Aug. 18, 2025

The Giants' Therapy Session, MLB Realignment, & The Brewers Blueprint | Thompson 2 Clark

The Giants' Therapy Session, MLB Realignment, & The Brewers Blueprint | Thompson 2 Clark

Join hosts Brad Evans and Garrett Gonzales for a much-needed therapy session on the latest episode of Thompson 2 Clark. They'll go beyond the win-loss record to find the positive signs of progress, from the promising contributions of young players to the significant jump in the team's farm system rankings.

The discussion will then shift to the big picture in Major League Baseball, analyzing Commissioner Rob Manfred's comments on geographical realignment. What would a new league structure look like, and how could it impact the Giants and their rivals?

Finally, the hosts will examine the Milwaukee Brewers as a blueprint for the San Francisco Giants. As a small-market team that has consistently found success, the Brewers' model of smart trades, elite player development, and a focus on culture could be exactly what the Giants need to turn things around. It's a must-listen for any fan looking for hope and a clear path forward for the franchise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with Drosion, throws to Sandberg and the pitches proud of the second base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thompson has it, throws the first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty seven years of waiting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's up on the pen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to Thompson to Clark after yet another really horrible weekend giant baseball and did on a good note though, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you to Logan Webb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a broken bat single that scored three runs caught the the Marlin sleep in the little there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the Domest was like, oh, you're going to throw to second base while I'm about to turn the corner here on third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that was a nice win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just one of those where you're just like, man, like, and this is why baseball is hard, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you could do seventy five percent of that consistently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're a better team and they do that like twenty five percent of the time and that's why they are who they are right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was nice to see Logan Webb get a victory poor Justin Verlander got jacked again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it, you know, I think earlier in the season, rightfully so, verlander was not getting victories, but he's pitched really well lately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they just can't score any runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the whole name of the game there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not, we're not going to sit here and, and cry and moan about this team, by the way, the whole theme of this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have to work before I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The whole theme to this week is we understand who they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know all of the scars, all of the bumps in the bruises we've gone over this ad nauseam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to try and look from a perspective of like, okay, all that being said, what are some positive things about this team and we'll do that in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this was, you know, I think Brad and I were just frustrated all week watching them lose and then he was like, you know what, we need to do a segment where we do like a shrinking episode from Apple TV great show by the way, I think that was our favorite show of the year was shrinking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a great show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Denise and I just, it had been on my list for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really like Jason Seagull.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Love Harrison Ford, obviously, we're Star Wars guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was really looking forward to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was not disappointed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, completely hooked from episode one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I highly recommend if anybody has Apple, TV plus out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think season three is already wrapped.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see when this isn't three day views.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's do it here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're gonna do therapy time for Giants fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that was some Namaste music for everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some loose music.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Since you had the idea for the episode or film segment, why don't you kick it off?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And why don't you give me something that you're looking at glass half full when it comes to this baseball team and their future?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you kind of have to, and I kind of touched on that a little bit last week or the week before something, I don't mind, and again, we're a long time giant fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Long time giant fans, we've been through ups and downs, we've seen it all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, shoot, we were fans when the giant's lost to hundred games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we've seen it all and we've been there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One thing I don't mind about seasons like this is you get to kind of see,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get excited about the off-season because I know that there's going to be movement, especially with Buster Posey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is really truly

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[SPEAKER_01]: his first off season because he's had a full season as head of baseball operations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he's going to go into next season of fresh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been there before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's seen it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He knows what this team needs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's really going to go try to get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, whatever players he gets in the off season, they're going to be, they're going to be probably big ticket items, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we got William Thomas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He traded for devours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just probably going to be some big ticket items.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I like to do in a season like this is really find those gems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Find those guys who are starting to perform well second half of the season and you need to stick to a little excited and you start to think about, whoa, what type of role can this player have on next season's team?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of those bright spots is Christian Cos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's really come on lately with

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chapman being hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be playing some third base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tyler Fitzgerald is up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be playing second base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Christian cost can really play third base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can play second base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Probably play a little bit of short and spell Willie Domus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we really need a guy who's a super utility guy and maybe he can even work on some outfield stuff and the office isn't played a lot outfield too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you look at his numbers this year and this is his first year in the bigs, twenty seven years old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can he repeat this next year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looks like a gamer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting the shots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a hundred and thirty five played appearances this season of fifty three games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's given him in just fifty three games a one point three war, which is pretty amazing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, when you think about three home runs, eighteen ribs, two eighty one batting average, OPS plus of one eleven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the type of guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can he start at second base?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can he be your full-time second baseman?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather have somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather have a guy like Christian Cos who can you you can plug in and he could be that guy who's going to pop in and you know he's going to give you maximum effort and you know he's going to give you good at bats and you know with an with an aging in field like William Thomas and and matchup and they're going to need some more days off here in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You said a thing in Giants fans were like, wait, didn't we just sign them this year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, well, we did, but they're on the backs, you know, they're on the backside of, uh, I guess you should say youthful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're on the back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to call them old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm saying they're exactly, they should be in their prime.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but at near the end of their deal is, yeah, they're going to get older before the end of the deal more than like exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when you've got a guy like cost, you can plug him in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He can do some different things for you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's one of my bright spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My therapeutic bright spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to see when he's in the lineup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get excited because I like to watch his at bats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's some rough ones here and there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll have a strike out here and there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm trying to look at a strike out numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thirty-two strikeouts and hundred and thirty-five played appearances.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not a fantastic clip, but again, not absolutely horrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Only six walks, but he is putting the ball in play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is getting some knocks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you can cut down on the walks,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and have a little bit of a better eye.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, he's got the rest of the season to work on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Another six weeks or so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's got the off season to work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to bring training to work as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he could be a pretty vital super utility role for the giant's next season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to intertwine two things here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of the things that we found this year and it's been really the last two or three years is their inability to get to have an athletic team at the risk of or the offsetting athleticism for

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[SPEAKER_00]: trying to find contributors in the middle of the order.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so thus, you get Wilmer, Flores, and Jacques Peterson on the same baseball team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Rafael Devers on the same baseball team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because you're just trying to figure out how to score runs and drive and runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: on the flip side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're also not athletic at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the things that I found to be a nice breath of fresh air and it's more in the vein of like the backup role for you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what Dom Smith's future is for the giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if

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[SPEAKER_00]: You go into it next year and you're like, hey, we got this young kid and we want to, you know, if he doesn't start with the ball club and this we can start the Bryce Eldridge conversation here too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If Bryce doesn't begin the season on the roster, unless something bad happens, I imagine he's going to be on the roster at some point next season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dom Smith, veteran, left-handed bat, good, possibly good mentor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know if he is that or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he is also something that you could stick on the roster and be like, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he comes back and he plays with us and he's got to play every six or seven games, you're completely fine with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is when he's got to play every three out of four games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when he kind of gets exposed a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if Bryce Eldridge comes up next year and is the starting first baseman, you have this veteran behind him, a veteran who has a fifteen game hitting streak on the team right now in and he's not playing every day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's got some of this is in pinch hitting opportunities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I like the fact that they found somebody who

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't there to be the everyday first basement of a playoff club and you you sort of understood that, but I think he's a good vet to have in case next year they are able to find some starters and positions where you create these other opportunities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think, you know, I don't I wouldn't be excited if he had to play a lot next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he's a really, really solid bat and veteran presence on a winning baseball team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of like what we were talking about with Yaz.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If Yaz was your fourth outfielder, he'd be so great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has value even as a starting outfielder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does have value.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is harder to see when he hits two, twenty or two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But as a fourth outfield, or he'd probably be one of the most popular players on the team, because he wouldn't be exposed every day, at least his bat, because his glove is still solid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Same with Dom, I think if Dom is a bench player, and he comes in, and he gets a couple of opportune basits here and there, supports Bryce Eldridge, or maybe even plays as a bit of a defensive replacement when they need it sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be very valuable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just have to find the right spot, same with cost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you had a second basement that you could plug in every day and cost it spells second and he spells third, you're like, wow, this guy's really valuable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in the same vein as Christian Cross, Christian Cross, I like Dom Smith.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's interesting too, because just a week ago, I was thinking, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Release Dom Smith.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let him

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let them sign with a contender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let them help that team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think your past the playoff roster deadline, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think they combine that with the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're not on a team by the trade deadline, I don't think you can make the playoff roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and that's the forty-man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the thing is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: About a week ago, I was saying, you know, yeah, release them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let them go to a team and do something with a contender and let them contribute and then maybe get a ring because you're still going to get a ring, even though you're not on the playoff roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they go on to a normal series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's an interesting point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you really look at the roster breakdown, we should probably do a really good roster breakdown at the end of the season and figure out how many spots will be truly available at the end of the season going in the next season because that'll be interesting to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you do have a spot to have Dom Smith on your roster again, again, he's hitting to anyone, only thirty strikeouts and a hundred and sixty plate of pierces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's making contact and and he's got a little bit of power too and he's a veteran he's thirty years old and

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you've got him, you can platoon him with Eldridge and break Eldridge in a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you could just move devours to that full-time DH role, not have to worry about him playing first base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you've got the spot and you've got a guy like Christian Cos who can cover three infield positions, I think that's a good recipe to kind of hang on to him and see if he wants to stick around next season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's having such a good season

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[SPEAKER_01]: People are going to be knocking on his door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be harder this point to resign him for, you know, they got him on a minor league deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you're not going to get him back for cheap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to go somewhere else and probably get a two year deal or so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, only thirty years old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he may he may make more money than they're willing to pay, but I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With the young kid, you should be willing to pay some money for an investment in who is behind him, just in case the kid struggles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, Bryce Alders is going to be what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty one, twenty two years old next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what's your next one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, my next one is something that's been on the news lately and I'm really enjoying and we were hoping this would happen, but I'm really enjoying the giant farm system getting a nice little boost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They came in

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[SPEAKER_01]: Preseason ranking, twenty eight out of thirty teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now the midseason re-ranking that they usually do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: MLBs got them at number eighteen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they jump ten spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest mover.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The most improved.

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[SPEAKER_01]: jump out of any team in the rankings where the giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's nice to see, because again, we were just talking about Eldridge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last week we talked about Blade Tidwell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about his use Rodriguez to the guys that they got in trades at the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you add in their number, their first round draft pick is their number three prospect of killing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Johnny level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we've got something

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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't talked about in a really long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is going to sound weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to sound foreign to giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we have a very strong

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[SPEAKER_01]: prospect outfield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's something we don't talk about very often, but you've got a bunch of bishops.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually going to make up moments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, sorry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's still in trouble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, I'm still with us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I keep looking every now and then I got he's still there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's not knocking on the door, but he's still there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Outfielders Dakota Jordan, who's our number six prospect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you've got

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gilbert, who came up for us, you know, last week and we got him in the tray with the meds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, David as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to go David's in another strong outfielder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got a strong outfield prospect core.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me pull up our just our rankings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not major league baseball's full rankings, but I'm going to look at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got, I got him open here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Elders, Elders one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joe Swar, Hot Swar, Joe Swar, Gonzales, number two, but he's really young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's really young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A lot of these guys were not going to see next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a little thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Gavin Killing, is it Killing or Kylan?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've heard many people actually say his name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't watch the draft so that those are one of those ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't really know necessarily how they're pronounced until you actually hear a broadcast or say it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it'd be nice to see him pull a Robbie Thompson and just come right to the team next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Johnny's level, short stop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So level and Gonzalez are high risers in the straffed as well as Bo Davidson, who is five with who was two, I think earlier this season is now drawn to six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Dakota Jordan, Drew Gilbert, Rainer Areas is nine and then the right handed picture that they got Blake Tidwell is ten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, there's a lot of really good names in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my favorite, Greg, I'd like to see him do something, but Maui Ahuna.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If that's my favorite, you know, islander baseball name that that I've ever seen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's a short stop prospect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm seeing him at number thirteen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So how many Moana jokes do you think he gets for like his teammates way too many?

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[SPEAKER_01]: people probably drop off, you know, stuffed hay hays in the locker and the little chicken.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, so that's another, you know, therapeutic bright spot that I think of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's, it's, it's disparaging though when you do look at the years next to their names, what, what their ETA is to get to the majors and you've got Gonzalez at twenty thirty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got, you know, killing or silent at a twenty twenty nine Johnny on the level at twenty twenty nine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Bo Davidson and Dakota Jordan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're predicted twenty twenty seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So not too far away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Drew Gilbert's already up a reiner areas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty twenty eight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So not a lot of guys that are looking like they're going to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, contributing a ton next year, possibly Hay Zeus Rodriguez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was the catcher that the giants got in the Yankees trade, right, for Doval.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's a guy who's been battling a little bit of a bleak issue, shoulder issue and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's been kind of held down to DNA trade now and not really catching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he'll probably make some noise and spring training and try to push for the backup job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's one of my therapeutic bright spots and brings me happiness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I go to my happy place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think of our minor league system that's starting to climb up because I know I know with Farhan, that was kind of a big deal for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He really wanted to build a farm system, started to

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it just took a lot of steps backwards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So after Buster's first draft, I already have a guy that you draft that is already your number three prospect on a list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's quite impressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then making some trades, get some guys to kind of bolster and get you at the number eight teams spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe some offseason moves, if they end up trading, some more veterans in the offseason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you could possibly see the the farm system boost up even a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to give two shout outs to two players who won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's the Matt Kane of our time and if you're if we're being truthful, he's probably a little bit better in Matt Kane who is Logan Webb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's got to do it in playoff battles in order to get to Matt Kane level, but probably at least as good of a career so far, maybe even slightly better in my mind at least, but Kane was, Kane was great as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just, you know, it's got to be frustrating for him to pitch as well as he has and the giants are like, twelve and thirteen and all of his starts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What it means is they just don't hit for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of unluckiness in there as well, but he came through yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think what he's proven this year is when you don't get strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it is a little hard sometimes to be considered like the shutdown guy because some of some of what happened is based off of contact and if you have some unlucky contact and just the ball getting hit into play you take away

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[SPEAKER_00]: what you can control, but this year he's been able to get more strikeouts and it's been I think it has cemented him as like that ace and what would be nice is next year knowing that more than likely it'll be Robbie Ray's last year on the club if they can get a strong number two

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you have the three starting pictures, then you worry less about group and bird song.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how much money they are willing to spend or who's actually out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like if you think about Logan Webb, I just think about when Logan Webb and Carlos Rodon were on the same staff or even Logan Webb and who's the who's the pictures on the blue jays now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gosman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like when you had the the pitchers back to back like that, and then if you can add in a Robbie Ray, I think you really give yourself a chance to compete even with

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[SPEAKER_00]: the poor offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the part of the problem this year is, you know, that they have really two guys who they trust to give them good innings and and that's Ray and way, but I think you you probably do need one more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They thought that was going to be verlander and it has been verlander.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These last several starts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do think a number two would be great and it's like

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[SPEAKER_00]: do it to do it for your guy web man like you know he's he's been so consistent let's line him up so he's he doesn't have to be so great every single time but in the second thing I wanted to mention from a veteran standpoint is as I've the more I've seen of divers the more I get divers

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wrote that I'm not going to compare him to Barry bonds, by the way, not happening here, but when I watch him look at certain pitches and kind of go, okay, like

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can probably foul that thing off, but let's wait for two strikes to swing at that pitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he has a really particular zone early on and sometimes it does cause him to strike out a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe if he was a little bit more expansive in his strikes on earlier, then he wouldn't strike out as much, but he also probably would, you know, hit some ground balls up the middle or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's trying to drive the baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of get it now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was a little worried about the strikeouts and just seeing him just be so off on some pitches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when I watched him live and then I've been watching him a little bit more closely, I think he's really going to have a strong year next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you have to go back to that Buster Posey trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and buster went after it and it actually failed, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at the big picture, they've probably been one of the bottom five worst teams in baseball since that trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you believe that diver just gonna be a plus plus hitter for your team, then maybe this was the year that you take that bump and you sort of figure things around divers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you've to build your lineup around divers more than it is today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe next year,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you look for, you know, some some table setters because, you know, what's going to happen is with that right field and the right center at this park, he's not going to hit thirty five home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably going to hit twenty five, but he's also going to hit a lot of doubles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's going to hit some balls really, really hard that he's going to have to leg out some doubles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have to build your offense around your best players and devours as clearly their best hitter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen enough of of Jung who lead to kind of no, okay, he's not going to be that guy who's going to hit fifteen home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to really have to figure out how to be a high average line drive hitter in this park, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've seen a Domus, a Domus is

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[SPEAKER_00]: from the right from the right hand, it's side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've only seen a handful of guys be able to dominate from the right hand side of the batter's box in this park.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of them is Jeff Kent, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has a right hand at hit or maybe nobody's hit better in this park than Jeff Kent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't think a Domus is necessarily that, but he has also shown

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he'll probably hit over twenty homeruns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what he's at right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's probably pretty close as a right handed hitter having the bad start that he did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So build your build your rotation and and back up Logan Web.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see Buster get a dependable number two for next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Robbie Ray could slide into three and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do what you need to do to build around your best hitter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who are the players that you can put around this guy so that the offense is not so unathletic as we like to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You need to find some athletes to build around devours knowing the type of hitter that he is and knowing that he's just not, he's not gonna get on bait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not gonna steal any bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not gonna run, run bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's gonna need some time off because he's probably not in the best shape like he should be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but still he's your best hitter build around the guy and but I like what I've seen even though he has struggled at times I've seen enough to go okay I get it now I understand what makes him special and he he's just that he has had an off

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, second half of this season in the in the new park with the new teammates and with, you know, playing exclusively in the national league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's some learning curves there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think I'm willing to give them the benefit of that out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're like, last month, I was like, oh, man, they may have got sold a bag of goods here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then, as I watch more closely, I think I see it now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and you know, the other thing too is when you look at the giant's lineup like tonight, let's look at the giant's lineup tonight, all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got, and this is Monday night, first game of the Padre series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Casey Schmidt is in there, uh, jungooly Christian costs Tyler Fitzgerald.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's there's four athletic guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, they're not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: These guys aren't masters saved for Casey Schmidt who's, you know, started to kind of turn it on in another bright spot for next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if Casey Schmidt, you know, we're talking about that conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Earlier's a Casey Schmidt ends up being your second basement next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you've got Christian costs when somebody goes down, you have costs and Schmidt in the line up at the same time, which, you know, could be beneficial if they add more to this, to this lineup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but again, they've gotten a little bit more athletic now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wilmer floor is in the lineup tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks to take some of your athleticism down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you've got devours and floors and they're both floors, won't probably won't be here next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you've got Gilbert in there as well, playing right field tonight Fitzgerald is playing right field, Gilbert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gilbert has the night off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you add Gilbert in there, and let's say you've got, you know, guys like cost Fitzgerald Schmidt, jungoo lee and Gilbert in the line, I'm now you have a lot of athleticism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can kind of push a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can take more chances.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's kind of the frustrating thing watching this team right now is

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't feel like there's a lot of chances being taken.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just a couple days ago, the giants had had nine stolen base attempts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now they had a couple over the weekend, but they had nine leading coming into that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had nine stolen base attempts since June twenty fifth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and they're like nine for nine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, nine for nine in those times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got to take those chances and Melvin's excuse on that, which I understand was that we're not getting on base enough to take chances.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're glaring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you take a chance and you get thrown out, then it's like, well, you wasted your one guy that got on base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, if we can get more hit and runs, more bumps, you know, just some different things to kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: push this line up along to get into scoring position to have more chances with runners in scoring position.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know they've been failing at that lately, but you know, the odd say if you have more runners in scoring position chances that you're going to come through at some point and you're going to score more runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's what I really want to see is that more athleticism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you have any others that you wanted to add for?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, those were my two therapeutic ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, there's definitely more to look at throughout the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, you know, the jocking for position for the seventh eight to nine, you know, bullpen roles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know that right now Randy Rodriguez is there, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we know that's the thing we know he's there but do we know do we know he's going to stick that that's the whole thing so the rest of the season is kind of you know it's fun to watch it's fun to watch him grow and see if he can be that guy because you you definitely want giants fans we want to go into next season knowing that okay we've got a guy a lockdown guy in the night so so if you can finish out with like

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[SPEAKER_01]: twelve for twelve on save chances going out the rest of the season and really lock it down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be comforting for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a chance, you know, Tyler Rogers comes back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be a free agent in the off season, you know, unless the meds lock them up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he liked his time in San Francisco and even when he left, he said, you know, I'd love to come back and play in San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's a chance he comes back and ends up being your seventh or eighth guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm kind of watching that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the bullpen battles and I want to see if Ryan Walker can still, you know, continue to come around and be that guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, this wasn't necessarily on our rundown, but I saw the Twitter fallout over some comments that Elio Ramos made and probably not the best way to state what he was trying to state in a sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was trying to back up his manager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's the I guess there is a frustration maybe over Bob Melvin being so cool common collected is the chance of losing all these games and not yelling and screaming and and asking stuff of people.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And here's the here's quote by Ramos he said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Outside people don't know anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the type of person he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That doesn't mean he's not a great manager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When we're winning, everyone's on our side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's like all the fans are against us and all that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't get it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're here and we know it's going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know what we're feeling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know what we're working for, but fans are going to be fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We can do nothing about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about those comments?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't do something about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't do nothing about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, play better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Giants fans were going to be hard because we were tied for the Dodgers in June for first place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, Giants fans are going to be hard because they saw what was in grass.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to see it fall apart like this, not and it's in just like slowly crumble.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It fell to earth like a meteor and it was historic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this is a historic collapse, you know, how bad they've been playing at home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're playing badly,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and losing what twelve in a row at home in front of those fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the building is pretty full.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The building's full.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be pissed off still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I went to two games this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I went to two games this year together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were competitive in one of the games, but not in the other one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the beginning of the class because we saw games one and two for Rafael Devers against Cleveland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, it's kind of tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, yeah, you can do something about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can get better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody can get better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody could play better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there are their excuses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, you get some things here and there happen like the ball hitting second base the other day that could have been easily turned into a double play by the giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you're going to get some stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you and I talked about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You said, and we had two points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they were both good points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You said, you can't overcome that if you're not hitting the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because that scored what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: two runs and made it a three one ball game and and you kind of feel like well there's the whole the whole right up it feels like they take a one run deficit and it absolutely feels like the game is over yeah exactly and and my point was that well you know and also you've tried away two of your bullpen pieces and and and so yeah it's it's even more difficult because now you now you're down three one one if you come back and tie it do you have the confidence to really

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, shut it down the rest of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like we did earlier in this season, earlier in the season, we knew once you get to the sixth inning, we kind of thought we might give up one round the rest of the games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The best moment in the league by a lot of metrics.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the team was fighting back offensively.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Both of those things are gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so yeah, it's tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what can you do about it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, play better baseball, play more exciting baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're losing,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, five to four ball games, but you're playing exciting baseball and stealing bases and max effort.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I'm not saying these guys have quit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm absolutely not saying these guys have quit or done anything like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But but but but from what I'm seeing visually as a giant fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see more just you know it playing with a with a I don't give a damn attitude.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go out bust my butt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're we're going to have fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to play baseball and I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've gotten tight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, this team is tight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they're searching for things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're searching for wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like we saw yesterday, final game of that series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They won seven to one against Tampa Bay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they played a fun game, Kristen Coston and Tyler Fitzgerald went back to back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were having a good time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The dugout was geeked up, so maybe that carries over to the San Diego series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's possible and that'd be great if it does because I just want to see, you know, the team have fun and play hard baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder from Ramos' perspective, last year he was the Dandy of the team, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was their all-star outfielder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a great story, not even making the team at a camp and then having to join the team and then making the all-star game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's still one of the better hitters on the team this year, but I wonder if he's starting to hear

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[SPEAKER_00]: or maybe reading quotes about his defense and his base running because on a team that has very little room for error, he as a player is kind of like the definition of giving away runs in some ways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wonder if some of that is

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is kind of reading some of the stories and getting frustrated in the that way and then using the Melvin question as a way to maybe strike back a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it from his perspective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to be frustrated with how he's playing in some of these games at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a fan base that is dealing with essentially a second half collapse, or at least not being able to put together two halves of baseball for the last four years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he is a part of that these last two years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I would have, you know, I can't, he's going to say what he's going to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's an everyday baseball player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a professional.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think choosing to maybe take a shot at fans would probably not be the best thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe somebody told him already, like, yeah, now that quote's going to sit there and people are going to use it as a way to complain about us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I get it from his perspective at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he could have gone about that a little bit better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know what his intention was with that other than people are taking shots of my manager.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not my manager.

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[SPEAKER_01]: People aren't in the clubhouse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so they don't know the situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe that's a better way to word it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not in here every day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't know our conversations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't, they don't see what we go through before and after the game to discuss situations and to discuss hitting and whatnot with the staff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You look at Ramos, you know, first half he was a two, sixty-two hitter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with a seven sixty two or seven sixty six OPS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can have two seventy five with a six fifty nine OPS.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No home runs in the second half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of those home runs were in the first half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know and and and young guy and and and still working and and like you said a frustration of of the second year in a row a second half collapsed for this team and and for him he's that he's

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[SPEAKER_01]: slowed down in the second half two years in a row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're waiting to see, not only are we waiting to see the complete season giants, we're waiting to see the complete season Elliott Ramos as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was calling last week for, you know, maybe he's a trait candidate and the off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This doesn't, I don't think this changes any of that, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the reason I think so is because maybe

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[SPEAKER_01]: defensively with what the giants have now, maybe he's not a fit for this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because you want to move possibly, Jung who lead a left field, you want to get a solid center fielder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe Ramos is a packaged deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got four years left of control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is the attractive part about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, so if he is going to be trade bait.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe he's a packaged deal to Cleveland to get Stephen Kwon in center field and Kwon's got two years left of control.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's not, you know, I threw that to something on blue sky and they, you know, like, why would Cleveland do that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, if you're throwing ramos into a couple other players into it, and ramos is going to be your DH.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he could use that left field wall in Cleveland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's attractive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it really is attractive because again, you've got him for four years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can see what you have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to lose quann maybe in two years if you don't lock him up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If if they don't, if they want to lock quannup, they will probably keep him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if that's the goal, if it is not the goal, if they don't see that as the future, then it could be an option.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So by the way, Rob is feeling the same way as us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's watching live, shout out to Rob, says all things aside, I just want the giants to steal bags.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're with you Rob, but we're right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'd love to see them steal some bags.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to see what he said next to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said, imagine an outfield at Oracle of Kwan Lee and Chandler Simpson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I'd love that, but I don't think Tampa Bay is going to be in a Chandler Simpson anytime soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that dude is fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's what, you know, as as old school giants fans,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brett Butler, you know, D-Loo, and all those guys, seeing those guys on the bases and stealing bags and actually making things happen and some hit and runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can hit and run with Jungle Lee, his contact editor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you could do that more often, I mean, God, that's, you know, that's my baseball heaven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll tell you that, my truck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, the last part of this show, I do have an old guy, Ali, that I want to get to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Last part of this show I just want to kind of look at a couple of things around baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the first thing and this is a small thing and I don't even know if there's any any real story here, but Rob Manfred said that if the league expands it would also likely geographically real line

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's looking to reduce travel for players and create more appealing prime time broadcast windows such as west coast teams playing west coast teams in that seven PM window on the west coast east coast teams playing east coast teams and that seven o'clock window on the east coast then you could kind of stack those games up together on specific nights

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[SPEAKER_00]: He said, uh, Nashville and Salt Lake City as the POS or he didn't say this, but it sounds like those are the two top teams in the running for, uh, potential expansion sites.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking five years down the line more than likely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what do you think about geographic real alignment?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of a tough one because when you look at the MLB, when you look at the map, right, of the United States with MLB teams overlaid on them, it is so heavy east of the Mississippi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm not quite sure how you would do that because west of the Mississippi, you've got one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve, thirteen of the thirty teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You'd have to throw in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is just hypothetical because we don't know exactly how they're going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're looking at splitting this map and going, the American League now is East teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The nationally is now West teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you were going to do something like that, now you've got the Mets and the Yankees are both in the American League.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Rays and Marlins are both in the American League now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the Reds and Guardians, Cubs and White Sox, then in the National League would be like maybe you look at the Twins, Royals, Rangers, Houston, and then the Rockies and everybody, you know what, the five

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[SPEAKER_01]: Arizona Seattle expansion team maybe in Portland, Oregon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one that's been thrown around Salt Lake cities another team that's been thrown around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did say, you know, the ideal expansion would be a team in the East and a team in the, you know, Rockies.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Rocky Mountain area and you know Rocky Mountain or West, which would be Portland or Salt Lake City.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how I feel about that other than I'm getting older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I'm enjoying the new playoff format.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The pitch clock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I liked the pitch clock at first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you and I was joke about this as we talk about we're getting older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like to pitch clock for night games when I'm at home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are nice, but I don't like to pitch clock for games that I go to because in the games over like in two hours and fifteen minutes, two hours and thirty minutes and then they kick you out of the stadium.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I pay you know, pay good money to go to a baseball game in the kick you out after two and a half hours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But but I do I do like changes and and I wouldn't mind seeing something a little bit different if it really cuts down on travel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it makes it so look, you're going to make an east coast swing once a year right and you're going to be out there for two weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, two and a half weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that's kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you're going to come back and you're just going to play in the West after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, maybe you're going to get a little more consistently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you're going to get consistency.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you're going to get some higher numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you're going to get some better numbers because guys are more comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're playing in one time zone for the majority of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of enticing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I like the idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, expansions going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be two more teams at some point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When is it going to be?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it will happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There will be two more teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nashville, I think, is one of the other ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think there's any other teams in the East that are even close to a possibility as Nashville.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I might be overlooking some, but I think Nashville is kind of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The NBA is similarly like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The NBA doesn't have leagues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have conferences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Eastern Conference and Western Conference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And within the Eastern Conference, you have the Atlantic Division, the Central Division, and the Southeast Division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in the Western Conference, you have the Northwest Division, the Pacific Division, all the California teams plus the Phoenix Suns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Southwest Division.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it would align similarly to how the NBA does it if you went that way, though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure people who

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, look at the travel for the NBA, probably find flaws in that system as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, it's interesting to look at, you know, baseball historically has been so much about history that they don't like changes, but then we have had some changes recently, which fans have accepted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Metz and the Yankees playing in the American League as sort of, you know, would that be beneficial with what people get upset?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, for instance, like, let's say,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The giants would be in the national league if you if you made the west than the national league or the western division or whatever, but let's say if what if the giants were all of a sudden in the American league, would it matter to you that much?

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know in name only it's still baseball there's DH everywhere now so yeah yeah that's what makes it that's what makes it almost like who cares at this point yeah yeah exactly and and so it wouldn't really matter a ton what I want to see is no matter what they do I would love to see more uh divisional play more

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[SPEAKER_01]: More play against the Dodgers, more play against the Padres and Rockies and Diamondbacks and less against

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[SPEAKER_01]: the rays and the Yankees and you know what I mean like so when they went that that was my biggest problem lately is when they went to the the more unbalanced well I shouldn't say unbalanced balance schedules what they call it were every team is playing every team in one season it doesn't I don't think that's I don't think that matters because you're playing the Yankees

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[SPEAKER_01]: three games a year and what is that that's only for fans it's only for people who come to the ballpark if you're a Yankees fan who lives out west you get to see them come to San Francisco every other year that great I mean that I think that's all it does it doesn't it doesn't mean like well everybody's played everybody the same amount of times not they haven't because we've still played the Dodgers

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[SPEAKER_01]: More than we play the A's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We still played the Dodgers more than we played, you know, the Mariners.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't like that part of the schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wish we would go back to, you know, after if they do a realignment, I'd love to see us just playing our division more often.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, I did see an update to the Ramos quote, and he did clarify

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[SPEAKER_00]: that he was really just trying to back up his manager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He loves the fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it, it does sound like he's, you know, he's, there's something inside the clubhouse where these guys are probably having some honest conversations about how to get better and it's just not helping.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that, that was the, the update.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So as we, as we sort of figured, I mean, personal, I wasn't mad at him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's, he, everybody's frustrated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you're frustrated, you say things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ask my wife, you know?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know how it is when you're frustrated you say something to go yeah, maybe I shouldn't have said that that was bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's talk about

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[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit about the brewers because I read a really good article from Ken Rosenthal about how the brewers are playing so well and it is it kind of like butts up against the idea of what baseball is today where where the analytics dominate and like certain you know if you follow these trends your team is going to be better and he basically wrote that

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[SPEAKER_00]: the way that the that the brewers win ball game some of it is is is look some of these things have leaned their way in in certain aspects especially with uh... bad and stuff like that they're just above average in in that category but some of the stuff that he wrote about i was just like man i wish the giants were more like that

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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of that is actually a large part of it is just based running in defense is where they really excel and they gain runs because of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other thing was that they are not actually hitting home runs necessarily like some of the better teams, but when you do those other things, you can make up for it and their starting pitching is not fantastic either, but their manager

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rosenthal was writing about how, you know, when some of the younger players do make mistakes, he is able to, you know, kind of take them out of games or maybe get a little show a little frustration.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's sort of the opposite of what we were just talking about with Ramos where Melvin is more or less kind of treating them like adults and just being like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what you did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go sit in the corner, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you screwed up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't have to tell you or yell at you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is this a different style, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a different style manager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it would be nice when Ramos screws up and gives away runs to just be like, okay, like, you need to take a seat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not as a way to shame him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just as a way to say, everybody is kind of even here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we need to allow for

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[SPEAKER_00]: players to get the opportunity to get in spots if other people make mistakes like, you know, healthy competition or whatever you could say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it sounds like that is the chemistry and and and everything with Milwaukee, but it is nice to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a team like that really be a top baseball right now because the other stories the Dodgers and the Dodgers are still I think they're still like if you want to bet on world series odds like the Dodgers are still kind of in the national league head and shoulders above but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is nice to see a team like the brewers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't have a lot of money, small market, and they're able to win baseball games like this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it shows you like, hey, maybe the model that the giants are trying to follow, which was Buster's model that he created at the beginning of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: pitching in defense, maybe we need to tell Butler, uh, buster, he needs to throw the base running in there too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you can still do it that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the brewers are the kind of the living in the breathing, um, way that that's happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm happy that they're playing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now when it comes to the playoffs, we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've, but they have not, well, I don't think they've won a playoff series in forever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they will have to show that that brand of baseball works in the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I did like to see this team

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[SPEAKER_00]: that it's kind of not on anybody's radar other than just being a competitive team being the best team in baseball right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And honestly, I think that's what the giants are trying to build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When Buster Bozi took over, I think that's his vision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't do it in one season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's really, really difficult when you've got a twenty-six-man roster, active roster, and you've got a forty-man roster of other players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to have turnover, and you're going to have guys that don't pan out, and you're going to make some mistakes here and there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that's what the giants

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[SPEAKER_01]: really want to build towards, and that was the feeling I got and the opening press conference, you know, being more athletic, taking more chances, being instinctual.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's what the brewers are, they're an instinctual team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got there and you play baseball and you play baseball hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you screw up, you screw up, you move on and

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're wearing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's what we talk about in baseball all the time, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You wear it and then you move on and you get better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think, you know, watching the brewers and watching what they're doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they still screw up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the ninth inning the other night, they had to whatever they had an error that opened up the ballgame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they still were able to kind of fight back because they're a scrappy team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what the giants felt like at the beginning of the season and things kind of fell apart a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that's what the giants are trying to build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be lovely to see the brewers knock off the Dodgers in the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Having that didn't they sweep them this year?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they played like six or seven games against the Dodgers and they swept them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's impressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have the biggest lead in baseball right now as far as the divisions are concerned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The tigers are a half a game higher with eight and a half games ahead of the guardians.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they are eight games again eight games ahead of the cubs in the cubs just collapsed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they've just fell apart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle Tucker is not hitting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's actually got benched second game of the double header today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It got washed out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they were going to bench him and then possibly tomorrow's game as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's got bad for Kyle Tucker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the positioning in the American League wildcard is going to be really interesting as they go down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Reds Oxmarish and Yankees are all within a half a game of each other for those top three spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Cubs are still a healthy four and a half game lead ahead of the reds or a top like they would have to lose four and a half games to fall out of the wildcard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they still have some space there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and the giants are six games back of the number three met in the wild card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is pretty amazing to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the met's have been fallen apart too, and that's helped the giants big time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, the giants don't have the defined bullpen that they had a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're still struggling offensively, so I know some giants fans are like, hey, we're still only six games back of the wild card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: simmer down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would turn my side starts next season and I go back and listen again to our to our therapeutic session portion of this podcast just so you you kind of know what to look forward to and find that inner peace and and come to the acceptance that this probably is not the year we're going to sneak into the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We may have to change the name of this podcast the next few years to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kylinda Eldridge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My hope is that they're that good that we want to change the name of the pod from Thompson to Clark to Kylinda Eldridge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's end the show with a little bit of old guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I'm trying to think of the last time I ever got into an actual fist fight and like a serious one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't, I don't even know if I've have maybe like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I remember being in Tahoe when I was like in like a fourth or fifth grade and yeah it was like hanging out like looking at toys or something and some dudes came up to me and we're like yeah I don't you know they were just kind of being goofballs yeah one of the guys like they kind of was like picking on me for no reason and I just kind of like shoved him into the

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the book it but I got like really emotional because I was like what the hell yeah, right during this area and But I say that to say this which is I was that a used auto dealership

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[SPEAKER_00]: on last weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Crystal head bought a third car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have many automobiles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you've been in this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Many right now specific kind of of of automobile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you guys really know what you want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This wasn't that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh we we were just looking for an inexpensive third car as we are teaching the kids the the twins had a drive and uh one of them is probably get his license i would say in the next four to six months so he's pretty close and so she buys the car it's uh peanuts an older car it's it's it's pretty nice car um

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when she, as she's making the deal, you know, they, they talk about like, oh, well, what happens if, you know, we find wrong with it and he kind of has his little thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we take it to get the, the, the, the, the, the, the, what do they call it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: One hundred inspection inspection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what we find out is that now this is pet boys, it's not my local guy, my local auto shop guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were like, oh yeah, you know, there's about four thousand dollars in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And things you need to do to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we were like, huh, this is this is wild like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Crystal calls the guy back and he's like, well, just bring the car to me and I'll take it to my guy and you know, what we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I took it to him and like I've been not been in any of these conversations at all.

01:00:05.405 --> 01:00:07.146
[SPEAKER_00]: I was just hearing things through her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I let her handle that whole situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then so I go and I hand the keys to the guy and I'm like, all right, I'm here dropped the car off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just going to go walk back home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a mile and a half away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he looks at me and he goes, well, what do you want me to do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, uh, you talked to my wife, right?

01:00:26.468 --> 01:00:27.690
[SPEAKER_00]: You guys were texting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She said to drop the car off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're gonna take it to a shop and get it looked at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, yeah, but does that come out of my pocket?

01:00:37.278 --> 01:00:41.581
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I didn't have this conversation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You talked to her.

01:00:42.182 --> 01:00:43.723
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what did you guys agree upon?

01:00:43.823 --> 01:00:45.485
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, do you have the texts?

01:00:45.545 --> 01:00:47.526
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, I'm kind of the middle.

01:00:47.867 --> 01:00:49.088
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not in this at all.

01:00:49.108 --> 01:00:50.149
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just handing the car off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is really aggressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like so aggressive for no reason whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:00:57.497 --> 01:01:02.719
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he goes, um, yeah, he just kept saying, like, what do you want me to do?

01:01:02.779 --> 01:01:03.939
[SPEAKER_00]: Like am I on the hook for this?

01:01:03.999 --> 01:01:06.480
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, like, I sold the car to you guys.

01:01:06.500 --> 01:01:15.403
[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and I was like, well, okay, but you gave my wife the impression that if something was wrong, you know, we could come and collaborate and problem solve the next time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just is so disrespectful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, this is an older man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably, I don't know, fifteen to twenty years older than me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he didn't want to drop him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, there was nothing physical that was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if he was like younger and my age, I imagine we would have got no stenosis because of how aggressive he was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I pulled back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not pull back on my words, but I was trying to deescalate at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so finally I said,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You are a business man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have sold a lot of cars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just told me you've been here for twenty years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're telling me that you've never had a situation where you sell a car and someone is unhappy with their purchase.

01:02:01.665 --> 01:02:04.087
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, yeah, but there's this deal that they pay me.

01:02:04.147 --> 01:02:07.290
[SPEAKER_00]: And then if they want to return the car, then they got to pay an extra five hundred bucks.

01:02:07.310 --> 01:02:08.852
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, OK, I get that.

01:02:10.097 --> 01:02:13.238
[SPEAKER_00]: But to me, that sounds like a ripoff.

01:02:13.278 --> 01:02:18.361
[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't sound like a great deal, especially when I'm coming to you the day after.

01:02:18.961 --> 01:02:21.302
[SPEAKER_00]: And so that, I'm sure that bothered him a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:02:22.042 --> 01:02:35.488
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we were haggling, got to the point of where I told Chris, I was like, look, either we eat this and we just take it because he's being like, he's being very stubborn about this or

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to get it to the point of where we're handing this car in and he's just giving us our money back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:02:43.034 --> 01:02:44.895
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, then see if you can get our money back.

01:02:45.536 --> 01:03:03.189
[SPEAKER_00]: And so we're arguing arguing and I look at I look right in the eye and I go, if you tell me right now that you sold this car in good conscious, in good conscience that a sixteen year old is who's a new driver is going to be able to drive this safely.

01:03:04.075 --> 01:03:06.697
[SPEAKER_00]: And you had no idea that there were any problems with the brakes.

01:03:07.037 --> 01:03:08.719
[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes, well, what do you mean brake problems?

01:03:08.739 --> 01:03:10.920
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yeah, they said it needs new brakes.

01:03:11.441 --> 01:03:12.882
[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, were they grinding?

01:03:12.902 --> 01:03:22.269
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, no, because if sixteen year olds are not going to have to be, when brakes are going to be, that's the, like that's, if he hears that, we're already past do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I go, if you can, if you can, if you can tell me that shake my hand, look me in the eye, I will walk away and say, we'll go get, we'll go get the car fix somewhere else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wouldn't do it.

01:03:36.362 --> 01:03:38.945
[SPEAKER_00]: It was like I checked him on his integrity.

01:03:40.486 --> 01:03:48.635
[SPEAKER_00]: And then he tried to call me out on like some other lies because what I think what he thought is that and this may have happened in the past is somebody buys a car from him.

01:03:50.311 --> 01:03:54.174
[SPEAKER_00]: Takes it on vacation and goes on a joy ride and then brings absolutely.

01:03:54.294 --> 01:03:55.615
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the week later.

01:03:55.635 --> 01:03:55.895
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:03:55.935 --> 01:03:56.776
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, sure.

01:03:56.916 --> 01:04:01.799
[SPEAKER_01]: And so like you went home and started to play.

01:04:03.621 --> 01:04:05.142
[SPEAKER_00]: He was how many miles did you drive it?

01:04:06.042 --> 01:04:07.623
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, uh, ten.

01:04:08.304 --> 01:04:12.867
[SPEAKER_00]: So he goes and he checks the thing and he's like, he's like, oh, nine point one.

01:04:12.887 --> 01:04:13.748
[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, yeah, see.

01:04:14.532 --> 01:04:22.137
[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like checking other things and he was trying he I think his biggest fear was that he was getting conned rather than he was doing makes.

01:04:22.177 --> 01:04:25.780
[SPEAKER_00]: So after I I stayed on it.

01:04:25.840 --> 01:04:32.564
[SPEAKER_00]: I was not going to pay the five hundred bucks that he wanted me to pay to be able to for him to buy our car back from us and this and that.

01:04:32.924 --> 01:04:34.125
[SPEAKER_00]: So I stood my ground.

01:04:34.485 --> 01:04:35.786
[SPEAKER_00]: He finally gave us the money back.

01:04:35.806 --> 01:04:39.629
[SPEAKER_00]: He even wanted to postate the check because the check that crystal gave him

01:04:40.289 --> 01:04:43.495
[SPEAKER_00]: It already cached on our end, but on his end was still showing pending.

01:04:43.976 --> 01:04:49.687
[SPEAKER_00]: And so he looks at me as he's signing the check back to us and he's like about drive to put today's date.

01:04:49.827 --> 01:04:50.669
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, yep.

01:04:51.345 --> 01:04:54.747
[SPEAKER_00]: And he puts today's day like begrudgingly gives us the check.

01:04:56.008 --> 01:04:58.329
[SPEAKER_01]: And so should have said that this is a business.

01:04:59.550 --> 01:04:59.770
[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

01:04:59.810 --> 01:05:04.912
[SPEAKER_00]: And so the other thing I think he was very, very fearful about what rightfully so this is a small business.

01:05:05.993 --> 01:05:07.814
[SPEAKER_00]: He lives and dies by his help reviews.

01:05:08.554 --> 01:05:10.715
[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, look, Crystal is going to.

01:05:11.816 --> 01:05:14.938
[SPEAKER_00]: Tell everybody in the world about experience.

01:05:15.799 --> 01:05:17.680
[SPEAKER_00]: And I, you know, I threw the next door card.

01:05:17.721 --> 01:05:19.362
[SPEAKER_00]: And I go, look, I'm a co-founder next door.

01:05:19.402 --> 01:05:26.227
[SPEAKER_00]: We have reviews, local reviews in Sunnyvale about the stuff to and I will make sure that those get seen by by the right people.

01:05:26.687 --> 01:05:31.351
[SPEAKER_00]: So he was, I think he sort of figured out it was going to be more painful for him to

01:05:32.051 --> 01:05:34.312
[SPEAKER_00]: argue with us, then to just give us the money back.

01:05:34.752 --> 01:05:38.534
[SPEAKER_00]: And he knew he was going to be able to sell the car at some point, probably sure.

01:05:38.654 --> 01:05:39.434
[SPEAKER_00]: Same amount of money.

01:05:40.734 --> 01:05:43.876
[SPEAKER_00]: And then maybe they fix the brakes after that, too.

01:05:44.016 --> 01:05:44.716
[SPEAKER_00]: Would you be nice?

01:05:44.756 --> 01:05:45.436
[SPEAKER_00]: Which would be nice.

01:05:45.456 --> 01:05:47.037
[SPEAKER_00]: And then resell it.

01:05:47.197 --> 01:05:54.219
[SPEAKER_00]: So then after everything, we had like twenty minutes as I was waiting for Crystal to bring some of the paperwork.

01:05:55.340 --> 01:05:59.001
[SPEAKER_00]: And he started telling me about his coming over to the US.

01:05:59.141 --> 01:06:01.102
[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was born in the Republic of Georgia.

01:06:01.905 --> 01:06:16.574
[SPEAKER_00]: So he said he came around the year two thousand and we were just talking and like I got it like I completely understood kind of where he was coming from and I said, you know, if you would have talked to me like this, we could have gotten into a solution.

01:06:17.174 --> 01:06:21.237
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you took it to your guy and you're like, yeah, pet boys is overcharging you.

01:06:21.257 --> 01:06:24.399
[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably a little bit closer to nine hundred dollars to get the work done.

01:06:25.339 --> 01:06:26.259
[SPEAKER_00]: We would have been fine.

01:06:26.479 --> 01:06:29.540
[SPEAKER_00]: We weren't as smart to price or whatever.

01:06:29.600 --> 01:06:31.481
[SPEAKER_00]: We could have compromised in some way.

01:06:31.961 --> 01:06:35.882
[SPEAKER_00]: But because you came at me so hard, it made me want to get my money back.

01:06:36.682 --> 01:06:43.424
[SPEAKER_00]: And which is what he agreed upon, which is what I commend him for, because he could have even tried to haggle at the last minute.

01:06:43.824 --> 01:06:45.425
[SPEAKER_00]: But I stood strong and then he.

01:06:46.045 --> 01:06:50.566
[SPEAKER_00]: But then we saw the other car that Crystal picked up afterwards.

01:06:50.626 --> 01:06:53.887
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, just the buying used cars, man.

01:06:55.328 --> 01:06:56.629
[SPEAKER_01]: And that's what I have harveen.

01:06:56.950 --> 01:06:57.891
[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, harveen.

01:06:58.532 --> 01:07:05.339
[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, and I'll be sitting there working with somebody I'll call him up on our Texan when I go, they want to do this.

01:07:05.379 --> 01:07:06.800
[SPEAKER_01]: He goes, absolutely nice.

01:07:06.820 --> 01:07:07.661
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I didn't think so.

01:07:07.881 --> 01:07:10.865
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm feeling great.

01:07:10.885 --> 01:07:15.430
[SPEAKER_00]: What a great, yeah, but it was a great reason to hook up that is so amazing.

01:07:16.482 --> 01:07:18.563
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so you're going to be out of town next week.

01:07:18.943 --> 01:07:25.184
[SPEAKER_00]: So we probably won't do a show if I can put something together with a guest.

01:07:25.404 --> 01:07:30.566
[SPEAKER_00]: I will definitely try on the the front of we want winners.

01:07:30.586 --> 01:07:31.886
[SPEAKER_00]: We just did a show last night.

01:07:31.906 --> 01:07:34.246
[SPEAKER_00]: I'm I'm going to be feeling for you.

01:07:34.286 --> 01:07:36.987
[SPEAKER_00]: If you got a throw Jimmy G into some games this year, by the way.

01:07:37.007 --> 01:07:40.688
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't, you know, Stetson is looking real.

01:07:40.848 --> 01:07:44.449
[SPEAKER_00]: I was wondering if he was actually going to be the sneaky choice there.

01:07:45.072 --> 01:07:53.434
[SPEAKER_01]: I think so, I don't know, I still think Jimmy G's gonna be your number two, but but but but that's in his kind of a stud man.

01:07:53.714 --> 01:07:55.835
[SPEAKER_01]: So they're fighting for it.

01:07:56.095 --> 01:07:57.155
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it'll be it.

01:07:57.515 --> 01:07:58.976
[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna want to be a number three.

01:07:59.016 --> 01:07:59.996
[SPEAKER_00]: No, I don't think so either.

01:08:00.056 --> 01:08:01.056
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I don't know.

01:08:01.116 --> 01:08:02.777
[SPEAKER_00]: Does he even want to play or does he just want to

01:08:03.686 --> 01:08:08.790
[SPEAKER_00]: beat have the spotlight of actually being an NFL player, which probably helps the date and life a little bit.

01:08:09.250 --> 01:08:11.672
[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

01:08:12.172 --> 01:08:16.656
[SPEAKER_00]: So we did we want winners that is up in both YouTube and in our podcast feed.

01:08:16.776 --> 01:08:19.458
[SPEAKER_00]: Brian and I will be back on Thursday.

01:08:19.578 --> 01:08:21.839
[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that's written in pencil.

01:08:23.112 --> 01:08:32.217
[SPEAKER_00]: Possibly all of the new rebranding for the combined Warriors Valkyrie show, at least in the podcast feed.

01:08:32.237 --> 01:08:35.238
[SPEAKER_00]: We'll still have the separate segments all around all over YouTube.

01:08:35.558 --> 01:08:38.900
[SPEAKER_00]: They'll still be a Valkyrie's stuff and will your stuff.

01:08:38.920 --> 01:08:40.801
[SPEAKER_00]: But on the actual podcast network,

01:08:41.221 --> 01:08:44.442
[SPEAKER_00]: We are combining the two shows for warriors and valkers.

01:08:44.482 --> 01:08:46.342
[SPEAKER_00]: Just because it's easier for me to produce that way.

01:08:46.522 --> 01:08:47.542
[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll have time stamps.

01:08:47.582 --> 01:08:51.603
[SPEAKER_00]: If you're only interested in the valkry stuff, I'll let you know when that part is.

01:08:51.623 --> 01:08:55.344
[SPEAKER_00]: And if you're only interested in the warriors, I'll let you know where you could fast forward to.

01:08:55.404 --> 01:08:58.225
[SPEAKER_00]: So we're just doing it just for my own process.

01:08:58.265 --> 01:08:59.965
[SPEAKER_00]: It's just going to be easier on me to do it that way.

01:09:00.005 --> 01:09:03.526
[SPEAKER_00]: But we got some really cool new branding, really cool new logos.

01:09:04.046 --> 01:09:07.787
[SPEAKER_00]: I won't announce it until until we do the next show.

01:09:07.867 --> 01:09:08.747
[SPEAKER_00]: It's not a it's not

01:09:09.427 --> 01:09:10.668
[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost all done.

01:09:10.708 --> 01:09:11.549
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to jinx it.

01:09:11.810 --> 01:09:12.911
[SPEAKER_00]: But it's really cool.

01:09:13.391 --> 01:09:14.853
[SPEAKER_00]: I love the way that it came out.

01:09:15.193 --> 01:09:19.258
[SPEAKER_00]: And I will shout out the person who did it in his website when we talk about it.

01:09:19.758 --> 01:09:21.460
[SPEAKER_00]: So lots of stuff coming on this feed.

01:09:21.660 --> 01:09:25.484
[SPEAKER_00]: Even if Brad and I don't do an episode next week, we will still have tons of stuff.

01:09:25.544 --> 01:09:30.289
[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, I will try to find find somebody to come on with us.

01:09:31.531 --> 01:09:32.311
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, everybody.

01:09:32.652 --> 01:09:35.434
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to Rob, who was hanging out in the live stream.

01:09:35.915 --> 01:09:38.657
[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to everybody who's listening on the audio feed.

01:09:39.058 --> 01:09:40.259
[SPEAKER_00]: We appreciate you.

01:09:40.319 --> 01:09:45.844
[SPEAKER_00]: If you can throw that, you know, that five stars on Apple podcasts are on Spotify.

01:09:47.045 --> 01:09:49.588
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, and we will read that on air.

01:09:50.368 --> 01:09:50.989
[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, again,

01:09:52.087 --> 01:09:53.068
[SPEAKER_00]: Not reading the bad ones.

01:09:53.128 --> 01:09:54.609
[SPEAKER_00]: So if you want to write a bad one.

01:09:56.791 --> 01:09:57.731
[SPEAKER_00]: Not reading yours.

01:09:57.952 --> 01:10:00.914
[SPEAKER_01]: Well, maybe we take the, or maybe we take the bad ones.

01:10:00.954 --> 01:10:03.996
[SPEAKER_01]: We throw it into a, I am talking to make it good.

01:10:04.236 --> 01:10:05.477
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they see where we come up.

01:10:07.118 --> 01:10:10.721
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, for Brad, I'm double G. We will see when we see you piece out.

01:10:11.362 --> 01:10:11.602
[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.