Jung Hoo Lee Trade Buzz, Heliot Ramos' Future & Blue Jays Recap | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Thompson to Clark and Brad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had this bright idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's record after Game three of the three game series against the blue jays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a day game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll come here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll recap the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe the giants get a nice W.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that one of the worst games of the year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I can't think of many more worst games than that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, so many bad games this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It depends on how you want to look at it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, here's the bright side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The bullpen, but yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm going to be fair about this game,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was so much horrendous luck in that first inning for Logan Webb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he goes out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First two guys get on on bloopers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think Vlottie hits a ball that goes about five feet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is like a swinging bunter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's a walk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then Okamoto hits a ball that looks like it's decently hit kind of going to go off the wall and somehow it goes over the fence grand slam and I don't know what's Logan 15 pitches into the game and he's down 5-0.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was kind of crazy the way that that happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, before I even blink, I took a shower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just finished working out and I was like, I'll take a shower, I'll put the game on my phone, I'll have it playing so I can hear it from the shower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think like a five minute shower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out and we're down five nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what in the world?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I missed there was a there was another blooper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A little bit not really a blooper, but a shallow fly ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I didn't really get a good look on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I it sort of felt like maybe because of the swing junk who like didn't read it like immediately because if I think if he reads it immediately, he can probably make the sliding catch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's an out there and

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[SPEAKER_00]: He slides and it falls right in front of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That scores the run and then the grand slam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it like it started a way where you're just like, can we just like start this game over?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause that's a bunch of BS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there's that game shouldn't have started out that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then on the other side, you have Dylan C's just giants can't touch this dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a perfect game going into the fifth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has a no hitter going into the ninth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the giants made some loud contact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bryce hit a ball to the wall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Junghu hit a ball to the warning track.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Casey Schmidt hit a ball that was on the warning track.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like they didn't have good swings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But mix that in with like, how many strikeouts are like?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, there were, I think at one point 11 strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 11 strikeouts can say I remember 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's just one, you know, that there are so many games this year and maybe this is kind of the saddest thing about this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are so many games that were excited to watch and by the third inning, we're like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to turn this off and what that tells you is that the team is just not that competitive because if they were competitive and if they did have that fight in them, you'd probably stick with it a couple more innings, we've seen over and over like, these guys get down and it's almost like they're, you know, they're just going to,

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[SPEAKER_00]: with think about tomorrow, I guess is this way, but Logan Webb, what did he throw seven?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think six or seven after giving up all of those runs in the first inning and he was fine after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, really tough luck for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gives up that one that one home run, seven innings, five runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't really strike anybody out, but you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Any maybe either he or Ray or maybe the only two guys who could actually get themselves out of that moment and those are that's because those guys with the vets of the pitching staff like all these younger pitchers and we saw it with Trevor McDonald where you're just like

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[SPEAKER_00]: No way, and I know Trevor McDonald, you know, giving up 11 hits and two innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, uh, some some 80s and 70 mile per hour contact on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some bad luck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like 11 of those brother.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was 11 of those, but, um, yeah, you know, there's really nothing you can take away positively from this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think, uh, just a fresh, just another frustrating game in a frustrating season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like you said, too, I'm going to go a step further.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You said, maybe Logan Webb and Robbie Ray are the only ones who can get out of those types of situations and get back on cruise control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but I'm going to go a step further and say, we need them to get the team back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on cruise control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, right now, it just kind of feels like a rudderless ship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know I'm not sure what to think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watched the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's their punchless, sometimes on offense, and the bullpen is a disaster right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Ryan Walker who's the worst picker on the worst.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, hey, I like where I know it's been about three weeks that you hit a home run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How about I throw my 94 mile power fastball right down the middle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just this was for you, buddy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then yeah, and who would it and oracles, the perfect place to hit a ball out of, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's so easy to hit a ball at an oracle part, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the whole thing is just I mean, it's we're laughing because you can't do anything else right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just, you know, watch this scene.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're cruising easily.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Towards possibly being 20 games under 500 at the All-Star Break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you wanted to tell me that at the beginning of the season, I would have said, OK, well, who's fired then?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, and if you would have said it's just the third base coach, what are we doing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And how many moves have we made?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we seeing the young guys play?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not seeing that either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just not, and again, going back to Ryan Walker, worst picture on the worst team in baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's still on the staff and and not defaated this point and there's no roster churn there's there's no I don't know I don't I want to see more addition by subtraction at this point and and I know we're going to see it after the all-star break with the with the

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[SPEAKER_01]: trade deadline coming up but still it's it really is from a fans perspective again we're not in the locker room So I I know these guys are frustrated look their professional athletes if anybody says they don't care and they're not trying I don't believe that

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, these guys are trying, there's a point though where you're just not good, and, and, and that, and that happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, and, and again, I think Ryan Walker can find something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just they sent him down to AAA to find it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They brought him back up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not here either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, it's got to be somewhere else, but not on the mound at Oracle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could tell you that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It got so bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, Brian and my son, both my son, Brian and JJ, they're in Vegas this weekend for NBA Summer League.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But JJ has had to throw, he had to get a drive by and probably as he was on the airplane and he was like, Christian cost for a Domus, please.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how bad it is for a

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he said that right after Willie airmail that one over Devers had and then the next place Schmidt airmailed one over Devers had and he was able to luckily go up and get it and come back down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's the time thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Devers over there who's not a true first basement, you're going to get the guy killed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to come down and blow his Achilles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just

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[SPEAKER_01]: right now it's just everything is hard to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're giants fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're just going to continue to watch even if I wasn't doing this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd continue to watch it's just what we do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are looking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for those bright spots right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why the San Jose Giants had today because the minor league system is shredding every other team right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The players that the Giants have up and down in the minor league system are, if they continue to do what they're doing in about two or three years,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the San Francisco Giants could have a very very good team just right now it's it's hard to watch to get to that and then you know you talk about air milling on poor divers he's got to you know jump as high as humanly possible and then there's one that's right there and he stretches out and it falls out of his glove and you're like yeah it's just it's so hard it's so hard right now yeah you know the

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're right the trade deadline and we're we're like not that we want a rise to go he is one of the few bright nons on this team he's a gamer he's professional he has improved that is craft that's that's which I wish everybody was a rise this year right

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is the one thing that we're kind of looking forward to because the giants, I've seen them in the upper 10, the top 10 of farm systems, you know, when you get these rankings and such and they have the fourth pick, we'll talk a little bit about that at the end of this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They hopefully will get some more prospects in trades and we're going to talk about one person who I didn't know is going to be all of a sudden on a trade list or on a.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... rankings of people who could be traded will talk about him in a second uh... jenghu lee i saw him ranked pretty highly actually on on a trade list and hopefully they do get some good returns the problem is

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[SPEAKER_00]: The guys who are so bad who hurt our feelings, like Ryan Walker, like nobody else wants him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're stuck with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's a DFA, if I've ever seen one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, again, somebody else is gonna pick him up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna find something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna do well for somebody somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's time to cut bait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I say that during Sharkman, it's time to cut bait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: just amazingly bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was trying to think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in our fandom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can't kind of look back at some of the worst teams that they've ever had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see this analysis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe this is something that Grant is going to do and he'll do it in a funny way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not as negative as I'm making it out to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this has got to be on the list in the years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are we at?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 42 years of me watching Giants Baseball

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think of a worse bullpen, now maybe some of those really early bad years when I was watching it might have been, but still like I feel like guys like Gary LaVelle and Greg Minton and Scott Gerellts, like at least they were serviceable bullpen arms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think who is our serviceable bullpen arm right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bivins, I mean, Bivins had a couple of nice outings last night and tonight at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's a guy we were, I was calling for last week, but you know, maybe he should have given it in given an earlier shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm, I'm looking back, let's look back at the, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even the, okay, here we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even the Giants team that lost 98 games in 2017.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just didn't have a closer, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we just didn't have a closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we had Corey Giren as a relief pitcher in 68 innings had a 1.990 array.

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[SPEAKER_01]: are everybody's favorite guy to love 100 strict 61 innings 2.64 ERA contos who was just hanging on at the end there 51 innings 3.8 3 ERA Chris Stratton who had some starts for them 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3.8 3

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was the year, yeah, 2017.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle Crick, 32 innings, 3.06 ERA in the pen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mark Melanson, terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that was the second year after we signed into a very large deal, 30 innings, 4.5 ERA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But our clothes are that year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: was, I don't even want to say his name because he's such a horrible human being, but Sam 14 saves for for the giant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do we have Sam Dyson and Hunter Strickland on the same team?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Aren't they like the same pictures?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, at least Hunter Strickland's not like a bad human being.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the fights and Michael Morris had to get TKOed by somebody running into him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You remember that one, don't you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, here, I think you're on mute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, Brad is a figure out his mic situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let, uh, what we're going to move on here in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess to put the kind of the icing on this one is Dylan sees, you know, when it all comes out, like he actually did have a fantastic outing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think most would say at least recently in the last couple of months, the Giants often is actually pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for him to shut it down like he did, and actually the blueshades have shut them down the last two games in the series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kudos to them because there are games where the Giants, like in game one, they can go out there and score runs and bunches like they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they can't, he kept Bryce Eldridge in the park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I know Logan's web's numbers aren't going to look fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think a lot of that was the first inning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of luck involved there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So all right, let's move on because there are some other more fun things to talk about as we analyze this team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mentioned Junghul Lee, all of a sudden, being on the trade rankings list in a Jeff Passen from ESPN, he put a list together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was another person who helped him with the list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember that person's name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but he put jungle lead at number seven on his list of players to be traded and he said the chance of being traded was 50% I don't know how you get to that number I don't know what this is made up numbers are some algorithm going on that he just asked Claude I don't know what's going on but um here's what you said you said Claude a few times is that another AI

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the one that we use at work and it's actually pretty incredible what I can do with Claude that it that makes me better at my job, but I do think like part of the Claude thing is it just becomes addictive and yeah, I'm like using it and I'm feeling super productive and like oh I have all these ideas and bang, baby, and then I find myself I'm like

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[SPEAKER_00]: should I be done with work?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why am I still working?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't use a lot of AI at work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do use chat GPT at home for low stakes and stuff like trying to figure out right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been used.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been talking to chat GPT a lot and they've been helping me out a lot with the brown spots on my lawn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, low-stake stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a good usage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's coming handy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I like the encouragement they give me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because even if I make a stupid decision, like I'm going to try this, they go, yeah, that sounds great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give it a shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, it doesn't sound great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the, what's the irony there, though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is they're helping you with your lawn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yet, the biggest criticism of AI is the waste of water that it does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true because they did agree that I should probably water more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we're both using a lot more water.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Me and Chad Ducati suck in the planet dry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So here's what Passen wrote about Junghulu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wrote, Giants desired to dump their high profile players with high price contracts will run into plenty of resistance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they should be able to cobble together a market if they are really interested in moving Lee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The 27-year-old is a top is top five, and they're able to be in batting average, a strikeout rate, and considering is carrying a slugging percentage in excess of 450, and it can also play all around the outfit, Lee is primed to get a big return if the giants indeed move him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is the junkhoo that we've been waiting for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the one

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[SPEAKER_00]: we all know that because of the Korean population, he's a very popular player internationally and in San Francisco, I think the fans really, really did love Jung Hulie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we also know that part of the strategy with this Buster Posey movement was getting a ticket sales going again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mentioned this before, the giants are selling more tickets this year as pathetically, as they've been playing, then they sold last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their tenants is up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So something is working on that in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you'll see a fall out the following year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if they move him just because A, if he can produce at this level, he's actually very valuable because he doesn't get paid like Devers and a Thomas and Chapman do and B because he's so popular and because like, you know, I don't know how many Korean players there are in the MLB I know that that number is probably been growing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the the the best Asian players in the game and I think that that's meaningful when you are looking to expand your fan base And so I kind of like I would think that they would have to get hit over the head with this crazy insane like You know top three or top four prospect and somebody's farm system kind of trade to to go ahead and say okay, we're you were ready for business here with young who Lee

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a, that is a tough one because of the opt-out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what's going to hold it back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think somebody is going to have to agree to, to make the trade,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And talk to Jungoo Lee's representatives and know that he is going to opt in or rework a contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How much does the possibility of the off-season stuff affect that decision though with people thinking that we know there's gonna be a work stoppage and that we don't know that we're doing this games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's always that out there for these guys, that's oh man, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: a whole different environment when it comes to paying baseball players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do I want to really, you know, be a free agent during that time frame or whatever?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I completely agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and I would think if he stays in San Francisco, he opts in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's kind of a no-brainer for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's built a fan base here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got so many people that love him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He probably, I assume he loves playing right field in Oracle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's a tough gig, but he is making it look fairly easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, the play today was a little rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for the most part, we've seen him play a really good right field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: hitting an oracle hasn't become the massive challenge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It turns out that we we have found out that Jungu Lee thrives better when outfielders have to be positioned not straight up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So an oracle rarely do you have a center fielder in a right fielder position straight up in that part because you're protecting triple zally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he has a lot more room to drop hits in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if he went to somewhere like, let's say Cincinnati, the Yankees, which we've seen him do really well in Yankees Stadium.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you went to those stadiums, I think you're gonna see maybe even a tick better version of Jung Hulie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think the giants can pitch it that way if they do go to make a trade, but again, yeah, I think it plays in a lot

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, do you want, I mean, guys were going into their free agency years that's off these and that's tough, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tough one because they're going to be looking at, okay, we're going to have a floor, uh, salary floor, a salary cap, um, the salary floor could benefit players on the lower end of the free agency wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: a salary cap is going to hurt the higher end players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and I think junk who's kind of in the middle, maybe, you know, above the middle, so it's going to be tough to say, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if the giants are going to get a huge return for junk who lead because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they'd be better off just hanging on to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then seeing what he does in the offseason because I would think with the offseason situation, I can imagine he's more likely to opt in because what would that be?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of five-year deal, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he opts in, he opts in for two more years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still going to be a young guy at that point, but again, he's built himself a fan base in San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's playing well on the ballpark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would hate to see him get traded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's a slim chance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's more likely Hay Opson and he's here for two more years after this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it'd be nice for him to be on the team that kind of changes the trajectory of this franchise,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a great guy, I mean, he's, especially next year, he's going to be considered more of a veteran at that point, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, and I think, and so when the young guys start coming up, I think that's kind of a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you want a guy like Jung Hulie, Elliott Ramos is now going to have been there for a few years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you want that, you want to keep those guys around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's going to be important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Elliott Ramos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: speaking, he's another guy who is I would imagine if the giants get calls about players and these teams thinking that they can hoodwink the giants, he might be one of the higher ones on the list, just because the team has so much control on him still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he's come back from injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been raking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of two players on the Giants currently who has an OPS above 800.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, his, his on base percentage is doesn't seem to, it doesn't seem like it's ever going to be great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be based on his batting average.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But a slugging percentage is is nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, defensively, there's always going to be some question marks with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that Ramos is another guy who they can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe as he advances, and he becomes a little bit more of a vet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is he someone that they can kind of keep around?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cause we've talked about this for two years now, we're like, oh, you know, there's a Steve Quattraid that could possibly be out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but the thing is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They still have so much control over his contract because he's still young and you know that and in baseball that means that they're they're more valuable especially on the trademark it so is someone is he someone that you would also put in the same light as you would with junk who.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think I would lean more towards at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look, you've got, you try to sign veterans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You try to trade for veterans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You go William Namus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got devours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got chabbing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You try to get these guys to help the young guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The young guys are helped.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The young guys are now going to become the veterans, Jungu Lee, Elliott Ramos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in a year or two, and especially you got to control in a year or two, when the other young guys are coming up, these guys are actually performing right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: next year they'll be performing hopefully as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would want to stick with those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would want to stick with the Elliott promises of the of the roster to become the veterans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because now we're looking at Ramos is going to be, you know, third season, fourth season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so when the younger guys start coming up in a couple of years, the jaws of ours, you know, all of the young guys that we wouldn't wanted to see the Gavin Kehlens, those guys to have the veteran presence of Elliott Ramos and Junghulie, I think is super important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can get rid of the Adamus and the Devours and the Chapman contracts, Chapman's going to be almost impossible now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you can get rid of those contracts and hang on to Junkouli and Elia Ramus and then start bringing up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not the guys I just talked about, not the prospects, but bring up some other guys just kind of let them get to get their feet wet and play in the majors and whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yes, it's going to be ugly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We might see some better baseball than we're seeing now because you've got some younger more athletic kids coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I'd like to see that and I'd like to see Ramos and Leastick around to be the mentors for those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now you talk about these guys with their big contracts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Devours is creeping up a little bit there on the home runs in the UPS like his his numbers don't look as bad as they look now batting average wise he's still He hit in 246.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This may have been actually before today's game So his on-base percentage isn't fantastic 312, but the slugging is kind of on the rise and when with the slugging on the rise OPS is on the rise so

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably going to at least get close to maybe what his, you know, closer to what his career numbers kind of look like in general from a season perspective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to be, you know, when he was like hitting 300 in Boston and then, you know, hit double after double after double,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, his 20, 24 season with boss and he had 272 and had a 354 on base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 223 season 271 351 and then 222 253 58 on base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to get there, but the power numbers from those seasons will be a little bit closer if he continues in this trajectory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so like you and I watch these games and we go,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we need a big hit here and Willie Adomas is just like, nah, I need to wait until we're losing by five runs or winning by five runs, then then I will give you that big hit that you want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Devers, I feel like it's the same way though I would I guess I would need to see more analysis on when he hits when he gets to big hit when he extends in things and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But 18 home runs is nothing to shake at, especially if he gets to 30 this year, there is value in that bat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it just feels like and maybe it's just because the team is bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just feels like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When they are in need of something big, he hasn't done it though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he did hit a big home run, not a couple, maybe over the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He hit two jacks in that game, didn't he?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, maybe it's just kind of like the negativity of this test is of the season as biasing my my eye test, but you know, I think,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the whole part of earlier, like, oh, we got to get off-devers, got to get off-devers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think we got to get off-devers, but if he can build this resume back up, then maybe it's a little bit easier to get off-devers in the future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so the problem is right now, if you calculate his war, I think he's 1.6 right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, 1.6, let's just double.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, I mean, you can't really double it because we played 91 games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, let's say,

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[SPEAKER_00]: three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is as is war at the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be his worst war in a full season last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was at 4.3 for both the Boston and in the San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You add them up together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a gigantic drop off, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 4.3 down to 3.1, maybe 3.2.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he's lucky,

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so that that that's going to be his worst war in the majors most likely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then again, I think the question is where do you go from there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next year, where are you going to get?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to get even less because if you get even less or if you start getting just around a three to three point two war with that contract a year after year,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's movable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to be really tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to eat that contract and just stick with the rest of the rest of the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bryce Eldridge is falling off a little bit and he's starting to hit again to start to put the... And Bryce Eldridge, we're starting to learn a Bryce Eldridge fall off as he's hitting singles instead of home wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's not bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The guy's getting on base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We still have a good eye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still getting on base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's on base percentage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still pretty good for for what we were expecting to get out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So at some point, you know, if if you do want to sign a DH,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Later on in the year, do you just eat that contract from Devours and DFM to just eat that money?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's hard to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you trade them somewhere for something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, can you trade them somewhere and say, will eat 80% of the contract?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you take 20?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they can get tricky about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, we won't know until after this bargaining.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, agreement, the new one is done of what types of things they can do because we know that the owners don't want deferred contracts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they don't want deferred contracts, now all of a sudden teams payrolls are going to get larger year in and year out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's going to be even harder to move a guy like Deborah's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, all star game stuff is next week, you're going to be out of town, so I'm working on getting my buddy driving on here to talk about some giant Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see what we'll see if I can if I can get him on at some point during the week, it may even be after the all star game, just based on his schedule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... arise and logan web uh... were on uh... the rise made the team right he did so they got to even even in this terrible season they did get to i think they get a third you know how that goes

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think, you know, it's fine, Logan Webb probably gets more on just his reputation these days, because I don't think he's had a very inconsistent season for him and he's really like the metronome of the team, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just so consistent and he's the rhythm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this year he's been way up and way down, but again, like today, just kind of bad luck at the same time in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so that is something to look forward to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The giants don't have anybody in the home run derby as far as I know that they haven't announced all the field, but the, uh, the draft is also this weekend, and I saw fan graphs put up their mock, so the writer's name is Eric Longenhagen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we had been hearing that rock from UCLA was going to be the first pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he actually had grady Emerson call our high school shortstop as the first pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I imagine some of that is because rock might make might want a lot more money than some of these other guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if, you know, if there's some fluctuation,

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[SPEAKER_00]: in in in the picks, then that's kind of good for the giants because there might be some players that we didn't think were going to be available, who could fall to him like maybe rock, maybe Vaughn Lacky, the catcher from Georgia Tech, but out of the people who kind of are there at that or supposed to be there at that spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jackson Flora, who is a college pitcher, could probably get through the system fairly quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's this other kid named Eric Booth Jr, who is kind of rumored to be in that same

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[SPEAKER_00]: place and then a Jacob Lumbard who was originally mocked to the Giants very early looks like he's fallen a little bit and when I had Jarrett on Jarrett's like the student's not going to be able to hit in the big leagues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why he's going so high.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you know that's this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we'll fit we'll be able to find out this weekend the Giants drafting at four

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who they are able to pick up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, you know, we just talked about their farm system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're adding a top four draft pick from this year's draft to a farm system that is on the up and up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's only going to help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I kind of hope that if, if it kind of falls in that the way that we think it's going to fall, I hope they go with the picture, um, mostly because of what Jared said about Lombard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then there's this Eric Booth kid who I believe is a center of field or who's who's now kind of near there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's going to be opportunities, uh, but I don't think they're going to be able to get rock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think rocks fall in that far to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The brand and Crawford hangout session can only do so much, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we talked about this a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see the giants take Flora mainly because I would like to see the giants take a picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Starting a picture, it's been so long since the giants have had a true

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[SPEAKER_01]: like top five starting pitcher prospect in the major leagues and some could argue with Kyle Harrison but they didn't take him in the top five in the draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was taken to the first round and now he's acting a lot like a top five pick but the giants didn't get that out of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that makes me a

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... but if if they did somehow

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get Chalowski, I think that would be great, again, they have so many short subs, so many infielders that they've drafted and gotten from international signings of the past couple of seasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what that does is it makes it so they could trade for a top pitching prospect, if they needed to down the line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it'll be exciting to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The draft is going up against the World Cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be a little tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thank you for the really need to watch the draft or you just need to check out the right Twitter feeds to make sure you stay on top of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm blue sky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a baggly and slesser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get alerts from them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's all I need.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you leave one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's end this by talking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: not about baseball, but about the aforementioned world cups I know you're super duper into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am not a jet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not really a soccer fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of like a, you know, oh, people are interested in this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to know why they're doing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Brian, I've even Brian, we were we were supposed to go to Summer League, the California Classic over the weekend, but he was like, I kind of want to watch his England Mexico game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, all right, I'll just go up to the city.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll hang out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll go to the spot and we'll watch the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a blast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that game was a really good game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but just hanging out in an outdoor patio at a pizza spot with probably 75 other fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was, it was, it was, it was a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is a way to watch soccer, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just with a lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I kind of tuned in to the TMI USA game and was like, okay, this is not like the other game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is one of these teams is not like the other.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, just the political aspects of it and such, everyone knows what that means.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I wanted to ask you, where do we sit right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where in the tournament are we right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we are in basically the final eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: didn't usually happen in the past in the world cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been following soccer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My grandparents came from Spain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so when I was a kid, there was a lot of soccer on and out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I was at home, I would put on a telemundo and univision and watch soccer just because I enjoyed it such a fun game, beautiful game, it's what they call it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I've been a fan of Spain for years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I started following, I think my first World Cup was 1986.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was 13 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big one that I remember in 1990, and of course, the biggest one, we were all just at a high school for a few years, there was 1994.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was my first World Cup in college.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we would go places and watch that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on the day, Brazil won the World Cup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was fun to be able to go somewhere and have a beer, had a couple of coronas and watched the final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're in the final eight right now, starting tomorrow on Thursday, as we're recording this on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The final matches begin, and we're gonna whittle it down by the end of Saturday night, we will have our final four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of, I mean, of course, there's a lot of European teams still left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there's one ConcaCaf team left, which is Argentina.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Morocco is not ConcaCaf or UEFA, so it's going to be an interesting final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is that eight nine ten eleven games left pretty much no, I didn't math wrong or five six seven games left and including the final the final is going to be on Sunday July 19, but This because they expanded the tournament for the first time this season

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was a little leery about that because I thought you're going to get some teams and that that do not belong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Cabo Verde, teams like that coming in and creating upsets and pushing Argentine into the brink and one of the best, honestly, Argentine against Cabo Verde is one of the best soccer teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: ever ever seen in my life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's been a really exciting thing in the United States, Mexico, and Toronto, and Canada, Toronto, Vancouver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been so, so fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very excited for tomorrow's

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be at work, door closed, I'll still be working, but I'll be watching out of the corner of my eye, trying to keep up with it, but if you haven't caught any of the games, I know it's a little bit, so I think there's a little bit of a slower game, everybody thinks the base boss will, so I think there's a little bit of a slower game, the build up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes can take a little bit, especially if there's a team that doesn't score a lot and they want to defend, but that gives the other team a lot of scoring chances, a lot of build up to play in the middle, a lot of build up on the wings, a lot of crosses, a lot of chances, which then can create a very quick counters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other team can get down the field very quickly if they have some fast offensive players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I highly suggest watching it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been enjoying the hell out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you love the World Cup and if you fall in in love with the World Cup, please pick a team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care if they're MLS or Premier League or German Bundesliga or Spanish Latliga.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Italy League won, wherever it's at, just pick a team, follow a team, pick three teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got, I've got like four or five teams because, you know, you could have teams all over in different leagues in different countries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in two years, is the UEFA Europe Cup, which is the best teams, because usually the UEFA, the European teams, are the best teams in the world, and they have their own tournament

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[SPEAKER_01]: through Europa League, or that's, sorry, the Europe Cup, the Euro Cup is going to be happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's in Germany next year, in two years, and that's a blast to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is the next big one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then ConcaCath has their tournament that summer as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So teams like USA, Argentina, Brazil, they'll plan that tournament and then that's always a blast to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so down to the final eight, I know you have a favorite team, but if you're a bedding man, I'm not saying that you are a bedding man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were a bedding man and someone said, hey, who do you really deep down think is the best team and who's going to win this whole thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What would you say?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think what everybody else thinks and that's France and Spain has to go through Belgium next on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then if they win that match, they're going to have most likely have to face France.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and just to get to the final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a shame because the way the bracket is set up that we may not get a, we're not definitely not going to get a Spain France final, but we may get a Spain France semi-final.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be glorious and fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Argentina defending champions, they still have Messi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Messi still does what he does when he needs to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody has stopped him yet, so Frant and Argentina in the final would be a fantastic match, but I would still give the edge to Frant's, because killing and Bapé is just...

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[SPEAKER_01]: on fire right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He plays for Real Madrid in La Liga, the Spanish League.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's my team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I've seen a lot of Mbappe over the years and he is unstoppable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it would be a great final if that's what it was, but I would love to see Spain take on Argentina because I think Spain's defense could shut down messy, and I think they could win it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They'd have to get past France first, but Spain in five matches, they played five matches in the world cups so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have not given up a goal yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody has scored on them yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this tournament will go through the end of next weekend is when we will get to see the champions of the Champions Sunday Sunday July 19th at noon and I think Justin Bieber has just signed up for the halftime show so it's the beats are going to get Bieber at the halftime show I don't know who else we're going to get probably Shakira just because she is Shakira is the face of

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[SPEAKER_01]: FIFA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she has done so many world cup anthems over the years that you know, they just keep asking her back because she's so Lovable and such, you know, has such great security security.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is for me or so like I said next week We're gonna try and do an episode of Giants and Dodgers if I can get driving on board.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Otherwise, Brad, we will see you Sometimes the following week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, following week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be back one hour

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[SPEAKER_01]: before the World Cup final starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we have to be, we have to be out of our unit and Lake Tahoe at 10am, take some hour to drive home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get home at 11 and then the match starts at noon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Time to perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For Brad, I'm WG, we will see when we see you piece out, piece.