May 19, 2026

Valkyries Hoops: Juste Jocyte Debut Predictions & Road Trip Preview | Podhalla

Valkyries Hoops: Juste Jocyte Debut Predictions & Road Trip Preview | Podhalla
Valkyries Hoops: Juste Jocyte Debut Predictions & Road Trip Preview | Podhalla
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This week on Podhalla, Brian Gonzales, Garrett Gonzales, and guest Conrado Pascual offer an inside look at Golden State Valkyries basketball ahead of their big road trip to New York and Indiana. From pressing injury updates on Tip Hayes to predictions surrounding Juste Jocyte's debut, this episode covers everything fans need to know about the roster's outlook. Subscribe today to ensure you never miss a minute of premier Bay Area women's basketball coverage.

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are back with Pot Halla and our favorite guest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we can say that now, right, right, like, Colorado has been on the show more or time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: More than anybody else, we keep asking him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He keeps saying yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that makes him our favorite guest here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, the thing about you, Colorado, and I just asked you flat out, like, it is so cool for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to see you posting on Twitter and having videos and having answers to questions in the media and seeing you evolve in this new part of your media career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how is it for you to kind of be in the mix with this team right now?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, again, it's extremely enjoyable experience.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am I admit I am a fan but I think so far done a good job of like checking my fandom at the door, you know, I feel like I've been fairly like unbiased and try to be like impartial and in doing so actually it's actually kind of

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[SPEAKER_02]: it's even more fun, you know, because again, it kind of challenges you to look at the team from all different aspects and having this opportunity, which again, I think the Valkyries and everything for granting me the opportunity to cover the team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but just being able to see like all the work behind the scenes and that's not just like the players and the coaching staff, but again, like all the staffers, you know, communications and everything like that the front office, you know, um, just really fascinating, you know, how how much really goes in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to to making this team, you know, the special entity that it is and I say that because again I'm fascinated every time I go to Chase Center, you know, I still take public transportation, you know, I still take Bart, I still take MUNI, you know, I'm not, they don't validate media's parking, so I'm not, I don't do that, I don't know how Nathan does that, you know, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: point being though is, you know, you just feel the energy of all the fans as they make their way to the Chase Center to ball-halla.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, yeah, it's definitely given me even more appreciation, you know, for this team that we've been given.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, one of the things that I know that you really enjoy is the scouting piece of basketball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that that your, you know, your interest in scouting and maybe there's a different level of detail how you look at certain things does that help you in covering the team?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, definitely definitely I've been told by like some some long time media members like you know some media members who've been covering Bay Area sports for like the last two three decades and so now obviously they're they're covering the values as part of like their their beat or their.

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[SPEAKER_02]: their various sports coverage, and I guess it became quickly apparent to the media, some of the players of just how much I watched college basketball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So again, during media scrubs or individual player availabilitys, I'm not saying that other people give generic questions, but sometimes my questions tend to be a little bit more specific.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, about maybe a certain time in their collegiate careers, a certain game, a certain play, a certain opponent, and they really appreciate it, you know, like even when I was given opportunity to interview some of the players from the opposing teams, like I had the opportunity to interview J.C. Sheldon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, now with the Chicago sky, one on one, and yeah, she actually made a remark that like she never really heard these times of questions because I was trying to basically pick her brain about how like, you know, she's kind of improved, you know, like, um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: becoming even a more efficient movement shooter by kind of optimizing like her shot selection and stuff that she's kind of cut out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, it's definitely helped, you know, bringing some of the scouting and some of like the, you know, covering college basketball, bringing it to the the WNBA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When it comes to the actual beat aspect of it, we were talking about this earlier before we started recording.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you have a real job, like this isn't like something that you can necessarily just only do, like you have an actual day-to-day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So covering this team is also kind of a,

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[SPEAKER_01]: prioritization and and probably multitasking thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know you're still writing and you're still doing podcasts and such.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you kind of fit everything into your day to day real life.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fortunately, Velcro is media and PR are extremely organized, so more often than not, like, well, I would say no, they always give us a schedule of like a week or two in advance of like the practices.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, practices can tend to change, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have like an overtime or a double overtime game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're probably going to cancel on or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe they might move practice

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, definitely a lot of planning ahead.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, but as I've quickly found out when there is like some breaking news, whether good or bad, you really have to be on hand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if I technically broke the Iliana root pair of news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just know I was first to it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know if that means, you know, but like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I came across info earths, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you know, but no, I mean, it's some, you know, I have peers who also, you know, who cover other teams across the league and they, they also have like a quote unquote day job and, but it,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you wouldn't know it right like Andrew Dukeowitz who covers both the Minnesota links and the Minnesota Timbles you would think that's this full-time job, but you know, no, he's he's in health care, you know, so I mean, definitely jog inspiration and I talked to him the other day too, you know, and

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you know, just kind of talking about being able to provide more coverage as as you guys were saying before we started recording, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, the popularity of the league is growing and I think people like, you know, fans just want more to consume, they're ready to consume more women's basketball coverage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, so what we're going to do, Conrado joined us today, uh, you know, that the falcers don't even play until Thursday and Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They back to back games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to do a little bit of a preview.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's some roster stuff that's pretty interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody's asking about you stay and when she's going to come and play, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then later in the week, I think we're going to attempt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can Rattles going to try and come back after the two games to talk about those and also set up the homestand next week in Brian's going to be out of town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll it'll just be the two of us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's actually transition to actual Valkyries news here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Valkyries, they had signed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They'd signed Ashden, uh, you helped me with her pronunciation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Festival.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They signed her to a hardship because they had some, they had some, uh, some injuries with tip with her, uh, finger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, yeah, Chetchi, which what we believe is to be, uh, you know, a head injury of some sort.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,

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[SPEAKER_01]: they had they've used this contract which they suspended because she wasn't available.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they were able to do some things, roster wise, but they just released pressure and and what do you think that means obviously one of the two players or maybe even you stay, I don't know how that works, but who's going to be available to you think for the reason that they waved her today?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so on Sunday this past Sunday was the Velcro's last practice before they headed on on the trip.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yesterday that is Monday was their travel day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think if you checked out like their social media today, they are very much in New York.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were practicing and everything like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But on Sunday, Natalie, she did give an update.

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[SPEAKER_02]: about the three players that you just mentioned, tip, chatchi, and you stay on Cheetah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: With tip, actually while we were at practice, like Kenzo, Fukuda and I, some of the other reporters that were present, we did see tip kind of jam her finger while they were going through like some drills.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It did sound like she was in pain.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now having said that they were all quick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They being Natalie the players.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were quick to say that like she's she's fine, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So she made she went on the road trip, um, by all accounts she should be fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would assume she will be

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[SPEAKER_02]: One of the players who are now going to be put back on to the active roster, given an again that she had been going through full full practice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully that little, that finger jam doesn't, you know, have any and like setbacks or significant setbacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it the same hand as the one that you heard in Seattle?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why injury on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was the official injury on the Seattle one where there's like three minutes in and she comes out because she's like took a charge and fell on it if that's what it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So basically they called it like a left pinky dislocation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you have the pinky?

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[SPEAKER_02]: She jammed the hand and it was definitely her left hand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if there's definitely that finger itself, but.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, obviously in the moment all of us watching and then seeing her reaction, you kind of assume like there was some discomfort to that that that specific finger, but we don't know, but again, now he said she was fine and she was going to go on the road trip with Chechi again, I unfortunately I didn't get any video of it, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know these last couple days if she's been participating in any practice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The only thing Natalie said was she was with the team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was there like doing like film session and like even kind of being like an additional assisting coach with like calling out plays and calling out like you know defensive coverages.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did see her a couple days ago.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was like after practice like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Coach Landon, like he was having her go through a bunch of like just solo work, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like just kind of like doing some suicide, doing some sprints, kind of simulating, coming off screens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, she was moving fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She was just going at full speed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So given that she is in the concussion protocol, it would seem like if she's able to at least

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[SPEAKER_02]: do that much like strenuous, you know, kind of like activity or movement, you would think that she's on track.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Natalie wasn't as definitive, but she said she believed like, touchy would be going on the road trip.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not been able to confirm that today, but I am pretty sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's that's what everyone was saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When we left on Sunday that that she would be going

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's TBD.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then finally, for you, Stan, we've been talking about this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think for the most part, it's kind of out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When I asked Natalie about it, when the media first asked, they said, okay, like, what's the update with you stay?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the way Natalie phrase it was, like all overseer, with all players who come back from completing overseas commitments, they all get at least a week off to, again, rest, and then just kind of reaclimate to the Pacific

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, basically the same thing that happened when like Janelle and and Chetchi and Kaila came back, you know, and, and ill to lesser extent, Iliana.

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[SPEAKER_02]: After her media scrum, I did try to further inquire.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, wait, does that men mean that she is actually physically in the big area and she goes, she's acclimating.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's all she said.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's adjusting to the time change.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, again,

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[SPEAKER_02]: while not explicit for reading in between the lines.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I believe she's here for everyone that said like kind of like some back channels she is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't believe she joined them on the road trip.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, I would assume that if or when she joins the T or when she suits up, it's going to be in this upcoming home stand from when they return.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if it's necessarily going to be the first game back just because these last couple of games and even during the coaches versus media game, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: whether you're a player coming back from overseas commitments, or if you're a player coming to the team on a hardship contract, right, like it's not just overwhelming, it can be kind of reckless to just throw someone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: into the rotation without having gone any practice or any time to really again just kind of, yeah, adjust to being back at the bay, you know, and all that kind of stuff like that, you know, having just traveled.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think they're probably going to be, I don't want to say cautious, but they're going to be a little bit more judicious with, you know, how they integrate her

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[SPEAKER_01]: in your experience of how the Valkyries do business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, there's a playbook, there's a repetition thing, there's getting acclimated using that word again with your teammates, which you stay has not really had the opportunity to do much of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How long of a turnaround time do you think that would be in this current system, based on how the Valkyries play and the type of plays that they call, and how that is different from the style that you stay was playing overseas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think the closest that Natalie kind of went into describing how they plan to integrate her was this was like, you know, I don't know, a couple practices ago, but you know, she wanted to make it clear that with you stay, they drafted her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to be hurt, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They drafted her for her specific skill set, which I think you guys have discussed before and even before this season started, that she possesses a skill set that pretty much nobody else on the roster really has.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, they have elements of it, but in terms of someone who can again, both initiate the pick and roll, score out of the pick and roll, attack the gaps, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, VB does it a lot with, you know, dribble penetration and everything like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Gabby does it with a little bit more lateral movement.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think they want her to be able to play the way she plays comfortably, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just a matter of her being able to identify the pockets of space that will open when her teammates, you know, are forcing the defense to shift.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At least that's kind of like the way I look at it and kind of again taking what, you know, not Natalie said, but yeah, I think I think there is I think the ramp up for her can potentially be smooth just again, given the personnel that's already active and in place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think Coach Nat could put her in out of necessity or do you think she's just going to stick to like, okay, if it's like game two and like we really need someone who we could trust to hit a three,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, necessity or urgency, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or is it still going to kind of be like that, you know, will will will eventually work into the rotation as, you know, we anticipated as we planned for in the coming weeks as opposed to like an urgent thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a kind of interesting way the way you phrase it, like putting her in out in necessity in general.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They probably would having said that you could make an argument.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can make an argument then fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I won't put this on you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll take responsibility and if Natalie gets mad at me, cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can make an argument that some of the veterans have been playing out of necessity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, you know, if she, if let's say you stay was here since like the onset of training camp, I'm not sure, right, that the rotations would have been what they were when we started the season again Seattle, right, like I don't think she'll immediately say for example, I don't think she'll immediately leap frog tip.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, I think there are just certain elements that, you know, you stay, like certain aspects of our game, certain skills that you stay can bring, that say like tip or even like Katelyn Shen can bring, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Planks different positions, but again, the way Natalie likes to describe it is it's not again like I need a point guard I need a shooting guard I need a small forward except right right it's again I need five players that have the most complimentary skill sets and so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At times, that's why you'll see like say like Caitlyn and VB because again, they want VBs, like, you know, catching shoot shooting, but they need somebody else to generate some kind of paint touches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to be Caitlyn, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, because I know a lot of fans ask, well, how come they're playing together and how come Caitlyn's not just the exclusive backup?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's things like that that have been, again, out of necessity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now with Tip, Chetchie, and ideally, you stay rejoining the fold.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, I think maybe like some of those veterans there minutes and when and where they're played in the lineup will probably change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did have a question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you wanted to get into the previewing of the games, but I did want to ask one more roster question before we eventually moved on and I had to do with a little bit of ash and

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[SPEAKER_00]: When, when Rupert goes down or sorry, not good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the wrong way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When Rupert is out for the season, she with with her pregnancy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess like she is her not being available, it would make sense to replace her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, if you could find someone that has a similar skill set, you know, a four slash five that can shoot the three ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think with pretzel being signed, and I'm not too familiar with her, is she, she, she went to Stanford, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And correct all four years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, champion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Beat my wildcat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do have a memory of her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she's like six, five in pursuit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like to me like that kind of made sense as like a potential replacement and, you know, we talked about it on this podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a lot of things I think that went wrong against the Chicago sky, but you could see where Iliana could have been helpful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess Chicago sky and I guess I'm saying like, do you think that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know down the line anything happened in this league right there's always so many hard ships and and I eventually I wouldn't even be surprised if Ash and Pretty will rejoin this team on a hardship but you know a jack-a-langer one in Tonda is the one who I think replaced you stay's contract I'm not used to it Iliana's spot at the moment could you see

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eventually being changed to replace Iliana with the stretch five, I guess is what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So another word, okay, so actually, I'm glad you asked that question because I was literally Nathan Cannellow and we've been talking about this the last couple days, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It would, for everything that you described, like the situation, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you framed the situation correctly, it would make more sense if Prettyle was the replacement contract.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Jack Langa was moved to the second developmental spawn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I didn't tweet it out today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Every time a player is waved like throughout training camp, I kind of gave him a little sendoff tweet, you know, and everything, and things that like I observed, things I thought that were good,

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[SPEAKER_02]: with Pratchelod and sent it out yet because I'm not convinced that we've seen the last of her right now again this is completely not sourced but and I really like I am a big fan of Jacqueline Gowen and Tonda's game and to me even though she didn't show as much in that loan preseason game and you just really didn't see her too much on camera during training camp what she did

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[SPEAKER_02]: during trading camp.

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[SPEAKER_02]: To me, it makes absolutely like a lot of sense why they would, you know, I have interest in bringing her back after she cleared waivers and you know, the situation presented itself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think I did kind of tweet this out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: earlier today after the the pretzel waver news, but I know we're talking about pretzel, but it all relates trust me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like with Jack Langa, these last couple practices, she's been going through the same high-picking role drills that

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[SPEAKER_02]: So in other words, she herself, and I'm actually writing a piece about this, she's kind of talked about the evolution of her game and how throughout her years at Texas and Vanderbilt, she's been playing different positions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, yeah, I mean, maybe I'm just kind of reading into it, but it is notable that she's going through the same kind of drills as the quote, quote,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so in the meantime, I can see that, but I'm with you, I do think that it makes sense like from what if you're trying to at least try to reproduce some of what Eliana gave the team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Prettyal seems to do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and I know there's other things we want to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll quickly say about Prettyal though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The

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[SPEAKER_02]: The thing that stood out to me the most watching her in at practice was how much from the first day she said on there like stepped on or joined the team was how much freedom they gave with her as a high post passer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and not just to let her do it, but how efficient and like on target she was, whether so what I'm saying is like it seems like she's more than just like a tall shooter, you know, like she does have passing chops, she actually is a pretty good shot blocker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It would make sense if they revisit that down the line, but I have asked Natalie, I have asked the other players about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw it just a little bit against Phoenix Mercury, but Kaila Thorne did play the five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we kind of said once, yeah, once a million was ruled out for the season, we kind of speculated, could we see this and they did it a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm curious to see if we're going to see more of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a feeling we will until until or unless they get, you know, a traditional or prototypical center, but yeah, no, I think there is still the possibility of

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One more use stay question just because I know what people are talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know people in our discord people the comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see on our YouTube page.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of lots of you stay comments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So next week, so they play this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have two games a week and they come back home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have Connecticut on Monday, which is Memorial Day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on Thursday, the Indian a fever and Caitlin Clark come to town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as we know, all of the fever games are now the nationally broadcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they're all televised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's an Amazon Prime game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you, if I, you know, if I'm the people in in the marketing of the WMBA, and I want to push you stay as this possible phenom for for the Valkyries, I don't know how much of that stuff happens behind the scenes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it's mostly related to when a

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[SPEAKER_01]: the Valkyries believe she'll be ready, but that would be a nice, I would circle that game and go, that I hope you stay can be ready for that game because that's when the lights are going to be biggest for this Valkyries team if you're talking about from a national media standpoint and a national fandom standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine you stay being the competitor that she is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's, she would probably, like, yeah, I want to be, I want to be ready for that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think there's a possibility that they will have her ready for the home stand

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, yes, I would and I'm glad again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm glad that you bought that up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would just

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that game is it's more likely she is like active and suited up for that game as opposed to the one on Memorial Day simply because right they finished right they do the back to back this Thursday Friday so you know either they're flying back late Friday night or basically Saturday I know their schedule to have practice Sunday

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that doesn't really give a much time to really get you stay some real actual practice reps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I do think that again, she could absolutely be with the team on the bench on Memorial Day, but I would probably think that Thursday night game against the fever is probably the more likely or the more realistic

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[SPEAKER_02]: like debut game for her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the thing I like about it too is again, while I did say that she could eventually work away into the rotation where perhaps she's taking minutes away from some of her veteran teammates, at least for that debut game, barring any setbacks, tip and chat she should

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[SPEAKER_02]: put her with again, like some lineups that really, you know, played her strengths, you know, kind of like insulate any of like those kind of, you know, first time rookie, jitters or, you know, welcome to the WNBA moments and stuff like that, like she doesn't have to be overwhelmed from the get go as I guess what I'm trying to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And against the team that doesn't really play a whole lot of defense, that game will be up and down for sure, which could benefit, you know, at least those opening

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, so it's my only counter to that would be that I feel like they kind of have Indiana's number and they might not want to mess with the sauce They have against Indiana, but I think that's the same time you know at the same time you can kind of say like if they have their number then you can implement it and get away with it

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, yeah, maybe, yeah, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe maybe she gets in when they're up like 20 with like four minutes to go or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because there have been times already like in these first couple games where, you know, Natalie was asked, oh, like Milla was active.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that does count as one of her 12 games, but she didn't get in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, Natalie said that she actually did initially think that she was gonna get Milla and Jacqueline in the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I can't remember who the combo was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was like Janelle and Kyla Charles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just had it going so she just rode the hot hand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's like, I'm just gonna, you know, so yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, again, if you know, our vets are on fire and everything like that, sure, I could totally understand if you say it doesn't get in until late in the game or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't paid attention to many other coaches and how they empty their bench, but it feels like that takes coach and that's so long to just be like, all right, where does empty the bench?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even like if they're up like 20 against Seattle, like, was it like, with five minutes left or three minutes left, even that I was, I'll jack a link and one in town just finally getting in this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we got this game put away, but yeah, so we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, a wins win, though, I do believe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She does think they should have won that game by like 18 or more points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they only won by like 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we talked about this podcast like Dominique Malonga just kind of went at a me here like six straight times and got to the line or made a bucket every single time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was kind of a bad matchup for a me here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I would assume that she'll be back and then I mean at the latest, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because every of these next couple of valid games on that homestand are like kind of must CTV, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then they have that Sunday brunch game against the Aces and everything like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's going to be, I believe on what ABC or should love that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I mean one way or the other,

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[SPEAKER_02]: the nation, you know, the national fandom will, we'll see you stay in one of those two games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I told Konrad before we started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was going to be the short podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to, we don't have 30 minutes in, we haven't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we don't have to spend too much time on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the liberty and the fever back to back, the liberty three and one, and they are still missing two of their best players and and still at three and one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It feels like

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think I, I think last year when they went into New York, like they had a really good game against New York and the New York pulled it out from what I remember, it almost feels like this is a really good opportunity for the Valkyries to get one just because of the idea that the Liberty are not at full strength.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but of course, I think a lot of people think that the liberty are going to be be there at the end, possibly even one of the last two teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to it's going to be a dog fight for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just kind of wonder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how do you think the Valkyre starts in 2 and 0?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They lose a game to Chicago, which I think a lot of people thought that they should have won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of let it get away from them in the second half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Going into New York, do you think that they're pretty confident and how they match up with this team?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Brianna Stewart's having to play multiple positions in New York doesn't really have a lot of their pieces together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yet, they are still playing very well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, New York, they actually experienced something similar today, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They waived their hardship, one of their hardship players being Aubrey Griffin, former Yukon Husky, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Which basically signals that one of them, they have a quite a cavalry coming back, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like one of Leonie Phoebe's or Raquel Carrera, one of them should be active in the next couple days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also,

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... Sabrina in escrow and sought to sobly have returned to practice so there's also the possibility that they'll be rejoining uh... the liberties line up uh... come Thursday um... but the valkyries know i mean uh... the vibes are extremely high they don't really see the chicago game as a setback it was it was a loss but you know i don't really they the way they've kind of framed it is again as you said right there's a lot to learn

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[SPEAKER_02]: they were left without answers, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they would just felt that like a king, they were late making the necessary adjustments.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They understand who they are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll put it that way, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, like, the way Natalie's described it is that these first couple games still a learning period.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I mean, like, they have been very adamant, like, we just talked about it, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Prettyle is not, I mean, Prettyle probably would not have factored, but we now know for a fact,

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[SPEAKER_02]: we don't have like another center, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're down another center, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they are totally like comfortable playing, like they're they're they're small ball, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean like they're they're going into it prepared.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, they know what they're capable of.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think this year or even better than last year, they know how to play to their strengths, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They obviously, we've talked about it before.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This roster is disproportionately wing heavy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so they do believe they have every reason to believe that they should be

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[SPEAKER_02]: the top perimeter defense, you know, uh, in the W and I think so far, they've been at the top, if not near the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so last year, as you said, right, they were very competitive against liberty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They couldn't close out games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What I'm curious to see is,

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[SPEAKER_02]: The reason why they weren't able to close out games late in the fourth quarter was they got carved up right with like the big to big passing between John 12 Jones and and stewy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, like what their game plan is and even if I did, like, or Natalie would never tell you right before the game, but I mean, that is something that's going to be interesting how they adjust to her credit, Kiestox was fantastic, against Camila Cardoso, but ending Camila Cardoso is six seven, so I again, like I like that Kiestox is a kind of finding her rhythm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, defensively, she's been fine, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Obviously, offensively it's mixed bag, but I mean, hopefully she could, you know, kind of work off of that last performance, so that was pretty solid all around outing, but, you know, they find ways of

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[SPEAKER_02]: getting the opposing bigs uncomfortable, but as you just said, right, like the liberty, even though they're missing players, that's how kind of deep their roster is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that is something I'm definitely looking out for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think that's something they've kind of quietly been preparing for behind the scenes, you know, I mean, whether you get any want to call it an adjustment or gimmick,

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[SPEAKER_02]: they're definitely crafting some kind of coverage to again mitigate what their bigs can do, you know, whether that's again like big-to-big, pick-and-rolls or high-low and everything they've seen it before, so I mean they're definitely preparing for this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then moving along to the fever like Brian mentioned, they play the fever great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now the fever is not the same team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have some different pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Caitlin Clark looks like she's fully recovered from the injuries that she was dealing with last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, they're going to play it a fast pace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to play the kind of defense that that may disrupt the

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[SPEAKER_01]: not to say that I think they're going to go into New York and Indiana and sweep the two game series and come back hot again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that that's going to happen, but I do feel because there's been a little bit of doom sairs when it comes to the Valkyries because of the way the roster fits and because of the way that they lost to Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think people are kind of waiting for like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that this can really be true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that they're going to be this, you know, really great team, you know, maybe they're similar to last year or maybe there's only slightly improved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I really think they can play two really good basketball games, competitive basketball games, and then come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to the Bay Area on a high, I think ending with the fever is solid because they play them so well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you see this road trip in the way that it fits?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I'm sure people looking at it from the outside are like, well, Valkyries going into New York, and in Indiana, those are two else and they're going to come home and have to regroup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of see it differently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they have a shot to win both games actually.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I think they definitely go as Natalie DeCosis said, I'll quote her, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They go into every game with a doer dime mentality, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, then she kind of rephrase it as livin' die, which is still equally, kind of intense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, what I will say is, the values themselves, right, even with the addition

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, like, for example, last season, they finished the year dead last in pace, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, this year, even though they're significantly improved in terms of offensive rating, so they're more efficient, they're still dead last in pace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And here's the thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: They force, they force their opponents to play at their pace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They can literally impose their will.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen it, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think if anything that has been the carryover from last year, where again, you can use whatever

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[SPEAKER_02]: phrase you want like they know how to muck it up and stuff like that, but they do they can they have a very good ability at forcing teams to play on their terms now does that automatically result in a win not necessarily we saw it again Chicago, but that's why when you say again like the fever that like to get up and down and everything like that and played a fast pace.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see just if they really can, you know, and again, a team like the fever when they don't, when they're not able to get out, you know, when they don't get all like those fast break or transition opportunities, we know they can, you know, experience like those kind of extended offensive roles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to see, yeah, I think the value is again, they've, they've been very adamant from day one of training camp, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Their goal is to be the number one team in defense, and that is still ultimately their identity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do believe I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do think that

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[SPEAKER_02]: they are going to be a little bit more dynamic offensively than what we've seen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, we just need to get all the players back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, at least everyone who's projected to be available the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But defensively again, they're still defending at a level that I don't think any other team is at, you know, at least this season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I mean, there's been enough roster turnover across the league where

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I don't think that's completely unrealistic expectation of themselves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really do think they can be the number one defensive team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, yeah, if they're going to win ugly, they're definitely, they have the personnel to do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's move them away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I could definitely see them winning these games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and again, like you said, right, you come back to the, the bay, with the high of winning those games and then knowing that you're bringing back everybody else into the form.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brad, you want to wrap this thing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have anything left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just interested on how these games are going to play out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that we play in D&O well, given the two to three games, or was it, however many games have played them last year, I think they just quite frankly, I think Burton's one of the best Caitlyn Clark defenders in the league, just from what I saw, and then just to add Gabby to that, like Caitlyn's going to be, oh, I guess Kelsey Mitchell is still there, but they have the defenders to really guard those guards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Indiana's had some weird losses and some weird wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what to make of that mystic team yet because I felt like we played really well against them last year, but it looks like those young players are maybe taken a leap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm interested to see eventually when the Valkyries play the mystic, because Indiana lost it was like, overtime game to Washington and then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the liberty dropped that game to the fire of what an incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was such a fun little last couple of minutes to watch there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think we can be both teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did like your tweet about the the big to big passing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, yeah, that kind of screwed them last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I forgot about I forgot about that a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, just like stick into their stick into what makes the Valkyries the Valkyries like just, you know, mentioned it last podcast, but I feel confident.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when the values are playing teams that are really good offensive teams that maybe haven't found their defense of footing yet, like I think those I feel, and we'll see how the year plays out, but I like that more than honestly a Chicago sky team that kind of does a lot of what the values can do, just like a really good defensive team, offensive questions, like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, maybe make some noise against a liberty team that coach to Marco was like our defense is not that good yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, Indiana who quite frankly, I don't know their defensive rating, but I just imagine it's not that great given that there are two guards maybe aren't defensive, you know, pluses or I don't guess I don't know too much about Kelsey, but I know

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think to an oak is possible, but I think given that they're both a way games, I wouldn't put that as likely back also as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A little being back to back games, like I think just go one and one, I would be happy with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, come.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, Colorado, where can folks find you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where are you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where are you writing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think people at this point know your Twitter, but also mention your Twitter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, as always, you can find me on Twitter at CP3 under Score 777 and at the top of my profile.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like in my bio, you'll see all the links to where you can find me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All my draft work is at the Center Hub.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... at the center hub underscore bb uh... and then my my podcast east meets west uh... again you can collect the youtube link subscribe you know check out the videos lot of w and be a content lately so you know like comments all is appreciated and again for while you're all here today for the values i cover the values for the podium finish so you can find all my work at the podium finish dot net

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so hopefully can router and I will get back together this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll sort of figure out what our schedules look like and try and talk about the games and recap them and set up next week, which next week is another going to be another killer week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, some really good stuff happening right now though, you know, having them having a weak office kind of crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I've been like itching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what the game's not on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Had to watch some Wemby last night instead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But anyways, all right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for Konrado and Brian, I am WG, we will see you when we see you peace out.