Kittle & Bosa Head to Australia, 49ers Set 53-Man Roster | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to we want winners we put a blog post up on the site that basically said Niners are back we're gonna be back weekly we have three shows in the next

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eight days we're recording tonight, which is Wednesday evening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to record Sunday night as well We'll do our preview of the season on Sunday and then on Thursday night after the opener Niners Rams will come on after that game is over and we'll do recap of that game So we are Season is back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does it feel like football's happening in like just over a week

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, and, you know, we're having another first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, the Niners in Australia is a first, but, you know, opening on Wednesday night is going to be strange.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, who is it the patts and the Seahawks?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Nice and nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's uh, the NFL man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They they figure out how to map that schedule out so that They got September through January Locked like they're just talk of the town

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[SPEAKER_01]: and now it's only Tuesday is the only day of the week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't have football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe a Monday night game will get snowed out and they'll have to reschedule for Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you have never tuned in to see Rod and myself talk 49ers, it is football season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, hopefully February, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If this team actually does some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess let's kick it off with the latest news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe the Niners are in the air right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are headed to Australia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the big story as far as the roster is concerned,

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[SPEAKER_00]: is that George Kittle and Nick Bosa made the trip and a saw Nick Bosa had a comment and he said if I'm going out there I'm effing playing now I don't think it's fully his decision but that's his mentality and I know he finally practiced that that had been a thing because he hadn't practiced for like a month

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Rod, what do you think come Thursday night?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our George Kittle and Nick Bosa going to be suited up ready to stare down the LA Rams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would think that since George had, I mean, since Nick hasn't been out there, I would not surprise me that they make a final decision after he's been through

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[SPEAKER_01]: a couple of practices.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think if there was no chance that we're going to play, I don't think they wouldn't even make the trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it seems to me, my rationale is that they're both close enough that barring any setbacks they will play now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: then you get into the semantics of how many snaps will they play?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't expect either of them to get the volume of play that they normally get, but um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if they're right, both of them are, you know, 75% of them think we talked about this before 75% of Nick Bosa is pretty all right in the same with kiddo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, you know, obviously we hope they play a but yeah, I think signs of pointing up with them actually just being there, um, that's a good sign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're Nick and, you know, you're still in the prime of your career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you see Aaron Donald on the other side, stepping away from the game, and all of a sudden practicing and ready to go, you got to be like, I got to be in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he can't, he can't come out of retirement and show up and play and me not play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I mean, just the idea of Donaldson and Miles Garrett, like 49ers off in supply.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They got some game planning to do their man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be tough one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not like I was talking to somebody today about the fact that Aaron Donald was actually a luxury for them, their defense is pretty damn good without him, especially at that defensive tackle position and then you add Miles Garrett and there have been several features since Aaron Donald the one I think about most is when him and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jared verse worked out last season or before last season and they were playing that and he's a monster in the weight room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I understand that that doesn't necessarily translate at this age to him being productive, but I also made the comparison to Trent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At 38 years old, he's still like one of the best

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[SPEAKER_01]: in football better than 38-year-old Trent Williams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and if it's just in the women's steps like Bond Miller has played the last few years, I have no doubt that Donald can make a difference in, you know, let's just call it 15 snaps or 20 snaps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that he could be at a very high level in a very short window of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and it will keep him fresh if he's if he's not out there the whole game so he can kind of empty the tank on a few plays and for the fourth quarter when everyone else is tired he could he could pick up some snaps there you know what it reminded me of and this is really happening football anymore but it happened a lot when you and I were younger where the 49ers

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then all of a sudden it's like, oh, the four yanders just for whatever reason, we're able to pick up Ricky Jackson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Ricky Jackson starts on like every, you know, every other team and he's just like what you said about Donald, that's who Ricky Jackson was for the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kevin Green, or there were a couple of seasons where Charles Haley was just like past Russia, disjure for whomever, you know, wanted to grab and even came and played with the Niners at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then for that 81 Super Bowl, it was a Fred Dean, like the Niners just picked up Fred Dean, you know, for a season or two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was, he was the guy and he was the man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's what it reminds me of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: just the luxury to bring in, you know, two or three years ago, the best defensive player in the league and I just add them to a team that you have built that is like just, you know, Seattle wins a Super Bowl last year very convincingly and all anybody is talking about it and have seen what's just the ramps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and they picked up, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Diggs and Arnold, who are, you know, I don't know where Diggs is, you know, talent-wise at this point, but Tyrion Arnold was a proble last year, so I mean, the fact that they were able to go out and add those two guys to an already stacked defense is on bananas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what I'm even thinking about until now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the opening night is the Netflix game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Netflix didn't opening night for the baseball season two, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess technically for the NFL, it's night two of opening week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the giants in the Yankees opened up Netflix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They opened the season a day early before everyone else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was such a long time ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like I killed in that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that doesn't that I hope that doesn't happen to the Niners here, but that's that's a

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[SPEAKER_00]: So as we we're going to change around topics just slightly here because I think it fits better the travel strategy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: of the Niners leaving and getting I think they're going to get there a full week early and the rams are not going to travel until next week so they're going to be able to do their practices at their practice facility and then they're going to jump on a plane and they're going to land and they're going to have to play football game the next day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to have the ramp said why this was their strategy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like the Niners, I mean, it sounds like

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Niners are going to be by far the favorite of the the Melbourne fam fans and all the other folks coming from where they're coming from it sounds like the Niners are kind of like one of the most favorite teams in Australia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe it was part of that was for them to get there a little bit earlier than the Rams because of that, but there's such a discrepancy in the time that the both teams are going to be there and I can't like I kind of feel like

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[SPEAKER_00]: It better's the Niners, but at the same time, you know, for the Rams to not have to worry about doing the traveling and the outreach and the fan stuff and just going to play a game and then coming home, I wonder if there's a mental thing there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what do you think about that whole scenario?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, according to my research,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's make a decision to what was intracule in the decision and he cited after winning the Super Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, with the Broncos, the team played five preseason games, including one in Japan, and they fell off, they, they felt off for weeks afterwards, saying, so the priority isn't just the performance in Australia, this is a quote, isn't just the performance in Australia, but how you can set up, set yourself up best when you come back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and he said that he didn't, they didn't consider what it was that the ranch was doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Conversely, the ranch ran some kind of an experiment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They sent staffers, um, a hit and monitored their symptoms of jet lag and calibrated, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, determined that it was best for them to just get there soon, you know, get there earlier and that

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's, so there's two different philosophies going on here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be interesting to see not only, again, to Lynch's point, not only what happens on Thursday night, but then what happens in the weeks after that is there any letdown or, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: are the liners able to hit the round running in a way that the rounds art.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think just based on my research that the way that they're doing it in terms of going there and getting acclimated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because their staff were said that they didn't feel good for like two or three days after getting there to, you know, for getting acclimated, but I guess you could make the point that the Rams are mitigating that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if they just get there and play, there isn't theoretically there wouldn't be a jet lag situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's truly one of the backstories of this and to see who ends up being right, not only week one, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it could easily get away from you and you know, I always think it doesn't really work anymore, but I've always thought about the season in quarters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the first four games, it'll be interesting to see using that methodology who has the better record in those first four games and how much it is, how much of it is attributable to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the travel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because you know, damn sure whoever doesn't play well, that's going to be the reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They say that's what they're going to blame.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I feel like the Niners have been up and down about this in the past because when they make those long East Coast trips, sometimes,

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[SPEAKER_00]: they will stay in certain areas and try and create like a small home, you know, and and mitigate it that way so that they don't have to keep flying back and forth across country if they know they're going to have a road trip for first, you know, per se.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then they've also said, you know, well, sometimes the fields aren't great, we don't have our facility and all of those things, so I think they've been back and forth on on the different mentalities, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if the NFL gets what they want, which is all of these international games, more teams are going to have to do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, the Jaguars, I feel like the Jaguars are in London, like five or six games a year these days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, you know, that'll be, you know, we'll get a think piece, a sports medicine research piece in a couple of years with the the correct way to do this and teams will probably follow it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you 100% right,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have stated that the goal is to get to as many as 18 games in the season overseas, and you're not wrong with Jaguar, they have taken to going and playing two games in a row there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, you know, if you want to talk about how you get to 18 is that you pick cities and then you have two games in Munich or in

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Madrid or, um, South Palo, you know, there are a lot of places with those who just say Mexico City, um, with those who just stocked soccer stadiums that can accommodate and make, um, a boatload of money because I know for my experience in Mexico City, those tickets are expensive and that that was the cool part about, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that is, it wasn't just, you know, in Mexico City, I could speak on that it was, I was, at one point, I was counting jerseys day at a game and everybody was represented, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Every team had fans there so it's not like it was just Cardinal fans of 49er fans while 49ers are really popular in Mexico City as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would still say just from my independent poll, the Raiders are still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, more popular down there than anybody, um, but um, you know, the proximity kind of to LA or whatever, you know, though, you know, they were good once in, in the black, the silver black is, I mean, I hate to write that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, it's, it's, it's those are pretty dope jerks and out the outlaws of all out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but yeah, the 49ers, it was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was crazy as you moved around town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was there for a week before the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was so cool at my hotel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'd, like, 49er fans would be in a lobby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we would, you know, talk to you about two and about a part of fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you just see jerseys and hats all around the city.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, you know, it's so funny that

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[SPEAKER_01]: The interaction that I have online with Niagara fans are way different than the ones I've had when I was Mexico City or in Phoenix or in Seattle or LA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Niagara fans are so cool and we

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[SPEAKER_01]: We take over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you just see, it sees a red wherever you go around town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You go to dinner at a restaurant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a bunch of 49ers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's over there and it's like bang bang.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it's just, it's so cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would imagine, like you said, the numbers bear out that they are super popular over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we travel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would have been an awesome experience, which I wasn't able to make because kidney.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in, and it's, you know, and that's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would much rather have a new kidney than have gone to Australia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Another reason for the Raiders to be possibly the favorite, Jim Plunkett.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mexican.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tom Flores.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tom Flores, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the uh... if you're an australian rules football player you're like come on man we have the sport named after and you're trying to infiltrate what's going on here yeah and it's gonna be what's up with this forward passing

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I have a feeling that this is going to be huge there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, yeah, it's, um, it's going to be a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, you know, I know it's an inconvenience, and but I think it's cool that, um, they, you know, they got picked to be, um, a part of this showcase.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, rumor has it that the Rams picked up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's the Rams and it's a set of home game and they had a choice and they chose an I know They don't want they don't want to there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're taking over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly Yeah, so it's I mean, you know, it opening week

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[SPEAKER_00]: and every sport does this now where you have to make it special like it's an event because I mean I remember it's I it feels like it's not that long go or you just like up

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[SPEAKER_00]: Waking up, neither from the road 10 a.m., it's a breakfast watch in the first game of the season and that's how you kick it off and now it's like Thursday night on Netflix, you know, it's so it's pretty crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, the Jaguars, I talked to the owner son, so Shad Khan, his son Tony, he has an executive position on the team, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I he he does the wrestling thing and I covered their show so I got to talk to him a little bit and I asked him I said Travis Hunter playing both ways and he's like yep It's probably not as many snaps on offense so they they rest him a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, but so We'll see I mean that they should have a pretty good team to Jacksonville should be pretty good this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just from afar, because Brian Thomas Jr. is, you know, fantasy, but then also he's an LSU player, which is kind of my college team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And but I did not take the time this off season to dig into what the hell happening him because he just like fell off a cliff last season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So to be interesting to see if he's able to bounce back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's walk through the last preseason game that we'll talk a little bit about this software.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm an admit to you right now on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could barely get past half time watching that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had it on the DVR.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay, I'm going to get back to get back to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Part of the reason I will admit as much as I do not like the cheerleader Tim Ryan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my gosh, I had to listen to the Raiders local broadcast because that's what got that was it was bad awful awful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I mean, I couldn't listen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had to turn it down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanna say I watched the first quarter live and then I put it on that and then I watched the condensed version on NFL Plus where you can watch the whole game like 30 minutes, it's just, it's really actually just cut ups.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you still hear their voices on the plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't get all the color but still and it was just bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll we'll do our preview this weekend and we'll we'll talk about you know what we think about

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know who may who they may need, but they didn't really play anybody in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did like the couple of Jordan James carries that I did see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know the Nyers got got some sacks as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Key on white got one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was, he's, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just figured he'd be like way more polished.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh-huh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's, he's, he's not going up against first teamers for the Niners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going up against second and third teamers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mostly third teamers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And still like he was, he was not feeling the pass rush.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't seen where the pass rush was coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he was getting pulled down on sacks and I was like, man, this is not a if I was a Raiders fence, I talked to a Raiders fan a couple weeks ago and I asked him like, what do you think about Mendoza and he's like he's not going to play and we just got to hope that, you know, he learns and he's ready.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kirk Cousins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's to say, Kurt Cousins is going to stay healthy behind that off at the line, man doesn't maybe rush into it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At least when those who can move a little bit, Kurt is, it's, it's bad, and it's, it stinks, you know, I have a love hate relationship with the Raiders, my, young from East Oakland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So my entire family is Raider fans, but they do laugh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just as I was becoming a 49er fan, I mean, becoming a football fan, so there's no way like 80, like 82, 82, 82, 83, you know, it was, I wasn't trying to be, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: were good when I was 12 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it was so my family loves the Raiders and I know a lot about the Raiders because my family, a Raider fans, and the league is better when the Raiders are competitive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like the Giants and the Cowboys and the Niners when you have those marquee franchises are relevant, it's just better

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[SPEAKER_01]: for the league over all and they haven't been they haven't been good for like 25 years which is just it's crazy that they they've just really stunt for all that time but yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought the thing that you mentioned about Mendoza was the thing that I thought was going to at least he would be his mature and he'd be polished and he would know where to go with the football, but he just did not, he seems like a rookie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, very much so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was actually surprised because, you know, first pick in the draft and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tom Brady's choice and this and that and I was like man, you know, because that was the opposite of Brady, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even when Brady was a rookie, he made mistakes, but he did not look like the game was way too fast for him, and you know what's funny is that the announcers and I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of this, I think some of the frustration for me was, of course, you get your local announcers and they're, you know, they're pro their own team, but it's like they were making excuses for him because he threw the pick and they were like, yeah, you know, and a fellow game is a little, you know, speed into more speedy than than the big 10 and I'm like, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's playing against third stringers like, you know, and so third stringers That you know that it's probably a little bit closer to the college level speed though in a pro system I get that part the athletes the best athletes and all of these colleges.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get that part, but I just expected him

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two like show more poise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was one game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I literally saw you know 20 snaps or whatever from him So I don't want to this small sample size.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to be fair about that But I was just like, oh, because I was like I want to see this guy I'm you know, he looks it was just like huh Kind of reminded me a little bit of the the Niners fourth string quarterback who just got cut That's what he looked like to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They they played very similarly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Niners go out with the six Eddie Pignero field goals, including a 15-9 yard yard yard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the man's, I hope they iced his leg after that game, who's all the offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the roster comes out on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've made some adjustments, guys have had to go on IR and such, but was there anything that stood out to you that was surprising in any way?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, going back to the game, you know, Dougher had another really good game, and he was rewarded by, you know, he's...

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Deptard, I saw I had him basically the second string.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had guys like Martin and Tatum Bethoon as we sit right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you mentioned Jordan James looking, he looked good in an, of course, Fianero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: price out got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was, um, you know, and then in the fact that we couldn't score, we shut them out, which was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and I guess the other thing that was kind of disappointed in with, um, Cowling's injury kind of clear in the way Jordan Math Jordan Watson on a while when we were calling Matthews.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Jordan Watson, why can't you lock it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why can't, um, really didn't step up and it was, you know, he was, it was just mediocre.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't, yeah, he didn't, God was hoping that he would really,

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[SPEAKER_00]: take that opportunity and that's play was probably he he ran a route like a reverse or something he actually did have some he looked pretty good night the quarterback made a business decision on the block because I think there was a

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[SPEAKER_00]: is a defensive end or a tackle who's kind of chasing and so it was Martinez, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he looks like he's going to have to block him and then he realizes that he probably doesn't have to block him because Watkins is far enough ahead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he like stalls and then he just kind of takes two steps out of the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like that was a smart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was very smart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need to show your your toughness here on on that game, but he he probably knew he

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was going to get cut anyways, and he's got to save his legs for trials, for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, uh, I guess the one that caught everyone's attention was the, uh, when they cut, uh, Robert Jones, but then, uh, who did they, they traded for somebody, uh, immediately, was it, who's got it traded for?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, was it Patterson?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that the guy they got from Houston?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's Jared Patterson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that made some sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jones was hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, now that it looks like they're going to start the rookie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: at guard there at left guard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Carver Willis, which is kind of interesting because we're Colby's there, but they may actually both play some, but yeah, I mean yeah, that's the one thing is, and I said it in the last show, because you asked me if Brock was going to have like a break out year and I said, I think Brock is going to have

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[SPEAKER_00]: a really strong season but the thing that I cannot predict is how upright he's going to be because this offensive line outside of you know outside of Trent just kind of seems so in flux and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I'm not confident in their ability to to patch work this thing together because that's what they've tried to do for like the last three years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it's been solid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The run game of course has been fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last year was really the one time that they didn't get their yards per carry where they wanted, but I'm just not confident because Brock is such a small dude and he's a tough dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's a little dude, man, I worry a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know he's got the escape ability and he uses legs, but that would be my concern, is it's just this offensive line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's the thing about that escape ability, is that if you rely on that too much, you're basically,

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[SPEAKER_01]: narrowing the field to one side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're unless you're Joe Montana and you can throw all the way back across your body.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But as we saw, as that's not a sound plan to have your franchise quarterback over and over to work and throwing across his body because the body's just not made to

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[SPEAKER_01]: to do that, and we saw what happened to Joe with his back issues for, you know, for literally the rest of his career after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the downside, yes, he has the scalability, but you don't really want to be relying on the rollout as a protection strategy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's a lot to ask, because I don't really have a great

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[SPEAKER_01]: opinion of Brando to begin with, but they love him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that combination of him and Colby is problematic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think that you say you're probably right, they're going to end up seeing both of them and hell, you might even end up seeing Patterson as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they, it looks like it's going to be guard by committee, um, so that's, that's never, um, never make you feel great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see how it works out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, this is like the worst case scenario, because that deacions relying to Rams are going to try it out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are literally four guys that you, that are

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[SPEAKER_01]: double team worthy, but you can't double them all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's gonna be interesting to see how they organized their past protect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: McAfrey and Debo might have to take some shorter passes and break them, like they have been able to do historically to give the Niners a little bit of room

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[SPEAKER_00]: you have speed, but I'm not sure you're going to have the time in the pocket to really throw down field of tons so we're also going to bring the defense a step in and just dare you to go over the top and that that'll be that's a good cat and mouse between Kyle and McPhay how they play that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now go ahead and

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[SPEAKER_01]: what you could end up finding yourself as a place that I really don't like is when we're making George of fucking excuse my language.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A third tackle, you know, standing in the block, I just think that is, you know, he's great at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get me wrong, but it's a waste of a weapon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give you, you know, if he is blocking, we had several seasons where that was the case where he was

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[SPEAKER_01]: and on past protecting more than it felt like he was in on past protection more than he was out running around and that's a win for your defense is you don't have to deal with him

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[SPEAKER_01]: out and wrapped in a whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See Pharaoh is a decent blocker and they play more multiple tight ends.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, you know, this, well, I know he's question of what, you know, keep it for kind of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: lead you to that way, but I mean, it could be fools go because you could really count feral as a best for teamer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then if you count him that way, then it's just time just and Brandon Willis, who is a hell of an athlete, it would be nice if he could

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I don't know that fix is the problem because he's not really a blocker So it's not like putting him in with George is gonna free George up to Run route and whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Todd just is a good player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so maybe they do and that would be You know, maybe they're just they do that because you know that kind of seems like the way in the Rams

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[SPEAKER_01]: revolutionized that, you know, so everybody now is trying to carry three tight hands because, you know, the league is a copycat league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, so yeah, it's going to be interesting to see my Thompson Clark partner here Brad says the Rams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a he's a Rams fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rams travel schedule has me a little worried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think the Niners are by far like the most traveled team this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you add up all the miles, I think I think the Niners are like far in a way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you are on a coast, you're just going to do more traveling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have so much more area to go when you have to go to the other side of the U.S.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, any, you know, these, these California teams and these Florida teams,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And over several years, Seattle was that team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was the one who traveled the most miles, like you say it tracks because they're like, not only on the West Coast, but they're like, kind of high up in the West Coast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have a couple of Florida trips or a couple of New York trips for Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The miles rack up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: one of the things that i wanted to talk about uh... before we move on to the last topic which is about our guy uh... waterbed jid is uh... it let's say now we're crossing our fingers here let's say nick bosa

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[SPEAKER_00]: is as healthy as Nick Bosa is going to be he's going to play in every gamer almost every game he's going to be the type of player that that the 49ers rely on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think there's enough pass rushing talent around Nick to where the defense could get to an upper echelon level?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Horton and Hight, you would have to do a lot of heavy lifting and my kill Williams would have to show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: much more improvement over what he was last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I keep saying that, but I understand I watched all of his games at Georgia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's just not what his strength was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His, he was not a past Russia in college.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, and it was no dig at all when I said that he seemed to me, like Cleveland Farrow coming out of college.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cleveland Farrow 2.0,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and he has a motor where in college he would get sacks just on effort, but he's not an edge vendor and it's hard to do that in an NFL too because the other guy's get paid too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just hard to effort your way into sacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it'll be interesting to see

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of blitz backage, Raheem Morris comes with, it'll be interesting to see if he's confident enough in his backbule to expose them like that by sending extra guys and whatnot, but to answer your question, I don't see enough talent there to get them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: out of that, you know, basically second tier, you know, of past, right, of past, like last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we were in the bottom four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to take a lot of happy lifting to get us, you know, even to middle of the road.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we got to talk about Jed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now this whole Jed scandal happened a little while ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it is now old news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, thanks to Deja on Love here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is now old news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know the nighter's off season has has not been fantastic the shanahan situation with the car accident the substation nonsense that people stopped talking about uh... these injuries and getting these guys ready

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the owner of the team gets caught soliciting a prostitution by going on some website and getting caught because an undercover cop found him set him up and you know I get it the guy and his wife are in the midst of a separation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's now back in a young town where he grew up

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just another kind of like weird situation that has just been following the 49ers this summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say this, I'm not a jet fan, never have been a jet fan, especially since the Kaepernick and Harboss stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has learned from a lot of his mistakes as a young owner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shanahan and Lynch together was very smart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's well respected in the ownership circles when it comes to all of those guys, but, you know, he doesn't have pockets like those old, old dudes do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he has been able to do some very smart things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No Parag now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Parag was kind of the, the, the, the bad cop to, to the good cop Jed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I just looked at it and I was like, man, this knucklehead can't get out of his own way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you, what were your thoughts about this jet thing when you heard about it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have lots of thoughts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This one is that even if for some reason you think that $160 was a fair price, you pay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 10 times that, so that you don't end up in a sting and a damn trailer part, that is, you know, you have a buffer there to see this, I mean, you, I don't know what his network is, but the team is worth, you know, upwards of 10 billion dollars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to move in that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe he just, I don't know if he didn't had a bread, he just didn't want to spend the bread, but he just had to be smarter than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the thing that I took away from it, is that it, it's so important to season making.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that tracks with what it is, I've seen on the field,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and in the front office, you know, I've been banging on Jeff for the past three years because we are going into over 26 of the York regime and he is not necessarily responsible for the things that are wrong here, but he's damn sure accountable for it because he's not holding the people that he's placed there

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[SPEAKER_01]: accountable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So ultimately, any of us who have managed your own or run a household knows it ultimately, the person at the top is accountable for what happens regardless of

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, whether you did it or not, you have to accept responsibility for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think he ever has, um, that that is the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He seems to, and, and this is when he was much younger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I always think about that Tim Calacame story where the rich owner,

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[SPEAKER_00]: made Tim.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think Jed won a bet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was actually could Jed get the stadium done and he and Tim had a friendly bet and it was for lunch and when Tim had to pay up, he picked the French laundry which is like the most expensive place to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so Tim,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know he he had to eat that and uh you know but that was jeds sort of way going like ha ha ha ha like i'm a rich guy and you're not and thus you know this is how it feels so like that is maybe maybe that maybe to jed that's fun and games and i'm sure too you know to some of the athletes or the players who are also you know doing very well they probably laughed at that because Tim is probably covered them fairly hard over the years but when that is the mentality

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think, it's not a guy I like rooting for, it's not a guy that I like, you know, being in charge of certain things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when he got caught, I was like, I'm not surprised at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I will say, I don't want anybody to have to go through the whole separation piece in all of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's got to be something there for him to, you know, to be in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: scenario, unfortunate, but yeah, just like I said, the decision making, the kind of like, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to be too judgmental because I don't know him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've never met him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've just seen some of the stuff that he's done in the public guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a concededness there with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a very young owner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's kind of stayed out of the public guy for the most part until now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a

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[SPEAKER_00]: very odd sort of turn to end an odd off season for the nine or so hopefully come next week get away from that start playing football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whether the Niners are good enough or not to compete they are playing in a hellish division with the seahawks and the Rams probably being two of the very best teams in the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they got the work cut out for them and

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's an iron sharpens iron thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were able to play at the top of that division last year in a very similar way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they did it with a lot of grit and with a lot of just good coaching, your big time players coming through.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but they did lose a lot of guys and so this year you're just hoping that the health luck turns and that they can kind of have all their best guys you know getting into the postseason and see where they go from there but um i had that's what i can't wait for him sick of all those offseason stuff all those goofy stories you know put put John Lynch and some bubble wrap i don't want to see him getting anything with Kyle and and Jed getting

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I don't think we even mentioned Kyle, you know, in that, is that it was just a weird offseason and Jed doing what he did is, um, you know, kind of just captured off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you had heard, you know, we really don't deal in rumors necessarily, but I've heard

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard things that are less crazy than the fact that they might be, this might be the time they decide to cash out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the writing seems to be on the wall in that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in the chat, we were talking about, yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think when I say, I don't know if he has money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Denise has the money, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much Jed has access to the cash.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you even go back to his whole insider trading nonsense, it's something that you wouldn't think that, you know, if he's trying to get his own, which I get as a young man,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if your franchise is worth, you know, at this point, 10 billion and they're saying that they could probably sell it for upwards of 13 to 15 million.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's, it's, when you look at what the Seattle team got, the 49ers, it's, it is a prestige franchise regardless of, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're, again, we have, they haven't won a championship in 20, you know, 25 years going on 26, but it's not like they've stunk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like the Cowboys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's longer than 25 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, it's what it was 30 or 30 32 years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because 80 32 years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Eddie lost the team in 2000 and we hadn't won since what now they've been to three since then, but they just not been able to cash in, which, you know, is something that I hold him accountable for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you I can't look at those teams and it's not my money to just spend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's been the way you want to, but I can't look back at each of those situations and say that they did everything they could.

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[SPEAKER_01]: To, you know, whoever the owner is for people of my generation, you're going to, Eddie is the bar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: going into debt to make sure that this what talk about it being a different world threatening the fire bill wall multiple times but the do the p was passionate about being the best sports organization in the world and that and he did that and you know anybody else

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[SPEAKER_01]: that invested in it and unfortunately we've become mean I think that era of those kind of owners is done football sports in general is a um is a venture capital situation they are on private equity situation and private equity is about making money it's not about

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[SPEAKER_01]: wanting to spit every dollar you can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's about maximizing your profits.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's a business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's nothing wrong with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But any devaro, again, is the example or somebody who was not trying to maximize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was trying to win championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could say what you want about the POS to stand Crocodile is in his real estate dealings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: it's notable that he owns like eight professional franchises and all of them have one championships.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It matters in that matter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Your owner being willing to put his money and his resources behind winning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, F.D.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Picks, which you know, say what you want about that, but that's a philosophy and I can get behind that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Denver Nuggets fans right now are pretty frustrated because they got who they believe is the best player in all basketball and they cannot put the team around him because of the second apron stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the thing that you mentioned about the owners and

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is now, it is now not just owning the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is using that team to help build your portfolio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You mentioned the real estate thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the 49ers, they have like their own business because of the 49ers and the different things that they invest in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And same with the giants, the San Francisco giants, it's really not about the giants as much as it is around buying up properties around the San Francisco area and then turning those properties into more businesses like that's kind of, you know, what the deal is now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Eddie had those thoughts too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what else he invested his money in outside of the team but back then it was like when the Super Bowl or I'm gonna be a miserable human being for you know eight months and that that was kind of the mentality and it's it's not like that anymore These these franchises are worth so much money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know the lakers just sold for 12.5

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[SPEAKER_00]: and that was from the shady owner who owns the Dodgers having to sell them off because he needed asset, he needed to liquid money because the feds are coming after him and so this is a crazy, it's just a insanely wealthy person's business is these sports teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so we'll be back Sunday night and we'll do our season preview and we'll kind of take a look at what we believe this team will be now what we think today is probably going to be different about when we when we get to December in January, but we'll try our best to put our forecasting hats on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but thanks everyone for checking in with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hopefully everybody is excited for for the season and Brad and I, Brad and in the chat, we're going to go live with Thompson to Clark Thursday because the giants play the pirates early in the morning so we're going to talk about the pirates game and just talk about

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[SPEAKER_00]: the wacky season that the giants have had where they're starting players that I've never heard of and like Turner Hill who's bashing the baseball right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But um okay so that's it for me here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For Rod, I am WG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will see when we see you piece out.