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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Rod and I are here live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What is it, maybe 20 minutes after the 49ers and bears had a Sunday night shoot out, which leaves the 49ers to play the Seattle Seahawks Saturday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How did we get screwed out of an extra day by having such a fantastic football game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What the heck?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jim, that's going on here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, here you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a week one day shorter rest week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're welcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Niners, uh, you know, that then there's did their part Chicago also did their part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about them because we saw them last year and what a different team this team is versus late

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so the Niners go, hey, we're going to give you guys a game here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have Brock Party doing the Dougie a bunch of times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to let our defense is going to be so bad that Caleb is just going to be firing lasers all over the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's going to be one of the most exciting Sunday night football games in history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the NFL's like, yep, thank you very much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now you have to play in six days.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was that was not fair, but that is the NFL man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are all about the ratings and all about the the big games and they're creating this insane week 18.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in which two games are winner die, I think what is it, Carolina and Tampa and Pittsburgh and Baltimore?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're both winner die games, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you've got um Pittsburgh too on Sunday night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pittsburgh Baltimore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it is what this exactly what the league wants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just think, you know, I, you know, being a nine or fan, I would have liked to see us on Sunday night, but, you know, I guess maybe not two nights, two Sunday nights in a row doesn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want to look on the bright side, we get a marquee matchup Saturday night with, you know, we'll be the only game in town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So has something I guess it's still sucks though with, you know, our injury situation that we get one less day for Trent and George.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, and, you know, to the Trent thing, I didn't even really think about that when I saw the Saturday, I was like, oh, that's one less day for George, but you're right, the Trent Trent trained as hamstring was it like on the first series that they had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was in he didn't play for the rest of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Austin Pleasant's was in the game and we thought maybe that if they lost this game, that people were going to be on the train of blaming him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But thankfully, they won.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They gave him help, but he held up for the most part in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also, Brock's feet helps him out a lot too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here's where I want to start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, okay, so the bears in the Niners just trading touchdowns back and forth back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It literally was, who's going to end up with the ball last?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's what I thought it was going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, Joanne Jennings scores with just over two minutes left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He makes some great cuts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The bears are just tired as all hill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets in the end zone and I looked at the clock and I thought,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what, they scored two early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you think that they scored two early?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's absolutely, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, I thought 2015 was way too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, it's one of those things where I got my brother, he's a bear's fan, so we were watching the game together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's one of those things where you don't want to like, you know, it's easy to set on the couch and say, wait to score.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you score when you can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I did feel like we left them too much time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and we left and it turns out that we left them just enough, just too little time and so and so here's the thing about the whole scenario because the bears I just watched varsity blues the other day and the winning touchdown to get into the playoff and varsity blues is a hook and ladder.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the 500 pound offensive line in Billy Bob is the one who catches the lab or the trucks into the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end of the end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They kind of rushed like, I would like to see how the, how the team react of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was almost like, K, once Caleb threw it, he was probably thinking touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the fact that they didn't score, they get down to, to throw the, to down the ball with four seconds left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it leaves them for one play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: Caleb scrambles to his left and you know the funny thing about those plays, like you think about it and you think that the defense is actually the team that is in the the worst off play, but if you think about how offensive offense is work, because they're so close to the goal line, you only have a small window to actually run your offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when they showed the wide view of the play, I know Collins were thought that maybe there was a guy crossing in the end zone that he could have thrown to, but I feel like I think it was actually D winters who was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like he was sniffing that one out and he probably gets a hand on it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there was a wider stever in the far corner on the opposite side of the field where the miners were just like, you know what, we're only protecting this weak side because of where Caleb rolled out to, but that dude had the arm strength to get that ball over there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just didn't see him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Bryce Huff goes for the sack and he swipes at his feet and he dives.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when he didn't get him, I thought,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a man on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are now playing 10 against 11.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Caleb just could not pull the trigger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he did pull the trigger earlier, I'm not sure that there was anybody opening set for that one person way on the other side of the field, which is just an impossible throw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're basically throwing that thing up for grabs while you're falling down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Based on the way they played defense, I was actually surprised that how well they played some of those downs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They brought past rush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chase Lucas got shaken out of his boots on one play and gave up a big play, but they were

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[SPEAKER_01]: very decisive in their tackling, they were responsible in their coverage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just assumed when Caleb had the ball, I'm like, okay, he's going to throw to the backs a couple times and then he's just going to unleash something down the field and it's going to be money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess the worst play was

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[SPEAKER_01]: poor Luke Gifford in past can all ever trying to cover the tight end, like that was the old, but still, you know, he made that thing could have went for that to the house based on how it left the Caleb's hand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the way they played Defends in that last series, I thought was really strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was maybe the best defense that they played all game long, but I fully did not expect them to stop the bears in any way and they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we, I think we've seen time and time again, the, the deficiencies with the defense have been well chronicle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I won't do that here again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we have seen time and time again that Bob Sala, if you can, if you can take it down to a play by play scenario, he can dial

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[SPEAKER_00]: Please, and get these guys in position, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Make plays, like he said last week, you know, yards, you know, we've long since lost that battle, we're going to give up a ton of yards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just what it's going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we're just trying to turn those touchdowns and the field goes and, you know, get these guys off the field and, you know, on third down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were effective in doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when it was time for them to

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[SPEAKER_00]: they made several plays in that last drive where we hadn't got any kind of pressure at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They went zero blitz and were they lined up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's that going to do zero blitz?

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[SPEAKER_00]: One time they came, one time they dropped out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, he was just making beautiful calls and, you know, we

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pride ourselves is, you know, kind of looking at things in an elevated way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I am one of these jobs, he's the guy that I want if I'm Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, he's a difference maker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is a real difference maker as a coaching as much as a 49er fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love him to stay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But as a person,

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[SPEAKER_00]: as in somebody who sees myself as ambitious, I don't feel like I wanna keep somebody who obviously has ambitions to do that here just for my feel good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, he deserves one of those jobs and I hope he gets it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, what ends up being, with a lot of talk about this game so I don't wanna spend too much labor this,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are several jobs, I believe, that are worthy of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there are a bunch of them that I believe won't be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it, for me, it would be easier to stay who wants to leave one job or so you're saying that if Mark Davis comes over and he's like, yeah, you know, he didn't work out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You think, yeah, solid should run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He should just be like, good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just booking from that meeting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't you don't you don't have you can definitely I would definitely stay to San Francisco 49 is quarter palm coordinator for at least one more year now it's interesting when you hear like rapper for talk about what ideal to stay would look like the first thing is

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you'd be talking about a bunch of guaranteed money, which, you know, it might surprise some people, coordinators usually never have guaranteed contracts, you know, even if they are like, like, solos who at this point, everyone says is at the top of the defense, the defense coordinator,

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[SPEAKER_00]: guarantees for one or two years and then every year no penalty for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: taking a head coach and job again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be, I don't think the giant job I think is a good job, but I think he's probably still radioactive in New York.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I don't see how they could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, like I think he's a good coach, but I just don't see how you could hire him in that market after how the jet scene went.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just think Tennessee is a great job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Atlanta would be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not nearly as good as Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And in everything else,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think you could punt on it because I think he is going to be a hot candidate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's somebody who necessarily has to worry about taking something or his shelf like aspiring, but on at the same token, the other side of me says, he's locked in at the top of the market at defense coordinator, kind of like Josh Medaniel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's failed twice as a hair coach and we see that he's a hell of a maybe he's just a coordinator.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think that that's I don't think that that is solid state but yeah, I I think he and Kyle both have done spectacular jobs this year and as much as I want to see him continue on with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he is able to get him a good team and a good situation, I would be happy for him and root for him the same way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, I know I'm different from 49 fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He root for other teams, yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I root for the meek of Ryan's and I root for Jim Harbaugh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If not when they're playing against 49ers, but like last yesterday was tough for me because I like both those teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So having them, like both those coaches and I like the way they play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, AFC teams, I've really dig those teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, as we've mentioned, Sala needs that head coaching job, whatever the right one is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got men has like a kiss, and on a kiss, man, and you know, and I guess I'm pump a Tennessee Nashville is a family friendly place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could, you know, that's, you know, he, he is deserving this cycle or next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He, I think that we all,

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[SPEAKER_00]: are smart enough to see that that jet situation was a dumpster fire and especially if you if you understand the context that he was a dead man walking after he suggested rightfully sold their Rogers we might bench Rogers which

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[SPEAKER_00]: was not the most ridiculous thing I had ever heard at that particular point in time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was not a very smart stance to take, you know, if you're reading the room and what they had done to get him there in the way it every turn, they were cow-towling to his wishes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was, you know, it is principled as the stand and right as the stand's might have been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was not a very savvy political movement.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, he was gone two weeks later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, it's all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I would like to

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think he deserves another chance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a great coach.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Shelvin, even before we got started, he said, there's a chance for that number when seed still, which is bonkers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is maybe the most surprising thing about this run, which is that when we win the Niners,

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[SPEAKER_01]: When the Niners got brought back and, you know, everything was kind of pushing to this direction of like, you know, they need to make this run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even really see them leapfrogging the Rams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see them leapfrogging Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they haven't yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They haven't, you know, they're right there with those teams, but just the idea that the possibility is there for them to win out and win the division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then would they be the number one seed in the entire NFC, if that happened, mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is, it isn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would get a buy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They would get a buy week, which is crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, this is somebody you're talking to somebody who has spent this in, I probably have not enjoyed this run as much

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[SPEAKER_00]: As I could have because I have been steadfastly talking about the yeah, but like, you know, we've been talking all weekend about all of the, you know, what they've done the past three weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I found it a hard time to like get just when you did it against the grounds, the Titans and of depleted cult, but they played who they.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All they can play is the schedule they were given.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that context matters, but the fact that they keep winning also matters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they kind of balance each other out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just through like shell two shellmen's point, the fact that they are here with all that they've gone through this season

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been waiting for this, you know, this, this care is to turn into a pumpkin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we are, you know, we are six days away, six days and one hour away from them potentially having a buy and playing is many playoff games as they could win at home, which is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: would have thought that after week five when Fred went out and we lost the Tampa, what would I wonder what the odds were on them being the number one scene in the NFC on that day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just it was

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[SPEAKER_00]: completely improbable and it is been it is it's I'm here and I witnessed it I've witnessed the last four weeks and it's still feels improbable, but I you have to give these dudes the benefit of doubt at this point that you know they're not

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[SPEAKER_00]: The best team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're never going to be the most talented team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These aren't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they the statistics are going to look awful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to give up a bunch of points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to give up a bunch of yards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if they can keep it close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We, where I have to trust them at this point that in the same way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Caleb, because I watched them every week too, because my brother, the fan, the way the Caleb got the benefit of the doubt that I just knew that they were going to score because he's done it like five times this season in the last minute moments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It might not be the last moment for the Niners, but they've won these games over and over and over and over again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when I look at the when I do the statistical breakdown and advanced stats on Seattle next week, it's going to tell me that they don't have a chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My lived experience tells me that there's something going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's an alchemy happening between Kyle and the offense and solid in the defense that you're not going to be able to quantify on a spreadsheet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a belief that they have there, you know, you start talking about that, you know, who who stuff that I don't really feel comfortable with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We start talking about belief and, you know, galvanizing and all of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the some tonight, the some was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was greater than its component parts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what we're dealing with.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they are 60 minutes away, which is bonkers is a great word.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you looked at the point spread?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you think the point spread is without looking?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Niners by three?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking two and a half or three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The nages are favored by four and a half points at home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Number probably comes down because I think like you said, people are going to start doing their research and actually see how good Seattle is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there is also a, we don't really believe in Sam Darnold community here that, oh yeah, it's very strong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, all right, I wanted to start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, because just kind of what you were saying here with the Chanahin and the offense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I Don't want to overstate how Brockford he's playing right now But in my vision This might be the best I've ever seen him with the weapons he is working with

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I want to say, and maybe this is just, you know, just because I swatched this game right now, and he's, you know, running, uh, option plays in the end zone, but I, I feel like this might be the best that he's ever played and ever run this offense right now the way that he's playing football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can't, and I spent last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: knocking down the fact that, you know, the coast didn't have any corners, which makes a difference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you watch that coast game today and they didn't have moony seal, but they had sauce and it completely changes their cover schemes when they can just leave that guy over there and then the other debris can do whatever they're doing on one side of the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that matters, but that being said,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are NFL players who got direct deposits last week too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, while they nested my nested nested, they've been in the team that they were all season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's legit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The bears, again, are legitimate team, and he is on fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like you say, this is by I would say I'd venture to say,

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[SPEAKER_00]: easily even in a cool last year because this is by far the leastality team that he has worked with and he looks at his best and like Collins was said that he said in their interviews Kyle is on fire calling these games and he's giving him

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's giving him great place to make and he's making them and he is whoever you don't do doesn't even matter who's out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's making plays with Robinson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's making plays with born.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Guys who are journeymen, you know, Joanne is third in Joanne, but he's not a number one receiver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ricky looks good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm not saying all of this to diminish the talents of the guys

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[SPEAKER_00]: Debo I you can kiddo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're just not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, so that it is no disrespect, you know, when I was, you know, Jake time just great guy, Cal guy, Bay Area guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm rooting for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is not an all pro and Hall of Famer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're going to miss George kiddo, but it's I don't feel like I'm

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shitting on Jake times just to say I would rather have chores.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if I was given a choice, I'd rather have George Kittle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd rather have all the famous, rather have the whole pro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he had a great game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so the point is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Brock has taken his game to another level, and there's, you know, there is a calmness about him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is, you know, there's a sweater about him that he's always had, but it, it is tempered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think he is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: As a vet now, he is not, he is not, he's just, you know, it's dumb to say it that way, but he's not a rookie anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a young player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is far removed from Mr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Relevant, it's just what I think we're at the point where we can put

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[SPEAKER_00]: that narrative too bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he is a very good NFL quarterback and I agree 100% he is playing the best that we have seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has taken his game to another level and this is somebody who was led a team to a Super Bowl and he's playing

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's controversial to say he's paying better this year than he played in 23.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't really think it's close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is playing really special.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was having conversation with the Bears buddy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He also does content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's also on some podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will not name his name because this is just in text and we're talking about our teams

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock went to Iowa State.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was talking massive a little bit of mess about Brock just say you I don't like Iowa State guys and he's saying you know Brock is the best system quarterback going and I thought about that for second because a lot of the credit

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[SPEAKER_01]: is going to go to Shanahan for creating the system and that is some of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Shanahan is also very hard on his cubies and in their decision making.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to me, Brock is a processing quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is what sets him up to be as good as he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what changes his level and how good he can be because of his ability to process downfield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the flip side of watching Caleb who that dude has every tool in the book and Ben Johnson as long as Ben Johnson and Caleb are a tandem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Caleb's going to be really special as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you could sort of see the difference in the way that both of those cubies kind of process because Brock has had

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how many snaps he's had in the NFL, but he's had those extra snaps in those playoff games and this is Caleb second season and already in Caleb second season and like I can see it like as long as this dude stays on point he's going to be awesome he's exactly

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[SPEAKER_01]: where that, you know, his, his apex is like the Josh Allen and Drake may level just based on his level of talent does he get there, you know, but very few get there, but he's got that opportunity to do so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what Brock is doing is is is impressive because he is able to play at the level of those guys who are just way more talented than he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's able to make plays, he's able to run that offense, you know, even last week when we were talking about how good he played against Colts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's Shenahan, you know, what do you think about Brock is like, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about a couple of throws that he missed, but other than that, he played awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's always kind of, you know, and that's the thing he's got a accountable, but the thing that I think is special about Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I just, I hesitate when people talk about Italy because I just don't,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's not a slight, it's not a slight to say somebody's not elite, I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I think he, his, his traits are limited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he has, he has a, a lower ceiling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, if you compare some, we can make just tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he has a lower ceiling than Caleb.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because Caleb is just,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's one of these fast and his arm is crazy, but Brock out dualed him today because he processes at a very, very high level.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what I think separates him for somebody like Jimmy who did a really good job in this offense or to hear to hear to four has been the goal standard in this offense Matt Ryan or Kurt Cousins

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[SPEAKER_00]: while he is able to process, he is also able to play out of structure in a way that those two guys really don't really have any interest in doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They, and which is at the time,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was coaching them was why Kyle liked them so much is they did not color outside of the lines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gave them the play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he, they would execute the play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock is going to get out of the pocket and he is going to challenge the defense and he is going to make throws that are going to make Kyle come over to him and whisper in his ear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We like a first one of the game today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, yeah, so that's going to happen, but I think that's what lifts the ceiling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we got to a point with Jimmy, I've softened on Jimmy in the years that have gone by.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that that was that he got the most out of what he could give us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have that extra to give that Brock does.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't going to out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He wasn't going to operate outside of the pocket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was not going to challenge the defense 15 yards down field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just wasn't going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Brock is not scared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's one thing I have always noticed about that dude from jump is that

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[SPEAKER_00]: for whatever it is, and then I had an old car.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was state fan, tell me that too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It brought out a little yellow, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you can see it, he is not full of me on these commercials with that all-shucks, Richie Cunningham shit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That dude is like, yeah, the CMC commercial was making me laugh a little bit more with him and say, Juan, and say, Juan, calling him like a quick kiss and up to the rest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that thought that was pretty funny.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But okay, so I don't really go out on limbs about this team about any of my sports teams really, you know, I think this, I think the 73 win, win warrior scared me and going out on limbs because they were the best team I think I've ever seen and they lose in the NBA finals, this is not even really a prediction, but I think Brockford is playing at a level where

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[SPEAKER_01]: he could he could win a Super Bowl with this football team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he would have to play kind of like he's played these last two weeks throughout the tournament because what we also saw

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[SPEAKER_01]: was a a defense that is just not talented enough to play with some of these other teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is kind of what we were talking about last week, which is if the 49ers are going to go far in the playoffs, they're going to have to do it while winning shootouts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was yeah, that was kind of the the preview was tonight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they stood total, we should cargo, and they each other, they matched touchdowns until the 49ers blinked and had to punt and then Chicago kicked the field goal, which was kind of like a blink too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then the Niners scored the last touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the last two drives of the game were the Niners holding to a field goal and then the, you know, the four, four and out to end the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that, you know, they stepped it up in in those moments, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there are some teams where, I mean, think about Stafford and the Rams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's kind of what I was thinking about and I was watching the defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, we cannot punt against some of these teams if we expect to win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: However, if for whatever reason the defense is able to turn, turn around a little bit, I do think Brock is playing at a level in which he could actually win the Super Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how good I, my eyes are, are seeing him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I 100% agree my only thought is like you say is with

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[SPEAKER_00]: This defense, and we've seen that show we saw with the Rams with that look like with them just barbecue in our secondary and it's it's a different deal with these it starts next week honestly because while same-darnal is same-darnal they have a commitment to running the game running the ball which I

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to make it my business to figure out what the hell solos doing formation wise that is discouraging these teams to run the ball because.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was saying it all throughout the bear game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I know about this team is if you just keep pounding the ball, we are not gonna be able to hold up down in and down out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there is something that they are showing them that makes them

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[SPEAKER_00]: decide to pass it and you know, kudos to him for doing it, but anytime anybody commits to running the ball, it is attract me because we are just not good at defending the run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good advanced at say it, the tape says it, but there is something that he is doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: wander or spell that he's cast in some voodoo that he's using that is keeping these teams from doing it and God bless them because it is it is a huge it makes it a lot easier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for him to scheme it up against the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it is to try to mount up to stop the run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That it's going to be interesting to see what happened up to stop because again, he's another guy who his stats aren't great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's always around the ball and he's always seems to make the timely play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was interesting that

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[SPEAKER_00]: That while he got worked a couple of times Chase Lucas who was our was a preseason garling because of the place he was making he made a couple of plays tonight and yeah so that it's going to be interesting again here we go is just like that just seems I guess maybe that is that's every team but why are we always it seems like we're always it's always entry talk with us and you would you would my hope was that it would kind of ease up

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it would, you know, you talk about like a regression to the mean type situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We lost so much early that we would, you know, get the benefit of the doubt and maybe get some injury look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: down the stretch, but that does not seem to be the case, because, you know, like you say, he helped up pretty well against the bears, but they are just a little better than us rushing to pass her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not want any part of Anthony Clessons with that Seattle flag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is just a recipe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's not enough help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They need a 12 player out there to help him block those dudes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's

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[SPEAKER_00]: Trent can go even if it's, you know, we, but we found ourselves in that position, you know, against the Rams in the NFC Championship game where the hobo Trent, you know, we, you look back in hindsight and saying, maybe Jay Lamore would have gave us a better chance, because he was just, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So far gone at that point you was just it might have been a liability and that you know the way he he did not look good When he was You know, crunching around there on the sidelines, but hopefully we got six days only six days And hopefully he can get in a hyperbaric chamber Creek let him use his hyperbaric chamber and he can he can get you back to hell I don't know

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe your input is lagging there and get some kind of benefit from it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: CMC had his best rushing game of the season, I think, 6.1 yards per carry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked fast and fresh, but we also know he's kind of had this issue with his back and late in the game, he saw him on the sidelines like in planks and stuff like trying to

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's another one for six days, you know, this guy's got to get better by Saturday night to play another football game and how many touches you have today like 30 or something like yeah and they used him so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, he's peaking at the right time, but you also do worry about the wear and tear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brian Robinson has played very well as his backup, but part of that is he does not have to play very much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when he's in there, he's completely fresh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he has to play a little bit more, he's not going to have that like explosiveness coming off of the bench just because he'll he'll be on the field more so I don't that that's one that worries me as much as kiddo worries me as much as big Trent worries me you're talking about the guy who Kyle

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[SPEAKER_01]: trust with the football more than anybody else in that guy has I think he went over 400 touches for the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that true?

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's like it's really close to that and we know that that special 400 number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's that's one I'm worried about for Saturday at CMC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's um you know we've been having this

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, it's, it's, it's noticeable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The different, the dropoff is noticeable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One because he just flat out does not give you very much in the past game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not, they don't really, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: it's going to be a play action to him or they're going to hand in the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not a threat as a receiver at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I believe that if you're going to like if there's ever going to be a legitimate one A to Christian, that player has to play both ways so that it's not like an obvious

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[SPEAKER_00]: running back tandem where that was just the case where when this guy was in, when when the thunder back was in, he was getting the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was they're going to hand him the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if the lightning back is in there, they're going to pass in the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those aren't effective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're going to have somebody who is going to, that's what I've said all the long about them trading J.P.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they were really serious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, he wasn't as good a receiver as Christian

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, her tailing Christian's usage, he's keep him and allow, you don't bring in Brian Robinson, Brian Robinson is not the type of player who is going to be a, um, who's going to take usage away from Christian McAfee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know who that player is because number one, he doesn't want to come out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so that's going to be interesting moving forward because as he gets older, it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked talk to on prime time games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You saw Derek Henry yesterday, that 32 and still looks amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's overblown how we, you know, I think the numbers that we have, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: become accustomed to like that number and running back 30 has always been the number that the decline has been precipitous at 30.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't know if you know in every case is different, but I think especially when you're talking about top tier,

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[SPEAKER_00]: elite top of the food chain players like a dairy canry or a Christian McAfrey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know that you're going to be able, that they're going to fit into that little box.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like you say before the carry thing is that's a real thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not that's not something that you can

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[SPEAKER_00]: It might not, it might not show up this year, but, you know, say Kwan Barkley, you know, if you want empirical data, he has definitely not had as good a year as he had the year before, and a lot of people will contribute to all the carries that he had this even season previous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: all of a sudden there's this word that he may have a similar issue with his uh... with his the Achilles with the bilateral ten and i'd like that member there was like a scare like the saturday before the game or something where they were like up he's shown he's shown up in the injury report again and he hasn't he hasn't missed like he's been there every single game and he's just been it is not his best season by the way

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a very rugged season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been a very fight through everything possible season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has been a tough as hell season for him and that's that's what he's showing more to me than anything else is just this toughness that he has that he probably has never gotten Really that much credit for because he's been injured before but there's he's just so tough this year he's he's probably the reason If you were to put it on one player

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[SPEAKER_01]: to keep the Niners kind of just in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was him because he was doing something like Matt, I mean, I just go back to some of these Matt games like Mac sees in his peripheral like the the possibility of a past Russia sneaking around the corner and it's dumping off to CMC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he's not even taking the chance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's Christians there, I'm throwing it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was a lot of the

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[SPEAKER_01]: that he's the use of just so high.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And in week 17, he's having a game like this was just tremendous tremendous player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just been awesome to watch him over these last few years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So as we get ready to shut this thing down, I actually have another podcast to do here in a few

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[SPEAKER_01]: we beat them all the way back in game one and it was kind of one of those games where

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[SPEAKER_01]: would not have been surprised if they lost that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yet they, they, they eaked it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, both teams, I feel are a lot different than they were in week one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, detrimentally, the Niners defense is not what it was in week one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, offensively, they are probably a little bit better than they were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know Brock was better because Brock was not fantastic in that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very interested in what kind of looks they're going to give Sam because they know Sam very well that he's he's been in he he's been thrown passes to their defense so do you think the Niners are going to give Seattle the A1

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[SPEAKER_01]: defensive look.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it is a you win this game and you you sit on the throne.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You lose this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even look to see what the wild card situation is if they're five or six or can they still finish seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't looked that far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the difference between a win and a loss in this game is bigger than than anything that I can imagine when it comes to playoffs just this one game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how do you think they're going to play this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, first of all, I have watched that week one game and neither one of these teams look anything like they do now, which makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're talking about 16 weeks later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just so I don't think we're not going to be able to

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that tape really doesn't do any of it, either one of those teams, any good, because they're way better than they were then, and we are different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would say definitely, offensively, much better than we were then, they clearly have,

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[SPEAKER_00]: their identity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And your job is to stop us from getting the ball to Christian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just when you start to, then when you start to just figure or structurally break your defense to do so, Brock is comfortable running the ball, Brock is comfortable with throwing it to other targets

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just going to bracket Christian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to put three guys on him and you just got, you're going to have to figure out somewhere else to go with the ball and he's like cool, okay, we'll just throw out the challenges and we'll just throw it to Robinson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or you know, so that is the level that you were talking about with Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that's what it's going to have to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the challenge

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[SPEAKER_00]: they are a really, really good defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just, I don't see how we score 30 points against them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we just might have to because I don't know how we're going to stop JSN or that offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the recipe, I think you said it earlier, is what is going to have to be running shoot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to have to win shoot outs throughout.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to get with these teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'm just restating the point you made earlier, is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: As we move along, the opponents are only getting harder and harder, and they aren't going to have these glaring weaknesses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to be better teams, and the question is going to be how do our coaches figure out ways to keep us in these games so that

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[SPEAKER_00]: we can kind of steal them at the end like we did today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did it on all, we did it several times this season on defense and on offense, but my concern is that you get a group with these better teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You end up getting a game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was what my concern was with this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we do that pick quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like oh shit, here we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to go out 14 or 21 points and you know, then it's,

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[SPEAKER_00]: playing when you're this type of team and you're trying to play from behind.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need it to stay close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we need to get up and be able to let Brock just play free and just let you know you're running and gun it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We like the 89 running rebels.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're trying to go out there and we're trying to put up

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what we're going to say, Houston Oilers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're trying to, yeah, we can go that's probably better and now we're trying to light up the scoreboard, baby.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's where we find ourselves at the end of 2025 going into 2026.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, I'm kind of here for you know, we have all of our

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[SPEAKER_00]: That has been, you know, that's something that really for all the, that has really been the hallmark all the way back to the dynasty is Great defense has always been like our cornerstone, you know, we all Joe is the go and we all

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[SPEAKER_00]: love and talk about Joe, but those of us who are there know that if the defense is so we're subpar, we didn't, I mean, never season's where, you know, we would win 10 games and it would be one or two playoff wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We weren't didn't even sniff a championship, but all of those great teams, the hallmark of those, those are some fascinating barroom conversation

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[SPEAKER_00]: 88, 89.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a soft spot for the 81 team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, um, you know, yeah, 84 and then the teams that didn't win like the Harboa, Harboa's teams, their defense was delicious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to see the best of all this myth and cowboy at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to see Patrick Willis and

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like at the last place, the last series of this game, Salah is out here making it do what it do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, that it's beautiful to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not going to claim to be able to break it down what him and Kyle are doing on a plate of play basis, but I know enough to know that there is some real coaching going on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with them because the talent is just we've we've seen more talent to teams here and but they they are this is this is going to go down is one of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it's going to be one of the best season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's high hyperbolic, but it is going to be one of the most memorable seasons based on all of the, you know, when you put it all in context being 12 and 4 going into last game of the season with a shot at the number one seed is I'm just going to keep using shelvings, bonkers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: it is unbelievable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is, it's, it's, and I need to, I'm going to try to enjoy it a little more and stop waiting for the other shooter drop as everybody's asking me what I think their chances are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I keep going back to conversations we had in the middle of the season where we're like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: they're going to compete, but they just don't have the talent with the injuries and even my wife tonight said, you know, do you think they have a chance?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, not really, but, you know, they're playing well enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The one thing that I'm kind of waiting for, and this is where we kind of look towards Saturdays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I think it happened when we saw them play the Rams, which is we're able to hang around, hang around and beat some of these average teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the team with a lot more talent than us just kind of put their foot down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, no, sorry guys, like this is not happening today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That that's what I worry about with Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I worry about in the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the way that their offense is playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they're going to go backwards like they did in that Rams game because the offense is cooking enough right now to where they're going to be competitive no matter what and that's going to be a fun to see and we'll be back on Saturday

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, under we'll have a bigger understanding of what that playoff bracket looks like Saturday night for the 49ers at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It will we'll we'll know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they win, we'll know that they're the one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they lose, then we'll know based on some of these other games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's going to happen and where they could fall possibly so we did not have enough time after this game to even kind of look at that stuff, but we'll have that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody who's paying attention will we'll be looking at that stuff too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so yeah, we'll be back next Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for Rod, I'm double G, thanks to Shelvin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My buddy, Brian Ruano, and MD-DZ, who only came in to say that we're going to lose in a wild card, and him Lobo, who wanted to shout out Perty thought we were even being a slightly little negative on Perty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, no, I was just love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just love on Brock right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you to all you folks, I'm WG, peace out.