49ers Blowout Dolphins 35-13: Purdy's Near-Perfect Day & Kittle's Breakout | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome to the we want winners post game show Rod and I are here to talk about a 49ers Thrashing of the Miami Dolphins and I guess since there was very little Bad news about this game we should probably start with Maybe the the biggest news from an injury standpoint

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[SPEAKER_01]: coming out of this game and then we can talk about all of the the great play of the 49ers beating a very bad Miami dolphin football team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it looks like, uh, the Marcus Robinson is going to be out for a little while, which is a bummer because he and it looks like Brock and him have really, really good chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the second receiver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, the third receiver that they've lost since the beginning of the season, if we can't pretty ricky, and the strip club is going to be shut down for a couple of months here because dribbling is going to probably miss 10 weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is, you know, the Niners now are down to the kind of the bare minimum of their wide receiving core.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, and anybody who's moving following, you don't have to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do I just do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to be a doctor to know if you watch football for any amount of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that that high ankle spraying is a bad injury because they tend even once you heal in air quotes they tend to linger so yeah that's like one of the worst

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[SPEAKER_00]: injuries that obviously an ACL or Achilles are worse injuries, but that's the kind of injury that you recover from, but can still linger even after you return.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is pretty, it's bad because the Marcus Robinson, I kept saying throughout the all-season that the high expectations

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe unrealistic, but, you know, you have guys like the Marcus Robertson who, while he's pretty much, it's not pretty much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been a journeyman, his entire career, but he has as a, yes, he's had a long career and just is a professional.

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[SPEAKER_00]: football player, a professional wide receiver, and in this offense, and you see the way Brock was dealing that, you know, just having that is really important to the offense, you don't really need a bunch of, well, it would be nice to have a star wide receiver, but if you just have a bunch

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, this offense can be pretty potent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that is a blow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I, I, I, I, I, I seen that, um, Christian Kirk is only a few weeks away, hopefully.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is another guy who is a professional

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of the best in the, I mean, he is one of the best at his position in the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, they can just hold on, maybe help us comment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he can actually start practicing, but he still has to miss the first four games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, they can see a weak spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can ease his way back by practicing as early as this week I believe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that doesn't mean that he's ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know the truth, but I think that's how the rule works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It also means that Jordan Watkins probably going to have to play, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you would think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, maybe, yeah, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, counting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: played today, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he return a pun that it came back because of a hold.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but Watkins has been inactive for the first two games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to have to activate him and he's going to have to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess Kaderahodge is also going to be on on the

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, they are lucky, I guess, I guess, you could say that they're lucky, that next week they have the Cardinals who got beat up by the Seahawks, but then after that is Broncos and Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So those are two good teams after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, by week four, you have to hopefully stay healthy with that wide receiving

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that if they can get to the position where Christian Kirk is good to play, then I think they're okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you just wait for the Marcus Robinson and see how long it takes for him to get back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't heard a time frame for him at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, I'm sure we'll hear one tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, you know, struggling being out for, you know, two thirds of the season is a bummer because by the time he is healthy, which in Shanahan says he's going to be back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but he will have to get back into rhythm all over again and Brock would have no real repetitions with him so that that seems like that's going to be a tough one if he's going to actually be somebody a value for them this year but hey what what did what did they do when when Robinson went down they were like okay

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be a kiddo and McAfrey out of the backfield game, and that's exactly what they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you're sort of grateful that they have all of these weapons that they can just activate, but at the same time, you know, Robinson looked like he was kind of the guy who was looking for as a safety valve, and so, you know, it's an embarrassment of richest kind of thing,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, same rock use it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock uses them so well, which is what man's Robert's valuable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because in a perfect world, George and Christian are going to get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, of the lines here, of the targets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then now you add Mike Evans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's three guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you know, because you always have to knock wood on Mike Evans, because just the history says that those soft tissue injuries are in ongoing concern.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So two games so far, you know, he's made plays in both of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And um, that's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it won't surprise me at any point that my ovens ends up on the injury report and that changes the complexion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the more those guys you can get back and then the same thing with Robinson as with Evans as older players, you get injured and it's harder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just harder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We all understand and they're younger than we are in real years,

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[SPEAKER_00]: football years, their, you know, him and Evans are, they are on the back nine of their career clearly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it just takes longer for them to recover.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just, that's just, you know, that's this physiology.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully they can let him take his time and you get

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get Kirk back and they can just kind of hold the fort and you maybe you like you to get something from Watkins and but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Christian and kiddo and Evans are going to be expected to drive the bus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, in when we spoke from what we saw today, it I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be a stretch to say that I could be out there and catch fast, but he was between what Kyle was calling, and the way he was playing, you know, maybe maybe a rap or two?

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[SPEAKER_01]: dumb because it was he was magnificent today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to put this up from MDs because this act, this was actually asked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: MDs says bring back BA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so at the presser, Kawakami flat out asks Kyle Shanahan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Brandon and I you could possibly be an answer and Kyle kind of laughed and was like, no, it's not happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think a lot of people would be like, does he really need to ask that, but at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: what M.D.

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[SPEAKER_01]: said was kind of a thought that was on people's minds immediately was like maybe BA maybe they could get him back and off of Mars or wherever he is right now and figure out you know because he knows the offense obviously it wouldn't be that hard when I think that bond is pretty broken.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, let's dig into the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think there was another injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was some defensive linemen also had a had ankle injury, but I think they were pretty much unscathed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Otherwise, and it wasn't a game that, you know, that they were...

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[SPEAKER_01]: close at at really at any point they kind of dominated the whole thing so if you came out of this game with a lot of injuries that would have been just a really bad luck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Niners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the only worry that I had was if they were going to be any after effects from the trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: body clock time zone just overall like the highs of that was such a big deal to the Niners and then now coming back in your playing one of the worst teams in the league So you have to get up now thankfully is a home game because that's you know They were pretty fired up to play in front of their home crowd and it was a very professional Business like first half and then in the second half they just kind of let it rip a little bit

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[SPEAKER_01]: very impressive to me, not in beating the Miami Dolphins, because I think my sales estate Spartans might have played 50, 50 with them for a quarter or two today, but just the fact that they prepared, they were ready, they looked fresh, I didn't see any remnants of them possibly being screwed up because the time clock or anything, it was like a professional victory, exactly what they needed to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: beat up the bad team, put it out of, out of reach, you know, by the third quarter and rest your guys and get some other guys, some reps. Everything was just played out perfectly, I thought.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, that was my thought coming into the week was that, you know, this was really legitimately unprecedented spot in that nobody's ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: play the game after a game in Australia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It has never happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You compound the fact the things that you just out knew laid out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a division game versus your division rival.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was a big win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a definitive win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you had to come back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're playing one of the worst teams in the league if you're ever going to let down

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be then, but on the other side, Koshana hand over the past five years, they've been double-digit underdogs 11 times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe it is, and they're 11 and old, and they cover too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is one place that they are,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've shown over the course of his career here that they handle those spots well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was obviously, they did that this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was really, really business-like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing that I came away with initially was that, damn,

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[SPEAKER_00]: looking team in that the offense, you know, for years, the explanation was, you know, co-create's offense, the running game creates explosives in a quarterback to streamers to ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that over the past two weeks has not been the case in that they've won in blowout fashion in two completely different ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Rams game was a they were really physically just beat the Rams up and in this game

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[SPEAKER_00]: They hardly ran the ball at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know how much credit you get because I need to rewatch the game, but how much credit you give to the defense and their just steadfast set up not to allow them to beat them that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they say, fine, we will do it this other way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll throw the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the story of the game was that they got before the Miami got into the 49er territory three times in the first half and they came away with two field goals and the nine is first five positions were touchdowns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean that that's the ball game right there five or five in the red zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for anybody who's watched this team over the last five years knows that that is even against one of the worst teams in the league is impressive for this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Were you at any point?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think worried is the right answer, but the one flawed defensively, at least early on, was, and this was kind of the fact last week, uh, their ability to control the run game, like, a who not not that HN broke a number of plays, but he was consistently getting five, getting six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They would stop him, you know, behind them, behind the line of

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that they're going to be a dominant run-stopping defense, but, you know, if you

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think our worry is a little bit more in the secondary, but at the same time that the one thing that it would be nice to plug is that the run game, and I don't know, like I thought the rookie played really well, he had that really great stop later in the game, but they don't have like, you know, when when you start who's my man's CJ West started today, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and and like you know what he's fired up that that is your starting tackle so i don't know i i wonder if there's gonna be a lineup adjustment or maybe they like the fact that the rookie is is that they're able to cycle him in and he's kind of stays fresh but i don't know that that's the one thing that i was watching the game where i was like the night is going to win this game they're going to win it very easily

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that is one thing that it just stands out a little bit on the tape is their ability to stop the running.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think the dolphins had like gotty running stats or anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, HN was 20 for 74.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Overall they had, I think they got close to 100.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it wasn't terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just when they were in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The reason they were in the game was because they could run the football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and numbers show it, like Halting, he is what he has shown the ability to do in the first two weeks of his rookie season, is that he can make splash plays, which is something that none of our rookies really were able to do last year, Collins or West, or even really

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kill Williams who was solid, but not really none of them really were splash playmakers in often they shown in first two weeks he's made big plays, but when you watch him down in and down out he is still really inconsistent and is not an answer in terms of the run game unless he continues to

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[SPEAKER_00]: be able to, you know, it's one of those things where you see it on Saturdays, this is the best way I can describe it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are a lot of quarterbacks who can make the splash plays, but then, you know, missed the layups.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is that kind of player at Defender Tackle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He will make,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, a big play every now and then, but down to down, there's still a lot of variants in his game, which is we really need somebody who was solid in there who can just down in and down out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just make the play this in front of you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to be spectacular because you got greenlaw and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Warner there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you could just do your job, just don't get embarrassed or blown up or misassimates.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I would imagine they're still looking, you know, to, um, bring somebody in here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess we're just faded for the rest of the season to be hearing about Vita

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[SPEAKER_00]: the duration because it's going to continue to be a weakness because I don't see anybody on the roster who is poised to make that jump.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know because CJ West is just he wasn't very good last year and there was there was talk in camp that he was like on the bubble because I guess he

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got work ethic problems or whatever the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a young guy, but yeah, so yeah, you are I agree that is going to be a place where it's going to be a question mark and if they could upgrade that would be a place that they could do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the cardinals who they play next week didn't even really have a chance to run the football that much because they got behind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, they do have the young rookie Jeremiah love, um, you know, so that'll be something to keep an eye on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as we know, for whatever reason, Jacobi Brissette gave them a lot of problems last year, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The point is, is that Arizona's offense isn't really built to run over anybody, but I would imagine the strategy would be to kind of like slow the game down a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's just another opportunity for the Niners to play a team they should beat and to figure out some of these things before they play the two biggies coming up after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's something that as we look forward if this team is really is good is they have looked the first two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when it comes time for playoff football, mostly our teams who are able to take advantage of a weakness like that, I'm thinking about like Philly or

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[SPEAKER_00]: difference, they're able to exploit it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's something to just keep in the back of our mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe Rahim Morris is able to figure out a way to mitigate that and we continue to get better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One thing I will say about our secondary is we really haven't been tested through in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave, they've been tackling really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Mark is Marcus Seagull, who I killed last year, because, and it, and rightfully so, because he's one of the worst literally statistically, one of the worst safety's in coverage in the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's done a hell of a job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: tackling and in the run game this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so have a lot, you know, a lot of our guys in the secondary have done real well in run support and tackling after the kit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that has been a bright spot, even though I know Jair Brown had a pretty good game today in the run game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is a plus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if we are able to

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[SPEAKER_00]: continue that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be a good thing as long as quit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we're doing what it is we're doing now throwing the ball around and scoring quickly, we have, you know, it's, you know, our defense is going to see more passes and that's where, you know, the pass rush in the secondary, you know, we'll have to, they'll get their metal tested.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Upton's stout fell for the Okidoka a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He saw Malik Willis like have to throw short check down constantly and so he's like looking for it because he wants it to go into the house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's looking for it and looking for it and then he then he looks up and he's like, uh oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the score team, if you're going to be gambleing out there, the score of the dictates that this is the time to do it, but yeah, he did get his eyes got his eyes were bigger than his stomach, it is a turned out, but you know, in that game, nobody likes to get beat, but if it's going to happen, you know, let it be in a

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess we got to talk about Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've saved it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh my god, uh 20 for 22 to 87 to touchdowns and a rushing touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also led the team in rushing with 30 yards K Lomblack and McCaffrey 25 and 23.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He threw some darts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was the one to Mike Evans that that set up a touchdown where

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still I've watched rewatch that play and I'm like I'm watching it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going like bro.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not open and he just gets it in the one place that allows Mike Evans to stretch out that Those long arms in that big hand and snatch that football amazing throw

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how George Kittle was as wide open as he was, but he hit George and George had a big game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: George, you know, whatever George plays well, it seems that he's just such an inspiration to the team and to the fan, especially at home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a great game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even, you check, he had a touchdown pass as well, whenever you can get the full back involved, it's solid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, you know, even

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[SPEAKER_01]: i thought he was active out there and he looked like someone that you had to pay attention to he had that one drop which was the only uh the only incomplete past for most of the game until the very end uh like we were dimensioned to mark us but just overall like um i'll give you the number here one two three four five six guys had more than one catch

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Brock's just spreading it around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, you know, he's finding just different guys open.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's making all the right decisions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm not saying that Miami's defense was really giving him much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was untouched.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he may have been hit once on a throw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But man, just a surgical precision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great Brock pretty performance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what else you can say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I, my note.

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[SPEAKER_00]: later is that you start to get numbers in so PDF gave him an initial, even people who don't know, they don't, they're their ratings and numbers aren't usually posted until the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: day after.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they give you initial numbers that aren't that are unofficial.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So his PDF grade was 98, which is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you went over the traditional numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the note that I had was it was 18 consecutive completions to finish the game, which is nuts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like he was just efficient.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was play action.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Jack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was timing routes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave stayed ahead of the sticks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he scrambled and the movement throws off platform that throw that Evans was off platform.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Taking the yards when his leg, when Miami vacated, it was just really,

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[SPEAKER_00]: really a, it was, you know, the defense is what it is, but he took advantage of it and made the most of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you look at the PDF grades top five, um, often suppliers were all passing game guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was Brock at 85, 85, 85, 91, 5, you check at 81, 1,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Evan's at 80 and the Marcus Robinson at 78-3, it's just crazy, the passing game players just dominated the top of that list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was it was a really really good performance and it shows that when Brock is playing at that level

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I understand who he was playing with, but if he's playing at that level, you know, it raises the ceiling of this team, and that has always for me been a question for a rock party.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is, yes, when he's got the Avengers, he is been a really, you know, a...

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[SPEAKER_00]: excellent player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The question is now with lesser talent overall because you know Christian and kiddo are still top shelf players but can he be the guy who elevates to team and that guy who played tonight today definitely is a ceiling

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it matter in the wide scheme of things?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the 49ers haven't played traditional 49ers ball with the way that they usually run it like, I don't know why they aren't running as much as they have, but opening last week's game and this week's game, they're just coming out gunning like it's just past play past play past play past play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's almost like I think these are the plays that the fans like about Shanahan, by the way, when he can be really creative with coming out of the gate like that, but at the same time, I know what he says is the key to winning, which is running the ball and having, you know, 30 some odd carries or whatever they had today as a team, they had a 27.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but two of them are from Mac and three of them are from Brock so really twenty two carries from a ball carrier and a game like this probably doesn't matter but I do wonder you know sometimes

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[SPEAKER_01]: offensive coaches, you know, they they they like to put up numbers like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They and do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it kind of gets intoxicating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do wonder if when they play a Seattle knowing that a Denver knowing that those defenses are a lot different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the game plan does go back a little bit more to, you know, we got to play a little bit more smash mouth with the creativeness because once you do play that kind of football and the defense starts expecting it then it just opens up a bunch of different things so but that's the one thing I wonder do you know these first two games they were pass heavy and and I mean to be, you know to to to give a unit props.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock's been not sacked in two games, and that's against Miles Garrett, and you know, Miami's defense is not one that you're going to be too worried about, but he was untouched pretty much for for two games, and you have to give Kudos to the offensive line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I know a lot of it was just Kyle's just getting the ball at a Brock's hand really quickly in that first game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you saw some drops in the you saw some letting plays open up downfield in this game and still the offensive line did their job so that's another thing that you know from a unit perspective we were like a little worried earlier in the season like you know I think we both thought

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock was going to cook this season if he had the time, but if he didn't have the time, we did not want to see him run in like a chicken with the said cut off and so far they've gave him the time they've given him the time and that's been good to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that, you know, you know, it is their playing well now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's that's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like you had mentioned earlier, we're going to have that stretch in games four and five that are going to test that because both Seattle and Denver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: have some of the best past rushers in the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in the best, in the best defenses, they're both in the top five defensively in the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there will be a lot of questions answered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, not answered necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be, those will be really big quizzes for the semester.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Seattle game might be about, you know, if Donald's going to be back, it sounds like he's not going to be out for too long, but Drew Locke might just be like, come on man, let me cook the touchdowns today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jackson in jibba in jibba was just if you can throw him the ball I mean that you're you're in a pretty good shape if you can Just get him the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like bring back Jim Zorn and he can throw me the full ball Yeah, and Dave Craig

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what else kind of stood out for you in this game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will say, I was joking with my dad and I was texting him and I said, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If Eddie Peniero would just knock these kick, these kickoffs, you know, within the two or three yard line, I'd feel a little bit better, but otherwise this is kind of a perfect game and he's like, I don't get, don't be too hard on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had the flu.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, well, better have been diarrhea based on how he was kicking them kickoffs because they were pretty short there, but yeah, anything else stand out for you, that you would.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Both had a good gang.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a high rated defensive player by PFF, PFF, you know, it was initial ratings, but it was pressures.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't resort to sex, but they had four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they came from different people, height and seegle and white got one and then Fred and up the stop shared one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you see

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[SPEAKER_00]: the defense coordinator able to get pressure from other players, and obviously Nick's presence helps all of that because he was playing really well, and so he's the guy who an offense is going to key, and when they do that is the job of those other guys, it's to be able to generate pressure and make them pay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the question becomes, to me, if most eventually gets completely back to both the level of production, and Morris can continue to manufacture pressures from guys like height and white and, you know, blitzing linebackers and safeties, the signal is as defensive as considerably higher than it looked during the off season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We also can't overstate the fact that Malik will listen to Miami offensive-wide our art nearly a final exam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's something we're looking at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Malik Willis was able to get out of a lot of stuff if you didn't have none, if you didn't have a quarterback with his escape ability, then I just might have like eight sacks today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So much so that there were a couple were both ahead of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he slipped out so much that I was like both should ask that ref if he's like wearing some Vaseline on his jersey or something He's like sliding right out of his hands, both is like right there and he can't grab them But it you know, it's great to see that dude back and you see the back of his jersey Really early in the frame and you're like, okay, he's right there

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course Fred is going to get all the acclaim from the announcers, you know, Darrell Johnson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Big, big, big Fred fan and also very similarly like just to see him out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I don't know what it's like to completely twist your foot so that it's pointing in the other direction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then come back and play a game like football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he doesn't look like he's lost even an eighth of a step in how quick and fast he is out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he is, he's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm we're out of the privileges for him and I'm not one for high probability, but I think that, you know, he's

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's pretty much a lock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just point for the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is just that good a player in the top tackler and a franchise of this magnet, he's that guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's still playing at the top of his game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, every,

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[SPEAKER_00]: every accolade that he gets, he deserves, but like you say, he and Nick are the lynch pins of this defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one is not, is individually, Fred Warner is great, but when you, when he's got

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nick working, it opens up a lot for him to be able to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you can pair him with, if he could pair, we could pair also with another solid defensive tackle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That just makes the linebackers even better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when him and Nick are playing at a high level, it takes this defense to another level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also saw stat that I was almost unsure of I was like it's like one of those things where I was like

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[SPEAKER_01]: is a fox sports using AI on the stats and they're not double checking, but shanahan tied bill walls for moats games coached by four to enter said coach and we're counting playoffs in Kyle's world, I think we do have an extra round of playoffs basically, you know, before when Walsh was coaching, but has he really been here that long?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: 8 years?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How many years?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 2017 was this first year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, nine years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is year nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's so young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that was somebody was talking about, you know, you really can't compare anybody to Kloff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although, I mean, that been Johnson to you over there is doing some amazing things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, he, he was a head coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At Kyle's age now, Bill Walsh wasn't yet, he hadn't had his first head coaching job at the same age, the Kyle has now nine years of head coaching experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's just been at it for such a long time, and it's still so young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess we haven't talked about it, but apparently he

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[SPEAKER_00]: is extended.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not going anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a great thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, because he is he's one of the best in the league period.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I was looking at one more thing here, but I guess let's look forward to Arizona.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, forget one more thing if you don't mind go for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: George, is he is quietly been one of the huge developments in the first two weeks?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Coming up, what is it nine months?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Buffalo and Killy's, and it's, you know, Sunday's numbers, four catches, 80 yards of touchdown, initial rating of 91.5, and this is just a second game back from in the Killy's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and he looks great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was something coming into the season that you couldn't help but wonder, you know, because,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Achilles always had been a weird thing, and it seems like we're getting to a place where this injury is more, more like ACLs had become where that was, you know, when we were growing up, that was like a death sentence, you know, an Achilles chair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, has changed to where, um, you know, it's, it's part for the course for guys to come back now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First year back versus second year back, we can make that distinction, but for him to look as good as he does after nine months, it's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he still looks like, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks like it has an explosive guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't look, I mean, he's older, coming off in a killies and he's still is a playmaker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is a wonderful thing for this team and I don't know how any of us could have expected that coming back, but it's good to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you mentioned Ben Johnson, by the way, what did they put up last week, like 59 or so?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is such an innovative play caller and kind of like Kyle was and still is, you can see it when my brother is a bear's man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I watch every game and he's a former football player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's always pointing out good with things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is that thing where you see

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'll do something one week, and then the next week you'll see that same thing in four other games because it's like the league or what is watching him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is literally, that's, you know, bill washes, hello, but he is doing some really innovative things offensively, and

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's fun to see the game evolved in a lot of those with my brothers it after last week was that you can tell all the around the league dudes are watching him and you could see it week one it was um

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[SPEAKER_00]: Correlated, correlated with the offensive explosion, a lot of teams are doing a lot of the same things that he did last season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, and defenses are really, they're just, they're not ready for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's going to be interesting as we move forward and kind of still in that conversation with Bay, there we've got a lot of really great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a lot of really great offensive minds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny that they all are kind of out of the shenanigans tree, but except for Johnson really isn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it's a fun time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you like offensive football, it is a fun time for you because right now, they are giving these defensive and good defensive hell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: offensively.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They only score three points today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I've got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and then it was the weather was awful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that is also a part of it is like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, can you scheme for pageant versus, you know, because Caleb's going to be out for a couple of weeks, probably.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you might be following that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you keep dialing it up for, you know, somebody who doesn't have that same skill set, but might be decent at something else like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll be interesting to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I know they were talking like, are they going to break the record for points in a season?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it is it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's the Denver?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's the team that owns that record?

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[SPEAKER_01]: When we were younger, I feel like it was the 85 dolphins who had that for a little bit, but in the greatest show on

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking right here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It says the 2013 Denver Broncos hold the NFL record for most points with 606 and then it's the the 07 pads, the 18 chiefs, the 2024 lions, the 2011 Packers, the 2012 Patriots and the 98 Vikings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, most of those I know Randy Moss was on two of those teams most of those teams within the last like, you know, 18 years of of of the NFL, which tells you how much the NFL has changed right, uh, yeah, you know, they're the I don't think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: those 2013 Broncos are worried about that record at that now, but you know, they could always dial it back up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You think they're like the other 72 dolphins, or they're just like, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, what, undefeated team is finally beaten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just bust out the champagne.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's let's look toward the game against the cards and you know last week the cards I'm going to put upset in quotes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They beat the chargers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They upset the chargers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the question this week was, does it mean the cardinals are good?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it mean the charges are bad?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it means the charges are probably bad because they lost to the to the Raiders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 26 to 14, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't, you know, I think the the Raiders scored late, but then Arizona plays Seattle and they just get, they get boat race, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe that that victory against the chargers was a little bit overblown, but still, you know, Seattle's probably one of the three best teams in all of football, the cards aren't built to necessarily compete with those guys yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't hold, you know, I don't take for granted the cardinals just because even when Kyler was there, they always found a way to stay competitive and they would pull games out in the fourth quarter because the Niners would just forget that Kyler Murray could run and he should drive me nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, this dude, this is his best thing against us is to wait until the pocket collapses and run up the middle and nobody is paying attention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And last year, percent beat them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't take the Cardinals for granted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do think the Niners should win this game, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what they'll be favored by, but, you know, everything, like if you look at it and go, let's say that Seattle and the Niners are comparable, or, you know, Seattle's probably even a little bit better at being the defending champs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they took care of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Arizona.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you would think that, uh, you know, the Niners should should be able to take care of of the cards too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, but it's going to be, uh, and it's a home game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This game and home next game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're you're you're chilling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're just hanging out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to travel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you're relaxing, you're playing in your practice field, your schedule's uninterrupted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think this week should be a pretty good week for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, the preliminary numbers are not quite as it's not 13 and a half, it's 8 and a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be interesting and

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think Seattle kind of gave us the blueprint.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were, the Seattle's office was basically non-functional after half time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got 44 yards in the second half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way we're playing that should, they should be able to stifle them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like you said, last season, you know, they were able to move the ball against us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now again,

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's a different year and you're different team and we're healthy and so I would expect you know them to come out and handle their business and be these guys they should be these guys it shouldn't be really a very close game I don't think so but

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know any given Sunday so I can think that but denying her dance for shouldn't just take it for granted They're gonna be able to go out there and throw their jocks in the field like I'm on a mole coat If you just say it's as beetle, you know you really got a um You know go out there and how do you business?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the preparation that they had for this game was, again, very impressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did not fall off even one bit, which I think Boadswell for next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now next week, things can happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There could be big plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There could be, you know, things injuries, whatever, to change the rhythm of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the fact that they were so prepared for this game, Boadswell,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The, you know, I think people thought this week might have been a trap game in some way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I don't think it's this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's the next game because you're you're looking, you're looking towards Denver and then Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be my only worry is that, you know, you kind of, you're just looking so forward to testing yourself against two of the teams are supposed to be two of the better teams in the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to Jacobi percent last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that probably sticks in their crawl of one of those things where they want to get that one right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to think that they that they take care of business next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll see because you know things can happen during the week that that would maybe change the the opinion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think I'm I'm looking forward to to them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: taking care of business and then then you're testing yourself against the big boys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is going to be hopefully not that test because that test will come in two and three weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like you said, though, um, even

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[SPEAKER_00]: In our heyday, going all the way back to Harbor, when we were good teams, you can never really tell what division games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's always, they're always, because you know each other so well, and I know that they're staff and whatnot, it's a different staff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, I just always think that you can't, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't just look at the statistics when we're talking about your playing inner division games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's always, I'm always more a leery of division games and you know, you see late in the season when the Thursday night games start coming, that that has borne out that the underdogs do really well in those Thursday night inner division games because you

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how much bad luck there is between us and the Cardinals, but I mean that's the only thing that I worry about is that, you know, they kind of take them for granted and that they're that the Cardinals kind of get up for an division opponent and, you know, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it

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[SPEAKER_00]: said happen, you know, so, but I hope they just continue to dot their eyes and cross their T's and come out here, just like they did today, you know, it was a, it was a dominant performance, but it was a business like performance, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't really flashy necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just came out there and played well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they do that next week, I don't think they'll be a

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't take them for granted ever, and it's because, you know, when the Niners were going good in the mid-80s, you know, people couldn't really tell us nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we were like, ah, you know, we went super goals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the game that sticks in my memory,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to say the Niners are up, I actually found the box, not not the box, but the Ellie Times piece on it from November of 1988.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Niners are up 24 to 7 in the fourth quarter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Neolomex brings the Cardinals back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: hits Roy Green for a touchdown with three seconds left in the game in Tempy to beat the Niners and like I couldn't tell you a game a certain game that happened in 2014 or 2023 But for whatever reason this game sticks in my mind because I was so mad and if you remember 1988

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[SPEAKER_01]: We all thought the Niners were good and then they just would lose these close games and it took their a streak late in the season or after the midway part for them to figure it out and to be on their way to winning the Super Bowl and it was the young in Montana like Bill Walsh is subbing them out like for certain sequences in the game crazy just and and they

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[SPEAKER_01]: and this game just like drove me nuts I was so mad like sports mad at the team and so to me when i think of the cardinals i think of that game and i'm like never take these guys for granted and you know the the percent game last year was very frustrating

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, that's like, that is the, you know, if I, if I, if I, Kyle Shanhand probably doesn't know about that game, he didn't live through that game like I didn't, but maybe someone should, should show him the box score.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, this is why we can't take these guys for granted, because Neil low max in 1988 made me so mad to, to bring the Cardinals back by hitting Roy Green in, in the end zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go back even further when we were good, you know, during that same era before before realignment when the NFC West was Atlanta in the Rams and the Saints.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The way that those teams when we were, you know, there were

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[SPEAKER_00]: often years where we would go 8-0 in division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But those guys, particularly the Saints, when they had that really good defense, you could tell it was like the Super Bowl for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're a bad team or a middleing team, but they played really hard, Ricky Jackson,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That bunch Bobby gay bear they that you could tell that they really got up for those games and even if they lost They were really trying to win those games and that you know that was my formative year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it always sticks with me that

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's an element to divisional games that you can never quite put your finger on, but the best team definitely doesn't always win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, agreed so I'm sure Kyle is going to tell them all of the reasons why this upcoming game is important and they are professionals, they've played so many football games they are going to understand why this game is important so we don't need to tell them but it's just in the back of my mind like I don't I wonder what Neil lowmax doing right now because he's just like

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, like if I could have a conversation with him, I was like, man, you're just in my head, rent free all these years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You didn't win anything wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just want a football game, just, but I was only like 12 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we'll be back next week, so the game is another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're not doing a player in the game, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, yeah, I, I, I, I, I, I didn't, I don't have a graphic anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the, I think that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you, but you just brought, I mean, it's got to be brought and it's got to be brought and it anti-climactic, you know, it was a Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll be back next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So because of my schedule, we're probably going to go later in the evening like this again for the for the 10 o'clock games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good to go after those games, but it's just the one o'clock games that I have something to do right after the Niners play at least for a couple more weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure if that's going to change or not, but so that's why we're doing this later than then at right after the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so good way to start season 2 and 0 and we'll be back next week to see if they can make it 3 and 0.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for Rod, I am WG.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will see you when we see you piece out.