The Giants need a big second half to contend, Randy Rodriguez is an All-Star | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_00]: with Drosion, throws to Sandberg and the pitches proud of the second base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thompson has it, throws the first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty seven years of waiting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's up on the pen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we are back with Thompson to Clark discussing the week that was in Giant Space Ball about an hour before the giants play the Philadelphia Philly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just an FYI about when we recorded this, we will not have any analysis predictions or anything about the Philly's game that is about to start in an hour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just an FYI, but we are back in a time where

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of wondering, that was a little worried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, are we really going to look like ass against the Oakland eight here?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we did on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did on Friday, but they were able to bounce back and, you know, we had actually talked to the last week, which was, you know, I said, hey, go to Arizona and split, just split and then sweep the A's and I'll be happy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They did the first part where they split, they won the last two games of the four gamer against the Diamondbacks and then they just look like crap in that first game against against the athletics, but the offense bounces back Saturday and Sunday in the pitching stays stays on it and they do win the last two games that series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they have a winning

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[SPEAKER_00]: a winning week, which is a good thing, but now they have a pretty tough schedule coming up here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right before the All Star Break, Philly's Philly's Dodgers Dodgers Dodgers, two of the best teams in all baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think my question is would you rather end the first half with that stretch of games as a measuring stick to see who you are or would you rather go in and I'm going to throw these names out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but they did a number on us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you rather go into this, you know, finish the first half facing the marlins and the white socks having them done what they did to us and then you go into the break like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now give me like six more games with the A's and I'll be happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it's got to be in Sacramento though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, at the little little man box out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that ballpark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm watching it on TV.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm like, you know, of all the ballpark, so you could have picked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get that it's close to Oakland, but, you know, there are already shunning the Oakland fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, well, they could have stuck in a Memphis for all week air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, who cares at that point?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'm looking at that ballpark and then I'm, and then I go to the Reno Ace's ballpark all the time to play ballpark here, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, I mean, I think it blows away that Sutter Health Park.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I really do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I haven't been to Sutter Health.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't say for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was waiting for the beer batter announcement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was waiting for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I'll remember San Jose Giants games in between Indians, can't remember it was like the third inning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They wheeled out the, it was like an ice cream truck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And somebody from the crowd got to pick a player to throw like three baseballs and try to break one of the headlines.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some good stuff back then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because because we just mentioned it, I was just quickly off tangent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking about this the other day, because every, you know, I don't think people realize how many really good players we were able to see come through San Jose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I remember when I was a kid, a griffy jute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I was a teenager.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Griffy junior comes through for the San Bernardino spirit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's just playing in, you know, it's a griffy junior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the number one prospect in all baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's playing here in San Jose and we're just out there getting autographs with kangaroo junior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's a moment in the game where he's breaking up with double play and just barrel rolls into the giant second basement and then I took his autograph and I scratched it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a lot of great ones to come through is very memorable time as a kid to see like some players who would actually become big leaders like the kids my kids remember this, but we got to see a buster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just go, uh, opo doubles like back to back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just easiest swings ever and just like can't wait for this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was an able, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just can't wait for this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think I saw Lensacom though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure I saw Kane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty sure I saw Madbum, but I don't think I saw Lens come because I don't think it did even go to San Jose area if he did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like a for a very short time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, I don't even think he did and I think he might have done like a rehab assignment and that was the one thing too is in San Jose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got guys coming in for rehab assignments, which was

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because he's close to San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I think Randy Johnson was there for one, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when we were broadcasting games, I mean, I remember the Florida Marlins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have to draft in ninety nine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They draft to Josh Beckett.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we saw as first start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was against San Jose and then we saw Brad Penny for the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So many guys come through trying to think of them on their names, but I can't at the moment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's fun just to kind of be there while the rehab assignments and everything else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we moved out of San Jose in two thousand three, beginning of two thousand three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anything before that, we really didn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, we really didn't have too many like superstars going through there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, through the Giants organization, it wasn't until after that, the building of the championship teams that you guys got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I remember used to take Brian and Jay Jay all the time in those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we used to go there a lot more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's I kind of, you know, it's there and you go, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see this player play and then it's just there's so much stuff to do and then you just don't do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't been there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to say it's probably been a couple years now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we went when remember when who did we draft in the first round, who won the College World Series, will catch what's with Benar?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, we'll bet now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw his first start, which I think was like a two or a three-ending start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brian and myself and his buddy Obina, and then we've got I've seen Luciano play, I've seen Mato's play, but yeah, it's been a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I need to get back there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and then like here in Reno, I talk about all the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like, hey, I'm going to go to some more games and then you just don't get out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: didn't lose the honor go nuts in Reno.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did and I always tell people temporary your expectations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Guys come here and hit home runs because Motto's I'm pretty sure Motto's more than fifty percent and I'm not joking if you look it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: More than fifty percent of his AAA home runs last year weren't in Reno.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he hit something like eleven or twelve here in Reno and he doesn't play for Reno but anytime they pass through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it wasn't bombs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Chapman was here the other night, Matt Chapman on a rehab assignment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hunter Pence was here a few years back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'll lince him pitch for the Salt Lake city bees when he signed with Hannah Hyman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was just trying to get some innings in before he joined a big club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's it's just a minor league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can support a minor league team and you've got a minor league ballpark around you speaking of if you live in West Sack.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could go to minor league ballpark and watch major league teams, which is really weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But shit is it's completely weird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't believe that major league baseball is just okay with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can imagine like, you know, you were in the business of creating new fans and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Majoric base was like oh yeah you can play out of this twelve thousand seat oh yeah minor league ballpark and you know imagine Aaron judge is like I mean maybe maybe for him he's like oh I only have to sneeze and I can hit the ball over the fence here but still it's like you know these guys are used to

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, clubhouse has a locker rooms.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of, it's kind of embarrassing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think for Major League Baseball to allow this to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the frustrating thing too is, you know, they claim it's so hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all three of the games against the A's this weekend were seven or five starts, Friday, Saturday and Sunday, which is super weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then in Reno here, it's hotter, less humidity, no wind yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like ninety three degrees when the games started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they play a four clock game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of our Sunday games are four clock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of our Saturday games are six o'clock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But early in the season, we have one of clock games or whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The whole thing's just kind of, I would imagine, and I know Cole and Alex talked about this today on their podcast that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they go to the players association after this season and they're like hey guys, let's fix some of this move us do something different because how are you gonna play three more years there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a joke it's terrible either either that or major league baseball puts in a

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[SPEAKER_01]: ton of money in the off season in the next two off seasons and make it a major league type of park and then Sacramento can vibe for an expansion team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, if Oakland couldn't hold an expansion team, can Sacramento, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the whole thing's just kind of a mess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we knew that from the start when they said they're going to do all this, we figured how the hell are they going to do all this and can now we see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the speaking of Alex Pavlov, which has got a book coming out to mark like the Wednesday technically, but if you if you preorder it on your Kindle, which is what I like to do, you get it at like Tuesday night at nine PM hour time because it releases at midnight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is that is a book that I'm going to try and get through pretty quickly because

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am a sucker for like my favorite teams and like the history of the organizations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's called the franchise, a curated history of the orange and black.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I can't wait to read that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope it does well for Alex who is doing the rounds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see and talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm looking forward to reading that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's pretty exciting about that is that he's a Cupertino high school grad and just to have a Cupertino high school fellow Cupertino high school grad knowing that we can read and write is pretty awesome.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm happy about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know my my stepkids and their friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of going to Cupertino high school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me a little.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, my stepker are fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But some of these some of their friends are a little interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this was thirty four years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so let's talk a little bit about the news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we just spent the first ten minutes goofing off really for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Eric Miller goes to the deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And whenever you hear like elbow anything, you kind of get worried.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like they are not actually that word right now, at least I read over the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully things are well with him because if they're not well then it's it's all about Luc Casey and they picked up who Scott Alexander they they recently picked up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Miller Miller's even without really his great stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's still pitching pretty well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hope that he gets back and he's healthy and they can get by with, you know, with with the one or two lefty situation like they have, but the big news for the offense at least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Matt Chapman and Casey Schmidt are both back, which means poor Fizzi, who got gifted a home run last night against the athletics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fizzi's back, they love they told them to just stay in sack hang out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You think it was running to the doors of the bus and they just kind of slowly closed it and they're like, I'm sorry to tell you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what's fascinating about this, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with the way that you can send players down and how many times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just so used to this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In other sports, footballs, maybe the hardest one as far as being so cut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can wave players left and right for like almost no reason whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Golden State Valkyries, they had a player who was playing overseas in a special tournament, a special fee but tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she started the season with the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: fan favorite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great attitude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Easy to root for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then she goes to Europe to play in this tournament for Belgium.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They win the actual Euro basket and she's about to come back and when she cuts comes back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They cut her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the the Valkyries very new fan base, obviously the WNBA is a newish league, you know, they have not been around for that long, you know, a nineteen ninety seven or something like that is their first year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the fan base was livid like, how can you have this woman fly back?

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[SPEAKER_00]: all the way, and then when she gets here, then you tell her that she's not on the team anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I get it, like that is that is a cutthroat scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but this is sports, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so for for Fizzi, we kind of joke about it because it's it's just kind of what happens in baseball, but it's got to be disappointing for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was he was expected to be the guy playing second base every day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had that

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he turned into Don Maddingley for like a week last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's crazy bombs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, one thing that we kept on saying last year is like, OK, I like the way he's hitting, but at some point, the second go round, they're going to actually have some some video on him and some footage on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to figure out what his weaknesses are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the differentiation between, you know, who becomes an everyday player and who doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like there's levels to the whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Fizi, I don't know if going to Sacramento is going to help him or if he needs more reps or whatever it is, but it did help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ramos, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ramos had to go through that that period of of up and back and down and not make team out of spring training and and he has become the everyday left field or though if he keeps misplaying balls out there, they may turn them into a d h.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but so, you know, hopefully fits he gets what he needs because I like him on the roster more than some of those other guys because he has the element of speed that those other guys like wisely and costs and Schmidt who who is going to be I imagine is going to be playing a lot of second base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have that, but if you can't hit and you're striking out all the time, then yeah, that's the speed's not really doing much because you're not getting out base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has struck out sixty-two times and two hundred and twenty-two play appearances this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Walked, what does he walked?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fifteen times in those two hundred and twenty-two play appearances.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So those numbers are really skewed poorly for him two twenty-seven batting average.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like you said, if you're not getting on base, he's got nine stolen bases this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, if he's a two eighty hitter who walks more, maybe he's got thirty stolen bases at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's helping the team, but when you're, when your help for the team is speed and you're just not there for that, I mean, it's kind of just an invaluable player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which is unfortunate because we love him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, going in in the offices and we were super excited, you know, that's we talked a lot about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be a big part of this ball club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be the starting second baseman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ty wrote a strata was gone and it was kind of his job to take.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, case you Schmidt stepped in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: showed what he could do in June and when Chapman went down, he kind of won the second base job by playing third base and hitting the crap out of the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, that's just, that's just baseball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have to, you got to put your best nine guys out on the field and you got to put them in a day and a day out because hitting his contagious, winning his contagious and, and

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you can be patient with guys if you're scoring seven eight runs again, but the giants are not that team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The giants are team this course two, three, four runs game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if you've got a guy who could potentially hit the ball of the ballpark and another guy who can't get on base, it's not not at all a difficult decision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was talking to my buddy, who's a Blue Jace fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I looked at, you know, the Blue Jace are actually leading the American, the geese.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're a Blue Jace fan, you're ecstatic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I kind of poured a little cold water on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I didn't do it purposely to ruin their day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I was like, yeah, I was looking at the numbers because I was preparing for this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I was looking at our numbers and I was like, oh, wow, the Blue Jace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the blue jays have scored four hundred and twelve runs and they've given up four hundred runs so they only have a run differential of twelve and so I was saying to him like yeah like

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's great about your team is that you guys score runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The thing that would scare me is that you guys give up a lot of runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he was, you know, because I rained on his parade there a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a little bummed out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then he said, look, you know, I don't like run differential and they gave me the reasons why.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, yeah, that run differential isn't the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll be all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just look at it to see which teams are real to me and which teams aren't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that one gave me a little bit of a pause.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in looking at our run differential, because we are not a plus twelve, we're actually still in the plus thirties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just thought, I was like, you know what, if the pitching ever stops being as good as it is, it's curtains for the giants, because they still can't score any runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was thinking about this because the title on on the slate of this show is a, you know, it's a turnaround coming for for the giants, you know, they, they went through a horrible period and last week, you know, at least they, they were one game, but five hundred for the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they go Dodgers and fillies, which, if, I mean, if we split, if we are

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess you can't split because it's seven games, but if you're four and three, I'm ecstatic, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because those are two really good baseball teams, though the Dodgers did get swept against the Astros.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and then they're losing five nothing last time I looked today to Milwaukee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: love it and it's keep that you know that the Dodgers are are the so I'm kind of when I was doing this exercise I was looking at the teams who had given up at least four hundred runs and who are in in the mix for the playoffs yeah the only two teams who've given up given up more than four hundred runs who are actually contenders the blue jays who are right at four hundred and the Dodgers

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[SPEAKER_00]: the Dodgers are giving up more than four hundred runs except they've also scored five hundred runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why no one is like them in the Cubs are like the two high scoring offenses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, you know, it's an embarrassment of riches and you just kind of hope that there's a small little, you know, chinks in the armor where you can take advantage of it because the Dodgers got swept and we only gained one game over them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Here was my, here was my thought exercise, you know, which was how have the giants fared in the last, uh, so I looked at the last two boaty season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, eighteen and nineteen, I skipped twenty because of the pandemic and I skipped twenty one because that is a complete outlier because they were so good that year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I added, twenty-two, twenty-three, twenty-four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wanted to see where the giants were after a hundred games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now currently right now they're at ninety-one games, so they serve nine more games to get to a hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I wanted to use that sweet spot of a hundred, mostly because it would be easier for me to do math.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, after a hundred games, in twenty-eighteen, they were fifty-one and forty-nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty-nineteen, fifty and fifty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: twenty twenty two forty nine fifty one twenty twenty three fifty four and forty six and that's the biggest heartbreaker of the mall because in twenty twenty three all they had to do

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[SPEAKER_00]: was when third that go thirty one and thirty one to end the season they would have made the playoffs they did not they went twenty five and thirty seven and in twenty twenty four they were forty eight and fifty two at a hundred games and then I looked at how many wins it took to make the third wild card which it's only been in existence for three years prior so we only have three years of data for that eighty nine eighty four and eighty nine

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's say that the giants probably need to be in the high eighties range this year to win one of those three wild card spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what is it gonna take for them to do that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right now they are, what is their record right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Forty nine and forty one I believe is their record.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what do they have to do for the second half of the season?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that they can go five hundred for the rest of the season and expect to be in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they have to play several games above five hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what does that mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, in those five years that I looked at, there were only two of those years where they were even over five hundred for the last sixty-two games of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was CAPS a second to last year, so twenty-twenty-two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were thirty-two and thirty down the stretch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And last year, they were thirty-two and thirty down the stretch for the last sixty-two games of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to guess

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to probably need to win in the range of like, thirty four or thirty five games over those last sixty two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we'll see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming that they will kind of play five hundred for these last five hundred for these last nine games and and kind of be where they are where they're currently eight games about five hundred or seven games about five hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I don't think we're gonna be able to play five hundred ball and that has kind of been the hope that the last couple seasons is like if we play five hundred ball we are in the mix and in the years where they could have played five hundred ball and been in the mix they died they fell off the table and in the years where they needed to play several games above five hundred they were too close to five hundred so I said all of those things to to basically ask you

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think as the team is currently constructed that they are built to go on a run after the all-star break?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think they've only had one winning month so far in the whole season, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is the March April timeframe, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so are they going to be able to reverse trend for July, August, September, which is what it's going to take for them to win one of the three wild card spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's a tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to look at the schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to cheat a little bit by looking at the schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got, you come out of the all star break and you've got teams like the blue jays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We just talked about first place blue jays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Got the braves, the mats who are scuffling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you got the pirates, mats again, pirates again, mats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you don't get back to the nationally west until like mid August and then you got Padres, Rays, Padres, Brewers, Cubs, O's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, looking at, I think this team can, the way it's constructed now, the only thing I worry about and this is funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only thing I worry about is starting pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The way this team is constructed right now, and that's because the giants have two aces, you got Logan Webb, you got Robbie Ray, and then you've got Landon Rube who has never pitched this much, who's also pitching really well

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then after that, you don't have a Kyle Harrison to fall back on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Virlander.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to talk about later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just not Virlander, and he should be in a walker somewhere in the spring around the retirement home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you've just got a bunch of young guys to

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[SPEAKER_01]: to lean on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I mean, as it's constructed now, I can see, I can see the offense catching fire and carrying this team more than I can see the starting pitching being as good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Being as good as they've been and carry this team on their back to the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it all basically banks on the hitting right now, if a healthy Chapman,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Casey Schmidt continues doing what he's doing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Devers gets comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: William Domus is coming around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Elliot Ramos is Ramos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if all those guys are hitting the rest of the season in this nice warm summer air, and you can bust out and finish five games over five hundred because of your offense in the second half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, this is a playoff team, but as it's constructed now, I worry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I didn't answer your question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go with as it's constructed now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, because they need starting, they can end it in another bullpen piece.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know the both of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's your right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I looked at Hayden bird songs numbers for June.

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[SPEAKER_00]: ERA over six for the young bird dog there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's he's struggling hard right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One the game last night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you give up one hit?

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[SPEAKER_01]: One run and walked five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's I mean, you do that against a good team when you're not giving up one run and you're not giving up one hit either probably.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so we'll talk about the Verlander piece a little bit later, but you kind of wonder about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you can they keep running him out there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: to be because he if not you know if that was the Friday game right he he gets hit immediately gives up like quick five and they're with that offense that that's pretty much a signifies that the game is over by the second or third inning and then you have two young pictures were going to be inconsistent more than likely down the stretch so you're banking on web and ray and it is who can they get a third

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[SPEAKER_00]: person now I don't know if you can trade for a third starting pitcher maybe maybe buster is looking for one, but they also need bullpen arms because you're utilizing that bullpen the bullpen has been has been really good and you've had two lights out right handed arms in Randy Rodriguez and Tyler Rogers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Doval I think gives people a nervous stomach there and I think we've all given up on Ryan Walker as far as pitching in close innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you if you can rely on Randy rhetoric, it's who again is only twenty five and you know, they're counting on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He made the all-star team, which we'll talk about in a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tyler Rogers is about as about as trustworthy as you can get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think we probably even take him for granted a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, they're gonna need another left in it arm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about the Miller thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Buster has his work cut out for him because if you ask Giants fans, oh, we need more hitting and I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, if William Domus does break out of this insane slump and Junghulie probably can't get any worse than hitting one, forty, three and June.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like those guys, if they just come back to

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[SPEAKER_00]: average or median, then you're improving the offense there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you get some offense out of Casey Schmidt over Tyler Fitzgerald, you're improving the offense there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so hopefully that that just improves it just by existing and kind of getting back to the middle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I think most Giants fans would say, yeah, we would love another bat, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are so we have a lot of the same types of players sitting there in the middle of the lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could we get more athletic?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is the thing that you and I have been looking at and we kind of we kind of look at the guys who are on the trading block.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not many.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Buster's got his work cut out from because I could say in a perfect world, you get another bat and you get a veteran arm and then you get some left hand left side help in the bullpen, then you're kind of golden, but maybe Buster thinks, well, Viralander is that guy and he's going to bounce back and that's who you're trait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's who you would try to trade for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's lots of interesting things to look at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we're a good, you know, we're only fifty five percent of the way through the season or whatever that number is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's a good sample size to look at and go, okay, are they really that good?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there some smoking mirrors?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, the pitching has been excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would you would like to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buster Chase at a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know who they would be willing to give up and, you know, Bryce Eldridge had been hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Marco Luciano, like we said, kind of caught fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does that mean that he's a tradeable person when I was talking to Jarrett.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jarrett thought Jarrett didn't think that Luciano had much trade value whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Interesting time because.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the all stir break kind of signifies for us like, okay, are we in or we out?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're in, you know, as long as they don't go, oh, and seven against early six against the Philly's Dodgers, I think they're in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if they're in, then we will probably see some pretty fun baseball over the next three months.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the big question is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you kind of look at it and you say this team is a little bit ahead of a rebuild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, not every build.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This team doesn't talk about rebuilds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The San Francisco Giants do not talk about rebuilds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a bad word in the organization.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not who they are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not what they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we know as fans, this was not an expected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't go from five hundred to boom.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're a playoff team because you added William Domus and Justin Verlander.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then all of a sudden, the young guys are just way better than they were last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What we've seen the regression with Tyler Fitzgerald, we just talked about, you've seen the, you know, the same you're getting out of LA at Ramos, which is fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you haven't seen much else anywhere else, and Adamus is finally starting to get fire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to look and say, as Buster Posey does he want to mortgage some of the future, some future pieces,

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[SPEAKER_01]: to go forward and get into the playoffs and then, you know, kind of go from there and see where you're at next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you're ahead of schedule and you think you can afford it and you got devours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I know a lot of people are going to be saying in the offices, what are we going to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who are we going to go get?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got devours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if there's going to be a whole lot of offseason moves after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, maybe you're looking to starting pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you're looking to bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you're looking at, I don't know, first basement, but you got Eldridge coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you're looking at a right fielder because yeah, as is at a contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you're not going to get like a gigantic move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think this offseason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you make that move going to the trade deadline here, even if you

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[SPEAKER_01]: think you're ahead of schedule but you think you can make some noise in the playoffs and not just get in and remember the wild card if you're one of the lower wild cards you go to the other team and you play two out of three in that ballpark on the road two out of three so and with our pitching that's not bad if you line up web and and Robbie Ray that you've got a chance but you really got to think you have more than a chance to get past like the first and second round

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's talk a little bit about the all-star scenario because I think if you look at the three all stars that the giants got, it kind of describes what their season has been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had Logan Webb, Robbie Ray, and Randy Rodriguez all making the all-star team all deserving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rodriguez makes it not even being a closer

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[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of makes you wonder, you should he be the closer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's pitching out, he's pitching eight thinnings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Camila DeVal is still up and down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some situations where he's lights out and there's others where it's like, oh, the same Camila from last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Randy Rodriguez was a quite a surprise and a delight that he made that team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess it's all thanks to this sweeper that Ryan Walker taught him how to throw as to why he they at least he feels like he's been so much better this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, would you think about the whole thing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get to make sense, I guess that, you know, when you're such a bad offensive team, you wouldn't get an offensive ball star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's all pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's still injuries, you know, Corbin Carroll got elected.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he's going to play because he's still not back yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's going to, there's going to be a replacement for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, pictures aren't going to be eligible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's going to be more pictures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just Tyler Rogers get in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope so because I keep talking about I really, really, really want to see Tyler Rogers face the, you know, three, four, five hitters for the American League ball club late in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that'd be pretty fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's kind of what we thought for the most part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we tried to predict all stars earlier in the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we talked about Ramos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about maybe Adamus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So always next year, Adamus, you start out hot and we can get you in the Alistair game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's, and you know, just a quick thing on the closing situation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of hard because you made so many closing, you know, so many clothes or changes since

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ow, I don't know August of last year, August of twenty twenty four, you made the change from doval to walker and then you go into the season with walker and they go walker to doval and doval's the guy and now and then you go doval to Rodriguez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what kind of message is that sending to your bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not quick to stick with one guy to be the closer, but hey, the messages we're trying to win ball games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're trying to throw out the guy who is going to give us the best chance closer to ball game and win this thing and keep us in the hunt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're not doing it,

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[SPEAKER_01]: then you're going to get moved out of that role and somebody else is going to be given that shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But this year, Randy Rodregas in there, I'm anxious to see what type of situation he comes into in the all-star game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be kind of fun to watch the other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Has it last year or the year before?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's two years ago and drove all through, you know, struck out Julio Rodriguez.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and that was, that was a fun app at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I'm hoping to see another one of those.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Weber, Robbie Ray, I don't know if you either want it is going to be eligible, you know how it goes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it sounds like Ray is more than likely not going to be able to pitch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so if you can, if you can lose him and then bring in Tyler Rogers, I mean, the country would go nuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They'd see this guy in there like, what's happening?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we'll never seen him before.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would be fantastic for the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's, and that's what this is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's an exhibition game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's to show, you know, all the quirkiness of baseball, which is super weird game to begin with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'd love to see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But great picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so nice to see three pictures and that's who we are right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about something that we've been doing this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Players of the month,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we've been doing a picture and hitter of the month and also kind of a surprise or unsung person who's been playing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Brad has the hitters this month and I have the picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you take it away for June.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I thought this was going to be tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about this a couple of weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, I mean, our hitters have been doing nothing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to pick a hitter on the month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's gonna have to be the bad boy, but you know and it'll be I went with a guy who really came on then got her I could have gone with another guy who really came on and got her also But I went with Casey Schmidt as our as our hitter of the month for the month of June Casey Schmidt hit three thirty three on the month in twenty games he only played

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think six less games than than anybody else because of the injury and because Chapman got hurt in early June, the case you spent three, thirty three on the month, OPS of over nine fifty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And his walk rate was around ten percent, which is nice to see him get on base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: K rate was pretty normal for the rest of the team, twenty four point six percent did have four home runs, twelve RBI's that's second most on on the month, the the first most on the month was Elliott Ramos, uh, Ramos only hit two forty, though, and his OPS was around, you know, seven, uh, yeah, low seven hundred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Casey Schmidt was the guy and then filling it in the defense also at third base when when we lost Chapman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was nice to have a guy over there who could be, I mean, if he played every day, he could be a potential goal glove third baseman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could be in the running for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if he'd win it, but he could be definitely being running for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he didn't lose a ton of defense over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, nobody is like Chapman, but it wasn't a huge drop off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: as it was when Casey Schmidt went down and we went to Brett wisely and Wilmer Flores at their base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a little bit rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So now that we got Chapman and Schmidt back starting tonight, it's good to have that defense around there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Casey Schmidt is our hitter of the month for June.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll go, I'll go picture like this one was actually really easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's kind of hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of uh, you're just like, do I just pick Logan Webb like every time he's it, man?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's why that's why I did the unsung because we always have a guy who's like, I kind of like this guy and like what he did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you know, it's, I would just like, oh, what did Robbie Ray do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like, nope, it's Logan Web.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was two and one on the month, two, point two, three, ERA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He threw twelve more innings than Robbie Ray did this month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then also he, he threw almost fifteen more innings than the person who was in third for the month with most innings, which was a land group.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, just to guy just battles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The giants have a chance to win every single time he pitches even when he doesn't have his best stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is able to stay competitive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His strikeout rate is still up from what it's been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't walk a ton of guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just give them the ball and you're like great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If Logan's pitching, we got a chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So easy one for me, for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that comes off of the idea that I actually have a really good bullpin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it still was an easy pick for Logan Webb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I'm going to go on song, hitter of the month of June.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be William Domus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know he's doing damage here in July, but it started June tenth in Colorado.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hit the home run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he had a fantastic series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he hasn't cooled down since, even with that though, he's only hitting two, sixteen in the month of June.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he scored fifteen runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's most out of anybody on the club.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's getting on base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a thirteen point two percent walk rate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the best on the team of anybody who's played, you know, twenty plus games in the month of June.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's K rate still.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It hasn't climbed at time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's twenty seven point four percent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's actually come down for more he was earlier in the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As OPS in the month of June was I'm doing math in my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: About about six fifty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then a eleven RBI so he's driving in runs stole a base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm giving him the unsung hitter of the month of June because again, he is the big prize get in the off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The giants really needed him to start hitting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is the raw rock guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is the dugout in the clubhouse guy, but they needed him to be more than, pay him just to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They needed him to be more than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that he is doing that, it really starts to get contagious with the rest of the hitters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you saw what the giants could do once they left Chicago and went into, and to almost set Oakland West Sacramento.

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[SPEAKER_01]: put some runs on the boards and start doing their thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's hope it carries over into this filling and Dodgers series, but that's our unsung hitter of the month of June.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The pitching one for me was it was either going to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rogers or Rodriguez.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, these guys are unsonged by nature because of the innings in which they pitch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't get those safe statistics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't get that big money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in order to get that big money, they do have to become closers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But these guys have been so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would, I was like, oh, I want to see how close was Rogers and Rodriguez.

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of close, but Rodriguez was just that much better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Point eight to ERA in eleven innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only give up six six hits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only give up one earned run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sixteen strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rogers was fourteen point two innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Eight strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gives up a lot of soft contacts of some of those things fall in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but both and you could you couldn't go wrong with either guy but it's got to be rhetoric as he's just been lights out and you know at some point he's not going to be unsung because it's going to be expected especially if he moves into that closer role which more eyeballs on him bigger bullseye on him I'd love to see him get that opportunity maybe it's too early

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if Devol is not consistent enough, why not try the twenty five year old?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He might actually be old within two of all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I actually don't know how old Devol is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're probably close to an age, but why not?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he's been the best guy in the open all year long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You might as well give him a shot or I'd actually be comfortable with Rogers moving into the ninth as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So either either of those guys, I'd be probably a little bit more comfortable than with Devol currently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Randy Rodriguez is twenty five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why does it involve not having age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's ageless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, there we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to hit the more button.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's twenty seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Randy Rodriguez two years younger and you have a vested interest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to see Randy Rodriguez be the closer because you got him on your fantasy team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not just waiting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, wait in the wings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's end this show with the quickest take, which is our new segment where we will throw it up on the YouTube shorts and the Instagram reels of all the socials.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the quickest take for this week is how long do you keep running just in Verlander out there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will let you go first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, honestly, this is between, this is not between us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not our decision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is between two potential Hall of Famers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's between Verlander and Buster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whatever they decide, whatever they talked about in the off season, whatever they decide is what's gonna happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think I don't think Verlander is the type of guy who's gonna sit back and say, hey, go ahead and take me out of the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's somebody else get my shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna keep fighting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you look at,

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[SPEAKER_01]: his baseball savon page and you look at the last time he pitched healthy in twenty twenty three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of red and red is good on baseball savon if you've ever been there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's some blue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of red.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You look at it now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's no red.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's one red off speed run value.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everything else is blue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's coming back around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For me, the experiments over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the big question is, we talked about this earlier, who is gonna take his spot on the rotation right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there isn't anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you trade him to a contender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the giants are contenders right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you move on from Justin Verliner?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It really has to be a mutual decision between him and bus reposing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's going to be a thing this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he a viable number five?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a viable number five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you also have to have a number three and four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can fully rely on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's got to be rooping somebody else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a group, like I said, hasn't pitched as many innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And who's the number four?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's kind of where we're at right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Verlander is going to be with us unless he gets hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's currently hurt, but you know, how it is pictures.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can always be hurt and still keep working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like hats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to, I think he's going to be with us for exactly the reason you said, though, I think a dark horse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if we see Wiz and Hunt come in and pitch some, some middle innings to see just to get his feet wet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you, if you do replace Verlander, it's going to be with another rookie because that's the guy that's kind of waiting in the wings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't want to have three rookies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They can't do the postseasoner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three young pictures like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: what you want is for Verlander to work through whatever the situation is and come out on top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be with us because there's nowhere for him to go and there's nobody waiting in line to replace him unless they are able to make a trade and then you make a smaller trade with Verlander on the side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you make a trade,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it is probably to keep more veteran arms who have had playoff experience on your staff than to have less.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I imagine that whatever this season's going to be for Verlander, we are probably going to see it all the way through as long as he stays healthy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So all right, that is going to be it for me here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So good luck to the team this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to need it Philadelphia and LA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And man, let's hope that the Dodgers can kind of stay in a little bit of a funk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be nice for once for them to be in a funk when we played them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, class now is back, but he pitches tomorrow, which is Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we might see him Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So who knows?

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[SPEAKER_00]: All righty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For Brad, I'm WC when we see you piece out piece.