Moses Moody’s Next Level: Can Young Warriors Save the Season? Plus Unrivaled & Project B | Golden State Hoop

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are back with our combination podcast of Warriors and Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the death line up and pot hola put together all in one package called golden state hoop, Brian and I are going to talk about some of the road woes for the warriors, including, uh, I don't even know if that was necessarily the greatest NBA basketball game against the kings considering all the players who were out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Imagine if you're a kid and your parents get

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the warriors bring you a roster where Steph Curry, Dremon Green, Jimmy Butler, just don't play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just that sad times, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, I mean, yeah, and even from the other side, it's everyone missing, too, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just no, no, no, no, so bonus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a, it's definitely, I imagine it's, you know, not the cheapest ticket if you buy it ahead of time and Steph Curry's

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you remember the one time that happened to us?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not with Steph but with LeBron.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still have my life because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had bought tickets on New Year's Day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: StubHub had a sale of some sort.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I bought tickets for us to see the calves come into town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the time that LeBron just decided to take it two week vacation during the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, I'm burnt out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm taking these two weeks off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the warriors killed the calves.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember the Kyrie was there and Kevin Love was there, but they killed him was that the same you of Steph's shoes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we got to see the very first Steph Curry shoe that was that's that was pretty memorable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, and we're also going to talk about we're going to go over some of these young players and how they're doing, because I think I think the season is going to kind of be like this where you're just going to see the older guys take some breaks and it's going to be up to the young guys to keep up with the other teams here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be a great opportunity for Brandon Pajimski and

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jonathan Komingo, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like there's these guys want the minutes and they want the opportunities to score the ball and everything so there'll be moments like that for them yesterday wasn't the the best showcase for that and then we're going to talk about the WMBA side is a little bit kind of in in a hold position with the CBA they did extend it talk about that

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk a little bit about unrivaled and the Valkyries players who are on the teams and unrivaled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have some new teams there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's this new league called Project B and they have their first player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure there'll be, I'm sure very similar to unrivaled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There will be some scenarios where some Valkyries players are probably going to get picked up for that league as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what else did I have on the docket here that I wanted to mention?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, and then we'll talk about our college basketball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: women's college basketball picks for the championship.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if there are really that teams to choose from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like as far as like there's there's two teams that seem to be quite a bit ahead of the other.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see if anyone zags on their predictions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I guess we'll kick it off with with some warriors talk here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's bring on the death lineup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was all good just a week ago because when we last recorded, we were thinking that, uh, you know, the season might be a little different in the way that they approach some of these games, the warriors, you know, they'd beat some pretty good teams and then they go on the road and they lose to a jannisless Milwaukee bucks and then they lose to a

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[SPEAKER_01]: very young Indiana Pacers team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were players on that Pacers team that I did not even really know existed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still don't know him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they did win one coming back and then they lost yesterday in Sacramento.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So not the best last week for the Warriors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know what I realized.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was during the the bucks game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just realized you know what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know how the giants go 81 and 81 every single year until they don't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are you about to say this is going to be one of those years?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The warriors are going to win in 48 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's just where they're going to be at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to be like a top 2 or top 3 seed and surprises by winning 55 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be in that 5, 6, 7 slot there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If their stars are off, there's nobody that pick up the slack, which is what I think we wanted to see from Pajim skiing, Kominga.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm just, you know, of all the people who's picking up the slack, it's like Moses Moody and Will Richard, who are not the ones that you thought of.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that, yeah, that's just kind of what I thought was like, up 48 wins here we come, 48 and 34.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what this team is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you buy into it all of that narrative going around that Adam Silver hates the warriors in this terrible scheduling at the beginning because I think there was a Fred L quote that came out where he was like for all the fans who like want to say that the sky is falling like this was a really I've all my years covering the league like this was a really weird schedule to start the year you know you that multiple back to backs these weird two game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on the road from Milwaukee to Indiana back to there was just and then you have a then it's a back to back like you put any stock in the letter so okay and it's going to even out right like there's going to be a time in the season where they don't have these back to backs because you can there's you can only have a maximum right so I if you're talking to me

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have this old team, and they are not injured yet, I would prefer to have them earlier in the season than later in the season when you don't know when these guys are, if they're going to be hurt or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like the warriors are at full speed, I guess Jimmy is, he tweak something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's questionable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you'd rather have them, when your team is healthy, then into the unknown when you're not sure if they're healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't necessarily see why that's a negative unless and I haven't looked at the schedule unless the warriors just have more back to backs than everybody else, but I don't think that's the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I haven't checked either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree with that though, um, you know, get these out of the way earlier, but then that's kind of like a, are they a 481 team if you get these out of the way earlier?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like is there still a chance for a foreseed or will the foreseed still be 48 games?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it Phoenix sack and then we'll who puts the next one do you know what they play next I think it was maybe a tougher one again Yeah, they're next four games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, who's the next one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: the nuggets okay okay so when we talked about it last week i had i was like foreign one baby like foreign one looks good here and you kind of zagged and you were like i don't know it maybe two and three would be nice and it was interesting because it was coming off of what looked to be like a really strong opening start from these guys and you see mowalkie and it's like yannas isn't playing and then you know all in the text chats that with warriors fans like well now i'm even more worried than when yannas was playing because you know

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, get it, get pumped and get up for, you know, to to play and Ryan Rollins cooked them and kind of a fourth quarter collapse and then Indiana comes around and it's similarly a fourth quarter collapse, like I think for both Milwaukee and Indiana, they led the game in three quarters out of the four and I think the the collapse was in the fourth quarter for each of those games and what did what team did that look like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to that Boyer's team look that look like the CP3 Warriors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, it looked like last year too, like they play well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then down the stretch, when Steph is not in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, honestly, this was stuff in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he had played well in those games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was he and who knows he made.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's dealing with this illness now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could have started at that point, you know, you don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to make an excuse, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that is, that is who they were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is what Jimmy is supposed to fix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I thought Jimmy's, I actually didn't look at the box, but I remember when I was watching those games, I thought he played like good, you know, doing like the right stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a couple where it's like, in during on the Indiana game, I think it was that he has a drive to the basket, and he does the Jimmy thing and passes out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like through those two points that might be the swing of the game right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I honestly like I just looked at I pulled up the stats before we started just like the overall total plus minus and I was like there's no way like the algorithm for fit just has not looked right yet and I pull it up Alhorford 13 out of 14 in terms of like course plus minus and overall is minus 37 surprisingly will Richard is minus 44 so that obviously shows you like the stat isn't perfect because we'll Richard has felt like a plus in general like just whenever he's available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But al minus 37 and that kind of feels on point like not necessarily al's fault, but that Milwaukee game, you know, they killed them down the stretch in the drop coverage and in the Indiana game, it was a similar thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was the drop coverage, but you know, they try to do the lineup of stuff Jimmy J. J. K. Al.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to close the game, and it quickly showed that it wasn't working, so they pulled Al for Pajemski to close the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if, you know, maybe at the five minute mark or the three minute mark, like it looked like that was supposed to be the closing lineup, and then they pulled Al because it was a quick run for Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that hasn't been working as much as I would have thought it would have seamlessly worked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, with the al-dramon pairing, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that just seems like it would be perfect.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two smart basketball players, two smart defenders, one can shoot, one can pass the boat like it just seems like it would work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like it has not yet, um, even that, that, I mean, that, that Phoenix game, it seemed like, you know, when you get the Jimmy is not returning notification,

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then you start to see them come back into the game and like the fourth quarter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the earth third quarter like I thought that that could end up being a game and then they do a weird rotation where Steph starts the fourth and gets pulled out and then it goes back in and there there was a chance that you know I felt like that one could have gone the wrong way and then they end up putting them away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, in the Sacramento one, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's like, okay, throw away game, no stuff, no Jimmy, no Dream on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But on the King side, you know, you're missing Levine, you're missing Sabones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, wait a second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's maybe you should win this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, Russell, just the most excited guy playing the hardest out of everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a total Russell Westbrook games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: had the writing on the wall and everything for us, but still like, okay, Kominga, you got your money, you, this is your opportunity to kind of show us, I thought he played really bad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was not impressed for one second.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, your Twitter is really on him about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're down three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He gets to them lay up that he missed or the it's going to lane and what he was actually doing is he was anticipating what the defense was going to do rather than reacting to the moment because he figured he was he set up the move.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to set up a fade away, but the defender slipped or something, just out of the play completely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So all he had to do is take one step to the to the bucket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He would have to lay up or dunk, then he took a peek because he set it up that way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He takes a fade with nobody guarding him and he missed him and he immediately realized that because he went and attacked the offensive rebound.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just didn't get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He, uh, he has very much tried to fit into the flow of the offense,

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[SPEAKER_01]: these last few games where they may have needed him most have been his worst ones.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so those of us who were on the, oh man, maybe we don't have to trade this guy and maybe he's the, you know, he's he's the guy who, who they actually need if he plays like this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's exactly who they need.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think people have slowed down on that train because he has, he has just turned them all over a lot and you know, the one thing JJ and I were talking about this last night,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does he have the worst gather of all time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like he gathers and it seems like he loses the ball, like 50% of the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he has that long gather and he either slips out of his hands or they rake it from him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's also it's also always a foul, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's always a foul.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're at right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and this is not a let's let's be mean to JK because I don't think he's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yesterday it was just the opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's he and pods together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you guys want it now here now the vets are out and you know stuff and and dream on the next time they have to talk to those guys they're like you had the opportunity like this is you know this is not easy this is hard you want to you know you want to be the next guy after staff well you know when he's not in you have to play a little bit better

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but I mean, it, you know, there's no the sky is falling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The sky is falling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, it's still so early in the season, but they do have a rough up and coming schedule.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, they play dead, they're going to get smoked in Denver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, tomorrow because there's going to be no staff and possibly no Jimmy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if there's no staff and there's no Jimmy, you might as well not even play drama.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be useless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to pick up technicals and he may even get kicked out of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You might as well just bench him too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then and then you have the Pacers who they really need to kind of get a little bit of a revenge game on Pacers come to town on Sunday evening kind of an early evening game and then you go into Oklahoma City they've only lost one game all season and it took kind of a miracle kind of win there for Portland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Wemby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it's just, you know, you play Wemby back to back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you will get a little bit of a gift with the Pelicans a week from Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like these next, you know, you've already lost the Pacers and then spurs thunder, nuggets spurs like, I don't know, if they go 500 in that series, you know, that's probably pretty impressive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, it's going to be one of those things where

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is kind of like what the what the 49ers did is they got these early wins and now they have a little bit of a cushion so if they lose a couple of games are like okay you're still in good standing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The warriors, the easy games for the warriors to win were Milwaukee and Indiana, which would have given them cushion to not have a great week this week, and they went out and lost all those games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I mean, that you're right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that is the last your warriors, but I think the last your warriors would also come close to winning out like that back to back in Oklahoma City and San Antonio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like, it seems like an impossible feat, and then it's like, oh wait, they actually did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then, you know, if it was followed by bad teams again, they would lose to the bad teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I mean, yeah, the Niners built the cushion, the warriors kind of at the start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they looked really good at the start, but I mean, there's some things like, I think they have to be like a foreseed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, just on what, you know, my eyes told me to start the year is that they look

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[SPEAKER_00]: legit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they need to still work on, of course, work on a ton of things within the squad, working in Al Horford.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Think there's, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have questions about, um, about Kominga.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think there were still moments where, you know, you start to remember a little bit of why he's, you see him play so well in the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like, oh, wow, like he's the, you know, this is exactly what they need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you start to see a few bad games and you start to remember

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he may be he got pulled in moments and replaced with some other guys and that being you know obvious screen for stuff and then he gets the ball and he holds it for three seconds right like it's supposed to be like this point five second point five basketball where the balls swinging around you know you kind of are already thinking ahead of the possession of like you get the ball you already kind of know what you're doing with it like with him it's kind of like catch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: two to three seconds of processing and then next next next move whether it's a past or go for your shot and I think that frustrates them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw Steph get a little frustrated on just like a missed you know like dude I'm going to the corner here like set me a screen or you're going to give me the ball and neither happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's definitely something I'm going to continue to keep an eye on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah I just thought that was a moment

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought Schroeder got into his head a little bit too, and then someone pulled the chair on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Schroeder pulled the chair on him, and it was just like he just was about the tumble that the ground, and then yeah, I am being harder on him than I said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I am pods, but you know, we I expect more from Kominga and pods hasn't gone to to shams and to say like I should be a number one, you know, he has said he wants the

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't take them seriously at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe that should happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he sees it's like a confident young player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you do put that stuff knowing who you're talking to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're gonna, you know the, where that article's getting posted.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he did that purposely, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a specific thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what I wanted to do, because what you just said about Caminga, you know who's not doing that, who's not hesitating and who's being really decisive is Moses Moody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mosmoody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, you were talking about sort of like, if the plus minus lies or or not, most videos really solid plus minus four point piece of plus 4.6 per game, um, the best plus minus on the team per game is, uh, is Dramon, he's at an 8.6 per game, then Jimmy's at 6.3.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Quentin Post 6.2, and then Moses 4.6, Steph is only at a two, which tells you how poorly he's played in some of those games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So just looking at the young players, all right, so we are in, what is this year, three or four with pods?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're new three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, year three with pods.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His box, uh, his box score numbers look solid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's averaging just under 30 minutes a game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 12.6 points off of 47% shooting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is not shooting the three a ton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He actually has almost the same amount of attempts as Alwarford per game at 4.8.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Any shooting 37.2% they would probably, I think they'd probably be okay if he was in that 38 39 range, but 37 is not poor either.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just not pulling the trigger as much and he rebounds extremely well for a guard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So on the surface in his plus minus, he's he's a 4.2 average per game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The warriors need him to take that leap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is not really taking that leap if you expect him to be the starting two-guard, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because, you know, you look at, I guess Clay Thompson got benched in Dallas, but in the warriors' offense, the two-guard should eat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you can shoot,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you should be eating in this offense because of all the creativity around it and all of the opportunities that you will get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Pods is just kind of being a version of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year's pods, I guess, I'm looking at his last year's numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Last year's numbers, he was, yeah, it's almost exactly the same as last year, almost to a T. So he's basically being the same version of last year, maybe one point more per game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, does he need to be at 15.16 points a game where he,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, unless there's this is coming from somewhere else, which I think that's the argument for Moses actually taking some of those minutes, but what do you, what have you thought about pods so far?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just overly disappointed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think I guess when you hear this guy's been working out a lot off in the off season and then, you know, there's some expectations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, let's see, but yeah, like you said, the numbers kind of line up from year to year and I think that's kind of that's my expectation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I'm sure there's there's room for improvement, but like I think he's just.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, I don't expect him to ever be an all-star in his career that like I have those expectations that come in, but right, it's probably one part of her heart or on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But with pods, I'm just like, can you be a starter in a, you know, contending roster at some point in your career?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's not right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you be a backup point guard right now and on a contending team?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know, that's just my expectations.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's, they probably should be higher if they if they want

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[SPEAKER_00]: he lost a starting job right like is it's post that they've been going post all these games at least starting in whatever the one before Milwaukee was but I know he talks a big game so it's kind of like I should take him out as a word it should I should just be like all right like you want to meet you in this offense

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[SPEAKER_01]: He should be a 15 points per game score and he's not whether it's because he's not taking enough shots or he's not getting to the rim or he's not being decisive enough like how many times have we seen pods with the basketball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: trying to do three or four different moves and then he ends up with a terrible shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like the often, he wants those moments and when given those moments often, he's kind of stuck.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's some of that is because of his athleticism.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a decent athlete, but he's not a great athlete.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think if they are going to take it to that next level, if they are going to be like you said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: he needs to take that level of a of a leap and he has not done that yet this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we're not or nine games in, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He still has 80% of the season left to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the thing he has over coming on moody is that he hasn't really gotten buried ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, he's always kind of had the opportunity in the three years that he's been here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's always been able to yell at him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Steve will yell at him and be vocal in the media about him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's because he knows that he can take it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I mean, he's just going to yeah, he's got to show up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, last night was just the perfect opportunity for them to kind of put together this young warriors player, you know, the starting five was was all drafted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was pods, JK, Moody, will Richard post.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that was, that was a homegrown starting five right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it, again, leading for two quarters, lose the lead a little bit in the third kind of have in the game for like half the fourth quarter and then, you know, the ending.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess they're in it for the whole time, but yeah, it's just, I think they, they,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He needs to step up and and he needs to take over some of these moments because there's going to be a lot of moments like this we've already had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Little bit of Phoenix with no Jimmy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they yeah, there's going to be opportunities like this a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this year especially like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You said they might yeah tomorrow might even be an opportunity for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's look at JK this year year five for JK.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is averaging 30.8 minutes a game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His highest ever was two years ago, he averaged 26.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His scoring is up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's at 17.2 points a game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: his rebounding is considerably up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you want to give him a shout out for something, it would be his rebounding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And his listeners are also up, which kind of says maybe he is being a little bit more decisive this year with the basketball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His assists are up from a 2.2 assists last year, 3.1 this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: his three point percentage is also a p shooting forty one percent versus thirty percent last year he shot thirty percent from three point land and so uh... he's always been a pretty good um... two point percentage shooter is at fifty five percent he's he's been much higher earlier in his

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[SPEAKER_01]: career when they just had him in a dunk or spot and he's just dunking taking a less.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, his free throw percentage also 82% so looking at those box off those box score numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's taken advantage of his opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now does it translate to, you know, to wins because, you know, what they always say is everybody plays better when you play with Steph and some of that is true because he's getting the starter minutes and most of those minutes or I wouldn't say most of them, but a lot of them are with Steph.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that his number should be

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's when, you know, the moments that we see where maybe Steph is struggling or like yesterday when he stuff was out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's when you, you kind of want to see what JK can do and I wonder if he's at this crossroads where he's playing a specific way when he knows Steph and Jimmy are there and then when the lesser players than Steph and Jimmy are out there with him and then

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[SPEAKER_01]: maybe he's at a crossroads there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they started the game where he was doing that, because I think their first bucket came from, he saw, he did a he, he did a he went right pulled up jumper and I was like, okay, he's going to get into a scoring mode where he's attacking and then he's either pulling up because they're playing him, you know, playing him to drive or

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to be able to get by these guys and I thought he was going to be very aggressive and he just was not as aggressive as I thought he was going to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we have his box from yesterday?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 8 of 19 shooting 9 rebounds 24 points.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, he was a plus too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's not like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not I think what probably the thing that we're remembering is a lot of those clutch moments where they needed him to do something and he did not hit that shot, but overall like if you look at those numbers, I think the warriors would take that, but they would also take winning the game and they didn't win so I don't know, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the the ride of JK is going to be very similar to how it's been through his entire career as long as he's with us going to have high expectations when he meets those expectations people are going to say see I told you so he's got it and when he doesn't meet those expectations the other side of the fan base is going to go we need to trade this guy he's a sucker and that's just kind of been the JK experience I think you and I have been more pro JK than most your brother has like JK's biggest fan

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[SPEAKER_01]: he thinks that he's been calling JK's greatness from day one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like that, that's just the right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we know that we've been on this ride for the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would like to see him utilize this good start and continue to play well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the rebounding and the assist numbers being up are our key.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He cannot stop doing those things because those things are going to help him with everything else I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think yeah, when it's when it's going, it looks good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like in a couple of those games early, it's like the ball swinging around the ball is dipping around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's making the right pass in the inside the paint.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was just.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, eight for 19's not good, but I know that, you know, he's the number one option in that offense, not used to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess it's understandable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In that regard, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just going to have these moments and at some point it can't be like, you know, well, he's still new to this moment and he's still new to being the one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, no, this is like a contending roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there are opportunities to win some of these games that he can, you know, take over because there's there's going to be opportunities is going to be tomorrow and there's going to be many others back to back swear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: guys are sitting and yet he's going to have the fresh legs right he's the young guy he wants the opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to get the opportunity like Friday tomorrow Steph doesn't play Jimmy may not play and like I said you might as well not play drama there's another opportunity for him and pods and moody and maybe will Richard to show off like yeah like I can step up in these moments but nobody's going to get

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[SPEAKER_01]: a bigger responsibility with this fan base than coming up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just going to be what it is because of the five years that we've had him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think, you know, the whole warrior's offense, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's it's it's built for staff, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm almost wondering like when he's out like as does it do you just go back to what they did in Minnesota right where it's like all right coming I just put your head down and get 20.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't win a single one of those games though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, no stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's for sure lost, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be interested to see I mentioned in watching how what how he, you know, adapts and and what he wants to do is it put your head down and and get your buckets is it's stay within the offense and and you know maybe more time full timely timely shots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the best the best market ability for him is to be able to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on this team really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that will be his marketability.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's showing teams that JK can play within the system and excel in the system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the, you know, the Warriors system is a very player friendly system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's movement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's passing not a lot of one on one, not a lot of ping on a lot of standing around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so if that would be his best that trade value would be to play well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Bethany, if he plays too well, then maybe they decide to keep him, maybe that might not be what he wants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is the life of a young NBA player who is kind of between prospect and all star.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of guys in that range.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think Will Richard sees a much time in Santa Cruz?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about him in a second because I have some

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[SPEAKER_01]: Moses Modi this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's averaging 13 points a game his previous high was last year when he was at 9.8.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is shooting the three ball fantastically well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't imagine he will keep up a 51% average here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's also taking way more threes than he's ever taken in his career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the interesting thing is his minutes aren't really that up from last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wonder if that's going to change because of how well he's played.

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[SPEAKER_01]: decently well like that is who Moses moody is and if the shooting the three point shooting specifically is all of a sudden something he is excellent at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he should get more minutes than the low 20s that he's currently getting, but then you wonder about who they take that away from, who they take those minutes away from, and we'll have this conversation with Will Richard too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it take away from Buddy Hale to his only really playing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, is he yet like 16 minutes a game right now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me see what Buddy is at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: buddy is at yeah buddy is at 17 minutes a game gp is at nine poor geese only getting six minutes a game

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then Pat Spencer is actually getting more than gui.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know where these minutes necessarily you're gonna come from.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can take small amounts, but curl likes, you know, curl likes it when buddy plays, because if buddy gets hot, the whole team gets hot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if buddy's not hot, then you can kind of tell, and then maybe you pull back on his minutes, but he's such a good player for their morale when he shoot the lights out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Moses is basically,

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[SPEAKER_01]: If if you think of Moses as like a B or a B plus player, he is a half of a grade above that now like he's just really playing good basketball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what what do you do with Moses?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you give him more minutes?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to see him in more lineups or is he playing the perfect version of Moses?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is kind of how you should play him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, give him more minutes, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he he's he's kind of showing exactly what you want out of like a great three and e-player he's guarding the ball and he's hitting 50% of his three's although that's not likely to keep up like no you give that player more minutes um yeah i i'm just looking at who you bring down like i think i think that Spencer is that was a rough game last night for Pat Spenceman i just like i'm like what does he

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you can't shoot, then you better do something else at like I'm near an elite level right and he's like I don't know that he's not in a great finish or at the room like he's he's just he's just put together the offense, like us so yeah take away paths DMP that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, okay, so I think you can DMP Pat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can play Pajanski.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for the majority of the point guard minutes when Steph is not out there, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they would, they generally would.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, um, I mean, yeah, I get that there's a need for ball handlers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess, you know, that will chain, Pat won't touch the floor when if the Anthony Melton comes back and is like even 70% of what he was last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, that, but,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's just other ball handlers that can bring up the ball to, you know, but maybe that changes when Melton comes back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Melton takes all the Pat Spencer minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I just said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that could be the solution to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because Moses does not handle the basketball well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like you can have him handle it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you have like who else like I guess you you do run some point Jimmy when it's him just on the court a lot of Jimmy like just you know in those you know in that in that unit just with the ball at the top and it's like clock's going down is like okay well we've

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't need that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, young Will Richard is playing 16 minutes a game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He shooting 65% from the field and 50% from three point land.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lots of dunks and put backs for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Dunks put backs and three pointers as essentially what he's shooting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: 9.1 points a game in 16 minutes is is fantastic garbage time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is fantastic for the specific lineups that they're putting him in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And let's go back to your question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you play Wilmore?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like does he not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he probably should play, especially if Seth Curry and Melton are back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He probably will have to go back to Santa Cruz.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like right now,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or would you rather see GP or would you rather see ghee or would you rather see Pat Spence like or he just definitely taken those guys out like I know that GP's name was in there too GP's like still I guess like a spot like okay last five seconds of a defensive possession in the quarter or like okay hardens absolutely killing us like we might need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: G. P. situation on G. P. situation, but I think will Richard for, you know, he kind of takes over his minutes when it's not, I guess, situational.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I totally agree when Buddy's going, this team is going, you know, he showed me something the playoffs that I feel like I always ride with Buddy and like I want him on the on the floor, because there's going to be opportunities to get him going, of course, more when he's playing more, but there are moments where you could say, well, Richard should have those minutes too, like, so I'm already shooting up, you know, we shot up through GP2, Pat Spence, you know, like, he's on

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[SPEAKER_00]: part of the rotation of buddies the six of the seventh man like Will Richards right there too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think Kerr would trust him in some of these bigger games though because it's one thing to play well against Indiana when you just got a bunch of Will Richards on the other team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: like, you know, down the stretch in a big game against Denver or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are these not the type of players that he just kind of randomly trust down the stretch?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, he's actually sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just the guys who, you know, know how to what it takes to win like he's he won a national championship doing the right, you know, doing all the things that curl likes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like that's just a guy who he just will give minutes to and probably close games with that make us like confused at the moment and But with will like it I've been quite I've been quite impressed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and I just wonder if Curs can have to make a choice when Melton and Seth Curry come back is Gary Peyton playable situational okay, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he's, then you're carrying 14 guys on your bench.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, when, when Seth is there, it's fit, there's, that's the 15th spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They haven't signed him yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So then will, will's going to have to play beyond team Santa Cruz for a lot of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, probably, probably actually is not a two way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he's actually, he has a roster spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As two a two a or two he has a roster spot too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I think he's a two way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, Jack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't even know if they have a third.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember once have a spot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Opening night when they when they had they brought everyone out in the introductions, there were a couple of guys who I was like, oh, okay, those guys must be two ways because I don't appreciate them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So so there's our, you know, the bad defense is on the two way, so he Pat spends the third two way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so there's our conversation about these young players and

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[SPEAKER_01]: the NBA Cup or the Emirates NBA Cup or whatever you want to call it starts tomorrow for the Warriors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have never really seemed to be all that invested in winning this thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They win a couple games though, you know, like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did they even go to Vegas against Houston or was that a hope?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or was that two go to Vegas?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was a dude to go to Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, you know, they are currently, we gave the schedule, let me, let me pull up the standings here, not that standings matter all that much at this point, but they are 5 and 4.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there is a possibility, I hope not, I hope it doesn't happen, but there is a possibility where, you know, they may be,

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[SPEAKER_01]: under 500 for a little while, but you look at some of the other teams that timber wolves are at right at 500 clippers are under 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the Grizzlies are under 500 a Grizzlies are three and six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, it allows Mavericks to in six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see how that times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, there are some teams who are kind of underperforming and I wouldn't consider the warriors underperforming necessarily except for those two games on the road, the back to back like you said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have an excuse for whatever reason if they want to use it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just, they are 48 wins until they show me differently.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's an unrunnered list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we're both on the same page, sky isn't falling, but I think I'm more optimistic than you are about this team down the line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think they really do believe their contenders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think there's, I think they surely have have realized or recognized that you don't want to be on the,

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[SPEAKER_00]: bottom half of a playoff bracket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you want a good chance at winning this thing, like, you know, again, Sacramento that one year, they were the six seed and then they go on to play LA in the second round.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, but then last year, they were the seven seed, like, it pays to be the higher seed to get that home court advantage to, you know, so you're not like sprinting at the end of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: out of breath tired like you want to be able to like coast a little bit and I don't know if like, you know, I don't know if they have the roster to be able to coast just kind of depends on the the health status of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think I'm betting on it's I mean, it's hard to bet on health.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a flip of the coin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sometimes that you can't just

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[SPEAKER_00]: can't really guess unless you know, a player's like injury prone, but we have some, you know, maybe Jimmy 65 games, Steph, hopefully like 65 at the least for all these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, I think I'm just betting on, I think they're going to be a foreseed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be my guess.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be my guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk a little bit of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alright, have you been fun?

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about this these last few shows, but have you been following any more of the Valkyries international players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm in our discord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm seeing a lot of you stay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess what did she she played a game against Carla not the other day, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she played against Janelle yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so I from our

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our consultant or the person who's on the watch, Costa who is in our discord has said that he saw you stay play, maybe the best game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll actually get the quote, because he wrote it in the Valkyries channel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you stay getting star minutes now it seems and this was in the genel game and he just said it was the first game where you or you stay looked like a star level player, she was the best player and either team in crunch time, obviously need to do more

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he's do it more often, but you know, she's very young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope Costa doesn't mind us, uh, he, he did not say post this on the podcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I hope he, he doesn't mind just I just, I love reading his stuff because he's obviously watching the games and he's as invested as we are in the success of you stay, you know, he's watching more than I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, he's I felt the basketball fatigue of like not like I want to watch, but I'm just like these games keep stacking up up behind our warriors games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to watch you stays team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to watch college like shout out to the athletics women's basketball pod because there's no offseason man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is no off season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the other stuff about Valkyries players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's kind of cool because have you seen their Twitter channel where they're showing like where they're playing internationally and then where they're playing for unrivaled.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have like little graphics and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's pretty cool that you can kind of follow a little bit through the Valkyries Twitter channel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and Kate's on pages team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she's on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Breeze FC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think this was purposeful that for for the breeze team Kate Cameron and Paige on the same team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kate Cameron.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought that was the the show the graphic and I was like wait a second here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Also Dominique Malonga and Raqqa Ajax in an area McDonald.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if if they can get some scoring if page Dominates they'll probably a pretty good team on the hive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Monique Billings is playing for the hive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's playing with Kelsey Mitchell, easy Magvagore, Natasha Hydeman, Sinai Rivers, and Sonya Citron.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I actually, it's actually cool to see some of these younger players who you were talking about a couple of years ago in college and stuff who are now playing pro and now they're playing on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's cool to see the kind of the follow-through from college to now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see who else or what other Valkyries players are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Veronica's on the missed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Veronica.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Veronica.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brianna Stewart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of Smith.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alicia Gray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's going to be a really good team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Eureka.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then who's the the I can't pronounce this name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lee.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeru.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lai.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Lee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You pronounce it right the first time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I think that's it for Valk's players, but it looks easier.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's use some of me here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's injured back up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a lot of players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did look at the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the merch hoping that we were going to get some better merch this time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they do have jerseys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking for hats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will take a nice hat that is not a dad hat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they do actually have snapbacks this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I may have to pick me up a snapback for one of the teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got to figure out who's going to be my team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just have to pledge allegiance to a roster because last year I decided to pick the lunar owls and then you know the Valkyries expansion draft happened and they signed some players in the off season and it was like okay so now we have two Valkyries on the laces with K and Tiffany A's so then I started following the laces and then now two clubs were added you have an expansion

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was only get to keep two players and not know we have no Valkyries in the Laces now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm following, I'm trying to, you know, and I guess that's the point of a team, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you follow them regardless of the player, but yeah, I wanted to, there's just so much movement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this too much movement for me to be like, okay, I'm going to put my stake into this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the coolest logo though, like if I wasn't going to pick a hat from one of the players of the Valcreate team that the Valcreas are on to me the coolest hat is the vinyl that might be my my pick is is having that the vinyl on a hat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to have to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so we have to talk about this new league called project B this way is I brought it up last time and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a brand new article by Sabrina and Mike Vorkanov in the athletic.

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[SPEAKER_01]: about Neca Ogumikay is the first player publicly attached to the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A lot of Beard said that there are other players signed to, they have multiple current all NBA players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we can kind of like, there's only 15 all in all NBA, WMBA players, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or there's only 10.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do they have three teams or two teams?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's only 10 players on the all WMB 18.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can kind of like, is there not a non-rivaled right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Sabrina is not playing unrivaled this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, what about the MVP of the season?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Asia, Caitlin, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, I feel like if they would have got Caitlin, though, she would have been announced first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the idea is, okay, so here's another clue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: multiple current all WMBA players who have received those honors, young superstars who are on the rise and players from four different continents.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're going very international about what with with these choices and you know something that we learned in just kind of covering the WMBA and the draft from last year is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's lots of talent that just do not make rosters because of how hard it is to make a team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you have such few roster spots, not that will open up a little bit next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And hopefully with the CBA, they will have more actual roster spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't have to

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, go into games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll think only nine healthy players and such.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there is talent and if the yet as you think about how as the the women's game keeps growing growing growing there will be more talent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That will be available and maybe project be does become something.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't imagine there's going to be many unrivaled players if any who aren't also on WMBA rosters because that those unrivaled rosters are so much smaller.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's probably going to be a one-to-one ratio there of unrivaled players being WMBA players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do wonder if they're going to be some project B players who aren't good enough to make the WMBA, but they get on tape

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[SPEAKER_01]: in project B and then they play in the WMBA because the leagues play at opposite times of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, I will I just some like I just wonder what this does for negotiations does it help or hurt for the current CBA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The way I look at it like the unrivaled case where it's like we could be the, you know, we could we can be the next WMBA if you got which I know we don't really believe like that, but just a little bit of leverage and then project these like no, we're going to start taking some players to over here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the way that I'd look at it is I think project be we have to know more about how many games they plan to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I think what did they say they were only starting out with six teams or something like that like it's a small amount of teams and The only going to have bigger rosers because it is full court five on five on like on like unlike unrivaled and if I'm the WNBA I may go to Unrivaled and go look like we would prefer the players come here because this the court is smaller

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're you're not playing all that often your body should not get beat up and you know we we want we we support this league I don't know if you want to go and say you know this other league that is international that you would not really have And not saying that they have control over unrival said don't think they do but You would you would you don't know what project be could be dealing with international

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is another sort of wrinkle to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know how historically there've been some incidents with some players internationally.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, you would hope that it's on the up and up, but you don't know for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what kind of money goes into that league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's some very rich people backing it, like more rich, there's many of the people back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and we'll, we'll, we'll, we'll study Arabia being invested into that league, which kind of changes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that been confirmed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I feel like everyone on Twitter saying it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually, I think that was the thought that that's how they're getting the start up money was through Saudi Arabia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if I'm the league, I kind of look at unraveling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'd rather our top players stay here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if project B gets started and they're offering.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, $3 million a year for just a winter season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of these players were like, I don't know if to do this for like a few years and I can pocket this money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now as far as the leverage, I think project B existing is actually good for all of basketball because what it does is if there is something to this

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[SPEAKER_01]: the players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It gives them more leverage because there's more opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I'm not saying that somebody like Asia Wilson is going to go, you know what, I don't need to play in the WMBA because this league is paying me five X more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that happens, but the

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[SPEAKER_01]: could be good could be a good thing for the players so that the WNBA just gets their stuff together man like they they need to when we've talked about this and I don't feel like I'm speaking out of turn because I've heard people who've been following this league say this for a very long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they need to take advantage of this period of time of where the growth is so huge.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we cannot hear anything about, oh, you know, the structure and the ecosystem, like it's where it's not ready like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you need to move and you need to move fast and you need to be able to support the growth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you need to be able to support.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Caitlin Clark, Caitlin Clark's popularity and Angel Reese's popularity and you need to be able to support all of those things and use it to raise your league up in a way that they have not yet been able to do so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're signing contracts to get more television money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're doing out on that side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now let's sign this CBA to where the players think that they're getting a fair

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[SPEAKER_01]: and that you're growing with this thing together because that's what you want out of a CBA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want the league and the players union to feel like they are growing together at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if there's this project be thing that's kind of hanging out there and they have investment and they have players who are kind of interested, I think it just keeps the WMBA on their toes and it makes them come to this understanding like, yeah, the players do actually have some power

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[SPEAKER_00]: NBA's got a monopoly, so they don't worry about a damn thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then by off, off topic, but did you have you seen a house a dynamite?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the only reason I bring it up because there's an angel resamio, so I don't know where to do her man, that's really cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even I don't even I wouldn't even recommend the movie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I was going to say I don't know if that movie's cool enough necessarily to to be that intriguing for young people, but it's it almost had me I was like I was so locked in and then there's just the main complaint is the ending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I heard that they did not land very well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't land play to real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's end with a discussion of who we think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to pull up the women's college basketball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even know what that is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there a top 25 yet for women's college basketball?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's a there's a ranking like they do preseason rankings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there are you know, sure you can was one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who you think is going to be the number one team at the end of March Madness in this year for at the end of March Madness You're asking me to predict the who wins March Madness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, who wins March Madness right now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who would you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a man in South Carolina, which I made the mistake going with last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you think you got a pretty deep roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They always have a deep roster, but I kind of like their top to bottom, more than, you know, you can't, I can't even say more than you can confidently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think Sarah Strong has the chance to be the best player in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the out of the end, add to anyone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because I'm in between and correct me, maybe there's another one, but it's Yukon for me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's either Yukon, South Carolina or UCLA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the top three in my head.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are the top three in the AP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The preseason AP right now as we speak.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Those are your top three teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it goes Texas, LSU, Oklahoma, Duke, Tennessee, NC State, Maryland, that rounds out the top 10.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and unfortunately no barrier teams actually no Stanford got three votes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're hanging out with three votes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This feels too easy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But like how can you go you got to answer you and on is my only argument is like they just lost page beckers like what isn't that just the most obvious argument is that they lost page beckers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, but they also had the best freshman in college basketball who's now sophomore, and who just looks like she's going to be like for the next three years just like it just get better and better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know who interests me though, the USC, the young freshman.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the only reason I know who she is,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is Shaquille O'Neill has a Netflix show about restarting Reebok, and part of the show is him recruiting

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[SPEAKER_01]: athletes to become Reebok athletes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Reebok basketball, like when Shaq was playing, like he signed with Reebok instead of Nike, like out of college and people just thought like there's no way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he he and then AI obviously signed with Reebok as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then Reebok stopped doing basketball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they brought shack back, and he is the VP of X, Y, and Z of Reebok, basketball or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so part of his thing is like he's got to go recruit and pitch on these NIL deals to these young athletes to be a part of the Reebok family.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of those was to Jazzy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I watched that segment.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was one of those were were, you're like, okay, she's not picking Reebok like there's no way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was very quick, she's like, oh, she went to Nike, but I was like, oh, she's really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she looks like she's got like the personality to actually be like a star athlete, you know, because some of it is like on the court, but then there's also that other piece off the court.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was impressed, you know, as you can be impressed by an 18 year old kid, but she seems like she's kind of on that on that rise to to becoming one of those players too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she has free

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[SPEAKER_01]: able to open up some eyes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So not to say that USC is going to, you know, do I, I'm picking Yukon, but oh my god, you were actually thinking about picking USC?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I'm saying she's going to be the one that I kind of keep my eye on from the freshman perspective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there's the, um, well, you kind of have to keep your eye on Alia Chavez because yeah, that's the other one because, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: My vocal homo, my reasoning is because there's never and I'm 99% sure because I know I look this up in the past like two years ago I was following her career because barely any Mexican hoopers like I got I got to make sure that you know I show love to the Mexican hoopers and she's she was number one for like the past two years and literally at the final stretch the last 100 meters They give it to Jazzy instead of

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[SPEAKER_00]: instead of a Leah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She had at the whole time and I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some people were saying it's politics like I don't even know what it is, but I'm following a Leah Chavez.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's she's she's not afraid to shoot that ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's kind of got the like, you know, deep three type of, you know, there's like some Caitlin in her game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's just pulling that thing, but yeah, she shot a lot of shots to that first game with Oklahoma.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I find the social media stuff so interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's only got 16,000 Twitter followers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Twitter, you'll never find many a high Twitter follower count for most of these brush liberties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like Instagram is kind of the celebrity hot pot 84,000 on Instagram.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: check that that's where that's where you're I mean even MBA prospects I know when I was kind of doing like scouting and stuff I'd go on their Twitter pages like say like hey would you be down to be on this podcast and it's like you feel like you have a chance because they have like two thousand followers because they never tweet and it's like your the number five prospect like shouldn't you have like 20,000 um yeah Twitter's I feel like some don't some do some don't

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so we'll be back, who's, you come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, okay, we'll be back next week with some more gold state who, hopefully the warriors turn it around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if there's any updates to the CBA and, and then yeah, so we'll have some stuff to talk about, hopefully,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully the Warriors just don't get killed tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is my fear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I feel like Yoke is just like you know what You guys won that that game early in the season and now I'm gonna make you pay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right for Brian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am WGC when we see you piece out