SF Giants Roster Shakeup: Patrick Bailey Traded + Logan Webb Injury News | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're back with Thompson to Clark after a jekyll and hide week after a weird week whatever you want to call what last week was I was just like I don't know what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure the team is playing poorly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're pulling out wins and then they're reacting and crazy ways and trading guys and and I don't like as a fan I'm not sure what to think like personally right do you think that they are

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[SPEAKER_00]: Punting on the season, do you think they're going for it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what, what is, what are we doing right now with the current team as they sit 16 and 24 with the worst run differential in all of baseball?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've, I've thought for the last two seasons, well, I'd say,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe the last season or even less than that pretty much since the trade deadline of last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know the Devers trade was a kind of a like, let's go for a type of thing, but we didn't have the starting pitching last year either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was kind of a mess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our bullpen was okay, but after the Devers trade, they started, you know, bus started trading bullpen pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our best bullpen pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought, okay, here we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are no longer in win now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are in rebuild, but we're not going to say it out loud rebuild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's how I feel like we're still in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But a little bit more obvious now than it was in July of last season around the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's time to bring the young guys up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And as you see, Aldridge is up and we've got some of the other guys up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think this is this is kind of key.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't trade the Domest Davers Chapman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those those are not movable contracts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they were, you know, lights out and they each had 15 home runs right now, you know, this team would be better, but you could also trade them because they're tradeable pieces, even though the contracts are big, you can still work out deals to take part in the contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I thought for a while now that this is kind of a rebuild team, but yeah, I just think it's a little more obvious.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm okay with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I enjoy it because I want to see the young guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see the draft picks that we've had over the last couple of seasons and the pieces we've traded for like Jesus Rodriguez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see them come up and I want to see them, you know, do something in the majors and get their time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I know you just said that they're going to play the young guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yet Bryce Eldridge did not even start yesterday, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's not starting again tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's not starting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't even know if you read this because I just saw it come through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tony Vatello basically said, in all of the games that Bryce doesn't play, they're going to try and get him a pinching opportunity, which tells me it is devours and Schmidt instead of Eldridge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they are playing the young guys, I don't know that that's the way to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is why I'm just kind of confused about the path that they are taking, the journey that they are taking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We both said, and I've maybe been a little bit harder on this than you, if elders are just coming up, I want the development,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want him to play every day through, through good times, through bad times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to get his at bats up because he simply has not played enough in his big lead career for you to have an idea of what he truly is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the other day, he yanked that home run on that inside pitch that, you know, bounced into the water.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, wow, if he could do that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he could hit that inside pitch, then these teams can't just bury him on the inside like if he could hold on that one and and showcase that power and it's like

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[SPEAKER_00]: great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see him come up the next day, and I want to see the attack him on the inside again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Vatell was like, no, he's not playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was just like, why is he up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is the reason for him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he hits his first ever big league home run, and he doesn't play the next day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's just, yeah, and sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, yeah, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I was going to say it's a, it's, yeah, play the young kids I want to see young kids play, but it's a slow grind right now to get there and it is frustrating to see, but I would not be shocked where it's male 11th or recording this on male 11th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would not be shocked if Luis arises not on this team at the end of May because I think you've got to open that spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you send Elnerage back down in a week or two, that's disastrous, he's up, he's got to stay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in order to make that room, if you're still eight games under 500 at the end of May, I don't see Luis arise being here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to get moved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His gold glove caliber right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I keep touting that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gold glove caliber right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's hitting three ten right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's stolen four or five bags, I think, or maybe even six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's hot right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody is going to want him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cleveland Guardians need more of it wasn't a package deal because then you open up that spot you put Casey Schmidt at second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you've got Devers and Eldridge at first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be able to DH one of those guys and have the other guy place first first base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to be able to kind of move down around a little bit and then you've got Asus Rodriguez who's kind of this super utility guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who can also play second base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now you've got three second baseman, three first baseman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's got to be a move that's made and sending elders down and not letting him play after another week or so I think that's a disaster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You make a great point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: arise and this is this is why sports is also business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They promised him an opportunity to play second he's been he's done a much better job than I think anybody could have ever predicted as far as how well he's played at second and he's also their most consistent hitter at the same time so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What value does he provide on a team that has the worst run differential in baseball, where you could then do what you said, which is get more A B's for younger guys, especially if you don't really consider yourself a contender and I don't know if Buster will ever say that because no, no, because he signed these three dudes, or he traded for one of them devours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to be competitive and to carry the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you could just look at, if you looked at the season through the lens of yesterday's game, that's kind of what they did, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were the guys that you've been hoping that they were going to be for the entire year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if your buster knowing that those contracts like you said are unsradable, I still think if Chapman gets hot,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he shows that he can hit 250 and hit 20 jacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think you can move him to a team that is kind of on the cusp and who maybe thinks that they're like one guy away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could be that for some folks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think a Domus is contract is dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is absolutely dead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ken Rosenthal had a piece today in the athletic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you kind of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Raise your eyebrows a little bit when Rosenthal starts sniffing around the ball club because he's like the number one MLB reporter out there, yeah, and he was a little bit on the fence with Buster and Vatelo, which to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: really meant that what he probably thought was a little bit more negative but he wanted to be nuanced in his reporting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just the way that he was writing that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was no early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was no glowing praise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like here the facts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Vitello's a little bit

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[SPEAKER_00]: out of scope as a big league manager, it's because he's not like he can yell at these guys because he doesn't have that credibility with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's kind of stuck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, busters, the one who's put this team together and busters one who put it on this bullpin, like we've been talking about this entire season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And busters big signings were Molly and Houser who are,

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[SPEAKER_00]: below war pictures essentially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what is Buster have to stand on well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He what he has to stand is like I'm not going to sit back and wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make a move and they did trading Patrick Bailey for tugboat and a first round and a first round a draft pick from the guardians.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this the first year that they've been able to trade actual picks?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I don't think it's every pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you can trade actual first round picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a compensatory pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And from what I've read, that's why they were able to trade that pick because it's a comp pick and not just their actual first round picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, that makes a little bit of sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Patrick Bailey, 2020, first round pick

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... the organization and everything that we heard about him even when he was younger was that he was going to be an ace defensively and he was going to struggle hitting and i think he was probably even better defensively than we thought he would be and maybe even worse offensively and we thought he would be especially this year and i still hold to the point of view that if he was hit in two thirty instead of one thirty

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they would have continued to keep him because that the defense is good enough to where if he just got two more hits a week, you know, maybe it's worth it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he was such a poor hitter this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder what it like I wonder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you think about other guys in this lineup, you think about other guys trying to get opportunities, like we were talking about, uh, jarara and carnacio and how he's like the right-handed power off the bench and they weren't even hitting him against lefties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like if you're not hitting him against lefties, why is he on this club?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They eventually they eventually defade him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He he cleared waivers and he opted to be a free agent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not coming back to the organization, at least at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're in carnacio and in your like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have so few opportunities yet our catcher goes one for ten every series and he's just in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder what that does for the dugout or for the clubhouse or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Patrick really was so bad and his right-handed swing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I swear to God, I was like, did he just learn how to hit right-handed this year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you and I were to go and go back to high school and you know, there's sometimes when like you're out by like 20 runs or whatever Like I'm gonna hit left handed in this game like our land was full ball all the time I tried to hit the real Clark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, our love handed swing would have looked exactly like Patrick Bailey's right-handed swing this year It was so bad and I just like had you know, how do you as a big leader?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're just working on this one skill over and over like taking batty press every day every day every day

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[SPEAKER_00]: and you're getting worse, not better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was what was just, I think, heartbreaking, probably for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I always think of, like, Cruco as a little bit of the, the temperature gauge of the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's pretty hard on that dude sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, later, and that's your, that's your leader.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the, that was the most frustrating thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if Patrick Bailey's defense was mid, and he was not hitting, then you just kind of be like, okay, not a big deal, but you're pushing for the guy because his defense is so valuable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're pushing so hard for him to get hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's May 11th and he's played almost every single day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got a one extra base hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think at 52, I could go out there and maybe accidentally run into a double.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, maybe or two doubles down the line with my speed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of what's frustrated and watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got this catch with this great defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got one extra base hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: this entire season and something like a hundred at bats almost it's just I mean that that number was the most baffling to me when I saw that number a couple of days ago I go I don't think I've seen that in years and years and years from anybody not even

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[SPEAKER_01]: not even Johnny Lomaster, not even Brad Wellman, John Brad Wellman, Johnny Lomaster is like two times the hit or that Patrick Bailey is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then because, you know, it's baseball and you want to see, I go to the reddit, Cleveland Guardian's subreddit, and I'm looking, and they're like, this is an upgrade over Bonaylor, and I look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought, how is this even possible?

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[SPEAKER_01]: BoneAlors OPS plus right now is 32 and Patrick Bailey's is 16.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So boneAlors actually had double the OPS plus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is not, they're not getting an upgrade offensively for boneAlors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're getting just a defensive guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And of course, unfortunately, in his first gaming goes over three, but the strike out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's replaced later in the game, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a guy with a, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that has become the defense of replacement over the last week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now he's getting replaced later in the game because they need a situational hitter and the pinchator who came in for him is they're one of their backup catchers and he got a hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like I think it's kind of run into the same situation in Cleveland that he's going to, you know, that he's had with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how patient the fans are going to be there because they are also not hitting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're 15 and 15 or something like that and in first place, it's 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So at least you went to a first place team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, good for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I don't wish harm on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the flip side, the flip side is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if the guys who get paid the big money to hit were hitting, you can overcompensate for some of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But because they have been so bad, and again, you look at what Patrick Bailey makes, versus what Devers and Adamus makes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not anywhere sniffing with those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So from that perspective, the guys you pay big bucks to be the team leaders, as far as driving in runs, they're not doing anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it makes Patrick Bailey,

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[SPEAKER_00]: look even worse because they cannot compensate for his lack of offensive ability right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just yeah, it's it was hard to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really was just kind of hard to watch because he come up and you go in a basis loaded situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess I can walk away right now because I'm with two hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think we're going to scorny runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then when Rodriguez came up yesterday with the bases loaded, I was thinking of my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I go, this guy has a great chance of getting a hit because he's 300 plus hitter in the miners and he's been hitting for us and he came up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought this

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[SPEAKER_01]: this is a great opportunity and just, you know, gets jammed and flips it in a right field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Opposite field drops in for a base hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ellie, it's almost killing us, almost didn't score.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you think about that last inning because that Chapman hits that fly ball down the line and the right fielder kind of tiptoes the foul line and then drops the ball and it's a fair ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was trying to play back in my mind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm like, he cannot really go halfway because if the guy catches it, he's got to be able to tag up and get to third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I still feel like, could he not see is it was the sun in his eyes because his reactions were so bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not only on that plate, he get to third, but then on the blupper for Rodriguez to come home, again, he had to read the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like, what is, uh, what was Cuiper screaming at him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, and I thought, oh, maybe the right field are deek them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on the replay, he didn't deek them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just gave up on the ball, because he knew it was going to be a base hidden.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just dropped in front of him and, and he'd lolly gagged after it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rama's lawly gagged, oh my god, what is going on?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought this would be perfect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The 2026 giants, if he gets thrown out at home, because there's a forced play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he, all he has to do, if O'Hurn comes in and grabs the ball right away and throws it into home, Rama says out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: by 45 feet because he's not even halfway home at that point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I thought that back could have been ugly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, luckily you gotta get home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You gotta get home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we need a little more oomph in this team a little more, you know, a little more just kind of punching the gut and get going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, yeah, that's a great point because that's what I was thinking too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm waiting, and this is what is I thought this was why they got Vatello, which is the urgency like yes, when are we going to put the gas put the foot to the get on the gas pedal and just say, hey, we need to go on a run here because what it looks like now we know we don't know what's being said in the locker room, what's being what talks are happening, but what it looks like is they're just waiting for it to magically turn on there they're just like we're going to keep playing our game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the luck is going to come our way and we're going to get back to being good office baseball team, but when you look at that walk rate, they're not getting on base for those reasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you hire a batting instructor and a whole team strategy for offense and the idea is we're putting the ball in play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like great, but what's happening is you're either striking out or you are making outs in the field, you are not getting on base in any other way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know what the thing is, what is it going to be a player who kind of gets them started?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it going to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, someone just going on a run like because the current strategy is not to be patient, it is to attack the ball and hope that you're attacking the ball inside the strike zone and getting some good pitches to hit, but these guys are missing all of these pitches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, I don't know what what you can actually gauge by their their current offensive strategy outside of how is this all this stuff going to change it seems like it's just going to be exactly the same based on the way that they play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and like you said, too, when they hired Vitalo, I thought, oh, we're going to be playing that urgent baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, you could play smart baseball and urgent baseball at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's is at easy to do for 162 games, probably not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when you're down 121, I think the urgency

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the the fire can disappear a little bit and then that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be off for about five or six innings after you go down 12-1.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to happen but in a in a three-two ball game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know like like Charlie Daniels, I don't know if you're familiar with the Charlie Daniels band.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're old school, but you know, they have some lyrics in the uneasy writer song, you know, the playing like their heads were on fire and their asses were catching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where I want to see a little bit more out of the giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, just like ball drops in, we're almost sprint home, get home, score that run, let's get out of there and be gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't even make it a question where, you know, it's possible you might get throwing out at home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: play with a little bit more fire a little bit more urgency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't know what it did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to bring that about?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you see your everyday catcher who's been your everyday catcher for the last three seasons get traded because he's not hidden.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was, you know, it just wasn't happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so Buster moved on, which again, I love the move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm fine with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm, you could even say I'm happy with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because I, there's that hole in the line up that now is gone and, and it's filled with with suesac who we've seen hit small sample size Rodriguez who we've seen hit small sample size, but still they're at bats are going to be more competitive and I think that's kind of what we're looking for competitive at bats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't remember what the situation was yesterday, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we had a runner at second and I blinked and he's down O2 because he took the first two pitches right down the middle of the plate and he swung it one that was in the dirt and that well that's not an urgent at bat that's not a good at bat that's not a smart at bat it's just a frustrating at bat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah it's a waste of it at bat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So some other moves that they made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bader is back up tonight now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The game against the Dodgers, the series starts for gamer in L.A. starts tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are recording about an hour and a half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: About an hour or an hour and change before the game actually starts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we won't have any information about the actual game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the series kicks off tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Harrison Bader is back with the big club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is in the lineup tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, and Tristan Beck is also up from AAA, Logan Porter, who was the catcher that they had purchased the contract of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Dylan Smith, who was the reliever that they brought up yesterday, those guys are going back to their option to clear these spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't even want to pour one out for this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Walker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Back to AAA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, that's a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't even be unbiased about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No player has frustrated me more than Ryan Walker in the last several years just because of how inconsistent and how

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[SPEAKER_00]: just not confident on the mound he looks when he pitches and yet we can't putting him in these like super intense heavy spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was just like seemed to be the plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, nope, we're just going to keep throwing them out there because if because this stuff is good and he'll figure it out and I'm like, no, he does not have the heart for this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does not have the stomach for this inning, like he needs to be in, you know, the sixth inning, not the ninth inning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So how

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[SPEAKER_00]: I imagine the goal is to try and fix him and bring him back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be in triplet, but they brought up Henkis who I think they've been waiting on and I know fully is kind of on his way back as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully, you know, this was Buster's plan, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The reason why he didn't make any adjustments to the bullpen is because he had these guys that were injured and coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These moves if these guys are lights out can make him look really smart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't imagine that they're just going to come in and be all of a sudden, you know, Mariana Rivera of the mid 90s.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine that's the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But hopefully, there will be a little bit of settling with roles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know Eric Miller went on the deal, but he's about, you know, he's starting his rehab stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully he's back soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that just so many changes of late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Logan Web to the D.L.

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[SPEAKER_00]: as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you think about all the movement that's going on with the pitching right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's kind of funny too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I put together this thing earlier today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking, man, I feel like we've made like moves to half the roster since since opening day, but then I looked and the only relievers, you know, that the bullpen started with Walker Miller

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those three guys are not on the roster right now and two of them are because of injuries and Ryan Walker is the one sent down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Barackie Gage, Brubaker, Kilian and Wynn were the other guys who started the season in the bullpen and they're still there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So really, there's only like three spots that have kind of been rotating and mostly because of injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good with trying to find those relievers because again, we're talking about the Dodgers series by the time you listen to this we're going to be one game into maybe two games into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The last time we play at the Dodgers, we won the series, two games to three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The guy who closed and went and helped win those two games was Ryan Walker, both of those games, he got to save in both of the wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those were like his bad performances of the year, I thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not there now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if you're playing the Dodgers, let's just use them as an example.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not confident in a three, two ball game right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because I don't know who's bitch in the seventh eighth and ninth inning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, killing and still giving up runs, even though he's coming into quote unquote clothes right now, because I don't think we have a true closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but he's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's the answer to the ninth inning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who the answer to the seventh and eighth is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm a little worried.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of like if you go into a Dodger series, they're not hitting right now, although mookie bets is back in the series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Dodgers aren't hitting right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with you, but I want to...

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[SPEAKER_00]: give some context.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Dodgers version of not hitting versus the Giants version.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, yeah, the Dodgers are like, well, they're scoring four rounds again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like a plus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Giants are like a minus 48.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when we talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the judges, OPS plus, I think, is still the best in baseball, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have been faltering.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They, I think that the Giants are three and seven in the last 10 and the Dodgers are four and six in their last 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: scared.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to give people hope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, well, no, but I wanted I wanted to provide the context because yeah, no, I kind of like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: first world problems kind of thing like yeah the Dodgers have problems if you're comparing them to the previous two years but if you're comparing them to our team we're like we'll trade you right now like give us your problems and we'll give you our problems and I will take all of your problems please but you know what this might be one of the funky seasons where the giants are just not a good team

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yet, they can beat the Dodgers, you know, two out of three games and map you one of those things because, you know, there were, there were times when the giants were going on to, you know, world series isn't it was like, Why are we losing to the Dodgers in these, you know, in these games and, and, you know, the last year,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It didn't the last couple of years that have felt like we've been that competitive with them, but then in the series, this year, they played them lights out, so that might be the cases that we may just be able to play them lights out while they are, while they do not have things going like, you saw, you see the stuff was show, hey, where he's not even hitting when he's pitching these days because of, you know, whatever it is and then he pitches and he pitches a gym and then they don't score any runs and I'd be like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the hell man like I could put my bat in the line and get give me give me my bat at that's again, like I don't like this plan, but he's like, ah, you know, we'll figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, you know, he's being a professional, but like, yeah, so well, and you know, that's the thing too is is this is a, this is kind of an important season because

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we may be out of it already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I still let's figure it out in June.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the giants right now in the all-time series against the Dodgers going back to the history of the two teams playing against each other, the giants have a one-game lead on the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is an important season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The giants need to open up that lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, so like you said, this could be one of those years or the giants aren't as good as the Dodgers, but they own them this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be important because I'd love to go into the off season with the giants up five games in the all time series, because I, it's something like the giants have like 1300 wins and the Dodgers have 1299.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's pretty close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have the exact numbers, but But yeah, I want that lead at the end of the season if we're not going to win.

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[UNKNOWN]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so what else happened?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I guess if we want to talk about the home the the last six games of the homestay or the I guess that was the homestay and they they played three against the Padres and they played one good game and two just like put put me to sleep baseball games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The truest of true giants fans hung through that game, but they lost by like double digit runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then yesterday, it looked like it was like, okay, you know, we may not get out of this thing with the wind and then they fight back and they tie it and they go into 12 and then they went in 12.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like, there's fight and then there's laydown and there's fight and then there's laydown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can't figure out the rhythm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in these games where they get down early, sometimes they're able to get back and they'll get close and they'll play like like yesterday's game and then there are others like the second game of the pirate series where they get down and you're like, okay, why don't you guys just like let's call this one in because there's nothing going on like it's it's very clear that there's no interest in this game so this is kind of weird how up and down they play I just wish you know I'd be come I'd be happier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if there was a little bit more consistency and maybe you don't win a game like yesterday, but maybe you lose the Saturday game 13 to 10 because you fight back and fight back and fight back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, I just, I don't like how you can kind of call the game in sometimes just because you can tell by the way that they're playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then other games, you're like, oh, that's the kind of baseball that we want them to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just so frustrating to watch because

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it should be like yesterday's game like every single game like that's that they they should like that and and you know, they don't I know some people will go like well yeah the other team and you can't but you can just tell man you can just tell yeah when they're into it and when they're not into it collectively.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think every team is going to have a turkey that's just going to be how it is, but but we've had a lot of turkeys for this point of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's where it's frustrating because we've also been shot out what six times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I think I think games like Saturday are magnified for us right now as Giants fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We see everything right now is magnified.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything is huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just going to get numb to it at some point in it's going to be like, oh, well, you know, June 17th, we lost to the one, it's, you know, that's, that's this team this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope we're more competitive next year, but right now it's, it's frustrating because we did have the high hopes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think we're, we're seeing that collectively as a group or just like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How can Saturday look like that, but we have a really nice wind Friday, a really nice wind Sunday, fight, fight, fight, and then we have a turkey on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take a turkey every like three weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, remember the Dodger series where they won those first two games and then we were like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: go for the throat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were like, no, we're fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're winning those two games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't not care about game three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, I hate to think of baseball like that, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think it's just because also the bullpen situation too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about, you know, earlier in the show, how bad this bullpen is or not bad, but just how,

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[SPEAKER_01]: inconsistent and you cannot telegraph what this bullpen is right now you you know who's pitching where but I think it's a situation where you got to bring in a reliever and you won the first two games of the Dodgers series and then you and then you know you you're you're

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[SPEAKER_01]: your starter gets knocked out and you've got to bring in a reliever and he's getting bumped around and you're like, well, we have another series starting tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So or actually starting Friday, it was a day off Thursday and that was a Wednesday game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to just leave them out there and let them take his lumps and work on some things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, I don't feel like

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like baseball has kind of gotten that way, major league baseball lately, because guys throw so hard, you can't have your your star relievers go out there and throw two or three innings and get a bunch of outs because they're throwing so hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to have your mid relievers come in and maybe, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: do what they can and and you're already down six one and now they've given up three runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm just going to leave them out there because I can't throw out my guy who throws 100 miles an hour when I got a three game series with the pirates coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I think baseball's just kind of gotten there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard for us to accept because we're so used to back in the day when you're down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 5161, you can fight back and maybe win because you've got a of reliever who can come in and throw three innings of shutout baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just don't have that right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have, you know, those guys to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this series against Dodgers, like you mentioned, Mookie is back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't look like Mookie is going to be playing every day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to bring him along a little bit more slowly because of that oblique injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tyler, glass now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: back on the deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only for Blake's now to come off of the deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, with Blake's now, and you know, Blake's now, you know, his return to the mountain meant a method of my three innings get out of there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, hit my limit very quickly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: got got got to save myself, you know, I did pitch deep into the world series last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got to rest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but, you know, they, they tough, tough life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They, uh, you know, I think there is a certain part of that fan base that is like, you know what, this seems to be a lot better than it currently is, but then I think those, a lot of those

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when when the 162 game season when you take that into account, usually it kind of spreads itself out and things happen the way that they're going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think most people think this is like a hundred win Dodger team in any way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, when you have that much talent and you put that much money into that roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, are they a 92 win team or they a 95 win team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would take that personally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be like I'm signing up for that and I don't care how we get there if I get my 92 wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good, but you know, Dodger fans have expectations right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't expect the giants to go in there and take three out of four because it's just not how this season is going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a Dodgers team that has expectation, a Dodgers team that is going through some injuries right now, Roki Sasaki is starting tonight's game against the giants and he has struggled this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there may be two out of four that you can grab.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, would I bet money on it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would not, but I would love to see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see them compete with this Dodgers team this week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if they could split it, I'd be super happy right now because again, I don't have faith in the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what's scaring me the most.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the giants, if they're going to win,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, two games in this series, I think it's going to be, they're going to have to score often, they're going to have to score early, they're going to have to get to Yamamoto early like they did in the game in San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because if you're if you're going into later innings and it's a three-two ball game it's just kind of a wing and a prayer at that point because again I've Ryan Walker looked so good in in the two games that he saved against the Dodgers I if Caleb Gillian came in I wouldn't have the same confidence but it would be you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what we can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think the giants are going to take two in this one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've got to have a couple of games where they score quite a few runs and score them early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they play the...

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[SPEAKER_00]: At the Sacramento A's, what are, what do they just the athletics, what do they just called the athletics now yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they go to Sacramento for three and then they go to the Diamondbacks for three next week before they come home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's a nice 10 game road trip against two of your division foes and one of your former Bay Area rivals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, it's going to be some, like, I want to say important, you know, 10 games, but I don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if it's important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is the reason for them to,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, to really go out there and play great ball, knowing what we know, you know, maybe to just fight back to normalcy, like, can you use 500 is like a goal, you know, you do have the Diamondbacks or several games in front of you, you know, the the podgers are actually in first place over the Dodgers, but like a half a game, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think 500, I mean, if you play 500 baseball, your eight games better than you are now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, I think that's an improvement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, I think, honestly, if anybody needs it, it's $25, he's the one who really needs it because if you can finish out from here to the rest of the season, strong, make a case for yourself, going into next year, Giants fans are going to have a lot of confidence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to think, okay, let's look at the off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what we can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, we've seen, Wizz and Hunt is pitching really well in the minors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: TJ McDonnell is, I believe he gets to start tonight, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Monday night, he pitched greatness first start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see what he can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because then if you can have, you're not going to have Robbie Ray next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's another trade that he may, yeah, he may get moved, kind of like what you were saying about a rise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and he's pitching so well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that would be great because you can get a nice return.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're going to have next year, you're going to have web, group, and then you could possibly have a whizz in hunt, and then McDonald.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's going to be, I think it's, is Maui the one who's on the, oh no, how's there's on the two-year Bowser?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to be Bowser again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if Bowser is my five-guy, nah, that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not fantastic, but if you've got four other guys,

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[SPEAKER_01]: who are pitching really well in front of them next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we might, I think we're going to see Wizz and Hunt and TJ McDonald more this season at the majors because at some point you're going to have a quote unquote fan of injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have somebody who's going to have a dead arm and is going to need 15 days off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's gonna happen, I mean, and like with Logan Webb right now, he's got the neighbor side is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does that get better?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, it's a neat thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could go one way or the other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully it's just something simple, something light can be taken care of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I think it's important that the giants finish out at least a 500 club from here to the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And make that eight game improvement and just give everybody a little bit of hope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you just tank for the number one pick next year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to see with the lottery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think you can do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we didn't tank last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We finished 500, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Close 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we got the number four picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is the team that had the worst record last year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was the Rockies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they didn't end up the white socks ended up with the number one pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Rockies were the worse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they got the number five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh gosh, that's terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, all right, you know, it was a crazy week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm, I'm interested to see what Buster does, like you said, could be a rise, could be Robbie Ray.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure who else is actually out, you know, guys on shorter deals like Bader, those guys could be movable as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Bob Nightingale had the thing in his piece about how they would love to get out of junk who leaves contract, they would love to get out of a Domest in Chapman and Devers, of course, but like you said, they're not movable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you do have to find some other pieces if you do want to find ways to maybe kickstart the team or get some folks motivated to play some better baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You may need some more Drew Gilbert's, but it's not like Drew Gilbert is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, is driving things, he's not driving the bus back to, you know, I'll have said we have this firey team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like he's like, I've saw all of these old guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't want to do anything, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Drew Gilbert is like Luis Matos, but, but, you know, younger and controllable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that, that's the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at their numbers, it's kind of the same guy, but, of course, with Gilbert, you get a little more fire, you get,

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[SPEAKER_01]: better hitting against righties and you get better defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was a good move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think to get that fourth outfit or he's not being sent down I thought when Bader came back Gilbert was gonna be sent down, but I think we're gonna see Gilbert off the bench against righties Which is gonna be really nice because then you've got two lefties in an elder edge, which I hate you know Again, we hate to say that I bet elder edge off the bench

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Eldrige and you got Gilbert off the bench to lefty's late in the game because because Gilbert's a good defensive replacement to get a righty out of the lineup and then And then you could bring an Eldrige at some point to also to play first base late in the game if you got it Especially if you're playing against a team that's got some dominant a right handed pitching late in the game Then you you've got Eldrige off the bench.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So All right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll be back next week to talk about

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[SPEAKER_00]: hopefully some better baseball, some more consistent baseball, or there's just going to be more news about movement and transactions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And craziness, which like the fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, honestly, if your team is not going to be good, at least there can be information and news about the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, as bad as this week wasn't even that bad, it was just the vibes were a little bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They went 500, they made some noise, they changed some players around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're still trying, and at least it's interesting to that extent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For Brad, I am double G, we will see you when we see you piece out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.