Breaking Down the Final Week & NL Wild Card Scenarios, Clayton Kershaw vs Giants | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_02]: with Drosion, throws to Sandberg on the pitch is proud of the second base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thompson has it, throws the first, it's over 27 years away and he got hooked on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then you're going to have someone to put it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is the last week of the regular season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in MLB this uh... and the giants are not yet eliminated and that is a good thing six games left right we we got six games left as a recording of this we got one tonight there's only three games in major league baseball today on the last Monday

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[SPEAKER_00]: of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that must mean that giants have Thursday off this week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, correct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm guessing those teams who have today offer playing Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it'll be for the rest of Major League Baseball except for six teams, it's going to be baseball Tuesday, straight through to Sunday, which is kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I would have liked that for us, but that's

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[SPEAKER_02]: the giant we you know we kind of had a battle plan for the giants last week we said here's how they can still make the win the third wildcard and some of that had to do with going into Arizona and winning two out of three which they did not the only one one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then going in to L.A.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and splitting, which they did not, they only won one, so it was a failure of a week last week, and as you can tell, their pitching staff is just fumes right now, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have, you have,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Justin Verlander is really the kind of the one who's pitching best.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like Logan Webb is still battling, but Justin Verlander is kind of the one who's pitching the best of his season so far right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Robbie Ray is on fumes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The giants are having to patch work some starts with Kaiwei Tang.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, today they got a really good start of Trevor McDonald's who

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[SPEAKER_02]: and people are wondering like oh where's this guy been well he's been in triple A with a five point three something Yeah, that's where he's been and then, you know, it's just You don't want you don't you hate to look back and go well look at the trades that they made well They gave up the bullpin at the deadline which is part of the reason why they're struggling to put together these games And then but then something good

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[SPEAKER_02]: came out of that, which was a, you know, Drew Gilbert, which was an opportunity for Eldridge to play a little bit, and we'll talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Also, they brought up today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, Sue's Rodriguez, though, he's on the taxi squad, so he's not on the actual roster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think they just want him up here for the last week of the season, just to kind of feel like a big

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think with three games back really four games back because they like lose it almost all the tiebreakers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's really like they need to win every game and these other teams need to struggle.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So more than likely by midweek they're probably going to be officially eliminated but I did want to give out the schedules for the

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[SPEAKER_02]: the remaining schedules for the wild card.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, since he who is currently tied with the meds, do you know who is the tiebreaker there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know what, I meant to look that up today and I didn't get to it, but that's an interesting one, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way Major League Baseball has it on our website and the standings is they have Cincinnati over the meds on guessing they have the tiebreaker, but I don't know 100%.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the Cincinnati Reds have the tiebreaker over the meds having won the season series between the two teams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is wild.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's insane because that team is also kind of running on fumes as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, Ellie Delacruz has been hurt most of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't even have 40 stolen bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that tells you how his legs are doing right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's kind of banged up, but you know, they're winning ball games when they should.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The reds have three against the pirates.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the pirates are currently 67 and 89.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not quite the Rockies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do not rival those.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So not quite the white socks, but they are right there with the rest of the team's who nationals as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're a reds fan, you go, hey, we got to sweep these three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the hope is that you go into Milwaukee and that Milwaukee sees that they are already set to either be the first or the second seed in the national league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have a three game lead on the Phillies right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe if they clinch at some point, maybe they rest their guys on that last homestand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you're a red fan, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have three against the cubs on the road that the cubs are struggling right now, and then you have three on the road against the marlins.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe a little bit more favorable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, I don't know which schedule I'd rather have to end the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: flailing and we haven't since I don't know June and July maybe you know we had a nice little boost there last month so

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're also baseball fans and I would imagine most people listening to this are also baseball fans so it's all you can ask for some really good fun races and you got Cleveland one game behind the you know falling apart Detroit Tigers For for that division so it's really fun just to kind of watch these races during the last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have that MLB dot TV subscription that you and I get every year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to be using the hell of it because I mean, I'm sure they're going to be on, you know, I'll be network and whatnot, ESPN and all of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm still going to have those games up and just kind of on in the background because yeah, I want to see, you know, it's basically this week for a lot of teams, it's playoff baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The playoffs basically start today in tomorrow for a lot of these teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's fun to watch up and down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: by the way, we want to shout out Rob who's in the channel.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was shouting out some of the other giant podcasts and you know, it's funny because what we do

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[SPEAKER_02]: is kind of in our own little bubble, like I don't even think of us as like necessarily like a giant's podcast competing with other pod, oh, just like, oh, we just want to talk about the giants and what I love the idea that there are other giants podcasts out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He wants to shout out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the Hum baby baseball giant sports talk live in the even year dinosaur even your dinosaur gets they get a lot of live streams so shout out to them but all of you know all of this stuff with the giant ecosystem of podcasts and stuff they're just like us they're just hanging out and shit chatting with their buddies and talking about baseball so thanks to Rob for checking in with us on live feed so now you look at the diamond backs and I think the diamond

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[SPEAKER_02]: Had they not had such a hard last six games?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I still kind of think they're better than those teams, but they have the Dodgers at home, and we'll be Diamondbacks fans for these three games, of course.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they're on the road at San Diego to end the season for three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they have a bit of a tougher road and which makes me think that,

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're probably not going to be able to catch either team, but if I mean, we're not rude.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't really care who gets it if it's the giants and it's like who cares, but I kind of sort of would like to see the NL West take three of those spots because that shows how tough that division was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then obviously the giants, we have three at the cards are three here of versus the cards and then three here versus Rockies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Can we just sweep

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can we, is it peanut?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, thinking about that before before we went on, you know, I'm in there getting my snack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got my yogurt and peanut butter and I'm mixing it up and I go, you know what I want this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just want I just want a six and a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we make the playoffs, we make the playoffs after that, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just want to see a six and a week for fun get above 500 play really exciting fun baseball this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: go out on a on a high note for the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of people, you know, if that happens a lot of people are going to be like, what if we would have won this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: June or this one in August and blah, blah, blah, blah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is what it is, you know, the 160 games you could look at that every season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we can go back to 1993 right we do which we do we can find ourselves two games one game here and there it's not that hard but we don't want to do that because that's not really you know what this show is about we don't usually go back and say what if and oh it's so frustrating we got to fire melvin because on June 21st

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, at 405 p.m., he made the wrong decision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but yeah, I want to see a six and a week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be super awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could we get it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're probably good, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Put some heat on these teams, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Make it fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, it'll be interesting to see, I guess McDonald will get another start before the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder when it, okay, you know, this is all with the idea that they're going to be in it until they're not in it, I would imagine everyone who's in in the rotation is going to figure out their final starts, but then if you are eliminated.

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[SPEAKER_02]: maybe Spencer Evans gets a shot to start.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe, Carson was in hunt, who is, I think he's still rehabbing, possibly comes back and you get him one more start so he can kind of head into the off season on a good note rather than on an injured note.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And those are some of the things that they're going to figure out depending on, you know, because if they're still in it, I think they're going to play all of these games to win them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because that is kind of how you do it in baseball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You owe it to those other teams who are also in the mix to give it your best.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Giants players want to anyways, and that's a whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These guys, I mean, Willie Thomas wants to hit 30, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Devers has 32, but he'd like to have 35.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, Devers has an opportunity to play a 163 games this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right because of the trade because of the trade.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He came over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He played that Sunday that he was traded.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Giantston play Monday and play the first game that the Giants had next on the schedule on that Tuesday and you and I were there will always have that memory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got his first hit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I put it on on YouTube a little short that he hit that double, which was nice.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we were just thinking, we're like, oh, man, if this guy can do this every single, you know, every single game, we're in the mix and then it just went on to lose like every game for the next weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think him and Adomas, now that they're settled, they're going to have spring training together in Arizona, second season there for, you know, for Adomas, first spring training for Devours, but he's been with the team for half a season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think those guys are going to come out of the shoot next year and just be massive offensive forces for the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have those guys in the middle and line up for an entire season,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I do have a bone to pick with one wheelie, a domis because, you know, well, the giants, like the story of this series against the Dodgers was an inability to take advantage of opportunities and I don't even remember which game it was, but it was one of the first two games I believe and they load the bases.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And William Domus has the opportunity to be a bit of a hero.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm putting myself in the shoes of how I've looked at other big-time Giants players.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How I've looked at someone like Jeff Kent, someone like Barry Bond, someone like Will Clark, someone like Matt Williams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, Matt Williams had a lot of strikeout in his swing when he was a younger player.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you had this like Buster Posey would do one of these as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You had this confidence that these guys were going to have really good at bats because in the clutch, you just trusted that they were ready to rise to the opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm watching this Adam as AB

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he was trying to hit the baseball literally to the moon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it was training who is on the mound.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, training's got that went when the cutter and stuff is on like in the little saying like he's some of those pictures are almost unhittable because he can yeah, he can get to the corners on that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I'm thinking like, okay, if you are thinking of this may be our only real opportunity, who knows to score some runs, but it's it's a great opportunity and you're a domis and you're thinking like, okay, I'm thinking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: single.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you hit the single in the right spot, maybe it's double, I'm not thinking grand slam because the worst thing you can do is strike out because who hits behind you now has two outs and and the pictures on a roll, having to strike up the guy, like you need to put the ball in play and you need to have an idea of like, this is what I need to do in this at bat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know, maybe the idea, maybe the Pat Burrell way is to like, yes, swing out of your ass because if you do make contact, it's going to go a long way in your the hero.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just wanted this dude to put the ball in play and make the Dodgers play baseball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he didn't, he didn't come close.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he takes a, you know, he worked the, he worked the A. B. Or I think he had a foul ball, then then he took a

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[SPEAKER_02]: But never in that at bat, did I think, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's coming through and it wasn't that I thought he wasn't going to come through.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was based off of that how he was swinging.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you know, there were some clutch moments where Buster would be up and you're like, I see Buster is taking a little bit off of his swing, or he's actually trying to go the other way with this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he's not trying to drive this thing into the bleachers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's actually just trying to put good wood on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Adam says literally trying to put this thing out of the park.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was just like, I wish, and this is you and I just being old dudes, like I wish the situational hitting

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[SPEAKER_02]: was a little bit more like it was when when we were younger like this home run or nothing mentality it frustrates me so much in these scenarios because what you're doing is you're letting the picture off the hook by you know

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[SPEAKER_02]: power swinging when really you have the strength to just muscle you do you have the strength to do a normal swing the guys throwing 97 and you can put good wood on it and that ball is going to go you do not need to swing out of your shoes in this moment and so I was so frustrated in that because that was I was like that is

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[SPEAKER_02]: what, where I don't really have faith in a Domus and Devours right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They swing so hard at pitches that they miss so badly, that you kind of wonder like, what were you that you actually looking for?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Or did you just get fooled so badly?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And where is the thing where you go?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, let me shorten up a little bit here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't need to match this dude's power as much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can just get a good swing on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that balls, I'm gonna drive that ball no matter what.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and so I was just so frustrated in that moment and I was like, and yet that is how the giants hit this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I was going to say when it shows you the holes in the lineup too, because I'm okay with that on the flip side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying, I'm okay with that because if you got two guys who are going to hit 30 home runs each, that's what you get.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when the rest of your lineup is like you always say, is it punch or is it

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[SPEAKER_00]: which ones up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The rest of your lineup is like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then yeah, you need those guys to drive in your runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get a basis loaded situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't need you to hit a home run right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need you to get a sack fly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need you to drive the ball in the gap or bloop it over the short stops head and drive in two runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But maybe next year we have some of those guys that you can say, all right, now you can swing out of your ass, because the guy behind you is going to probably put the ball and play somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you take your shots, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, and also do you think it's a push for 30 swing?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think that some of those swings or push for 30 swings are like they're like, hey, we've lost a couple of games to the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I really want to get to those 30 home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is my situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you're right, I mean, you're taking treatment off the hook.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're basically telling them, you don't have to throw a strike here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just swinging hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you throw something on the outside corner of the play, I'm going to swing hard, and I'm just dribble it back to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because anything over the middle of the play, I'm going to crush it, but you don't have to even go there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, and you know, I understand your point

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I, you know, because this was something that they preached in the off season, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Buster preached situational hitting like I need to get better at that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He preached a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some guys are like that though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the problem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And maybe they need to rebuild the roster to build around some guys like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, we lost one of the punch and Judy all stars just the other day and Brett wisely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know, man, that guy could put the ball on play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, he was the quintessential Farhan's ID player who you can just bring up and down and back and forth and left and right and they finally ran on options like after oh yeah and we and we thought cost was the same guy and we thought you know for a while Casey Schmidt was the same guy those guys who kind of separated themselves a little bit But we thought oh you could take the beard off of this guy and put it on this guy and it's the same guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean that's good

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the three bearded infielders, yeah, so that was kind of, you know, it was kind of funny and have all those guys, but yeah, yeah, I mean, it helps to, it helps the, the case you Schmidt has kind of separated himself a little bit and cost a separate himself again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those guys are slumpy hitters too, and they're streaky big time, so if you can get more guys that can put the ball in play, to go with your swing from the shoes hitters, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're building a lineup and I think that's what Buster Posey wants to do because he's seen it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's seen, you know, we've had one Uribe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had Edgar Renteria.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've had those guys, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in those lineups with with Buster Posey and and Andres Torres and all those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can mix and match and have a nice lineup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just can't have two guys who swing from their shoes and the rest of the guys are, you know, K or grounded into double play guys because that's that's just hard to

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[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think of Bob Melvin's quote when they had kind of asked him, you know, the podries and the Dodgers or a head, like, do you think they're that much better than you guys?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he said, he said, no, and I guess, maybe that's the right thing publicly to say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But we just watch them three games again, four games against the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there's a there's definitely a talent separation there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They could not beat the Padres.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They struggled.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They lost the series against the Diamondbacks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you look at the NL West, like I saw stat that said, if they even were even against those three teams,

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[SPEAKER_02]: instead of being so far below 500 against those three teams that they'd actually be three games ahead of the third wild card rather than where they are today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's kind of how you measure yourself is against the best teams in your division.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I'm not sure I believed Bob Melvin when he said he didn't think there was that big of a difference between his team and the Dodgers and the Podrace.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, if you're, if you're matching, you know, effort and attitude, and maybe they're pretty close, but if you're matching talent, now it's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the Dodgers definitely have a better, they have a better team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They, they still right now have a better organization altogether, and, and so yeah, I mean, you're gonna say that if you're in a manager of the giants, you're gonna bump your team up and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, not to bring football into it, but, but, you know, Rams lost a heartbreaker to the Eagles yesterday and I saw some stuff this morning say, I'd, I'd, I'd, I'd be more afraid of the Rams than the Eagles right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, the Rams blew a 267 lead and lost the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you just kind of have to say those things if you're if you're an executive you have to say these teams are close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be more afraid of this team and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's where Melvin was kind of coming from.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he's got to say face and pretty much say my.

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[SPEAKER_00]: My team is pretty close to this team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And and I guess your.

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[SPEAKER_02]: putting a little bit of pressure on yourself and you're not putting pressure on your boss who's putting together this roster because if you say yeah they're a little bit more talented than us and it's like hey buster like yeah you get some more guys I mean the busters only had you know he's only had one off season so

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's already with Chapman.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he was really had it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a head start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He signed Chapman before he fired Farhan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was talking to my son, my youngest JJ, and he said, it doesn't feel like the giants will ever beat the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It just feels like

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[SPEAKER_02]: from an organizational perspective, they just have the upper hand.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I said, right now, yes, but the thing that you have to look closely with is how quickly

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[SPEAKER_02]: do these guys age out for the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: For the first time ever, we've seen Moogie Betts have kind of an off year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We've seen the injury bug catch up with Freddie Freeman.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Will Smith, I think he's out for the entire season as well, which is rough, like they're playing, like a couple of like AAA catchers, I think, at this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so there are, and you know, your football reference was funny

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was going to open this show saying, well, at least we have football, and then the Rams lost and like the most heartbreaking fashion ever, yeah, and the Niners lose Nick Bosta to NACL injury for the second time in like four seasons, so it's just like it's not mad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If football is one of those, you know, that's that's what I love about baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got 162 games, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, guys,

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[SPEAKER_00]: had some arm issues.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to miss four or five stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, you've got a 40 man roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got depth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got minor leagueers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got stories because the guy can come up and pitch, you know, a great game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, and then you go, oh, that's a great story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's going to fill in for the next three or four games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We could ride this for the next month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And our next two three weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's see how it plays out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: With football, you lose a guy like both so and you go,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, that's like, you know, one quarter of a stellar defensive line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now what do you do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you've got 14 games left and then the playoffs, possibly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's the heartbreaking thing with baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's why kids.

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[SPEAKER_00]: baseball is a better sport.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a worry about people get hurt so much.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Except maybe if you are in the Dodgers organization and you have an injured angels fan in your.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You want to see trout just be on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wait, did he hit?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did he hit?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The other day home at number four hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Number four hundred man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was on 399 for a really long time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the way he started the season as well is, oh, man, he's going to hit that, you know, 400 quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to hit it and I'm like, May, no, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd love to see him play 150 games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's unfortunate.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's done, you know, but yeah, just for him to be so banged up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I guess, you know, what I would say is, and not that you hope for any of this, you want the teams to be to play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're a giant fan and you're looking at where can you kind of close the gap on the Dodgers some of it isn't just the Dodgers best players could possibly get old now Showhake it probably hit like Showhake for at least the next six years the way that he swings the bat Yeah, just flicking his wrist and hitting home runs over the left field fence

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's the guy that I think is just going to be in our nightmares for as long as we're doing this podcast, but it's the other guys how they fill in the gaps with

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[SPEAKER_02]: Uh, whenever mooky bets ages out, whenever Freddy Freeman ages out, who do they have in the pipeline?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of these guys, they've had to sell to, uh, you know, sell off and trades.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're always replenishing their farm system.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that would be kind of how you, you make some gains.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you just hope that some of these, these picks that you made.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And some of these free agent acquisitions you've made.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And the trade with divers, you hope that that stuff pays off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you can kind of, you know, inch by inch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: creep closer to them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I do wonder if you look at the way the Dodgers handle pitching, because we saw this, we saw this early in the season when it worked for the giants, is that the way the Dodgers handle pitching is, you know, outside of Yamamoto, you know, it's like five in dive for like every single one of their guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: glass now is fantastic, but you know that he's not seeing the eighth inning.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like he he he he he I don't know how many times he's even pitch in the eighth inning is in his entire career.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that is not what they expect out of him Blake Snell we saw the Blake Snell experience we know what that's all about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're advantage isn't building your rotation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because by the time when you are playing head to head versus the Dodgers and you got Logan Web out there and it's the eighth inning and the Dodgers are already on their third reliever of the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: In a head to head series, the cleaner your starting rotation is, the more

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[SPEAKER_02]: the more you can use your bullpen strategically whereas sometimes the Dodgers just have to use their arms over and over and over and over and you see stuff like Tanner Scott giving up the grand slam to Patrick Bailey and that's that may be the one advantage that you can have over them is the way that you run your rotation out there just because of the strategic and stylistic differences and how they look at pitching.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I also wanted to shout out Ghost who's in the chat,

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[SPEAKER_02]: the avenue to our channel was through Valkyrie stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I love I love seeing the folks who you know who watch the Valkyrie stuff and then come through on on our other channels.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's our on our other shows.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's it's super fun for me to see familiar faces so shout out to both of you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I just want to tell you, glass now pitched eight complete innings on April 21,

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the only time he did it last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He hasn't done it this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got it a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, got it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so let's move on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What will stay?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll hang on on the on the giant stodgers talk for a second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know what, we might as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess we should just do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's just go bitter giants here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: at home for the Dodgers, is he not starting the week or is that just his last start at home?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was his last start at home regular season play off different story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could be, you know, he could be he could get a start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he'd get a start in the probably coming out of the pen in the in the first round.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would think so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he could start a game if they go into the next into the next series, you know, because

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[SPEAKER_02]: And good written is what I say, because he dominated the giants like nobody else, I think in the history of major league baseball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I was thinking about it, because if you remember, he and Lindsey come.

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[SPEAKER_02]: were young pitchers, I didn't think, Lens comes a little bit older than him, I think, around the same time and, you know, Lens come comes up in 2008, 2009, Sa Jung, and then the Giants win it all in 2010.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Kursha was just on a roll, like maybe this single most consistent picture of the national league in the last 15 years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the difference was always in how they pitch in the postseason.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Lindsey come in in 2010 was the MVP of the of the entire postseason after winning game six against Texas and then Lindsey come has a really good 2011 and then in 2012 he just falls off just big time and he does help in the 2012 Playoffs as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He comes out of the bullpen and helps that team

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then in 2013, 2014, just dreadful, 2015, dreadful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then he soon, soon he's gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you look at Kersha, who was so consistent up until recently, where he's definitely lost something, and that's just due to age.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he had he never had those playoff moments in the same way that that Lensacom did his you know the the photo that the meme was just of him in the dugout sitting on the bench holding his head like that was the meme right and you know you wonder how these guys are so competitive like I wonder how much

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he had a linsicum 2010 moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder how many of his regular season dominance he would give up just to have that linsicum 2010 scenario where he was the man because you know, Kursha wanted to be that he desperately wanted to be that they even tried to run him out there like madbomb that one year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Remember,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, where he came and he pitched in the end of just like that whole thing, like Lens to come in Madbum had these just historic playoffs, and then Kursha just never had it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's got two rings though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't take that away from him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He does have two rings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some will say that one of them is what do they say at Mickey Mouse Ring?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was kind of... That was kind of mean, because then the giants had Mickey Mouse Day at a local bar questionnaire.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That really made Dodger fans mad by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I had money and buddy was just like it's so mad He's like you guys are trolling what the hell it should make the man It should be mad about that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nobody should be happy about that world series title if you're a Dodger fan But I guess I would say What what is your Kursha Memory and it doesn't have to be a positive one because there's so many Positive for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't have to be positive for them

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like when you think of Kursha, what it was the first thing that comes to your mind?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, when I think of Kursha, I think the first thing that comes to my mind is the meme.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the, you know, faltering in October.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the falling apart in October and giving up tons of hits and tons of runs and getting losses when the team counted on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in a world where we are right now, where everybody's feeding off of the hate and this type of stuff, and divisiveness, you know, I always try to bring things together, and you know, show some love and this and that, but when it comes to curse, you just can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do it, so I think of, I think of those times in a relish in those times, because, you know, as a giant's fans, we don't want to see the Dodgers win the world series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't want to see them win a, you know, playoff series even.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So when his time came up, we thought, oh, this is going to be beautiful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he takes the mound and gets the loss for them and gets blown up, we're just going to eat that up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the other one too was, wasn't there a game where Joe Panic hit two home runs off of them?

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[SPEAKER_00]: My memory.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a good question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So mine is going to be when Madbum hit a jack off of Kursha.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm trying to pinpoint what game that was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because I don't actually know if this was the game, but I went to Giants opening day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to say it was a 2017.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I remember this clearly because I was, I did the, I did the giants and Dodgers, I'm sorry, giants and warriors back to back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the giants played in the day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we shot out to see the warriors that night play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the San Antonio spurs, but I'm trying to remember because I think I want to say it was a giant stodgers and Bumgarner went deep, but it may not have been Khrusha, but I know that he's taken Khrusha deep twice in his career, which was always kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I feel like you know, the Lensacum and Khrusha matchups early when Lensacum was on, those were great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the bumgarner and Kersha matchups were the one that I feel a little bit more memorable because they're both left handed, you know, they're both kind of tall skinny, not not even skinny, just tall like built dudes like, yeah, athletic dudes and those were some battles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I always felt like I'm going to guess that Kersha got the better of bumgarner and, you know, more than bumgarner got the better of Kersha, but I always felt we couldn't hit lefties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but I always felt like they had a great chance to win those games when it was bomb gardener and I didn't feel that well when they, when it was another pitcher going up against Kursha, there was a, there was a lefty who beat Kursha when the giants needed it one year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I forget what that dude's name was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like a, you know, he's like a quadruple

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[SPEAKER_00]: Going back to the Joe Panic thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I missed remembered it, but it is it is it is actually a record break in for the Giants Joe Panic hit the solo home run off of Clayton Kirchai think it was opening day 2018 and they won one nothing and then the next day Joe Panic hit a solo home run home run off of Kindly Jansson

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they won that game one, nothing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they won back to back games, won nothing in Joe Panic, hits solo home runs, and both of those games to win it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was a fun one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember when Panic hit that home run and the look on his face was like, I just took Clayton Kershaw deep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's just 2018, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 2018 Clayton Kershaw.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So pretty big accomplishment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, no.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think if I'm correct,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe it's 2018 that this happened, but I can't figure it out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I should have thought about it before we start talking.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, just good riddance stood on us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't like seeing his face, and he can go away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But for him, he's going to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's the first pal at Hall of Famer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He'll be there in five years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I can't imagine that many people

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's just quickly look at the rest of the news about the team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we mentioned, we mentioned, Haseus Rodriguez, he is on the taxi squad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We mentioned Trevor McDonald coming up for start.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Looks like he's going to get another one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We mentioned Brett wisely getting picked up by the Braves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I guess my question for you is Justin Verlander.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... to the giant try and resign him like what does it take to resign just in verlander is he now in the driver's seat even though he put us through hell for like uh... half season or more because he's been so good in his last five starts

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a tough one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's Blake snowing us right now, isn't he?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing that I look at when I go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Except he's not a dick though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, we don't know that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've only had him for one year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, we've seen him in interviews and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't throw anybody underneath the under the blast when things aren't going his way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have a feeling Verlander would take the ball in the last start, even if it didn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He absolutely would, but the problem with him being in his forties, you kind of wonder, is he in the driver seat, or they can, any team easily point to his first half and say, well, who's to say, we don't sign you and we get first half early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you're getting older.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just getting older and older and older as time goes on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you pitch like you have the last month and a half of the season?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you pitch like that the entire next season or 75 to 80 percent of that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So no, I don't think he's in the driver's seat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's going to be probably looking for

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe one or two year deals I would not be shocked if he goes back to Houston or maybe even Detroit Detroit can use another starter we've seen them falter down the down down the stretch here so they could absolutely use another starter so he could go home to Detroit or go home to Houston.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely killing us right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got Picture of the month honors back and what was it May I think or June and he's got a seven ERA here in September Has a hard time getting out of the third or fourth inning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the giants are really good They're gonna need to stack up on starting pitching next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if they can just sign

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know four or five starting pitchers and verlanders one of them just having extra arms is kind of a good thing because we saw how it happens all the sudden you trade a guy away and then all the sudden you get two guys that are hurt now you're on triple and quadruple a pitchers and and we've seen that can't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: carry you or sustain you in the playoff hunt in July and August.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a really tough situation to be in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to go out and sign guys who are there who are on the mound, that's the key.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they can give you the innings, if they can give you five or six innings, you give them the money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'd love to see them come back just a couple of months ago we thought,

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[SPEAKER_02]: unless he gets an offer of something like 20.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have to believe the giants will be competitive in the offer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I wonder, I sneakily wonder if the Dodgers kind of make a run at him because they're kind of in the same boat

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[SPEAKER_02]: they they need people who can actually go up and throw five and if you sell him on the idea well I mean he's not gonna want to be a five and dive guy he wants to go deep into games but if you sell him with the idea of because of the way that that you run your bullpen

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can, you know, you can sort of hang out and maybe early in the season, you're not really too worried about him going deep and then you can to kind of save him to the end and you worry about, you know, we want you for the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We are going to make the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I wonder if they do kind of take a look at Verlander, which would be, you know, a hard thing for us because we don't want them to get him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But they may just have the money to be like, hey, here's 20, here's 25.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We want you for this one year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can help us get to where we need to go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're going to be in the post-season, so you will get to pitch in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it looks like Brad has lost his internet here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll see if we can get Brad back up, but if not, I can close this show down.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I just looking at the rest of the divisions here, blue jays are the only team in the American League with 90 wins.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that means that the tigers have just kind of come across hard times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The tigers themselves are only ahead of the guardians by one game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that was not the case weeks ago where it looked like they were just going to clinch this division, no problem.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Guardians are right there with the tigers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yankees are two back of the blue jays, so the blue jays haven't exactly clinched the division.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yankees are a kind of on their heels, but the blue jays have been in first place for so long here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then in the west,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you have the Mariners are three games up on the Astros, so they have they've leaped over and are now in sole control and really unless they fall off they probably win that division and but it's the Rangers for poor Bruce.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bruce Bocchi, Bruce Bocchi has lost a, lost a few games they're going into the, the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the rainers are probably not, not going to be involved in, in the playoffs there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then in the East, the Phillies, 92 and 64, they are,

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are going to either be the first or second seed in the national league.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The brewers are three games ahead of them, 95 wins, the cubs and the reds behind them, the cubs are in in the wild card, and then the Dodgers 88 and 68.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They would be great if they went like one in five to end the season and didn't even win 90.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the podger is 85 and 71.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Brats back by the way, if you heard the chuckle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I lost my interwebs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That never happens, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, you just lost it completely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now you're on the cell signal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just lost it completely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm hooked up to 5G.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I want to thank your internet because just right at the end, right in the last five minutes of the show, it calmed out, I'm going to find what that is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this is the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least it didn't do it in the first five minutes, that would have sucked.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So do you have any predictions of how this tigers and guardian situation fixes itself?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I haven't seen the schedule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not 100% sure who they're playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's check out, let me, let me go to that real quick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And again, giant fans, we wanna see Stephen Vogue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: get in, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, because that's kind of exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know there's a whole sect of Giants fans who are like, we should have gotten, you know, we should have gotten Steven vote.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, hired their on-catcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe any of that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have what we have, and I still think Bob Melvin and Buster Posey can build this roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, year one of Posey and Melvin together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I still think they can build this roster into something good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it looks like, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like the Tigers and Guardians actually play tomorrow and Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that'll be exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, let's see here, I'm not sure if you want to pull up the tigers and see what their schedule is like, but actually, yeah, they've got three tigers and tigers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So tiger tigers, guardians, guardians, Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, tigers at Red Sox to close out the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a team fighting, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: and the Cleveland Guardians go to, they stay home for actually all six of these games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've got Detroit for three, and then the Texas Rangers come in for three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, the Red Sucks still has the Red Sucks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Red Sucks still have to win because the Guardians and the Astros are only a game behind them, and there's only three spots, and there are four teams who are hanging out there for those three spots.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, and then the Guardians, yeah, the Guardians do have the Rangers at home to end the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, very interesting that that's that's a series to kind of dial up when you were talking about the MLB package that that is a series to throw on in the background to see what happened.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's super because I just I just had assumed that the tiger tigers are going to clinch early.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they fell off the table and at the same time in order for the gardens to make it up, they had to win all of those games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they did exactly exactly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the great part of this time in the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what we thought we were doing, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We thought mats are losing all these games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're going to win all these games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got that stretch for we went 13 and 3.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then after that pretty much 500 and now back under 500.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you have

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's going to be they can overtake them and they could end up, you know, two games above them by the time they finish that three games series if they sweep them two games ahead of them with three games left to play that's driver seat right there and yeah because all of that momentum for the Guardians, I mean that would be amazing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll come back next week to wrap up the regular season and with the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I, even if we don't do full long shows like this, I would still like to record during the playoffs and world series just because I think it's a, it's a very active time to talk baseball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But in the post season in the off season, after the post season in the off season, you know, we may, we may go every other week or figure out what the regular routine is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Unless there's news, then we'll, you know, we may go when there's news.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we'll figure out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: how to do this show like previously before last year we were trying to still go every week even though there wasn't a lot to talk about but I think we're going to

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[SPEAKER_02]: pick and pick and choose a little bit more because we have some other shows to pick up the slack so that we don't have to go every week if there's nothing going on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But so that'll kind of be the rhythm for the rest of the season, even if we don't do long shows, we'll still try and do something for the post season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It'll make sure that we I keep an eye on the post season because sometimes when the giants are done, I just completely turn my brain off of baseball and I go to

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, so it was, you know, even if the giants are out, we'll still be back throughout the playoffs and we'll still talk about the giants obviously because, you know, one of the things about watching the playoffs is when.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the Dodgers and the podgers are in the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You always want to be able to measure yourself and watch those teams play and you go, okay, how do these guys handle the postseason?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What are they doing?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where are they?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where are their discrepancies?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And similar, which is why I want the Diamondbacks to get there if the giants can't get there because I want to see the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How do the Diamondbacks approach the stuff?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So anyways, we'll be around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I would like to do next Monday is I think it could be kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You and I put together our playoff team power rankings and combine American and League and nationally, you can just kind of throw together some power rankings, yours mind, and we kind of see where we think the teams are and who might be the favorites throughout the playoffs, I think that may kind of a fun thing to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just, you know, because heading into place, I mentioned the Will Smith injury, not like, you know, the Dodgers have the people to fill in spots because of depth, but still he's an all-star catcher man like you lose your all-star catcher before the playoffs even start.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Philly loses their ace, you know, a month ago or whatever, heading into the playoffs and I still think that they're the best team in the national league, but that's only because we haven't seen the brewers do it for like for real for real and that's kind of also what I want to see is if the brewers can do it for real because if the brewers can do it for real.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's another blueprint that kind of tells Buster you can still do it this way and I just like leaning into that way playing baseball anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's why that's from kind of rooting for the viewers, but it's speed and athleticism.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's Milwaukee speed athleticism and pitching and that's what Buster wants to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, let's let's let's through from the walkie to make some noise and then yeah kind of pushes Buster a little bit like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll be back next week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks for hanging out with us and for the rest of this week, Brian and I will be back Wednesday on YouTube live streaming talking the end of the Valkyrie season and the WMBA playoffs and

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[SPEAKER_02]: kind of figuring out when this Jonathan coming at situation is going to be done, and then Rod and I will be back Sunday evening, Monday morning after Niners Jaguars.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not live streaming on Sunday night because I've something to do, but we will be live streaming after something near and dear to Brad's heart, which is Niners Rammy's on Thursday night football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that'll be the next time we live stream for we won't

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[SPEAKER_02]: Talking baseball next Monday, we will see you when we see you peace out.