May 14, 2026

Is the Valkyries' Hype Real? 2026 Season Concerns & Jocytė Update | Podhalla

Is the Valkyries' Hype Real? 2026 Season Concerns & Jocytė Update | Podhalla
Is the Valkyries' Hype Real? 2026 Season Concerns & Jocytė Update | Podhalla
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After a reality check against the Sky, Podhalla asks the tough questions about the Golden State Valkyries' inaugural season trajectory. The episode breaks down surprises biggest concerns and provides the latest on Justė Jocytė’s highly anticipated debut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Pad Hala, as we talk about the two and one Golden State Valkyries, and I think people are disappointed that they're not the Reno.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You were at the game last night, so let's talk a little bit about your

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[SPEAKER_00]: live view of what went wrong in a game that started out like the Valks were just going to take care of business and then Chicago just got back in the game took it over in the third Valks are coming from behind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll they were able to tie it a couple different times, but they just could not close the distance at the end there What were what were some of your life thoughts as you watch that game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: First, I want to shout out Chris from the discord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She hooked me up with the ticket and it was lovely to meet you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you for the invite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think when I was watching, it kind of brought up some of the concerns from the off season, which seemed to be the overarching theme, especially in the discord being that, you know, we

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of feel like what Chicago was doing is that they just had these, you know, four, just really solid defensive guards being, you know, Skyler Diggins being Gabrielle Hawke as being JC Sheldon and Natasha Cloud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That they were just able to,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, keep these valkyries offensive players in front of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, when the valkyries ran pick and roll, he is stokes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, Kia wasn't really, the pick and roll wasn't working, but also like the ball handler would end up dribbling into Camilla Cardoso, and they didn't want to shoot the layup against Camilla either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you just had these guards in, in Burden,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and and Gabby Williams in Caitlin Chen who having it was just a stalemate of like offense that we are watching is like they just didn't want to take it to the hoop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the shots weren't falling so it was a kind of a nightmare for them and especially a matchup nightmare given that, you know, Chicago has these good defensive guards, but they don't really have these good defensive wings, but the Valkyries don't really have

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[SPEAKER_01]: these wings that that are healthy right now that that you know that i mentioned they could have gone to genel salon more in the in the mid range but there's been a clear effort to like kind of shaping up her shop profile so she's just really shouldn't freeze and not really shooting those mid range shots that she used to shoot a lot last year and i kind of think we could use some of them because

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the guards were able to kind of get by their defender or in Caitlin Jen's case, she was able to get by sometimes, but she would try to avoid contact from Camila Cardoso to not so she wouldn't get to the free their line and she was also missing the layups.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Chetji's on Xenalasini was hurt, so that would have been a player that would have been able to get some buckets up, because they didn't really have any strong defensive wings, but I have a lot, I have a lot of thoughts about this game, and I could keep going going and going.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think what we said also was, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We mentioned it, you know, while they were still building their team where in Carla got taken in the draft and we hadn't signed to have haze yet knows like we don't have any kind of downhill threat that's just going to quickly get by defender and get to the free through line or, you know, get a layup and they ended up resigning tip, but just like last year she goes down with it weird injury and we kind of just have to wait and see with her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have used Tiffany Hayes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have used Carla Late tonight, our last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, Tipei's could have gotten by her defender and just flopped.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Once Camila Cardoso got in her space and she would have gotten seven free throws.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was talking at Chris a half time and, you know, the Valkyries had two free throws attempted to Chicago's 10 free throws and it was just, you know, no one was going to the hoop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that there was a little more effort to go to the hoop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I kind of think that that was just the main theme,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, what happens when people are able to, you know, stop your guards?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what are you going to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that that's a question that will have to continue to see throughout the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what happens when a team has a comparable defense to yours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: then, you know, they're able to stop you on offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're able to, I mean, we kept Chicago to sub 70, it was pretty good, but they kept us sub 65.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, like what happens when a defense is kind of another team's defense kind of similar to yours, but they had a little bit more of a dynamic offense, where Kia Jackson has a really slow start and is able to get going like scores due in the second half, Skyler Diggins, pretty consistent throughout Camila Cardoso, they shut down, but you know, she was still very impactful,

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[SPEAKER_01]: for deterring away these guards at the rim.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whenever Elizabeth Williams came in as her replacement, that's when I felt like we kind of had a chance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just, you know, Camilla being in that game was already impactful enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was making Kia Stokes work really hard to try and box her out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was still getting some offensive rebounds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they just had these dynamic offense of players that, you know, we have a really good defense kept them sub-70, but they were able to kind of etch out a win ahead of us because of, you know, those dynamic offense of players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love games like this because you learn a lot about the hardcore fans and when you win a game like they did against Phoenix, I think a lot of us were like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm, how good is this team?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we can beat Phoenix, maybe we are really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you look at Chicago and you go, wow, we're two and oh, we should kill Chicago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We would've them last year, they're much different team this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're already dreaming of three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think a lot of the fanbase had kind of put that one in the W section already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what's cool about a game like this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not cool that they lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, you don't want them to lose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but what you are able to see is from the fan base, one expectations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like all of a sudden, the second year Valkyries are expected, you know, home court, you're playing against a team that you should be, and when they're not playing well, it's like, uh oh, maybe we're not as good as we thought we were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three days ago, we were not even sure that we could beat Phoenix at home coming and Phoenix is coming off of a back and back back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like it's just the expectation right and with a brand new team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: there, it's not last year's valkyries anymore, at least to the expectations because fans are looking at last year and going like, oh, wow, we have to be better this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And honestly, I think they are, I think they are a better team last year, but so our other team, Chicago is clearly a better team than last year's team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They sign players and they they found some players who

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[SPEAKER_00]: a Skyler Diggins type player when they were in a rut, to just score a bucket, to just get to the basket, to just get to the foul line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They missed that and that could have been tip-a-pays if tip-a-pays wasn't injured, but you know who it wasn't, it wasn't Kale Thorton, who I think in some instances, they do think that she may be able to be that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is she had probably the worst game that we've ever seen her play offensively at least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she made a bucket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, it's just those things where it's so early in the season that, you know, one of the things when you're a fan, and you think you know a little bit of something about basketball, you can be very concrete in your thinking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So coming into this season, Kia Stokes is such a minus offensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She kills the overall offensive firepower for the Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yet,

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the first quarter, at least, she was exactly what they needed her to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Make layups, make some easy shots, she had five blocks last night, which is a pretty big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then when she doesn't bring it on the offensive side of the ball, then you go, see, that's who we thought she was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was exactly who we thought she was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what we just need to see is we just need to see her play more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm not sure that they will not extract positive things about out of her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, she is older, she has a journey woman kind of player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not maybe the, she wasn't meant to be the starting center on this team, so we'll have to watch that play out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But as fans, we're trying to look for things that make us right about our predictions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you came into the season,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the three point shooting is not there, how are the values going to score that game against Chicago?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You were right because they couldn't score without the three ball falling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They couldn't create enough action.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's interesting is I just watched, I didn't get to watch much of it, but I watched the first quarter of fever and sparks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the opposite of this game, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything was just free flow offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are so many spots for Kelsey Plum and Caitlin Clark to just get their groove on and find stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this was a different game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was like an old school like 19 late 1990s NBA game where note your teams can't score.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when that happens,

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[SPEAKER_00]: who is going to be that player to be able to shake loose and get a bucket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Veronica Burton did not play well offensively and some of that was because defensively they played her so well and we also talked a little bit about that in the off season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Veronica Burton now has a bullseye around her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The way to stop the valks is to stop Valerie Burton or I mean Veronica Burton

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[SPEAKER_00]: that's how you do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were, they were looking to stop any sort of action with her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gabby Williams, I thought played pretty well, but as we know, she's not going to be that 40% three-point shooter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's tall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She can get to the bucket when she wants to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought she played okay, but you know, outside of those, those are your two offensive players who have the ball so much of the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So then where does the rest of it come from?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that we know what I thought was pretty interesting was Janelle Salon, she's not starting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the reason why she's not starting is because they're trying to kind of set the tone defensively to start these games, which is what they did last year too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you're putting your what you believe is maybe your strongest defensive line up out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you know Salon is going to come in and when she gets the ball, she's putting that ball up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she also was not really, they were not getting her the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she was trying to post up and they were not getting her the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there were moments for her to do something with the basketball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she would take a step back three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she would take another step back three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I made a joke in the discord that even when she was close to the lane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: instead of like having like a go to post mover or a mover on the basket, I was like she was just looking to step back and take a three is what it looked like she was trying to do and so these are all like little little things that I'm sure that

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you, did you see the the problems as, you know, I don't even, I don't even know how, how I would describe it, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just seemed, the offense looked like they were locked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they could not move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were trying to run their plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were getting started late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were moments where the balls kind of slapped away and you're running it back with five seconds left on the shot clock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it just seemed like Chicago, sort of maybe had the offense figured out and maybe they knew kind of what was coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Valks connect to you and they were left with like really hard shots at times and some open threes that they just missed, but just no real easy opportunity to score.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, that's what it looked like out there and that's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was, you know, it was also like it felt like when they got turnovers on defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like then you can like the ball it was every like the speed was picking up the velcro's were able to play you know with the faster pace and but it was like when Chicago would like score or get to the free throw line and it wasn't like a fast break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just felt like this Chicago was controlling the pace like these long, you know, possessions on offense and then they would score or they would get to the free through line and, you know, And that wasn't every time, but it did feel like they were kind of controlling the pace where the Valkyries wanted to play fast Chicago wanted to slow it down and then when the Valkyries were on offense, it was just what, yeah, what I was saying, like the guards were trying to initiate everything in Chicago just happens to have these lockdown defensive guards and,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not every team is going to have those type of lockdown defensive guards, maybe some teams have the locked down defensive wings that may be, you know, our guards have a better chance of getting by, but it felt like everything was initiated through the guards and they couldn't get by their defender and also the shot wasn't falling so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know, Seattle sure not that strong of a defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did mention how I liked aspects of it, but not that strong of a defense Phoenix seemingly not that strong of a defense either this is their first defensive test and, you know, again, they're missing some players, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: everything was generated through the guards and that they couldn't get by their defender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kia Stokes, although played very well, like you could see where, you know, that we kind of mentioned in a little last night, but like repair, although, like she would have gotten dominated by Camila Cardoso in the post, like that's probably something that you're open to to just going with because repair would have spaced out the floor and, and, you know, cardoso would have had to come up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then maybe there's a better chance you can

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is definitely, you know, I definitely fall victim to doing some of the stuff where it's like, you know, sometimes I get very excited about the second, second game ends and I'm like, oh, do we have it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to get it to ahead of myself here, but that's all of us though, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have this game that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: After this game, I think it's, I think you just got a.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am worried about it's kind of what I said when we played the Minnesota links last year when it was like you lose that game against Seattle on the regular season and then you're just like deadlocked into playing Minnesota number one and it's like okay well you knew we already lost that because Minnesota is one of the two teams in the league that have a better defense than us and they also have a way better offense and you knew it was cooked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So but this year like I just want to keep an eye on what happens when they play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, my back on now this is 2025 so what yeah what's going to happen when they play how does the Toronto Temple have the number one defense in the league or I know for two games in but three games in but you know Chicago's defense looked good Atlanta is someone that you know defensive I'm a little worried about

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[SPEAKER_01]: a healthy Minnesota, but we know that's not going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do think they probably have a good chance against a New York Liberty who is not playing that well of defense right now, but we know that they're, they have that offensive firepower.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's a game that the values I feel like could, you know, outperform expectations and make us all like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: overreact and and want to take them all the way but it's like maybe we need to look at it from like okay New York has a really impressive offense but their defense is lacking and that's the game's that the values are able to take advantage of what happens when it's a good defense and we're just going to have to keep an eye on how these throughout you know as these games progress I imagine the Toronto temple will not be a number one defense but you know just seeing how the grid lays out and and you know who are the top defenses and how to the values play against them

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[SPEAKER_00]: That will be something I will be keeping my eye on, they also have two bigs or depending on, you know, what Brianna Stewart is going to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She she can maneuver all around the court, but there is some size there with her and in John quail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the valks will have to figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I do wonder I was thinking about this as is watching keystokes play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's very athletic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's very long, but there are some things that you can tell she just does not do well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's not very comfortable with the basketball in her hands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know she wants to hit that three point or just so she can show people that she can actually do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She took another one yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it, you know, the there, you know, we always talk about the warriors in comparison to the Valkyries because of the team that we had previously watched and, you know, what did the warriors need for all these years?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just a big who could roll to the basket and not drop the basketball and just make it lay up is Kevin Looney.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like right is it's just not like it's a good comparison now warriors fans will say oh, I don't you know, loon was dependable in this and that but same you know same

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[SPEAKER_00]: frustration.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're just not expecting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just know what you're going to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like don't expect, you know, these great, this great offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's like good defense and just can can be out there and rolled to the basket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like just don't expect anything more than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's kind of, as she's just, you know, a Kevon Looney.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And people, I think on the Twitter on Twitter, we're saying, like, all white and amy here, get more minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure, they could have tried her more than they did, but it just didn't look like an amy here game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it looked like Camilla was putting her through the basket

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[SPEAKER_01]: getting her way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And me here is is very to six four long athletic, but she's not that strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The key of Stokes kind of has that strong base that a me here maybe doesn't have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that was just what have been a you know more of me here minutes again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think it's like different matchups are better for you know one or the other where like Phoenix like a me here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if people remember just a me here didn't have that great of a game against Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that would make sense, you know Dominique Melangas, Stephanie Dolson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those players, you know, still was able to play better against, but, you know, where there's maybe, you know, in moments where Phoenix tried to go small five with a list of Thomas or DeWanna Bonner as the five or, you know, Natasha Mack was either out or not playing that well, like, yeah, me here, he's able to take advantage of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be, but also we just got, you know, the, the, a new six five center from Stanford hardship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I'll see is her name Ashden Prettyle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know how the pronunciation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm interested to see how they integrate her because she's not on a developmental contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She is able to play and they clearly need a someone who could shoot from distance as a big in my opinion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if

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[SPEAKER_00]: the valkyries try to run out a death line-up e kind of line up can they I'm just asking if they if they wanted to zag if you're like you know what kiestoaks and and Camilla like we were able to play this very well for two and a half quarters but we need to do something else we need to how do we

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[SPEAKER_00]: get out in the open.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They definitely want us to slow down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do we get out in the open?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That the rebounding was very close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the rebounding was similar for both teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if the idea was, let's get out and run and how do we get out and run?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we put it me here at center.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who would be the other four players that you would put around in me here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because you need shooting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You also need to get the rebound so you can run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What would, who would that, the rest of the, the other four players be in your death lineup?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ah, I mean, for sure, Burton and Gabby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If a me here's at the five, yeah, I mean, I guess she kind of has to be, because we don't really have any fours that could play that are like a four slash five, like a Monique Billings was last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a me here for sure, but in for sure, Gabby feel like you got to say Janelle with how she's been shooting the three, she's slow or of a player though, she's a comfortable and like more slow if you don't go Janelle than maybe KT and and Chetchi but Chetchi's also a little slow, but she can shoot the ball so well, so how do you not put her in one of those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you kind of need her for the shooting and you could also look at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: having tip in there and maybe stretching, chat you to the floor, I like there's there's I mean, Charles knows fast and she's she's she's she's been in some of these.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Burton and Gabby as these all W defenders, like why, why can't we just probably not open or probably don't want to get the early foul trouble on the other two guards as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's a great point because the one thing that Kyle does is she gets rebounds and she sticks her nose in there and you can kind of see her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: little no nonsense at times, which is really, which is really fun to see, but I don't know that they actually have a death line up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just thinking, there is going to be situations this year where the line up with stokes is just not having it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So how do you flip the switch?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What can you do to flip the switch?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How does Natalie, how does she think in the space of, how do we create

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[SPEAKER_00]: offense when it is hard for us to get good shots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just it's just something that that I was thinking about and, you know, I don't know if that's if that's something that they look at, but, you know, there's going to be lots of opportunities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: unless they do find someone else to play the five spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be so many opportunities to go, okay, we're going to need to go small, we're going to need to run, we're going to have the right people and to get rebounds, whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like, I think keystokes is good as like a 15 to 20 minute player, but they're having her play 30 minutes right now, and that might be a little bit too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eight day seven days from now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think seven days from now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Against the liberty and then the next night against the fever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they get it back to back against his at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now I think the I want to say the fever game is away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The liberty has to be away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll let me let me look it up here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: John Quill Jones numbers here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they play at the Liberty Thursday at the fever Friday, both early starts and then they come home on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the fever come back the next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the fever are going to be in town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that'll be a big ticket to to see Caitlin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got time to figure this out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This WMB schedule is so weird to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How can you play back to backs and then not play for like eight days?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they'll they'll come back and and I'm sure you know we'll have a lot of we'll have a full week to get fired up for that Liberty game all the the people who are really excited and the people who are like see I told you so which is everybody like we're we all think like that we we're all hardcore fans and I do not

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[SPEAKER_00]: dismiss anybody who is passionate about their their thoughts as long as they're not like negative or mean that it's all good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we I told you to think about I mean beginning season we got three games underneath.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got three games underneath their belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What has been a big surprise to you in the first three games so far?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the flip side, we'll do the other thing, which is like, you know, the biggest concern still from the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think how good I feel like I shouldn't be that surprise, but I think a mix of just Kyla Charles looking as

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[SPEAKER_01]: Good as I feel like she has.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know she was a starter for us at the back half of last year, but that was a little bit of, you know, due to injuries and and stuff like that, but she's come in and, you know, reclaimed her starting position and I think has just given them exactly what they need from her, which is just really good defense and and a hustle player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think Kyla Charles has played very well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Janelle Salon from distance, at least for those first two games, that was incredibly surprising as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't think she was going to shoot it like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe, you know, maybe we start to see the cooldown, but I kind of, I'm kind of bullish on her 3.0 shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm hoping that's not the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, those two, because I'm not surprised about Gabby looking as good as she did in that Phoenix game, you know, I know we haven't talked about that Phoenix game, I don't imagine we will put, I thought that that was like just a pure like showcase of what Gabby Williams can bring to your team and it was perfection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was so good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not, but I'm not that surprised that

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm going to go with with the Kyla Charles and the genel salon pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think for my surprise perspective, the fact that they were able to create so much offense from their defense in those first two games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there is a, they play with a certain style, like you can tell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why I mentioned, I'm, I'm guessing Kyle starts in general doesn't start because they want to set the tone with their defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is that that is a better defensive start for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just the ability for those two guards at the top of the key, just to set the tone for the rest of the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then to create offense out of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then as you can see, I mean, this is kind of the style is they get so excited when they stop the other team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if fires them up, like it gets them going and it really creates just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: energy for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think we were all kind of like it should work this way because they're both really good defenders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What you want to see it in real time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we're able to see it even yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did a great job yesterday too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't able to create as much offense with the defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Chicago didn't shoot very well either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you know, there's one of those games where neither team shot well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you got to give credit to both

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess I would say my last one is I'm gonna lean towards Janelle as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she's short, she's not short of confidence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can tell she definitely believes like she's the best player on the court.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the three point shot falling the way it has like it doesn't does the shot look any different to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it looks the same right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same line drive shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's so it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well the arc the arc is maybe a little different, but the way she shoots it, you know, the shot shot form is the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can tell she believes

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[SPEAKER_00]: that she can shoot that shot because she's just taller than the person guarding her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when she's got a wing on her and she's in the corner or she's near the three point arc, she doesn't it doesn't really matter to her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How close that defender is, she's comfortable putting that shot up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like that comes from her off season, and wasn't an off season for her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an off season for us as WNBA fans, but her international season where she was lightened up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's kind of carried that over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw a lot of last year where it was like, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, she made it, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She got a little bit like that yesterday in the Chicago game where you're like, oh, I don't know about that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then she did make one as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is definitely a surprise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to see if she can continue that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now more than likely, you know, with the way percentages work, like she's going to, you know, if she shoots in the high 30s, I think we're going to be happy with that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If she shoots in 33% then you're kind of like, okay, maybe you shouldn't shoot as many.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But she's very comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's very confident.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is fun to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What about your biggest concerns right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's kind of what I said at the top of the show, uh, what happens when you play a defense that's comparable to yours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd say, okay, let me let me answer your concern with a question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If tip Hase is in that game, is she the person who possibly can get them to the free throw line and get some layups and get them some easy scores without a doubt, but I think there are different defenses than like

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think Chicago was just very impressive at the guard position for defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what happens?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's like Atlanta's like pretty all around, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of got it all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I think Tipez would have really actually like, maybe would have won them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I wouldn't be, I wouldn't feel like that's, you know, two outlanders to say that Tipez would have won them this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They only lost by like six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, yeah, it's,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that would have, you know, I don't know if a tip A's would win them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Other games against these different defenses that are very impressive as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the, I think Chicago, just specifically, I keep saying it like they're, we all, their guard defense was incredible and Nacasa doubled down by saying, like, let's run our three guard line up with Gabby, Caitlin, and Veronica to try to generate offense, and that just didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just used to try to see Caitlin play as much as she did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes and no, no because like, you could tell she was getting to the hoop, but yes, in the sense that like she wasn't making it, so they just wanted someone to get to the hoop, but she was getting to the hoop and then I'm not getting to the line and then also not making the shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like you know what I said, like how I feel like Caitlin's just, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you know, excited to see her growth, but it kind of does feel like it's like that early guard a phase where it's like, you know, teams are kind of baiting you into looking for your own shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, can I say that Caitlyn Chens of Point Guard because I feel like her, she's just always looking for her shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not really, like setting up a teammate is plan B if plan A doesn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's what you said is they play off a her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's like, oh, if someone plays off, I mean, I have to attack them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is what my job is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to go back to Chetchie as well because what we saw in the little bit that she has played this season six minutes in the game one, it was an awesome six minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what she was doing was she was attacking the mid-range and that's what they didn't have yesterday is it was all threes or layups and I know that is the strategy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but she was the mini KD, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And who do you win the Warriors in 2016, 2017, 2018?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when staff would go cold, when clay would go cold, it'd be like, okay, we need Sean Livingston to back his little man down and shoot 15 footers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we need KD,

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[SPEAKER_00]: to back his little man down in shoot 17 footers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's how we stop the, you know, get back into the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Checi could be that player for them because she also has some length to her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she also has the footwork to get to shots that she feels very comfortable with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So who knows how long she's out because she did, it looks like she's in head injury, even though

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so weird to me that there's almost no information about these injuries like no expectation Oh, and she's coming out if you have if you play a WMBA fantasy basketball I still have no idea when Satu Sabali is coming back to my team I have no clue like it's like the the date changes on the app like every every a couple of days So this is like come on WMBA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't have to give all the information just get a little a little bit more information but you know, she's

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the last six minutes that you said, we were all like, oh man, like she's exactly what they need in those positions and and she did it and then she's not there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those two players, very interesting that they bought you kind of thinking, oh, if they were there, how would they have fit in and that just shows you that they have some depth to this team and some of Natalie's challenge is going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: playing the right players at the right time because we believe that she's leaning towards defense, especially to start these games, when is she going to go like, okay, we need a little bit more firepower here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to have to take a Charles off the court and put Chetchy in or there may be some games where it's like, I'm going to have to sit Charles because we need

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[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of, as we've seen with Steve Kerr, he also leaned towards defense sometimes like GP, GP has a job because Steve Kerr trusts him to make the right basketball decisions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you are looking at it from that perspective, like they have 12 players who they are willing to put on the basketball court all the way down to Caitlin Chen, they're getting minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So how do you put the pieces, the puzzle, the puzzle pieces together?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what Natalie's job is going to be putting the right folks in at the right time while still

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[SPEAKER_00]: utilizing Burton and Gabby as your two best players and you're keeping them on the court, you know, probably 30 minutes plus a game every night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be interesting to see how they play that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as we also know with WMB, there's so many injuries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you do have to keep people active because you don't know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you're going to need them and now like like for right now you're missing two of your better offensive players and so you're playing folks like, hey, need you now that's why they they get into games when some people are like how come Janelle's not starting well it's because you have to get other people in there too and and so you know that's part of part of the job and what seems to be maybe like a difficult part of the job like can you imagine

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do in the old Mike Brown job of giving all the minutes to everybody on in the lineup of how many minutes each person is going to play with the rotations look like that's just a kind of like a very hard job for for coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you, what's your temperature gauge here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were flying high after Sunday night, the game against the mercators, like, oh my gosh, this team, they may have took it up a level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we, what, where did we get to in the Sabrina scale?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like five, like, I mean, there were some power rankings that we had, like ESPN had us too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, that's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's not, I, I think,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're still a little higher than I think I started at around that that six to eight seed expectation and then after the Phoenix game I was like hold on a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there is there a top three potential in there and I think after this game I'm more down to like maybe like

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[SPEAKER_01]: six, you know, still on the higher side of the six to eight, but like I think that, you know, I think how much offense they're able to create off of their defense, I think that's real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but I think, yeah, I just, I know I sound like a broken record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just want to see more games against impressive defenses to really kind of understand how I feel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Indiana, but I mean, you know, Chris and Marco in that warriors system knows the importance of defense, but I was just listening to the no off season podcast and I guess he's been talking about like, yeah, we let our opponent score 90 plus in the first two games and like that can't keep happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's out of aware that their defenses and performing that well, and we know that they don't have sought to Leo feed bitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I, and S, so they don't have, they're not nearly full strength, but they, it should be better defensively than they are right now regardless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I don't know if we're going to get that defensive test in any of the upcoming two games, but we'll see my mindset is just being the top eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's if you're in the top eight, then you're improving because I think the league overall, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some of these teams have positioned themselves in certain ways and then on the flip side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some other teams are going to struggle a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're in the same spot as you were last year, I think you're doing a pretty good job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's end with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's what's the expectation for you stay when is she coming when is she going to?

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[SPEAKER_00]: show her face except for at the Warriors World event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll about to say she has to be here by the Warriors World event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which when is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it like June 7th?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what does that look like on a schedule perspective for the Valkyries?

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[SPEAKER_01]: June 7th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they will have played one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would have played eight more games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're in Las Vegas, June 6th,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, yeah, I mean, she got to be there by then, but you think that she'll be here by the New York game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you think that maybe what they go to New York on Tuesday, probably Tuesday or Wednesday and maybe just Tuesday and they probably Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so you play Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You think that she's in New York by Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not saying she'll play, but you think she's there by Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, shoot, we've been waiting for this for a while, like, just to get the opportunity to talk to her, you know, where I, when she was drafted, like, I mean, blessing and a curse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the talk to her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Curse was now I was even looking forward to more of seeing her play on a, in about prison, a form when we knew that was going to happen for a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So finally, that's about to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, the, the, the, the kind of, a warrior's world event.

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[SPEAKER_01]: First warrior's world of

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[SPEAKER_01]: thing that I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said, and I'm just going to get a warrior's world shirt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that coming?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's she's she's she's not listening to this, but I've bought two of his last two giant shirts, the one with the broadcasters, and then the one Willie Mays, I was going to win them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm looking forward to a Valkyries piece of memorabilia there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a, um, because of you, I'm a big warrior's world thing because you went to all those early events and I've gotten to meet people from you or through you, that also went to those warriors world events, but I think that, you know, this event feels a little too voyeurzy for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where I feel like they're like the Valkyries, you know, what what's the stat that how much percentage of overlapped is there in the season ticket holders like I think it's just a different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, kind of community, and I would have liked to see, like Devout, I said it in the discord, but the Valkyries say less crew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, they're the ones that should have gotten the, they should have reached out to them, and maybe they did, but should have reached out to them and gotten the, them, to be so other, who, whoever the radio guy is, thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's, it's interesting to see, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is what is the interest in that kind of thing for WNBA player?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when I was going to those warrior's world events back in the day, what they were is they were essentially mixers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was like, your warriors fan, it's kind of like a meet-up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll have drinks, we'll have food, and just hang out, and there'll be music, and you'll just vibe out, and meet up with other warriors fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that, that's what was really fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, was there a game?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't know if it was just hanging out, just hanging out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just chilling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just meeting up people who liked the basketball team like you, and you met, you got to meet my buddy Miles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: miles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would see him there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know Ben Cruz is there, but I didn't know Ben Cruz at that time, but they were like, you know, three or four or five different people that I would just go and say hi and hang out with and chill out and then, you know, then you'll be done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is essentially because this is kind of like, I'm assuming that it's going to be an interview with her of some sort.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and her persona as shown by your interview with her, which is, I think, probably the first time most people, at least people listen to this ever heard her, she's got a really cool vibe to her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's very laid back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's a young person.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's what is she 20?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that environment for her, it'll be interesting to see how she feels or how she fits in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, if she's a good player, like we hope she is, there's a star quality to her, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's what that's what she sees in her as well as it's just a little bit of a star thing like maybe maybe she is the person to kind of take the mantle and and take the the Valkyries into you know maybe he's going to instead of warriors world he's going to have a Valk's valley we you try to get you take it we we can he can take that one we change in the right as we don't like it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so I'm interested to see her in those things, but I just want to see her on the court.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want to see her basketball skill set.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see how Natalie uses her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could have used her yesterday, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she, she, she, you know, she can, she should be able to kind of fit in and help out in those scenarios and she's so young, you know, she's gonna be inherited as like the little sister now that Carlos gone, because she's so young, she's the youngest player on the team, all those things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm excited to see her, so I can't wait and I can't I can't wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we say you got the first interview like I'm gonna I'll send them the the link to the the interview so all right okay so we'll be back at some point next week to talk about the team not sure if we'll do a preview or not because it's you know if stuff happens like if if you stay all of a sudden is ready to ball then that we'll have to talk about that but I will at least be around after the game so uh one of those days after the game

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for Brian, I am WG, we will see you when we see you piece out.