Giants Finish Off Sweep of Cardinals | Thompson 2 Clark Postgame

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[SPEAKER_01]: for the first time in a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like, something kind of fun and cool to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a sweep, yeah, of the St. Louis Cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It couldn't have outside of the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are very few teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would rather see them sweep than St. Louis Cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a bad blood over the years with these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I will say now what we're doing this right out, you know, how are after the game finished and the reason we've been doing these like little post gamers is because when we just record on Monday, we're like recapping what happened over the past week and

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[SPEAKER_01]: often like not great and not interesting and not a ton to talk about but when we do these post gamers we can actually just recap the game and talk about the game a little bit more closely and then you know whatever else happened during the week but this was actually like a fun game to talk about because after taking the first two games

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[SPEAKER_01]: they took the lead in the very first inning and I was like, all right, Bryce Eldridge coming through again, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they just start losing and then it got to six to one and by the seventh inning, I was like, uh, two out of three ain't bad, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the meatloaf song, two out of three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, man,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows, maybe our audience is mostly old dudes like us has true and it's true and so then I go to the gym

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I go to the gym and I'm like, yeah, you know, there may be the gym will have it on, no, games not on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm only paying attention based on your tweets, or I'm sorry, your texts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm like walking on the treadmill and my warm up and I start to see your texts and then, Jay H. Lee, and I was like, oh my gosh, what happened?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they actually, in the eighth inning,

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[SPEAKER_01]: they get a bit of a rally going, did they score six in the eighth?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They, yes, they scored six in the eighth inning loaded up the bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they loaded up the bases with nobody out and they were able to get all those runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the most amazing part of this team when they can score with bases loaded and nobody

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[SPEAKER_00]: that's easy for other teams to do if you're a giants fan you know it's not easy for us to do over the years yeah so you get the bases low and nobody out we go ah we're gonna get all run out of this or something but now they just kept by one one

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, bottom of the eighth, base is loaded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bryce Eldridge, he hits against the shift.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they have the short stop playing like right behind second base, and the third basement is kind of shading toward short stop.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he basically hits a ball that would, you know, a short stop would have to generally take like two or three steps to the left and to feel it and throw them out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But because there's nobody there,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basit, Turner Hill, and Brett Harris scores.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, Brett Harris just came up a couple days ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sorry, Turner Hill, third, Brett Harris, and Drew Kavanaugh score.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then, Jonah Cox hits like an excuse me, ground ball, and I don't think the short stuff knew Jonah Cox's speed very well, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I don't, I mean, he didn't really take his sweet time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did rush it a little bit, but you know, he, if he would have known the speed, I think he would have even heard even more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Jonah Hill beats it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: then jungle Lee pulls a ball foul that he hits on the nose and then almost the exact same swing almost put the dent in the right field bricks and doubles and that was the that was the tax robbers almost fell off of the treadmill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, Jonah scored Bryce scored so that tied the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, Shay Shay, Shay Whitcom hits a ball that is about two or three feet from being a homerun dead center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hits right at the top of the wall, junk who scores, and they take the seven to six lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, you know, we've been in this scenario before, we were like, oh, a lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is late in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are not very comfortable with this lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not going to go well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Trent Harris.

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[SPEAKER_01]: comes in and he gives up a hit, but gets out of it and earns his first save.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that his first save in the bigs?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's his first save in the big leagues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gave up a solid base hit, but then got a nice ground ball for the double play and then another jam the next batter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: got in on the hands, just kind of rolled one over to third base, not a lot of noise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what's been hurting this this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have not seen a ninth inning guy with not a lot of noise being made in the ninth inning, and then just kind of cruising to save granted a line drive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The single was a line drive between

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a gaper that almost got out of ballpark or something like that, uh, but then for him to buckle down and he had an attitude to and I like because he had he had his top like two or three buttons undone kind of like, you know, like B weezy right close to

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, just kind of a tank top underneath and so he had the shirt open attitude after he got the last out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was pumping his fist and looking to caven on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was so fun to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think just because we've been deprived of that for like, you know, two plus years of some sort of, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: emotion in the ninth inning spot and I thought are we seeing the beginning of the making of a bigly closer right here and and it's possible I mean it's it's possible it's you know first save but he's been pitching really well since his first outing against Detroit when he first came up got sheld but since then he's been pitching awesome so to have somebody who's kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's this point, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll talk about this near the end of the show because I do want to look at some of these guys who are playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they are playing for a roster spot next year or if they're playing for a roster spot on somebody else's team, because you have a guy like Jonah Cox.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's ever going to hit, but man, he sure is fast, and you can always use fast alphilders, especially in this park, but that like that, it's like a, he doesn't seem at least yet that he's very well rounded, but he has like this one major skill set, which is the giant's lack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like nobody's pissed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I big time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's every year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, where's the speed going to come from?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's look at this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe jungle Lee will still 17 bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he'll still 15 to have a guy that could possibly steal 30 or 40.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, you got to get on base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: the way he's getting on base right now are in field singles he's beaten things out I mean it's like two or three games in a row he's just beating things out so uh i that's give me that give me an attitude closer give me baseball players who want to be there who are fighting to be there or fighting to get wins and i i'm eating this up right now man this team is ten and seven

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[SPEAKER_00]: since they got swept out of Boston.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three games over 500 over the span of 17 games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's no way I could have predicted that or anybody could have predicted that a month ago watching this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And winning set Timberso far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they are like five and four in September or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, so I mean, they had a good end of August, good beginning of September.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this is fun baseball again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited to turn on the games each day again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though I was watching them, I was like, oh my god, we're down six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One, you know, today I thought, yeah, here we go again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're down six one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I started thinking of the back of my head.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a different six one than we've seen like a month ago because these guys are fighting there there's no give up in this team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see we saw the the extra ining win on a Monday night on Labor Day and that was fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a good fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a battle on those guys just didn't give up and they're believing in themselves right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's less pressure for sure when you've only won 62.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well and they they

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they made sure they're not going to lose 101 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 62, one more, one more week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lynch, a non 100 loss season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those 85 giants, they're ready to bust out the champagne.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once they're six to 12.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're lucky, the undefeated Miami Dolphins bust out the champagne.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're 100 loss team, you got to bust out something else, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The milk that was sitting in the sun all day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what the chief is beer possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember the beer back in the day that just said beer on it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was just watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw my Instagram post where I was watching just one of the guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The mid 80s comedy classic and the beer that they had in that movie just had the label that said beer on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Generic beer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, like can we talk about Brice this price.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll just have a nickname like what are we calling him like big bright seems like too simplistic like we have Big sexy because he said he felt sexy at the play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get you know from when he first came up I mean we were calling him that a little bit who else was nickname the big sexy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wasn't there somebody else nickname big sexy?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it was it Benjimolina or something like that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably not the nickname Big Sexy is most famously used for Kevin Colone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh Bartolico alone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's who it is that maybe that's like that Benjimolina.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was also WCW wrestler Kevin Nash who called himself Big Sexy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's he's definitely going to get a nickname.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and will the thrill was so easy to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but price.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Aldridge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's there's going to, there's going to be something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, man was born in 2004.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I don't want to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: 268, 16 jacks, 52 RBI.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 52 RBI.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And how many games?

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[SPEAKER_01]: 100 games?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's like 79 or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a for a rookie for a 20 year old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who we thought wasn't going to have command of the strike zone, we thought was going to strike out 35 to 40% of the times at the plate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, to have, you said 16 jacks, 16 and 50 something ribs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what you want to see out of Bryce Eldridge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: None of us thought he was going to come up and hit 40 home runs his first year or do anything like that because he's going to grow into that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to grow into that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think his ability to go the other way is like the most impressive thing to go the other way and to go the other way and just hit it as hard as he does is yeah, she, uh, Bryce is is quite the specimen because, you know, those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that long swing you just and it may happen next year, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to figure out like, okay, how can we attack this guy?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do we not let him extend his arms?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, how do we get him to like pull his, you know, he's going to want to pull his hands in on the inside stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how do we stop it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, those type of things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know the one guy who you can point at and go like if Bryce could just sort of like go that guy Aaron judge who just came back from injury like they're about the same height and and Aaron judge has figured out how to do it he's got tremendous power you know Bryce is still so young Bryce will get stronger as he gets a little bit older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I would, you know, I would maybe reach out to Aaron over the offseason and go, hey, man, like, I need to learn some tricks here because you've got to figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also, also, how do you get so big?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he should be asking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how much?

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[SPEAKER_00]: muscle is normal to put on in an off season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you really went at it at 20, 21 years old, how many, you know, pounds of muscle would you look at?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's still a pretty thin guy, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's not weak in any way, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can tell like he's, he has a more of a thinner kind of skeleton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think if I was him, uh, I put it on fairly slowly, but I'd probably start with the bottom half, uh, you know, just to get the bottom half strong because, yeah, that's where the, you know, that's where a lot of his hip action and his ability to turn on stuff is going to come from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, he, he can always, it's not hard for young people to,

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[SPEAKER_01]: add muscle to their arms and their chest and their shoulders because that's just fun kind of lifting versus if you can like stuff as far as the right but I mean just personal trainer and you know he's gets his diet right though being 21 or whatever and you know eating healthy probably not the most fun thing to do but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Man, you know, the man is I say man just because you know, he's still kind of like a young dude But he just looks like he has the physical stature of like That's the guy on the on the team like that's the dude like that's who you want the team to kind of circle around and It's just it's impressive to watch to know that he's so young and just to think like from this day on He's more than likely going to just keep getting better

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he'll have his hurdles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll, you know, like I said, pictures will kind of figure out some things and then he'll have to figure out those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's just fun to watch him now and I, you know, I just appreciate the season that he's having because we haven't had a ton to, you know, to cheer about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess we should talk about devours as well because

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Devers is he held the weight and responsibility of being the highest paid player and, you know, maybe being a little moody, not the friendly sky, not someone who goes to the media, but he just plays like the guy doesn't take it, they gave him the day off today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They almost had to force him off of the field because he's so much wants to play every day, which is a great ability to have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And his numbers have just jumped off the page in the last couple of months, you know, he's got a shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He probably won't get there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to have a shot at 40 bombs after the start that he had this year is incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His average is not going to be, you know, fantastic, but the doubles and the jacks and, you know, his, his, uh, OPS is back kind of to it to where we were hoping it was like, we, if we asked at the beginning of the season, if, if he gave us this season, we would have been totally happy with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of it you would want it to be a little bit more even out in consistent because maybe they could have hung in to some of these games earlier if he was playing as well as he has, but he's still posting man in, you know, I think a lot of us We're kind of lying on maybe we're gonna turn the page on him, but I think you specifically you were, you know, you and my son JJ were kind of like, I think he's gonna turn it around and he did he absolutely did

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's that type of player and you got to remember two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still 29.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not like he's like 32, 33 or anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if he's having this type of season at 29, I think we can expect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: these types of seasons for like, you know, another three, four years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, hopefully.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as long as you stay healthy and, uh, and he's comfortable in San Francisco and he seems really like playing with the kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could tell you that much of me just watching him out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like he's having a blast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure it was hurting him to be out of the line up today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, they do have an off day tomorrow, so it gives them a couple of days in their at home, so, you know, and they're staying at home this weekend, which is good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think that's going to help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm kind of, you know, finish off the season, but when somebody's that hot, you know, and take them out online up not necessarily, but, but yeah, I think, again, it's got to be, and historically, he's a slow starter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I know when he starts slow next year, people are going to freak out, and we just got to remember what he can do once he gets hot and starts going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if the rest of the team around him is hitting, and that was the problem, he wasn't hitting, but nobody else was hitting the first part of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: William Domus was not going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chapman was not going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, nobody was hitting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then all of a sudden Casey Schmidt started hitting and then other guys were hitting and then he started to heat up and then everybody got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so you know that was kind of the damper on the season right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he was hot at the beginning of the season would this be a different season for the giants?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, 20, 24 games, 23 games under 500.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can only hit so much if your pitch is not doing anything, and that's been the problem all season long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But having Devers heat up to be what he has been, that's been a blast to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even as ow, it's like 110 off the bat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's disgusting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Buster's got an interesting job because I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: you would want to improve at every spot if you could.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you are to do, but you invested so much in the last two years in the middle part of the order and on that left side of the defense in the infield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you were to go like, okay, what if 2026 was just an anomaly and those guys come back and Casey comes back and devours an elderly or right in the middle of the order.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are my two, my two and three hitters or depending on if you face, you know, lefties, then maybe you adjust that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But those are that I'm running it back with those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I think they do have to improve the

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure that they have their answer, you know, necessarily in center field, um, we'll see because we have somebody like Bo Davidson waiting on the outside, you know, looking in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think I would necessarily say sure fire guarantees going to, you know, be on the team, like he's got to prove himself still, but he's having a terrific season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you just go, hey, well, I, you know, we may make some additions here and there, you know, especially in center field, we'll get up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll try and do our best to get off of that beta contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to invest in not only the starting pitching, but we're going to invest in, you know, more than just the back end arms that we did last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It may take them going after a guy, you know, who could actually be a number two or

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[SPEAKER_01]: that could that might have to be a trade as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Logan Web, I think land in group is probably like really good as a four or five and probably not so good as a number two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hayden Burtzong will see what happens with him, but he was struggling right before he left or right before he got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... i don't know who else is in this rotation currently that you see that is getting innings i mean we saw today tidwell so inconsistent with with this control and he doesn't throw high ninety he's throws mid nineties and he missed well actually i don't even think he missed but the home run that that kid hit was like

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[SPEAKER_01]: two or three inches above the strike zone and be but it was only because it was only 95 He pulled that thing almost in the water.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it was like, oh my god, like, you know, if that's 97 98, he's probably missing that pitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a little bit of of the difference for some like tidwell, but or late on it or Yeah, right now we're tossing it up something yeah

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, you know, I do wonder if Buster looks at it as, you know, I'm going to roll the dice on my vats again, and then hope that they at least get back to their average or, you know, what we would expect out of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And instead, it's really the starting pitching that we need to fix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, some of these arms who are in the rotation today, maybe they are your bullpen arms.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, maybe

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[SPEAKER_01]: The tugger is just some funky lefty to get lefties out throwing, you know, 92, and he just becomes a very specialized middle arm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe Tidwell, if he finds some control, maybe he's your seventh inning arm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to go back to what you said about Harris, my fear is that the giants have, and this has been my fear for the last few years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Harris, Dylan Smith, Randy Rodriguez, guys like that, they feel seventh and eighth inning to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't feel closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I'm not sure if that's it, but I'm going to guess that when Randy Rodriguez comes back, they're going to be like, okay, it's your job to lose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you made the all star team two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then maybe they try and fill after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's where Dylan Smith and maybe Trent Harris fit in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, like I still feel like, you know, they probably don't have that guy yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're a fellow, and you had so many issues with your bullpen, because of not only

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of understanding how to manage a major league both him but also didn't just to have the talent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know if if Buster could give him a nice, you know, a little birthday present there, a dependable ninth inning arm would would probably go a long way for Vitello.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'll just make his job easier, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's just what I was thinking as I was watching this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I wonder if they just roll the dice with the offense and really just invest in the pitching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the hardest part that we have to do is kind of temper expectations with with with with with ran rod Randy Rodriguez only because he's coming back from Tommy John so I don't think he's personally I don't think he's gonna be given that ninth inning roll right off the bat because I don't know if you want him in those high leverage high amped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: high adrenaline situations coming back from the Tommy John, so I think he might have to be worked into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's going to take too long because once you're up there, if you're I mean, if you're throwing off a major league mound after Tommy John surgery and you're on the roster and you're out there, it's because you're ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Your arm is ready and you've been cleared everything's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's that little bit of an amp up, you know, when you're pitching

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ampness in you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just made a word.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ampness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to call like a fantasy football team, the Los Angeles Ampnesses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you're out there throwing on the mound and you're throwing super hard and everything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a little bit harder than you are in the sixth or seventh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's just, you know, it's just a theory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it might take a month or so to get back into that role, but having him back there and possibly having Trent Harris, if he continues, I mean, Trent Harris has weeks to continue to grow in this role and then he's got spring training to continue to grow into a high leverage late any role.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then go back to the starting pitching like you were talking about there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Busters got a nut up right he's he's got to go out there and say look man well I got a sign somebody to a five year deal with a two year opt-out if you're if you're going to get some serious starting pitching to go with Logan Webb because I'm sure Logan won't be sitting in the background arms cross gone man

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had Robby Ray, you know, in the past, I've had Robby Ray and Snell and then I had Verlander, I had these guys, but they don't stick around long enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get me somebody on a three-year deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Get me somebody on a five-year deal with a two-year opt-out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me hang out with a couple of good starting, but give me a top one, two and three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we'll worry about four and five, but let's go one, two, and three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not a malley, not a hazard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get a legit one, two, and three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A malley would kind of be nice right now, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's dealing with the brave.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought the brave's figuring it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, hey, I can't remember which pitch it was, but they basically took it away from him and they're like, you're going fastball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it was a like a splitter fork.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, you're going splitter fastball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The cutter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the one that was getting sheld here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he goes over there and they're like, you're not throwing that anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's like basically a two-pitch picture with a little bit of a change up and then a cutter every now and then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, yeah, maybe we change our pitching coaching staff, but to have I mean that is something that they do have to look at like I don't know if that's the problem it's easy to play coachy and sometimes the grass is greener on the other side, but they do have to look into it because Mali and you know Eric Miller I don't you know I give

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of some of the Eric Miller stuff is I think he's just being used smarter because the giant the giant's had to kind of use him so often and maybe not in his best role.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think, you know, that's some of Eric Miller, but yeah, I mean, Mali like this guy was he picked it up at the end just right so that we could trade him, but yeah, he was like not good for a decent part of this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah, speaking of Eric Miller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's gone over to Boston.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a 0.68 ERA and 13 and a third innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, and we were using him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a closer role, we were bringing him in with the bases loaded and nobody out and then he had to face one lefty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there were three varieties behind him behind that batter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he was always putting really tough situations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the type of guy you bring him with two outs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got a tough lefty that you're facing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get that lefty, you're out of the inning, and then you don't have to bring them back in because of the inning change, but yeah, I think pitching wise back into the bullpen, two starters that you got to pay for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I don't know how many,

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[SPEAKER_00]: stories about San Francisco Giants ownership I've seen over the last two or three days coming from the San Francisco standard coming from the Chronicle about ownership and what are their goals and everything else and how we are they fifth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: most valuable club and all of the MLB.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to pay for pitching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the bottom line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm glad those stories are coming out too because fans can look at that and say, look at this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got the money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pay for the pitching because now we're starting to see, these guys can score six runs in the eighth inning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they gonna do that every day?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, but still, they can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This team is capable of putting some runs on the board.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... our our guys who go slug says uh... young megal mendas coming up if you remember mendas is the kid that they got in the podrace trade for rubby right and they also got the other guy uh... you know her nandes who's uh... people think is just kind of like that you like the that like the maybe they got one over on the pods getting both of these um...

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it is, you know, it is something to look forward to, you know, we're looking for glimpses of things that we can look forward to in this terrible terrible season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, I was just kind of like probably happier than necessary for a 62 win team with only 16 games left or whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But hey, a sweet man, like we haven't seen many of those this year's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will take it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm in, I very much enjoyed, and even I didn't get to see it because I was at the gym, but I did go back and I watched the highlights and it was like, okay, this was definitely a lot of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one of those ones too that you said you watched the highlights, but if you're watching the game, you're watching

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the eighth inning, not just, you know, not just, oh, there's a hit, there's a walk, there's a good at bats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, guys laying off of stuff that are easily swingable pitches that are just outside of the zone, guys laying off getting their pitches and putting good swings on the ball and getting to the next guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the key, and they talked about that after the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shay Whitcom was interviewed, and he said, you know, we talked about all the time in situations like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pass the baton, get on base, find your pitch, get on base, get hit by a pitch, walk, single, double triple home run, whatever you got to do, get it to the next guy, and they did such a great job with that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, I just want to go through a couple of the guys who are actually getting some babies here and I'm just wondering what your thoughts are on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, do they have a chance to stick around next year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Most of these guys are like all like 27 and 28-year-olds and, you know, that's kind of like baseball death in a sense because, you know, these teams, they have your rights for so many years and when you're 27 or 28, you know, like, okay, you're gonna be waves more than likely or, you know, you're finding other opportunities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: What about somebody like Turner Hill, who is 27 years old?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually hitting 270 this year, 12 RBI, no homeruns.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But just these trying to make trying to put some stuff on a resume and possibly do some things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know he's been in the miners since 2023.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, what do you think somebody like Turner Hill could find a spot next year, either on the Giants or on somebody else's team?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Turner Hill, I don't want to see him go anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see him stick with us and really work through spring training.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Giants kind of have a luxury of fourth or fifth health filters at this point to kind of figure out who they've got what they want to do with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, if you're looking for power, you're not going to find it in Turner Hill, but you are going to find plate selection, you're going to find pick selection.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of those guys that buster likes in terms of, and I mean, going back to the far horn days, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Farhan was always looking for those, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: walk to strike out ratio one to one and and turner hill right now is ten walks in eleven strikeouts in in sixty three up at so eleven strikeouts in sixty three up at so it's kind of what you're looking for guys going to put the ball play it's got twelve runs driven in

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[SPEAKER_00]: 372 on base percentage in 270.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see him as a fifth outfielder next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he can also play in field, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what's going to make him extremely valuable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A guy that can come off the bench.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and and get some knocks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's going to be huge and also you can spot sternum.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jungle Lee needs a day off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You pop in Turner Hill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could also play two in those two guys, but it's hard to it's hard right now even to take Jungle Lee out of the lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They do, but I mean you saw what you did in the eighth inning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean he's he's all over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He almost hit a home run and then he wrapped one to the wall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still hitting 281.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know he slowed down earlier in the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was hitting over 300.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 281 still, you know, and he's going to wear down just because, you know, he's such a skinny skinny dude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope he could not that he needs to put muscle on necessarily, but it seems like he's wasting away a little bit as he's using gets longer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He needs more pasta before the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So another guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jonah Cox, we talked about 25 years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is his first season in the big leagues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They actually have him playing multiple positions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He plays the outfield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He played center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He plays second base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has the speed that we do enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about Jonah Cox?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's another one, and see, here's the problem, because you got him and then you also have costs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got costs, you've got Jonah Cox, and you've got Turner Hill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've got three guys who are, I mean, two guys who can hit, and one guy in Christian costs, who, there's all of the sudden hitting home runs, he's got three home runs in the last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Looking at Jonah Cox, again, the speed is an intangible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could trade him and maybe get a bullpen piece, get a good lefty arm, it's possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna have to package him with somebody else, but you can get a lefty arm out of him, but I love speed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see him on the team next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are gonna need backup in filters, but I think it's gonna be

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[SPEAKER_00]: a battle between him and Christian costs for the backup spot next year because you're also going to have Casey Schmidt, Adomas and Chapman all back, plus Devers, plus Aldridge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now you're looking at, I mean, can you carry two extra outfielders or in fielders slash outfielders?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I would love to see Cox stick around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he does because of the intangible of

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[SPEAKER_01]: He stole over 50 bases in the minors two years in a row yeah, so he's getting on base enough in the minors now Can he get on base in the majors?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a little bit of a different story and you know that and they also have somebody who again You know a little bit older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be 25 later this year Victor Baricoto

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, kind of, I imagine in a similar spot, if you consider Jonah Cox and outfielder, Barracoto probably can go back and play in the minors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He finished.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 2,000 in 26 with sack, 282, the year before with three teams in the miners, he actually jumped quite a bit last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hit 271.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there is some promise there, but he doesn't have that intangible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like Jonah Cox does, where it's like, hey, if anything, Jonah Cox is like the fastest guy on this team, so, you know, in it in a pinch, you bring him in to play defense and or you bring him into his pinch runner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you need Barracodot to hit and probably hit with power to, uh, to be on the squad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and when you look at his OPS and the miners, I mean, it's not,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... barricodos it's not you know anything fantastic is ops intripley this year was seven sixty three uh... twenty twenty five across three teams were was the uh... double a triple a and rookie ball uh...

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[SPEAKER_00]: OPS total for the three teams was 7.91, 20.24, AA was 6.93.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not, I mean, he's not just a masher power guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like you said, lacking that intangible, I think that's a problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he's a triple A guy or maybe somewhere else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, the giant's starting to stack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: without filters right now in AAA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the last three guys we talked about including Barracota, I think you have to hang on to them because you've got to have out filters in AAA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't just have them here or nowhere else because you just don't have those bodies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: another guy who I think is going to get edged out because he just hasn't hit enough in the bigs, Shay Shay, Shay, Whitcom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This dude was an insane power hitter in the miners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like in in 2023, in the Texas league and in the PCL combined it 35 jacks into 2023.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 24 PCL pretty much a full season in the PCL 25 jacks and then last year again PCL did not make the big league club 25 jacks again and then just yeah like you know he just doesn't seem to have gotten a ton of opportunities to play in the big league so

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[SPEAKER_01]: when he has had that opportunity he had a 2024 hit 41 at bats with Houston 2025 he had 32 at bats and then this year the 51 at bats with San Francisco's the most he's ever gotten in the big leagues and he's only hit 176 so

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, probably not going to be someone who sticks, but, you know, maybe if he can, you know, he hit that, that hit the hell out of that ball today for the go ahead run, but yeah, just not hitting enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's hard to say with him, but but I would think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they could stash him and triple a, you know, he'd be a good guy, you can bring up familiarity is a huge thing with a lot of these guys and organizations to if you're familiar with the organization, you're familiar with the ballpark, you're familiar with coaching staff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chapman goes down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need a third baseman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can move, Schmidt over to third, or you can leave him at second, which we think he's going to be our second baseman next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you can pop up with and put him over a third base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's always nice to have because then you have to get used to, you don't have to worry about him coming up and getting used to things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, he was just picked up off of waivers in mid-August 27 years old, so I could easily see him being somewhere else next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll just add Drew Kavanaugh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Drew Kavanaugh's are starting catcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drew Kavanaugh could definitely be your number two catcher, though, I think if he's coming out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sue Sack and him, I think that would be pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we're going to change hats here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, here we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to talk a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you, the giant's piece of this is done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, why are we going to talk football well?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is because Brad is a Ram's fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a 49ers fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We want winners this coming back, and we've been back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Rod and I are coming back Thursday night after Ram's Niners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in Australia and on Netflix which is kind of crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are the Netflix game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Give me your thoughts because I saw the Rams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They finally touched down in Australia, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They left last night around five or six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they should have been there a few hours ago,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, what would that be?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like midnight, 11 AM or midnight or like one AM or something like that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I don't personally, I hate this whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, me too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get the Rams and the Niners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, you're talking about two of the three teams with the best record in the NFC last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're gonna put them on the first game of the season, rival reason to division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In Australia, just like tonight's game, I don't understand the Super Bowl rematch being played as the first game of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's interesting to see Seattle in New England play, but should it be the first game of the entire season?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't personally, I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think the Rams and Niners are a.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Especially this season are a midseason game or a late season game and I know we're going to play later later in this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't like any of this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I know the almighty dollar rules the NFL and all of sports and you got to reach out to other countries, but you know, send the chargers and Broncos down there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, see the thing is though, you want to kick the season off with a bang.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so tonight, you have Seattle in New England in the Super Bowl matchup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Rematch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then tomorrow's the Niners and the Rams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there, you know, this one is the Sunday night football is on Wednesday night and the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The peacock game or whatever it is, and then now you're working with Netflix So the idea that you need like that meaty game to kind of kick off this nip not kick off this netflix relationship But this is the first time netflix is doing this type of game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was important to the NFL to make sure that Netflix got something But like you I would rather see these teams play each other

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[SPEAKER_01]: rested instead of one of one team adapting to the time and possibly being jetlagged in your team trying to pretend that time does not exist and they're just going to wake up and play a game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's the multiverse right it's it's like when it's like when they get into that thing and and uh Avengers was it endgame?

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think it was Infinity Wars or they uh or might it might have been endgame or they where they hopped in that thing went to different multiverse as grab all the different stones yeah and then come back that's what the Rams are doing right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just like, I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna hop in there, we're gonna play a football game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna, they did that in London, but you're talking about the Rams on the West Coast, or they were on the East Coast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They played a game on the East Coast, stayed on the East Coast to practice, flew to London, which is like seven hours from the East Coast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the day before play the game, got to hell out of there, beat the jags, the jags were a playoff team at the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is not that, but again, yeah, hey, there's guys, we know how analytics are nowadays and sleep studies and body chemistry and everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hello, I just bought an $80 scale the other day that I can hold the bar and it could tell me my body fat, bris, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if I can get that, these guys have the top of the line,

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so Aaron Donald not did not make the trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to give him a little bit of time to kind of keep getting things back together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been off of the two year retirement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Niners already lost one of their starting defensive tackles Alfred Collins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He ruptured or fractured his Patela or something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just practicing in in Melbourne.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to be without that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're already thin on the defensive line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Boses coming back from injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess he's going to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's probably going to be on a pitch count.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael Williams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're draft pick from last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Their first pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is not playing for the first four games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going to be very light on the defensive line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be relying on you know secondary players to kind of plug some spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a positive for you guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think are you with what it seems to be the NFL prediction, you know, all the, all the folks making predictions that the Rams are clearly head and shoulders above the rest of the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw a, was a survey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know exactly if it was like 31 beat writers or 31, some rather, but there was like, you know, every, every team was represented.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there were like 32 picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like 23 of them said that the Rams are going to win the Super Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, that's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a lot, I'm, you know, I'm a Rams fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I will never sit back and say, we got this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna roll through this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been a Rams fan since 1983.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen it all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the team in 1999 that won the Super Bowl, nobody picked them, they came out of nowhere, Kurt Warner, the crew, they won the Super Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think any team can do that, any team can get on a heater, especially in the playoffs, roll through and get to the Super Bowl and play well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last year, the Rams should have beaten the Seahawks twice and they didn't, they couldn't pull it off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They went and made the upgrades that they needed to make in the secondary, which was the main thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Their offensive line is still tough, you know, in terms of

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[SPEAKER_00]: injuries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you get injuries on that offensive line, it's not deep defensive line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have Miles Garrett last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't have Aaron Donald last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now they do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be a strength.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to get to the quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to, I think their defense is going to play lights out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The offense does have a tendency to sputter from time to time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pook into Kua might get suspended at some point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll let it walk in the glass again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a lyric Jackson, one of their offensive linemen, one of their best offensive linemen, might also get suspended as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: there's so many factors that go into an NFL season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You and I have been around long enough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can go on with the best team in the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't mean anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just going to do what I've been doing since McVay took over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every game as it is, every playoff game as it is, take the good with the bad and just have a good time watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: do I personally think they can make a run and win the super well absolutely also thought to last year also thought so they're here before also thought so you're before then I think that every year because I go hey you know you just need to get into the playoffs and play good football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The year before they lost his two Seattle, two years ago, they went into Philly and lost on the last play of the game in the snow and then Philly goes on and Philly goes on and wins the Super Bowl and the Rams all they had to do was get past them and then they might have had a better track.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're talking three years in a row, they could be Super Bowl favorites technically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you got to play the games man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to go out there and you got to play the games and you got to win those games and the games are one on the margins and the Rams found that out last year with special teams and they went out and they made changes on special teams too and they fixed hopefully fixed that but we'll see you don't know until the games are played.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think as long as the old man back there, stays healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: An absolute great shot to get far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Tyson's so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tyson's good and he could be your number two guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he could be your number two guy and could he step in and no, he can't step in to be a Matthew Staffer because Matthew Staffer just NFL MVP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he makes decisions so quickly, very decisively, usually the right decision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you don't even sometimes you don't even get an opportunity to rush him because it's the balls out so quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the Niners, I think the Niners are going to play well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I would actually pick them to win this game because they're still like, I don't think, like, if the injuries don't come back and bite them like they did last year, like, if you're saying what is going to be like the best version of this team, I think it's going to be in the middle of the season because they're going to get guys back and they're going to get guys healthier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So opening the season, I don't think they're going to be as good as they could be in the middle of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I just want to see them play well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see how Debo fits back in the offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see how healthy kiddo looks, how healthy Bosa looks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see how fresh Christian McAfrey looks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see this kid, uh, Stribbling who who has the nickname.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Strib Club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be their third receiver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to see, you know, that's, it's a, this is almost like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: it still feels like the preseason a little bit because you don't get to see anything in the preseason anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So game one is kind of a funky game in general.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is not the best version of both teams that I think we'll see, which kind of makes a little bit of a wild card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The game that they play in Santa Clara later this year will probably be a better indicator of how they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I want to see, I want to see the Niners play well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to see them have

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[SPEAKER_01]: going out there early or going out there late and we'll see who's who strategy works better show yet that that's the funny thing to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all that's been talked about and and you

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[SPEAKER_00]: And fortunately, that's going to be the talk of who won or lost the game, even though it may not even be a factor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I just don't want this game in Australia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this is going to be the future of the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to get into games and the teams are watching how the Niners and the Rams, how they dealt with the travel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: how it looked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know if you could tell if it affected them or not, like if all of a sudden, you know, Brock Perty is half of a second late on a read.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that because he's grubby for like who knows, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be the talk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm sure, you know, hey, I could see the Rams losing this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could have not because of the travel, but just because this is Sean McVay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sean McVay can start the season two and two, two and three, three and three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he kind of has to feel out like what are defenses in the NFL right now doing to us, especially, you know, 13 personnel where you've got, you know, three tight ends on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What are they doing to us and how can I combat that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they go on a six or seven game eater.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's just kind of what this Rams team does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're beginning quarter of the season as Rams fan under Sean McCday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's always a bit frustrating because you're like, we're running last year's offense or a different offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're chewing us up on defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of a sudden, we start running to completely different offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then you're like, okay, and now we've won six games in a row.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's awesome to watch, but yeah, the first quarter of the season is always tough as a Ramsman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that was your little sneak preview to tomorrow night's show with Rod and myself, Brad and I like to do this a little bit when when our teams play and yeah, so yeah, a little little little extra additive to Thompson to Clark today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So check yeah, if you are if you are following tomorrow night's game Rod and I will be up not too long after the game is over on Netflix so and Rams fans are welcome to to chime in by me because I'm my poppin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, our last year, the biggest audience we had was Seattle Seahawks fans after Seahawks beat the Niners and I was like, hey, if you, if you want to come and hang out in the comments, go to it me because you know, you guys have a really good team and then they went on to win the Super Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to Sugo Slugs for hanging out with us in the chat and everyone else who are watching on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is it from here for Brad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm WGCU when we see you piece out.