Valkyries are Surging + Veronica Burton for MIP | Valks Valley

Hosts Garrett Gonzales and Brian Gonzales dive into the recent surge of the Golden State Valkyries, who now hold the 7th spot in the WNBA playoff race after three consecutive victories. They break down the strong cases for Veronica Burton as a contender for Most Improved Player, and the stellar play of Cecilia Zandalasini, who has been on fire. The hosts also analyze head coach Natalie Nakase's decision to shorten the roster rotation at this critical point in the season and what it means for the team's playoff push.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're back on Valks Valley.
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[SPEAKER_01]: How many more podcasts are we going to do under this banner under this Valks Valley banner before we change the branding?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it revealed it, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe maybe I'd wonder too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I didn't say what it was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we have to talk about the biggest story in Valkyries land right now, which is the Violet the mascot who hatched out of the egg.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not the biggest story, but it's a nice little lead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One, I like the idea.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did they have to make the mascot have bad eyesight?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's my main question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, I thought they may have leaned a little young, but maybe a lot of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: fandom, you know, is maybe a little bit, you know, a little bit older.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe that's what they lean to, but what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Why did this wide and violent have to have glasses?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's mine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, as someone who's needed glasses since the third grade, and I imagine you've needed glasses for the majority of your life.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're both wearing contacts.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can violent wear some contacts?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Your genetics have given bad eyesight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm for the glasses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels, I feel represented as a member of the bad eyesight community that violence.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have been cool glasses.
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[SPEAKER_01]: did they have to be like on the tip of the nose like grandma glasses.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's violent kind of reminds me of, and it's not, it's not a great, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She kind of reminds me of like the the Chuckie cheese mascots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like the big bird and like Chuckie, and then also like the McDonald's, like mascots they have when they did the whole, I don't know, how caught in the pop culture you are, but there was the grimace shake.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Take over like a year or two ago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She kind of feels like Violet fits in and one of those parties that she could just you could just throw her into the Chucky Cheese thing and and she'd fit right in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So far, almost everything about the Valkyrie's branding, Valkyhoops who's checking in said that they said that she's nearsighted.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything has been very, I think very well marketed, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the colors and the logo and ball hauler.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like all of that stuff is very, very smart.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't dislike Violet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually like the idea of a mascot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That the I don't I don't think it's necessarily uncool, but it's not like the coolest, you know, in that sense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know, it may take a little while for me to get used to, but I just sense like
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[SPEAKER_01]: young, but then again, you know, this audience is the people who are in attendance are not just little kids.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's all family.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe that's what they were leaning to as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, are you familiar with Ellie the elephant for the New York Liberty?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like she's kind of the, like the target for whatever team wants in a mascot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I can almost guarantee that the Valkyries were like, how do we make our own Ellie the elephant?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it's not like any normal mascot where like you have
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, the giants, or I'm just trying to think of like the warriors and I'm gonna have one anymore, but just like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's his name again, Louis, Louis, the seal or something?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Louis the seal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so sorry.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Louis, Louis seal, Louis seal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's fun out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he throws stuff around, but like Ellie like gets in it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's got some like sass girl boss to the to the mascot that I feel like that should be like the target for like every type of mascot to like it's not necessarily the character that you see in front of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like the attitude and personality that the mascot has.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I don't think that the
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[SPEAKER_00]: the visual representation of the mascot matters as much as, you know, the personality.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it feels like they're already kind of leaning into sort of like the Ellie, and I'm not familiar with the rest of the WMBA mascots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If they're all are kind of like, you know, like Ellie, but so I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just have to, we just have to wait and see, man, maybe a violence up there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But who was the player who was like trying to get Violet to shoot a layup and Violet couldn't make Quentin post, man?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The other Pods duty, where the hell has Pods been?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You see the jokes that they're saying the like Pods is gonna come out the egg?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that would have been amazing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Violet is a nice little cool.
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[SPEAKER_01]: thing, and I'm sure there will be violet dolls and violet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And everything, so it'll be, they'll do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, this, this organization has been first class so far.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So what are we really going to talk about?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Valkyries are on a three game winning streak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the last time we chatted was right before the sparks game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were sitting there tied for eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, OK.
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[SPEAKER_01]: host Kayle Thornton are the voucher he's going to take step forward or they're going to take a step backward and if they took a step backward it's completely like predictable and fine because they are an expansion team you give them that grace.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were like, nope, we are just going to make Kelsey Plum's life hell.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's going to be so mad that she's going to kick people on the court.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they locked her down.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She had a bad game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure she would say it was more her than the defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought the defense laid really well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They figured out who they needed to stop.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They stopped her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they went on to beat the Connecticut sun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then last night beat the mystics kind of let the mystics come back a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They were up thirty six to twelve in the second quarter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Mystics got within three I believe in the fourth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was the closest that they would get.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bakery still finished off the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a little warriorsy by the way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of reminded me of like the warrior season.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but they still got it done.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So three wins in a row.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They are in a seventh, actually, not even an eighth in the playoff race.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know that you're kind of wondering if they could even get to six, can they pass the fever?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's, I think it's very possible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just looking at it, the fever are eighteen and fifteen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Valkyries are seventeen and fifteen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Valkyries have Chicago sky next.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Chicago's one and nine in their last ten.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Three game losing streak.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Angel really hurt, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe, I believe the Indiana fever have the Washington mystic in their next game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I still don't know Caitlyn's timeline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do we know when Caitlyn's coming back?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, of course, that all like kind of hinges on that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think because of the uncertainty in our injury status, I think that the Velcro is could could definitely pass them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I will, you know, where we said last week that it kind of feels like Western competency for the, uh, for the NBA where everything's within a couple of games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, um, last week it felt like it's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, can you just hold off?
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[SPEAKER_00]: LA, like can you just hold the eight seed and hold them off?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now, you know, they're in the seventh seed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Seattle dropped to eight LA still nine.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, well, now can you pass Indiana at six and it's not necessarily worrying as much about the teams below them, although they are, but in my head, that's kind of how I'm seeing it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I've been I've been wrong about this team a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not afraid to admit it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that it would be bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that, you know, Kayla going down would force them to miss the playoffs and have L.A.
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[SPEAKER_00]: jump in and while that's all still possible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The one thing I have been right about is is Chili is in the Lucini kind of taking the step here and in the absence of Kayla Thornton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like has been able to make her shine offensively.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we kind of have to see if that keeps up because she's just a sharp shooter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like all the wheels are kind of clicking and then going right now like you talk about Kelsey Plum having a bad game like yes, she did but if you watch some of those possessions against Veronica Burton, she's just clamping her like Veronica is just like just taking over the the guard Kayla Thornton defensive player role and Veronica's already a great defender within herself, but I kind of feel like she got
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[SPEAKER_00]: To me, overshadowed a little bit by Caleb, but now Caleb going down, it's like, oh, wait, Veronica's kind of an all defensive caliber defender as well, especially, of course, against the guards.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's mainly who our assignment is, but, you know, getting matched up against Citron and then getting matched up against Kelsey before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, Chicago, she probably gets thrown on aerial atkins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I think all Kudos to Veronica for this push as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, so do you think she's going to be in the running for most improved?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I check the odds and I believe she's top three and above her as are a Stevens from the sparks and I believe it's Allisha Gray from both of those folks in the mix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I, I don't know, I feel like the MIP is always like a one where like, do you look at just like stat to stat or do you kind of, and there has to be context at at some point, because you know, in the NBA, it's just like what top rookie, not rookie, but like what top, you know, top five, top ten rookie in their third year kind of makes like the expected jump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember that year where it's like Jordan pool was in his second or third year and it looked like after JPE's first rookie season, I was like, oh my god, this guy,
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[SPEAKER_00]: needs to get set.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He got sent down to Santa Cruz like it just just did not look good for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he comes into the rotation is is a big reason why they go on the push.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm forget I might have been the championship year even, but I think John Morant wanted that year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like dude.
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[SPEAKER_00]: John Morant was the number two pick and looking like an all star in her second year in his third year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to just give it to him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've wondered what that is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I'm not as aware of the previous winners of the MIP in the WMBA, but just thinking of Alisha Gray, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: three time all star like I don't know maybe more than three, but I know back to back to back now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's been all star and I believe she went from fifteen points for game to nineteen to now at seventeen and then as are a Stevens has had a little bit of a jump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I could just pull the numbers right now, but it's clear that Veronica is just jumped in every statistical category, but that's also because she went from twelve minutes per game to twenty eight minutes per game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I has a crazy jump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you go from getting cut to being a starting point guard on a
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[SPEAKER_00]: possible playoff to yeah like she was six woman seventh woman on on on on on Connecticut last year and then boom just right to starting point guard and you know I feel like with context here like you may be you're wondering is Veronica burden like fringe WMBA player that kind of gets caught like a julie van Lou
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, does she have a long standing position in this league?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like if this year said anything, it's like, okay, well, she's gonna have a long career in the W. Like at worst, she's a, you know, the backup point garden.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a really good backup point garden.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Valkyries have her partial rights for next year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can almost, I know everything is like in the questionable, because if everyone's contract status and maybe the Valkyries make a big splash in who they get, but I feel like I could almost guarantee that she's gonna be the starting point grade for this team next year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's not for sure guaranteed right like going into this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, I'm not sure if you, you know, she was unprotected by Connecticut like, you know, but now you've been talking to Kent Lakeups and see left the Warriors organization or something getting some hasn't inside juice haven't made contact.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I, I just, you know, you know me, she's my favorite player to watch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I just love her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dogginess.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I love her willingness to, I mean, she's picking herself up off the floor.
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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of this, a lot of the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's created a shot that doesn't seem like it should work like this little weird kind of step back, push three pointer that she's been able to hit just all the things that you look for in like a
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[SPEAKER_01]: a hardworking point guard she she believe and and look I think she's talented but she's not the most talented with the ball just those talented shooters and the most talented score but she puts things together.
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[SPEAKER_01]: In a nice little nice little stew and I think it works out for her yeah Valkyhoops was like yeah when when Kelsey plumped tripter that was just mere frustration that was like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This girl's locking me up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to take my frustration out on her.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's funny.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Kelsey Plum reminds me of a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, I just, I just started watching the day and a Terrasi.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The, the Terrasi documentary on Amazon Prime.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really good, by the way, but day and a Terrasi like historically her personality is kind of like
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's she's not there to say what you want her to say or to show this personality that's like, uh huh, you know, like, oh, I'm not she's like, no, she's like legit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She speaks to her truth.
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[SPEAKER_01]: she doesn't come across as like this like created person like you can you see in media today in sports media and that is something to entourage he would have done just out of mere frustration you know kick out kick out their leg because like why not like I'm so frustrated or
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dive for steel and take out somebody's legs like that like data trazius me plays like that and that's what that Kelsey Plum thing reminded me of is like so mad and so competitive that you probably do something that you regret later on hopefully she reached out to Veronica after the game was like that was my bad like that was just mere frustration Jackness is usually don't so I don't I don't know but like I know that by the way big fan of Kelsey Plum but
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that I've heard like, you know, you have your welcome to the W moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There was also like your like Diana, welcome to the W moment.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like a different thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what was your first encounter with Diana?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, did she hit you hard coming off a screen or something like that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, did you get an elbow to the side?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, but just she was going to let you know that she was there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, really quick though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let me just do this in like ten seconds.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, I don't know how much this factors into things just because of the complete minutes jump from Veronica, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: three point one points per game last year eleven point two this year and then it's from eight twelve point seven minutes per game to twenty eight point eight so that's a big jump in minutes and of course points two like three to eleven and then just looking at as a ray she went from nine point six to fourteen point six well basically you know minutes was that then that was points and then minutes twenty four point seven to twenty eight point eight and then I'll use a have it here somewhere but I might have just a lot
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anyway, it was like a like a two point jump or something or like a four point jump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, but like the year before she was nineteen and then she went to fifteen and then to seventeen and somewhere in that mix of things, but I think it's clear from like the statistical category that Veronica has out jumped everyone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm a little surprised that she's third that doesn't even factor in the defensive stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm interested on how that awards going to play out because to me, I think Veronica just going from
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not even stats, but how you view them as a player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like already viewed Alicia's like one of the best three point shooters in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It consists in all star and then with Veronica I'm like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: was she on her way to be like a journey woman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now she's a solidified you want her on your team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that to me is just like a like a status jump for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Where's Rikia Jackson X?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know she was hurt, but again, your player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I test standpoint man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She looks like.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she looks like a go to score whereas last year she did not look like a go to score necessarily.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I only saw the top three, but I can't imagine them giving it to a second year player unless it was like a crazy jump.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Valkyrie's next four games, and this is where, you know, taking over Indiana might be a little harder than we think, because they do play Chicago on Friday, but then they play Atlanta who has left over the liberty to take over the number two spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... and then they got back to back games against the mercury who sit in the foreslot for the playoff's the Tuesday game uh... so basically sunday and Tuesday are at chase friday and then the next friday are away and i don't know antlana phynex and phynex do your next three games after that chicago game that's going to be tough what's the home away on uh... like so i know it's home against atlanta on sunday
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then home Tuesday at Phoenix on Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And looking at like Indiana, we got home against Washington at Connecticut, home against Minnesota at Minnesota.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got back to back Minnesota games home away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So very possible because we see Indiana again, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We see them on August, thirty first, presumably Caitlin's back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe that's at Ball Halla.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now be the first game that she plays in San Francisco if she does play because she missed the first one, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think she did play in San Francisco.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does she think she missed the second?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she missed the second one when they were.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, we said last time they kind of have their numbers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Last week, you mentioned when we talked about who could possibly be the go-to players with Kayla gone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You mentioned Chetchi, Zandela Sini as a possibility.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she'd struggled.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when she was in the starting lineup, they actually had a losing record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And these last several games, she has shown out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The shot has always looked sweet, but it looks sweeter than ever because she's just, she's, she's heat checking in some of these games where she's like, I'm hot and this thing is going up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's been, she's been tremendous.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, some of it is because she's just so hot from three.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, that's where she's shooting the majority of her shots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think, you know, part of this, these last several games and, you know, winning, winning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the sparks were hot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I would consider them a good team because they were hot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's not like the sun and the mystics are world beaters, but still you got to beat who's in front of you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she has just absolutely came to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think about Xandal Sini?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of think it's a little bit of like finally getting some consistent games under her belt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if you remember to start Talbot and Xandal Sini were both out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Talbot came back in like game three or something or game four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Xandal Sini played until like
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, it felt like a while until she first played.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she goes the Euro basket and then comes back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you know, had that injury that was out for like three to four games recently or two to three games recently.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I almost think it's like consistency with the Valkyries under her belt to like get more comfortable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, Kayla going down has created the opportunity for her to start and to be a consistent starter and not have to worry about getting pooled and stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's like she's necessarily like change too much just outside of the fact that she's gotten to play consistently and she hasn't been hurt yeah she hasn't been hurt so yeah like it just looks like I do wonder what the defense of adjustments are when it comes to playing some of the better teams because like how does she get any space ever
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[SPEAKER_00]: just on catching shoots like why she ever wide open, like why are we not selling it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, the Valkyries do have like good three point shooters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Veronica's shooting like thirty eight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Tip, although it's felt like her three point percentage and maybe attempts have gone down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think she's still a respectable three point shooter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's still over forty percent as of last night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't think she made one last night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she maybe she only took one or two and I think she missed him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not that this changes anything, but I actually finished the game before we recorded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so of course it's fresh on my mind and I did notice that either the second or the third like I thought it was a little clear that Washington was forcing Temi to like make a pass and they were just stealing it like three turnovers on a row in the second or third quarter from Temi didn't come back into the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So a lot of it a repair minutes and then I forgot what they did to close it I wonder if they went small but
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... no i think iliana repair closed it but i i thought the group yet repair got a lot of run and i was actually surprised at her lack of chuck in it because there were moments where i thought she was gonna shoot it and she didn't she made the right pass and but you know i i i just thought when you have such a strong three-point shooter as a big like just the threat of her maybe maybe the threat of her just opens up the offense for them but i i want to see her pull the trigger even more than she did she did hit one in the corner
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yesterday, I think actually, I think it was maybe a Zandalist scene, he swings, Zandalist scene, he drew the entire team and threw it to the corner for Rupert.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't really, without Kayla, they don't really play small though, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you think of a lineup of them where they're not playing Janelle at center?
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[SPEAKER_00]: and just run it like they they haven't at least one big on the floor pretty much at all times I think I think you're right I mean did they do that when before repair came and Monique was healthy even then I feel like Monique was always at at least they had Monique yeah maybe maybe that's the you know she she's probably more four than five but
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's still.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She plays more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She plays like a big though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She may not be as big as she's like a Valkyrie is five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I mean, they have four centers under roster right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't see them going small.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything they go bigger.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so I think that I think they feel like they need to have somebody with some presence on the inside and all of the
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, a fact bend lays very athletic for her size.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like she's a slow big, you know, repairs not as athletic as fact bend lay, but she's ability to shoot so she stretches it in that way.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually going to look so by the way, Caitlin Clark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I could find on her was that she has not yet returned to full practice, but she has been doing full court running and on court movements.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the late center.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That doesn't sound like she's coming anywhere close to returning though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I feel like what is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's August, fourteenth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They plan the thirty first feels like she'll be there and and playing, but I guess that does, you know, the wonder here is how much longer she'll be out so that the fever will have to play without her, the velcro is my people to jump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know, but kind of just an extra point back to how the factories play with like size or not, like they are playing against Atlanta on Sunday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe in both iterations of the starting lineup and the two games they've played against Atlanta, it was
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[SPEAKER_00]: Monique at the four, tell me at the five, so they started with double big and it's probably depending on who's healthy for Atlanta because Atlanta goes, Bree Jones and Brittany Griner, they just match it with double big and they say our bigs can run faster than yours.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I imagine it's a, it's a early repair at the four, tell me at the five to start that Atlanta game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Go, it goes of,
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[SPEAKER_01]: I know this is a soccer name and I'm going to screw it up and show my lack of soccer knowledge.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ghost of Geralight, Geralitis says, uh, wishing me here would get more minute.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's a runner.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you really wanted to go small and you know, you do like kind of the NBA two K gimmick where you put like a super fast player at center to be the other center down the court.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, uh, oh, yeah, it is a tennis name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Not not a soccer name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was I thinking?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they, uh,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the picture threw me off um you would put a me here at center and just say okay sprint down the court beat the five down and we get layups but she also is is very slim of of stature yeah i mean they have these bigs all their bigs are not the prototypical bigs that they're like either fast or can stretch like tell me like you said very athletic and run up and down and me here the same way run up and down repair shoot and then monique and run up and down too so
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I like their versatility of bigs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I do wonder about the Ami here, like another DMP last night, and the other times if it wasn't a DMP, it's the last two minutes we have this game secured.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're just like, you know, we have Timmy and Repair, we're just going to keep switching both of them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't, there hasn't been a need for, and maybe there will be a need for Ami here if you're going to start both bigs against Atlanta.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know we're skipping over the Chicago game here, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Come on, but let's take a look at the lineups of late because I we had a comment on the YouTube channel the other day and somebody said when Caitlin Chen plays the Valkyries win and so the other someone else had popped it and said like
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[SPEAKER_01]: like are you being serious or not or something like that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But it is kind of funny because Caitlin Chen is a serviceable backup point guard when you need minutes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But you would very much prefer Veronica be on the court instead of Caitlin.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at some point to the season, it was almost like Natalie
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[SPEAKER_01]: And Kase was going like, okay, we're going to get as many people on the court as possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the sparks game, she was like, we're playing this like a playoff and we're only playing eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that has been kind of the way that she's done it since that sparks game is almost like we have a real shot and making the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are preparing our team to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: like we're going to be in the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're shortening this rotation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've seen I've gotten a lot of data from all of all of the game footage.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we've seen a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've given everyone a chance to play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now here's what here's what the output is, which is we're going with our best eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I was actually shocked because I didn't expect it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was like, all right, she's going for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was actually really cool to see the rotation get shortened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if Natalie's told us anything this entire year, it's that she just wants to win and you know, doesn't care as much about what next year looks like or the year after, she's just like, I have what's in front of me and we're going to make it work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I almost wonder if the lack of Caitlyn minutes though has also kind of gone hand in hand with the way Carlos kind of changed and I only thought about this right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But like you think of some of the earlier in the season like Carla a little more sporadic like always getting into the free through line because she's just driving into the rim.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I kind of feel like we haven't seen a lot of that lately and I almost wonder if that's by design that she's kind of running the offense how Natalie wants her to.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's playing more like a point card for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think that when Carlos playing like the sporadic like just kind of out of control, but also like good chaos in a way, like then they were like, okay, we want to put you out there with Caitlyn because Caitlyn Chen's going to
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's gonna slow us down a little bit and and be like the the season vent out there even though she's just a rookie But yeah, Carla kind of changing that cuz I just thought about I haven't felt like we have seen that many like Carla just like dive to the rim where she just ends up like big player just like lands on her or just chucking threes as well
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[SPEAKER_00]: The threes have looked better like I know that percentage probably still isn't that great, but just if you pull post all star break I bet you it looks solid and it looks more believable like I'm instead of being like I know this one isn't going in and I kind of I do think that there's I'm like oh she actually might make this one and she has been so yeah Ghost says don't you risk injury by stressing eight
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you may a little bit, you still got, I'm sure Natalie is going to find pick and choose her spots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think at the end of that, the end of the Connecticut game, you did see some of the reserves get in.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yesterday, you did not, I think that was because Washington made a comeback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, they made a comeback.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you weren't able to, but at the same time, if you get Billings back,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you figure her into the rotation, and maybe it is nine instead of eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, if you have faith in your bench, like if you believe that if needed, Caitlyn can slot right in for Carla, if Carla was to get hurt.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then it's just sort of like next person up who's ready.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We have, we have these, these roles.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So Valky asked when when does Mo come back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the information that I saw was when she got hurt, which was about two weeks ago, they said she's going to be reevaluated in three weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So we're not even at the reevaluation standpoint for most.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't have the reevaluation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's probably at least another week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's going to miss several more games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the end, but look, Rupares getting more run, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Rupares figuring out, that's probably good that she's, you know, came in with Rupares recently, like, was it like the beginning of August?
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[SPEAKER_00]: She came, like, the August six or something that she's getting this opportunity to
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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of figure it out with this roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Similarly to how like I was saying, like, you know, Chetji just needed like games under her belt with this team to kind of figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's in a way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably good that repairs getting this extended run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, just, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So one of the things that I've been kind of paying attention to is I've last night Veronica Burton gets her career high.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She goes for thirty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Chetji also got her career high, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she goes wanting
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so what this does to me is it takes some pressure off of Janelle to be a score and Janelle can just play smart basketball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't sense that she was forcing a lot of stuff in these last, at least last couple games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I thought she was taking really smart shots and really good shots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And she wasn't getting the grenade at the end of the shot clock.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they didn't really have any of those problems of late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they will, especially like when they play someone like Atlanta because Atlanta is just going to rearrange their shot opportunities because they're so long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Janelle seems to be playing with a lot more confidence and maybe less like pressure to be like a go to score or like a clutch score and she's just letting the game like she's she's not even really taking the bad and not bad because she's tall so she can get these shots off but she's not taking the contested shots as much anymore and she's comfortable swinging it knowing that
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[SPEAKER_01]: her teammates are going to be able to hit open shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the thing that I've I've really liked about Janelle's game over the last week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I've actually have a tweet for this and I don't know if you guys follow Hunter Cruz on on X. Oh, I think Hunter's a Hunter's a must follow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to really get stuff right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hunter tweeted, since the all-star break, Golden State has completely flipped Genel Salon's shot diet.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Over the last ten game, she's up to two point four field goals attempted per game from zero to five feet, and that was at one point two pre-all-star, and then she's down to one point six field goals attempted per game from ten to nineteen feet, two point eight pre-all-star.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what kind of goes hand in hand with what you're saying, which is
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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe smarter shots doesn't get the grenade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's still some stuff where it's like yesterday, you know, she got an offensive rebound and it pulled her out to the left corner and immediately she takes like a little fade away, like long mid range and I was like, I don't know if that's the shot, but, you know, she's
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's great and I think just, you know, and I do critique her, but I am, like, she's probably, she's probably my favorite player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like watching, I like watching Carla, maybe the most Veronica to maybe to maybe the most, but I think Jenelle's like our, you know, just someone who I want on this team for a very, very long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She's definitely my favorite player on this current roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's just, you know, some of those long middies that feel forced.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I will say it's that's felt like it's gone down.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wonder if that's also because Chetch is taking some of that pressure off of hitting those shots.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they play well together.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't get that if, you know, this team is better with Caleb, but you don't get that if Caleb goes down as much those two kind of just playing together all the time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think it's a good fit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you spell Hunter Cruises, uh, Twitter name?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hunter has regularly spelt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Cruz is C-R-U-S-E, and then fourteen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The number fourteen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, there we go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hunter, Cruz, W-N-B-A, and Prospects getting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, I'm already following.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hunter, I will be asking Hunter to be on this podcast when it comes to draft time, and we can get Conorado back up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can have an all-star line up of guests for the draft.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hunter looks like a youngster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... hunter and uh... is also followed by conrata so that they may go stand before there for the battle all right so uh... is there anybody else on the team uh... that you kind of want to talk about you know their improvement or not or rotation or whatever and if not we can move on to kind of the last part of the show i think tips kind of driving kick has looked like
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it almost looks a little crazier than in the beginning of the season, but some of those passes she gets off are just like pretty incredible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think there was a few Kate Martin three pointers in that LA game that were just completely, you know, it was directly from a crazy tip driving kick.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know she was doing driving kicks earlier in the season as well, but I just feel like these are like, I just watch it and I'm just like, and all of like, you know, they always say the driving, like you jump passes aren't good, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the whole Tyre's Halibut and thing where he's like, no, jump passes are good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, your coach has always told you don't jump pass, but tips got it down, like almost like Alibut and doesn't in some in some ways.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of, yeah, who else is getting around?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Kate's kind of been a little bit of a consistent rotation player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That probably leads some Caitlyn's hand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Her job is literally just to sit in the corner and shoot threes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder like, it also made me think watching the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, just having you stay in that spot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know buckets.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know what, the other thing about you stay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: there's a new the you turn me on to a podcast called is called bounce.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they did an episode right after the opener.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the host said you stays full name as well and did not get it so she does not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't get it right either.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it is not just us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what what we're going to have to do is we're going to have to take the audio of you stay saying her own name with a good mic though.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're positive.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We just need, yeah, we need it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need her to say it correctly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, is it?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You'll see today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, no, but if you think about how you stay would fit into this offense, she would probably be doing a lot of the tip decision making where she would have the ball and she would kind of work the perimeter pass or shoot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if she would get to the hole as much as as tip gets to the hole.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And by the way, tips lefty like lab where she stretches out that arm.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks so pretty.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine it's going to fall a little bit more than it's been falling of late, but I love it when she goes so hard to her left.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just hanging right there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's going to be very important for her to get late buckets and in in in clutch games near the end season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Speaking of lefty, so is you stay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: She got lefties on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think at the very least, just like, I mean, we're not going to get into the next season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only last thing I'll say about use days, like I think at the start of the season, she'll be in like the Kate Martin role where, you know, maybe some inconsistent minutes, and but you just get to let catch you, why don't we're going to force herself into some, and I totally think so too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just thinking of like the start of the year, but like I think that's like, she's overqualified for that role.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Kate Martin's great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I know I said last podcast that she's probably, you know, the greatest expansion selection ever.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't mean that as like a diss.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of just meant it like she everyone, they still want her.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's better than what you can ask for and she's beloved.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's popular.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She seems like a really cool lady.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, she's not she's perfect in the role that she's at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's what the eighth eighth or ninth person on the team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She can hit an open shot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's going to try her hardest on defense and she doesn't seem to have an issue when Natalie's like, okay, like, we need to, you know, we need to take you out for whatever reason strategically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like, got it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm out and she's going to cheer for her team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she seems like
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[SPEAKER_01]: really the perfect teammate and as the league expands and as we bring into three more teams over the next couple years she's going to have a job like that's just it's just what it is she's going to be good people's on on somebody's bench so yeah um ghost says do we think she's going to be around in twenty twenty six probably not because she's probably going to get picked up in the expansion draft that would be my guess but I agree with you yeah so
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's get to some other things here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So actually, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk a little bit about the rest of the league here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What about those Las Vegas aces, man?
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[SPEAKER_01]: They actually look like a content not maybe not not quite a contender.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not quite in that like top two or three, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Asia looks better than ever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She looks like the best player in the league, especially with Collier out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, she's been unstoppable.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Asia is the best player in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think MVP is always who's the best player in the league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just who's the best that season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think Asia has been the best player in the league for like the past five years or four years or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think like there were some stats earlier in the season where it's like Asia currently leads the team in this game and points rebounds and assists.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like what the hell that can't be happening even though how good she is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now they're fifth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Seven and three in their last ten.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're, you know, one and a half, maybe out of a.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Do they have a games back thing you're, they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're, they're one game back from, from fourth place in Phoenix and got, I just hope we don't see them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope we don't see bad Minnesota, Minnesota, New York and Vegas is who I don't want to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, they can play with New York a little better than those other two teams, but yeah, they'll, they'll be too in barbecue for sure, but they've had good games against New York, but I just worry that just casually adding Emma, me some into your team and, you know, it's shit, twenty-fourth in the night.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why?
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[SPEAKER_00]: They lost though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They lost the aces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can also argue that they're still, you know, figuring everything out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, John Quill was out when when when Misa Min came in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Misa Min was able to just like kind of take her spot while she was out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now John Quill is back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So how do you figure out the rotations?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is a good time for them for Sandy Brondello to figure out the rotations and kind of lead into posties and they're not figuring this out in posties.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have these last twelve games to figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I do wonder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: if the league was a little bit more competitive for like maybe those top four spots.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If the injury timeline would be a little bit different for some of these top players, because like if you're Brianna Stewart and or if you're New York and Minnesota, you're like, okay, like Minnesota already locked up a playoff spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we stuff like fifteen games left in the season or whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're so far ahead.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it wasn't like that or if we maybe were later in this season, you do wonder,
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[SPEAKER_01]: If these ladies would do playing, but if they don't, if you're resting them for the play, if you want them for that stretch playoff run, because that's that's a tournament man and that's going to be the hardest basketball that they play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it kind of goes back to what Ghost was talking about is, you know, making sure that you have a strong eight, but at the same time for the Valkyries, you kind of have to go for it now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't really wait because if you if you wait
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you wait too long.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You may miss the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't expect the Valkyries definitely want to get in the mix and be that like historical team, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: The historical expansion team to make the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be a big little thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not it won't be the won't be the banner necessarily for for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like Joe Lake, I'm not hanging that in in in in ball hall, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I think it'd be a nice thing for them, especially because, you know, they still say that they're supposed to win a title and within the first five years of the franchise.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a really, really good step totally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I saw something that was like the Detroit shock or like the greatest expansion team of all time from a win loss record at five hundred.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they got, how many wins of the Valkyries have right now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Valkyries have seventeen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Detroit shock got to seventeen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The Valkyries have tied the most winningest expansion team of all time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're clearly going to beat that number.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because so there's forty four games in a season and they've played thirty two.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's twelve games left.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Veronica sticks in six.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got twenty three wins.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I read that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I found Marissa and Jimmy's story that Veronica is the first Valkyrie to score thirty this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I had like double take as like is it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I was like, I guess that makes sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pretty crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just a crazy number to hit.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a crazy number when what did the team get to eighty eight?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what they got to?
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's a nice chunk of that eighty eight.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's do a little bit of a prediction for these next few games here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're both predicting win for Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Though again, if they lose it, not a drink, a little bit of a jinx.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And hopefully not a trap game, but it's not like a like the last Chicago game was where it's like the fifth leg of this long road trip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like they were, you know, just did those was the first game in Washington and then tomorrow they're in Chicago and then they're back home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: True.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Less of a trap than I feel like the last one was that last one was a glee again Chicago.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They could tell they were just tired and they were just like thank God Chicago so bad and they were missing so many players.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you be happy with a win in Chicago?
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[SPEAKER_01]: A loss at home against Atlanta and a split with the Phoenix.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think I think that's I think that's the most realistic option.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think you want, I think you especially want that land at home.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Can they beat that line at home though?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it realistic?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I beat them on the road and they almost beat them on the road the first time even though that went I don't know what the points ended up after that first game, but I've said on this podcast multiple times you change a few things that get you had the game for three and a half quarters So I think they're reading every single quarter going into every single quarter or something like that and that first game that they ended up losing so I definitely think they can beat
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[SPEAKER_00]: at land at home, but I think Atlanta's full squad now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The second game they played, they did not raise Ryan Howard and she is back.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that first game, which was July seventh, Alicia Gray had twenty four in that second game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, Valkyrie's won that second game, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the, that was the, that was the, that was the book.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the, that was the, that was the infamous green monster getting thrown onto the court.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the first game I happened.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is so bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm, I'm like literally embarrassed for people to do stuff like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you hear, um,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Zina basically say, when did shame go away?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if we still had shame, we need to show these people who are doing this and shame them out of doing this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm completely with Zena and Sabrina on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it was funny after the first one and then the second one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like okay, and then just kept happening and then you figure out why it happened and who it came from and it just ruins everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it really the crypto bro stuff?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that I'm trusting Ben?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Ben did the full full report full story on it and that's what it sounds like some meme coin over number like I feel
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel as lost as I did with the NFT stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what that world is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a crazy world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we have we have some basketball men and a and Killian from the San Jose Cron or San Francisco Chronicle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: She wrote an article that I like that I was like I feel you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know that we we've talked about doing the the giant's game Valkyrie's game on the same day kind of thing like we've seen people do that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was wondering if you were going to do it when you went to the giant's game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if I if I had more time, I would have I would have done it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I like she wrote this article and she was like, you know, you have these two franchises.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have similar records, yet you are so unfulfilled by the giants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And even though the Valkyries are not world beaters, you are so enthused by the Valkyries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now some of this is just that the expectations of so much different, like totally Valkyries don't have expectation as an expansion team, but they are outplaying whatever you thought they would do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the giants, on the other hand,
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, they're just such a disappointment and they're like connected in this interesting way because they, you know, they only play, I don't know, what is that?
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[SPEAKER_01]: But like two miles, the parks are like two miles away from the arena or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Is it even to probably do two on the dot if that like maybe less Yeah, so I thought that was really interesting because I was like I feel you I do a podcast about the giants and I'm so frustrated and so embarrassed and so Like just disappointed and then you do the this show with the Valkyries and oh
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we can be critical about certain things, but you're just so excited to watch them play because they're just overperforming what you thought that that could even be possible.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it just feels like the Valkyries are playing with house money and the giants are.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Have to worry, like it's like the Dodgers get everyone in the giants, like this is a fun thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Dodgers are playing with the giants could just.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Scrape together a few wins that might be interesting, because the Dodgers are playing bad too, but they, Giants are just terrible team.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's different that the Velcro's got Raphael Devers at the Deadline with higher expectations.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who would be the Raphael Devers of the WNVA?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, all right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this week on this network, we'll do we're going to record another episode of We Want Winners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So four Niners are back in town or back in back in in the mix.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They have a playoff game or playoff game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Exhibition game on Saturday against the Raiders.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I guess like some of the starters may actually play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that might be more fun than usual.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Rod and I will get back together and we will put out an episode Monday morning on audio and video.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then Brad and I will be back later on Monday to go live on this YouTube channel.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we'll put the audio up for Tuesday morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Brendan and I will be back next week.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And we'll see we may be able to talk a little bit more about
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[SPEAKER_01]: the change in branding here for this podcast specifically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Nope, it is not going to be called Violet the Raven podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We are not changing it to Violet.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Violet may have her own podcast at some point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That may be the new thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The mascot podcast.
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That would, if Violet wanted a podcast, don't you think people would listen?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it would be almost criminal to give the mascot a like a human English voice American voice they that would just do weird if I let needs a home man we are available we would put it up we would definitely put up a violet the mascot podcast
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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that is it for me here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to Ghost, thanks for Valky Hoops for checking in and hanging out with us.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun when we get some live comments on this show because sometimes they think of things that I was like, oh yeah, it's a good point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We should bring that up in the show.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, oh, for Brian, I am WG.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We will see you when we see you.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Peace out.