CMC Dominates Giants: The Defense Bends, Kittle's Lack of Opportunities, & Rams Preview |

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to we want winners Rod and I are here after the 49ers beat the New York Giants on that

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[SPEAKER_00]: villainous football field, and we'll talk about another possible injury that I heard Shanna had talk about in the press conference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The 49ers won 34 to 24, game got a little sloppy there in the fourth quarter when the giants were making their comeback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say otherwise it was nice to see the Ford enters offends come back and we are just so lucky to have Christian McAfrey as our starting running back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mac Jones looked good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The giant's defense was very willing to give up some stuff there and Mac took advantage in that one point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like 14 to 14 passing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't say this was the most impressive victory in the world, but just to go over to that side of the US and take care of business so that they can come back to the West Coast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was pretty happy with the overall final score, even if I didn't, I'm just not sure that they played extremely well, but they kind of, it was like one of those games where they got enough to do the job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: fall firmly in the win as a win category.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because like you say, it was, that was my overall feeling, you know, from like the second quarter, I was like, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just need to win this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, you know, not the 49er fans are going to feel sorry for any team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm looking at Jackson Darden.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like a pretty good player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you look at his offensive play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked at his offensive roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's like, he's been asked to get it done with, like, you would literally with Ray Wade McCloud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and throwing the ball to run their Robinson 12, 15.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This, it was really nuts, but yeah, you could really see that how they missed guys like neighbors in Scataboo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's definitely a game that they,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they should have won and they, they, they handled their business and that was just really all you could ask for in a situation where you're going across country, a plan at early game, which if you are better like me, you know that that is a notorious spot for West Coast teams, a notorious spot for teams to slip up and you know, other than that first drive and then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in the, the, the fourth quarter there, um, they really, they did a good job of, um, of handling their business of the past rest showed some signs of why it was so it was a good win overall, but not in nothing that, you know, because you could.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see it with our fan base online, they're talking about how we know we were back rushing a ball and again, I think, a two hundred seventy nine yards last week to the Eagles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So running, getting 149, 59 rushing yards against the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, wow, that's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did it, but that we shouldn't be thinking that like the the running game is like back now, but just because of that, because it's like I say,

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[SPEAKER_01]: this defense has shown itself to be a civil versus a run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but we're not being negative this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a good job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were bad and we capitalized and that's all you can ask for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the one bad news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll talk about it because Shelvin just posted about it in the chat is Michael Williams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they don't know, Shanahan specifically said the fear is ACL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he did not beat around the bush this time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he did for the, I guess he didn't really beat around the bush with the boss of the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure he was just like, oh my gosh, I hope it's not this and it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this time he out-out said that this is their worry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when he was speaking to the press that he saw Michael walking around so he hoped it wasn't that bad, but I don't think he heard what Kyle has said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nick was walking around, you know, so that they were talking about that on the TV broadcasts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We should be,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Intelligent enough as fans to know that seeing the dude walking does not Yep, does not preclude the fact that it could still be an ACL like you said, you know, he was being I guess glass half full with Nick, but we saw when he came off the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was walking under his own power and there was somebody who was communicating with his fans when he gave him the thumbs down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Parents I think it was his parents actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he knew what it was immediately so I hope for the best for that young man, but again, this is it's not a surprise and on that it is so it is crazy to think

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[SPEAKER_01]: that the league just allows that field with that has such an notorious reputation to just continue to exist.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was listening to the the Niners pre game on the radio, I was listening to Tim Ryan and some guy John Smith, I don't even know who he is, but anyway.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan was talking about how he was out there and it's just it's tacky is what he said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a sticky situation that is what and that's what the problem we believe is is that it's it's it's like not like any field any turf field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's ever been on and it just kind of grabs you, which is awful not great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tim Calcami has been on this one for years and years and years and he was saying that, you know, these teams, the NFL, this is such a giant business that you would think it is in the league's best interest to protect the players and have the best possible fields.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's not about the care of the players, why does every team try and perfect their practice field and no teams practice on turf, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, if it's up to the teams, they would like their practice fields to be turf and they would like their practice fields to all be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yet when you actually get

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[SPEAKER_00]: onto the playing surfaces in these games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is often not the case and so his point has just been like, well, whose choice is it to play on these these fields in this way?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it it is one of those mind boggling things like

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm a little bit of a harsher critic on the NFL as a whole because of things that they say and do and and where the money comes is kind of where they go a lot of the times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, you care about the health of your players like you say you do and we know what the stats are that these guys last three years, you know, and then their careers are generally over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is it bad to extend that shouldn't we want these guys to play five years or do we not care about that part like that's the thing that that bothers me but that is a whole different story because you know that that's just going into sort of the politics of the NFL but you know it's we we know that this field is the nightmare field of all nightmares and they could not escape this week without one of those nightmares.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are certain things that I just think as NFL leadership.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess, to see is the face of

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[SPEAKER_01]: NFL leadership, the commissioner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are certain things that just should be standardized throughout the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There should be the replay situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It should be the same and all 32 stadiums.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fields should be standardized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody, it should not be incumbent upon the teams to make those decisions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Certain things you should just have a

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[SPEAKER_01]: 30, 30 seconds of whatever it is into the pot to manage this thing and the fields are one of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just put it in the pot, the league manages it, and they hire the guys that in it, I'm not just talking about putting anybody out of a job, it's just that the people who run the field, they net and who do that now, they work for the league now, and it's all standard so that

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[SPEAKER_01]: the field in New England is the same as it is that Levi is the same as it is in New York.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There should not be these, that's not something we should ever have a conversation about is how the field is different in New York or in New Jersey than it is in Green Bay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That it doesn't make any sense in a

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[SPEAKER_01]: 25 billion dollar business that, you know, we are still running pockets of this, the officials being part time employees, we're just, you know, how we run this, this 25 billion dollar business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like it's a mom and pop still in some pockets of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that's madening to me that that is allowed to go on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's because if you allow 32 owners to just operate at their own devices in certain places,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you're going to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So certain things just need to be, you know, how they, you know, the leagues needs to put their foot down and say, look, this is what we're doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we only have to go back to Supervoles ago when the 49ers are complaining to the league, that the chiefs got

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[SPEAKER_00]: the good practice field and they got the JV practice field that they had to clean up themselves because it was in such bad shape.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like again, you know, the NFL supposed to be on the up and up, it's supposed to be the most successful U.S. sports league going and yet there are still some times when I'm like, is this the mom and pop league?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you hear things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It sounds like things you would expect to hear for the UFL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not the national football league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like, why are we even discussing when you place a Super Bowl somewhere?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you don't have to legitimate practice facilities, we should not be discussing about who's going to practice on the high school field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: ridiculous, like I said, we this league generates upwards of $25 billion a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not a mom, and that was a time when it was a mom in pop situation, but it's not that important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you just can't, it is so embarrassing to have these things come up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like for example, I'm talking about having somebody look at the fields,

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you get over to Brazil, you decide you're going to go over there and play that decision was made three or four years ago, and then you get over there and the field is shit it's

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[SPEAKER_01]: pulling up out of the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How does that even happen?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just, like you say, they do such a good job in some places.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, they do a great job of revenue generation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're really good at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then there are places where it's like they're just asleep at the switch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's get into this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, that that was a, I mean, there was a necessary conversation, a lot of that that stuff really does frustrate me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my question, yeah, obviously, hopefully, he's okay, you know, he hasn't had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What you would call a lights out rookie season, but I think he has been one of these stable forces on the defensive line for them in a, you know, in their year where there hasn't been a lot of stable forces so good luck to him, young player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a great future, especially here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I expected to happen is I expected the Niners to try and make things as confusing as possible for Jax and Dart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They actually did the opposite and they pretty much played Dart straight up and just tried to keep everything in front of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they knew he was going to try and search for a way out of the pocket in run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they outside of one run, they pretty much had that stuff bottled up and Jackson himself even got a gift from the referees as he was not sliding and Bethume had a nice hit and the referees called it roughing the pastor or whatever they called her the head to the head and shoulders or

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought they bottled him up really well and maybe that was the better way to play him, which was just to let him do his thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not really scared of any of their weapons, keep everything in front and you just win this long game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They covered third down very well in some cases because I was, you could see him kind of itching to get out and then he would complete a pass like three or four yards in front of the first down marker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that stuff I

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have liked to see them try and hurry him up a couple of times that they I think I can probably count on a couple fingers how many times I remember them truly blitzing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, the 49ers, one of their biggest issues right now is their inability to actually get any sort of past rest from the front four wasn't really there today either at Cleal and Farrell who's back, he got a sack which was just dart not really knowing where he was and and thinking that he had all the time in the world when Farrell was right behind him and crushed him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But so my thought, you know, they're going to do some things to hurry him up to make him make mistakes to get some interception.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nope, they just let him, they let New York play their game and they're like, you don't have enough offense of firepower to beat us and that turned to out to be the right thing, but from the defensive perspective for the 49ers, as you watch that game, they're,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I couldn't even really think of players who stood out, you know, there was a nice play by D. Winters near the sideline on a running back who got out in the flat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You saw Bethume in there, making some tackles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The giants were able to run the ball a little bit early on in that kind of RPO pistol stuff that they were doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when they had to pass,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really nothing until the the fourth quarter for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Jackson Dart had like five, five yards per completion or something like that or per attempt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So everything in front.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But but the what I was looking for and what I wanted to see was just a little bit of creativity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And and maybe they're holding it back because let me I'll explain part of why I wanted to see it is because we know who they played next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we know if they play the same style of football next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Matt Stafford's passes may not touch the ground and so, you know, maybe they withheld a lot of their creativity for next week, because we know how well they played the Rams the first time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But overall, what did you think about the defense, which think about the way that they played Dart and just, you know, anything that that you're thinking about for next week, which is the big game for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it kind of appeared to me that they were, I thought they had a really good rush plan versus him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seemed to me like the overall concern was him beating them or getting out the back door, because he is legitimately, you know, I'm not gonna say great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a very, very mobile quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they, you know, at least one of the touchdowns was just a design run and we didn't do a good job, we didn't, we did a horrible job of setting an edge and he just kind of, you know, walked into the end zone and I so I think that it was a couple of times where Sam Okuanu was actually in a position to make a good play because he didn't all out rush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just kind of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, stayed in his lane and stayed in position and didn't let dark get outside of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he, you know, he got into the getting like four yards, but he was, um, Okwana was in a position not to allow him to kind of beat him to the edge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and make a big game, which he is more than capable of doing and has done several times this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that didn't bother me as much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like you say, the lack of pressure, being the 31st of league and past rush is something that is a continuing concern and something that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, glass half full fans want to say that, you know, key on white and clear and fair, um, are going to make a difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, we'll see next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is definitely, and I just don't think these guys are good enough, um, in and of themselves to make much of a difference in the past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just going to, it's good to have competent NFL players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But none of these guys have made a name for themselves in the league as pass rush or so it is still going to be incumbent upon solid to manufacture pass rush and that's where like you talk about next week where it gets tricky is that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can have a hard time blitzing Matt Stafford because you don't, you know, he's just one of those guys, he's, you know, a veteran guy, you saw the veteran guys, Aaron Rogers even at his advanced age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Joe Flacco, the goal standard is Patrick Mahomes, you don't speed these guys up with the blitz.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just, you're not going to scare them because if they identify it, they know where they know where it's coming from and they know exactly where they're going to beat it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the

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[SPEAKER_01]: The challenge with, you know, guys have been in the league and I think this is like year 17 for Stafford.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just you're going to be hard pressed to disguise blitzes in a matter consistently that he's not going to have answers for and you do have to get a pass rush on him I was watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was watching a bunch of games before we came on and you know, Pukas back and they just kind of marched down the film.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to take that with a grain of salt, but there was no pass rush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was just a dissection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what ends up happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can't get a consistent pass rush on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you can't get a consistent pass rush against him with with just four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: blitzing is not really a, it's not a viable consistent option for winning against them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's again one of the many things that's going to be important for us to kind of figure out and you know, I'm sure we'll talk about this before we end up is, is the question is, are we going to get any help?

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[SPEAKER_01]: scoring, you know, by Tuesday from a true difference maker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, look, if these guys end up being clear, the feral is a good, well, he's an average NFL player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Giving him, giving him here now to take 30 or 40 snaps is an excellent thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Keon White has played in the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got 1,500 snaps under his belt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: average in a field line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we need those because we had a bunch of rookies of bunch of injuries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a good thing to have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But none of these guys are different makers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's if you're serious about if you feel like this team is one that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: can do something this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have thoughts about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we should spend a whole bunch of draft capital for a short-term rental for this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think this team was good enough for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, you know, third, fourth, fifth round picks and if you hit on them,

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[SPEAKER_01]: our more value would be more valuable to me than an eight game rental of a average or above average player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I don't think it's going to move in need of enough to sacrifice the future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if you told me you could get, you know, max cross before a second round pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that's a different conversation, but you're not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so if you're telling me you

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, I'd rather, I'd honestly rather have a clown pick, but, you know, it's so it'll be interesting to see what they're, um, what they're, um, because you hear the numbers that are being thrown around for players like, um, Jalen Phillips and Miami, they say they want a third.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have to pay him, and then you

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I know draft picks are, you know, kind of like a dart throw and that's fair, but a third strategy was the night is going to draft a running back there, I'm right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's that, but you, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got we we've drafted after several horrible drafts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So last two seas get two drafts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've got players where they are in terms of, are they starters?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they rotation players?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we have any stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we have any pro bullies or all pros.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that could change, but I just, you know, I was talking to somebody this week about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, those guys, those, those special

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[SPEAKER_01]: all of them that we've ever had there, I can't think of one that, you know, it was here three or four where, oh, they just, you know, they turned into this all pro or, you know, pro ball player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: George was special immediately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fred was special immediately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Patrick will us going back to a different era was special immediately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's, it's very rare that those guys

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great, great players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our guy, one of the ones that I can think of was Patrick's running me to, why am I, oh my, like, moment, yeah, I don't got better and better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he, I think some of it is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He saw who he was playing next to and was able to adapt his game to to make sure that he could, you know, he could emphasize his own strengths playing next Patrick's then that so that to me, they are a tandem in that way, but for the, I mean, for the most part, you're right, like if you're waiting for someone to pop after year two or three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of times, it doesn't happen the way that you want it to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and the ones that they're willing to wait for are the quarterbacks, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you're willing to wait for a quarterback to develop in that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you look at someone like Drake May.

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[SPEAKER_00]: who all of a sudden is like, just this amazing QB in his second season, you know, last year, I think people saw glimpses though, like, oh, I think this guy could be really good, but our team isn't we're going to have to wait and then you put some guys around him and then he he flourishes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're, you know, I get it because

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[SPEAKER_00]: jia a jia a year brown is not going to turn into a probable safety from what it looks like right I mean he's the one who they're blaming for the for the Jackson dart run Matt Barrow said he actually went the wrong way on the play he just misread it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And and you know, who knows, maybe some of these younger guys that they drafted this year, who would they are giving some of these repetitions to out of sheer necessity, maybe maybe those guys that maybe it turns around quicker for them than than it would have had had they not been been dealing with all the injuries, but to your point about whether or not they bring somebody in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the defense of line today, at least in the beginning of the game, they were getting pushed around by this porous New York giant team like if you go back and watch that first drive,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the little the little running back wasn't getting touched until he got to like four or five yards past line of skirmish now they fixed it that whatever whatever was the problem they they were able to fix it, but the beginning of this game I was like, you know, you are trying to sell your team on the idea that hey, we can win this game, we go to six and three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you need to win three more games?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Four more games to be a playoff team?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You win three more games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're probably in the mix for seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't mean that you're getting in a seven, but you're right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at the same time,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're you're struggling with this very clearly beat up and under talented team and so I almost wonder if you just need to bring in some guys and you have to do it in a very smart way because like you said, you know, there there are that there are taxes and penalties for trading for some of these guys that you know you're going to be paying for down the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also at the same time, if you're trying to tell this team, hey, keep going out there and fighting, you know, this is what football is all about, we need to get to the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how you prove who you are and then you keep putting out this defensive line that is so unimpressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like a mixed message in a way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, one thing I wanted to follow up on, thought I'm not saying that players can't get better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's what I was saying was that you rarely see a quantum league, you know, guys typically are who they are and they get better in the margins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my like Brock, who has had a very successful career up to this point,

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[SPEAKER_01]: with experience and savvy and you know just learning and you know continuing to learn to be a pro he can get better I'm not saying that you know I'm not expecting a quantum leap for him but at at the same time you know he can continue to get better from year three to four to year to five and will probably be a much better player three years from now than he is

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we last saw him, but I'm talking about those quantum leaves said, if you, you know, guy who's a 60 grade consistently a PFF is typically not going to jump to being a 75 or 80 guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, you know, that is not how growth and development works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just, I, I, you make a very good point about

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the message that you're sending to these guys, if you want to keep them fighting, you want to show them that you're doing everything you can as management to put the best thing team you can around them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there is a balance of doing that, you know, there's a

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you know, what you don't want to do is end up in March of next year down three picks for guys that are no longer even on the roster is that that is what I don't if you can trade for guys that have a longer

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[SPEAKER_01]: time horizon with the team, somebody who's already on a contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At least a one more year contract or longer, which generally means, you know, somebody's still on their rookie deal, then that would be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I brought this up last week and for team is willing to trade a guy who

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[SPEAKER_01]: got two years left on his rookie deal and they worked with him for the last two years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What exactly do they know about him that you don't, that they much rather have another bite of the apple.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on somebody who's unknown than this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, it's always, it's a tricky balance on a lot of fronts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you want to show your team that you guys, we're in here fighting, which you're trying to get you the best teammate or put the best team around you as possible, but you also have to be thinking about,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the next three or four years and so it's a it's a it's a tricky mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be interesting to see the next, you know, 48 hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be, is going to tell us a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, for better or for worse, what lunch and crew think about this team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's the deadline is Tuesday, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, they have,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If two days a day and a half essentially to get some folks in and you know they've been active like you said they got the guy from the Patriots, they picked up Farrell and those guys are depth bodies right they are there to fill in when necessary and I'm sure if if Williams is is hurt like it looks like then that's why you got the guy from the Patriots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the very least, I don't think he'll be playing next week that I would think that, you know, and again, I could be that might be saying too much, but it did not look good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't look good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I fully expect them because Lynch is an X player, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He understands what it's like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He understands what he is asking of all of these guys to go out there and do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the they've or like if you're if you're a player who's who's dinged up, which is probably 90% of the players on on the field and you're thinking about man, you know, I'm not feeling great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I might be able to take some pain meds and my ankle will feel better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you see something like what happened to Cam Skataboo and you're like, oh my god, like, you know, is it worth it to keep, you know, put myself out there like that when I'm not 100%.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is what Lynch has to show to these guys is that we see you doing all this to get on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we appreciate you and us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we need to bring in some players to help you guys get through this now at the same time if you're on the 49ers side you go this might just be what it what is a Simmons call it the the year of year of death or whatever he calls it basically being the bad luck season where nothing is going to go right no matter how hard you try which we thought was last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're they're bandling it much better this year though than they did last year, but it's very similar to the amount of entries that they're dealing with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you see, I could really, you know, again, no and what I know about the metal and it was still when, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you see it in before David acknowledged it on the broadcast I saw it and it was like oh you got to be kidding me because my kill was very animated you know slapping his helmet and grabbing his knee like immediately so it was like you got to be kidding me this is this can't be happening

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[SPEAKER_01]: Five or six times now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: unreal and you think you know we this is like a you know it's weird with it being a seven game season a 17 game season now trying to figure out what halfway it is but this was you know game nine so this is about as close as you get to a halfway point and you as a fan you just hope that at certain

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[SPEAKER_01]: the worm has to turn, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've seen the worst of it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, you know, like my brother is always said, you know, you get to rock bottom and you find out there's a trap door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is just been one of those seasons where every time you think that it can't get any

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm the one to think, I'm the guy that's always saying when fans try to, you know, one of my pitpees is how fans try to make injuries like a character flaw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, these guys play a collision sport.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, when when when you said when they're always hurt, well, let's shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're in low grade car crashes 60 times a game, so I mean, that it's not to me, I don't see even with all the more the precautions, I don't see how there are more players in percussion protocol than already are, I mean, because it's just, I don't know, it's just it's one of those things, but it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at the statistics, it's hard to argue that, you know, we're, we've, like, over the past, over Kyle's tenure, we like lead the league in games loss by a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I understand that it's because of the physical style that we play, but nevertheless, it doesn't make, it doesn't make it go down any easier as a fan and I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, as a team, it doesn't, you know, it's hard to deal with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We should talk about some of the good points of this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the player of the game is a Christian McAfrey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He, I think it's a 16th game in his NFL career, where he scored a rushing touchdown, and also had a receiving touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's the most by any player ever in the history of the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So shout out to CMC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you've been making this point pretty much all season long,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, we are so lucky to have him on a season like this because he just sort of corrects all of your mistakes just because he is so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he can turn something that looks bad into something that is actually a net positive because of how much better he is as a running back, then the players that are trying to tackle him and they are trying to keep up with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things that Mac Jones I think has been a strength of Mac Jones is we see it sometimes we see with Brock

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock likes to test the ball down field because he thinks there are a lot of opportunities to make bigger plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And sometimes in doing that he will force some throws.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a risk involved in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when all he would have to do sometimes is just toss it over to Christian on the side and let Christian pick up 10 yards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that is how Brock plays Brock is so adept.

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[SPEAKER_00]: at reading his receivers and knowing the where guys are supposed to be that he's actually thinking so so much further down field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And with that, you have the you have the possibility of being on the wrong page or especially earlier this season or a receiver dropping a ball when the easy outlet is like just a money 10 yards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mac does not really mess with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm serving the field, I know I got this guy who's just waiting out there and he's going to pick up positive yardage for me no matter what, you know what, I'm not messing with this boom, Christian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has done that very well this year and it is, you know, some, I'm sure Shanahan probably thinks there may, there may be bigger plays out there, but when Christian is doing what he's doing,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you're probably okay with it, but Mac is not taking that for granted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mac is like, nope, I'm putting the ball in the hands of our best player as many times as I can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that that has been a positive for this offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: outside of last week when it wasn't because it didn't work because Houston knew exactly what was coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know why the giants didn't watch the same tape because then I would have, but Christian was wide open all game long and matches took advantage of it, and I thought, you know, that was just the smart play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was Mac making the smart reads, getting the body your best player and letting him cook.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you are so right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is such an astute observation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'm a really related story before here, but when Brock

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[SPEAKER_01]: took over after the Jimmy injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had an old coworker of light.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a huge, I was state fan, so I reached out to him to get his scouting report on Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this one of the things that took away from him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said that he's got a little yellow toy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He does, you know, Brock, Brock is he is kind of a gunslinger in that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, he'll take

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[SPEAKER_01]: chances with the ball, because you know, it just shows that, you know, I, it always was funny to me, how people try to paint him, you know, people try to paint, you know, Brock all kinds of ways, but you know, like you put on playing, um, painting him is like this all shucks kind of got that dude is confident in his head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's going to test it and in ways that you know, Mac, it just doesn't seem to be built that way and I saw an interview with him where he talks, but you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been through a lot in the league, so he really kind of appreciates this opportunity and appreciates having somebody like Christian who he can just give the ball to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He really had even stated that it's just it's a pleasure to have somebody like him be your safety valve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because good thing, you know, when you normally, when most likely when you get to him the ball, something good is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't, I can't fall to him for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, what do you think about, because we talked about this when he was coming back, and it has really kind of manifested.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So manifested himself with George in that he is just not

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[SPEAKER_01]: really gotten involved in the past game really at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just think that for this team as currently constructed for us to be as good as we need to, as we want to be, I just don't think he can, I guess he has to be a blocker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but we have to figure out a way to keep him involved as a receiving option.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just too good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just too good to be a decoy or you know that would be a perpetual frustration with me if he's not one of your top target getters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had only four targets today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: though rather than all the convertible three fortitude though Christian and Joann are the only two players who had more than him we should say nice bounce back game for Joann he also should have got a pass in her parents on the defense in the end zone because he was like he was like tackled before the ball was even there

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, last week we talked about Joanne, you know, betting on himself and maybe it not working out exactly the way that he wanted, but I thought he had a pretty sharp game today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing he feels a little better and he feels healthier because he looked better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even on that touchdown, you know, Joanne is not fast by any means, but you can tell when he's hard to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but it's hard one on one for his, you know, like you say, he's not a burner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he is not going to route anybody up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, in terms of contested catches and, you know, just beating a DB, he's graded that if you put the ball in a place where he can get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get it, you know, he's just, you know, 30, he's 30, he wants for reasons because he is, you know, that, and I just like you said, I am rooting for him to have a productive, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: a productive second half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I hope that the trade rumors are just that because I would hate to see him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate to see, well, I know he's going to go eventually, probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's probably not in the team's long-term plans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, I would like to see him finish the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see him leave through free agency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would hate to see him leave in the middle of the season at

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[SPEAKER_00]: So back to the kiddo conversation, and the reason why I brought up Joannis, because I think they're very similar in this way, when they are keyed on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're they're they're going to be less, you know, the successful in in in their targets and stuff, when B.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and pretty ricky are on the field at the same time taking some of that attention away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think things will open up, you know, a George was the number one target of Jimmy that one year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And but that's also on a team that had B.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Debo, I believe I can't remember Debo was there yet, but so those guys, you have to pay attention to those guys and right now, if you're saying,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, the, the Ricky Waters, uh, alligator arm syndrome there on the one, because he was like, there, I know there's, I know this receivers in the wrong area and thus I know the cornerback who is running with this receiver is near me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I try and stretch out from this for this catch, I'm probably getting smoke and he kind of was, he made a business decision on that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys don't scare anybody as well as Kendrick Born has played right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys don't scare anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know who does scare defenses bread and I you and you know who was opening up some eyes was pretty Ricky now pretty Ricky's home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just about staying on the field who knows if that is never going to happen, but when those guys are back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then George sneaking out in the flat in a clever play call, that stuff's going to be open.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Christian, I think I think Christian may not get as many targets, but he may be open for bigger plays when those guys come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, we keep saying that when these guys come back, that is also not something that is a given, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: BA is coming off of this crazy injury and

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[SPEAKER_00]: that if everything works out well, he comes back and he's 90% of himself, you know, 92% of himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you hope that Ricky will be able to come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But nothing is for certain because those guys could come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Something else could happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And our like vision of what this perfect future is for the offense might might it just may not get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in my perfect version of what of what the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kittle and Joanne are of lesser concern for the defense and that that will open things up for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you know you that was a very intelligent explanation because like as you were saying and I'm looking at the roster of guys who are out there today is like if

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kendrick Bourne or Skymore or Jordan Watson or Jordan Watkins or Luke Feral or Jamarkus Robb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they beat me then Saloo but we're not going to lead George Kittles beat us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So right you are 100%

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, um, in that I, and I hadn't really looked at the game on Monday or Tuesday, tune that threat, um, lens, but I will this week to see what's happening with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in coverage because maybe that is the explanation as to why he's not being targeted more maybe he is receiving that type of attention but like you say it makes it a lot easier for everyone and you also in your comments made flash to me is it you know in addition to this being a the trade deadline it will be interesting to see Kyle had kind of said while he didn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: make any promises, you know, that week 10 was the first week he talked about, made possibly opening up BAs practice window, sort of be interested to see if that is, in fact the case.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I read it, you know, you got to take Grant Call with a

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[SPEAKER_01]: last yesterday that it's possible that B.A.

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[SPEAKER_01]: could be back even before Ricky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that is, you know, and that speaks to another point that you made in terms of who knows when Ricky is going to be back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get that is, and again, that has always been the challenge with him, you know, go back to college.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was that, you know, he is a very, very productive player as long as he's on the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that has always been a challenge in college.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was his shoulder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, which, again, was interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was coming out of the draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was, you know, pretty much believed that at some point he was going to need so shoulder surgery to fix it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now it's like been everything other than that than Lee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it'll be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you say, it's a different dynamic with those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: any help that's coming is going to have to come from off the roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are two or three pieces that at least two for sure that if you count Garendo, you know, two pieces for sure that could really impact if they, you know, and again, we don't know what version of BA is coming back after

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he has, he's got pills on the wall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's a former all pro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he is, you know, a very, um, two or three levels of head, healthy of these guys we have and can make a, um, real impact.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he's able to come back, you know, like 75% or 80%.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then like you said, the same thing was breaking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has shown in his short time that, um, he has somebody that

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, hopefully we can get through guys back and we get to see that version of this offense at some this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the way that I was looking at that is because you kind of got me to look at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the way that the offense works, kind of like how the warrior's offense works, where you use stuff to draw people away to open up other things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Niners offense, when you have all of the pieces working, you can very much

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Shanahan can scheme something to where it looks like the ball's going here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is, I was actually explaining to my wife, because she saw the Christian touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was like, how could the defense possibly leave Christian so wide open?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one guy that you need to pay attention to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as I was showing her, I was like, look at Joanne.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and look at what he does because all Joanne did was like run a slant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I forget the other receiver, but they both were in right next to each other, and they both ran slants towards the middle of the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And all it took was the outside DB running with them for like one step Christian shot through, and he was wide open, like no one was even near him in the flat for the touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when you have all of the pieces, Shanahan probably thinks that he's kind of being handicapped in a way of what he can do offensively without all of his guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when they come back, if they come back, you know, this dude might be like, oh my gosh, just what I've been waiting for all year long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I hope that I hope we get to see it, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe,

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is all building to near the end of the season when the Niners are actually playing their best football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least offensively, I don't think they'll actually get to play any best football defensively with all the people missing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe offensively, because we talked up this last week, maybe they're just going to have about score teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe if you get to that point, you're talking about week 12, week 13, and it's like, oh, my gosh, this is what it should have looked like all year long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we can get there, I'll be happy to watch it now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: without the defense can it actually be a full team where you where you're thinking like you have some some momentum to get in the playoffs maybe not but

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we saw the playoff last year, like Detroit, like put 50 points on teams and stuff and they're looking great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it maybe it will take something like that to to make a little bit of a run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just to kind of get to the end of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brian Robinson, Jr., also had a really nice game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You only had five carries, but 53 yards and a nice touchdown for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, defensively, Tatum Bethune had 16 tackles today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only the next highest two word DBs up and stout and Renardo Green both had six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tatum had eight solo tackles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he had as many solo tackles as the the next highest person more than the next highest person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also, he had a real confident today, you know, he looked like, I mean, obviously, I'm, I'm staying, I'm captain obvious, you know, so sue me, but for somebody who had 16 tackles, he really played with force today and was really, he made his presence felt, which is good to see, because it can be easy, you know, playing in the, the, the, the Fred Warner role, but, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's um, he has looked really good and looked very good today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know this is like what we all do as football fans is like we look into the future, but as I'm watching him play, I'm going like, man, I'm sure they are trying to figure out how to put him and Fred on the field together next year, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, how do you look

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[SPEAKER_01]: good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It becomes an outshot year type situation where he would look like a guy who just, you know, was somebody who needed to be out there, but you, you know, so you played more three line back or but he wasn't going to take Fred or, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is that is the place that as a player, you know, like I'll show you what you do is you try to play yourself into a position where you can get paid somewhere else and that those are good problems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or, you know, as he able to work where they're trying to get more three linebacker sets or worst case scenario, he's showcasing himself for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: other teams maybe somebody wants to come getting you know so yeah it's it's really good I you know honest I'm gonna be 100% honest I didn't really see it in the preseason he didn't strike me as a very you know dynamic type of player but he's looked really good in this relief role

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... all right and then uh... just looking at the defeat the rest of the defense dead to sacks we mentioned him samo and uh... clean ferrell had one each uh... they only had three quarterback hits so there was only one other time and it was my cow Williams who actually hit dart so still you know not not really much on the past rush side there by the way you were talking about concussion protocol my man jack uh... my man dart was

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[SPEAKER_00]: man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He must be watching like early Steve Young tapes or something because he does not want to escape and change her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he is not cognizant of his health at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not like he's big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not as big as John Allen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's not just not at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be important to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like, and so you have to as a player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to protect yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to do a much better job of protecting yourself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm looking at this game now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I say that Patrick Mahomes seems to get more reckless, more and more reckless.

58:21.391 --> 58:27.060
[SPEAKER_01]: As the days go by in terms of protecting himself, he's like trying to run somebody over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got a taste of that with Maladin Mustafa last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now he's he's hunting, he's hunting, do's up twice a week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems like with yeah, when you're that important to the team, you really do need to protect yourself at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those types of plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, other things did, you know, get the team fired up, you know, in the meeting room afterwards, you know, seeing your quarterback being that kind of physical, but, you know, you kind of got to be smart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was, the Eli Manning must have a young son, because I think I saw a photo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: of his son dressed up as Jackson Dark for Halloween with the headband and the number, like imagine like you're like, you want two Super Bowls with the Giants and your kid wants to be Jackson Dark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Manning Jersey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me get that Dark Jersey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is that?

59:28.179 --> 59:31.143
[SPEAKER_00]: What does that say about Arches season so far?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not my uncle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so looking ahead, the Niners and the Rams is the Sunday game, and this time, it is in San Francisco 125 start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Rams are playing right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How are they doing?

01:00:06.455 --> 01:00:10.600
[SPEAKER_00]: The Rams are currently up 20 to 10 at halftime.

01:00:10.640 --> 01:00:11.881
[SPEAKER_00]: They're playing New Orleans.

01:00:11.921 --> 01:00:21.912
[SPEAKER_00]: So they kind of have a semi-easy game, much like the Niners did this weekend to set up the big game next week, but like let's say the Rams win.

01:00:21.952 --> 01:00:33.525
[SPEAKER_00]: So you would essentially have a 6 and 2 Rams going into San Francisco to face a 6 and 3 49ers, which is about as important as a game

01:00:34.028 --> 01:00:37.815
[SPEAKER_00]: in week 10 for the for the nine or so.

01:00:37.835 --> 01:00:38.797
[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's a big one.

01:00:38.817 --> 01:00:49.157
[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm really looking forward to a couple things, which is Shanahan kind of got one over on McVay last time.

01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:53.826
[SPEAKER_00]: We know that these guys have that natural rivalry.

01:00:55.409 --> 01:01:02.243
[SPEAKER_00]: They, and like I said, I kind of wonder if Shanahan held some stuff back from today's game.

01:01:02.444 --> 01:01:07.073
[SPEAKER_00]: The Niners did run 39 times, by the way, and, you know, Shanahan loves that 40 mark.

01:01:07.935 --> 01:01:11.883
[SPEAKER_00]: So they played really straightforward football for the most part.

01:01:13.306 --> 01:01:14.228
[SPEAKER_00]: And

01:01:14.748 --> 01:01:21.778
[SPEAKER_00]: The Rams probably feel like they let one slip away when we went in there and we beat them.

01:01:22.740 --> 01:01:24.422
[SPEAKER_00]: And so there's gonna be something there.

01:01:24.482 --> 01:01:32.394
[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of wonder the outside odds for Brock to be just like screw it.

01:01:32.534 --> 01:01:33.335
[SPEAKER_00]: This is the week.

01:01:34.377 --> 01:01:36.099
[SPEAKER_00]: Like I need to be in there.

01:01:36.159 --> 01:01:39.304
[SPEAKER_00]: This is a huge game.

01:01:40.617 --> 01:02:00.142
[SPEAKER_00]: there that you know we talked about him he you know Brock doesn't see himself as like six feet one he sees himself as ten feet tall he's like I need to be there I kind of that's a I'm kind of wondering about that just he understands that big game and what what this game means and and where they need to be so I do wonder if he's going to push it.

01:02:00.223 --> 01:02:02.085
[SPEAKER_00]: Chanhand said that

01:02:02.065 --> 01:02:06.690
[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't really realistic that he was going to be near ready today.

01:02:06.770 --> 01:02:14.039
[SPEAKER_00]: So that doesn't vote well necessarily, but maybe he's playing poker too, and maybe he's holding him back for, you know, for that Rams game.

01:02:14.059 --> 01:02:16.982
[SPEAKER_00]: So I want to see how that shapes up this week.

01:02:17.563 --> 01:02:20.947
[SPEAKER_00]: We obviously have the possibility of trades for both teams, because they're both.

01:02:20.967 --> 01:02:22.188
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure looking for players.

01:02:22.809 --> 01:02:27.094
[SPEAKER_00]: So any thoughts as we get out of here on next week's game against Rams?

01:02:27.952 --> 01:02:40.129
[SPEAKER_01]: I am super excited about what, you know, if we're able to do anything, I hope we're able to do something even if just on the, the fringes to improve the defense.

01:02:40.570 --> 01:02:47.120
[SPEAKER_01]: Just a little bit, because I don't think I am being one over by Robert Sala all over again.

01:02:47.140 --> 01:02:53.228
[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think that he needs a whole lot to affect things.

01:02:53.288 --> 01:02:55.832
[SPEAKER_01]: So we can just get him a little more help.

01:02:56.268 --> 01:03:02.435
[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that help can come in the secondary, I don't think it has to be a defensive lineman.

01:03:02.916 --> 01:03:08.682
[SPEAKER_01]: I think if you could get him a safety, he can trust because he clearly is playing musical chairs.

01:03:08.982 --> 01:03:15.930
[SPEAKER_01]: We're back to hear it safety because he doesn't really have one that he can really count on if you get him a DB.

01:03:15.990 --> 01:03:18.293
[SPEAKER_01]: Now somebody like,

01:03:18.678 --> 01:03:22.823
[SPEAKER_01]: Jair Alexander would have been great that the Eagles are able to get again.

01:03:22.843 --> 01:03:28.831
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I saw I hope they're able to just do just something on the margins.

01:03:29.492 --> 01:03:42.829
[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not an advocate like I've said before of them, you know, more than a farm and given first or second, you know, training first or second day picks for, you know, you have it has to be somebody who

01:03:43.265 --> 01:04:04.239
[SPEAKER_01]: is in their prime that I'm like, so I'm not interested in somebody like train Hendrix and you know, that's not who I'm talking about, but you know, I could be convinced if you were going to sign in, you know, somebody like Jane Phillips from Miami, that would be, you know, a great move.

01:04:04.300 --> 01:04:06.403
[SPEAKER_01]: And then beyond that,

01:04:07.514 --> 01:04:18.135
[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be interesting to see if we can get BA back, and I doubt if the practice one opens this week, I doubt that he'd be out there Sunday, but yeah, like you say, this is a big game.

01:04:18.335 --> 01:04:27.292
[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is one that we, I miss week 10, but I think it's one we have to get, it's one we have to get.

01:04:27.332 --> 01:04:30.298
[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm really looking forward to, um,

01:04:30.869 --> 01:04:36.124
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the rest of this week and then, you know, Rams week is always a big one.

01:04:36.265 --> 01:04:38.050
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, they're coming to us this time.

01:04:38.070 --> 01:04:42.162
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I'm really, I'm excited about the game next week.

01:04:42.918 --> 01:04:43.298
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:04:43.539 --> 01:04:44.960
[SPEAKER_00]: And you and I will be back.

01:04:45.040 --> 01:04:52.288
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll we'll figure out if we're coming live after the game, which we've been trying to do as much as possible.

01:04:52.948 --> 01:05:00.156
[SPEAKER_00]: So we will we'll more than likely be up after the game immediately live streaming.

01:05:00.176 --> 01:05:04.701
[SPEAKER_00]: If not, we'll we'll just record it and put it up when when we get it done.

01:05:05.321 --> 01:05:07.103
[SPEAKER_00]: But otherwise,

01:05:07.083 --> 01:05:09.687
[SPEAKER_00]: hope that everyone has a fun week.

01:05:09.707 --> 01:05:11.789
[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's nice when when you get a win.

01:05:11.870 --> 01:05:12.410
[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell you what.

01:05:12.430 --> 01:05:17.097
[SPEAKER_00]: I liked this Sunday better than last Sunday because last Sunday is.

01:05:17.537 --> 01:05:19.620
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:05:19.660 --> 01:05:20.541
[SPEAKER_00]: So that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to Shelvin who was in the chat hanging out for Rod.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am double G. We will see when we see you piece out.