Hayden Birdsong Injury Update & Logan Webb’s Hall of Fame Path | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brian and I should be back Tuesday, uh, we're going to record Tuesday probably for Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're going to take a little bit of a time out from the Warriors focus on

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll still do some more years content and post that on YouTube but from a podcast perspective, I think we're gonna focus a little bit more with Pot Hallows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I love a new podcast cover art for that and everything and that'll get kickstarted to tomorrow for Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But okay, so we're here talking giant to baseball and as we speak, we are like nine days out of opening day here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which is pretty amazing to think about and we are smack dab in the middle of the semi finals and the finals for the world baseball classic will break down a little bit more about team USA later in the show but I don't know man rewatching that strike three call last night

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean, obviously it's time for ABS, but I mean, that that's what I the hard the thing I don't understand is I get it, okay, you're not going to use it on pool play because you have teams playing in Japan, yeah teams playing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, in Puerto Rico, you've got, so you've got people playing all over the place, but now the games are in Houston and Miami those stadiums have to be ready for ABS in right nine to ten days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're they're in there and they're ready to go So why not just use him for that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's not like this is a

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not like this is the world series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're all of a sudden in the world series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're introducing a new rule or anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll kick off this show with a little bit of bad news here with someone who we were hoping had a better spring, but at least now we have a reason for him to not have had as good of a spring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is Hayden burdensome bird song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a forearm strain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has a UCL sprain, which usually means Tommy John surgery is on the horizon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, Devon explicitly said that that is what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we cannot state for fact right now on this date at this time that we're talking about this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not great for him, probably pretty frustrating, but at least he has some answers as to why he hasn't been doing so well end of last year to early this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The only question I have is, like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder when the discomfort started, and we know because we played baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have kind of a sore arm or a sore elbow, like, okay, that's just kind of the deal with playing baseball a lot, and, you know, as you get older,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're the soul looking forward to like your one game a week, you know, if you're playing city ball or whatever, I always had a sore arm and it was just like, well, I'm going to play this one game or maybe this second game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'll deal with the sore arm for the next six days until I have to play again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, these big leaders, it just seems like I will, I wonder if they.

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[SPEAKER_00]: thought that that could be the case or maybe he didn't complain about it or maybe it just happened recently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, if you can kind of pin together like all of a sudden, he loses control of his fastball last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can't throw strikes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They sent him to the miners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has terrible time in the miners comes into spring training.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's terrible again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems like maybe they could have pinpointed an injury previously, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're experts and they have doctors and stuff and we're just kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, doing a little bit of the Monday morning quarterback in here, but I'm kind of bummed out for him, but at least maybe this is for him, at least he has some answers as to what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, like we always said to when we played ball and like you said, City League and some I pro and high school and everywhere we played, we'd always say we're part dinosaur because we were mega sore somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Either we had Megasaur arm or Megasaur knee or back or whatever it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, I listen to the pot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Pavlovitch, and he said he asked birds on when, you know, was this something that affected you last season, the numbers started falling off the control, or they said, no, I didn't feel it until my second to last pitch in the game I just pitched in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he said he was totally fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know 100% off as it's it's just normal sornus like yeah it's hard to say but I mean he said he felt a little twin just something happened and it was kind of from there the rest of the way he was just kind of his arm was painful and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, everything that, you know, those two things, though, the UCL and the other thing, usually lead to Tommy John Surgery, and then, unfortunately, that might be the case, but, you know, still holding out hope, hoping that's not 100% the case, but we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as far as the giants are concerned this year in the rotation, I think we

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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty much new bird song was not going to be in the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had signed two pictures in the offseason to kind of take up those, you know, one of the two of the three four or five spots landed roop is the other one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So bird song wasn't going to start in rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could have been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: us a reliever early on more than likely he was going to be a depth arm as you get through this season knowing what we know about how starting rotations work where you don't really need five guys you kind of need like eight or nine guys and so that's where he was probably going to fit in if he had figured it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Tommy John as we know Randy Rodriguez going through it right now, he's going to miss all of the season if that is the diagnosis and he gets surgery and so it'll be something where they take a look again at him next year when he's not hurt and when he's on the mend and he's on the comeback so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our Hayden birds on conversation gets punished to 2027 and we're just going to be as hopeful as we were about him next year as we were this year because he did show signs of somebody who could actually pitch at the big league level we saw some really good performances by him to where you were like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: wait a second here is he really going to be a guy for us and then of course the second half of last year he just falls off completely and then you know they got to send him down so yeah bummer but you know hopefully this is something that he can build on and you know I've mentioned the story before you talk to

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[SPEAKER_00]: anybody in baseball and they're like yeah like if you're a pitcher a lot of the times if you are throwing hard you're more than likely to have to deal with this at some point and you know back in the day back in the day you know like a rare I remember hearing stories of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: kids who wanted to be big leaders and they were getting the surgery so early just to kind of get it out of the way, you know, even before they were adults and like that was some of this craziness going on, but, you know, hopefully this is something that he can build from and he's still young enough to where he will come back from it and hopefully be better than ever because then he won't have this situation to deal with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it'd be nice to see and hopefully we have enough young arms that can kind of help us out in the meantime this year and in Wizz and Hunt and Trevor McDonald coming around Carson Seymour.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, it's we're getting like you said we're getting to the last like nine to ten days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I say nine to ten days because we open a nine days rest of the league opens in ten days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: guys are starting to get sent back down, you know, giants announced a whole host of guys that are going to the minor league spring training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's going to start happening with other teams, but other teams are going to be in situations where they need to start adding players to their 40 man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they're going to have some other guys that didn't quite make the cut and they can't send them back down to minorly camps So they're going to be looking to trade them or try to pass them through waivers and then put them down into triple it So the giants might have a you know some guys to choose from in the starting rotation here coming up soon Not not in the starting five obviously we've got that said, but we're talking about guys who you can pick up

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and maybe trade for, um, but again, if you're trading for them and you're getting them and they're on the 40 man, the giants have to have a position open for the 40 man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, they're about to because they're about to have one for Randy Rodriguez, they're about to have one for eight and birds on most likely, um, on the 60 man, I L, 60 day I L. So there's two guys right there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: can bigger will be there possibly, um, I mean, there's there's there's other players that the giants probably could put on the 60 day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I also they are going to have a few spots open, but it's going to be a little tricky.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is the time here where we see a cluster shine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be able to rock roster machinations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly, we love that we love the back end of the roster, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We love like 37 to 40 because you never know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sometimes you look at the 40.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's times midway through this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll look at the 40 man roster and I go, who the hell is that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you know, he's number 40.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's the things need to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's your first guy move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's sneak in him through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll be interesting to roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll get into the WBC conversation in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I said, my dad texted us after Team USA beat Canada, and the why they were in this position will also talk about of this must win game against the Canada, it must win, and then you need help from Italy, against Mexico.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But so he was like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: is does Logan Webb actually have a Hall of Fame case or chance?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought about it for second because immediately you're like, nah, gosh, he's so young, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I thought about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, you know what, this is like a projection thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if if Logan Webb is the same Logan Webb that he's been for the next five years, like what does this Hall of Fame case look like?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought it was kind of an interesting idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, the reason why Hall of Fame is kind of on the mind of Giants fans is obviously can't going in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bonds not going in, but next year, the possibility of Pozy and Bochi.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we always talk about the announcers as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, Dusty Baker, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we always talk about, you know, when's Crouppen type, going to Crouppen type, going to get in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I started thinking, yeah, like who other than those guys, like who would be kind of next on the list?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it might be someone like Logan Webb, like as far as someone who has a realistic opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I kind of looked it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But before I even kind of dig into the numbers,

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[SPEAKER_00]: instinct on the idea of a Logan Web kind of on the path to to that level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to pull up his numbers real quick because I would say

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see how many seasons let's see where we're going into our 29 year old season here right now I think it's going to turn 30 this season right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, well, maybe it's near the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, it's worthizing November.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is technically his 29 year old season because he doesn't turn 30 during the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... so he's he's pitched in you know for the giants for seven years uh... hit the twenty twenty season in their uh... erays the first two seasons were over five but again we're talking about eight games on the first season two thousand nineteen two thousand twenty uh... short and season thirteen games eleven starts who got roughed up a little bit

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he did lead the league that you're in hit, uh, hit batsman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that, that running sinker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's heavy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'll stick to your body.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Too easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually hit 36 people in his career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully 36 of them were Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That'd be great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but you look at the last three seasons build on the last three seasons, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 26, 27, 28 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He led the league and innings pitched all three of those seasons, led the league and strikeouts last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has an overall ERA plus of 120, that alone, if he pitched four, five, six more years, having an ERA plus in the 120, 125 range with longevity, that could get you in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His FIP, right around 3.01, antiquated stat, but as ERA is 3.38.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know his his hits per nine right around eight points six strikeouts per nine around eight point four doesn't walk a ton of people to point one per nine You know it's it's gonna be tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say he needs He needs at least three more seasons like he had the last three but but then again, I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the line forgetting in to the Hall of Fame for pictures is probably going to be dropping over the next couple of classes I'd take five years from now especially and Logan Web is going to be more than five years from now is class.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you're seeing guys go five innings, six innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to be one of the last guys who's going seven or eight innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and possibly nine innings, so I think when his time comes to get elected and he's up for election, let's say he retires in four or five years, that's another five year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're looking at 10 years from now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be a dinosaur, they're going to look at his innings pitched in his career and they're going to go, oh my god, that guy is in the Hall of Fame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because again, you're looking at guys like snow, who, yeah, snow could be a Hall of Fame for sure as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has a better chance of Logan Webb, but he's only pitching five innings, you know, four innings, five innings, walking a lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Logan Webb stats are going to look really, really good in terms of volume.

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[SPEAKER_01]: against a lot of the other picture so I think that right there could possibly get in it get him in just the comparable stats because you can't take him and go well him against Nolan Ryan him against you know Madison Bumgarner even it's not going to be much of a comparison because those guys

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[SPEAKER_01]: are those guys went nine innings they went eight innings nine innings it was a different era of baseball um so yeah i think you're gonna look at comparable stats and say yeah he's probably could get in if he keeps again i want to see three four more seasons at least like the last three okay here's what the numbers say

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[SPEAKER_00]: The numbers say and now we're comparing it against guys who are already in the Hall of Fame and like you said that is always changing because of how baseball has changed right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to need to be what you said and who he is as an innings eater.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And somebody who's, you know, upwards in the mix for first strikeouts, but he's going to have to do that for many more years, not just four or five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to have to do be be able to do this into his like mid to late 30s more than likely now the way that he throws he doesn't it though the way that looks like he throws at least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it doesn't look like he's really taxing himself to too much?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he doesn't, you know, he doesn't throw 98.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, let's just put it that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He uses other things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's going to have to continue to be the innings eater.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably going to have to win a sion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he's finished in second before he did get a gold glove.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did lead the analyst track out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's are nice things for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the sion seems to be kind of like, you know, one of those things that that will be necessary for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: his war as it stands right now is he's going to need to more than double his current war in order to get in the range of guys who are on the lower end of that uh... you know royale a cc subat the guys like that he's going to have to more than than double his current war and we're looking at

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he's not going to get the wins that a lot of these other guys have, you know, baseball's way different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's only got, I think, 70 wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe in his entire career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His strikeouts will be in the mix if he continues on that path.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His, like I said, his war, he's going to have to more than double it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And his ERA is is right right in the, the wave length of where those guys are, but as you stated, you know, people, I think we care a little bit less

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[SPEAKER_00]: More than likely he's kind of in that hall of very good range, but if this giant's team starts to win ball games and compete with the upper echelon of of baseball, it's some of that is going to be because Logan Webb continues to pitch at the lovelies pitching and maybe even pitch at a better level like that is also what it's going to take so if you are betting on the giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... becoming one of the better teams in baseball you're probably betting on Logan Webb even taking it to a better level but i thought it was just an interesting exercise because i never thought about it until my dad mentioned it in the chat the other day but it's cut now now i'm gonna kind of be watching for it right you're gonna be kind of looking looking at it in in that way

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I didn't mention the war, but looking at the war, I mean, 5.6 war in 2023, 216 in ends, he had an ERA plus of 128.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think 510, 15, you're looking at three more years of a five-war get to the 36 mark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of an entryway to get in, but yeah, and he's only under contract with the giants for the next three seasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what scares me, Nima.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now the ballpark, I don't think as a synchro baller for Logan Webb, I don't think the ballpark plays a lot into that and that's strange to say for a pitcher at Oracle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think his stuff plays everywhere and we've seen it on the road he can dominate also.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't give up many home runs and even on the road he doesn't give up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't think the ballpark's a big factor, so even after three years if he goes somewhere else, I don't think that's gonna hurt him because of the way he pitches.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, if he starts losing velocity and the sinker ball doesn't bite,

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[SPEAKER_01]: now you're in trouble, because he's got a great change up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His two seamer rides a little bit, but he lives off of that sinker and that thing is so nasty with that velocity and that bite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe in San Francisco, the climate helps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You get kind of a heavier, more humid baseball than you do in Colorado, so obviously it's going to play a lot better in San Francisco that way, not the dimensions in the ballpark, but just the more the climate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tell your dad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for bringing that up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that is definitely something you know it's out of mind we haven't been thinking what we've been thinking about can we get past five that's what we've been thinking about you know kind of what you said about the later years in his career he does you do have

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[SPEAKER_00]: an example in in a Greg Maddox right the kind of pitch similarly now Logan will obviously wasn't as dominant as Greg Maddox wasn't as prime but Maddox did he you know he wasn't an ace anymore he turned into like a three or four or five as his later years continued pitching for like the podries and such but he was able to compete because he just didn't rely on having a 97 mile an hour fastball it was more than that and that's kind of what Logan Webb is to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about this WBC because Logan Webb was a big part of the Team USA getting to the semi-final round in the knockout.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But unfortunately for that team, there was a lot of nervous energy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a lot of frustration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I think I'm on the side of being a little bit harder on Mark Drossan and other folks, other folks are kind of like, yeah, who cares?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he even even if he did screw up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So so what we're in the semi finals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the tiebreaker scenario and I don't even think when we last recorded, I don't even think we realized exactly what the tiebreaker was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we were kind of like dirty in, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we kind of assumed and they were not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Italy, you know, beating them was was a very big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, oh man, we need to win this game against Canada.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to not give up a lot of runs here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we also need Italy to beat the bumps off of Mexico, which they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we got into the semi-final round there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what is your take on this Dorosa thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, my JJ was asking my son yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was like, you know, why does it matter?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, well, if he would have owned it,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have been like, cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, you just kind of overlooked what the scenario was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he did not own it and I'm convinced that he screwed with the line up because he thought that they were going to cruise because if what that line up was against Italy, it was his second string line up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wanted to get guys A, B's to get them ready just in case that that he needed them to hit or whatever as you got to the to the later rounds and if Dorosa would have just been like, hey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I overlooked this scenario, my bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'll never happen again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Out of like, yeah, like, that's kind of human because Brad and I were, like, we misread that thing too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Except we're not the manager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was gonna say it's not our job to know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but what was your take on this deroset thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like you, it was harsh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My thought on this whole thing is harsh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael Hill, the GM of USA baseball,

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[SPEAKER_01]: should have maybe had a conversation also before hand and say, hey, let's go over the clinchine scenarios.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not, you know, unless Michael Hill had told him, hey, we're in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: do whatever the hell you want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or maybe he just puts the team together with the rosin and backs off and says it's all you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, somebody had to know, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have a whole coaching staff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Andy Pettett.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got uh, uh, rosses there, David Ross.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got all these guys who played in the bigs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: their job is to know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kept thinking of my head the only way for him to save face at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know about saving his job because we're talking about three years from now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking twenty twenty nine when this happens again, probably time to move on to somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the thought was brought up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why wasn't Bochi there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why wasn't, you know, why would?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Bochi was under contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bochi was managing the Texas Rangers when

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when the manager was chosen for the USA of baseball team, but neither here nor there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kept thinking the only way to save his job is to win the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even that, even that might just kind of be like, okay, we can get almost anybody to manage these all stars

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[SPEAKER_01]: And anybody else that we get may not do that may not come into a game that you're not sure if you clinched or not and just throw the B team line up out there and have, you know, Clayton Kershaw put his walker down and go out and start warming up in the bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think you can stick any other manager in there and they're probably not going to screw that part up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, not even just saved by the Italian team winning, he was saved by the Italian team scoring seven runs because at that point even if Mexico comes back and wins, uh, by point differential or run differential, um, then it's, uh, you know, the USA is still going to get in, um, but, but yeah, I was, I'm pretty harsh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm still pretty harsh on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought it was kind of a bone head move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't if you are the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the name is in it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're the manager.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You manage the team, talk to bottom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to know the situations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to not just cruise through and then celebrate after the win against Mexico and say, hey, look at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're in the guys party at a little hard last night so we're a little bit slower today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're in a tournament and spring training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This isn't October, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's such a veteran.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's so broy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He drives me nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a part that frustrates me too, because it's like, yeah, let them have fun, let them have a good time, but you're still technically in spring training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're getting ready for a 162 game hall for these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's treat it that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's where I'm most frustrated by the situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have fun during the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then,

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[SPEAKER_01]: be a manager know the situation know how to get these guys ready for the next day because they got to play the next day and I was pretty much it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And and then to lose to Italy and I mean, you know, they lost eight to six, but really they got relaxed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, before before he decided we got to get these guys in here and we got to score some runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at that point it's like dude, you had the day before to figure that one out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: right exactly and again if he just had taken some responsibility out of it like okay I get it let's move on but he's just hanging on to this idea that they knew what the tiebreaker was and he didn't miss like he just misspoke and I was like dude you're on the record on MLB and MLB pulled the video down of you saying that we were already through to the next round.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah I just wanted to tell you're not a politician

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're allowed to own up to your stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can say, hey, I screwed that one up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what we're going to do from this point on is we're going out to win this whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to make up for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to make up for, I don't want to let these guys down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My job is to carry them to the promised land.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that managed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Make me the manager of the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you could do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing is that you wouldn't just want to be homies with these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you're managing them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, no, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get out there and work, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Work hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is spring training.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get your bodies ready for a 162-game haul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go out there and win this whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go back with the pride, shove it in everybody else's faces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That you won the WBC and take that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Take that to your team as motivation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, no Japan, Japan is out of it, Venezuela to care Japan, you have this opportunity to get revenge against Italy, Italy and Venezuela are playing right now as we are talking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no scores as far as I saw, but we'll, you know, so we won't have any information about that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they did go out there and beat the Dominican Republic who looked like world beaters in the early round of this tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They, on the backs of Paul Skeens, and Bednar, and Whitlock, and I don't know who pitched after Skeens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, and then obviously Mason Miller who made it a little interesting there at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they did get a home, I don't know, I did a home talent call and I don't know if it's a home talent call, but they did get a call with at the end of there with a ball that was at least an inch or two below the strike zone and probably a good take that got called for third strike so they a little bit of luck there and they play the winner of Endens Willah and Italy I want to see Italy because I would I would love to see them get revenge on on that and hopefully they could

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... figure out how to you know win a game uh... that they should have won and you know it'll be played really well also that i don't want to take away anything for the job they jumped out there on the lead but they're playing good but they're playing good bond francisco survey is building that resume man if when next season the managerial you know carousel comes around that's going to be a hot name for sure

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[SPEAKER_00]: talent for talent and it's not even close, which is the thing, which is what makes the Italy story so cool and so interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what did you think about the game against the Dominican Republic?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't get to watch any of it though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen some clips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We were, I did listen to about the last three and a half innings of it on the drive home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I heard

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[SPEAKER_00]: the pitching dominated on both sides just nothing but strikeouts after strikeout after strikeout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was a great game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was it was a throwback, you know, early 2010s baseball game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean fighting, getting runners in scoring position, trying to figure out what to do in that situation, do we hit and run, do we steal?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was grinded out because I thought, oh, man,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we get into a home run slug fest with the Dominican Republic, it's going to be tough to win that game, but that's not the situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: DR had had runners in scoring position and I think it was second and third with with nobody out or one out and like the sixth inning and couldn't get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Couldn't get the run across the plate and at that point you start thinking, okay, you got nine

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I, USA really has a chance here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They should probably try to attack on one more run, could not do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but, but having the game and the way it did, um, with, uh, with the, the questionable called third strike again, you know, hey, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen that for how many years now, and just happens to be in that situation, it's March, it's the WBC, you know, these things happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, I'd love to see ABS because it was in a US stadium, both to some of finals and the final, or in a US stadium, or in US stadium, so I'd love to have seen ABS come to that round.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, I loved it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a fantastic game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I was expecting a slugfest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was actually happy, very happy, not to see a slugfest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they played again tonight, USA could lose nine to one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they could also win three to one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, you know, they're too very, the other thing to is the pictures and the hitters, they all know each other pretty well, because they faced each other in the major leagues for years and years in here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was something like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: 50 all-star appearances between the two teams put together and something like seven MVP awards between the two teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, just an insane amount of talent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was two all-star teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, I would love to see an all-star game like that in July.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be great to see, and that's pretty much what it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to have an all-star crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: into a game like that in July and exhibition game, but this which means something to go to a championship game in a tournament.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just awesome to see so good for baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what we're going to do is because we normally record on Mondays Monday nights for Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, I think we're going to come back and do a very short recap show on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be up on YouTube and on the audio feed probably Wednesday evening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it won't be like our immediate take of of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: the final of the championship game, but we'll have something up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's important because Brad is going to be off next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be on vacation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have some plans, possibly bring in back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Giants versus Dodgers for this week were driving in myself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll preview each other's teams, Giants and the Dodgers, and kind of just take a look at his thoughts on the WBC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're still working on getting that done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm hopeful we can do that just so we have some Giants content in the lead-up to the season opener.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Brad and I will be back after that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we'll figure out, you know, I think one of the interesting things is our schedules or can can be kind on certain days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if we have to bust out like a 15 minute quick quick show that might not be too hard, it might be kind of cool to see if we could do that for opening day as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So well, we'll play around with stuff like that, but at least,

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[SPEAKER_00]: this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to shoot for a short show recapping team USA and whomever they play, which everyone will know who that is by the time this thing goes up, but we do not know right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, last couple things here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even tell Brad about this one, but I actually didn't tell Brad about these last two things, but they're very small, and so we'll be quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember Dave Newhouse at all?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I do, did he do, what's he on can be are?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so, can, yes, he was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, he was the Oakland Tribune writer, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he hosted, as far as I know, I like, I don't know if he was the very first guy to host what was at the time, sports phone 68.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he was kind of like the predecessor to Ralph Barbieri taking sports phones 68 and then several years later, then came to our becomes an all sports network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Dave Newhouse passed away last week and he's so memorable to me and I even hit up

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[SPEAKER_00]: our buddy Darren Chan who is the the giants radio producer and I was just asking him about about new house if you had any memories and you know because Darren's I think Darren might be a couple years older than me and he but he's also he's a big came be our guy going all the way back and so we we were just chit chatting about Dave but my first memory I don't I can't I can't tell you

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[SPEAKER_00]: but I think it's after a giant's game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you go through the post game, Hank Greenwald and everyone doing their post game, wrap it up the giant's game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then for like half an hour, Dave Newhouse comes on and he's taken calls and think about, you know, if this is the mid 80s,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody's got a cell phone, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you kind of have to, you're either stopping off on a pay phone or you're calling from your house or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're not in the drive time radio stage where, you know, you can't actually call from your cell phone by the time of the late nineties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just like, like, I was like, what is this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, these people who are calling into this guy,

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[SPEAKER_00]: they care so much about this single game kind of like me like you know I've been in my stomach because the giant's probably lost that game and I was like oh man and these people are calling and they have some kind of the same response right like who are these people and so that's literally the moment I fell in love with uh...

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the idea of radio and something that I then wanted to be a part of and kind of the reason the origin story of us doing this podcast because we were both into radio and into play by play and stuff and it kind of starts with me with Dave new house and

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, back in the day, you didn't have a lot of places to go search for information.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Dave Newhouse, all of a sudden gets replaced by Ralph, and I had just, you know, back then you're just like, oh, that's just what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And today, if that happened, I would immediately get on Google and go, why did they make this chain?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I was like, I had no idea.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave Newhouse was not there anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Ralph Barbie area was there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: just dealt with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was just the way that it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I always had wonder, like, what happened to Dave Newhouse?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I then learned that he was also a writer for the Tribune.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have a friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: who I do a show with Dave Meltzer, the editor, the Rusting Observer newsletter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Dave Meltzer worked at the Tribune as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he said that Dave Newhouse kind of took him under his wing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it sounds like reading all of the write-ups by people who had worked with him at some point, seems like he just did that with everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's always looking out for people who are new to the area or who are young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave really liked him as a reporter, but said, you know, you kind of got to stop doing the wrestling thing and just folks on sports.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my friend didn't do that and to the better of his judgment because he's like the guy in that field and he's created an entire career and there's like a there's actually like a wrestling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: journalism ecosystem built off of his back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like just Dave knew how to just like looking out for him saying, you're really good at what you do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You may have to go this way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that every story that I've read about Dave was somebody saying, like, yeah, when I was a young reporter, he was always looking out for me telling me where the best places to go and how to kind of do this and that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that, but that's just some memorable name in my childhood.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave knew how to be passed away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was in his mid to late

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think I do remember because as a kid, you know, like you said, 1985, 86, 87, listening to giant schemes on the radio and then the talk that would come on afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I paid too much attention to who the host was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I was so locked in and like you said too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are these people saying?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are these questions?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the same like feelings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have the same questions I have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's cool that they're getting answered and they're just talking back and forth back and forth back and forth as conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, when I became, you know, when when to KSJS and the sports director position open, I thought, yeah, I want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, you know, I want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to host sports weekly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to talk to people about sports being at KS Jazz at San Jose State.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We didn't have a ton of callers, but we had round tables.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had me and you and Nick Martinez and Robert Burke and we'd come in and sit down and everybody had a microphone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'd all just sit around and just talk sports.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's kind of where it came from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think I do remember Dave Newhouse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know that that time in that era of early sports talk on can be are and yeah legend I mean legend in the Bay Area

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, back then I just was like, why is this only 40 minutes like why don't they go to like midnight and they would eventually go to midnight, but back then like I didn't really understand like how the advertising paid the bill, so it's not so right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want more of this like give me more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you're talking about sports weekly like that was also a little bit of a vehicle to go like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: even though it's not, you know, on a crazy radio station, like you're still going live on air, you can still go, hey, if you're in this area, dial this radio station, you can actually hear us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was cool too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I'll just a piece of the story, I guess you could say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, last thing, the Netflix game, did you know Netflix plans to fill McCubbie Cove,

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[SPEAKER_00]: with 73 red branded kayaks for fans to paddle through the waters and perhaps chase down a home run ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're in that era.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we're in the full of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, promotions have been going on for, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: decades going back to when we were kids.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I sent you a picture of the giant pitching poster that I have for the with the 1983 calendar on it for the giant schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's in the little bottom left corner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got some branded sand sangria bottled sangria from Spain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this is like another level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're talking

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[SPEAKER_00]: out in Macau V. Cove and you and Giants fans know what the 73 represents.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very bonds is 73 home runs that that's a maybe a little bit of a clue that bonds is going to be a participant will see they it sounds like they really want him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He may be playing hard to get

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[SPEAKER_00]: He who knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a little surprised me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think it would be keeping it a surprise, uh, even, um, I think Dwayne Cipard did some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it last year that you're before with bonds where they just went, he just interviewed Barry about a lot of his home runs and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even then, like, watching Barry and, you know, Barry is still in his 60s, not afraid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to pat himself on the back and so you're gonna give me some of that on Netflix and hey I'm for it you know he he there's no nothing wrong with celebrating yourself a lot of people make it offended but I watched it and he deserves it so yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: But anyways, like yeah, the Netflix presentation is going to be it's going to be exciting and it's the first time that they're going to delve into their relation with major league baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's also going to be the home run derby and the field of dreams game or, you know, whatever that game is called so that so, but this is the first one and you have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to pretty big franchises.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm happy that it's at our park because people will get to see how glorious that thing looks in the evening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so I'm excited about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was a funny thing because it was like, how can Netflix show the world that this is a Netflix production?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, 73 kayaks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And probably the cast of Stranger Things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, that shows over, so I don't think they can really promote it as much anymore, but you know he's going to be in the booth, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The broadcasters?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, tell me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The broadcasters for that night, Matty V, Matt Vaskers, and I like Vaskers, and it's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's kind of a mix on him, but I really enjoy him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: love this guy, we all love this guy, but in the booth, I don't so much, and it's going to be hunter-pants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's what I figured you were going to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's a little rough around the edges when it comes to booth, but you know, he is enjoyable, he's got some stories and it's always pretty funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then on the field,

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[SPEAKER_01]: got MLB networks Lauren Shahati and then this guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just I can't watch this comedy not a fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It drives me nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bird Chrysher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I hope he keeps his shirt on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, keep your shirt on, dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Harry bowling ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the thing is he's got a show on Netflix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got his comedy specials on Netflix So that's where you're gonna get all that from you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're gonna get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a branded It's gonna be a branded baseball game You can go and that's the same thing when you're watching the world series and then they go Oh, look so-and-so is in the stands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah, that guy's got a show on Fox or that lady's got a show on Fox So that's why they're in the stand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like I mentioned, we will try and be back one time this week for a short show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we're going to go live on YouTube, but it'll just be audio on the podcast network and we'll put the video up as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just won't be live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Brad will go on vacation and he'll come back to the podcast nice and relaxed and I'm gonna Disney land.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't get a lot of sleep when we go on this trip But I do fly back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We do fly back on a Saturday morning So I'll go have Saturday and Sunday and Saturday night when I get back so I'll be in Disney land Wednesday So I'll have Netflix on my phone while we're

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[SPEAKER_01]: going around and getting the yellow cups.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And those of you who are familiar with Disneyland, know what the yellow cups are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to be hitting quite a few yellow cups, especially on opening night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Saturday night, we fly back Saturday morning, Saturday night, giants and Yankees are the Fox game of the week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be on Fox.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a couple of early

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[SPEAKER_01]: Friday Saturday, we have Sunday off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when we come back Monday, we will have that full three game series under our belts that we can talk about on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that I was hoping to get it done today, but a bunch of other things came up, but that I want to do our five questions for the season are, you know, are over our five overunders for the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can guarantee, because we do this every year, there is going to be one stolen base over under.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's either going to be a player team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I keep willing it into existence.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're going to steal a crazy amount of bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, I don't know who knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Grant McCray makes it out of camp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oliva.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oliva could be in there at some point in season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here for Brad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am WG, we will see when we see you piece out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.