Dodgers & Giants at the Break: Favorite Players, Trade Targets & Who LA Should Fear | Giants Vs. Dodgers

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are live with Giants versus Dodgers, and I got my buddy Draven hanging out here today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So definitely thank you to Draven for hanging out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Brad is on his vacation last time Draven and I talked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was right before the season started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is very timely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is right at the all star breaks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're a little bit past the midpoint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and uh one of our teams is doing great and the other team is not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't we don't have to name names here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other division, the rest of the division is not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what what a what a collapse like what a collapse of the of the entire division like he like the entire of the entire sport I think with you see the rest of the other teams and the other they what a weird season is a weird a season of I've been watching baseball now for at least 35 years straight I cannot think of a season like this where you have

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the on-base percentage of the American League is ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though they won, and I'm talking about the American League, for it's not a team, the entire league, and also their win-loss records.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last time I had texted you, they only have 14 of over 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't have more now, but I think it's five now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is so weird, and they show up to the All-Star Game, and they fucking the pitching staff just runs wild over the National League.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, what's going on here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What kind of twilight is going in my hand?

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, the National Accentral By itself has four teams over 500.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they're usually the week, the week is the vision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, there's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of analysts that are saying that our path to to to the three feet is going to be the course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be our big barrier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm definitely going to ask you about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll save that for the end because I'm interested to know who you are the most worried about because last year, I don't think you were really worried about the brewers and they proved you correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, last year I was worried about the fillies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I said that since the very beginning, yeah, that's the last.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fillies I thought should have had a better showing themselves, but now, you know, the Brewers backed back seasons have improved and, you know, I'm looking on the other side and it's kind of hard to figure out who that other team's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Yankees and the rays have the two best records in the American League, but neither let me give you some production value in your

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I have kept everything up, it's really hard, and I have the ACM, but that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to be like the G1, and she called over like the worst production industry, um, but we go ahead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh, yeah, so we'll save that for the end, because I think, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, you know, we're talking about three peats and three peats are tremendously hard because you are playing in extra, you know, I don't know, what does it like 15 games in the postseason or whatever, it's probably more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: On a team, it's tough on pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's tough on players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine you have 162 games season and let's just add 20 games, you know, for how many years in a row to get to that title.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is hard in of itself, but it's almost like, man, the road is kind of paved, at least in the American lake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll get to that because the first question that I wanted to ask you was just overall, like, did you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: it was going to be like so Edwin Diaz goes down and it's like oh my gosh we signed this guy and and he goes down Blake's now Tyler Blake's now in and glass no go down you're like oh yeah no let's do real Blake's now entire glass no usually business as usual let's hear about them and yet nothing went wrong in the first half of the season like everything like you guys are on pace to win like 105 games or something which is it's just like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Business is usual.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys had the depth, the flexibility in the roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Your number, I don't know, is that the lefty is he like this number six starter and he makes the all-star game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like let me stop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me cut you off right there because I want to go on a rank.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, this is this is a great example.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm glad the the purist of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not understand this, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because how many times have we been here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last year, we barely won the championship, you know, we very, and it was hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was hard to show you how hard it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at how poorly Toronto has played this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And last year, it required one of the the Phillies picture having a brain fart, it required the Milwaukee Bridge completely shutting down their offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It required the the Blue J's just like it was locked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was you know, whatever it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I'm here to admit that it was hard and we had the best team in baseball on paper.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The first actually had the most wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this year it's a great example and they probably keep some saying this over and over for the screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean it's like, you cannot buy champ in chips, look at the New York meds, you know, look at the sand table podress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, what you need is you need a synergy of all the departments working together, and what we're seeing now is we see in a combination of yeah, we have the big guns, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have the Freddie Freemans, the Mookies, the Snotani's, all these guys, but we also have, we also have, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: a farm system that's bearing fruit right now, you know, we have she and, you know, we have Roblesky to pitchers that are the top of the league that are that are dodger products, you know, and what about Andy Baha's?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Andy Paas is one of the best centerfielders in the game today, and he, we, we didn't believe he's making $700,000 a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the point I'm trying to make is that you have to have a synergy of baseball operations in order to win championships.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You cannot go out there and say, I'm going to buy this, I'm going to buy that and that's how I'm going to win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the most simplistic story to make the Dodgers the heels of Major League Baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like they've represented, we'll take it, we'll take the branding out, we don't care.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know the truth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The truth is that it takes more than spending money to win championships and we're seeing that right now to a team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of our guys are down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't even brought how much of a disappointment Kyle Tucker has been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, him and Comforto have the same numbers right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The giant spent a lot of money in the last not really this year but last year to get some to compete and all of those guys are

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[SPEAKER_01]: underperforming like by a large amount.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, some of it is, you know, having the depth, like what happens if you spend this money on Kyle Tucker and then he doesn't deliver well, you have the depth, you have players kind of waiting in the wings and we didn't even talk about, you guys have the best young,

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[SPEAKER_01]: outfilled prospects coming up in baseball so much so that if you needed to spin a few off you totally can and it wouldn't really hurt though we'll talk about that because I'm kind of interested in your thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been reading some dodger stuff about whether or not you guys need to really go chase down players and there's I think it's out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like as long as you guys I think people are happy with the depth of the current team right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and Andrew Freeman hates renting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He hates renting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't rent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a record stating, I built a team in the beginning of the season to take us through the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't like to go and give prospects and rent players for two months, three months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't like to notice the last couple of years he hasn't gone anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he takes a lot of heat for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Adam, see us going out there and gain anybody to be honest with you, but there is rumors, you know, and we'll go talk about him, but we could afford it because we make you say, we got the prospects to kind of, you know, give up for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then again, who did we go a couple of years ago with Miguel Vargas, and I'll look at him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, it just showed what it shows, though, is you're like, yeah, we scouted the right dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he turned into a good baseball player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, remember that whole me most him wearing the Dodger uniform on the first half and then the white socks uniform and he's all sat in the dugout and they lost hundreds of games or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But not looking at him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's an all star and the white socks are taking us before that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing their playing good baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So on the flip side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My team has taken quite a fall, and if we go back to that first episode or the earlier episode for the season started, I was very skeptical about this team, I was not confident that they had figured things out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They decided to come into this season with the worst number of

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[SPEAKER_01]: bad bullpin arms that you could possibly put on a roster and buster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you know this, but so this is kind of a little bit of a local meme here about buster posy, but buster was just like, look, like, we'll figure out the bullpin stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to invest in the arms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he went on local radio.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, the old radio station that I used to work at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was early in the season, so the giants were not out of it yet, but bullpen wasn't performing well and they asked him about the bullpen and he's like joking with the radio guys he's like, what did you want me to go get Edwin Diaz because this is right when Diaz got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was like he's joking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's doing a little bit of ballbusting because he's also an ex-Joc and, you know, when he's the superstar baseball player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got the radio guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's got to talk to these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's kind of like just, you know, flexing on them a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that video and that little sound bite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is still going today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every time the giant's bullpen fails and they just did recently, they had a lead going in the ninth and then they give it up again, that then that video just keeps circling the Bay Area Twitter again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, this is what you decided to invest in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These are the outcomes, predictable outcomes, and with the giant's are left with, um, I saw

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[SPEAKER_01]: the entire pitching staff is a minus five point five wins against average.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, wins against replacement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like, yeah, like you get what you pay for, but it's because they heavily invested in the offense last year, which has not, they've not been good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're hitting the baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at a good clip, but not at to the level of what they have paid for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then to offset just the terrible pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like the offense is actually producing bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, you have to get a nasty month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's the point of scoring runs, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can't keep the lead because you don't have any pitching to all the lead for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're scoring nine runs and the opposite is going 10, you're still going to have a losing record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's important just, yeah, I'm making sure you have a little bit of both.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a lot of good closers out in the market last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't just that one of us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there was a lot of good closers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not only in the market towards the end, but also in the middle of the season, that season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just didn't want to make any moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let me ask you a question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that in that episode that we talked about and we're going to see them, you were a little pessimistic about the team, what has been worse than you expected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK. 100%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I expected that one of my 100 team I remember you wanted them to end up like 80 and 80 or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would I wanted what I wanted was I wanted to be convinced that they were better than just 500 because the like the last several seasons, whether they started out great or whether they started out poorly, they kept getting pulled back to the middle and they were like around the 80 win mark and I was like, look, they are an 80 one and 81 team

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[SPEAKER_01]: I expected or I was hopeful that they would be a little bit closer to 85 rather than what they are, which is like a 65 win team or whatever it is right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe is that is that what is projected right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I probably closer to 70 or whatever, but yeah, it's like they are they are a poor, they are a poor baseball team and the thing one of the things that

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of expected, but just an expected to be this bad is that when you have the young manager, who has never been a big league manager before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not to say that this is his fault completely because it's not like there's some there's some things that he's done that he's definitely had to learn from and yeah his quotes are not hitting with the media like like they would if the giants were winning like he's quoting like the town and stuff but also I don't know what he manages his clubhouse either like he allows

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[SPEAKER_01]: He let them be professionals and it's a little loose and I'm fine with it because the giants have won championships for the loose clubhouse, but if the team is bad, I think having a loose clubhouse is probably looked at or perceived as a little bit negative and he's kind of a

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just the roster, like Buster Posi's vision of whatever his vision was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just did not work and I think he needs, I think the focus on like, is it vertelos fault or is it Buster Posi's fault?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would lean more towards Buster Posi's fault, even though he told me that you've told me not a perfect manager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Traditional traditional league was going to happen even though this is not fair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If anybody's going to get through the bus is going to be the teller, we know this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially because you know why?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bus supposedly is probably going in the Hall of Fame next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's going to be a giant marketing campaign for the team and it's like the general the guy who guys running baseball ops is going in the hall of fame and thus It's going to be hail bus deposition for the for the fan base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah in that to that and if if something goes wrong again next year Bus deposes not excusing himself bus deposes also part of the ownership group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he, you know, he may step down, but he's not going to be fired from the organization in any way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but you also have to have the self-awareness of like maybe maybe I need fresh eyes in this position that I'm holding, you know, and I'm not necessarily a winning team, but he's a competitive team and so what I think you're saying is that they're going to be sellers here in the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I absolutely think they're going to be sellers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: there's a possibility now here's the thing about that is they have these larger contracts with long deals left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you think about a guy like Matt Chapman like a guy like Matt Chapman could help a team that is kind of like on the cusp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But most, I mean, even if he doesn't hit, he's just got a fantastic glove and he's just a smart player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, I'm not sure if he's ever really going to hit well any more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting up to that age where you kind of like, you know, somebody like the Blue Jace, he would help them because the Blue Jace are not out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're, they're containing and, and like you said that they need that that one guy's kind of out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he and he's he succeeded there before as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, he played there before, but the problem is is that he's owed

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[SPEAKER_01]: a decent salary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not making you know crazy money, but he's owed a good salary for several several more years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So from the Giants perspective, you're like, do we want to trade Chapman where because of his contract, his value might be lower to other teams?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we could pay

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[SPEAKER_01]: some of that money to get a better prospect, or do you just keep them and go through this dance again?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Next year, that's really the question, because like guys like Adamas and Devours, their contracts are like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: organization, sinking contracts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so nobody is going to want those deals that I'm sure the giants would go, hey, you know, is anybody want devours?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they just get one team to go, we're kind of interested, they would probably be like, look, we'll pay some of, you know, a lot of the salary, just to get off of the contract, not that devours is a bad player, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to have what is the five years of major league, you know, what do you call it a seniority in order to be able to veto the trade to have the trade clause, veto or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he's there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he might say, I don't want to go anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't want to make this money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would have to look into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he is or not, but,

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[SPEAKER_01]: like, you know, they, they, the other thing about the diverse countries, I think there's a lot, there's some deferrals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think the giants are actually on the hook for devours until like the early 30s or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's not a good deal when they did it, but it just not yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's, I think it's a deal that you probably do when you are in the position that they were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and it just didn't work out as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Though by the end of the season, Deborah is still going to have it's 30 homers and his 95 RBI and you know, he's going to slug close to 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is just his his batting average in his defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His defense is not great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But really the problem of Deborah is as he's

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[SPEAKER_01]: he's plugging a specific spot that they want to open up, which is they have this left hand at Slogger Bryce Eldridge who's he's he's playing good baseball like he for he's this dude's like 21 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's he's got like a will clerk eye like as far as not swinging at bad pitches and getting on base because he's not swinging at bad pitches like really really good now because he's so tall he's like six seven he's going to have some holes in his swing so he'll go through some slumps and such but like if I'm the giants I'm like let's put this kid out on the field like every single day but then he endeavors play the same position not only first base but also DH so you got two kind of slow sluggers

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[SPEAKER_01]: at those two positions, which doesn't allow your line up to be as flexible as you want to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's playing the H1 that was playing first base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eldry 8.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they could they could bring them up that way, you know, and at 21, he's still under team control for at least seven years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be a minute before they have to make some decisions on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to actually be one of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see these young guys signing these long deals like so that they don't even reach free agency or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that they their arbitration years get eaten up, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They may do something like that with him just because he looks like a keeper, but the problem is just that he's got somebody blocking him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what happens when people start getting old and start putting on the line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we have the same issue with Dalton rushing because all to rushing, he's a little bit of a hard hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to say, why does everybody hate that guy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: because he's kind of like the brimed moment of major league baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like like this guy, he's going around calling players, you know, the F word, fat shaming them and then he's trying to throw down with a little tiny, which is something you just don't do, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he started punching himself when he gets upset and that's why I don't know the guy the guy's a loose cam, and but uh, but he's an amazing ball player The only thing is that he's behind Will Smith and Will Smith's an austar catcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna have him for a very long time Because Will Smith is just he just barely turned 30.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we sign them for a bite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna maintain your country So

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have to make some decisions on him now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only, he kind of reminds me of like a you see a pig in a way and another loose cannon, you know, where I think his attitude is what's going to really make for break him in major league baseball because the end of it doesn't have tolerance for those kind of I like those characters, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the rock doubles of Majority and they're, they're fun to watch, they're unpredictable, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: the way MLB is now, they don't have tolerance for those who's kind of kind of guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to make a break him, but he's a guy that can't be the second string catcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's took good for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And right now that Will Smith has been hurt, he's going to a little bit of a spotlight and he's just, he's been amazing, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's another one that, you know, when we talked about the farm system 24-year-old kid, who just came up and has really stepped up and has really delivered for us when we need him to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I mean, again, I go back to this argument of like, you can buy a championship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of where we're at with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I'll ask myself the question I just has you, as far as like, I knew the team was going to be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: has been made my expectations and the answer to that is obviously it has but not in the way that I thought and I don't think in the way anybody thought I think our road to another playoff birth has come in a very unconventional way and that we've kind of had to piece together a lot of like the guys that have gone down like like for example, Blake's now in last moments like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had two guys in Xi'an and Roblesque who really stepped up and have really shown the team that they belong in the big leagues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we also got this other guy, Eric Lauer, from the BlueJay, who was cut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's kind of, he's stepped up and he's been like a fourth guy, a fourth star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we have a six-man rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's been the fourth starter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said he's also delivered pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad for him because he's going to be the first one in the cutting block once the is now comes back and last not comes back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, they're part of the breaks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just hope we don't burn out in the second half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's one of my worries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I've seen other teams, it has happened to other teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the way the Dodgers are handling this season is maybe even more impressive than last year, because I always compare this to watching, not I have two examples of watching possible three pizza.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Warriors

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[SPEAKER_01]: they won in 2017 and 2018 and then they were chasing 2019 and then Kevin Durant, tears as Achilles, Clay, Thompson, tears as ACL and then you're out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You lose two of your top three guys and there's no it's like it's Steph Curry against the world and the NBA finals against Toronto and then the other one, this was when I was younger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the 49ers win

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[SPEAKER_01]: in 89 and then they went again in 90 and then there, it looks like they're just going to cruise in win in 91 and then they play a team that decides to slow the game way down and so it makes it a really close game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Niners are about to win, kick a fill, go to win the game and they fumble at the last minute and then the Giants kick a fill go with like zero time left to go to the Super Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was like a heartbreaker for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my gosh, this game was right

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[SPEAKER_01]: base was a little different because of the series aspect of it, probably closer to the NBA, but in the NBA, one player being out can just demoralize your whole team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like we're talking about with the Dodgers, you guys have had the flexibility and the depth to where, okay, somebody's not there, well, we have a way to plug that hole.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They may not be as good, but they're going to be solid in in that place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we wait for that person come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Edwin Diaz has been gone for like the whole year,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and yet not to say that you haven't needed him, but it hasn't hurt you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that some teams that that that some people thought it would.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thankfully, what happened there is that tennis god found his family better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got found his man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was our original $72 million a year closer or $72 million for four years, not a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But uh, let's still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got lucky there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the guy he sees a humble guy and he

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yes, so that was one of them and now we have all these big guns coming back for the second half, you know, that's one of the things I don't like about Robert's better drills style as a fan as a budget fan I love it because it's you know, it means we're going to win, but as a baseball fan, he's fun a way to just keep these guys fresh for the second half and I think that's kind of that's a little bit that's cheating a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He finds this pattern of like all glass nails down for and then what a coincidence he comes back after the All-Star break and now the same thing and out deers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean they're legitimate injuries, but still, you know, I didn't like Blake's now, especially with his partner Yamamoto being right next to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't like Blake's now saying that he couldn't start his pitching program because he went deep into the season last year, you know, and it's like bro, you've got next to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you got you have a motor next to you and he's he's going to start all the games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't missed one start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and so I don't know that he gets to pitch in the all star game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I skipped it or he didn't play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't watch it at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I missed the entire all star game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I missed the home run derby, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I want to do watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a little bit of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me take a cyber word here and then run a little bit on you know what baseball reminds me of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It reminds me of like now I'm at that age.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where if I'm around teenagers, I feel like the old guy was trying to be cool, but he's not cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what MLB reminds me of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have all these old executives.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And every time they throw something on Netflix, it comes out as they're trying so hard to be relevant, you know, with a Pyro and they're trying, they're trying to be the NFL and the NBA, and they just can't, like you can't do it, like don't try, you know, just just stay true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing that baseball has that knowledge force has is that they have a legacy, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a history, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the most emotional baseball games I've ever been to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was opening day back in 2008.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what the Dodgers did is that they got the oldest players they could find, position players that ever wore a Dodger uniform.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And before the start of the game, they have them go out there and they introduced one by one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they all had throw a box with a little kid or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the gimmick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I remember, like, you know, Dodgers fans have a lot of gang members, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That they say does LA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember I was watching the stands and that you had a grown gang bangers crying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was like, oh, like, this is amazing to just seeing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what this one is to do better, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They need to promote their history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because baseball has a lot of romanticizing, you know, baseball's past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's something that they do better than the NFL and the NBA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What the NFL and the NBA do real well is that is that pop and circumstance, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are awesome at doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that rock and roll feel, the concert feel, baseball can do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they need to stop trying because it looks ridiculous on TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, speaking of romanticizing baseball, I just rewatch field of dreams the other day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I love that movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That, I mean, that movie, it tugs at you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have a relationship with baseball or the person who taught you baseball, like, yeah, that movie, that and Netflix has the field of dreams game this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's see if they

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the thing about what's interesting about and I was actually going to ask about the some glad that you brought it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, what do you think about the all of these streaming like not really knowing where the games are on sometimes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I know a couple of years ago,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you had to like you can watch every game through the the cable network through the Bay Area sports cable and except for the Apple games and so people are so mad because you were just locked out if you didn't have Apple TV and I've had Apple TV since day one so no big you for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now you got some games on peacock and you got some games on it will not really normal games on Netflix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know there's some Yankee games that are on Amazon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's like, I think in the NBA in the NFL, it's actually kind of worse than baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like when you don't even really know where these games are, how casually can you just turn on the TV and find them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you have to be very specific.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm not sure if that's great, but at the same time, you know, or baseball is really killing it is as a live sport in person, like the giants, the giants are

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[SPEAKER_01]: at their worst, as far as I'm probably going back 10 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't remember when's the last time they were this bad, but they're gonna do their best attendance since 2018 with this poor of a team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's kind of incredible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I don't, I probably will not go to a game this year just because I'm mad at the organization for different reasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we didn't even talk about the other debacle as we did it with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, we could talk about that, too, because I saw that you went to the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you even told me that Clayton Kursha had to apologize for wearing the hat with the Bible verse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's almost like why didn't the giants would have known that that happened?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like why wasn't there any

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, control in the organization to go, hey, this happened to Clayton Kursha.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to apologize, like why are we going to do this same thing a couple years later, knowing what the outcome was there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think this, I think it's been worse for the giants because they didn't actually apologize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: screw it like we're wearing this one and we don't care and this is it under the rug try to any and you know I don't know that there's actually any visible punishment that they'll get I saw I saw a lot of angry people like we voiced on our podcast on Thompson the Clark how frustrated we were as you know 50 year old dudes and

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, but really worthy where do you hit them you hit them in the pocketbook and that's why I'm not going to game this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, okay, not only does the team suck, but you're treating a very specific and engaged fan base like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out, but here's the thing I want to ask you about because you and I talked about this last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I saw that, you know, the whole White House thing and, you know, Dave Roberts is very political and very smart in the way that he handles things of this nature.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine there's some players who are not going to go to the White House, but he meant he's not going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He already announced it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he said, you know, we expect most of the players to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, uh, Kiki Hernandez because he's hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, I'm not going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, he's a con man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what he said, he, he's, yeah, he's a carney.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to tell why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they come onto it, though, the media and the fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he goes on one of the social medias, right, and somebody asked them, are you going to the wild and he goes, nope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then everybody was like, oh my god, that's also, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then somebody did some research.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't set it here to say himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I know, because he's in rehab.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's going through, he's rehabbing his, uh, uh, being ripped, he messed up his ripped picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then they pressed them again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the reason you're not going because of the rehab or because it was a choice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then now he's kind of scurrying the issue a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he's saying, well, you know, I'm going to be in rehab.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's something I don't even have to think about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Therefore, it's not a big thing to in some now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he kind of turned he a little bit to the local fans and the media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Mookie definitely said, no, like he's not going so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that's interesting, but you know, they eat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember I remember last year where Trump is like, ah,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Otani looks like a movie star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great things in the future for you, and I'm like, it's due to the most famous baseball player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're treating him like a young guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he was, well, what did my Tyson Cauchon, Michael's the husband coming young, I'm retired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, I'm tired, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you know, I mean, the, this has been,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think right you win the world series you go to the White House now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There have been a lot of basketball teams who have decided not to go like the warrior specifically said we're not going to go to the White House, but also it's because like you know Trump is sparring on Twitter with LeBron and with in calling Steph Curry out and calling Steve currout so it's like okay I get it, but I think the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: probably because baseball is a little bit more of a conservative sport and they would probably playing it right like I would prefer if these teams, you know, didn't really go in this kind of climate, but I get

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why they do because the Dodgers are the, you know, the class of the league right now and you don't want to all of a sudden not go and then, you know, these crazy radicals on the other side are tweeting about you and all of a sudden, you know, getting people to not watch it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just stupid stuff like that, but I, so I get it, but I can imagine that you as a fan you're a little bit in a and like a rock in a hard place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to celebrate that win, but you're like, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, here's how I see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of reflective of how I see my own views as far as placing judgment on people, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, to me, like, I have my own views on, on like the military, for example, which I'm not needed to hear, but certainly there's, I'm conflicted because of the laws that they anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: However, I respect the soldier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every person that has never worked for the military, I respect them because, right, there's, because they take courage to be in the military.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to pitch a life out there, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's encouraged that I don't have, you know, the same, because I won't write.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I cannot sit there and just talk shit about military because I wouldn't be writing it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These people, they have this thing that is bigger than me to be able to and list than what they gotta do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when it comes to the Dodgers going to the White House or any other team, we also have to understand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that a lot of Americans are loyal to the institution of the United States of America, not so much the president, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're paying tribute to the constitution, to just what America represents or wants to represent, these ideals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so to me, I'm okay with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because Robert was the one that kind of made me think about this, because he was like, my father was in the military.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he's got this cultural connection,

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[SPEAKER_00]: to like America and the government and whatnot and military.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I could see why he would want to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's a lot to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's not even taken from Donald Trump into consideration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of get that guy out of your head and still pay tribute to the representation of America, which is going to the White House.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I totally get that as there's no judgment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever, like I know a lot of my friends here, I don't know whatever, I mean, you can't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's very unfair to put somebody in that to pick them in, and all of a sudden, past judgment, all the why are they, you know, it's way more convoluted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not as black or white as we wish it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's kind of my feelings on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I even mean, like, honestly, if I was part of the doctor's team, like, it's be kind of cool to go to the White House.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's kind of cool, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Take the tour, and I'm sure you get a little perks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, you could see all the construction Trump is done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could see the indents of where the Octagon was when the UFC was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I saw the after effects of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks horrible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to pay for it, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a circus in of itself, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so let's, uh, some of the other things that I had for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I'd asked you what you thought by the way, but thankfully, I didn't watch that or the whole kind of fiasc because I'm not into that stuff anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I'm a hired gun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I get paid to watch it, but it's not, I mean, you know, at some point, I think I'm going to be so out on it that it might not be worth it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um, we talked about team MVP's and, and I also want to add,

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[SPEAKER_01]: favorite players because I think when we were kids, very easy to claim a guy as your favorite player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have mentioned to me that Darrell Strawberry and the Dodgers was your guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Boy, look at my guy throughout my youth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's end of Dodgers and the Giants and the Yankees.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My guy was Robby Thompson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He played second base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I played second base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wore number six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wore number six all the way up until I was older and yet as adults, I don't think we see favorite players in the same way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I couldn't tell you like today, like if I was to who's my favorite player on the giant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm like, this is a good question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I know there have been players in the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Barry Bonds, you know, I just had to watch every single lap bat from that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim Lensikum, who was, you know, just on the field, you just had to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for instance, like Buster Posey, never my guy, just at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: not colorful at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just never really said anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was a great team leader and you kind of go, okay, if Buster says, then this team is going to go and they're going to do well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But from the perspective of like, what does he do that makes me like him or makes me want to follow him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't really much for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was like bonds, Lensacom, a little bit of mad bum until he

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[SPEAKER_01]: But those, those are kind of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, in my adulthood, like there's not really one guy that I've latched onto and then you think about all these younger players, I always told my my sons when I was when they were growing up, I was like, it's really hard for me to buy a jersey of someone who's younger than me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, if you wanted to like, I have a Jerry Rice jersey on the 49ers, but I couldn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: a Christian McAfrey jersey because I'm like twice that dude's a not not quite but you know I'm like I thought that's you know I can't he was not my childhood favorite so I kind of lean towards that kind of stuff Like if I was to buy a jersey I would buy a jersey of someone who is my favorite when I was a kid But like how do you deal with like that aspect of favorite players and all that stuff?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a couple of things, first of all, I think I share my, because I share this rule with everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't buy any of yours as another man's face on it, whether it's wrestling, baseball, or another person's last name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I get a jersey, it tends to be up and I'm jersey or I'll put my last name on it, which is, I've been doing that since forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never liked buying it, it's just weird, just the way I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also, yeah, like you said, when we were kids,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We kind of related to the charisma of the player, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, like, for example, with the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because I grew up with the Giants too, because we played them so many times, and they were in KTLA, and remember, back then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They wouldn't tell them by his home games because they wanted you to go to the games So every home game was black-toff and it's here locally in LA because they wanted you to go to the bottom stadium So all we got was the aim to roll games on on KTL in China 11 So I saw the Giants a lot and to me at that time The two guys that I I really like were a walley joiner and and we'll clark Those were those were my guys, you know just because they had this charisma

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brian Harvey from the Angels was another one that really I made it with me just because he was like the stuff biker remember he had this he was a closer and he just read like no nonsense and he was throwing like heaters, heaters and also so the charisma aspect as the young boy because you're looking for the identity right right now later on in my life as I develop mentally and and all that stuff I'm looking more at for character as my third player it's like up like

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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, like somebody like a Freddie Freeman, which I texted you earlier, Freddie Freeman's the guy that has so much humility, you know, and then we know his story, like like he's the guy that lost his mom to cancer when he was 10 years old, and he wears those long sleeves as a tribute to her, no matter the weather, he's always wearing the blue sleeves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wonderful with the media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Always there to answer very humble when he makes mistakes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's very hard on himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the guy that has true character.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because I kind of pride myself in trying to have a person that has good character values and all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's who my, that's who I connect to as far as favorite players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's no longer about the charisma and, you know, it's more about just who are you, who are you the same person on the field as you are off the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's who I connect to as my third player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, right now Fried Freeman is somebody that I really admire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I wouldn't buy a jersey with his name on it, but I definitely admire him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, Tani, he's, I don't know, sometimes he comes out performative to me, which is kind of a little bit of a turnoff, like, but he, but I can't really imagine the kind of pressure the dude is under, too, you know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I respect that, like, yeah, you're performative, but also you have to second guess every single move you make.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you say high, too, like a pretty girl, imagine that headlines the next day, especially because he just had a kid, like, you can't do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I would say free free business, a guy that I connected to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The last guy that I connected as far as just having the charisma, the cool factor, will probably be a dream belt train, wait back in like 30, 2000s, taking the exact wings off of his knee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, he was a great ball player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he didn't lie about his age, but that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when he, when he was a leg boy after having that 47 homeries in back in North 4, and that ownership didn't resign him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and he went on to have a whole thing career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we could have used them, uh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, God, who was a guy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a guy that looked like Edge and I'm coping to the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he went on to the, the Washington, um, fire brigade his name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he was another guy that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the cool factor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of how to answer your question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That that's kind of how I connect with

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think I lean a little bit more towards like who the spokesperson is and if I really believe that, you know, their team leaders and that they say the right things and that they're good with the media and they're good with, you know, reaching out to the fan base and such, because as you get older, those are the things that you care about more is how this team really affects your community and where you live and, you know, how the city and all those things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's he's looks like your everyone's next or neighbor right he looks like I like that guy a lot I've told you that because that's another guy that that comes up as very humble I've seen him he yet he had that in that podcast with mookie beds and it was just too guys during the shit very humble guy You know, yeah, no, that's another guy that I wish I wish he would somehow end the boy in the part of your uniform in next two three years

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like Jesse Pleman's, uh, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it depends in whatever of Jesse Pleman's, you know, and the bigger body error, the smaller, you know, the same bad dayman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's your six degrees right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, and then there's other guys who come in and uh, someone like Jung Hu Lee who he did not have a good season in his rookie season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I heard and you could tell that there was a transition in him changing his game to a more major league style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't going to be able to get away with the same things that he did when he played in Korea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he has made a lot of those adjustments

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[SPEAKER_01]: Top 10 and Major League batting average and defensively he's still not fantastic, but like there are things where you're like, oh, like again you talk about that pressure he doesn't have the autonomy pressure, but he still has the pressure of crossing over and he's got like a giant fan base as well, but he was not playing well and he has played a lot better, but then

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's almost played himself to be where, I don't know, there seems to might be sniffing around thinking that he may be a good player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see them keep him because I think for the community, and someone, if you are an Asian American in the US, like, you're like, oh, there's an Asian playing baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that stuff is really cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, for just for, you know, for that and I think he's he's he's he I think he can even get a little bit better too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would like to them keep him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, who knows baseball's a business, which is also kind of leans, leans to why maybe it's harder for teams to latch or younger kids to latch on to your favorite player of your team, unless you like Mike Trout, who's played his entire career for the angels like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't imagine he will, and then that will be the only thing, but I feel bad for that guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's going to be the greatest player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's ever heard of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a thing he's playing with the angels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But going back to your question, I do have like a theory as far as how the streaming done affect the future and the culture based on we've already seen it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, like I told you earlier, when I was growing up as a kid, we were, we had baseball on television all the time, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we got to see the Dodgers and I got to see other fairs from other teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And...

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[SPEAKER_00]: It became a point in television in a way to where you knew where the game was, you knew where your dad was, your uncle, your friends, and you just commented and watched the game, it was cheap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was on regular television.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think it was an antenna and you were good to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so what that does is that again, it's all about inspiring the next generation, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see these little kids, everyone knows the kid, what is the first thing that you want to do after you watch a game?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to go outside and play baseball, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially it feels like like a Sunday day game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so that inspires the brain and high school and in college and so on and so on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nowadays, and this is a cultural shift, whether it's movies, music, sports,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's no longer about an individual player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's about the brand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People like Major League Baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't like the Yankees and it's about Major League Baseball, you know, same thing with music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People like the artists.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody likes, like, more than talk to any talk to any kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's your favorite album of the last two years?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't even know what that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because on Spotify, you just hit the song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know me and you we came up in a narrow where you had to buy albums you know compete out and so and so we grow with this idea like well I remember that album that or I mean we probably still buy albums I do I still have my vinyl collection but I was asking my nieces like what's your favorite album of so and so and they're like well we don't I if I want to listen to a song I just play the song like why would I have to listen to a whole album yeah yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they probably can't tell like if you're Taylor Swift fan, maybe you know what album this specific song is on, but it wouldn't be the same way that we would have known like all the cuts on a specific album.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you notice how that's influencing the next generation and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now, again, you don't see young kids with heroes anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see young kids with favorite teams or maybe even like a favorite league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you don't see like like the Bryce Harper fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you maybe old Tony, he might be the ally in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, it's hard to create he was now even in movies, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Movies is it's all about marble, it's all about DC, it's all about the big IT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody watches movies, Anthony Mackie was the one that said he's like, I'm not a movie star, I just get paid to put on the Captain America suit and that's what makes the money, you know, but I'm in a changeable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he said he's right, there is no more movie stars in the movie business anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you start to see that and the reason why that is is because everything gets muddled up now, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to buy this service, you have to buy that service, you have to buy this service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So kids are now trained to go on TikTok or YouTube and get the little bite size information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's hard for them to grow attached emotionally to anything now because they're just getting the quick news and then they move on to the next game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When's the last time you started and finished an actual book?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I've been reading in Facebooks that you sent me, but those are reference books.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you weren't all said, no, you're, you kind of got me with this book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I wasn't even, I wasn't even trying to take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been a minute, it's been a minute, but like, in some ways,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love the aspect that I can have this thing called the Kindle app on my phone, because at any desire, I can go, oh someone's talking about this book, let me download it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that doesn't mean that I'm going to read the whole thing because I may get excited and I may read the first 20 percent and then I will have to read something else and like I'm reading, I'm actually reading

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm at the the first 20% of four books right now like and when I do you know the only time that I actually get through these books is when I go on like a plane ride because then I'm stuck and I'm like okay I'm for I want to finish this book on this plane trip knowing that I got three hours to kill and I can't do anything I mean I could watch a movie but like this is going to be like a focus time like I'm reading this book

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[SPEAKER_01]: on, uh, you know this book on Spielberg and George Lucas and, um, uh, who's the other director?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Francis Ford, uh, Coppola.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there's also, there's also, yeah, he's in there and score say he's in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was the new Hollywood guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, whatever, yeah, that book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really, I'm reading that book and I was really getting into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm reading the old William Goldman book that he wrote for in like the 70s about, you know, screenwriting and Hollywood and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm reading a book on Clive Davis his biography because he just passed away and I do a music podcast and I want to do an episode on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm reading like all these different books, but I just never get to the end of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless I go, oh my gosh, I have two weeks to finish this thing and I need to read this book in that time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, but EC writers, rating bulls, whatever, whatever is that thing with that book with the, the records you just mentioned, I think that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could I can find the name, I can find the name of it, but uh, second, I want to read it to if I haven't read it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just like the idea of what you said is like everything is is in bites is in bit pieces of information and you know instead of maybe watching a two and a half hour documentary or maybe who's the guy who did the that long baseball documentary Ken Burns.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can set up watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, my favorite spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a, you know, is a, is a 18 year old going to watch all 10 innings of Ken Burns.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they going to go on YouTube and watch like five minutes bits of history by going down the rabbit hole in that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably the YouTube way, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think, what do you think?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because there's also another part of YouTube that's very successful with that super mega long like format where they have like the four-hour podcast, like five-hour podcast and they're talking to different people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It depends on the niche that but every niche has these four-hour podcast guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wonder who's that tailor for because

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was talking to Danny about it, he's like, what the strategy there is that a lot of people are watching it on their TV now, like people are watching YouTube on their big TV and they haven't created an app that allows you to skip commercials on TV and that doesn't exist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the idea here is that you're watching a four hour podcast and you're getting the commercials in between and that's what the money's coming from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like Andrew Huberman you know like all these guys the like all these health guys they go on podcast and they talk about all this stuff and that's what I like I find that super interesting or even like a lot of the wrestling guys like Jeff Jarrett has those three hour podcast with Conrad you know all these guys have those super long podcast and I'm like damn that's a lot of content

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and we are moving away from a lot of more people, a lot more people are working from home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't have a commute, which is where I would get a lot of my listening, is in that hour commute that I would have, which it doesn't exist for me anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now I've got to find different ways to listen to the stuff where I just cut it all out and just go, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't listen to 10 podcasts anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to listen to five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still got to get my rewatchables and big pick in, but maybe the other long-form podcasts I was listening to, I can't listen to it anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, the book I was talking about is called the last Kings of Hollywood Copa La Lucas Spielberg.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I haven't read that one, but it sounds interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm wondering what it's really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're intertwining kind of all of their lives at the same time when they're in the same place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm right at the place of where Lucas is finally doing a new hope at that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a little teaser for another show that we might do one day, but there was what happened was that there was a movie called Heavenscape.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That completely killed New Hollywood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and and studios took their power back because that was a complete disaster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We should talk about that in your movie podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an interesting subject, but yeah, so that's what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are people wondering what happened with New Hollywood, what happened with that's why, because Heavenscape complete bankrupted an entire studio and studio executors got scared and then it took the power back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's get to the end of this baseball thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The other thing, I had two more subjects that I kind of wanted to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you all, your team went from

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[SPEAKER_01]: do we need to go after school or are we just going to wait until glass now and snail come back and just slow let those guys come back at their own turn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All those just to be as like like he's out there right like he's the guy but then you look at you know you look at the tigers and they you know they they've kind of fallen off right they they're now 44 and and 52 I think they expected to be a

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be out there for the highest bidder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you guys get him or do you let somebody else get him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, if it's just a seven game series and he throws two times and a sit in there in the bullpen for game seven, like that's something that you could actually, you know, that could be against you guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, here's how we have to think about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so you want to, so we want him for the, just for that last few pages of the race and just take us home this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: or do we want to invest in him long-term and just wait for him to go on the market next year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's what that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we wait for him to go on the market at the end of the season, we don't have to give up half the farm system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because remember, the tigers are not going to come up for nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to want some prospects, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this all started out that Roblesky, he's, they're going to want him, especially I know it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because a lot of people have been looking at him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, if I'm in to freedmen, I'm thinking is he going to benefit us for the two months, there's two months, August the 10th or October, whatever, three months.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do we have the horses to get us through?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we go after him when he's a free agent of the other season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we save our farm system.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do we give up a little bit of our farm system and help solidify the creepy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because once you get him in the rotation, good luck to anybody, especially with the other guns that we have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So those are the decisions that he's going to have to make.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again,

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[SPEAKER_00]: ran into him for two months and then he's back on the open market.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's another one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say we ran him for a couple months and he does great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has a great second half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets us to the rain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be even more expensive to do that, you know, the season that then had he just become a free agent with the tigers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we might not even be able to keep on that point, especially with whatever comes out of this lock out and they do their live, whatever is going to come out of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's the other thing is you don't know the with the lock out if we're losing games next year or what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so if it was me, I wouldn't go after him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be too expensive for the farm system or for current players, however, the young players are in the main roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would wait for him to hit the market next year and make the bid from then, so he could kind of be the next generation of guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you want to inform a role, no, you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, at this point, you're looking at, okay, who is kind of on our tail and this will end the show with this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like, I look at the brewers and my heart wants to say the brewers are gonna be the team to take down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only, the only miss that we respect is in that team.

01:00:03.252 --> 01:00:23.363
[SPEAKER_01]: They have an ace and they are just such a well put together team, but the thing that I just don't believe in them because I've never seen them do it, right, that they are they like to be the little engine that could and I want to see them be the big dog and I don't know if they're comfortable being the big dog and the so that which is why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I look at the braves and I kind of wonder because the braves have done it in recent memory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder if the braves are really the team that you all need to be worried about most.

01:00:35.548 --> 01:00:46.670
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I'm not, I don't really believe in the Yankees, but the Yankees are the, if we're talking run differential, they are the best team in the American League because they're still a plus 91 in run in run differential.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The braves are a plus 92.

01:00:49.431 --> 01:00:56.615
[SPEAKER_01]: The the brewers are a plus one twenty six the Dodgers are plus one forty nine and those are the marlins they kind of snuck up on everyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they don't have the horses though.

01:00:59.817 --> 01:01:02.038
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you always worry about a team like that.

01:01:02.839 --> 01:01:04.440
[SPEAKER_01]: Are they really going to buy at the deadline?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I doubt it right are they going to try and improve.

01:01:07.561 --> 01:01:10.943
[SPEAKER_01]: They're just going to just run it out there and go, oh, we've already beat expectations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're in the money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:01:13.965 --> 01:01:16.747
[SPEAKER_01]: So that yeah, that like yeah, I know you mentioned the fillies.

01:01:17.977 --> 01:01:19.438
[SPEAKER_00]: Not this year though, not this year.

01:01:20.119 --> 01:01:21.520
[SPEAKER_01]: That was you.

01:01:21.620 --> 01:01:38.492
[SPEAKER_01]: You, well, they're actually playing half-decent baseball again after a terrible start and they got their manager fired, but if I'm, am I going to bet money that a Dawn Maddingley led team is going to make the right decisions in latent games?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Bruce Boachie, well, he's never happened before, so.

01:01:42.174 --> 01:01:46.618
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Bruce Boachie, when he looked on the other in the other dugout and he was like Maddingley's there.

01:01:47.819 --> 01:01:52.041
[SPEAKER_01]: They they have more talent than us, but I'm about to pants this guy on television.

01:01:52.061 --> 01:01:52.961
[SPEAKER_01]: That's how it's right.

01:01:52.981 --> 01:01:53.802
[SPEAKER_01]: We felt about him.

01:01:54.082 --> 01:01:58.323
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the flaw with the flaw with the with the Phillies thing.

01:01:58.343 --> 01:02:02.185
[SPEAKER_01]: But is there a team like, you know, three in a row.

01:02:02.285 --> 01:02:03.406
[SPEAKER_01]: I like I said, it's really hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Yankees were the last team to do it, right?

01:02:06.387 --> 01:02:07.407
[SPEAKER_01]: In the early 2000s.

01:02:07.427 --> 01:02:08.208
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, 98 99 2000.

01:02:10.132 --> 01:02:13.214
[SPEAKER_01]: And things had to fall correctly for them.

01:02:13.574 --> 01:02:22.419
[SPEAKER_01]: I think maybe some fans think that something's fell correctly for you guys last year, which was an excellent story with you with that shit.

01:02:22.499 --> 01:02:25.101
[SPEAKER_01]: Close series, you know, close playoffs.

01:02:25.701 --> 01:02:28.863
[SPEAKER_01]: But this year, it just seems like everything is kind of falling in place.

01:02:28.883 --> 01:02:35.327
[SPEAKER_01]: And it's almost to the extent of like where someone needs to go on a run for me to even believe in them.

01:02:36.287 --> 01:02:47.541
[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I said the brave's just because I know that they have a little bit of the pedigree organizationally and some of those players who were on that team, but I do, I really believe what I bet money on the break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I would say Dodgers against the world at this point.

01:02:52.913 --> 01:02:57.816
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, this is possibly the most streamlined dominance that I've seen from the daughters.

01:02:58.036 --> 01:03:08.383
[SPEAKER_00]: I know that we have this reputation, we've been dominated for years now, but this is the most streamlined and controlled I've seen the team just in and they are getting those victories, getting those victories.

01:03:08.763 --> 01:03:10.304
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe we're probably like, what is it?

01:03:10.324 --> 01:03:18.229
[SPEAKER_00]: We're something like seven or eight games above the next team and baseball, I think the brave are like 54 from something like that.

01:03:18.549 --> 01:03:20.150
[SPEAKER_00]: But we aren't coming off the losing streak.

01:03:20.171 --> 01:03:21.992
[SPEAKER_00]: We got to let by the D-backs before the break.

01:03:23.273 --> 01:03:26.675
[SPEAKER_01]: And they kind of snuck in to second place there in the National League.

01:03:26.695 --> 01:03:28.437
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's 11 games out of those.

01:03:28.457 --> 01:03:28.977
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're good.

01:03:28.997 --> 01:03:30.158
[SPEAKER_00]: We were arriving at some.

01:03:31.179 --> 01:03:33.101
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they got work to do if they want to.

01:03:33.121 --> 01:03:34.222
[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing about Roberts.

01:03:34.242 --> 01:03:35.503
[SPEAKER_00]: He also likes to fun games.

01:03:35.843 --> 01:03:40.527
[SPEAKER_00]: He loves to pump those games in order just to have the team for the next series or whatever.

01:03:41.007 --> 01:03:42.308
[SPEAKER_00]: And right now we got room to spare.

01:03:42.328 --> 01:03:43.009
[SPEAKER_00]: Thank God.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So answer your question.

01:03:47.148 --> 01:03:53.833
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, we kind of a little brother the borer's last year and this is essentially the same team with another year of experience.

01:03:53.853 --> 01:03:55.514
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not really too concerned about them.

01:03:55.834 --> 01:03:56.595
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the same thing.

01:03:56.615 --> 01:04:03.700
[SPEAKER_00]: Last year they came out of, they had the best record in baseball and swept them pretty much.

01:04:03.820 --> 01:04:05.941
[SPEAKER_00]: And then the braids you're correct.

01:04:05.961 --> 01:04:10.544
[SPEAKER_00]: The braids are the ones that are kind of sneaky and they're a good team.

01:04:10.604 --> 01:04:14.387
[SPEAKER_00]: And those are the, if I had to say any team clinic concern is going to be the braids.

01:04:16.148 --> 01:04:18.509
[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's hurt.

01:04:18.569 --> 01:04:20.610
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's hurt every other day.

01:04:20.650 --> 01:04:24.052
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like yeah, but they have other horses.

01:04:24.372 --> 01:04:24.973
[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing.

01:04:25.313 --> 01:04:38.460
[SPEAKER_00]: So they just don't need him and then as far as the dark horse, maybe we get to the point like the white socks are playing really well, you know, and they have that momentum.

01:04:39.916 --> 01:04:42.357
[SPEAKER_01]: The White Talks are currently in first place.

01:04:43.098 --> 01:04:46.659
[SPEAKER_01]: They are a great home team, not a good road team right now.

01:04:46.719 --> 01:05:03.167
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're a plus 35, so you know, they're not, it's not like a fake, a fake, you know, team like I would say, you know, the fillies are kind of fake in a way that they still, their nine games, or 11 games over 500, and they have a negative run differential.

01:05:03.387 --> 01:05:05.408
[SPEAKER_01]: You say, you know, the same with like,

01:05:06.920 --> 01:05:33.477
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the marlins are a plus 24 a little bit better, but I just I just don't believe in any of these teams because they haven't done it recently and they don't show like their their organizations don't show a willingness to go at it though I believe that the braves would would go for it, you know, yeah, I'm well, and we're also going to have to see who's going to be buyers and who's going to be sellers here, I mean, I've soon so again the braze my school's up there their team and.

01:05:33.977 --> 01:05:39.604
[SPEAKER_00]: you know, they essentially want a championship about four or five years ago, literally by running half of their team.

01:05:41.286 --> 01:05:50.517
[SPEAKER_01]: So we know they'll do that if they have to, but I know that that third wild card in the national league, there's like six or seven teams that probably think they still have a shot.

01:05:50.577 --> 01:05:52.759
[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the the Padres GM was like,

01:05:53.420 --> 01:05:54.960
[SPEAKER_01]: We're playing 500 baseball.

01:05:55.361 --> 01:05:56.341
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to go for it.

01:05:56.361 --> 01:05:57.321
[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be buyers.

01:05:57.701 --> 01:06:00.242
[SPEAKER_01]: And like if you look at it, you're like, why?

01:06:00.302 --> 01:06:02.463
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, there's no way you guys can beat the Dodgers.

01:06:02.703 --> 01:06:10.945
[SPEAKER_01]: But to his fan base, if they make the playoffs, if they get to that third wildcard, they could say, you know, we're a playoff team.

01:06:10.985 --> 01:06:13.006
[SPEAKER_01]: And they're not that far from that third wildcard.

01:06:13.026 --> 01:06:19.688
[SPEAKER_01]: I think 50 wins or something like that is where that third wildcard sits and the podgers are like 48 and 48.

01:06:19.748 --> 01:06:20.788
[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess that's yeah.

01:06:20.968 --> 01:06:34.425
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so right now like you said it's hard and I know it sounds like we have an embarrassment of riches and we have a lot of wins that are given us that reading room, but it's it's we'll see I mean we've seen disasters happen before you know, um,

01:06:35.607 --> 01:06:37.108
[SPEAKER_00]: right now is one is one day at a time.

01:06:37.788 --> 01:06:41.231
[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm excited for the second half.

01:06:41.471 --> 01:06:44.913
[SPEAKER_00]: Otan is production value has been lower than usual.

01:06:44.933 --> 01:06:48.555
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think he's behind on the patience of that.

01:06:49.235 --> 01:06:51.116
[SPEAKER_00]: But the guys in the amazing picture though.

01:06:51.137 --> 01:06:53.898
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the reason he said he wanted to say, I don't think he's going to get to sign young.

01:06:53.918 --> 01:06:57.420
[SPEAKER_00]: Unfortunately, I think the last couple of starts, he's been a little rocky.

01:06:57.680 --> 01:07:00.562
[SPEAKER_00]: And he has a bumme, actually, you got to drain over the

01:07:02.083 --> 01:07:04.024
[SPEAKER_00]: So, so we'll see where he stands.

01:07:04.644 --> 01:07:07.506
[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, I'm looking forward to just everybody coming back healthy.

01:07:07.726 --> 01:07:12.008
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're going to have the glass nuns now on the way back and when Diaz is on his way back.

01:07:12.408 --> 01:07:15.970
[SPEAKER_00]: But then again, every time that happens, a couple of guys go out and you guys go out, you know?

01:07:15.990 --> 01:07:16.230
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:07:17.070 --> 01:07:20.332
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm also very, very, very happy because again with Mookie.

01:07:21.072 --> 01:07:31.137
[SPEAKER_00]: He started with here those rumblings, it's the ageing now, the ageing now, he's got seven years left with us, and this year he's like, fuck you guys, hold my, hold my beard, you know, and he's been amazing.

01:07:31.477 --> 01:07:40.241
[SPEAKER_00]: Not the greatest, not trying to look, look, keep, but, you know, he's making contact, he's gained on base, and, and again, the consistency of Freddie Freeman, man, that is amazing.

01:07:40.261 --> 01:07:47.685
[SPEAKER_00]: I was, I was at five minutes with Freddie Freeman, and I could tell him everything, you know, he's been such a, such a great ambassador for the team.

01:07:48.625 --> 01:07:51.606
[SPEAKER_00]: But he's a guy that goes out there and he just gets some bass.

01:07:51.726 --> 01:07:56.128
[SPEAKER_00]: He just gets some bass, you know, whether it's with a single or he takes walks.

01:07:57.029 --> 01:08:03.471
[SPEAKER_00]: He does the power, but the payment picked up again, and hearing this towards this towards the end of this or the first half.

01:08:03.771 --> 01:08:07.813
[SPEAKER_00]: Just very consistent consistency, consistency with that guy, and I love them.

01:08:07.973 --> 01:08:12.035
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I want him to get, he's on the road to what is it 3000 hits.

01:08:12.675 --> 01:08:16.657
[SPEAKER_00]: So, he'll punch his ticket to the Hall of Fame if he gets those 3000 hits.

01:08:18.299 --> 01:08:32.576
[SPEAKER_01]: I think for the giants kind of where this season is going, I think fans are, the fans are in love with kind of their their farm system because they have like a lot of these young projects and the international signings is a little bit of a

01:08:33.934 --> 01:08:43.836
[SPEAKER_01]: there's some there's some stuff going on there where you can sign a kid when he's like 15 years old or you can like promise to sign somebody when they're that young, you know, and that's weird.

01:08:43.876 --> 01:08:46.097
[SPEAKER_01]: That stuff is kind of, it's kind of sketchy.

01:08:46.117 --> 01:08:52.118
[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I don't like that part of it, but they've they've been able to get these like the top international players of the last couple years.

01:08:52.458 --> 01:08:53.218
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's helped.

01:08:53.278 --> 01:08:55.299
[SPEAKER_01]: They had the high they had a high draft pick this year.

01:08:55.319 --> 01:08:55.879
[SPEAKER_01]: So that's helped.

01:08:55.899 --> 01:08:56.839
[SPEAKER_01]: So I think people are like

01:08:57.479 --> 01:08:59.823
[SPEAKER_01]: waiting for some of these kit, but they're so early.

01:08:59.863 --> 01:09:11.640
[SPEAKER_01]: Like their farm system has a lot of guys who are really, really young and we will not, we won't see them play for like three years, but that's kind of what the giants are waiting for and and the hope is that.

01:09:12.381 --> 01:09:32.299
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they could get closer to a 500 team again for when those kids come up and it could be, you know, you can then create some depth, but I don't know, I just I think personally my faith in this Buster Posey lead organization is is a little tough because you know, I do have access to.

01:09:33.180 --> 01:09:48.190
[SPEAKER_01]: guys who are on that analytical side because I have a I have a buddy who actually is a wrestling fan too he he he he he found me because because of the stuff I was doing with with Meltzer, but so I bring him on my my show every once in a while.

01:09:49.290 --> 01:09:56.235
[SPEAKER_01]: And we talk about like how does the analytical community judge these giants decisions are he's like.

01:09:57.646 --> 01:10:03.250
[SPEAKER_01]: The giants are actually doing things, you know, like teams would do years and years ago, not like things are doing now.

01:10:03.570 --> 01:10:21.061
[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's an interesting zag, but if it doesn't work, then when you redo this thing again, you probably lean a little closer to the Farhan Zahidi method, who's now like in the Lakers organization, because the Lakers and the Dodgers are all owned by the same people now.

01:10:21.181 --> 01:10:24.503
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's kind of crazy.

01:10:25.163 --> 01:10:33.287
[SPEAKER_00]: One thing I was saying, I'm going to prop the daughters here because they did maybe announcement that they did sell all their stock to the Ice Detention Centers.

01:10:34.507 --> 01:10:37.549
[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say anyway, but I'm taking their word for it.

01:10:37.769 --> 01:10:42.271
[SPEAKER_00]: And they did donate a lot of money to like, you know, certain organization that helps.

01:10:42.491 --> 01:10:45.793
[SPEAKER_00]: immigrants with lawyers and whatnot, that's been verified.

01:10:46.153 --> 01:10:52.016
[SPEAKER_00]: So they're trying, you know, they're trying to get in good standing with the city because they did affect them a lot.

01:10:52.937 --> 01:10:55.358
[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, they got all these different contracts.

01:10:55.378 --> 01:10:59.501
[SPEAKER_00]: They got to make money somehow, so yeah, for sure.

01:11:00.361 --> 01:11:08.206
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the thing, the thing about it is like, and I don't know if this has like when I was younger, I don't think I thought

01:11:09.087 --> 01:11:16.231
[SPEAKER_01]: about where my favorite team is investing their money or where what things in the community they're leaning towards.

01:11:16.291 --> 01:11:24.516
[SPEAKER_01]: I was just, I just cared about watching the game and what who the players were, I didn't really care about who they were or why they played or if they were jerks or not.

01:11:25.176 --> 01:11:34.642
[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, as we get older, like a lot of the stuff matters more because of who we see as ourselves in the community, you know, and the people that we kind of

01:11:35.723 --> 01:11:48.880
[SPEAKER_01]: with that, we kind of lean towards and so it is interesting, you know, thinking of how you fall in love with baseball when you're a kid and then now you're an adult and you're still a fan, but you think of so many different things that you then you did when you were a kid.

01:11:49.524 --> 01:11:49.884
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:11:49.944 --> 01:11:50.405
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:11:50.505 --> 01:11:53.727
[SPEAKER_00]: And there's a lot more cynicism as a fan nowadays.

01:11:53.827 --> 01:12:01.712
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and, but I think I think the nostalgia and the passion kind of carries me through a lot of this, like, I still get excited.

01:12:01.772 --> 01:12:02.593
[SPEAKER_00]: I still get upset.

01:12:02.653 --> 01:12:03.573
[SPEAKER_00]: I still get chills.

01:12:03.613 --> 01:12:05.454
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's still, it's still magical sports me.

01:12:05.655 --> 01:12:06.475
[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I still live.

01:12:06.655 --> 01:12:16.341
[SPEAKER_01]: When you get to the playoffs, I used to say when the warrior, like, when the warriors were on that, they were in, like, all the way to the end, like five seasons in a row.

01:12:17.382 --> 01:12:22.043
[SPEAKER_01]: And like, there's so much intensity and you're like, okay, they're in the playoffs.

01:12:22.383 --> 01:12:31.166
[SPEAKER_01]: Here's my next two months, every other night, just living and dying with this team, because you still desperately want to win.

01:12:31.186 --> 01:12:33.326
[SPEAKER_01]: That's what the playoffs are like for baseball too.

01:12:33.346 --> 01:12:36.767
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you're just like, oh my god, like, why does every pitch matter?

01:12:36.807 --> 01:12:38.048
[SPEAKER_01]: Why do I care so much?

01:12:38.588 --> 01:12:40.909
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and that's just playoffs.

01:12:40.969 --> 01:12:45.310
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's still, you know, savor it because when it's not there,

01:12:46.230 --> 01:13:03.352
[SPEAKER_01]: Then you're like, I don't even care as much like I don't live and die with that stuff because your team hires Tony Vatelo and he's telling you the town to the media and stuff so yeah, so yeah, but one last thing yeah you were saying earlier about the difference between a kid and being in the dog.

01:13:03.732 --> 01:13:09.014
[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, one of the science and maturity is this idea that you understand, there's a whole world outside of yourself, right?

01:13:09.034 --> 01:13:12.035
[SPEAKER_00]: That's our frontal lobe when it develops, it starts to understand.

01:13:12.375 --> 01:13:17.896
[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, the world doesn't center around me, there's other things going on independent of myself, right?

01:13:18.017 --> 01:13:22.018
[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's why when we become adults, especially mature adults,

01:13:22.858 --> 01:13:25.561
[SPEAKER_00]: with an understanding of a world outside of ourselves.

01:13:25.601 --> 01:13:27.402
[SPEAKER_00]: We see all that in justice and stuff.

01:13:27.683 --> 01:13:32.647
[SPEAKER_00]: And we see all these billionaires that are investing in things and like why am I supporting that?

01:13:33.088 --> 01:13:36.671
[SPEAKER_00]: Even even I do not see myself being out of the trends sometimes.

01:13:36.711 --> 01:13:42.577
[SPEAKER_00]: If I'm in a trend and I'm celebrating with the Dodgers, sometimes I'll snap out and be like, these are a millionaires.

01:13:44.719 --> 01:13:45.920
[SPEAKER_00]: they're acting like children, right?

01:13:45.940 --> 01:13:50.083
[SPEAKER_00]: You know when they do a celebration with the bottles and everything in the years.

01:13:50.343 --> 01:13:52.365
[SPEAKER_00]: And they have their shirt off in the goggles.

01:13:52.965 --> 01:13:54.326
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, they're millionaires.

01:13:54.686 --> 01:13:55.007
[SPEAKER_00]: Why?

01:13:55.127 --> 01:13:57.869
[SPEAKER_00]: And then I kind of start to just get it back into the trash.

01:13:57.889 --> 01:13:58.469
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:13:58.669 --> 01:13:59.130
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:13:59.250 --> 01:14:00.971
[SPEAKER_00]: It's fucking stupid.

01:14:00.991 --> 01:14:01.672
[SPEAKER_00]: Like what the fuck?

01:14:02.472 --> 01:14:19.654
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but yeah, so I also try to think about the connection, the cultural connection that that sports teams have with the with the with the city, you know, a certain ethnicities, even like the world cup, I mean we've seen the world cup, who wouldn't like I knew was big, but this year oh my god, you know,

01:14:20.548 --> 01:14:32.292
[SPEAKER_01]: I went I went to a hangout in the city with my I'm not even I'm not a soccer fan I don't even really note I mean I can watch the sport and be somewhat knowledgeable about it But I got don't follow it.

01:14:33.013 --> 01:14:39.435
[SPEAKER_01]: I went to go watch Mexico in England, and you know that was fun That was insane here in LA you could just imagine

01:14:39.735 --> 01:14:46.245
[SPEAKER_01]: rooting for Mexico and, you know, at the end, you know, they came short, but you kind of watching you go, okay, I understand why they lost.

01:14:46.265 --> 01:14:55.819
[SPEAKER_01]: I understand why England was the better team, but yeah, the world cup is a different level because, you know, when you get into the nationalism, there's a nationality, yeah, of it.

01:14:55.979 --> 01:14:59.061
[SPEAKER_00]: It was because there was a lot of making in LA.

01:14:59.201 --> 01:15:01.623
[SPEAKER_00]: We have a huge Mexican community.

01:15:02.143 --> 01:15:05.205
[SPEAKER_00]: And we have a lot of Mexican Americans, like myself, right?

01:15:05.525 --> 01:15:09.667
[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a lot of jokes of like once Mexico was eliminated, I'll take the jersey.

01:15:09.687 --> 01:15:12.109
[SPEAKER_00]: Now we're in a USA jersey.

01:15:12.409 --> 01:15:18.373
[SPEAKER_01]: And then the very next day, the very next day, Team USA looks so bad against Belgium.

01:15:18.433 --> 01:15:21.235
[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, oh my gosh, these teams are not in the same level.

01:15:21.475 --> 01:15:21.835
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:15:21.915 --> 01:15:23.036
[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways,

01:15:23.910 --> 01:15:24.570
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, man.

01:15:24.670 --> 01:15:29.772
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, uh, this was a good check in and we'll check in again after the season's over.

01:15:29.792 --> 01:15:32.513
[SPEAKER_01]: And then who knows what's going to happen in the off season.

01:15:32.533 --> 01:15:37.875
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, perhaps a check in, but we may not have a test check and what was the playoffs are about to start.

01:15:37.895 --> 01:15:39.516
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the chat and that'll be a good check in.

01:15:39.576 --> 01:15:41.617
[SPEAKER_00]: And then we'll do a follow show at the end of the season.

01:15:41.657 --> 01:15:44.518
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll talk about that one that went right and wrong.

01:15:44.838 --> 01:15:45.879
[SPEAKER_01]: That's a good plan, I think.

01:15:46.039 --> 01:15:46.359
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:15:47.120 --> 01:15:48.841
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to thank Draven for hanging out here.

01:15:48.981 --> 01:16:00.109
[SPEAKER_01]: I love the quarterly, like it's kind of like a quarterly show where we just do a check in every few months, because lots of things can change, but unfortunately, some things can also stay the same if your team's not good.

01:16:01.190 --> 01:16:11.838
[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, no, I mean, I, you know, I think if you're a giant's fan, you're probably like the Dodgers, like I, of course, I'm like, oh, the Dodgers, but I look at the Dodgers and go,

01:16:12.618 --> 01:16:16.661
[SPEAKER_01]: How can you do more things that they're doing because they're obviously doing the right thing.

01:16:16.701 --> 01:16:30.990
[SPEAKER_01]: So I just wish the giants would go like, hey, even if we're a little bit, you know, we're a little bit of a junior Dodgers mentality like I'd rather be the junior Dodgers mentality than do the zag that we're doing and just look awful.

01:16:33.010 --> 01:16:42.814
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so that's kind of why I like doing this because I like checking in with you and seeing what you guys think about your team because I know what I think about the team and I know what I think about your team.

01:16:42.934 --> 01:16:43.954
[SPEAKER_00]: I know it.

01:16:43.994 --> 01:16:57.960
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, I don't like it, but I There is I mean you if you're a baseball fan you understand the sport like you guys are what my warriors were like, you know six years ago Like that's what the number one heels in MLB right now.

01:16:58.000 --> 01:16:58.500
[SPEAKER_00]: That's okay

01:16:59.808 --> 01:17:04.759
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, so thanks to Draven, I am WG, we will see you when we see you piece out.