49ers Trade Analysis (Skyy Moore & Brian Robinson) & 2025 Fantasy Football Draft Strategy with Chris Allen

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's we want winners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rod and I are back talking about the forty-nineers and chargers there last preseason game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the four and hundreds made two trades in the last few days to hopefully improve their roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't imagine the roster construction is done considering the injuries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk a little bit about Joanne Jennings in his situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Tim Calcami reported that it's possible he could go on IR.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have not heard anything else about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after we do this little intro segment, we're going to have a pre-recorded interview that we did with Chris Allen, who works for Matthew Barry's Fantasy Life website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very heavy fantasy football segment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the good thing about it is lots of Niners talk as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing that fantasy football guys can do is they can talk about regular football as well because of how much they study.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought Chris was really good and Rod and I had a lot of Forty Niners based questions though, not only Forty Niners based questions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did, you know, when you have a great mind in fantasy football like Chris for us, Rod and I've been playing fantasy football forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did have some

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[SPEAKER_01]: nerdy your questions for him, but Rod, let's kick this off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, for those who are watching on video, that YouTube video with Chris the interview is already up for you listening on audio will play the audio of that after Rod and I chit chat here for a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Rod, we watched the game yesterday, forty-and-enders chargers kind of sloppy, lots of second and third stringers try to make the team anything that you learned that we haven't already discussed from the previous two games any insight to some folks who may be stood out in good or bad ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a rough watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a fan of Muffins, thank you for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was, if the handwriting wasn't already on the wall for Junior Bergen with the Steinmore acquisition, he did not help himself at all with that performance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of felt bad for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I couldn't, I can't really add any insight more than if anybody who watched the game

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[SPEAKER_00]: doing insights I have or things that, you know, Tim Ryan pounded to death like the looter flowers competition.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just, you know, and those are like, you know, friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could be important, but, you know, kind of friends, roster moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you feel about this, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think more so than any year in recent memory, I am on the lookout for dudes that aren't even on the team being really in play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like guys that are cut from other situations who actually might be in a better position to make this roster than the guys that have been here all summer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what's funny?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We said, we were talking about the wide receiver roster, the depth chart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we were saying last week how, you know, Shanahan is so diverse to playing younger players that it makes sense that someone like Robbie chosen is having a good preseason because

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure Kyle would like to put somebody in there who's a vet who he can rely on over a younger player who may make a mistake in a game or run the wrong thing or not block or whatever whatever that may be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like Russell Gage may be hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he may not make the roster right away, but at this point, you know, the same thing, other teams are also looking for who's on the waiver wire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the foreignaires may be able to cut Russell Gage and then bring him back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a feeling like you said, there's going to be a lot of playing with the depth chart over the next two weeks, because they do have two weeks till the season starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one that we had mentioned, uh, Kendrick Bourne was number one on Matt Barrow's chart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He put together like over thirty, and I think it's like thirty names of guys who may be available, who the Niners could actually either trade for a late round pick or just pick up on the waiver wire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Skymore was on that list too, but Skymore was like in the middle, like after like the first fifteen or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there are going to be guys more than likely who I imagine the forty-nineers are going to like better than some of the wide receivers who are at the end of their active roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Skymore being one of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually thought they utilized him fairly well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was kind of all over the place and you could see that he's got some speed and that was nice to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the end of the day is, are the forty-nineers going to trust a guy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I actually pulled up his numbers and here are Skym Moore's numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is with the Kansas City Chiefs of all teams, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Skym Moore and his new with context last year, they were in bad shape at receiver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So his rookie season, he played all sixteen games, twenty two catches, two hundred and fifty yards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His second year, he played fourteen games, twenty one receptions, two hundred and forty four yards, last year, six games, zip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it doesn't, it's not a, you know, it's not a surprise that he's available for the forty-nineers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what I am wondering is if they find some guys that

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[SPEAKER_01]: are waived if they actually have those guys ahead of Skymore who they gave up or they flip flopped picks with with the chiefs so they could have made this trade end up cutting him at the end of the day and just losing the flip flop and you know getting the worse of that pick for nothing just for the just for the the you know a couple week try out or whatever so that's what I'm interested in and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sort of the same thing like I looked at their roster earlier today on the athletic Matt Burrows had like his guess of today where the roster would stand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, we're talking about fantasy football here, there is very much a stars and scrubs mentality to how they are putting this roster together because they have absolute studs at certain positions, tight end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many tight ends are better than George Kittle in the NFL?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Very few if any, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, Brock Perti top ten ish quarterback for for most Christian McCaffrey and the the problem with Christian McCaffrey's every time you say his name you have to say if he's healthy, which is that unfortunate thing, but if he is healthy, who is a better weapon in in football, very few players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have the right, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he, I mean, and they used him so much last year, we'll see how much tread is on as on those tires.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope not much if you're just a fan of football, because that dude was awesome last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But also, you know, linebacker, Fred Warner, stud, Nick Bosa, stud, Trent Williams, stud.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have those studs, but when you look at the back end of their depth,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's guys who I wonder if some of the lesser rosters would even have on their roster, who the Niners have to employ because of the fact that they are so injured right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's not only going to be receiver position that I'm wondering, I really wonder about other positions, offensive line, defensive line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is somebody's straggler who they're trying to pass through so they can put on the practice squad?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that person

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like a backup for the Niners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's quite possible because of what their depth chart looks like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is what I have all through this because during this offseason, I've watched.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like a generate quite a bit of preseason football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess today I was watching the Packers and that same thing occurred to me is they were talking about with their situation whether or not they were going to keep six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: defensive interior players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I legitimately, when they were going down the list of those six, it's like, I don't think any of our players could play for the Packers and anybody that they could might start here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, it's like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, so it's always said on cut day on Tuesday that um, a lot of guys shouldn't get

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[SPEAKER_00]: too comfortable because just because you make it just because you are on the fifty three Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: three o'clock or whatever, that does not necessarily mean that you are safe and that somebody else who is made available at the last minute won't come in and take your spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's going, I don't think, again, I don't think it's the deadline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think our team is one of those teams that even once the the fifty three is set, I don't think that anybody can be comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do you take of not only this guy more deal, we could talk a little bit more about it, but also they went out and traded for Brian Robinson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Brian Robinson's stat sheet looks a lot better, and I'll give his numbers right now, because the same ages are same, how many years he's played as Skymore with the commanders all three years?

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[SPEAKER_01]: first season he had seven hundred ninety seven rushing yards and twelve games second season seven thirty three and fifteen last year in fourteen games seven ninety nine so very consistent RB two production and probably even more production than your normal RB two and I do wonder is this is this a play or is this basically saying

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't stay healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need someone to ask the RB-two who stays healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Garendo is the RB-three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or are they still thinking Garendo's the RB-two?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But because he's often injured, you want to have someone ready right there, Patrick Taylor Jr.

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[SPEAKER_01]: out for the season already just because of a shoulder thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have the young player who hasn't been able to play James yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: nobody's stable there so then you go get a professional football player who has you know who has played and been successful as a backup before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, except that if you on you, um, as you were going through the rundown, you know, he's missed ten games in the past three years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can pretty much pencil him down for two to three misgames a year or two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so while, you know, the the book on I have to

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[SPEAKER_00]: have a few command of fans in my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the book on him is he's going to get you with blocked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's not really explosive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like you say, he was there starter in air quotes, but him and Eccler kind of handled it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like was like the quintessential committee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Be Rob handled the first two downs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Ecuador was a third-town back with pretty much a defined roles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you have a guy like B-Rob as your RB one, you're going to be looking to replace him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, they were able to do that with Chris Rodriguez and our guy Bill, anybody who was a fantasy football player just come.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to cross be married.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has had a great preseason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's still a committee there, but they decided to go with younger cheaper guys and were able to get a draft pick where somebody who probably wasn't going to make their roster anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, it's for the forty-nineers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's you know, it's better than I would

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's too, it's a hot take to say that Brian Robinson is probably better than Jeff Wilson and to be able to get him for a, you know, for six round pit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is probably a good move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With Garendo, we don't know what his status will be especially in the next two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you don't want to go into the season with, I don't want to go into the season with Jeff Wilson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, nothing else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So at least they were able to solidify that position in between him and Garendo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It should be, it would be, you know, that, that's a RB II is not a, I don't know that it's necessarily a strength, but because I, you know, I've watched a lot of commandals football and, you know, these comparisons saying Kyle's got his new debo, which is just ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they, they went and got the real debo when they had Brian Robinson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, let you know that the, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two things very definitely doesn't see him as a debo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They might have, you know, thought that we would have might have hoped that that might.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just different kind of players, but yeah, it was a good move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that you necessarily would find somebody on the way or who's better than Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I mean, he

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[SPEAKER_00]: has been one of the best thirty two running backs hit the three year his three years in the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a good pick up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so as we look towards what do you when is cut that I forgot to look at that that day who's day at one o'clock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is coming to Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they got to get to they got to get to their number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then they're going to be probably making moves all the way up until next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even into the, you know, into the right before the game because I'm sure there's going to be lots of finagling with rosters in the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is going to be a super fun day to look on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I do wonder like I wonder how

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lynch in Shanahan are going to be doing this because and this is why football is so cutthroat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got all these young guys who could make the fifty three and you congratulate them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've watched enough hard knocks to see how that works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, both the congratulations and then, you know, just the broken heartedness of not making the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there might be guys who they go, you're part of the fifty three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then three days later, they may have to change their mind based on who's available.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't imagine that's an easy thing to do, but at the same time, you know, to be in that job with both of those dudes, you know, you probably just have to kind of get used to that idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that is something like, because you have guys who, I'm sure the Niners are going to try and sneak guys through the practice squad as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think the Hulk makes a team?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he might make it initially and it's been the last few years, you know, because ESPN has, you know, their masters say what you want about them and how they run their business, but they have done a great job of commoditizing all of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you've watched those shows, you know, NFL lives on or the cut down day specials,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has gotten to the point where teams do this game, and it's just being where they are, you know, not cutting guys to like right at the deadlines, you know, there'll be a rush of players who are available, because like you say with the hopes that maybe other players make moves, and they're able to kind of, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: team's able to sneak their guys through get them cleared and then either bring them back on a practice water bring them back on their roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's going I think that you're going to see a lot of job in this, you know, like you said in the.

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[SPEAKER_00]: after Tuesday in that next week after I don't think anybody can really, really feel safe until we get to the middle of week, you know, the first week of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, next week because I think that far after Tuesday you're still going to be seeing moves and joking and

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe even trades and all kinds of more so than maybe in years past.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is, I mean, this year again, like I just look at it as like this stars and scrubs and then to and I don't mean scrubbing it like a super pejorative way, but just the idea that because you have such a high dollar figure for players at certain positions, you have to

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[SPEAKER_01]: cut.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you have to have a lesser position player who's making a lot less money to counterbalance that when it comes to capsum.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is, it is very much like a fantasy football auction budget.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in that hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully they have some of these players who are not making a ton of money and can, you know, the rookie class, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to see a lot of Nick Martin and Nick Martin has made some plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got to see some seagull and he looks really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully some folks from that class are beneficial to this team and it allows them to really, you know, be able to have such a

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[SPEAKER_01]: crazy range in the salaries for these players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it really kind of, you know, it's one of those situations where rookies and rookie wage scale guys, I would think, you know, we talk about like, you know, we watch the NBA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It really, you know, with the second apron and all that is really what that has done in the NBA, it's really,

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[SPEAKER_00]: has made, you know, one of the unintended consequences in the NBA is that second round picks are now very important because those guys, you know, with your top heavy, you need those guys to hit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the more, you know, I know a lot, you know, you hear, hear people talk about having those dart throws, just kind of the same thing in the NFL that if you can get

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, these draft picks are important because if you can, um, the more of those picks you have, you can lock in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: even if they're just rotation level players and at minimum costs for four years as opposed to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it seems like with those eleven draft picks that we had this year that there was a concerted effort to try to get younger as of getting off of that veteran minimum roller coaster that we had been on with guys like

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[SPEAKER_00]: fluid and moldy columns and the light, those kind of players who are basically rotation players, but are at a veteran minimum, which is kind of even at times four times more than a rookie minimum.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you, the more those rookies and second-year players that you can get in, especially when you talk about a team like the forty-nine is who are top heavy,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The more those young guys you can hit on, it really is beneficial to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can offset guys who are at the top of their position, way to scale, if you can offset those with, you know, serviceable players who are making a million dollars, it really, really is beneficial.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so the Niners do not play next week, but we do want to have a show either next weekend or maybe before sometime during the week before the season starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we'll figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rod and I have to look at our schedules and figure when the best time is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but we'll be back to talk about the roster and to talk about some of those

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of those adjustments they may make the depth chart stuff the waiver wire pickups.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine that there's going to be lots and lots of moves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I almost don't even want to say let's record right after the roster because I don't imagine that the roster is going to be exactly the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll probably wait and be cautious before we get a good look at what the team is going to look like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, if you are watching on YouTube, the video that we did with Chris Allen is already up, so you can just look in the we want winners or Forty and Inner section, and you can see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was recorded last Thursday, so there's no brand robits and no skymore talk with that that happened before any of the deals that they've made.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So no talk about those guys, but lots of talk about

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kittle and Ricky Pearsaw and Brock Purdy and Chris McCaffrey and such.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So definitely anybody who's fantasy, fantasy relevant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did, I think we did a pretty good job of covering.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like Garrett said, we, I think we did with some just general fantasy football talk that was beneficial as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least, you know, I was, I thoroughly enjoyed nerding out with somebody who is easily the most knowledgeable person I've ever talked to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that physically literally talked to, you know, so it was a real treat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, you know, you should, he's well worth the follow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like he is suggesting, you hear the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everybody over there is fantasy life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are at the top of the food chain in terms of fantasy information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just a, you know, not very anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you, if you have even a tangential.

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[SPEAKER_00]: interest in fantasy football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know that he is kind of the goal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been the goal standard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, in that space.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it is career man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This dude wrote Matt Barry Matthew Barry wrote.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say was crocodile Dundee to like that or something that he wrote a crocodile Dundee movie and he was trying to make it in Hollywood.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as he was working in Hollywood,

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[SPEAKER_01]: he started doing fantasy football stuff and at some point he realized that his future was actually in fantasy football and not as a screenwriter and he joined ESPN and he had what was his website was the talented Mr. Roto that was his website and so then ESPN like bought his stuff and he worked at ESPN for many, many years before I think now he's at NBC Sports

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then he's also doing the fantasy life stuff on the side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you've heard any Matthewberry podcasts where he was a guest, his story about like getting people to invest in his website is actually pretty interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the, I think he got like Mav Carter and a bunch of different people to just invest in their latest round of funding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's into it, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he's so dialed into fantasy football stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Matthew, I really know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He really is, you know, and say what you will about, I mean, I don't, I haven't heard anybody who has anything negative to say about Matthew Barry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, he's just great, but, you know, I, I play him in that same category of Mel Kai for whom, you know, whom I don't always agree with, but I respect the hell out of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you talk about somebody who created a lane for himself out of full cloth,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've always had just the tremendous respect and have been inspired by, you know, guys like that who, you know, like, you know, Mel Piper is, and again, I don't, you know, I don't really, I don't watch Mel Piper and like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Try to, you know, tell me he got right or wrong or whatever idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I just marvel at the fact that, you know, he was at the forefront of this analysis thing and it was he was a guy who was literally back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I go way way back with ESPN radio and he was a guy who was literally working out of his basement producing a newsletter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And became, you know, he became the the draft guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was the first

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really, you know, there are a lot of draft guys now, but he was, there's no question that Mel Kaifer was the first national draft guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he created that lane on a whole clock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just, it's inspiring to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Matthew Barry, I think, is of that same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, for we get out or for we move, get out of here on video and move on to the audio on podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you watched any of the Dallas Cowboys Netflix thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you, you know, I know how forty nine of fans feel about the Cowboys because, you know, I shared that feeling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we are an integral part of that story because we, you know, you know, I don't care how you feel about them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't talk about those ninety's teams without talking about the Cowboys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were

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[SPEAKER_00]: our Nemesis Center.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so we are, you know, so it was, it was good to, because those are mostly good times for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, obviously their rise, you know, was, you know, we, it was bad for, you know, several years until, you know, we were able to turn the table

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[SPEAKER_00]: on them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's always kind of glorious to relive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's really well made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we have our team has a pretty significant role in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just started episode three, which is starts with the ninety two NFC title game and Jerry Rice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of there's a lot of heartbreak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no question is a lot of because obviously any Cowboys success was pretty much at our expense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if anybody who was there remembers that those NFC champions, hip games were de facto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: championship games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, those were, you know, in most cases, the AFC was an afterthought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about this because I was trying to tell somebody who remembers that stuff, but, you know, not very well, and I was saying how

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[SPEAKER_01]: the ninety two ninety three and ninety four NFC title games felt so big that I can't remember another sports event that felt that big until and talk about heartbreak

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[SPEAKER_01]: Warriors Cavs game seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the only other thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the Warriors finals were really big, but they didn't have that backs up against the wall where football's only one game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you're like, I can replay this game a hundred times in my mind, but there's only one outcome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so game seven, Warriors Cavs is the only thing that I, that is kind of like that now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a Giants, you know, Royals game seven Madison Bumgarner, but the Royals are where the Royals, they weren't like, if it was like Giants Dodgers, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then yeah, then that's there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Niners Cowboys was there was nothing bigger in my late teens or, you know, mid to late teens than Niners Cowboys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I literally would like

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[SPEAKER_01]: think up scenarios in my mind about how the Niners had to start this game so that they would not fall behind and then allow the Cowboys to just, you know, ride Emmett to the whole thing, you know, because that was whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they just ride Emmett with the lead and there's almost nothing that we could do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there was like nothing bigger than Niners Cowboys when I was younger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was so, it was

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[SPEAKER_00]: that that is such a great analogy that warriors game seven because for me that when I always when I think about to that cap series and it was like

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[SPEAKER_00]: make a slow skid on black ice and it's like we're up three one and then we are then dream on gets suspended and it's like you can kind of just see the car crash on the way and it's just like there was you know you talk about

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[SPEAKER_00]: The analogy to me is similar in that you knew how if they were able to get up on us you just knew how this was going to play out and then once they got even it's like oh no this is not good and you know one game

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's a analogy there between LeBron and Emmett and how inevitable, you know, a fourth quarterly with there was an inevitability that that fourth quarterly was with those cowboys teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you knew what the recipe was going to be if they were up by ten.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the fourth quarter, you knew what it was going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to be a steady diet in the Smith and you knew you're probably going to be able to stop it kind of like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in a one game scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The bronze James is terrifying.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, at that point in his career by the time we get to two thousand sixteen, you know, that guy was he was, you know, a game record and there was nothing we could do and that is just kind of heartbreaking as a fan to kind of watch your team in those situations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, and then you're getting to

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're getting the ninety two, but then, you know, we know now we know that, you know, the tables are going to turn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll get one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We get one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the, the, even if you stop like, let's say they run him at twice and let's say he gets seven yards and it's third and three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then, and this was more than ninety three game if I'm remembering correctly than the ninety two game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They would pass and Troy would just dump off to Emmett and I imagine Bill Romanowski still has nightmares of having to try and cover Emmett Smith out of the backfield because Romanowski

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[SPEAKER_01]: basically is gone after that ninety three title game because of how much how much he was abused out of the backfield and then they brought in, you know, some other linebackers can norton junior who came from the cowboys and such because they needed to be a little bit more athletic in in the middle there, but yeah, just fascinating stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I after

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to get through some more and maybe we'll have more comments on on another show to talk about it because it's just again nothing bigger in my lifetime than Niners Cowboys when it came to two teams and then previous that which we talked about last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Joe and Steve like nothing dominated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: various sports talk more than Joe versus Steve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What what I tell you what that's is funny.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was that's exactly where my mind goes when you think of that it's like how

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, in Steve Young was legitimate and he was he's a Hall of Fame regardless, but how the narrative changes if we don't get it done in ninety four, how the narrative around Steve Young, how we talk about him changes because, you know, he was, you know, I find it fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You look at a guy like Lamar now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, can't get it done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was Steve Young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Steve Young couldn't win the big one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it's the classic Gary Plummer, you know, taking the monkey off his back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just because that was the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, in the context of the forty nine of Spear, when you talking about the comparison to Joe Montana, who never lost one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just, you know, if he doesn't get

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[SPEAKER_00]: at least one, you know, it, you know, obviously he was a great player, but it obviously stains his legacy if he doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he's not able to, if he goes to the championship three times and, you know, doesn't get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It, it just, it, that was a huge not only victory for the franchise, but him individually as a player too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want to welcome Chris Allen from fantasy life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, Chris, I know Matthew Barry from back in the day because I used to listen to fantasy focus, the ESPN podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so like as from as early as I remember him doing that show, like I've been a Matthew Barry guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he went from ESPN and now he's at NBC, but fantasy life is like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is his baby and you are you are writing for fantasy life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is your window to joining the team, the Matthew Barry team or at fantasy life?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So my intro to all of this is, well, similar to you to be quite honest, I've been a Matthew Berry guy since I first got into fantasy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we were talking before we started recording here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I started playing fantasy football around the twenty, eleven, twenty, twelve time frame.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And really, there wasn't too much content out there, at least, that I was aware of.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was new to just the game in and of itself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember I just got completely beat down my first lead that I joined.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I wanted to find out more about the strategy behind it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What what are the mechanisms in order to get better at it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So on and so forth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I stumbled across upon this Matthew Barry guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was listening to the same thing, the O six O one O podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, just weakened and weak out trying to find out more about the players, the strategies and all of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Fast forward, about ten years or so, I was maybe four or five years into producing content of my own, working for a few different sites.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was at four football and BC football guys and a few others.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I ran into an old colleague of mine by the name of Elliott Christ, Elliott Nye, we

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[SPEAKER_02]: came across each other once we were working at four for four and he told me that he was starting a newsletter and it was going to be head up by Matthew Barry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, how can I say no?

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[SPEAKER_02]: How can you turn down an opportunity like that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so being able to get in on essentially the ground floor of a small company, just a newsletter at the time and seeing it blossom into where it's at right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: deals with LGTV live shows, all of that, the content behind it, all the products, the utilization report that's provided by Dwayne McFarlane, seeing shows with in-hard it's, and of course Matthew Freeman bringing on the betting, Thorne Isstrom, who's doing the draft content.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, so many, so many other large names and people that are

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[SPEAKER_02]: producing content with mainstream now all at this one central area.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm just a writer there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just so much fun seeing this whole thing kind of blossom into where it's at right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And very appreciative of what Matthew has done, not just for me, but for this entire industry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know for folks that might be listening to this that might have read his latest love hate column saying that this is last year doing love hate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and he's going to be moving on to just more of the podcast and the TV stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So kind of an end of an era, but still one where he's essentially, let's say evolving his contributions to the interest industry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So hats off to him and very much appreciative for this opportunity that I've been able to provide within the fantasy life umbrella.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of amazing that he was still doing the writing because I know he's doing so many other things and the writing probably takes him the longest to do out of anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've seen that, I've seen that lean from a lot of writers who move into podcasting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can just get so many more thoughts out in a quicker fashion in a podcast than you can writing it down so that makes a lot of sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think most people know whether you use ESPN's website to create your league or Yahoo or CBS Sports line or and there's so many sleepers out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of people like sleeper now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So explain what fantasy life is to people who kind of don't know what the difference is between all these different things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And for anybody that has those general questions, let's say, for instance, if you're completely new to fantasy in and of itself, the amount of content and tools that are available, what at least bring you in at the ground level and say, well, what is what are, let's say, even areas.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say if you're listening to a podcast and you hear all of these statistics and advanced metrics that get tossed out and you wanted to have an understanding of what some of those metrics are.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There could be articles available.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are articles available because I know because I wrote most of them about some of those things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or even if it's from a strategy standpoint, let's say you're kind of, let's say this is your second or third year doing fantasy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you want to have a better understanding of, well, I've heard about this methodology called zero RB or robust RB or here RB.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's strategy articles around that too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say you've gotten in deep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You've gone midway down the rabbit hole and there are these other formats that you've heard of, not even just

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[SPEAKER_02]: read draft or your typical managed leagues, but there's diacy leagues and individual defensive player IDP leagues are best ball and you wanted to find out and dip your toes into into those streets as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are articles and podcasts trying to delve into the ins and outs of each of those and that's essentially what fancy life does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We bring in all that

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[SPEAKER_02]: experts from every corner of the content sphere that is fantasy football and provide you with not just the in depth, let's get into the weeds, numbers, data analytics and trying to shove all that down your throat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I mean, of course, that's important and that's part of my background.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm an engineer by trade, but also the let's let's start at the high level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's break things down into these digestible chunks so that as you learn more, there are more there's more content available for you to consume to help any user at any level and any understanding of the game, be able to become a bit more comfortable with fantasy football.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not just that, it's not just about the content and whether it's the articles or the video formats, but it's also the tools you have your leasing tool available.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if there is something about your league that is special, let's say, even if it's just your typical half-point PPR league or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you wanted to be able to sync that and have our rankings and tiers so that it will help guide you through your draft, you can do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you wanted to do mock drafts, we have a draft draft champion tool that allow you to simulate mock drafts based off of your league's tendencies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can set up each of the different bots or whatever within there, whether you can say this person's more aggressive or whatever, in order to help you get a better feel for how your draft is going to unfold.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to learn more about player utilization, I'll just mention Lane McFarlane's utilization reports.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can dive a bit more deeper into how each player is used and figure out how to value them differently.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All of that to say, it's not just about content, it's not just about tools, it's everything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anything that you would have a question about, even down to if you just have general questions, you want to ask us directly, have a discord channel so that you can have access to us on a relatively frequent basis.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you want to ask some of those questions,

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's, it's entire universe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a, it's a whole world that we've been able to create under the Fantasy F and Brella.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So whether it's from content, whether it's the tools, whether it's just general access to us via the discord, fantasy life is able to provide all of those things in a sense that regardless of your age or applicability or level of interest into fantasy football, we're there to provide that for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So talk about real quick, because I thought the sink, sinking your account, how does that work?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I do, I have two different leagues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They go way back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of them goes back to like, nineteen, ninety-eight, and the other one goes back to ninety-nine or two thousand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So these are like historically, because I've been playing in for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of them is on ESPN, one of them is on Yahoo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How does this HQ sink work?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So for my understanding, the HQ sink will allow you to put in your information to say that this is my particular league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then afterwards, once it's one sure synced up, it allows you to almost like side by side comparison.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, okay, here is my, my league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And let's say you're drafting on Yahoo.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But after the software or the tools behind the scenes allow you to, once that's that up, you're now connected in a sense that you're now being able to see our tears and rankings compared to what Yahoo is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or if it's on ESPN, same deal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So instead of seeing the default rankings and tears from ESPN, you're seeing that side by side comparison to what we have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not necessarily having to flip back and forth between the two things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're able to see almost essentially, all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, Christian McCaffrey on ESPN's, on ESPN's rankings, he's ranked that, let's say, tenth or eleventh overall.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm looking at the rankings over here on fans' life and Duane McFarlane and Ian Hartitz and Matthew Friedman have in rank six or seventh.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I should be able to snack him and a value.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's all of that just that you're able to essentially translate some of the inherent values or average draft.

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[SPEAKER_02]: cost that are inherent to the site itself and see how you can essentially hack that particular website so that you can get the most value out of it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it is something of a huge help for drafters, especially because you're in the moment having to make those decisions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that tool can essentially provide you that information without the flipping back and forth like that type of thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's get to some questions about some players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's obviously this is a forty-nineer's podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll start with kind of thoughts about some of the forty-nineer's players, an enrod chime in at whenever you like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So last year,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Christian McCaffrey was a top lots and lots of draft boards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Rod and I were a little frustrated with the lack of communication coming out of forty-nine or zhq about whether or not McCaffrey was healthy, what the injury was really about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I almost felt like now this is gamesmanship in the NFL world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't exactly understand how it works because there were lots of

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure laid on the Niners early in the season, but they seemed, you know, if we take them for face value, they didn't know the severity, blah, blah, blah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It definitely felt like, hmm, they probably think it's worse than we think it's, we think it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they don't care about fantasy leagues, obviously, but, you know, there's Christians going a top, lots and lots of leagues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I sense that there's a little bit of a weiriness with

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[SPEAKER_01]: and information coming out, especially because you have guys like Joanne Jennings who is holding out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh pop that not holding out, but he he may not be playing because he he wants his conjecture done or he's got a calf injury and I don't know where people sort of sit on that and you have some some other players who who are similar in that vein like when it comes to forty and honors players forty and honors players and fantasy should

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fantasy owners be weary of forty-nine or players this year, just based on the lack of information coming out of Santa Clara.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's fair to have some sense of hesitation before making the click on any of them, just given their relative cost.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll start off with Christian McAfrey.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, he has a, let's say, mid to late-ish round average draft cost.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going off the board at around, let's say, the RB-four RB-five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So from that standpoint, I can understand folks looking to other players around his draft cost.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say before the injury news started to come out about Devon H and running back for the dolphins, I can see people wanting to click on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you even wanted to pull up a guy like Derek Henry from the second round, I can understand that because of his

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[SPEAKER_02]: pension for running through running through defensive lines and the work that he gets involved more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But even if you wanted to switch positions and go to one of the wide receiver, it's typically drafted on, I can understand that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But at least for me, the way that I've been looking at Christian McAfrey is that while, yes, I completely share your frustration from how even

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[SPEAKER_02]: Coach Kyle Shanahan delivered some of the news after the week one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say scandal or mix up or whatever because I still remember coming into the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, he was going to play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember even hearing Christian McAfrey talking in the middle of August.

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[SPEAKER_02]: during preseason of last year, saying that, oh, he would have played if there was going to be a game that particular weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, he sits out week one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's still trying to get back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We don't see him until week ten.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But then, of course, the Jordan Mason interview after week one, saying he was told on Friday that he was going to play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so all of the all of this, saying there's something rotten in the state of Denmark, but still what they did then, but now let's compare that to the things that the foreigners are telling us, even without saying anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: George Mason specifically gone from the team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The one that they trusted the most before he got injured around the week, six this time frame with a soldier injury was performing at least the primary role of Christian McCaffrey as both the Russia and receiving portions of Christian McCaffrey's workload.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's gone from the Vikings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's gone to the Vikings rather.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The forty-nineers waited until day three in order to address the running back position.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if this was a team that was concerned about what Christian McAfrey was going to be able to contribute now on his age twenty nine season, especially after the injury, real season just had in twenty twenty four, I would think that they would either bring in more free agents and or address it be the draft neither of those things happened.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now that's also look at.

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[SPEAKER_02]: how they treated Christian McAfrey when he came back for those three-ish games where he was healthy because he injured himself midway through that bill's game when they were playing in the snow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When he came back, first game, I mean, he was the primary rusher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't see him mix in with Isaac Garendo or anything like that, absolutely not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jordan McAfrey, he ran most of the routes for that team, at least from a running back standpoint, got the primary workload as a rusher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was essentially back to the same bot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The only issue was the efficiency

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[SPEAKER_02]: wasn't there, which I can understand coming off of by lateral Achilles tendonitis hadn't seen any particular like live action for almost two and a half months.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can see why he might have been a little slow and getting back to form.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So all that to say, it to me the way that Christian McAfrey performed, or at least the amount of work he was able to get once he came back, also what the team has done throughout the off season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, all the current training camp reports of him being the healthiest person

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[SPEAKER_02]: on the offense right now, you mentioned it yourself.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Juan Jennings is hurt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Brandon, are you?

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[SPEAKER_02]: No time table left for at least on the on the on the map for him to return from his ACL tear.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Any of the Ricky Pierce all still working his way back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, they have been more positive reports in that nature.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Russell Gage hurt.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How what other players, I mean, it's just funny to me that out of all the players that we were thinking were going to either replace him or take some of the work called off of him, they've all now have those injury concerns.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So for him specifically, I am looking to him as one of the guys that I would want to target.

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[SPEAKER_02]: in the early rounds, or especially at his current draft costs in the middle of the first round, just given the amount of opportunity he has received in the past, and also what we can project just to give in the injury risk around the entire forty-nineers offense for twenty- twenty-five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The my favorite player on the Niners to try and sneak on one of my teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think Brock Perty

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a more of a tendency to run a little bit last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that that meant he was running for touchdowns as much necessarily if he does actually sneak out for touchdowns.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a more valuable player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you mentioned him, Rod and I call him pretty ricky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty ricky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peer saw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My worry, not only as a Forty and Enders fan, but also as a fantasy player is if if Joanne Jennings and or Brandon I, you can not on the field,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pretty Ricky gets a little bit more attention from whomever they believe the other team believes is their their top defensive back and I think as a

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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one wide receiver he has so much lesser value because his problem seems to be kind of getting off a line of skirmish and and getting through some of the tougher coverage is what do you what do you see for Ricky I sense that and I've seen some stuff where it looks like people probably have a similar idea is me of that you know he's he's probably a good bet to have a pretty solid year

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think my reason for being scared is probably a little bit different from others just because I know this team very well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think some people think like, oh, if he's going to be the number one receiver, that means he's going to get more targets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my fear is if he's the number one receiver, he's going to get bottled up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be other guys who are going to get in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are your thoughts on Pearson?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's fair to have that type of concern.

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[SPEAKER_02]: My general thought process would be for Kyle Shanahan specifically is that you can have a number of wide receivers, like whether it's going to be, well, theoretically it would have been Damarka's Robinson that would have been able to play the outside and this is a time that

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[SPEAKER_02]: term coined by Matt Harmon, who does excellent work at reception perception, who does wide receiver evaluation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You got like the Marcus Robins can play the sacrificial X receiver role.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Essentially, the guy that's out there running wind sprints, getting his cardio in, but allows him to take away not just the top coverage from the defense, but also require some level of safety help over the top.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But of course, with the PED suspension that D-Rob is going to have to face, I think he's going to be out for three games, if I remember incorrectly, that at least negates some of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But still, let's say in an ideal world, you have somebody that's able to play on the outside, and then, of course, Ricky Perisauk and it is able to play on the interior.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's where you can get at least somewhat softer coverage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For a lot of opposing defenses, a lot of them will structure their defense so that their perimeter corners are their strongest.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then once you get into the nickel position, it's either safety that walks down to do some of that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, they do have a nickel corner, but relative to the other guys that pull on the outside, they're not as always good, at least from a skill standpoint or talent perspective.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So seeing the idea of having Ricky Peer saw who in a few circles that I follow, Peer saw was comp to Cooper Cup in his ability to run routes and able and has that level of agility to make those cuts and have that type of rapport with a quarterback so that he can run some of those dig routes, those timing routes,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Whereas, especially, a quarterback like Brock Hardy, who has been able to show, he can operate in that type of fashion, could make those, uh, that type of connection with a, with a wide receiver like Ricky Pierce all, but also the fact that we've seen throughout the entirety of Kyle Shanahan as a, as a play designer, he does like to access the mill to field so that his wide receivers can work after the catch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, yes, I share you concern in that the coverage might be a little tougher, but in the way that Shannon Hannes be able to scheme up players and with the way that Pierce saw it, even after he came back from the gunshot wound towards the back end of last season, you can see a scenario where he does play a little bit more from the interior, whether it's like a pure slot or least closely or more closely aligned to the formation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: is able to get one of the softer coverage or one of the lesser defenders like from the opposing defense, then also works across the field so that even if he is working in the short to intermediate parts of the field, he can work after the catch in order to generate some more yards.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's getting the targets, he's getting the catches, which is for folks that play in half point and full point PPR leagues, you're getting production that way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then if he's still able to pick up yards after the catch, which we do know from his athletic profile, he does have a little bit of burst in him so that he can at least get to the second level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not gonna say he's gonna break along one like a George Kittle type, but still pick up the yards necessary to at least have a

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good enough performance for relative to where he's being drafted right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen eighth, ninth-ish round in some PPR leagues, which to me is fair for his relative role like to the team and also to the other wide receiver shafted around him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That at least for where he's being drafted right now, he does seem like a guy that I'd be fine having him as my wide receiver four, wide receiver five, depending on how many more I've drafted earlier in my draft.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then afterwards, let's see what happens when Brandon and I you get back on the field.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see what happens when some of the other wide receivers are back healthy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see, let's hope and assume that that offensive line gels together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Brock Perti isn't running for his life and scrambling as often he was in twenty twenty four.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And let's see this passing offense get back to her.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was at in twenty twenty two and twenty three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Ricky Piersock and really out kick is his draft cost as it is right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, Brad, you got one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I came into the season and nothing has really changed my feeling on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I, in looking at what's going on, the soap opera that has unfolded, you know, with BA, it being confirmed he's not going to be here until at least weeks six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you want Jennings situation, you know, be it hold in or injury?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have thought

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[SPEAKER_00]: since like February that this like stacks up to be like George kiddo, two thousand nineteen version two where he was basically the ex the de facto ex and was a target monster and I just think that it sets up for that to be the case and the George especially

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[SPEAKER_00]: where he's coming off board.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now is a, is a, a bye-bye.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I want all the George Kiddlestop guy to get if I could get him at the three or four term.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, a hundred percent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think for where, for how George Kiddlestop crews a lot of his, a lot of, a lot of the volume that he's been able to get with Brock Purdy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's not just the fact that he gets the, it's the targets.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so for people that are drafting,

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[SPEAKER_02]: tight ends in the earlier parts of your drafts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say within rounds one through six, you're looking for the guys that are going to be having around a twenty-us percent target share and or higher.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so for reference, about twenty percent target share, that's equates to about a wide receiver to one a team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So thank you all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Your T-higgins is a stinkier, devontous smits like those types of players.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Essentially, you're looking for a tie-in that's cost-playing as a wide receiver.

01:00:18.759 --> 01:00:28.625
[SPEAKER_02]: They only difference between a pass-catching tie-in and a decent or wide receiver to or top twenty four wide receiver is their designation or their position designation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's really the only difference.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And for George Kittle, that's pretty much been the case over the last three to four years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And especially since Brock Cardi, that came the starter for the forty-niners.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, last three seasons, last three seasons alone, he's had eighteen point nine percent target share, seventeen percent, nineteen percent, eighteen percent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he's

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[SPEAKER_02]: up there competing with the wide receivers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, with the tight ends that are typically drafted around him too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So looking at how he's been able to accrue volume, and it's also the receiving that the YRT's been able to generate from that standpoint last season, about seventy three, seventy four yards per game that's first among all tight ends.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm completely with you, Rod.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you are looking to essentially wait,

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[SPEAKER_02]: And let's say you're towards the let's say your draft thought is around the six seventh eight somewhere in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you'll see Brock Bowers go either in the first or early parts of the second round, Tramic Bride shortly shortly after him, then trying to target a guy like George Kittle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: shortly afterwards is completely viable in my mind because it not only allows you to get the value of a past catcher like George Kittle and as we were just talking about the injuries to the other wide receivers or other past catchers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That are attached to the forty-nine hours offense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, really right now, the only two healthy receivers for Brock party are George Kiddell and Christian McAfrey.

01:01:52.811 --> 01:01:58.813
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we're assuming pure saw is going to be ready for week one, but of course, that's been trending in the right direction, but we have it.

01:01:58.873 --> 01:02:01.093
[SPEAKER_02]: We do not sure that's going to be the case for week one.

01:02:01.133 --> 01:02:04.194
[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, the only two guys that we know for sure that are going to be available.

01:02:04.534 --> 01:02:06.155
[SPEAKER_02]: our CMC and George Kittle.

01:02:06.495 --> 01:02:19.182
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I can get that level that type of concentrated volume and what we know to be a efficient offense or efficiently design offense from Kyle Shanahan and we see George Kittle operate as an efficient

01:02:19.982 --> 01:02:24.447
[SPEAKER_02]: were receiver with the yards after the catch, and also being able to generate explosive plays.

01:02:24.707 --> 01:02:36.820
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, the connection that Hammond and Brock currently have once they get into the red zone, seeing him as a third round, third-ish round tight end is very viable from that standpoint.

01:02:36.860 --> 01:02:40.604
[SPEAKER_02]: And I would be more than happy to make that click if I see him available in my drafts as well.

01:02:41.791 --> 01:02:49.396
[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously, if you draft Christian McCaffrey, you are doing so with the hope that he is healthy.

01:02:49.976 --> 01:02:58.082
[SPEAKER_01]: But I also, you also gonna want to make sure you have somebody hand cuff to him more than likely.

01:02:59.122 --> 01:03:04.126
[SPEAKER_01]: We don't even really know, like Grendo, he was hurt a lot last year.

01:03:05.200 --> 01:03:08.422
[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine that is the worry about him this year.

01:03:09.583 --> 01:03:11.044
[SPEAKER_01]: They drafted a running back.

01:03:12.305 --> 01:03:17.709
[SPEAKER_01]: They just, they just signed Jeff Wilson Jr., who is a OG, Forty-Niner.

01:03:18.210 --> 01:03:31.319
[SPEAKER_01]: Like, it doesn't seem like there's great opportunity for, you know, a really solid handcuff yet, but is, is Garendo probably the, the likely sky that you would try and match him up with if you did draft CMC.

01:03:32.200 --> 01:03:39.964
[SPEAKER_02]: I think so you could make the case for Jordan James just because of the athletic profile for remembering correctly, it's about five, ten, two, five.

01:03:40.004 --> 01:03:44.326
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's in the Bucky Irving Chase Brown that that type of mold.

01:03:44.366 --> 01:04:00.814
[SPEAKER_02]: So you just have like the same weight that you would want to see for a guy that if Christian McAfrey, I'll knock on wood for my own sanity, if he were to go down, could Jordan James pick up all of the workload and could he essentially be the running back option that's there on early downs.

01:04:01.154 --> 01:04:03.096
[SPEAKER_02]: is he also going to be the receiving option?

01:04:03.336 --> 01:04:06.378
[SPEAKER_02]: And can he also operate in short yard of situations?

01:04:06.398 --> 01:04:12.202
[SPEAKER_02]: Because that's what CMC has been able, that's what Kyle Shannon has afforded Christian McCaffrey in previous years.

01:04:12.582 --> 01:04:22.730
[SPEAKER_02]: But for Jordan James, I could see at least the early downwork, but potentially the receiving portion he does have a little bit of that profile from college about seven, eight percent target share when he is back in college.

01:04:23.150 --> 01:04:26.072
[SPEAKER_02]: So I can see more of a committee between him and Garendo.

01:04:26.353 --> 01:04:28.274
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I am looking to pair,

01:04:29.955 --> 01:04:33.897
[SPEAKER_02]: Christian McCaffrey with one of the running backs that might have some contingent value.

01:04:34.217 --> 01:04:43.421
[SPEAKER_02]: I have tended towards Garendo, but that's just because we've seen him in action before when it when it was Jordan Mason that went down towards the back end of last season.

01:04:43.741 --> 01:04:48.763
[SPEAKER_02]: Garendo did have at least have some contingency as both the short garners option.

01:04:49.103 --> 01:05:15.549
[SPEAKER_02]: was running around on around like thirty to forty percent of the team's drop-back so at least he was out there playing the role of receiver like you would want to see from Christian McCaffrey did earn as many targets but at the very least if he becomes that that pass-catching option for Brock Curtie at least it provides him at least a floor a potential floor for him from a fantasy standpoint so i can see either way i've just been leaning more towards granux i've seen it in the past but if somebody said hey

01:05:16.349 --> 01:05:17.710
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen Jordan James run.

01:05:17.750 --> 01:05:23.474
[SPEAKER_02]: I just watched all of his college tape that dude can pop once he gets the workload more than happy to go along with it.

01:05:23.494 --> 01:05:25.435
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not going to fight you about that at all.

01:05:25.715 --> 01:05:32.240
[SPEAKER_02]: I can see it from either standpoint, but just knowing the fact that you are investing in what should be an efficient offense.

01:05:32.300 --> 01:05:33.721
[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's where it lies for me.

01:05:34.061 --> 01:05:37.843
[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be willing to take shots on either of the guys just because we know that the opportunity is there.

01:05:38.144 --> 01:05:43.067
[SPEAKER_02]: It should be productive touches for who everyone's taking over the backfield in place of Christian McAfee.

01:05:45.176 --> 01:05:59.659
[SPEAKER_00]: Chris, we kind of just touched on it, but just as a, I got your link, Garrett sent over your link and I really love your point of view in terms of writing.

01:05:59.860 --> 01:06:09.002
[SPEAKER_00]: And it just, several of your articles were like speaking directly to me, it just as it works out for my first team that I took.

01:06:09.402 --> 01:06:14.303
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, one of the criticism, I know when you, your online or in a discord, when you,

01:06:14.803 --> 01:06:19.606
[SPEAKER_00]: put your draft out there, you are opening yourself for slings and arrows.

01:06:19.966 --> 01:06:40.838
[SPEAKER_00]: But one of, I think, valid criticisms of my draft is that by second running back off the board, I took Chase Brown and then I came back with Kenneth Walker that I probably should have been a bit more aggressive with handcuffing Zack Sharberney.

01:06:42.149 --> 01:06:59.212
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably a fair criticism, but just as a rule, how do you feel about handcuffs and how aggressively do you seek them out?

01:07:00.284 --> 01:07:05.867
[SPEAKER_02]: Typically for me, my approach has been to draft other people's handcuffs and not my own.

01:07:06.388 --> 01:07:13.472
[SPEAKER_02]: Because if I'm looking at it from a standpoint of, I'm looking for players that are going to be able to help my team weaken and weak out.

01:07:14.112 --> 01:07:16.894
[SPEAKER_02]: And also, that's one portion of it.

01:07:17.134 --> 01:07:20.356
[SPEAKER_02]: But the other portion of it is I'm going to draft like I'm right.

01:07:20.856 --> 01:07:31.386
[SPEAKER_02]: So, Rod, if you drafted, get a blocker, you should be drafting it, especially considering he has a, he had a fourth to fifth round average draft price.

01:07:31.707 --> 01:07:42.017
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, of course, with his foot injury that's been kicking him out of the preseason, Zack Sharbernay operating fairly well in that new zone blocking offense for Clinton Kubiak.

01:07:42.537 --> 01:07:48.962
[SPEAKER_02]: I can see a scenario where now folks are going to devalue Walker and start to up the value for a guy like Zack Sharberney.

01:07:49.242 --> 01:07:57.249
[SPEAKER_02]: But in either case, in that scenario where you're drafting him, I would want to draft Ken and Walker saying that that's going to be my RB two.

01:07:57.529 --> 01:07:58.830
[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to be the RB one.

01:07:59.250 --> 01:08:01.512
[SPEAKER_02]: Zack Sharberney is not going to take over the back field.

01:08:01.552 --> 01:08:03.273
[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not going to have to worry about it.

01:08:03.594 --> 01:08:04.534
[SPEAKER_02]: But the same time.

01:08:05.335 --> 01:08:07.258
[SPEAKER_02]: understanding that that could potentially happen.

01:08:07.458 --> 01:08:09.822
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll be looking for other people's handcuffs.

01:08:10.102 --> 01:08:14.328
[SPEAKER_02]: So let's say the person that drafted Caleb Johnson, rookie running back for the Pittsburgh Steelers.

01:08:14.789 --> 01:08:16.011
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking for Jalen Warren.

01:08:16.371 --> 01:08:18.715
[SPEAKER_02]: Somebody drafts Aaron Jones for the Minnesota Vikings.

01:08:19.115 --> 01:08:20.217
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm looking for Jordan Mason.

01:08:21.558 --> 01:08:26.541
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just looking at what the other contingent value is for the other guys.

01:08:26.961 --> 01:08:29.763
[SPEAKER_02]: That is how I try and stock up my running back room.

01:08:30.043 --> 01:08:35.165
[SPEAKER_02]: Because I don't want to try and figure out, well, which week is it going to be that I'm going to start Kenneth Walker or Zack Sharbanet?

01:08:35.546 --> 01:08:37.407
[SPEAKER_02]: I've got too many other things I have to worry about.

01:08:38.047 --> 01:08:47.292
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I can worry about fewer things and then it's on top of all that, I now have the, let's say somebody else is back up because Caleb Johnson went down.

01:08:47.712 --> 01:08:49.174
[SPEAKER_02]: or Aaron Jones is now down.

01:08:49.234 --> 01:08:51.737
[SPEAKER_02]: And now I have that contingent running back on my roster.

01:08:51.757 --> 01:08:55.421
[SPEAKER_02]: Now I essentially have it at the very least a top twenty four running back sitting on my bench.

01:08:56.082 --> 01:08:59.426
[SPEAKER_02]: So much to better for me versus having to play those games off.

01:08:59.746 --> 01:09:00.928
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, who's going to be this week?

01:09:00.968 --> 01:09:01.989
[SPEAKER_02]: Is it going to be Ken Walker?

01:09:02.009 --> 01:09:03.991
[SPEAKER_02]: It's actually hard when they look pretty good last week too.

01:09:04.772 --> 01:09:06.033
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to have to play those games.

01:09:06.954 --> 01:09:16.940
[SPEAKER_02]: So for drafting handcuffs, instead of trying to draft two out of the same backfield, I'm simply looking for one out of one backfield and then trying to get everybody else.

01:09:17.060 --> 01:09:29.849
[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm getting the Jalen Warrens, the Tajay Spears, even though Spears have been hurt in preseason, I recognize that, or the Jordan Mason, or the Ray Davises, or the Braillean Owlins, or the Bacial Tutans, or the Tank Biggs Bests,

01:09:30.249 --> 01:09:34.597
[SPEAKER_02]: content that is every other backfield that you can think of.

01:09:34.998 --> 01:09:41.951
[SPEAKER_02]: I want the RB to out of that backfield to supplement all of my decisions from our starting running backs in their earlier rounds.

01:09:42.759 --> 01:09:44.260
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking for this year's book here.

01:09:45.001 --> 01:09:46.622
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, that's it.

01:09:47.122 --> 01:09:47.583
[SPEAKER_01]: That's it.

01:09:47.943 --> 01:09:48.363
[SPEAKER_01]: You got it.

01:09:48.383 --> 01:10:08.378
[SPEAKER_01]: So I had a question from somebody who plays with Rod and I, and he said, is there any worry about Puka because of the, and this is kind of similar to the Niners last year with the, the Stafford stuff like, you know, how worried are you about Stafford?

01:10:08.398 --> 01:10:09.258
[SPEAKER_01]: And if,

01:10:10.319 --> 01:10:15.643
[SPEAKER_01]: There is a chance that Jimmy G or Stetson is the guy.

01:10:15.983 --> 01:10:17.765
[SPEAKER_01]: Does that drop Puka down a bit?

01:10:19.166 --> 01:10:22.409
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, not particularly at this point.

01:10:23.469 --> 01:10:26.652
[SPEAKER_02]: If they're just because right now, what is it?

01:10:26.692 --> 01:10:36.780
[SPEAKER_02]: Day two or day three that we've seen Matthew Stafford back at practice and with everything out of the Rams camp, even though Sean McVay was being a little coy.

01:10:37.240 --> 01:10:45.725
[SPEAKER_02]: About how he was reporting some of the Matthew Stafford injury stuff a couple of weeks ago, but let's assume that at this point everything is moving in the right direction.

01:10:46.385 --> 01:10:54.669
[SPEAKER_02]: But I would say that at the, let's say the early parts of the season week six, week seven, or like first couple of months, let's say no concern from that standpoint.

01:10:54.970 --> 01:10:59.112
[SPEAKER_02]: Do I have concerns about what the longevity of his health is going to be?

01:10:59.412 --> 01:11:00.012
[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

01:11:00.232 --> 01:11:01.233
[SPEAKER_02]: Matthew Stafford is what?

01:11:01.693 --> 01:11:06.976
[SPEAKER_02]: Thirty-seven, thirty-eight already had multiple back injuries, neck injuries, things of that nature.

01:11:06.996 --> 01:11:13.639
[SPEAKER_02]: They've had to either miss time for or has spent the larger part of off-season's having to rehab from, I mean, hundred percent.

01:11:14.199 --> 01:11:16.620
[SPEAKER_02]: That is, that is a concern of mine.

01:11:16.800 --> 01:11:18.141
[SPEAKER_02]: And the same thing with Pook and Akua.

01:11:18.181 --> 01:11:20.162
[SPEAKER_02]: That was going back to college.

01:11:20.382 --> 01:11:22.983
[SPEAKER_02]: His college coaches have noted the fact that he would just

01:11:23.423 --> 01:11:47.533
[SPEAKER_02]: throw himself in a harmless way almost literally put his body on the line in order to make some of the catches and that's of course translated into the NFL which has been great for fantasy managers but of course we've had a number of scares where Puka has been hurt on the sidelines and what and what have you so both of them play the game kind of recklessly and they are fairly tough and they get the moniker of being tough SLBs because of it

01:11:48.193 --> 01:11:58.916
[SPEAKER_02]: But just knowing how efficient Puka has been from a yards per route run standpoint, he has been one of the top three, top four wide receivers for the past two, three seasons, or essentially since he came into the league.

01:11:59.316 --> 01:12:05.397
[SPEAKER_02]: And also the amount of volume that we can project for Puka when he's on the field with Matt Stafford.

01:12:05.737 --> 01:12:10.678
[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, it's great to see a wide receiver like Devante Adams coming in and working alongside of him.

01:12:10.978 --> 01:12:17.220
[SPEAKER_02]: But outside of those two wide receivers, who can we reasonably project to get volume within that offense?

01:12:18.900 --> 01:12:24.802
[SPEAKER_02]: I know, even for you guys out in the Bay Area, I'm sure not too many people are having arguments about having to draft too to at will.

01:12:25.222 --> 01:12:28.543
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody's rushing to the, nobody's rushing to the waiver wire.

01:12:28.563 --> 01:12:34.424
[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody's rushing to their drafts to make sure they have Tyler Higby or whom at whatever other tight ends be kicking around the Rams roster.

01:12:34.744 --> 01:12:38.505
[SPEAKER_02]: It has been the top two wide receivers in the past over the past two to three seasons.

01:12:38.545 --> 01:12:40.946
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been puking a Koo and Cooper Cup and then nobody else.

01:12:41.486 --> 01:12:43.066
[SPEAKER_02]: Even Kaiven Williams, there are one.

01:12:43.086 --> 01:12:50.248
[SPEAKER_02]: It has not been heavily involved or at least involved enough into the past and game to vault him into the second or first round.

01:12:50.288 --> 01:12:54.989
[SPEAKER_02]: It's just been most of the rushing production and just the level of efficiency that the ram's offense has.

01:12:55.449 --> 01:13:08.032
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I'm drafting Puka, not just on the under the auspices of Matthew Stafford being his quarterback, but it's also under the idea that he's going to get more volume relative to the other wide receivers that I'm going to find after him.

01:13:08.472 --> 01:13:11.053
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I can at least project health

01:13:11.773 --> 01:13:16.395
[SPEAKER_02]: maybe short-term for Matthew Stafford, and of course, project the health of Pukina Kua.

01:13:16.756 --> 01:13:30.202
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting, I know that I'm getting a wide receiver that is not only going to receive, twenty-seven, twenty-eight, twenty-nine percent of the targets, but also operates at a part of the field or can be like one of the more efficient wide receivers in the league that I'm going to be looking at.

01:13:30.942 --> 01:13:33.945
[SPEAKER_02]: hundred plus yards per game and also a touchdown here and there.

01:13:34.246 --> 01:13:44.317
[SPEAKER_02]: So for me, I'm not as worried about Pooka, but of course, when we've seen the how they play the game, that's one of the things that is just going to be involved with drafting a wide receiver.

01:13:44.497 --> 01:13:48.101
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, a quarterback, a wide receiver like Pooka and a quarterback like Matthew Stafford.

01:13:50.127 --> 01:13:56.573
[SPEAKER_01]: He also had another question and shout out to Kevin, my cousin, he's, I think he started playing with me.

01:13:57.154 --> 01:14:00.317
[SPEAKER_01]: He had to have been a teenager, like, and I think a young teenager too.

01:14:02.038 --> 01:14:06.723
[SPEAKER_01]: Who is the second best rookie while running back to target?

01:14:07.203 --> 01:14:12.007
[SPEAKER_01]: and he gave Hampton Harvey Henderson, obviously, the first one is the Ash and Jinti.

01:14:12.287 --> 01:14:16.231
[SPEAKER_01]: Who would you have on your list as like the second rookie behind Jinti?

01:14:16.791 --> 01:14:18.653
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, it's easily trivia Henderson.

01:14:19.373 --> 01:14:30.843
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, of course, if you wanted to push up a Gallagher Marion Hampton, because of all the news swirling Naji Harris and the eye injury that he sustained during the Fourth of July, if you wanted to talk about RJ Harvey,

01:14:31.423 --> 01:14:39.306
[SPEAKER_02]: And the fact that we haven't really heard much else out of the Broncos camp regarding the other running backs haven't heard much about Julio Maglachlan.

01:14:39.866 --> 01:14:45.188
[SPEAKER_02]: Audrey asked to me that they drafted last year hasn't made much of the headlines.

01:14:45.808 --> 01:14:52.630
[SPEAKER_02]: And even them adding JK Dobbins, of course, I can understand from a past blocking standpoint why they would add them.

01:14:52.870 --> 01:14:54.731
[SPEAKER_02]: It's really just been the RJ Harvey show.

01:14:56.131 --> 01:15:11.698
[SPEAKER_02]: both of those guys, Hampton and Harvey, I could see making the case for, but it's the pass-catching and also rushing production for Chavion Henderson that I'm most interested in, because that's the way that running backs can really outkick their draft cost.

01:15:12.058 --> 01:15:16.480
[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what we've seen from the early round running backs when we've been talking about Christian McCaffrey earlier.

01:15:16.780 --> 01:15:20.722
[SPEAKER_02]: What does he have to his game, not just the rushing portion, but it's the receiving portion.

01:15:21.002 --> 01:15:30.966
[SPEAKER_02]: because when you're playing these half-point PPR games, full-point PPR formats, you really need to have that receiving acumen in order to vault you into the top twenty-four and top twelve.

01:15:31.446 --> 01:15:34.388
[SPEAKER_02]: And Travyon has highlighted that throughout most of camp.

01:15:34.708 --> 01:15:46.153
[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen the clips of Drake May hitting him on not just the easy dump-off routes where the running back goes right in front of the line of skirmish turns around catches the paths, flips back around and goes for five or six yards.

01:15:46.513 --> 01:15:46.613
[SPEAKER_02]: No.

01:15:47.373 --> 01:15:53.637
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been wheel routes, it's been trading on Henderson operating as not to say slot receiver, but also out wide.

01:15:54.017 --> 01:16:02.603
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, Drake may in his pension for hugging the ball down field, eight, nine, ten yards at a clip, seeing Henderson operate as a receiver down field.

01:16:02.943 --> 01:16:04.204
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm looking for.

01:16:04.464 --> 01:16:07.766
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's the same way that we've seen Kyle Shanahan use Christian McAfrey.

01:16:08.186 --> 01:16:23.512
[SPEAKER_02]: So if we're getting that type of usage out of, or at least that type of usage in training camp, and also parts of the preseason out of a rookie like Travian Henderson, and of course we can project a scenario where he's battling with Ramanjrey Stephenson for the rushing work.

01:16:23.872 --> 01:16:26.053
[SPEAKER_02]: Stephenson has had fumble issues in the past.

01:16:26.393 --> 01:16:33.876
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, the while he has been able to operate in a short yardage situations, his early down rushing success rate and efficiency in those areas could be

01:16:34.316 --> 01:16:39.342
[SPEAKER_02]: Clearly outdone by a running back like Traveon Henderson as we've seen throughout his collegiate profile.

01:16:39.803 --> 01:16:49.275
[SPEAKER_02]: So from where we saw Traveon Henderson being drafted towards the early parts of the off season where it was more of a, yeah, we can kind of see how he could

01:16:49.815 --> 01:16:55.176
[SPEAKER_02]: operate alongside a garlic commander Stevenson to now throughout most of training camp and preseason.

01:16:55.496 --> 01:16:56.296
[SPEAKER_02]: It's a no kidding.

01:16:56.576 --> 01:17:02.577
[SPEAKER_02]: He could take over this backfield and really be not just a russia and receiver that you would want from a running back standpoint.

01:17:02.877 --> 01:17:10.118
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, it's it's definitely been a tray down Henderson as the best running back or the second best running back out of this route out of this class.

01:17:10.138 --> 01:17:13.279
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have any of another one, Rod?

01:17:14.679 --> 01:17:15.339
[SPEAKER_00]: Should I do?

01:17:15.359 --> 01:17:19.020
[SPEAKER_00]: Since we are a forty nine or a pie case.

01:17:19.673 --> 01:17:22.214
[SPEAKER_00]: I want to go about it.

01:17:22.274 --> 01:17:23.754
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to ask it this way.

01:17:23.954 --> 01:17:34.917
[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like most rankings have the top four or five quarterbacks depending, you know, that first tier is, you know, what it is.

01:17:35.117 --> 01:17:40.378
[SPEAKER_00]: And then so basically what I'm asking from a build standpoint, how

01:17:41.810 --> 01:17:48.495
[SPEAKER_00]: Do you see a draft going where I end up with Brock Perti?

01:17:48.515 --> 01:17:54.679
[SPEAKER_00]: Because I've been like a hundred mocks and I haven't come up with him hardly at all.

01:17:55.640 --> 01:18:07.108
[SPEAKER_00]: But as a forty-nine or fan and you know, for our fans, what does a bill and optimal bill look like where you end up with Brock Perti as your quarterback?

01:18:08.048 --> 01:18:12.255
[SPEAKER_02]: So at least for me, I've seen a for Brock party specific.

01:18:12.275 --> 01:18:22.790
[SPEAKER_02]: I've seen him drafted as around like the quarterback ten somewhere in there like a fringe like top twelve-ish, but these around like that ten eleven like type type draft cost at least really

01:18:22.870 --> 01:18:24.110
[SPEAKER_02]: to the other quarterbacks.

01:18:24.731 --> 01:18:31.932
[SPEAKER_02]: And so from an ADP standpoint, that's typically turned out to be, let's say, the ninth-tenthish round, like somewhere in there.

01:18:32.413 --> 01:18:43.476
[SPEAKER_02]: And so if I'm looking at it from a build standpoint, the way that I typically like to address the early rounds, one of my objectives is leave with all of my core starters.

01:18:43.516 --> 01:18:48.237
[SPEAKER_02]: And by core starters, I mean the players from the running backs and wide receivers, because we have to

01:18:48.457 --> 01:18:49.837
[SPEAKER_02]: start all of those positions.

01:18:49.857 --> 01:18:53.479
[SPEAKER_02]: We have to start more of those positions than our quarterbacks and tight ends, right?

01:18:53.499 --> 01:18:55.339
[SPEAKER_02]: We only start one quarterback and one tight end.

01:18:55.739 --> 01:18:59.541
[SPEAKER_02]: We start at least two running backs and let's say at the very least three wide receivers.

01:18:59.581 --> 01:19:06.643
[SPEAKER_02]: So drafting as many of those in the early rounds where we have the best shot to get the highest producing players at those positions.

01:19:07.003 --> 01:19:12.105
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I'm trying to do, but I also like to try and take a detour at quarterback or tight end.

01:19:12.365 --> 01:19:17.247
[SPEAKER_02]: And so in this case, if we're aiming for a guy like Brock Party, I'm looking to get

01:19:18.167 --> 01:19:20.828
[SPEAKER_02]: like trying to not focus on quarterback.

01:19:21.088 --> 01:19:22.848
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's say I get my early round tied in.

01:19:23.248 --> 01:19:30.070
[SPEAKER_02]: So if you want to go for George Kittle in the early rounds, knowing you're going to get Brock party later and have that stack completely fine with it.

01:19:30.330 --> 01:19:35.311
[SPEAKER_02]: But in the meantime, I'm looking forward those early round running backs that we were like, you were talking about early.

01:19:35.351 --> 01:19:40.152
[SPEAKER_02]: You want Chase Brown, get you a Chase Brown, and maybe get you trying to get George Kittle in the third round.

01:19:40.512 --> 01:19:43.333
[SPEAKER_02]: Your first round trying to get one of those high and wide receivers.

01:19:43.713 --> 01:19:47.357
[SPEAKER_02]: also building out some of the mid-range like running backs as well.

01:19:47.417 --> 01:19:51.441
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're a Marion Hampton, your Kenneth Walker, assuming Kenneth Walker is healthy.

01:19:51.842 --> 01:20:01.952
[SPEAKER_02]: And the other wide receivers that typically go in the fourth, fifth, and sixth round, your James and William's or George Pickins, some of the other guys that can really fill in that wide receiver position.

01:20:02.573 --> 01:20:10.940
[SPEAKER_02]: But then afterwards, as you're working towards your depth pieces, some of those bench guys, the running backs we were talking about earlier, your chain of war and your George Mason's.

01:20:11.281 --> 01:20:20.989
[SPEAKER_02]: But then once you get into that realm, that's where I'm looking to pull the trigger on a Brock party, essentially having most of by running backs, wide receivers and tight ends square it away.

01:20:21.409 --> 01:20:29.212
[SPEAKER_02]: So I have like six seven eight players like already set in my starting roster maybe one or maybe at least one or two in my bench.

01:20:29.572 --> 01:20:35.093
[SPEAKER_02]: And after that, I'm dropping a guy like Brock party right on to the top of my my starting roster right after that.

01:20:35.134 --> 01:20:39.035
[SPEAKER_02]: That's how I would see just knowing where he's typically getting drafted at.

01:20:39.295 --> 01:20:48.698
[SPEAKER_02]: So again, the ninth tenth round that would allow me to set up most of my starters have eight starters already or six or seven stars already set maybe one or two in my bench.

01:20:49.058 --> 01:20:51.459
[SPEAKER_02]: And then drop Brock pretty right on top of that afterwards.

01:20:52.939 --> 01:20:53.159
[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

01:20:53.239 --> 01:20:54.880
[SPEAKER_00]: I have no go for it.

01:20:54.920 --> 01:20:55.440
[SPEAKER_00]: No, go for it.

01:20:55.460 --> 01:20:57.201
[SPEAKER_00]: Can I ask one quick follow up on that?

01:20:57.981 --> 01:21:09.645
[SPEAKER_00]: What it ends up that tier kind of always looks like to me is like it's like Murray Nick's feels pretty Prescott and May.

01:21:10.285 --> 01:21:12.866
[SPEAKER_00]: How does that shake out for you?

01:21:15.868 --> 01:21:19.771
[SPEAKER_00]: when you when you look at that that tier of quarterback.

01:21:20.432 --> 01:21:28.558
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, I'm willing to let a lot of the other drafters take the the bone mixes of the world while he does have have some mobility to him.

01:21:28.918 --> 01:21:31.520
[SPEAKER_02]: I'm willing to let somebody else take him just in fields.

01:21:31.560 --> 01:21:38.125
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been hearing a lot of the training training reports out of camp about how the offense has really been clicking yet.

01:21:38.445 --> 01:21:42.729
[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see how much he can evolve as a passer even though he had just those six games in Pittsburgh.

01:21:43.029 --> 01:21:44.370
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll let somebody else take him.

01:21:44.770 --> 01:21:52.115
[SPEAKER_02]: So those first two guys in line to let off the board and then after that I am trying to I what's what everybody's going to be doing afterwards.

01:21:52.475 --> 01:22:02.622
[SPEAKER_02]: And my sense and this is just more of a qualitative or subjective opinion than anything quantitative is that folks are going to be more willing to take deck press got ahead of Brock Perty.

01:22:03.162 --> 01:22:06.504
[SPEAKER_02]: All of the highlights had a camp right now have been, well, Dak is healthy.

01:22:06.844 --> 01:22:12.267
[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen that offense be more prolific from a pass following standpoint in the past when Dak Prescott has been healthy.

01:22:12.547 --> 01:22:18.130
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course, the addition of George Pickins makes that offense one of the more popular offenses that folks are going to want to target.

01:22:18.530 --> 01:22:25.033
[SPEAKER_02]: So if I can already see a scenario where folks are going to want to draft bone nicks, everybody's looking at Justin Fields for the rushing.

01:22:25.513 --> 01:22:30.936
[SPEAKER_02]: Also, Dak Prescott is going to be one of the more popular quarterbacks once you get into the middle-ish rounds of your draft.

01:22:31.296 --> 01:22:35.160
[SPEAKER_02]: I can I can already tick off three quarterbacks that people are going to take ahead of them.

01:22:35.721 --> 01:22:48.095
[SPEAKER_02]: And so then afterwards it's right now I can start to look at Brock party and I can I can see a scenario where he can fall to me versus me having to be more aggressive on him just looking at other quarterbacks that typically go around where he's draft in.

01:22:48.115 --> 01:22:52.057
[SPEAKER_02]: And even Drake may for that standpoint, because people know that Drake may is going to be a scramble.

01:22:52.357 --> 01:22:53.557
[SPEAKER_02]: He's got stuff on digs.

01:22:53.797 --> 01:22:56.938
[SPEAKER_02]: We just talked about Travy on Henderson in his past catching ability.

01:22:57.259 --> 01:23:13.165
[SPEAKER_02]: So from a value standpoint, there are some other quarterbacks that folks will either definitely take ahead of him, take ahead of Brock Perti, or at least take around him so that I know where I'm going to need to be more aggressive on Brock Perti, or I can sit back and wait and draft him when he kind of falls to me.

01:23:14.476 --> 01:23:17.198
[SPEAKER_00]: One more follow up and then I'm sorry, Gary.

01:23:17.238 --> 01:23:17.999
[SPEAKER_00]: No, you got it.

01:23:18.119 --> 01:23:19.219
[SPEAKER_00]: You got it.

01:23:19.520 --> 01:23:25.184
[SPEAKER_00]: This is something that this is a decision that I see a lot is Murray or Perty.

01:23:26.440 --> 01:23:36.226
[SPEAKER_02]: I can see I'm more of a Murray guy that's more so because I'm looking at Murray from a from a rushing standpoint than anything else.

01:23:36.526 --> 01:23:40.648
[SPEAKER_02]: And also this this might be a me wish casting.

01:23:40.948 --> 01:23:45.231
[SPEAKER_02]: How OCD you're pet sing is going to use Marvin Harrison in his second season.

01:23:45.251 --> 01:23:52.375
[SPEAKER_02]: Because one of the issues that I had with how Marvin Harrison was deployed in his first season was he was playing that sacrificial X receiver role.

01:23:52.795 --> 01:24:03.264
[SPEAKER_02]: was primarily playing on the outside, running a lot of the deeper, like intermediate and deep routes, like from either one along the perimeter, didn't see too many targets from the slot.

01:24:03.525 --> 01:24:07.348
[SPEAKER_02]: I think he only had around a twenty percent snap share from the interior part of the field.

01:24:07.668 --> 01:24:08.989
[SPEAKER_02]: And this is your wide receiver one.

01:24:09.029 --> 01:24:15.635
[SPEAKER_02]: This is the guy that they went out and drafted with early round draft capital, and yet he's not being given those lab-type targets.

01:24:16.016 --> 01:24:17.257
[SPEAKER_02]: You see how it's going.

01:24:17.697 --> 01:24:24.782
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I just put the ball on his hands, put him on a slant route or a quick hit or something along those lines and let him win after the catch.

01:24:25.162 --> 01:24:34.368
[SPEAKER_02]: And if they if I can see more of that development for Harrison and year two, that is what gives me some hope that calamary, at least can have that type of quarterback season.

01:24:34.388 --> 01:24:36.429
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been wanting for him since he came into the league.

01:24:36.749 --> 01:24:37.270
[SPEAKER_02]: And of course,

01:24:37.610 --> 01:24:56.775
[SPEAKER_02]: We've been hearing the discussion from him throughout the offseason of how he feels about his knee after the ACL tear a couple of seasons ago and I can understand from his standpoint not wanting to run in twenty twenty four because he is still getting more comfortable with that rushing production so if I can project or I can see a scenario where

01:24:57.255 --> 01:25:08.109
[SPEAKER_02]: Kyle Murray does want to rush a bit more in twenty twenty five and we're also seeing the receiving production from a got like Marvin Harrison also start to evolve as a past catcher.

01:25:08.430 --> 01:25:14.678
[SPEAKER_02]: I can see where Kyle Murray can have the type of quarterback season at least have him at one maybe one step ahead of a got like Brock party.

01:25:16.884 --> 01:25:18.185
[SPEAKER_01]: Rod, do not apologize.

01:25:18.245 --> 01:25:25.388
[SPEAKER_01]: When do we get an opportunity like this to ping and ask questions to one of the smartest minds in this fantasy business?

01:25:26.449 --> 01:25:30.651
[SPEAKER_01]: All right, no, two more, and we'll let you go, because you already stayed longer than I asked.

01:25:30.751 --> 01:25:31.451
[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, so problem.

01:25:31.531 --> 01:25:31.911
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

01:25:32.211 --> 01:25:32.372
[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

01:25:33.552 --> 01:25:55.827
[SPEAKER_01]: obviously with everyone as they're different rankings and part of fantasy drafting is looking for an opportunity where maybe the player is being overlooked for one reason or another and because a lot of people really follow these rankings very closely and some of it is is group think as well.

01:25:56.427 --> 01:25:58.048
[SPEAKER_01]: where you're like, okay, I get it.

01:25:58.569 --> 01:26:01.531
[SPEAKER_01]: This is where people feel that this person going to fall.

01:26:01.931 --> 01:26:05.573
[SPEAKER_01]: But actually, I think that this person is underrated.

01:26:05.593 --> 01:26:17.482
[SPEAKER_01]: Do you have a, this person is being underrated in drafts right now, who you and your own drafts are actually looking to grab before some of the other folks who are drafting.

01:26:18.522 --> 01:26:22.024
[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, actually, it's so great that you asked me about that.

01:26:22.444 --> 01:26:30.787
[SPEAKER_02]: So one of the guys that instantly came to mind as you were giving me that question is Zay Flowers, the wide receiver for the Baltimore Ravens.

01:26:31.247 --> 01:26:35.969
[SPEAKER_02]: And so when you think about Zay Flowers, it's not even Zay Flowers.

01:26:36.389 --> 01:26:43.312
[SPEAKER_02]: First, the thing that you think of when you think about the Baltimore Ravens, it's Lamar Jackson, then it's Derek Henry, and then in

01:26:43.932 --> 01:27:03.468
[SPEAKER_02]: Twenty twenty three and maybe the back end of twenty twenty four was Mark Andrews and then you think about say flowers right even though by default flowers is the wide receiver one for his team earned about twenty four twenty five percent target shared just this past season he is their wide receiver one but we do not care at least

01:27:04.189 --> 01:27:06.871
[SPEAKER_02]: We were like relative to where he's being drafted.

01:27:07.112 --> 01:27:13.857
[SPEAKER_02]: We don't care about his status on the team, because we know it's the march action show featuring Derek Henry, and then oh, by the way, there's dudes A-Flower.

01:27:13.917 --> 01:27:15.799
[SPEAKER_02]: It's also like kicking it over there on the team as well.

01:27:16.039 --> 01:27:21.784
[SPEAKER_02]: But also where the wide receivers that are getting drafted around say flowers, I'll give you a few names.

01:27:21.804 --> 01:27:23.445
[SPEAKER_02]: They're being drafted around say flowers right now.

01:27:23.946 --> 01:27:29.310
[SPEAKER_02]: DJ Moore, Corridon Sutton, they're being drafted ahead of him, and then save your worthy and George Pickins.

01:27:29.671 --> 01:27:31.693
[SPEAKER_02]: You can make the case for any of those guys.

01:27:32.596 --> 01:27:37.140
[SPEAKER_02]: as being better suited for fantasy production than Zay Flowers.

01:27:37.520 --> 01:27:42.224
[SPEAKER_02]: DJ Moore, now playing with Caleb Williams is getting all the work, no key in Allen, better than Zay Flowers.

01:27:42.544 --> 01:27:51.792
[SPEAKER_02]: Cortland Sutton, I mean, they just traded away Devon Valle, even though they doesn't really matter, but he's the wife who's one because he gets those targets down field, has to report Bonix better than Zay Flowers.

01:27:51.952 --> 01:27:55.736
[SPEAKER_02]: Zay, if you're worthy, where she rises going to be spended for half the season, apparently.

01:27:56.748 --> 01:27:58.089
[SPEAKER_02]: We can see him as the wide receiver one.

01:27:58.149 --> 01:28:07.473
[SPEAKER_02]: Travis Kelsey's two old catching passes and packed him homes, better than Zafel ours, George Pickins going to be catching bombs from deck press got better than Zafel ours.

01:28:07.933 --> 01:28:16.798
[SPEAKER_02]: Even though, let's forget the fact that Zafel ours out of the entire group had the second most explosive, explosive catches in twenty twenty four.

01:28:17.178 --> 01:28:21.860
[SPEAKER_02]: Let's forget the fact that out of that group of six wide receivers, he was also third and target share.

01:28:22.200 --> 01:28:25.322
[SPEAKER_02]: That's also forget the fact that he plays on one of the better teams.

01:28:26.242 --> 01:28:33.168
[SPEAKER_02]: The Ravens, they scored more points than the bears, than the Broncos, than Wal-Nathachies, and definitely the Cowboys.

01:28:33.368 --> 01:28:35.750
[SPEAKER_02]: But of course, the Cowboys had the injury to deck press got.

01:28:36.410 --> 01:28:37.671
[SPEAKER_02]: He plays on a good offense.

01:28:38.232 --> 01:28:39.853
[SPEAKER_02]: He is the team's wide receiver one.

01:28:40.253 --> 01:28:46.118
[SPEAKER_02]: He does get targets down the field, and he does create explosive catches at the same rate as all the rest of those guys.

01:28:46.719 --> 01:28:50.121
[SPEAKER_02]: But because we hype up the other situations,

01:28:51.082 --> 01:28:54.484
[SPEAKER_02]: Caleb Williams with Ben Johnson and the Bears could be DJ More season.

01:28:54.664 --> 01:28:56.925
[SPEAKER_02]: Corlan Sutton now, he just got the extension.

01:28:57.025 --> 01:29:00.187
[SPEAKER_02]: Bo Nick sees next big thing, one of the better quarterbacks out of his class.

01:29:00.727 --> 01:29:10.553
[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's all these perceptions about all the other situations, whereas it's been Zay Flowers as one of the guys said, from the past couple of years, his game is continued to evolve.

01:29:11.595 --> 01:29:13.817
[SPEAKER_02]: stepped up from an average of the target standpoint.

01:29:13.857 --> 01:29:15.958
[SPEAKER_02]: He was more of a gadget guy in his first season.

01:29:16.398 --> 01:29:28.186
[SPEAKER_02]: Now operating more as a typical or prototypical wide receiver one, still capable of catching passes, not just in the short area of the field, but also deep, seeing him beat my bangles plenty of times down the field.

01:29:28.767 --> 01:29:31.469
[SPEAKER_02]: So he is one of the guys that I can see where

01:29:32.189 --> 01:29:44.559
[SPEAKER_02]: We have overhypes the other wide receivers leading draft that are around him, whereas I'm just happy taking, I'm just as happy taking safe flowers, even a half round behind most of those guys than what other people are drafting.

01:29:44.759 --> 01:29:51.244
[SPEAKER_02]: Considering we can get the same value or the same production at a safe flowers relative to the guys that he's being drafted around.

01:29:52.069 --> 01:30:03.718
[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, I want to give you a chance to talk a little bit about guillotine leagues as we get out of here because I know that was a big thing for fantasy life.

01:30:03.978 --> 01:30:12.285
[SPEAKER_01]: I know you guys raised some money and Matthew was on a couple of different podcasts where I really heard him hype up the guillotine leagues.

01:30:12.885 --> 01:30:20.650
[SPEAKER_01]: And you guys have some sort of agreement or partnership or purchasing of the actual IP of guillotine leagues or something like that.

01:30:22.091 --> 01:30:27.815
[SPEAKER_01]: This is a very popular new way to play fantasy football for the masses.

01:30:28.316 --> 01:30:37.482
[SPEAKER_01]: So talk a little bit about guillotine leagues and why people enjoy it and what is kind of the hook around playing in this way versus the other ways that people play.

01:30:38.391 --> 01:30:50.038
[SPEAKER_02]: Well, like we were talking at the beginning of the show, if there's a new format or if there's a, you've gone down the rabbit hole, the fancy football, and you want to see what's the new thing that's going on.

01:30:50.578 --> 01:30:58.482
[SPEAKER_02]: One of the big things about fantasy life is we're here to talk with you and teach you about some of the formats that are out there and guillotine is one of them.

01:30:58.983 --> 01:31:06.287
[SPEAKER_02]: And for those that aren't aware, let's say you have a, seventeen, eighteen people you want to get into a league, that sounds ridiculous at first.

01:31:07.307 --> 01:31:15.291
[SPEAKER_02]: Drafting with that many people in a league, your team is going to look horrendous after, let's say, even the fifth or sixth round just from the number of people in there.

01:31:15.771 --> 01:31:16.732
[SPEAKER_02]: But get through your draft.

01:31:17.472 --> 01:31:18.253
[SPEAKER_02]: Start the season.

01:31:18.713 --> 01:31:25.216
[SPEAKER_02]: The thing with the eating leagues is after each week, the person with the lowest score, they get to the top.

01:31:25.476 --> 01:31:26.517
[SPEAKER_02]: They are out of the league.

01:31:26.937 --> 01:31:27.998
[SPEAKER_02]: They are completely done.

01:31:28.758 --> 01:31:38.646
[SPEAKER_02]: And now afterwards, their roster, whoever was on it, from the first round to the eighteenth round or however many rounds that you have in your draft, all their players get dumped onto the waiver wire.

01:31:39.186 --> 01:31:50.314
[SPEAKER_02]: So if the person with the lowest score had the Mar Jackson, Brock Perty, Christian McCaffrey, whoever on their roster, they are now out there on the waiver wire for you to try and bid against nor to pick up onto your team.

01:31:50.835 --> 01:31:57.180
[SPEAKER_02]: You're essentially now being able to replace some of your duds with their studs afterwards.

01:31:57.820 --> 01:32:00.641
[SPEAKER_02]: So that's where the fun comes and that's where the strategy comes in.

01:32:00.781 --> 01:32:10.924
[SPEAKER_02]: Each week as long as you're not last, you have the ability to be able to add to your team and improve your team as the weeks and months go on.

01:32:11.364 --> 01:32:16.585
[SPEAKER_02]: And so it's become this new strategy or this new way to approach the same game that we've been playing for.

01:32:16.605 --> 01:32:21.667
[SPEAKER_02]: I don't Greg, you were saying you've been doing it since the nineties and we've been doing this game for people doing this game for thirty years.

01:32:22.227 --> 01:32:24.589
[SPEAKER_02]: And now we have a new way to approach this.

01:32:24.930 --> 01:32:26.851
[SPEAKER_02]: And it's so fun and entertaining.

01:32:27.472 --> 01:32:32.016
[SPEAKER_02]: For me, I've told the story because for folks that aren't aware, go to fancy life.

01:32:32.056 --> 01:32:33.657
[SPEAKER_02]: We have the fancy life newsletter.

01:32:33.677 --> 01:32:38.581
[SPEAKER_02]: There's also a Geeting newsletter written by Paul Charchin, who is the creator of Geeting Leagues.

01:32:39.062 --> 01:32:42.565
[SPEAKER_02]: Also features me as one of the writers for the newsletter as well.

01:32:43.125 --> 01:32:49.591
[SPEAKER_02]: And in the first newsletter that I wrote, I told about the story where very first year, this was around two thousand two.

01:32:50.211 --> 01:32:54.493
[SPEAKER_02]: When I was first introduced to gay teen leagues in the first week, I had drafted.

01:32:54.513 --> 01:32:55.414
[SPEAKER_02]: I actually think I did.

01:32:55.514 --> 01:33:02.938
[SPEAKER_02]: I had drafted Brock Perti as my as my quarterback, but the person that went out after week one, they had Lamar Jackson on their team.

01:33:03.518 --> 01:33:05.800
[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, well, I'm going to go out and get Lamar Jackson.

01:33:06.280 --> 01:33:13.244
[SPEAKER_02]: I spent all one thousand dollars of my budget in the first week on Lamar Jackson.

01:33:14.044 --> 01:33:15.345
[SPEAKER_02]: I was out in two weeks afterwards.

01:33:15.645 --> 01:33:16.486
[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, what happened?

01:33:17.066 --> 01:33:17.946
[SPEAKER_02]: I got Lamar Jackson.

01:33:18.026 --> 01:33:18.827
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought I was going to win.

01:33:19.487 --> 01:33:29.193
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so it's things like that where you don't think about or there's no real understanding of the ramifications of, well, I just wanted to get this, but I saw this great player on here.

01:33:29.713 --> 01:33:32.035
[SPEAKER_02]: Dare Henry is now sitting on the way for what I'm going to do.

01:33:32.515 --> 01:33:33.737
[SPEAKER_02]: not pick him up.

01:33:34.337 --> 01:33:44.469
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the incremental additions so that you're not last in your league that you have to consider playing for the floor versus trying to swing for the fences like we typically do in managed leagues.

01:33:44.829 --> 01:33:47.752
[SPEAKER_02]: That makes guillotine leagues just a different format.

01:33:48.433 --> 01:33:49.874
[SPEAKER_02]: And so, and so, very entertaining.

01:33:49.894 --> 01:33:53.255
[SPEAKER_02]: We've had a guillotine league that's been started within the company.

01:33:53.596 --> 01:34:00.999
[SPEAKER_02]: So we have a little bit of trash talk each week of who's going to be the last person available or who's going to be the one that winds up taking down the entire league, doing my following.

01:34:01.019 --> 01:34:03.400
[SPEAKER_02]: I believe he was the one that won the company league last year.

01:34:03.780 --> 01:34:04.541
[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just again.

01:34:05.542 --> 01:34:08.645
[SPEAKER_02]: a new take on this game that we've been loving for decades.

01:34:08.686 --> 01:34:20.620
[SPEAKER_02]: So I very much encourage people to check it out, go check out the app, go check out the guiting website, start playing it and just test it out with your friends and see if you're the one that winds up getting shot, you're the one that winds up making it all the way to the end.

01:34:20.660 --> 01:34:22.783
[SPEAKER_02]: So very much encourage folks to check it out.

01:34:23.323 --> 01:34:42.676
[SPEAKER_01]: Since you said this is the last year of Matthew writing the love hate column, I do hope he requests emails from people who were eliminated in week one of guillotine leagues to hear the horror stories of those because man, can you imagine you're, well, you know,

01:34:43.496 --> 01:34:45.097
[SPEAKER_01]: The draft is everything, right?

01:34:45.117 --> 01:34:45.917
[SPEAKER_01]: It's so exciting.

01:34:46.217 --> 01:34:48.037
[SPEAKER_01]: And then you play and you keep up.

01:34:48.297 --> 01:34:51.758
[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're done after week one, I can't even imagine.

01:34:51.778 --> 01:34:52.939
[SPEAKER_01]: I would be so mad.

01:34:53.059 --> 01:34:54.199
[SPEAKER_01]: I would be so mad.

01:34:55.119 --> 01:35:05.862
[SPEAKER_01]: Chris, you are at Chris Allen F. F. W. X on Twitter slash X. Is there anything else you want to promote before we get out of here?

01:35:06.442 --> 01:35:19.165
[SPEAKER_02]: No, please, and for folks that have any sort of knowledge about the other folks that are contributing, if you've enjoyed the conversation here, but want to check out some of the other folks that are contributing to this side, whether it's Kendall Valenzuela, Pete Oversett.

01:35:19.485 --> 01:35:22.045
[SPEAKER_02]: I can mention the great Dwayne McFarlane in heart.

01:35:22.065 --> 01:35:25.026
[SPEAKER_02]: It's any of those folks, and please go check out the site.

01:35:25.186 --> 01:35:30.767
[SPEAKER_02]: It's such a wonderful cast of folks that are working there, either in front of the camera, behind the camera.

01:35:31.207 --> 01:35:33.707
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been such a wonderful opportunity to be able to work there.

01:35:34.008 --> 01:35:36.188
[SPEAKER_02]: I encourage people to go and take a look at it, subscribe,

01:35:36.248 --> 01:35:43.439
[SPEAKER_02]: to the site, even the free parts, the free newsletter, the free guillotine newsletter, and all of that, and just check out what we have over there.

01:35:43.459 --> 01:35:46.363
[SPEAKER_02]: So fanslife.com, tell them I sent you.

01:35:47.004 --> 01:35:50.429
[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, please, I appreciate everybody for going and taking a look at it.

01:35:51.250 --> 01:35:57.057
[SPEAKER_01]: will link to your profile on that website, which is the same one I sent to Rod where he was able to read some of your stuff.

01:35:57.717 --> 01:36:04.945
[SPEAKER_01]: We'll link all of that stuff in the summaries and in the show notes on all of on all YouTube and in our podcast feed.

01:36:04.965 --> 01:36:06.407
[SPEAKER_01]: So Chris appreciate you.

01:36:06.427 --> 01:36:07.969
[SPEAKER_01]: This was a whole lot of fun.

01:36:09.650 --> 01:36:31.838
[SPEAKER_01]: like we talked earlier I've been playing since nineteen ninety four and it's it is it is an an incredible evolution of a game and and I've just have a blast doing it like sometimes I'm like man I've been commissioner for how many years now give it up but I'm sticking with it my kids are now in the league and

01:36:32.258 --> 01:36:34.480
[SPEAKER_01]: They were bugging me when they were like thirteen years old.

01:36:34.540 --> 01:36:35.581
[SPEAKER_01]: No, you got to wait.

01:36:35.942 --> 01:36:37.043
[SPEAKER_01]: They've been playing.

01:36:37.083 --> 01:36:37.764
[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just fun.

01:36:37.804 --> 01:36:39.505
[SPEAKER_01]: It's like a nice little family thing for us.

01:36:39.846 --> 01:36:40.246
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:36:40.707 --> 01:36:42.749
[SPEAKER_01]: I want to thank Chris from fantasy life.

01:36:42.909 --> 01:36:45.832
[SPEAKER_01]: Also, Rod, thank you, Rod for everything you do.

01:36:46.092 --> 01:36:46.793
[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you, Chris.

01:36:47.634 --> 01:36:47.994
[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

01:36:48.014 --> 01:36:51.157
[SPEAKER_01]: I am double G. We will see you when we see you.

01:36:51.578 --> 01:36:52.599
[SPEAKER_01]: Peace out.