Moody Magic! 49ers Beat Raiders on Game-Winning Field Goal + Kyle's Lean Toward Veteran WRs | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, Rod.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have two preseason games in the books for the forty-nineers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say this game was a little bit better than the first one though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were still some interesting things happening in the game and it's also just preseason football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Jake Moody got tested at least.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to kick five times and made four of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were some

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... couple of them didn't look great but he put them in and then he just missed one that did not seem uh... it was a long one but he he didn't really but uh... who else stood out for you in in the game in which the nine years one twenty two to nineteen at the very last second um... jiff was a good um...

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, Chase Lucas made a couple more plays today, which was, I think he's solidifying a role on the team for himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, those, those are the two guys that that really stood out to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Personal and pretty seemed to be in mid season form.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was good to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: those.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty much it in terms of like the good that I I walked away from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was not like I'm surprised.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Wilson's a pro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, you know, and when you factor in the fact that he is a professional running back, covering with the guys that he was playing against.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't shock me that he looked good, but, you know, for

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, all the nutrition that we've had at that position, I, you know, I think it's, you know, it's, he's a solid, you know, two behind, party and two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, behind, CMC and two, we're able to get some of those other guys back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we don't really know what we have with Jordan James.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Grindo is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: was good last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it just seems like he's another one of those race car guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was interesting, you know, they have most read over there on the other side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just another one of those fast guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems, you know, it's, it's those guys, the Ferrari's and they spend a lot of time in the garage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just seems like so, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, it was he was a good pick up and it looks like at least until again, I still have not got a straight answer on what's going on with you on if this is injury related or if it's contract related, but I know

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[SPEAKER_00]: especially after this summer man, you know, with, you know, as an NBA fan after Tatum and Haliburton, I'm not going out there with this Australian calf at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not playing that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not going out there until I'm one hundred percent healthy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In fact, the fact of the matter with him is he doesn't even really need to play in the preseason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he doesn't have to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then there should be a little bit more transparency on what this is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I think the real reason why forty nine or fans are kind of like what's going on is because of what happened with Christian last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They downplayed the Christian injury so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he missed the first half of the season only to come back and then get hurt in a different way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't really trust there's not a lot of trust with the fan base right now as far as the injuries are concerned and they keep piling up another person I wanted to throw out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he made a couple of good plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There was one play where he got beat and then made up for it by breaking up a pass that it looked like the pass was there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then as the receiver is coming down with the ball, he was able to punch it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He looked really fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he over pursued again on another another one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you winters?

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh, Gentie on on one of those plays, uh, Gentie actually, of course, you know, he's a hydrophobic, but Gentie looks like he's going to be a dude, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he can tell he'll be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they can't, you know, that's going to be the big thing for him is it, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not to say that I was skeptical of him, but if you watch those games and boysy state, it was like, he was there was like nobody around him for like the first three or four yards and he was still, I mean, that's not to take anything away from him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: as we, I don't know how much of the first game or the Raiders you was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have any kind of full.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, like he didn't even had any positive yardage or if it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, it was against Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just there was nothing there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they did a much better job of blocking for him today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was today, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Where am I?

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[SPEAKER_01]: For those listening on Monday, we are recording Sunday evening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it would have been yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Saturday for us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but he looks good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He really is strong after contact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's a he's going to be a really good player for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Go back to going back to Perti and Pierce saw.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know I'm looking of course we're forty-nineers fans and we're always looking for fantasy players who are forty-nineers because we watch all the game so it's nice to have some of those guys and I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Ricky Pierce, I was going to be high on a lot of draft boards for sleeper, potential or maybe guys who you may want to take a little bit earlier than most because of the fact that with the no brand in IU, there's going to be more opportunity for the ball to be spread around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the problem is is

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[SPEAKER_01]: if he then becomes the sort of the de facto wide receiver that gets the most tension, that's not going to be great for him because as I know him getting off of the line has been kind of the weakness of his game so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he can sit in this like second or third receiver role, I think he can eat

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if Jennings is out and IU is going to be out for the beginning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if he has to be a little bit more of the number one receiver in the office, that's probably not great for him at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how many number one corners he wants to be seen because apparently Patrick's the tan was just eating his lunch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in terms of being able to get open, and like you say, that is not where you're despite what the fans will say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number, why receive one is not where you want Ricky Pierce to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not that's just not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: who he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going to route guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Open and he's just he needs to be skinned and he's he's like really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He'd be a really good pick if he's like laying in the cut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got Jennings and then once you get, um, how you back, like you say, if you could slide him in as

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[SPEAKER_00]: then the slot, why receiver three, there will be a lot of opportunities.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, maybe you can, you know, maybe a few rounds later, you just go ahead and draft Robbie Chosen and you'll be your fantasy sleeper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wanted to talk about him because we saw, so obviously Ricky, Ricky looked great on that first drive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: other guys we saw Tariq Owens he made a catch so we got to see him and who's the hopkins made made a couple catches as well and it's like you have like these really young guys

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you got the OGs with Robbie chosen and Russell Gage.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess Gage hasn't been in the league in a couple years because of injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's really trying to make it back on an NFL roster with this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like Travis and Marcus Robinson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he's supposed to be suspended, isn't he?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's supposed to be suspended.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that Niners are thinking like three games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, he's kind of like, uh, you know, he is a man amongst boys in the preseason because he is, uh, you know, he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's he's

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, like a chosen or gauge, like what do you think about these old guys who are trying to make a roster and it's almost like in a sense they're kind of the Jeff Wilson style.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're they're pros, but also.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As you get older, the injuries are going to be a concern.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you want to invest in younger players because you can develop them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the Niners are at this interesting crossroads where they kind of need to win this season and next season because their best players outside of Brock, their kiddo and Warner and Trent Williams

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you really want to go after it right now for those guys, because they're probably not going to be any better than they are now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you lean towards some of the vets or do you go, hey, we may need to invest in some of these young players and figure it out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what the answer is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a shanahan answer, obviously, but it is interesting seeing the OGs out there with the young players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I just, you know, all I can base it on is what I've seen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got a pretty

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, more on track record will call it at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is what season eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Watkins is hurt now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's like they say that's like a three or four week injury, which kind of sucks for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, awful for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That he couldn't capitalize on the momentum and he was building.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you see him get hurt last week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't even notice that he got hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you get out of your brain and nobody even realizes until the next day?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then, you know, what we know about Kyle says that

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's probably not going to play anyway.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's just, I don't, I just don't trust when you tell me that, you know, Watkins and Coward, you're going to get this large target share.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that there, there are going to be opportunities out there, obviously, because you're replacing debos, a hundred targets and, you know, you're going to have, you know, damn their half a season of, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: how you targets that you're going to have to somebody's going to have to get and Christian and George can't get all the targets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're there with I would imagine that if last year was any indication JJ, if he's healthy, he's going to get a large share and it looks like Ricky could be in line for

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[SPEAKER_00]: a large share, but still, you know, you're still talking about, you're talking about a hundred and seventy, a hundred and eighty targets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is not going to be concentrated amongst those three or four players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's somebody else is going to have to get targets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I think that's where as you are suggesting,

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[SPEAKER_00]: plate will not so much Robinson, especially if he's missing, you know, three weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's where somebody like gauge comes in and I would just imagine that he's going to see a very a pretty significant relative to, you know, for somebody who was out all of last year, I would imagine he's going to see a rather healthy

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[SPEAKER_00]: targets here and then you've got somebody like chosen who again is a professional receiver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, I would think based on what I know about Kyle, I would pick him to get

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[SPEAKER_00]: of a bigger target cheered and somebody like cowing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, I just, I'm not, and I'm not saying that that's right or wrong.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just, I'm just saying, if I were handicapped in it, that's, I would be leaning towards guys like gauge or chosen, not that I would lean towards them, but I would think they would be the guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyle's would, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to go the vet route more so than the young player out in that instance.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who was the receiver that the Eagles traded for today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I heard that the Niners were in on that, but they did not have as good of a trade deal as the Eagles did, so they did not get them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're looking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What did you think about Mac?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only reason I even bring up the backup quarterback here is because, you know, Brock has, he's been hurt already once with the, with the elbow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, he got dinged up a little bit last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because of his size, you always worry about injuries, but he's also, he's tough for his for who he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you hear the story about, what was it three years ago in Minnesota where was it Minnesota or Seattle?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Seattle maybe he had to take the shot in the ribs and Shanahan do like so the guys tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: but at the same time, you know, this is the NFL and guys could miss games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mac Jones, you think Mac, Mac Jones, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If the Niners are a good team, I think Mac Jones could win them a game or two if they need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Mac Jones, a healthy dose of ten games worth of Mac Jones is probably not in your best interest, but, you know, he makes some mistakes

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's also pretty savvy out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I do like, I do like seeing what I see from him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he plays very similarly to Brock at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they kind of make the same throws there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not going to knock knock your socks off with the arm strength.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock's more athletic in the pocket and running around and creating opportunities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I kind of like Mac, and I didn't know what I was going to think about him because the outside of New England, he was kind of like, and some of that is because of the quarterback that they drafted, but the lot of frustration about him coming out of New England.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but I kind of like what I see from him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that you have to, I have been grading him on the curve and that, you know, he's out there with two's and three's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I agree with you that if you have to put Mac in there and he's playing with the ones for a couple of weeks, I think he'd be fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, he's obviously is not brought, but I don't, I'm not really worried about Mac losing us games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I think that he can be, he can keep

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[SPEAKER_00]: the bus in the middle of the road, you know, if it's a short term injury, I guess more so, anything, it's the injury to the offensive line that are concerning to me and that, you know, now I thought, you know, it was it looked like Poonie's injury was worse than it

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[SPEAKER_00]: ended up being, you know, then he was sitting on the bench and everybody was like, like, we dodged a bullet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now I hear it could be three to four weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's, you know, I, I just, I'm,

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[SPEAKER_00]: My glass half full.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still can't get, you know, some people talking about because of the schedule and whatnot, this could be a twelve winter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't, I don't, that is like extremely optimistic to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then, you know, we're at a point now where, what do we think about

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[SPEAKER_00]: how we are going to do like three weeks away now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're like a mashing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so if we were fully healthy, I still think, twelve wins is optimistic, but I don't think at this point, there's no way we go, we get to week one at full strength.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then she shatter hands comment about the injuries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's out for the season yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's a, that's a, that's a great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's a great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just, where I cannot, you know, I have a really watch close enough to be able to, I know that Connor Colby had the highest PFF grade among offensive players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: which is, which is great, but I just, I cannot, I hope we do not see a spits of birth for plant any significant snaps because that's a problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Our depth at that position, Nick Hoosis doesn't look like he's any great shakes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be, and again, I know that it's just been proven at this point that Trent's presence kind of makes everything better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Once he's out there, everything kind of makes a lot more sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we were not going to see him in the preseason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when you're looking at, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the raiders really getting stuff done on the defense of wine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have to kind of take that with a grain of salt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think that I'm being a hand wringer when I'm concerned about the office wine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's problematic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably especially when you talk about the importance of Brock and we really can't afford to be without him for any length of time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we can, it's like I trust Mac to a certain extent, but I just, we're not really going anywhere if Mac is playing an extended period of time, I don't think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think that's being negative to say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we need Brock to play for us to be to get first to get where we want to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock needs to be out there and and you know not banged up but be out there and is healthy is you know NFL players ever are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can kind of tell, and maybe this is a good thing about Tim Ryan, because I was kind of killing him last game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you can kind of tell with someone who's close to the team as he is, when he's trying to explain why something didn't work, who he is willing to blame.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was, I don't remember if it was a running play that got blown up or there was a, or you know, quarterback got hit or something, but he was like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Zagil, or just got blown off the line on that play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, okay, you're telling us, you know, you're telling us what the real problem was on that thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can tell where your frustration is as a forty-nine-years-home or an answer, but also someone who was being as truthful as possible about why the play didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If there is a failure to this team now, I'm a little bit more comfortable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with even though the defense, you know, in both weeks, you know, they're playing against, you know, Gino got to play today, Gentica to play today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there are a lot of first stringers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the defense is getting some reps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're also missing players, like still know Michael Williams, it sounds like maybe next week, he'll actually get to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of people are a little frustrated with our second round pick, Alfred Collins,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm a little bit more comfortable in letting kind of the defensive line figure itself out, because there are pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are new pieces, Bryce Huff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Savage like Bryce Huff's gonna play a lot this year on the other side of Bosa, and especially in passing down and moving some of the other guys on the inside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm sort of okay with moving in and out and figuring out the defensive line, because there are new pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The offensive line is the same old pieces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's almost like, if you guys aren't cohesive right now, then it's not not any great shakes for the regular season, because these are the same guys who are on the team last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're, you know, how much better is Jake Brando going to be or, you know, we're talking about being barred to suppose to be an upgrade over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: over banks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess I don't, you know, if you say so, and then, you know, Pony was the mom, Bryce, but now he could, you know, I don't know when you say two to three weeks now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What does that mean does that take us two week one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because he missed regular season games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then

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[SPEAKER_00]: Apparently, I mean, I, you know, it's not very wide reported, but apparently, you know, our guy McKibitz wants more money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, we talked about this last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we watch him in a vacuum, but apparently at his position, he's like, you know, middle

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[SPEAKER_00]: of the road in terms of the money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just probably not going to be with the Niners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, kind of like a McClentie type situation where there's going to be somebody who's willing to pay him, like we talked about, but we I guess we went over this last week, we jay them more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If somebody's willing to give jay them more, fifteen million dollars, I think that, you know, McKibitz is in line for something similar.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just don't know, just based on their level of commitment to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: up to this point, I think it would be a extreme about face for them to missies and decide that they were going to give him that type of contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, it's wild on me that I'm like you, you taught, you hit it on the head when you said last week that there seems to be a market indifficiency at tackle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that guys that you watch in a vacuum and say, this guy is not very good, but guess what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess they're, you know, better than most in any tackle prospect coming out of college football next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a junior, like you just need to come out because there's so much space

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[SPEAKER_01]: for these tackles, and then, you know, because if the foreigners are unwilling to pay for McKinvits, who do they feel that spot with?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if either you're taking back someone else's average player and paying them what you paid me kivots or you're drafting a young player and that's that's not what they're doing they're not drafting tackles they're kind of you know doing the whole thing you know what they usually do which is just the best player available so that there is there's it's not like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if somebody leaves that they just go, oh, we're putting them right in like this is, this is the birthord problems.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I go, we're gonna put birthord insight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, great, because he's not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have this problem, this is gonna be, this seems where the, the birth of talent is in the league right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you are a college junior and you have any prospects of getting, you just might as well come out next year, because there's, there's just so much of a need for for you as a position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's like, you know, if they're going to be where they want to be in terms of price, it's going to happen because you say, if they're an even average tackle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they're going to end up paying the same amount of money that that McKibitz is you're not going to get them for the five million dollars that you're paying him for seven million whatever it is that you're paying him now because the market says that there will be somebody out there who is willing to pay

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[SPEAKER_00]: more than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pay them eight figures, which it kind of boggles the mind, but it looks like that is where the market is for those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like you say, if you are a richer salt more, you know, that you are coming out early because there is a place for you in the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to get drafted higher than

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[SPEAKER_01]: you probably would in a different time frame as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So have you been following any of the NFC West stuff, the story with the Stafford, which is kind of the same story as it's always been.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he it seems as he gets older, the ailments seem a little harder for him to deal with, especially early in the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for the for the ramies, you know, that that is, you know, if you got a

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's their backup Jimmy G if you're if you're you're running Jimmy G out there and you're a Rams fan and you're thinking like you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: with a healthy Matt Stafford and everything that falls in place.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have a really good opportunity to kind of get back where we got last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That opportunity is not the same with Jimmy G. You and I can tell people that even the five years ago, Jimmy G, you know, there was a limit to him so that that's not great shakes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I've even following any of the other stuff going on in the Midwest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as a, you know, I've had

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, obviously aging people in my family who have had back problems, it doesn't sound great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when you're talking about a quarterback and back issues, you know, it doesn't, it's not great news for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now again, they sound like they are just, it's an over-abundance of caution.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I mean, I, you want to talk about coach B. Sean McVay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: who has me not trust in my line like he sounds like he really really believes that Jimmy G is can be the answer and I just like you said I just know that now to be the case, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He talks a good game, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess what else is he gonna say?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it that if we've met Stafford?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is not here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are sunk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I guess you can't say that necessarily, but I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how you can

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've been a for you watch the forty-nineers and then watch the Raiders and believe that Jimmy is the answer to anything other than who's a great hang at strip clubs in NFL.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, ran my guy to Vontay Adams out of town and he wasn't even on the team anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jimmy G is, um, he's a lot of things, but yeah, that, um, I don't know about you winning anything, um, significant with, um, with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I, I really like the cardinal issue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have my, one of my, my first fantasy draft was today, and, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am clearly a lot higher on Kyler than the people in my work because I was able to get him like in the tenth round.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just think that it sets up really well for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Cardinals, and it's crazy because they're the Cardinals, but I just think they set up really, really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that they are going to be heard from

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the NFC West this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've got a lot of good pieces, McBride.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know a lot of people took Marba Harrison Jr.

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[SPEAKER_00]: early last year and they were

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[SPEAKER_00]: disappointed with him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there was a lot of disappointment with him relative to his draft position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But to try to make it out that he like stunk last year was that it just wasn't the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He we had a good rookie season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he didn't if you can go drafted him in the top twelve.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he did not pay off that ADP, but you know, I don't know why you were drafted or rookie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that high.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't neighbors and that's who he's always going to be compared to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that was a, you know, I just neighbors was just really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're right, that I think that is where he pales and compares, because it's not like the neighbor's situation was any great shakes either in terms of his office rewind and his quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he was catching passes from Danny DeVito at one point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, but he was really, really good and it just he didn't

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[SPEAKER_00]: pay off more, I didn't pay off like that, but I think that I don't, I'm not ready to say that that's who he is as a player because he, you know, if you are nerd, a lot of the advanced metrics were really good for him and I was listening to somebody on the ringer fantasy podcast show and he was like basically

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what they were asking him to do was just kind of go out there and win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They think they weren't really scheming him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he kind of looks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just lining him up outside and, you know, he's just go win, which is

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of tough for rookie to come into a league and do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so I'm hoping, or they're hoping, well, and I'm hoping now, it's just kind of a quarter of a thing that they, their scheme is a tad bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Inventive this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Seattle, their defense looks like it could be really good, but they're offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am just not a Sam Darnall, Krutter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't believe in Sam Darnall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that he was in

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[SPEAKER_00]: He couldn't have been in a better situation that he was in last season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just, I don't know that the Seattle is going to provide, you know, they've got Clint Kubieck, which a lot of people who

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[SPEAKER_00]: Follow offensive football say that he is a good play caller and obviously the offense is good and I don't know how much Cooper Cup has left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if there's a lot that has to go right in Seattle for that situation for them to be I think they're the last place team in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the West.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you know, like you say, it's with the Rams, man, they looked good at the end of the last season, but if Masterford misses any time at all, because, because Stafford, we love him or hate him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's that guy that for one start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can look like the best quarterback in the league for one game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now consistency is something else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you tell me, if you were to tell me that, you know, master after we went out there, if they had beat the Eagles, it wouldn't, it wouldn't have been a shock because they had them on the ropes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They really, yeah, it was a great game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, um, but his back is broke.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's spinal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I mean, especially for some Mike Tyson shadow Mike Tyson is big big.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One time, uh, when when Crystal and I were dating very early on, uh, I had a back spasm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When I lifted heavy heavier weights, you know, five, six years ago, I would randomly get these like crippling backspasms, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like could literally was on the floor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so it would take me like five minutes to work through it just to kind of get up, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I texted her, I was like, yeah, my back is broken spinal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she was like, she was like, oh, do we need to call the ambulance?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, no, I'm just kidding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's like a mic Tyson.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now whenever I imagine any sort of soreness, I'll tell her that my back is broken and she remembers that time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But before we get out of here, we're going a little shorter this weekend, and we'll be back next weekend with the chargers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we hope to have one other thing that I don't want to mention because we're still sort of figuring it out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But before we get out of here, so Terry McLaren, Micah Parsons, these big time holdouts, who else is holding out?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Or are they the main two?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Here are the main two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just the idea of the way the NFL salary cap works and how you get your money and X, Y, and Z, like Washington is, if you're a, if you're a Washington fan, you're thinking like man, we have like a nice little opportunity here for three to five years with Daniels and, and you know, with the run that they were on last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Terry McCloron also sees that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's like, yep, we sure do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're going to need me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, Micah Parsons, this is like a historical Jerry Jones thing where, you know, it's like the summer of Jerry, it's all about summer of Jerry until the fall season starts and football starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then he wants his team to be put back together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But do you sense either of those guys shaken their way to other teams or is this just they're going to sign at the last minute and be ready for week one?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, obviously, it goes without saying that I'm a hundred percent pro player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I can see, watching to the side of it, you know, term of quarantine is like thirty one years old and do they want to give him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he, you know, but again, people are, he's not asking for

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chase and Jefferson money, he's asking for St.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brown and I, you, money, which is not out of line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like you say, from his standpoint, he sees the fact that, you know, the hope is high in Washington right now with Daniels and whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they are not the same team, you know, as much as I love Debo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: None of what they have planned works without McCorn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're not going to be able to slot loop McCaffrey into that McCorn role and think that you're going to get the same return.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for them to get where they need to go or want to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they need him and he knows that and I know that they don't they're going to have to hold their nose and give him the kind of guaranteed money that they want to give him because when you know two or three years you know we're talking he'll be thirty three thirty four which is not ideal you know but you know it they're going to you know

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[SPEAKER_00]: state the fans there in Washington have not had anything to really cheer about for a long time and it's there's not going to be a whole lot of sympathy for Adam Peters and and Josh Harris if they don't get this guy in there for week one and Jerry you know that's just crazy when when he admits to the fact that

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's trying to generate buzz for his team with the nonsense that he's striving to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that it's bizarre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, obviously any of us that watch him could have guess that that was what he was doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for him to say the quiet part out loud is just really

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[SPEAKER_00]: bizarre.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And none of that has really anything to do with the winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that's why they find themselves where they have found themselves for the past thirty years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're one of the most popular teams in professional sports.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the people at ESPN will tell you that

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, why do they talk about them as much as they do is because when they talk about them, people don't change their channel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not wrong that controversy as it relates to the Dallas Cowboys is good for business.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know that it's good for winning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I'm a Cowboy fan, which I'm the opposite of,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, keep talking, Jerry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be pissed if I was a cowboy fan, but as an either fan, I think he's doing a great job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that he should just continue to so controversy and soap opera and drama.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just do that and let's see how that translates to wins and losses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we're going to we're going to shut it down here, but I will say before we get out of here after watching Jake Moody make four to five field goals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If our season is on the line, well, he lines up for fifty nine year fifty nine yard field goal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's kicking in the tunnel man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, don't believe it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's going to prove us wrong, Jake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Prove us wrong, because I still get nervous in this only preseason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm nervous watching you kick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because it's because like we like you say he missed it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fifty three yarder horribly and that twenty six yarder did barely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But miss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was it was it was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, he made the fifty nine yarder and that's great and everything is forgotten.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, like you say, I thought they were going to put them on their shoulders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, when he when he made you know that I still.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still can't get over the fact that that game that we went to were like, I was like, nah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're just going on for a down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not doing this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, we'll be back next week and we'll see about the other thing that I was mentioning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We hope to have something special but we kind of got to play it by ear.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But all right, for Ron, I'm WG, we will see when we see you piece out.