Giants SELL at the Deadline: Breaking Down the Trades & If There's A Wild Card Chance + Thoughts on Bryce Eldridge | Thompson 2 Clark

The Giants have officially waved the white flag, becoming sellers at the MLB trade deadline. On this special 250th episode of Thompson 2 Clark, Brad Evans and Garrett Gonzales break down all the major moves, including the trades of key veterans and the prospects the team acquired. What does this mean for the future of the franchise under Buster Posey's leadership? We'll analyze if top prospect Bryce Eldridge gets a chance to play this year and whether the new-look Giants have any real shot at a wild card spot. Tune in for a deep dive into the trades, the rebuild, and the remaining postseason aspirations for the San Francisco Giants.
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[SPEAKER_02]: with Drosion, throws to Sandberg and the pitches proud of the second base.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thompson has it, throws the first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's over.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Twenty seven years of waiting.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's up on the pen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Welcome to the two hundred and fifty fifth episode of Thompson to Clark Brad Evans and I double G here gonna talk about some giant space bulb, but I kind of wanted to go back because we we before we recorded we were like wait what wind did we start recording so this show and which was the creation of the network what became the network
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[SPEAKER_02]: It started because it was the pandemic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I had been bugging Brad about possibly getting back on the mic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he, you know, he had some reservations just based on time and how much he'd be able to invest it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, look, I'm going to send you a mic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to practice and see if you like it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you like it, then we'll do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And here we are over five years and now two hundred and fifty episodes later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy and I was thinking we started in July of twenty twenty but I think we started before and the reason was is because they were going to start the season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Remember that they were going to start the short and pandemic season and then they had all kinds of.
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[SPEAKER_00]: contract issues with that between major league baseball and the players association how they were going to do things and everything else so do you remember what we did in that time are lead up to to the beginning of the twenty twenty season on the show we we took
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[SPEAKER_00]: We took a bunch of teams that we thought were our favorite and best San Francisco Giants teams of all time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Pitted them against each other and out of the park baseball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We did best of seven series tournament because there wasn't much to talk about, but I mean, that was a blast.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was really fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to, I'd like to go back to that on the side sometime and out of the park baseball and do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'll add like New York Giants teams, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's kind of a fun deal.
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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... yeah i very much remember that and you know if we were if we were ahead of the game because we didn't have a youtube channel yet right so we could have put out enough out of the park would care if we just recorded those games and put them into
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but that would have been the thing we could have done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we tried to one time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think with the finals, we were going to try to do it because Zoom was fairly new.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People were just using Zoom.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going to do that and post that up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But now, obviously, we know we can screen five years later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We can screen record and do all that good stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we have baseball now, which is better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And a couple of years, we may not have baseball for a while, because the contract is coming up for Major League Baseball, and there's talk of a lockout because that would be not next year to the following year, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: The following year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the big deal is the salary cap, and we saw Manfred and Bryce Harper going at it about that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be in the news coming up.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think of Dorosis part of that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was a little bit goofy and then he came back and said, yeah, I was just joking.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So just to give context, Brad is mentioning, Manfred was, was he in Philadelphia?
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was in Philadelphia.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he came in just kind of give a quick talk and basically talk about the state of the game and how to get fans interested in everything else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he started talking about the salary cap.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Bryce Harper kind of went toe to toe with him and was like, hey, if you're going to talk about salary caps, you can just get the hell out of it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like that too.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Good.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know like that's the most strategic thing to do with your Bryce Harper.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is a little bit of a hot head.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is absolutely, but I did brand.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I did like that because
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[SPEAKER_02]: it just shows you where he's at right there's no subtlety to it he's like this is this is what I'm about and don't come in here and try to play nice because we know we're what you're doing and we don't want to be part of you playing nice so yeah exactly and I like that in the derosa
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he said something like, you know, you don't have with Rob Manfred.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess that kind of got twisted around and turned around and I don't really know that part of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then because then he came out and said, I was just kind of joking around with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he knows.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is an interesting thing for him because he is a, he's the world baseball classic team USA manager.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He is also on the MLB network.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you're kind of going like, are you analyst here or are you manager here?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think he was trying to straddle the line.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think it was also like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, because he works for both sides, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, by being the World Baseball Classic Manager, that is a chosen position from, I believe, it's probably from Manfred's office to choose the manager.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it could be the players association.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could be, I think, you know, there's a whole USA baseball organization as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it could be, you know, between two or three different organizations that get together like a commission and picks.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But either way, yeah, I mean, he's still kind of answers to Major League Baseball in that room.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the other part of it that I was thinking is, I wonder if Dorosos was trying to maybe make a little light of it to take some of the heat off of Bryce, but also I'm not a hundred percent sure he's kind of a joky guy on Major League Baseball Network.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I thought that's maybe what he was trying to do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it could have also been like,
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I've heard from man Fred.
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[SPEAKER_02]: These guys mean business.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, let's make sure we're being strategic.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There could be something like that in there, but who does?
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: What are we going to talk about today?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, we're going to have to talk about the giants selling instead of buying a trade deadline after a horrendous six game homestead in which they lost every single game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess we shouldn't be surprised.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Disappointed for sure, but I've been preparing myself for the bottom to fall out of this thing because they could not hit for a little while.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was just kind of one of those things.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like a prophecy that came true that I was expecting, but I was still mad what had happened.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like for instance, I'll give you an analogy here that's kind of timely, which is the passing of Hulk Hogan.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when I was a little kid, I was like twelve years old.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I know I was still eleven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a famous match where Hulk Hogan faced Andre the Giant on television.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And there was the twin refs and they screwed Hogan out of the belt.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I had read in the San Jose Mercury news that Friday morning, I read what was going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I went to school and I told everybody what was going to happen and it happened exactly the same way that I read it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was the man at school on Monday, by the way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I told my dad and he's like, so okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So when it happens, like you can't be mad because you already knew what was gonna happen, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because I was a Hogan fan when I was a little kid.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was one of the very first ever moments of, yeah, but still.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because Hogan lost, I was so mad even though I knew exactly what was gonna happen.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this is just like this giant season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of thought the bottom was going to fall out and they were going to come back to five hundred because that's what they've been for the last several years outside of one and it happened and I was still mad I was like I hate being right about that but now the reality is
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are fifty six and fifty six and they sold off.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're two of their best relievers, Camila Doval and Tyler Rogers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And they also sold off the Yasmini and Devil who was a kind of a polarizing player, but I think I've said this before.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like if he was just the fourth outfielder instead of the third outfielder, I think people would think of him much differently than they do.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But, um, yeah, the giants, they, they write at the deadline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got rid of a doval and just strips gain.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We thought we're like, oh, so they're going to be fine.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like they're coming back and nope, right at the end of that thing, they both were gone.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So before we even get to the prospects, I just want to get your thoughts on the three players who, uh, they let, who they traded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, the giants are a winning ball club since they cut dead weight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm kidding.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we, we, we, we love.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, as we, we, you know,
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[SPEAKER_00]: we loved hated doval and we loved Rogers and there you know there are some on social media that hated Rogers but I mean the guy was
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was productive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, when you look at his numbers with the giants, he was one of the most productive relievers of the giants had during that time span that he was on the club.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And probably, I mean, someone argued the most because there was no consistency on the back end.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He even closed some games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We remember that back in like, two thousand twenty during the pandemic here in twenty twenty one, also in twenty one, he closed that small games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hate losing them and the reason I hate losing them is because it's obvious if you lose them here in the situation where you kind of have to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to sell, you got to get somebody back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get some prospects back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to get some guys who are major league ready back and that's kind of what the giant did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The biggest loss for me is, yeah, I'm a big, big, yes guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I'd love to see Mr. Fourth Alfielder, but I also love to see him as a third Alfielder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just that Giants didn't have, you know, your typical awesome one and two Alfielders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if it was, I mean, if you had bonds and and Ellis perks, and then, yeah, then great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, you know, perfect third Alfielder, but you know, the Giants
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[SPEAKER_00]: had to pair him with, you know, Michael Conforto and Darren Ruff, all of those years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, yeah, at that point, you're thinking, man, if they had three other guys that he could be a fourth outfielder, but the way he played right field for San Francisco in that ballpark, and especially, I mean, we saw it his last game and a giant's uniform and going over the wall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: running into the net and making a nice diving grab over the right field foul wall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he has a bats weren't fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had some clutch here and there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, but he was, he was a two plus war guy, two to two point five war guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'll take that as a third outfielder if you've got too strong, other outfielder has a giant's just never did.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They could pair him with anybody.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they all hurt, but you know what, you got to move forward, you got to look at the years to come, and that's kind of the key to making those moves.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It could have been worse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, shoot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They could have gotten rid of Robby Ray.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They could have gotten rid of so many other players too, and all of those would have hurt too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, they're trying to keep the court together and do their thing and push these guys over the finish line in the coming years as the court group.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, hated it, but had to be done.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Yaz one makes a lot of sense because he is coming up for free agency, so they wouldn't have any more options on his contract.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the Doval one,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I wasn't quite sure about it because he still had some controllable years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And my thought was if you're going to trade him, you need to get something worthy in return and they went more with the quantity over quality.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It seems, but we'll go through those guys in a second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Tyler Rogers won.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they made out pretty good on that one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they got two guys who you might be able to plug in in the next this year and maybe next year for a guy who they were going to lose in free agency.
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[SPEAKER_02]: More than likely, I guess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's my take on the actual trades.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You never want to lose guys.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My Kishrimski is starting right fielder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I take it, take it or leave it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If this game, if you could have a designated fielder, my Kishrimski would be awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, if we get to that level of baseball and yeah, go, yeah, you get designated hitter, there's fielder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, great right field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You used to have defense of replacements back in the days like the eighties and nineties late in the game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You'd have a defensive replacement when you'd have like a two run leader whatnot and you just don't see that anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not the type of guy and plus.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, is he going to want to stick on a team and be a defensive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: placement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's I mean, it's first game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He goes over to Kansas City and goes yard in his first at bad against Kevin Gosman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the alternate, you know, you talk about Marvel alternate universe, and that was pretty much it right there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that was that was pretty cool.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought, you know, because there's no malice towards the strips.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want to see him do well.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you can help think of the Royals awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have any any problems with that at all.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's talk about what they got in return and the folks they got in return were
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[SPEAKER_02]: For Doval, it was Tristan Vrelling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Have you heard the pronunciation?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I've heard like Vreeling.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It was both, but the Yankees, nineteen, number nineteen prospect from MLB.com.
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[SPEAKER_02]: a race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race race
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, if you're hoping for two guys to actually show up for you for the double trade, those are the two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rodriguez seems like they think he can hit at the big league level, which is great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Not sure if he can catch at the big league level.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He may also have become a multiple position guy, but what did you think about the prospects they got for double?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you weren't super high on them.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not super high on them either, but you know what, you listening to Buster Posey and reading some of his other quotes that he has said too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're just kind of looking for guys right now that that aren't going to be ready in three or four years, but they could plug them into the roster maybe next season as quickly as next season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Are they going to be, you know, stand out the guy?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they're not going to be.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the giants are going to go on a free agency looking for those guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Or even trade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, some of these guys can be flipped for trade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And for like a Stephen Quan, like you can give a pretty decent enough package, especially if the giants can develop these guys a little bit more.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can you can trade for a piece, you know, a solid right field or whatnot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I wasn't super high on them, but I liked the idea of guys that could come in and do a little bit of damage this year and also show their development and be trade pieces down the one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so actually I was pulling the other two guys my initial research on the head, the two players.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so the other two players that they got were parks harbor, what a name.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, third baseman and left handed pitcher Carlos de la Rosa, so those are the other two names.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so then for Tyler Rogers, they received Blake Tidwell and Drew Gilbert, who were both in the top twelve of Metz Prospect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So those are the guys that I think should be able to help the giants maybe even this year, but more than likely at least next year, they also are a little bit on the older side when it comes to Prospects.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and they call basically Drew Gilbert is like another, yes, but on the younger side, blade Tidwell could possibly help you out on the back end of the rotation, which is what the Giants need.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the Giants needed some some starting pitching in return because they were getting so thin with getting rid of Harrison and, you know, and you know what the nice thing too is, I can't remember which one of these players, but one of them is is, you know, just,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Somebody ranked the prospects that were traded to every team during the trade deadline.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I want to say it might have been Gilbert was just above Tib's three James Tib's three who had the third.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who we traded over to Boston and the Devers trade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he went over to Los Angeles to the Dodgers and the Dustin May trade.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so to know that you have a guy that's like right around there, you know, of that caliber and you got him back, uh, but he's also ready to possibly be in the major soon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, this kind of a nice deal, uh, because Tibs, we knew, um, he was just gonna have a hard time hitting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they started out the season fantastic in high A ball, the new into double A and just struggled hard one over to Boston, struggled hard and their minor league system as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what's going to hurt them all is as if as if tib's the third becomes a Dodger great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Then we're going to have a. Think about think about who's there in the Dodgers organization and who drafted him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Farhan was salivating to get him back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounds like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, totally.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we got my maybe my favorite player just on name only.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How did they how did they pronounce his name?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Jose Buto.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They just called him Buto yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, because I watched the game yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I watched the game the other night and it was they called him Buto.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's my favorite guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was actually just to be clear it was Drew Gilbert who was ranked six of all the prospects traded.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is from Kylie McDaniel.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He writes for ESPN.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He put
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[SPEAKER_00]: Drew Gilbert as six of all the prospects traded James tibes the third is seventh.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we had another one in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: See who else we got blade Tidwell.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He put it number eighteen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of nice to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we had a couple players and it's up to twenty that we traded for.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, like you said, both in the same trade, both guys that could possibly help this team this year and that giants are going to need pitching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't doubt that we're going to see Blade Tidwell and Blade Tidwell is such a fantastic baseball name also, but I don't doubt that we're going to see him in the back end of the rotation probably this season at some point reports of
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bird song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His starts have been pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last two starts.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's really cut down on the walks, which is nice to see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But before that, his walk numbers were horrendous, and that's what put him back down in AAA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So having a guy like Blade Ted, well, I think it's going to be his going to be pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Booto came in yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, runners at first and second, one pitch double play got out of the inning and got whiz that win, man, which was awesome.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So speaking of was actually for a second, then we'll get to the Yash trade.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He got his first win.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's an interesting picture in today's day and age because he doesn't have a blowaway fastball and he relies on a super change up, which if you know that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're facing him, maybe all you look for is to change up because the fastballs in overpowering.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I started thinking about this, who would he kind of be comparable to in the past?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he throws harder than this guy does, but by average,
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[SPEAKER_02]: If you were to average the arms back in the early two thousands in the late nineties to today, I'm sure he sits very similarly to the person I'm going to compare him to.
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[SPEAKER_02]: If he gets the control down the way that he needs to, I wonder if he could be a version of somebody like Kirk Reader.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, I think that's a good comparison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you could be better than Kirk Reader.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he gets the control down, because you, I mean, if you watch the game yesterday, you saw what he did to Juan Soto.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, on the first pitch, change up the first time that Soto saw him, he just dropped that thing in there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Soto was so far out ahead of him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was ridiculous.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lendor hit it for home run, but he had seen a couple of those beforehand.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, yeah, like he said, the fastball and the sinker and the slider, they're just all three of those pitches are all over the place.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, but then he started attacking the zone and went to attack the zone.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, good things happen, especially early in the count.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you didn't get count leverage and then you could use that change up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That thing is so nasty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, you got it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even think he needs to hump up the fastball anymore.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he just needs to paint.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the creator.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good comparison.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The reason why I like him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: is because or why I like that comparison is because in two thousand, you know, I'm sure the average fastball was probably like less than ninety five for us today, you know, it's more than ninety five.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so Kirk is throwing, you know, mid to high eighties at most.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So his average like he's his velocity is probably like six or seven miles per hour slower.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of similar to Wizzanun, you know, his fastballs probably sit at ninety two for most of the game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I, you know, from from the day and age of evolution of baseball, I sort of feel like he's a little readery and being left handed, he could be a little bit more crafty, but it's it's really going to be about spotting the fastball because if he misses with that fastball,
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's going to give up a lot of home runs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely, because if you throw that down the middle of the plate, it's just going to get absolutely crushed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, there's going to be need to be pitch development.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's really got to work on the slider in the sinker.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The slider was just a mess yesterday, and in Sunday's game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he even went away from it and just kind of started going, look, I'm going fastball, sinker, and change him to see what I can do with those, because the slider was just pretty ugly early on, just could not locate it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So let's go back to the trades, and we're talking about the Yash trade, who they got back from him,
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[SPEAKER_02]: was probably not much, Junior Marta, the Royal's twentieth prospect, young Abol guy.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't sense that there was a lot of optimism that he's going to be like a star in the deal, but they'll, you know, they have good lower level minor league, so I'm sure he'll fit in and they'll figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But this this seemed more like let's get, yeah, somewhere where he can kind of
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[SPEAKER_02]: go do something because we don't really have plans.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to see certain players more than we need to see as on the last year of his deal.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, hate to see it, but, you know, if you can get something for him and you're a five hundred ball club at the trade deadline, you need to just gotta do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so now let's talk about this team as far as
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[SPEAKER_02]: What to expect from these guys?
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[SPEAKER_02]: They are currently set fifty six and fifty six.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We're recording this while they're playing the Pittsburgh Pirates in game one of the series in Pittsburgh.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't come home until Friday is at Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think I actually might go to Saturday's game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm planning on it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see, but I'm on to the season.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not great so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Even I are going to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm going for in the last two years.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, so we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I almost feel like I'm bad luck, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: Today, as of today, fifty six and fifty six.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're right, smack dab at five hundred.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I looked at the, or the amount of wins it would take.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And this is I'm just taking historical information.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't, I didn't take it as far as what the records are this year, but historically.
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[SPEAKER_02]: For the Giants to win the first wild card, they would have to average roughly around ninety five wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Second wild card is closer to ninety and the third wild card is like eighty six eighty seven.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So if the Giants would even get to get to eighty six wins, the Giants would have to go thirty and twenty the rest of the way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: that doesn't seem doable necessarily to me unless the team gets on a hitting streak of sorts.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because if they do, I think they do have the starting pitching that could enable them to win a lot of games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They may not have the back end of the bullpen anymore if you're relying on Ryan Walker in the eighth inning now in front of Randy Rodriguez.
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[SPEAKER_02]: both, you know, when before it's like, oh, we have Duval and Tyler Rogers, you know, or in that spot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That sounds tough.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thirty one, thirty two, thirty three, which is maybe what it will take.
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[SPEAKER_02]: To get there this year because currently the San Diego Padres are in that third wild card spot at sixty two wins so they're twelve games over five hundred and if they finished the season twelve games over five hundred that would be ninety two wins.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the chance would have to catch up, you know, they'd have to play some ketchup here in order to do that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't know what to expect.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do we expect them to play five hundred ball?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Do we expect them to play worse than five hundred ball?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or could they possibly make a small run here and make things interesting?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And just hope that San Diego is actually the team who went all in at the trade deadline.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They got the Miller kid from Oakland.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that is, you know, I fully expect them to maybe play a slightly under five hundred baseball rest of the way, but what do you think?
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[SPEAKER_02]: And do they have a chance to kind of sneak back into this thing?
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I see a lot of talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I understand, I get it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's exciting to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And to think that this team could, this team's going to be
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[SPEAKER_00]: You hit on the biggest part of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This team's going to be searching for its bullpen identity going forward.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was her strength.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it's not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now they really got to try to figure out bits and pieces.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have bivins thrown in the eighth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: every other night, now you're not, you know, your is Ryan Walker when Eric Miller comes back or those guys you can rely on as like your lights out guys, not necessarily because we've seen it, they've both struggled this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to be they're going to be hurting on the on the back end of things.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and in one run ball games, they're going to be tight and and they're going to probably blow more saves than they get and and not I shouldn't say blows saves because I know the Randy Rodriguez is going to be the issue.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess say I should say blow holes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're going to have guys who are going to come in to hold the game in the seventh or eighth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not going to quite get out of it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, you've got Buto.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just looking at the rivercats roster right now, too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, you got bird song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got Mason Black.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, other than that, I'm, I'm, I'm searching man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not seeing anybody else is gonna come in, Blade Tidwell, but again, these are mostly starters.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sean Jelly, he passed through waivers, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nobody grabbed him, and so he's back in AAA.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Carson Ragsdale was claimed by the Baltimore Orioles.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's not coming back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't see a lot of answers for the bullpen hanging out in Sacramento right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But I could be wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they could pull guys up and all of a sudden, you've got a guy who's got two just dirty pitches who translates well to the major leagues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But no, I'm thinking this is more of a five hundred ball club.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm fine with that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as soon as we started making those trades, I thought, OK, offensive.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For the giants to do something offensively, this team would need to carry them in late in ball games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you haven't seen that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There is no proof of that happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why I'm a little bit, and usually, you know, me usually I'm optimistic.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm on the pessimistic side because I'm looking at this going, I mean, there's not a lot of proof in twenty twenty five that all of a sudden this team's just going to become like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: the team that carries, you know, the offense carries this team into the playoffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I'm not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just looking for some fun baseball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm looking for guys to come up like Gilbert who are going to, you know, be a little more athletic and help this team steal bases and score some runs and do some different things, but I'm not, you know, banking too much on it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's uh, shit chat a little bit about some of the stuff from the weekend or from the week, uh, like I said, they had the horrendous home stand, which caused buster to pivot.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they came back and they won two out of three in New York.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're New York Metz fan, you're probably really pissed off because they made a bunch of trades, including grabbing Tyler Rogers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, and
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[SPEAKER_02]: one of those wins was the twelve to four win on Sunday whenever the giants win big like that I might can we just save it and read the runs for the following week like can we let's stop at six we only have six don't go to spread the rest and so we don't get
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we don't get shut out two games in Pittsburgh, but so that's a positive thing, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like that gives them a little bit of hope.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll, I don't know if you read the story, but we'll more floor as is a little sun can now go into the clubhouse.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you read that story?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he can go in during, so he could only go in during wins though, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they got to win some games at home and he can get back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, because otherwise he cries if he doesn't get a chance to go in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If they lose, he's not allowed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't allow kids, family or anybody into the clubhouse.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So apparently, and he's a little dude, so he doesn't understand, you know, games over, dads in the clubhouse, he wants to go in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Six games or no, he could not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that was kind of sad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a good story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was, was that bags, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who wrote that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The athletic about years ago when when Wilmer floors thought he was getting traded from the mats and he went out in the field and and showed some emotion.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He cried, you know, he he'd let it all out there and it was kind of upsetting to watch and fell bad for the guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But really good story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so the other thing that we need to talk about is Bryce Eldridge who hit three jacks in a game and he now has ten homeruns at AAA and you had thought maybe he comes up and I said, well, it sounds like Buster wants him to stay down there, but you had a great point, which is
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe he forces the hand and like, you know, you're you're hitting so well at AAA.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They want to give you a shot to get some babies at the end of the season here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be for it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But JJ asked me why they may not do it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, well, you also don't want him to fail when he gets here because then if I fails,
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[SPEAKER_02]: then you know and we've seen that right motto's ramos when he would first come up that he was constantly failing and these guys get down on themselves and it's it's not that though you you may learn some things that kind of get out of slumps and stuff at the big league level but you want to you want to lay it out for the guy to be to possibly be more successful and if you don't think he's fully ready
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[SPEAKER_02]: mind body and soul because there's an emotional toll to this whole thing because he's such a young kid that would be a reason to keep him down for the rest of the season when we talk about last week to it i mean i i'm at the point now where you i mean you make those trades you do it the trade deadline
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bring them on up because I know he's still working at first space and how to be a first spaceman, but I mean, we watch devours and I'm okay with getting an elder agenda first space because watching devours can be pretty painful sometimes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm all for him learning at the major league level, but the biggest factor is that he's twenty years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he was twenty one or twenty two, I think it would be a different story.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But the fact that he's twenty years old, that I get, you know, if he hangs out and ends up playing AAA, the rest of the season,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And and he's hitting like I mean, I think as I hope he asked over the last couple of weeks is like nine hundred.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But so then if he finishes the season hot on fire doesn't get any majorly get bats.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he goes in to spring training next year, his twenty one year old year with a fire to win that position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, everybody, I hear a lot of talk about, well, and Karnasihon's back and, you know, what about, what about Luciano getting his chance and everything else?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, there's a business to it too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I tried to find the options left for Ann Karnasio and I know he was signed as an international free agent.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't even know if he has options at that point then.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think you can bring him up and down if he was an international free agent, but I'm not a hundred percent sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He only has like
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[SPEAKER_00]: barely a year of service time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And his rehab was up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so they had to do something with him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You can't leave him down in AAA apparently if he has no options.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's why I'm thinking he doesn't have any options.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because otherwise I thought they would have left him down and keep swinging, keep getting a hot bad.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's bring up Luciano and see what he could do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm torn on Eldridge because like he said, I don't want to see him fail.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's a fragile kid though.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember him an interview with him last year where he was cocky, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's ready to perform on the big stage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of what I'm excited to see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so some of the moves that they made otherwise we saw
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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw a jet like you said, jelly.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He got DFA, he cleared.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Rags there that DFA, he did not clear.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's now with the Orioles.
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[SPEAKER_02]: We saw an Karnasion come back up today.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Matos went back down.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess that was it of recent.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So this can be interesting for an Karnasion because he's only got sixty games left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Or fifty games left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Sorry if there's only fifty games left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got fifty games left.
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[SPEAKER_02]: to prove that he deserves to be on this roster or else I don't think he's going to be on the roster.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And that means he's just he's got to hit because again, you're talking about the DH and a bad outfielder.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The giants have many of those guys, DHs and bad fielders, including their their number one hitter, Devers.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can't just stick in Karnasione in a position and go, hey, go out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to be our starting left field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't work like that because he's not great.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm assuming he's going to get some reps and right field though, because he's got to unless it just means that Devers is going to play some more first base, which, you know, that's going to be, that's going to hurt your infield defense a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So what do you think about an Karnasion?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Does he stick?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Does it can we even tell?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Because he's just missed so much of this season, which was going to be his put-up or shut-up season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's kind of tough.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He has missed a lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like to see him succeed, but like you said, there are some other guys I want to see play right field or DH as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, we have plenty of guys who aren't going to play right field well at Oracle.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to frustrate you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're going to miss jazz very quickly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there was something you sent me last week about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was pretty interesting about how Jungoo Lee's metrics in center field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: make it sound like he's not necessarily a center fielder that he could be a left fielder or a right fielder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you move Jung who lead a right and he learns how to play Oracle right field and you put Grant McCrain center field and now all of a sudden you've got a stellar defense about field again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what did that get us?
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[SPEAKER_00]: A stellar defense about field and it is a whole lot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When the rest of the lineup isn't doing anything, it really becomes a glaring hole.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I'd like to see Hank Arnassio and it's some towering home runs and it's some line drives of hundred and ten plus, which we've seen he can.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, you're running out of time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We're in August now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're going to start our auditioning guys for next year, we're kind of at that point now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't really want to wait until September first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the conversation about Jung who was maybe he could be like a really like a gold glover in left field, sort of like how Kwan has turned into such an asset defensively, and that he's not maybe he's not as good in center field.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe you do go and find a better defensive center fielder, and then you can push Jung who it's a left, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: problem is, you can't have two guys who are just single sitters because that way, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's really bad for your outfield.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So it'd have to be someone who could hit a little bit to play in center.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, before we get to our new, this week in giant history segment, we do have
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[SPEAKER_00]: player of the week to talk about yeah is our player of the week yeah and it's a guy I I was just saying he's on fire jungoo lee is our player of the week the guy is uh just tearing it up right now not not only is he tearing it up
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got an eleven point five percent walk rate over the last week too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's getting on base.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His strikeout rate is down to three point eight percent for the week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the guy who we thought we were getting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, an article I'd read over the week over the weekend pretty much said that Bob Melvin was very, very happy that he was starting to go the other way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Basically, like we used to say, when we played, takes some shaft out, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And go the opposite field, just slap stuff in a center field and for him opposite field is left field.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So to see him going that way, it is really, really nice.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And he hit three, sixty four on the week with a five hundred slugging, on base percentage of four, sixty two.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, stole a couple of bases.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the thing that we like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exact scored four runs because when he gets on base, people are driving him in and that's what we want to see from junk who Lee now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Does he, does he work his way back into the three hole or even the lead off hitter because you tired of seeing Elliott Ramos?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you said last week we were talking about it on the chat.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is he bad?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Why is Elliott Ramos badting lead off?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, uh, Jung Hulu is gonna force that to change a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, my thought with that is just that you're trying to get Ramos to see fastballs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the ways you can do that is start the game with him.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, he, he's not, there's nobody on base.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So you don't have to worry about him being pitched around a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe he does see a few more fastballs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That was just my guess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, he's not your prototypical leadoff hitter.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And he doesn't really run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so you're just hoping that he sees the opportunity to hit some extra base hits.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if he does hit an extra base hit in the leadoff spot, a lot of the time is going to be nobody on base.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's a little bit of like a conflicting message there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so yeah, I'm glad that I'm glad that
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[SPEAKER_02]: if if young who could actually fit in that spot, I think it does help the lineup because that's kind of where he that's where he fits as a player that's what his his, you know, his stats have said and you know, or maybe a two a two slot hitter, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: He does a two.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, power to do what some of the managers want their two hitters to do, but still
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[SPEAKER_02]: I just, you just see Robles there and you're like, okay, either this guy's going to hit a double or he's going to strike out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so, you know, that's kind of the thing with that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: You want, you want that table setter, you know?
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[SPEAKER_00]: It would be nice to see McCray, because I know McCray is getting a lot of that bats right now, having McCray bat ninth, and then Jung Hulie first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem with McCray batting ninth right now that I see is like, when Patrick Bailey gets on ahead of him,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the Craig gets up, and he hits a ball that he thinks could possibly be a triple.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got Patrick Bailey in front of you.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's not slow?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we joke because he's a catcher.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, inside the park home run.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But still, when you got a guy like Patrick Bailey in front of you, you really want to see Grant McCray like he used those wheels.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, if there's any way they can pair jungle-leading grant and create together in the line of summer, I think that merely not really nice to see.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So our this week in baseball history, so just to let some of the listeners in on the kind of the inside baseball, if you will, of the show, I've been trying to figure out a way to use AI to help us improve our rundown.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And one of those things was to create a bot that would do a giant history segment.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Like this week in giant history, I don't really care what time frame it is.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the problem with it is the information.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not always great because when we double check the information where like, okay, this date is wrong.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm going to really work.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to work next week on trying to really revel on that thing and get that thing to actually work because what
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[SPEAKER_02]: Google AI wanted me to, or a Gemini, it's called, what they wanted me to use was really maze is six hundredth home run.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But when I fact checked it, really maze is six hundredth home run was actually in September, not in August.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm going to I have to like I don't I can't really reverse engineer it, but I'm really trying to wonder what what they think that that is and why there's the mix up in AI terms is called a hallucination when the information is just wrong.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, but there is an August first.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Willy May statistic August first, nineteen sixty one.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Willy Mays hit four home runs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: in a game against the Milwaukee Brewers leading the giants to a fourteen to four victory.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This happened at county stadium.
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[SPEAKER_02]: He also drove in eight runs and the funniest thing is about that game is he was possibly not going to play because he was ill and thought he had food poisoning.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So will it you're telling me will he maze it for jacks when he possibly had
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[SPEAKER_02]: both diarrhea and wanting to throw it at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Amazing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's, that's, that's his flu game, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's his flu.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the Michael Jordan flu game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The grades, man, the grades when they get sick, they dial in a little bit more and it seems so crazy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you and I, when we get sick at least, I, you power through, when I get sick,
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[SPEAKER_00]: I dial it down, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I look for any excuse to stop.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a thing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm a go-go-go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're a go-go-go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: When you get sick, you're like, I'm gonna do another show on top of that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm good, man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, man, no, it's...
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it's it's a mind thing for me, like your mind is saying, you know what if I relax, I'm going to feel better, which is smart.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And my brain says, if I relax, I'm going to actually feel worse, try and not relax and try and pretend like it doesn't exist in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just, when I get sick, I get on the couch and I'm like, let me try this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's it like to lay on the couch and just watch TV?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I don't really know what that's like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I give it a shot and then I'm like, okay, and then same thing, I get restless and then I try to take an app and the nap doesn't work.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I'm like, I'll go to bed early and then ten o'clock rolls around.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't go to bed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I don't know, it's a mess.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so last segment here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, before we get to the last time, I just wanted to read through the, uh, the standings here, which I find to be very interesting because there's so many nice, uh, races going on right now.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The fillies, this is all based on yesterday.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't have, I don't know if any teams have finished today's game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're having been many games in a play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're all playing right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Philly's half game lead on the Metz in in the east.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's a nice that's and it's going to be a nice race down these last fifty games.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Brewers two games ahead of the Cubs.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So another solid race in the central and the Dodgers three games up on the Padres with the giants like
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[SPEAKER_02]: kind of peeking in, but maybe not really peeking in.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They're just like hanging out there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And in the AL, you have the go-go Blue-Jace Jesus.
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[SPEAKER_02]: This is what happens when you can hit the baseball man.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right?
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[SPEAKER_02]: There are three games ahead of the Red Sox and four and a half games ahead of the Yankees.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The Tigers who have kind of come back down to Earth a little bit, they no longer have the best record in baseball, which in fact,
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[SPEAKER_02]: be long to the Milwaukee Brewers of
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[SPEAKER_02]: The the tigers are eight games ahead of the guardians.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think we're in the clear there unless there's a major fallout.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the Astros are two or two and a half games ahead of the Mariners.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So nice little little race there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Mariners did a lot of stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the you know at the all star break is mainly getting you when you will swars.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought you were going to say are you any overlays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like this is still playing.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, are you any overlays?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, he's
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, hands of stone right there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hands of stone, big time man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all that speed and can do anything with it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Willie Mays Hayes.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So the Americanly wild card race, the red socks, Yankees and the Mariners are in the top three with the Rangers, the Guardians, the Royals and are are kind of in the mix.
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[SPEAKER_02]: There, you know what's funny is the Giants traded Yistremski.
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[SPEAKER_02]: They have almost the same record as the royals.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The royals are just a little bit closer in the mix than the giants are.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of a funny thing.
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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the different leagues.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a little bit more open there, the American League wildcard because, yeah, I mean, they're just hanging out three and a half games back.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's Boston, New York and Seattle with the wildcards there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know how Seattle is, Seattle can just all of a sudden fall apart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what they do.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Texas hasn't shown that they could really jump ahead.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The guardians are having a
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[SPEAKER_00]: a betting scandal going on so they're losing pitching left and right to that so yeah I mean it's kind of kind of a little bit open and you figure too if you've got Bobby with junior right you got to do what you can try to afford man yeah get him into the playoffs each year because that team could do some damage you know so yeah
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[SPEAKER_02]: Nationally wildcard decubs the mets and the pod rays of the top three with Cincinnati and then the giants four and six games back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Marlins are also six games back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Cardinals are six and a half games back.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so let's finish up this show the two hundred and fiftyth episode of Thompson and Clark with a little bit of old guy Ali here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I celebrated Crystal and I celebrated our fifth wedding anniversary, which kind of coincides with this podcast as far as, as how many years we've been doing this.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, right.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Crystal and I got married not too long after we kicked off this podcast.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, we were doing the thing about, you know, gifts, you know, we just, we, we kind of get anything we need and we don't really need a ton.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I had mentioned our pickleball experience a couple of weeks ago and, you know, we're all in on pickleball by the way.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's so fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I had purchased a couple of new paddles for us at a bag and some pickle balls.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I, I was just gonna, it was kind of a,
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[SPEAKER_02]: a gift for both of us because we're we're playing together for our anniversary and then you know a few days for the anniversary comes she's like just FYI you know we probably don't really need to spend a lot of money on gifts and you know let's let's try and keep it under twenty five bucks in this and that and I was like well okay but I already spent the money so who cares
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[SPEAKER_02]: um but uh so she had given me uh for our anniversary I guess fifth anniversary is the like wood is kind of like the you know the what the different anniversaries you there's like two times to the gifts or whatever so the wood the wood anniversary so she gave me a
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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not even a glass because it's not made out of glass, but it's a whiskey goblet or something made out of wood.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what I'm very cool.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I like that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And as I was thinking about doing old guy Ali, I was like, wait a second.
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[SPEAKER_02]: How long has Brad and Denise been married because you sent trees you guys were dating when we were in college.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I know it goes back at least that far and I know how long we've been at college.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was thinking about your your your next anniversary what numbers that going so we so we met in nineteen ninety seven
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then then started dating like early, ninety-eight.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We knew each other from class, advertising, advertising class at San Jose State.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And as ages ago, we got married in two thousand one, like a month after nine eleven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It was already planned.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We had everything planned where we're going to go to Disney World for our honeymoon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: and didn't even really get through the planning stage and the nine eleven happen were like, yeah, we're not flying to.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're not flying to Florida a month after that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we drove down to Disneyland for our for our for Honeymoon.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we did Disneyland and not scary farm because we went on Halloween because we got married October twenty seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this year is our twenty fourth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the Willie Mays Anniversary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The twenty four year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The so next year in twenty twenty six is the twenty fifth.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know what it is.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are those?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the funny thing is I don't even think Denise knows.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we're too keen on what are you celebrating?
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[SPEAKER_00]: What's twenty five years?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's silver.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is that silver?
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[SPEAKER_02]: Is the silver anniversary?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's look it up anniversary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Materials.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Sterling silver.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The first the first anniversary is cotton paper paper.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, the second is cotton.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Twenty for fifth is silver.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't even know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we're in we're the same.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we don't buy anything for each other for anniversary.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We go places.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this this and we always go because it's right around the problem is we got married October twenty seven.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then we moved to Nevada.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The last Friday.
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[SPEAKER_00]: of every October is Nevada day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The day that Nevada was brought into the union and became a state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So they celebrate Nevada day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So the last Friday of every October you get that day off.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's usually right around Halloween also.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we don't go anywhere because the kids used to be doing like all mean activities and we like being here for Halloween.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we always go
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[SPEAKER_00]: Veterans day like you steal a free day off right right by going around that time and there's less people and stuff like that so so this year we're going to Vegas and and we're actually staying at like a super fancy marriott and stuff like that for a couple of years so that's kind of what we do and and yeah I don't I guess silver I don't know maybe I'll
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, we need some new butcher knives.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are silver eggs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll do that next year.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe somebody on the Giants could actually win a silver sluggers award.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, that'd be nice.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, there we go.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so that is it from here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Happy to fifty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you if there's anybody out here out there who's listened to all two hundred fifty.
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[SPEAKER_02]: My heart is is with y'all and you know, funny, you know, we talk about the reviews on apple podcasts and such and yeah, I'm actually mentioning this one because it kind of bothered me, but
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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, we are the Bay Area Sports Podcast Network.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And somebody said, somebody wrote it and said, I love the giant stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I like the warrior stuff.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But the Valkyrie stuff caused me to unsubscribe.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was like, what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like, you know what?
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[SPEAKER_02]: I, okay, if you're a Valkyrie fan, I mean, if you're not a WMBA fan or not a Valkyrie fan, and you see the title in the feed,
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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess unsubscribers find rather than just like delete like just oh yeah delete this one but I want to hear these you know I want to hear the giant stock I want to hear the warrior stock.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is right smack dab in the middle of the WMBA season so of course we're going to have more Valkyries podcast than Warriors podcast but we're going to start picking up on Niners Rod and I are going to be back this weekend.
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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's going to be after the first preseason game.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It the work kind of tentatively scheduled for after the the first preseason game if it doesn't happen and week we go to the next day then that may happen as well, but I'll schedule it in for the YouTube live stream will schedule it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Brian is back from his vacation.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we'll have something hopefully this week, Valkyries related.
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[SPEAKER_02]: And the Valkyries are, Valkyries are essentially the giants, except.
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[SPEAKER_02]: It is their first season and they don't have any marquee players in their right in the mix of the playoffs to the right at the end there.
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[SPEAKER_02]: The eighth seed is what they're fighting for and they don't have like their brand new team.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're they also forming.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They also haven't been five hundred like twenty-seven years in a row.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, sorry about that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: But if the Valkyries get in the playoffs, I think that'll be pretty fun and maybe Brian and I will do something pretty special for that.
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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, that is it from here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks everybody for listening and sticking with us for two hundred and fifty episodes here.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Appreciate it.
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[SPEAKER_02]: So for Brad, I am double G. We will see you when we see you piece out.
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[SPEAKER_02]: Peace.