparks in the mystics it would have been nice if uh... pages forty four points could close out the sparks the other right but it did not calcepalum uh... no thank you calcepalum but um...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where do you see them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They got the game with Phoenix coming up again that is going to be a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, seven eight seems doable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just completely, because of various sports right now and how the giants just fell off the face of the earth, I'm kind of waiting for the possibility of that happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be surprised, but at the same time, I'm kind of confident in the way that this team is playing if they could just stay healthy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you have to worry about Washington.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it where the games back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Six to ninety are full two games back from the Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Valkyries also hold the tiebreaker for Washington because I think we've beaten them all three times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if they play again or not, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just looking at it, I don't think if the word about Washington, they're also down, eleven going into the fourth quarter against Connecticut right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think L.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is done with yet, although, like, say the Valkyries lose against Phoenix and L.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: wins their game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Valkyries hold the tiebreaker, so they'd still be ahead of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I still think that that tiebreaker, having that tiebreaker is going to be very nice to have down the line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um Seattle of course is for sure still a threat only being half a game above Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it kind of looks like you're you're sealing is six against Indiana and of course they have a game against Indiana where they could also, you know what I want to say they already have the tiebreaker because I think they'll only play Indiana three times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What your games are ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think you will you are just looking at six to eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that, you know, of course, like you mentioned, it seems like two through five is still like can be anyone's can be like, you could take this as five right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could end up in two by like tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I think, I think the Valkyries have after Phoenix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they have Dallas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that I want to say they have a little bit of an easier schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know next weekend, they play at home back to back games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So not this weekend, but next weekend, because I think we're going to go Saturday to see Washington Sunday, they play back to back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sunday is Caitlin if she's back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would love to go to that game, but Sunday nights a little bit harder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think we're going to go Saturday night, which is against Washington.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's only, you know, thirteen teams or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're gonna either play one of the top six teams or one of the bottom six teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's just how the exact time it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there is starting to be a little bit of distance though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you look at, you know, about the top five, the top five are really kind of creating some distance between the bottom three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Indiana Golden State Seattle and the sparks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's a,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a good top half and much better than the bottom half in the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you got at Phoenix at Dallas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll just do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not many left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll just do the whole thing at Phoenix at Dallas versus Washington at home in the end at home New York at home Dallas at home Minnesota at home at Seattle at Minnesota to close it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to be able to have

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dallas Washington at home and then you said there's a back-to-back for Washington to Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doesn't it wouldn't surprise me if if they won out all those games if it's depending on you know the results against Phoenix if they win our loose Phoenix then you have Dallas Washington in Indiana but then you do New York and that New York's gonna be you know playing their butt off because of you look at that two through five right now it being anyone's game and then you get Dallas at home

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think you might have mentioned this not that that long ago, but you wonder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Considering Minnesota's completely dense distance themselves if any of those two Minnesota games at the end of the regular season if they just like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: damn your forfeit and just put out some of their reserves because they want to give the starters rest heading into the long postseason or just the postseason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I wonder if any of that, you know, you can, I don't think they've beaten them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't beaten Minnesota yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder if any of those might change just depending on the the product Minnesota decides to put out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They want to give their their team some rest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I think that sixth rate is just probably what is looking like and you hope for six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that will wrap up the first ever segment of pod holla.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk warriors here in a second now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's not as much talk with the warriors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the offseason and the warriors are sort of hamstrung by this Jonathan Kominga scenario.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But let's talk about the warriors and in the death line up segment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so folks, if you, if you were hanging out for the Valks chat, I appreciate you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will spend a few minutes talking warriors, which we haven't done so in several weeks because there's just been not a lot to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is the latest, what is your late, do you think this Jonathan Kominga hold out or not hold out, but just him holding his contract situation holding the team hostage in a sense of being unable to make any sort of moves whatsoever because they have to kind of wait until this thing is done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he comes back to the team, do you think the fan base is gonna welcome him or is he gonna kind of get a little bit of heat from the fan base?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the Twitter fan base is completely different than the ones that show up to the games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, of course, there's some overlap, but I don't know how many people actually go into the games are like, yeah, I think he'll be welcomed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, if anything, winning solves all so they start to go on a run and then it is a matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think you like you said we haven't done much warrior stuff because there hasn't been much news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would argue that there are still not much news and there's probably no reason to do this to do this segment because there's not much news other than the fact that maybe some promises to sign with the warriors have surfaced from some players we expected and then maybe one player we didn't expect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was that one player that you didn't expect?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Braggon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we're on the same page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Alhorford is the player who the warriors are rumored to be bringing in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Once this coming thing has settled,

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[SPEAKER_01]: he he fits perfect for what they want to do though it you know the the five years ago or for it would be like a tremendous player for for the warriors he's kind of like the dream player for the warriors the other players are their own players somebody like Gary Peyton like I think his his situation is holding out because of the coming a thing too and then you mentioned Malcolm Braggden now the warriors

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[SPEAKER_01]: De Anthony Melton is still rumored to kind of be in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, with, with, with, brought in that is kind of a more of a true point guard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe we don't get so many spastic, uh, pyjomsky, uh, scenarios there, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, it's an interesting one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't have thought brought in just the style that they play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he's always he's often hurt as well and he's older which I guess fits the roster because they're all older but at the same time when when you have a Butler and Steph's contract you don't really have a lot of opportunity to pick up some of the mid tier guides you kind of have to lean towards these lower you know riskier vets

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[SPEAKER_01]: who, um, just, you don't know what you're going to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, actually, I would say you know what you're going to get if they can stay healthy, but you also know what they don't do well because they are older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe they're a little predictable, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brockton wasn't one that I would have thought that would have initially fit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I guess it's CP three-ish a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are your thoughts on Brockton?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't know what bragged in you're getting, but I think when the Celtics traded him to Portland for Drew, I think it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got to kind of do the thing where it's like, hey man, you're on a bad team that's rebuilding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can like take it easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think he got traded to Washington at the deadline last year or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you hope that you get like a bragged in that's gotten to rest and this healthy and is like finally, I'm on a good team that wants to win again, like here we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think fit wise, I'm actually pretty excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think him and the Pagenski minutes would do really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could see him starting some games with stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could play defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you want to put that type of player with stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, of course, a vet now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you know Steve Kurt does well with vets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So not much on the number digging side, just because

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just feels like I don't know what kind of bragging we're getting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been some weird years for him, but I think, you know, when we talk about the my only worry about this off season is that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the warriors and their light years thing, like these feel like the obvious selections to be on the team to me, like, ho referred, bragged in the Anthony where we talk about that championship season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I always remember that off season because they were rumored to get, but tomb and mills and patty mills.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the obvious perfect fits that I think the entire fan base was like, I hope I really hope this happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it didn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And instead, they get GP-II and auto-ported junior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You mean this guy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It ends up being, oh my god, he still have that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what the better ends up being the, they want a championship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The auto-porter had very big games, very big moments in the regular season in the championship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that was the better option.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just wonder, like, I didn't like, was there any, was there another one of those, like, you know, kind of unexpected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: warrior signings, just because, you know, this is the patty mills in Batu and my opinion, getting out of Horford and Melton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think to me like, yeah, you put a five that can shoot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is defensive mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's sure very old and now Horford, but you know, we were hoping for Vusavitch, but that guy can't defend at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Horford, you know, it just seems like a fit, like a glove.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, like, you know, you want a Horford.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a young Vusavitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His name is Quentin Post.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That guy can't help Violet make a layup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you can't even help himself make a layup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, I think on paper and I think just when I think about who Steve Curry is as a coach, like I think these are great options.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, and I know it's not as sexy as like coming before Kobe White or coming before, you know, you name it kind of nearing all star caliber player, but you think about how this team ended the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hell of a run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, they beat the two seed like they did a couple years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you do have a what if moment that if Steph doesn't go down, are they playing okay see in the Western Conference finals?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we also liked okay see in the years past, even as good as they've been, the warriors have been able to just like kind of not let them do what they want to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, I just think about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They played so well to end the season and they did it all without Jonathan Kominga.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, just adding some pieces here and there, they didn't lose anyone in two important that I can think of, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think their entire rotation is, who would they lose?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they've lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, the one that they were going to lose was GP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the rumor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Kovon Looney.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They lost Kovon Looney.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Loone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess Loone kind of wasn't, you know, like he said in the podcast with plus minus that he wasn't even really in the playoff rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he said like, Stephen Adams, like this is where I shine and they still wouldn't like go to him as like a permanent option in the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: so like they didn't really lose anyone from their permanent playoff rotation and all they did is add so although it might not be you know the the all-star player like I still like the additions and I wasn't expecting anything too crazy and maybe done leavey has another good swing in the trade deadline but I think you've got to be kind of excited as a warriors fan I think the only thing that you're kind of worried about is like yeah like you know they were good last year but last year's teams aren't this year's teams you know you look at Houston and

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[SPEAKER_00]: literally like what like if they had one thing what that you know if they had one thing to beat the warriors like who's your dream player to add and like Katie's probably like top three there if they have Katie I don't think we beat them they needed half of his court scoring you take out jailing green and put in Katie I don't think we beat them but other than that like I don't know just another year of okay see being okay see he's gonna gonna get better okay see he's gonna have to make some decisions down the line to the with their roster yeah I say

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, they never leveled up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, in OKC is drafted well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you would think that they could slide in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys, it doesn't always work like that, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you, are you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you hope that the Lebron stuff goes away?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or do you like that whenever the Lebron stuff is discussed, the warriors are always at the top of the list of possibilities for Lebron to come on the team?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do, what Lebron noise have you heard?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't heard anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it hasn't been of late, but it's just like the

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[SPEAKER_01]: The way that you could trade for LeBron is if you have a contract that matches his contract, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's how the NBA trades work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because the lawyers have this Jimmy contract, like they're always going to be rumored as one of the few teams who could actually make a deal for LeBron.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the only reason I say this is because

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dream on and stuff seem to always be Hang it out with this dude or talking about this dude or big enough this dude and I don't know I think I mean at this point I think I'd rather have this version of Jimmy but when you watch LeBron on his good days Yeah, I call man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still really good and he could he could really fit the part you know the problem with the LeBron stuff is though

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[SPEAKER_01]: he and Dremon probably can't play together at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That well, unless Dremon just has to play five and so maybe that is it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I just find it interesting that every time the LeBron stuff happens, the warriors are like right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, oh, you'll also hear Miami and Cleveland just because of his past, but it's like, I wonder if the warriors like being in there, like I wonder if Steph and Dremon like those rumors,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or if they're just like, okay, like enough, like this, this let this guy play one more year in LA and be done with it because it's LA is clearly moving on from him with the Lucas stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, I just find it entertaining and it's probably the reason it's probably because like you said, there's no talk going on right now because it's the off season on the Warriors get David Aldridge gave them a incomplete on their off season because they haven't done anything yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, last thing I did rather be, I mean, I think you'd rather be in the conversations than not, like even like, you know, it's like what if you're in a bidding war and

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's against like a team in the West.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what if Dallas gets him, then they jump you, you know, Kyrie comes back, Kyrie, Braun AD, Cooper Flag, Clay Thompson, like if that's the bidding war, then I think you would rather be it want to be in that than not, like if you're like Charlotte and you never hear your name in those conversations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think in order to get LeBron, though, Dallas would have to trade away one of those heavy contracts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they probably, I don't know the numbers for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be crazy though if they were able to make it work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so last thing, and we'll get out of here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know because you finally followed me on letterbox the other day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that you've watched freaky tales.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... freaky tales is a movie that had come out like cash probably in the spring or something and i don't exactly remember maybe early summer and it was a small release it wasn't out for very long but the thing about freaky tales it was it's set in nineteen eighty seven

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[SPEAKER_01]: in Oakland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's lots of ties to Bay Area culture in that movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what the big point for me was there's a storyline

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[SPEAKER_01]: a fictional storyline based around sleepy Floyd's twenty nine point quarter playoff game against the lakeers which caused them to not get swept.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The sleepy Floyd is Superman as Greg Papa said on the broadcast in nineteen eighty seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I watch movie the movies like built for me like I was catching all the little nuggets of of culture and stuff from from back then though I did catch I did catch a fall to one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in one of the scenes, they're playing a Stevie B song, high energy artist that got played a lot in the Bay Area, and they played a song from, it made me think, because I was thinking about

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[SPEAKER_01]: when so post championships, so post Rick Barry championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they went to the finals back to back years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think anybody in the chat probably saw those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I sense that timeframe, I think the sleepy Floyd is Superman game, was kind of like the Warriors fans, like the closest thing to a championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was thinking of other moments pre-staff and pre the twenty-fifteen title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking of other moments that were kind of sort of like that, which are, yeah, they didn't win the title, but they did something that made the Bay Area fans so excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought of two other moments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that I just wanted to shout out to people in the comments, even remember these moments, or if you have others, let us know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like the pre-staff curry world championship,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Time frame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two of those other moments, one was drafting Chris Weber, and for the one year that he was on the team, he and the trail spree well made the Warriors cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim Hardaway gets hurt before that season even starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Had they had Tim Hardaway, they might have been even better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But really, Springwell is all MBA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know what happens with Springwell only a couple of years later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, I, I, I saw Springwell at Evergreen College.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The warriors were in San Jose for a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they were practicing at Evergreen College and me and your uncle went out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so there's a bus, the warriors bus, and you got all these fans, and you see the people coming out of the, the gym.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somehow,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Spraywell, and a couple of other guys had kind of ducked out another way, so they didn't have to sign any autographs, and they were just on the bus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dicks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so that Weber Spraywell team, that was a cool moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they got beat in the first round of playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were not competitive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at that point, you were like, oh my gosh, Chris Weber, let's roll Spraywell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's wait for Hardaway to come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chris Mullin is still on this roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they may be good and then it just falls out the the next season and then the last one of course is that we believe team anything pre-staff it's those three things for me and my warriors fandom if you haven't seen the sleepy Floyd is Superman game I think it's on

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[SPEAKER_01]: NBA league pass like it may it used to be on there don't know if it's still on there but you know when you have when you go to certain teams and they have like the historic games I remember that being that game being being on there and then of course the the we believe stuff it's so hard to find I think it's because it was like right before the transition from age the transition to HD so like a lot of the video quality is really bad but uh you know people remember that time frame

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a ton going on in Warriors land, but you know, once they figure out this Jonathan coming a thing and for for my sake or not even my sake for Jonathan coming a sake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope he gets somewhat of what he wants because I don't think it doesn't any favors to be on this roster next year because Steve Curtis is not going to play him like it's not he's he's not a fan of Jonathan coming this game he and especially if they bring in all these vets

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he going to play Kominga instead of Alherrington down the stretch of important games?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alherring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Al-Horford.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alherrington was on the we believe team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why I mentioned Alherrington.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for Kominga, I just hope that they find a nice deal to send him elsewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That two for forty five seems like that's really the only deal that's out there for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what he's holding out for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like if he accepts that qualifying deal, my gosh, he's going to be given up a lot, a lot of money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he gets free agency, you know, next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess that would be the benefit anyways.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always, it's it's been a very interesting ride with Jonathan coming every single year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with coming in, you know, we had our, we had our coming a watch era from twenty twenty two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had our community watch era from that time frame as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think now it's just time that he's got to find another team for for the benefit of his career because I want to see him, I want to see him do well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see him play poorly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bries out next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to try my best to bring on, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Konrato who I haven't even reached out to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to try.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to try to bring him on and work around his schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if he can't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll figure out something else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But because Konrato talks, Valkyries and warriors equally well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, so that will that hopefully that works out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But okay, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For Brian, I am WG.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will see you when we see you piece out.