Whisenhunt Debuts, Giants Trade Targets, & 1987 Deja Vu? | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_00]: with Drosion, throws to Sandberg and the pitches proud of the second base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thompson has it, throws the first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty seven years of waiting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's up on the pen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we are back on Thompson to Clark talking about a very sad leak in giant space.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Although I guess beating the Braves twice in Atlanta was okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're supposed to be in the Braves at this point, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But man, coming home and just dropping three and a row to the Metz was rough stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, one of the things that I think it's the night, it was two shows ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd kind of broken down the first half and second half and one of the trends of the last several years with the one exception of the outlier of twenty twenty one is that the giants couldn't put together two halves in a row and yeah this second eighty two games or the sorry second eighty one games

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[SPEAKER_00]: is not great and it kind of fits the trend of of how they've played where you cannot have a full season of good baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like first half or second half and then there's a there's a differential and I guess you know if you're looking at the team the way that it's built

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[SPEAKER_00]: with the starting pitching being so young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does make some sort of sense that the starting pitching isn't going to be as good in the second half, but then you would hope that the hitting would pick up and it just absolutely hasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think are you expecting them to bounce back?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you think that we're just headed for another really bad second half?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was expecting the bounce back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm kind of running out of was at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of tough because the trends when you start to just look at all the trends offensively for this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think since like the beginning of June pretty much the worst team with runners in scoring position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that would fix itself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that that would come around because that's all you need to come around really when you're the giants and you have good starting pitching and you have good bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just need to key hits with runners in scoring position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is now you've put so much

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[SPEAKER_01]: pressure on the offense to do that, that when they do slump the whole team just takes a nose dive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I, I, I hate bearing teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate being, I mean, especially our team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hate bearing the giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, three or four days before the trade deadline, I mean, what was it going back to Farhan's like first season with the giants, I mean, the giants have been right around five hundred almost every single All-Star break except for, uh, two thousand twenty one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in fact, this season, we had one of the better first halves in a while.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we did because of the first like thirty games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know after that it's just been a five hundred club and then over the last.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, what did I see today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fourteen and twenty four over their last thirty eight games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's just, you know, that everything is trending downward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, and we'll talk about it later, but everything we've seen so far and everything we've read so far and everything Buster has said so far as this team is in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to, you know, imagine that means that so much last night, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm on board.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, if they do it, you go ahead and get devours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got to kind of keep doing stuff, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't just stop at that point and go, well, we've got devours for the next X amount of years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, you got them this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's a reason you went out and got them this year is because you believe in this team and you think that you could push them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can help push you over the finish line, but then you've got to go get other parts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then since that devours trade, the parts that they need have gotten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so it's not like they just needed up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we'll add a starting pitcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're beginning this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we had Jordan Hicks on the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had Kyle Harrison in AAA waiting to come up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had birds on waiting to get in the he couldn't even crack into the into the starting rotation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now and now or down the Weber A and Verlander.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and just toss a coin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a lot that needs to be done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if Buster is going to make those moves, it's not just one or two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's some moves that need to be made.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so what are we going to talk about?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we are going to talk about wisdom hunt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He pitches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They play tonight, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he pitches tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We won't know what happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The game will be the game won't even start until we're pretty much done here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll talk about wisdom hunt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about some of the trade deadline rumors and we'll get some thoughts on folks who could help the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like you said, they went all in with their big move, which was devours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I don't know if there's another big move coming, it could be some smaller moves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you go all in like that and you give up your, you know, your top pitching prospect at the time, you know, there was expected impact that that just has not happened yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and then we'll talk a little bit about our player of the week, and we're gonna try out a new segment, which is the San Francisco Giants history, kind of like this week, or this timeframe in history, and I'm gonna try and relate, at least this one related to this year, and maybe some optimism will spread based off of what we're gonna talk about here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But okay, because there's some small similarities into what I'm going to talk about versus this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's talk about Carson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've been talking about Carson for a little while now and it is, it's kind of unfortunate that his debut has to happen because Landon Rupert got hurt and Landon Rupert who we both were kind of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if this dude is gonna be all that great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a fifth starter, and he's never really pitched that much in his pro career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yet, he was pitching really well for the team, pitching much better than Bird Song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And prior to in Harrison was up, pitching better in Harrison was, and then unfortunately, he's got the elbow thing, which have we heard anything else related to his injury?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what's the expectation of him being out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't heard anything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of worry some bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just that he's going to be okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know who knows what that means.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the kid is up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He sort of inherited their best pitching prospects, but because of the trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We the things that we know and obviously I talked to Jared earlier this year about him and he basically said the guy doesn't have

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[SPEAKER_00]: electric stuff outside of one pitch, which is this change up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he says, if his change up plays huge for him in the big leagues, that may be the only excellent pitch that he needs because it could be so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fast ball is not fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is below average.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then his other stuff is sort of rounding into shape.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Jared did say that the change up is the big pitch for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we'll see it starting tonight, but a little bit of like a happy moment for me, because I've been wanting to see this guy throw, but also at the same time at the expense of another young pitcher getting hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's a little bittersweet, but what are you looking for with Carson Wizzon Hunt?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I'm with you on that too because we we wanted to see with come up like in September get a couple of stars, you know, maybe be the fifth starter just because, you know, he was ready, but yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's going to be it's going to be tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it feel rushed?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Little bit, like you said, we're definitely feel that way because does he have a third pitch?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of the big question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they do talk about a slider as possibly being a third pitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how well it's developed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At this point, obviously, they feel it's developed enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because when you've got Mason Black and Kaway Tang down in AAA, who have been there for a little bit and could probably pop up and fill that spot as well, in order to bring up wisdom hunting and say, look, man, now's your time, let's get you in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he here to stay?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not, you know, at this point in the season, if the giants do make a trade, group gets better,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bird song comes around, you know, then then was an hunt can finish out and AAA the rest of the season and then we'll get him up, you know, and spring and see what he could do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's got that seventy grade change up and he's got the ninety two to ninety four mile an hour fast ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they play off of each other really well, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But usually you see two pitch pitcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: as like a seventh eighth or ninth inning guy you don't necessarily see him as a starter so so I'm really for me I really really really want to see what that third pitch looks like I want to see what he's going for a third pitch and and if it's a pitch that he can get guys out on because it becomes predictable the fastball and change up it could get kind of tough form it's numbers in AAA

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not good this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Triple A, they were not good last year is the PCL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, PCI don't even know if they really call it the Pacific coast league anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but and that's known as a hitters league and, you know, you've got places like Reno here where I'm at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you've got high altitude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you've got a lot of ball parks that play small.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that league, but his strikeout rate has gone from twenty percent last year to twenty one percent this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How does that translate to the bigs?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, his first start is against the fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's got a face in a triple eighteen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, not to knock the pirates and I laugh and you know, they're probably going to hit the crap out of the ball tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, there's kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: no better time to get them up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's probably what the time is all about, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got a home game, home night game, or it's been a little bit chilly in San Francisco lately against the pirates who are a bad hitting baseball team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm looking to see maybe four or five strong from him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Four innings, I see eight, nine, ten strikeouts, couple of walks and hopefully no more than two runs in that amount of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A nice showing in his first inning would be great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Giants face a Pittsburgh Pirates team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is a pirate's team I should really whip on because the pirates are thirteen and thirty seven away from their home park actually a halfway decent home team you know it's fun is the entire nl central uh... every team in in the nl central is uh... an above average home team you look at the nl west and you have the diamond backs and then the rock is a fourteen and thirty eight yeah which is just

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[SPEAKER_00]: What a disgrace.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're just going to put up a historically bad season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, just wait until the season is over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the record books are going to be rewritten for bad baseball teams by the Colorado Rock is this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They still draw a lot of people.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't been there haven't been a course field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you watch course field on TV, that's a place I want to be and I would love to go there by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah, I was on MLB Reddit, um, subreddit the other day and people were talking about like, how are the Rockies drawing more people than, you know, they're like in dead center in terms of attendance and somebody said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you have you seen that they have like five dollar gigantic goods cans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can go grab a five dollar gigantic beer sit watch the sunset in the summer at course field and just watch baseball you watch the other teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean we used to when we were growing up we would go to Oakland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, the Colosseum was a dumb, but yeah, I'd go in the eighties because I wanted to see George bread and Wade Boggs and White Evans and, you know, Joe Carter, that's why I went to the ace games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wasn't an ace fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even though the ace had some great teams and you'd go there and you got to say, come acquire and land for you and everything else, I was going to watch all the other teams and I think it was like two dollar beers or something like that too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't get off on a tangent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where did I go?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about terrible Rockies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So one other thing, and let's talk a little bit about Bird Song, because I think we were high on Bird Song when he first came into the rotation, we're like, hey, this kid, he goes right at the hitters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He throws hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, just looks the part and we were kind of figuring like, oh, you know, who would you rather have him or Harrison in these in these spots?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he just had a wall like I still don't even know what happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I haven't really seen anybody

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[SPEAKER_00]: talk about why, like why did he all of a sudden just hit this wall where he can't throw a strike and he's walking three guys in a row and like it was like it's just weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, did he just turn into, you know, nuclear loose?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what happened?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Million dollar arm stand head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just it's pitching as such psychology, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you have a situation like that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you have a situation like Kyle Harrison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, personally, I start to think about coaching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I go, do we have the guys to bring to psychologically bring our guys out of this Camilo Doval as gone through it too?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we have the pitching staff to psychologically bring these guys out of it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know JP Martinez is really highly, highly thought of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm going to say, yeah, they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just an unfortunate situation where it's happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: three times on a staff now where you've got, you know, Kyle Harrison, falters, doval falters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to throw Ryan Walker in there too, falters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're trying to bring these guys out of it and then birds song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's it's tough to watch as a giant's fan because.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, pitching is going to have ups and downs, but you don't think the downs are going to look like they've looked like for us over the last season with Walker Dovell and now birds song.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, those are down downs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those aren't like, you know, like web right now is having a tough time, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we know web.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know he's going to pull out of it and he's going to have three or four starts in a row where you're like, this guy is like, at L.C.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Young Award winner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen him struggle in the summer sometimes here in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's disheartening because we really like birdsong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know what he is when he's on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's dirty nasty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he can easily be your number three guy in the rotation without a problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I had to say to see it, I'll be gets right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and again, it is that young pitching when you have two guys at the back end of your rotation who have never thrown, you know, more than a hundred innings in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bigly career like it's tough to ask that of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think we also probably expected of Orlando to pitch a little bit better than he has, though he didn't finally get his first win of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, we'll just say it's growing pains.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, like you said, they're young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you just reminded me again, these guys are young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we knew that going into this season that they're young and they hadn't pitched that much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you just have to chalk it up to growing pains and how do you fight through it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're going to come out on the other end better for it, especially J.P.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Martinez and his staff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's just, you know, let's look at the end of the rainbow, the bright side of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Were there any in this like really bad

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[SPEAKER_00]: just stretch of baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So obviously the losses to the meds, those losses to the blue jays that we talked about last week, just coming out at the break, just seemingly, I mean, I can't, I can't measure the inspiration of the team, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is these, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a long season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for whatever reason, you know, they just have not played well or consistently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen any sort of possible positivity things that you've liked during this recent play?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure, there's been a couple of young who games, but then there's been another young who games where

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[SPEAKER_00]: like he tries to bond like on the basis for loaded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Stuff like that was rough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm just trying to think, I guess, you know, Chappy had a really good game yesterday, but yeah, even though, you know, he has big hits like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is a little bit inconsistent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We looked up Devours as numbers as a as a giant and they're not great at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just trying to look for something that might be a sign, just something, you know, a side of positivity or anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I can find it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, you know, in Atlanta, they go back to back games, right, where they score nine runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you're looking at that and you're just reminded like, okay, I mean, this team,

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[SPEAKER_01]: When they're yelling and they're getting on base and moving guys along and getting the big hits, this is a high scoring team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they can live that way, but they can't live that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not who they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we thought, beginning this season, this team is gonna be faster and more athletic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we heard, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're definitely not faster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They trade for divers and they're not faster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Definitely not more athletic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think the positives of this are we saw with the pitching staff was the starting pitching staff at the beginning of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We kind of know who they can be when when web and ray are on for lander.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, should you have more than one win?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He probably should have four or five wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: there were some blown saves for him there were games where he pitched really well in the offense didn't score any runs for him they go on to win the game but he's already out of the game at that point so yeah I again the positives I see are those are those two games in Atlanta

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that enough to give to say, hey, we're gonna be all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's definitely not enough to put it in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what did I say in the chat?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, can we save some of these like, we just score five and let's save the other four and spread them out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they go one run, one run, and then three runs in the Met series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If this team score four,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to do the gambling thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If this team scored four point five runs a night, this is a, you know, probably a twelve thirteen, maybe fifteen game above five hundred bulk club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is you can't have a game like last night on Sunday night baseball where Matt Chapman hits two home runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: take the lead and you had take the lead and then you lose five to three because because that's your offense, you can't do anything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the game that Devers hit to home runs, they scored nine runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody else was doing things, you know, driving and runs and home runs, doing different things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what you need.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have one guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have one guy be the hero every night on offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, I mean, that's draining, absolutely draining for the dugout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to be able to say,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got the bases loaded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know we're probably going to get two runs out of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But us as fans were sitting or watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We get the bases loaded with nobody out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We go, we're going to be lucky if we get one damn run out of this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's kind of where we're at right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's getting tougher and tougher to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And think that when the bases are loaded, we're in a good position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You should feel this is baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You should feel bases loaded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're in a good position, but we don't feel that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not not to, you know, not to be so negative on divers, but what did you think of his adventure there at first base the other day?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was pretty rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had the one play where he kicked the ball and basically threw it to himself at first base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, well, he got the out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're good there, but then later on, I mean, it's, you know, his adventures at first base, just make you look and go, can we get Bryce Eldridge up soon?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause even if you got, so Bryce Eldridge hit in the crap of the ball was get four home runs in the last six games, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he still only hit in two sixty one on the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a strikeout rate of like thirty percent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's pretty high.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can play first base and they're still working on him playing first base, but he's got way more experience of first base than Devers does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think if he was, if he had more reps and they trusted him at first base, I think he'd actually already be up by now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think that's the only thing that stops him is just they don't trust him yet and you can't have he and Devers both non playable in the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe Devers is the test.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They put him out there and they see what Devers is doing and they're like, okay, yeah, we trust him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's make the change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I want to see more JT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's have JT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hire JT.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, JT probably has like another job and is probably a really successful, but let's probably chilling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He probably owns a car dealership.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do after they retire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's put him in a uniform.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's hire a new coach and his entire job is just to shadow Bryce Eldridge and like

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[SPEAKER_00]: like every day he's like Bryce Eldridge is just like hanging out and he's out in the big club and it's like think fast and he like throws a one-half of them and he's got it like field it you know like like let's let's how do we

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do we increase the speed in which price eldritch can be a major league first basically?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because at this point, like we were just saying about the pitching, it is very young and to expect them to all of a sudden be able to help a team and a penit race like maybe, but more than likely not just because of what we talked about of them not really having thrown too many innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same thing with eldritch, and if we're okay with the growing pains as you suggested,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Might as well throw him up here because he's already at AAA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The pitching in the ball parks, we've heard all the things about your best prospects or in AA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just, he's just in AAA to get reps off of guys who may be a little bit more advanced with their stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would be fine with bringing them up just because now the one thing you don't want to, you know, this whole start to clock thing that we dealt with, you know, for over the years, there's that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, we had fans don't care about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buster, Pozy and company may care about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I almost look at it as like if the giants

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[SPEAKER_00]: fall closer to five hundred and there are only two games above five hundred right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're kind of playing this season out in preparation for next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, might as well just throw the kid in there and let him get some of ABs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if he just struggles and he, you know, he's one for, you know, one for twenty five with thirteen strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then yeah, you can send him back down, but it'd be nice for him to get a little bit of a taste because I think the fans would like to see what he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll, they'll get some people at the park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, to go see his first couple games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, you know, they have a whole system of of how they do this and, you know, we're just looking for things that will excite us because the team is not that exciting right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the hard part too is we see Nick Kurt's doing what he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know a high a high power guy high power prospect first basement that the A's bring up and we're like well we got one of those guys to yeah can we bring them up but again Kurt's was older I mean I elder to still twenty years old

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's still striking out thirty percent of the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not going to get better in the majors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to get worse and fans are going to crap their pants if you're looking at a guy striking out forty percent of the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's only twenty two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but still, I mean, that's, that's a year and a half more in AAA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Think about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking at his minor league stats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He only played, okay, so now we're not comparing Kurt's to, to Eldridge, but he only had a hundred and fifty one minor league abies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's geez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, and I knew I didn't have a lot, but that's, that's not a lot, no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and actually, maybe less, a hundred and twenty five babies, maybe a little bit of a hundred and fifty one played appearances.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Andrew Elders has seven hundred and seventy nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing about Kurt's though is he just raked like hell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's seven twelve slugging.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can't keep a guy with seven twelve slugging down in the miners now to in comparison in AAA for ninety five right now for Eldridge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still I mean

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still feel like if we're going to see him this year, it's probably going to be September, September call up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still don't know if we're going to see him this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still, I still kind of think we'll see him in spring training next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot showcased, heavily big time with a huge chance to take that job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the, you know, the offseason might date, they may just, you know, have JT snow adopt him like that might be like, just, hey, adopt him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He hangs out with you all summer and you teach him teaching the bigs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You even teach him how to save little kid bat boys from getting plowed at home home plate, like all the good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was that show?

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[SPEAKER_00]: My two dads.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can get JT snow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you can get JT snow and will Clark to adopt him for the winter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you could do my two dads part two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, well, we'll flemming my the might not like that one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was brutal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was not nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk a little bit about the trade deadline stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So do you have a target out of all of these rumored guys that the giants may or may not be interested in?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there one that stands out to you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh, I can actually see this possibly happening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like Isaiah, kind of a, the giants need a second basement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Desperately, I think then they need much of anything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They need a starting picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bullpen, I still think they have guys in the monitors that can bring up and kind of plug in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I say a kind of full F, uh, Pittsburgh Pirates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another guy who's going to be in the yard for the next three days didn't, and didn't we make that, uh, didn't we make that Sanchez trade, um, twenty, what was that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty ten.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't I think you talk about Freddie, Freddie, Freddie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I won't keep wanting to say Jonathan, but those differences.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Different differences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Freddie Sanchez was playing that one with a little dirtyer than Freddie was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, he's playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he was playing for Pittsburgh, and they were in town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Giants made a trade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He picked up a stuff, walked from one clubhouse to the other clubhouse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hoping that happens with kinder, full of an image killer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that happens, we might have to give up quite a bit to get those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't looked though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if I think both of those guys are free agents next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it might not be too bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like Keller is controllable through twenty twenty eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to take a big name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's probably going to take a big name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure all of these teams are asking about Bryce Aldridge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I could see Bryce Eldridge being on the move if the deal is right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, if he wasn't in the Devere's trade, right now the Devere's trade, Devere's trade, his actual value was lower because of the money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not not to say that any player, like I don't think Buster looks at it as like any you know any player specific player is is off the trade market for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you know all of a sudden they're like, hey, you know, we got, um, oh, Tony, you know, we want elders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if something looks sexy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but but short of something that is like gigantic for them, he's probably not going to be on the move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you think about some of the players they already gave up on Tibbs who was in that trade with Harrison.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you traded two of your top five prospects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're top, actually the people that the one prospect is the kid who's in the, what is their rookie league called the Gonzalo?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it, is it, is it Gonzalo?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is his name?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I know you're talking about and I'll get his name here and I always forget.

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[SPEAKER_01]: low, low prospect names, but Joe's war day Joe's good solace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's in rookie ball, you know, they have the the two different the black and the orange team or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that kid is only seventeen years old, but he's already the number two prospect according to MLB dot com.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's he's the guy that people will even probably try to approach more so than elders, but I think unless you get

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[SPEAKER_00]: just just the top player available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there's not that many big names out there that I think are going to be traded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Devours was the name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so those guys are the ones that they kind of circle it and protect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you also have wisdom hunt who's hopefully going to be able to help the big club sooner than later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But after that, there's not a lot of big names for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As far as like you know the sexy prospect so they they're going to have to continue building that but if they gave you know if they traded any of the

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some of the six through fifteen names.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think fans would be that disappointed, but it's more so because those six through fifteen aren't seen as like typical top prospects like some of those other teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so let's talk about some other guys here because you mentioned Keller who comes up a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's also on some other teams trade trade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he's on everybody's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Merrill Kelly the interdivision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He would kind of fit in in that like verlander Robbie Ray position veteran arm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen Severino with the Metz and Cabrera with the Marlins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Any of those names kind of knock your socks off for pitching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Severino, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, I think that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Merrill Kelly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Merrill Kelly beats us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So getting him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is that addition?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, addition by subtraction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, doing two more wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we'll lose two less games just by him being on our team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, none of the starting pitching other than Keller really floats my boat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, there's there's going to be some names like, you know, I I was really liking Seth Lugo as but then the news broke last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He signed an extension and he's staying in Kansas City.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about him last year to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did, yeah, he was a guy that was his name was thrown around because he had a, you know, a year and a half of control basically at that point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then this year, he had a half a year of control and then he, he uped with the royals and was like, no, I'm gonna stick around here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He likes the barbecue, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so what about offensive players?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there an offensive player that they're, you know, their names kind of tied to the giant, you're like, oh, that would be kind of interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, kind of a Lefa, the guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Stephen Cuan, I think is a guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know, Ayohanos, Juarez is like the number one guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was Devers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was off the board.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it's far as he's going to get traded Detroit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's going to make that's what I'm hearing lately is that he's going to Detroit's going to make a massive move for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Detroit's going to go on all in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of exciting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they've got a good team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See, and that's the thing that giants aren't like a missing piece or a player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going out and training for a player that's going to just, you know, bolster our team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to trade for players that are actually going to make a gigantic difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we have to get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So does a guy like Stephen Kwon make a gigantic difference?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's hitting over three hundred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a three hundred hitter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a lot of power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Godspeed plays fantastic defense and his Bay Area guy, which is kind of an added bonus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that doesn't matter when you're trading for players, but what he flourish being in San Francisco when he grew up in the South Bay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, that's quite possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But those are kind of the guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see you've got Josh Bell on the list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't it's another first base, DH guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, kind of full of Stephen Quant really make the most sense for the giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How much would Quant?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How much would Quant mean in traits going back though?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's already a multi-time all-star, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's still got years on his deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine the Guardians pretty much go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like he's if we were even thinking about it, like Elcher just got to be involved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so because he's not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think he's worth an elderidge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kind of falling off a little bit this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His second half last year was not very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I don't know because of the lack of power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if you have to give up power to get no power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would assume you probably go like a front line

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[SPEAKER_01]: Prospect pitcher that the Giants have and maybe even like, you know, if you're also making a move for kind of full effort, maybe a Casey Schmidt goes that way too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they have that eye on him as being like, you know, hey, he could be a middle infidel, middle infielder of the future for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Jose Ramirez isn't gonna play third base forever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe they see something in the Casey Schmidt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Things are going to get creative, but I don't see Stephen Kwan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or kind of left a, you know, really commanding a guy like Bryce Eldridge just because of Bryce Eldridge's massive power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Kwan avoided arbitration this year by signing a one year deal for four, four point, almost four point two million.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's got two more Arab years left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So his twenty eight and twenty nine year old season and then he is a free agent in twenty twenty eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is currently hitting in the two eighties ish with, yeah, like you said, not a lot of power, two eighty five with nine jacks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I'm down with the, with the two thirds of the outfield being Asian though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But but you kind of wonder like his profile fits a little closer to junk who these profile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you would want to though he's got more pop than junk who I don't think junk who has nine home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they would play a little bit more small ball with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, no, I dig it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like him as a player, but he's not going to be the, you know, I mean, he doesn't have to be that sexy powerheader of divers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, because it is that which which he hasn't been yet, but he's a good baseball player who could probably help you win some small games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and also the fact that, you know, a domus is becoming that guy as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if a domus is becoming that guy and and devours continues, you know, to kind of get better and and we start to see the power more and Chapman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: getting healthy, you know, had a lot of stuff going on the first half of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he's getting healthy as well, and you got those three guys, and then at some point, Eldridge does come up in like September, he got a lot of power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to have guys on base because I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to hit solo home runs and that's not going to do anything for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So having guys on base and guys that can scoot around the bases as well, I mean, that's huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So having guys like kind of full of a and a quant in the lineup and then, you know, I know JJ, your son will be happy to never see you as again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that happened, he'd be very excited about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the guy who's been a little bit of a target for us in our chats lately has been Elliott, almost because this poor defense, but he would probably have to be a guy going back in a quantrade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but he also has so his his years are he's got arbitration one super two one estimate for next year and then twenty seven are to twenty eight are three twenty nine are for so you would even have more control

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[SPEAKER_00]: with ramos than you would with quann the judge about to pay more for quann in the next few years, but so that would actually be I think a lot of Giants fans would be okay with that trade off like I think ramos is is is a nice player, but his defensive inefficiency has been very noticeable this year and he hasn't hit as well to kind of offset that like he did last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's kind of, he's kind of chilly Davis-esque without the, without the glove, a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but here's some news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of interesting that just came out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just talking about A.U.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hanios Suarez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this will be in the news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure a lot tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Tigers are gonna make a run form.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Diamondbacks are playing the Tigers tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got hit in the hand by their closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And had to leave the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So a Tigers, Tigers closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: hit swars in the hand at ninety five miles an hour and he had to leave the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not that's not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder what the clubhouse is going to be like after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the Tigers won the game five one, but I'm sure they're all looking at will this like come on to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, if you were to make a guess, if you were to hedge your bet, does Buster make

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[SPEAKER_00]: A small move, a medium move, or no moves, because I don't think we expect him to make a giant move, because he already did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He made his big move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I fully expect medium moves, like maybe two or medium move and small move, but I expect not a move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't talked about it, but Doval has been brought up as a guy possibly being traded out of the giants out of San Francisco and then bringing back another reliever, you know, from somewhere else in another trade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, Doval, I mean, what, maybe do Doval and Ramos,

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[SPEAKER_01]: for Kwan because again, Cleveland lost another reliever today in manual class A due to the bedding scandal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, class A's in that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so he was suspended for the next month as last or investigating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and that was announced today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now their closer is Kate Smith.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could use relievers basically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, are they fighting for a spot this year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably not, but if you got devolved for control over the next couple of years, you can part ways with class A and it won't hurt as much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The devolved got two more arbears, but he is making about almost almost he actually makes a little bit more than Steve Quandas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he does.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can send him and and ramos there and get quon and maybe a, you know, low level prospect or something like that, a pitching prospect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I whatever happens, I kind of almost guarantee you, I think Buster is going to bring back some pitching prospects, some some starting pitching prospects at some point, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I would consider.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they were able to trade for him, I would consider that as semi big move, just because he's he's a two time monster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah, you know, trading for all stars, that would be pretty big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think if they do make deals, I think those deals will be

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[SPEAKER_00]: more so for the this year and the future and if they make any deals that are kind of based on okay can we get a little bit closer to this wild card they're probably going to be guys on one year deals who they don't have to worry about bringing back next year so that it'll be interesting to see how buster attacks this his first ever trade deadline so and there's there's also jaren to ran from there I mean so there's two guys you got wanted to run

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think ESPN has quantit number five, Duranit number six, but they've got quant tied to San Diego and Los Angeles, but they've got Duran tied to us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, that's, you know, and San Diego and you know, a couple other teams, but still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, either one of those guys, I think I'd be super excited to have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't put, put it past Buster to,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have something like that in his back pocket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have to be pretty excited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, Duran's got a club.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um.

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[SPEAKER_00]: option for next year for eight million and then he's got two more arbears before free agency though he's already this year is just year twenty eight so yeah age season twenty eight all right so let's end this show by something that we're going to say we're going to try and figure this out if this if this works or not and uh you know kind of I was interested in doing a this week in giants history kind of thing and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at the nineteen eighty seven giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the nineteen eighty seven giants very near and dear to our hearts as baseball fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the team where we were like, oh my gosh, are we actually going to make the playoffs?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we actually a good baseball team?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are we seeing this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you remember,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They made a trade that season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They fell five and a half games behind Cincinnati on the fourth of July of nineteen eighty seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And general manager Al Rose and decided to acquire Kevin Mitchell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dave Jervekky and Craig Lefferts from the Padres.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You also added over the next part of July, Rick Rushwell and Don Robinson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he added five legitimate value players to that team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in nineteen eighty seven now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buster has not added, you know, all of these different players, but he was adding those players to a team of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Will Clark and Robbie Thompson and Jose Urebe and Jeffrey Leonard and chili Davis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Candy Maldonado.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mike Cruko and such and so the Giants did not initially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: play all that well from that day forward.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they make that trade July fifth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The giants are forty and forty five and a half games back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They go on a little bit of a nice winning streak, but then they hit a little bit of a wall, and by July, twenty-fourth, or, sorry, July, twenty-second, which was a Wednesday, their one game under five hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they head into St.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Louis on July, twenty-fourth, and they sweep the cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by sweeping the cardinals, they get within two games, or no, sorry, one game of the reds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they would kind of play back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they would then go on a run in like the last week of August.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would finally get on a win streak and kind of pull away to win the division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that time frame August, twenty fourth, or sorry, July, twenty fourth is when they showed that they could play with St.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Louis would be the team that would actually beat us for the nationally pennant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of a nice look back where I was like, oh, in nineteen eighty seven, they made, you know, that coming off of you got to like these kids, the nineteen eighty six team that we grew up on were like, oh, Thompson and Clark and all these young players and Matt Williams is coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that you know that's kind of how we view this year's team with you know some of the young pitching maybe maybe more so than the young bats elderge coming up but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was interesting that in eighty seven because my memory of eighty seven was that they were a good team for most that year but they were kind of average like the giants are right now for most of that year and then they go in this run in August and they pull away and they really make their mark so all of that to say is

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can tinker with the team and add a couple of players that are beneficial, who is to say that they cannot go on a bit of a run because they haven't really been hot since like you said since the beginning of the season, they've just been fifty fifty or less since then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that is actually something that, you know, when you change up some of the players, you can kind of create a little bit of energy for the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that

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[SPEAKER_00]: That could happen if Buster does find the right deals or the flip side of that would be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We like what we got.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've invested in Chapman and Adamus and Junhu.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got this young pitching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got Robbie Ray for another season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to play it close to the vest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're going to let some of these younger players fight their way through and we're setting up for next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That could also be the place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just thought that nineteen eighty seven team was kind of an interesting comparison to what they have right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in two thousand nine, even.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you kind of see flashes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see like, okay, we got some young guys who can do some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was a little bit different because you had Pablo and you already had, you know, Pablo was showing his, his thing and, and, and showing that he could hit, but, you know, Lensacum was win in Sihang's and, and then, and then, and then you had these guys in the miners, you had a guy named Buster Posey and Matt Kane was on his way and, and,

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[SPEAKER_01]: bomb garner was on his way, so you kind of knew you had all these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This team doesn't quite have that, but they do have the fight and they do have a message you guys last night in the group, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Dodgers you're taking a dump everywhere on the field, but we can't do a damn thing about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just sitting back and taking our own dumps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're watching them do it and we're like, hey, well, let's do it too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's like, it's for the taking right now and San Diego's looking to and San Diego can't push.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So nobody's pushing ahead of the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just got a frustrated sit back and watch and it's like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know you can't score board watch and like, you know, and late July, but you kind of have to and look and say, look, we could pass these guys, man, but, you know, of course, I'm sure the Dodgers are going to make some moves, but yeah, I mean, this is, this is a team that has promised and we knew that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, five hundred club, five hundred club and then we knew

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like let's see what Buster can do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can he push us over five hundred?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or even if we finish five hundred, can we see some improvements to the roster, to the minor leagues, to the farm system?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what the next couple of days are going to show us, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does he add to the farm system?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What does he do to make this club

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[SPEAKER_01]: better after the trade deadline, whether it's by subtraction or addition.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I'm excited to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's end this show with a little bit of sad news, the passing of Ryan Sandberg, who we got to see, like his entire career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I'm

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a tough one because, you know, nineteen eighty four that cubs season that at very special cubs season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They lose to the pod rates, but I got to watch a lot of cubs baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For one reason and one reason only, which is we had the WGN network.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I would come home from school, that because the cubs only played day games,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would get just pretty much see like the eighth of the night inning every get every day like just go turn on wgin you get to see get to see the end of the game you can see least myth come in and close and you know they're not that they were never a favorite team of mine but I want because of how I was able to watch them I actually watched

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[SPEAKER_00]: Almost as much cubs games as I did giant skins because if you remember back in the day when we were younger, you only got to watch the giant's road games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they were at home, they were blocked out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to read from the website, the marquee sports network website.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in January of twenty twenty four sandberg announced he'd been diagnosed with metastatic prostate cancer seven months later he announced that his cancer was in remission but then said in December of twenty twenty four that it had returned so it was in remission but it had returned very quickly

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we are assuming that that is the reason for his passing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He provided a health update this month sharing his treatment plan and thanking fans for their support.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So really, really sad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's only sixty five years old and man, what Hall of Famer, you know, Dwayne Kieper used to joke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because Ryan Sandberg used to get all these gold gloves.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He would say that Ryan Sandberg has to dive for balls that Robby Thompson would get to on his feet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just that Robby Thompson had so much more range and sometimes more range you're making more errors because you can get to more baseballs exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why he's always take that with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, ah, you know, Samburg is, yeah, Samburg's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a whole of favor, but, you know, Robbie Thompson was probably the better defender.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just would have more errors because he gets more baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, we kind of saw the next generation of Samburg with, with Kent, because Kent was that power hitting second baseman who we own, we really kind of saw with Sambury that right hand in that big right handed hitter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know probably would have in in today's baseball may not even have played second base may have been at third or may have played some first, but yeah, it's so sad to hear about right Hamburg so unfortunate and man losing losing some good ones man

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just one of the all-time greats of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember being at the eighty-nine game five, eighty-nine NLCS game five, Giants Cubs, Candlestick Park.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that was just, you know, probably last time I saw Ransanburg play in person, but just, I mean, just larger than life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when you talk about the Hall of Fame, that's the type of player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that gets in and all of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The guys ten time all star won the MVP in nineteen eighty four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um that it like you talked about that eighty four team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a weird set in nineteen eighty four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hit nineteen triples.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nineteen triples.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think most guys would be happy to get ten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but to almost double that in triples for a guy who's a home run hitter and he hadn't quite been a home run hitter yet at that point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: But still forty-hone runs in nineteen ninety I got was just a four so rest in peace Ryan man right now

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a bummer to end the show on a note like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he had to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had ties to the giant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that that whole eighty nine NLCS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he, he, he, he, he, because will Clark, I mean, Ryan Sandberg and the NLCS in nineteen eighty nine, had a monster series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only guy who had a better series was Will Clark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And those two guys were great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Grace was really good in that series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Grace was going to, that's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Grace was going to not series two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, it was just, it was just a crazy, crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, Ryan Tanberg has a lot of ties to this giant's club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's end it there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll have our eyes on the Thursday trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See, plus your ads.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need more pieces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk all about it next Monday on this very show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for Brad, I am double G. We will see you when we see you piece out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.