Sept. 14, 2025

49ers Win in New Orleans! Mac Jones, Jauan Jennings, Closers & Secondary Woes | We Want Winners

49ers Win in New Orleans! Mac Jones, Jauan Jennings, Closers & Secondary Woes | We Want Winners

The San Francisco 49ers secured a hard-fought win over the Saints, but it wasn't perfect. Rod and GG dive into Mac Jones' solid performance and Jauan Jennings' clutch touchdown, while also raising a red flag about the struggling secondary. They give flowers to the star players on defense as well as the closers. Plus, the team previews the Week 3 matchup against the Arizona Cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What's up everybody, double g and rod here to talk about the 49ers going into New Orleans?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sounded like there was a lot of foreign interference there by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they won in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we can just say that they won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were moments where I thought the team played very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were other moments where I was like, if this wasn't New Orleans, we're getting boat raced in this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you play the team that is on the field in front of you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe we think the schedule for this one, neither are also playing with a bunch of backups here, but otherwise they come away with a 26 to 21 win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess we'll start Rod, start with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't even talked about this game yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What were your thoughts overall on the way that they played?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was happy that it was the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So could you know, granite?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the caveat is Matt played well, um, just still operating at a deficit, and then, you know, Bart isn't great shakes, and then he's out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now you've got, um, Kobe in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so it was, it kind of just set up, like, like a trap game, but, you know, they were able to

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[SPEAKER_01]: to get the win, which is, you know, all you can do get.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it did not feel great that, you know, the top, the team is going to be a top three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's, I don't think there's any question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be one of the top three teams in the draft is here, um, if they're driving to win the game, um, you know, in the fourth quarter, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they're able to come up with some big plays and they're the Saints.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, if you feel good with all the negative that happened this week, you know, basically on the injury front, you feel, you feel glad you were able to go on the road and get a win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, when you look back like, you know, obviously, week two, I think we expect the Niners to maybe be a little bit better than 500.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless these injuries just pile up and you can't stop them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I would say gosh, injury look has got to be on our side, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you are on the older side, there's there's probably going to be a little bit more worry about injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's probably going to be something that they just deal with all season long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You start the season with two games on the turf, which is not fantastic for things like this, especially for an old team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure they are so ecstatic to get back home next weekend against

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got these in the book to close wins, you know, two games where maybe you didn't have your fastball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you had to throw some changeups in the dirt and get any other team to swing and miss it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some pitches, but you still come out of it to a no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now what's funny?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's so many 49er naysayers this year nationally, because they know the same things that we just said, which is old team relying on the vets to make one last go at it easy schedule, but the injuries are gonna pile up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And every national analyst who predicted Doom for the 49ers is going to say, what we just said, they're lucky that they played the Saints in week two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the way that they won this game I think is important and a shanahan even said it in the press conference he said something to the effect of

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, it wasn't great shakes, but we came away with a win, which was impressive and most important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's the way you have to look at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll take a look at some of the things that happened and positively and negatively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think there's, I think if you were down on the 49ers after last week, nothing changes this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even know if we'll see who the team is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, is it going to be week five, week six, week seven?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are you comes back?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you really give fair analysis on who this team is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the time, are you comes back?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Someone else is going to be injured.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of how I think this whole season is going to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which means we're just going to have a lot to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we may lean on the injury stuff a little bit too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you have an old team, that's kind of what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mac Daddy Jones, you know, he reminded me of today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The work we're going way back to 1991.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mac Jones was Steve Bono to me today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there were moments where I was like, oh, he's Steve Bono thinking that he's actually Steve Young, you know, but he, I think he played with it himself very well, like he, he had a couple of shots, a couple of daring passes, but everything else was just like, I'm taking what the defense is giving us, and because the Saints are not good, the defense was giving you a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were guys open, and when you have Christian McCaffrey coming out of the backfield, I'm sure that's a lot better than his experience in New England coming out of the backfields, kind of like the cheat code that we've been talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They also did some interesting things with the tight ends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Without kiddo, they ran some kind of like little screen action stuff with the tight ends to get them open.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the first touchdown of the game to Luke Ferrell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Shanna Han was kind of in his bag creatively with some of that stuff today and he you could tell he trusted Mac to make the right decisions because Mac almost through 40 times today, Christian McCaffrey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was 12 for 55.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything, you know, Brent, Brent Robbs and had a couple of runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everything else was in the passing game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I wonder how much the loss of Jews who had a concussion, I wonder how much that played into them, not running as much as as they threw.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess we got to talk about Mac because he played perfectly within himself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The one time where I thought he was probably trying to do a little bit too much was on that fumble, but you can't really blame him like that was just, I think that was McKinvits just getting blown off the line and then fumbling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But my whole thought was like, okay, it's 16, 7, as long as Mac doesn't turn the ball over, we're winning this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then immediately the fumble happens.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what did you think of Mac today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought he managed the game well, and again, that has kind of become a matured of term, but I don't think it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he did exactly what you said.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He played well within himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He took what the offense gave him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't go out there trying to

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still, it was, I can't help, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: what you said it just ringing in my ear and it's so perfectly sums up how I feel as we want.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just no way that we're going to know what this team is like today, the offense, McLean fine and the offense, you know, 209 passing our three touchdowns, that looks great on paper,

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[SPEAKER_01]: how good are the saints?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, it's like with the defense the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was, you know, I had somebody tell me it's defense is fine after last week's game and like, okay, I mean, if you say so, I mean, it's are the do the, is this defense just really good and it helps the out of the 17 points or the Seattle stink.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there and there that is

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[SPEAKER_01]: and made a big play to close out the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Spiss Rally had three touchdown passes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the spent the Rallyers numbers are almost better than Mac Jones's numbers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And right, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but I mean, so, so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What does that tell us about this?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's this defense good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still, again, like you said, I still don't know two games in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I've watched every second of this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The last game twice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll probably watch this one again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I still don't have a real good handle on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What this team really does good?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What it does bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, so if you want to tell me and if you are a naysayer like you would say it before, I can't argue with you, but I mean, if you are, you know, a cock-eyed optimist and, you know, talking about see I told you they're going to go 12 and four.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I guess I don't think that's realistic, but again, I can't argue with you at this point because I just don't know honestly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's going to be the story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even when you get Brandon I you back, and even when Brock Pertis toe fixes itself or whatever, what this when does do though is if you want to keep Brock out for precaution, you don't you never want to lose a division game, but depending on what the other teams do today, you

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe you do, maybe you are a little risk of her in and bring in Brock back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, hopefully on grass, his toe is going to be a little better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, it's funny is Kyle Shanahan will still not call it turf toe for whatever reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, what else is it somebody step on his toe that he dislocated toe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's one of those things I was talking to some, I was talking to actually to my doctor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: randomly about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not, you know, it what it does with the quarterback is it makes pushing off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, difficult and it's not a for a football player apparently or somebody who with heavy uses, it's not something that's like, it's like heels and it's fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, even once he comes back, this is something that he will most likely be dealing with for the rest of the season because it's just that apparently according to the doctor, that's just not how terrible works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like, you know, you set out for two weeks and then it's all better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like, it's going to be a pain management thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right, exactly 100% in that, that's what it is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, that's, you know, as, you know, doctors always going to give you caveats is that he ain't is having examinum and, you know, they are very in grades of turf toe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, air farm states been three seasons basically dealing with turf toe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's, you know, so it's, but we, you don't know that it's that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's also highly optimistic to think that if he sits out two weeks or three weeks, that he's going to come back and he'll be just like he was at the star of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's just what I said, which foot it's on, I haven't seen anything about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are being really, really close.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I just thought it was interesting even as much as as little as he likes to give up that when he first reported it last week that he

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, said that the turf was more concerning than the shoulder, that you know, that was like more information that kind of usually volunteers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, so no, I don't even know what, but it's on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't know, I don't know anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: how do you get turf toe?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it because someone fell in his foot?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he plant wrong?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I literally don't know what it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do not either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And because so the reason why I ask is like basketball players, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like basketball players play on a hard surface.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't ever hear a basketball player getting something like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, okay, so I just looked at us as it's a spring of the big toe basically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: when it's forcibly bent or hyper extended right so it gets bent backwards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but, you know, if you think of the arch of the foot anytime you're on your tippy toes, your arch is kind of bending your toes back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it has to it's being bent over more than naturally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, why do basketball players not deal with this?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're on their toes constantly all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So interesting, maybe somebody with some knowledge will hit us up and let us know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so Mac, you know, I don't think he could have played really any better outside of the fumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had a rough first series of plays, but otherwise, I thought he was really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If Joanne Jennings bales

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, on the drive right before they had to punt one more time, they probably ice the game right there and then you don't need the the great sack by Bryce Huff, we we'll talk about some players that didn't even really show up on our radar's last week because there's some guys who made some big plays this week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just speaking of Joanne Jennings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he, he had the backbreaker for New Orleans, really, which was that long touchdown catch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now there were other catches or other opportunities for him to make some big third down catches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One of them, ball kind of was up in the air and as he's falling down, you know, he was trying to outstretch like that was great effort.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, unfortunately, you know, not, not didn't come down with it, but the third down catch on the next series was the one that I think we needed that he, he didn't get to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but he did make the big play so if you want to give him demerits for not coming down with those you also have to give him his flowers for making the biggest play of the game for the offense i thought but he it was kind of game day decision for him on whether or not he was going to play

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think we're very happy that he played because he was the biggest target as far as getting the ball down the field for Mac.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he had four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had five Ricky had four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Christian had four catches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So spread around a little bit, but he was the guy that they needed as the game the game breaker and the playmaker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you think about Joanne today?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was

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[SPEAKER_01]: he looked good and it was interesting like you say it seemed like it was a game time decision I know I did not check yesterday, but as a Friday it did not seem that the reporting I saw seemed that it was likely then he would play, but it was by far not guaranteed that he would play

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because you, you, you haven't happened all the time, we're guys play and they're just kind of out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't know even if they play, okay, if it's Friday and we don't, we don't know if he's going to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, if he plays, how good will he be, but he looked good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was, I could say the most productive.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, of the receivers, um, it was he out target and everybody by.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, not by guess not by a lot, he got Christian by three, but yes, he was by far the most targeted, I just said by for he wasn't by far, but he was the most targeted receiver and I could say he delivered the bag breaker so yeah, it was it was a very good performance him, I guess that was his career long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on a recession.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, it was a, you know, it was pretty easy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he was, he was wide open.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think the read on that was so interesting because they were showing it on the replay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Ricky was running across, you see the Ricky or Kendrick was doing, was run like running a slant underneath.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you also had McAfrey running underneath.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those were the open receivers when, uh, when Mac through it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He read, I think there was a linebacker right in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He read that the linebackers eyes were looking towards the receivers underneath because when he threw it, the linebacker had not yet reacted to the play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as he throws the ball, you see the linebacker take a step forward and then it's over his head for Joanne.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was a great read by Mac.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the only thing, you know, I was trying to think of okay, what's the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock's computer brain probably goes just a tick faster than Mack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like Brock gets through his reads a little quicker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it did seem like and some of this was the the past blocking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were moments where the past blocking was terrible, but then there were moments where it was actually good and it enabled Mack to kind of step up and read.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mac may hang on to certain things a little bit longer than Brock there's a positive and a negative to that because there were moments where Mac waited and waited and and hit receiver where I was like I think Brock's running at this point and some of it might be just Brock gets through his reads so quick that he has to he believes he has to make his decision a little bit sooner and Mac was able to Maybe sit for an extra half second before he made a decision but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Other than that, like, and obviously Brock runs a little bit more, you know, he was definitely a poor man's version of Brock today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, yeah, he was he did did his job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and it's I find it interesting because, you know, obviously anybody who was around in 21, I'm still quite invested in that draft class and it's interesting to see how.

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[SPEAKER_01]: all of those guys in varying levels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess feels didn't have a great game today and then trade in Zack are both back up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But where is that all of them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: he's in my end.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, but, but they all showed varying levels of, um, growth and progress this offseason, which I mean, this is four years in.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, so it's, I don't, I think that the anomaly is like, um, Jane Daniels.

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[SPEAKER_01]: or as we're seeing develop this season, Cam Ward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think those guys are the outliers, guys coming in and are able to play right away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you see the varying levels of

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[SPEAKER_01]: development in Max game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tray looked really good under Harbog.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Zach looked pretty good in Miami.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, again, preseason you have to have to carry all that with a grand salt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you, but then you look at guys like Baker and Geno and Sam Darno to a lesser extent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a pretty good game today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The growth and development aren't linear and, you know, to expect, again, I will go to my grace and that if the 49ers weren't committed to developing trail ants, then it was a of that more than anything made it a horrible pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had to even throw 500 passes between high school and college.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you thought,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was going to be plugging in play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then that was, you know, that was your bad, you know, you should have gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you have what you were looking for was somebody who was you're going to be able to insert, like you ended up doing brought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Matt Jones probably would have been the better choice because he had played more college football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not and not by that much, but he had played way more and it thrown it more than trayhead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just I just don't I think you have to if you want plug and play tight players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You need to be looking at guys like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: bonus guys who played a lot of college football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, it's, it's, you know, Jane Daniels is one piece three schools, um, you know, five years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it's, you get these guys, they come in and you're, oh, it's, it's not like they were,

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[SPEAKER_01]: One in Dunes, you really don't see that at the court of acquisition guys who play one year and even in the examples of somebody who you might say that about Cam Newton, it wasn't that simple because he did have the one year at Auburn, but he got kicked out of Florida, he played junior college, so what's your so he had one good college season, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: there was a role that he had traveled to get there and plus fucking fucking Cam Newton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's different, so yeah, it's, I say that to say on both fronts, um, Mac look good, but Mac has a lot of it, he's played a lot of football, um, so it's not like it's a, a, a super shot that he's able to come in

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he played like a vet today and it was I don't think that you know, I don't know how far you're going to go if Matt Jones is your quarterback, but I don't think he's going to be the reason that you lose, especially in this system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is so quarterback friendly that if he just does what Kyle, you know, lays it out for him to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He won't be the way and we've seen it Jimmy Jimmy he went to a Super Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean it's this system is quarterback friendly and you know, he's not going to be the reason that we don't win games as long as he doesn't turn it all over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's talk about the defense the secondary I thought had a

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[SPEAKER_00]: pretty rough game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some good plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I did think that, you know, last week it was up to start getting picked on earlier in the game today was Ronaldo Green.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Up then stout had a nice sack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but I think he should get a locker room fine for getting a juke by Rattler on that fourth down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that fourth down run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, oh man, not that great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they also, there was a moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to get your thoughts on this because I know you like the, you like to look at the exes and knows of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there was a moment, they're first touched down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's, uh, it's third down and the Niners blitz because I was really looking at the line of scrimmage because like, okay, to Sala think that they can just put the hammer on Rattler force them into a field goal and then they kind of take them momentum.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and instead they bring five and whoever was on the far left kind of gave up on the past where she'll really only bring in four, Fred Warner comes in, they kind of snuff it and then he throws a little jump ball for Joanne Johnson against I think it was against Seagull and you know there's a giant size difference and and so that was the first play and I was thinking like I'm trying to figure out

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[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit of how much Sala believes in the secondary and when he's going to pick and choose to blitz and and time different things because leaving Seagull on an island against their tight end was not great for Seagull because the tight end is just a giant and I don't even know who you would

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, would you cover him with two guys, whatever have helped, but that was a play where I circled them and was like, okay, I think he was trying to get to Rattler to force him into a mistake, but they were able to snuff out the blitz and so it was an easy throw for Rattler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you have you made any?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Decisions on the defense based on how Sala seems to blitz and not blitz and when he wants to bring pressure and when he's really comfortable with what they got like have you been able to make any conclusions on on how he what he thinks about his defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, no, I know I have an ache because today was better, but like last week,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the pressure was pretty much non-existent last week and it looks from the, um, just what I've seen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what has been made available in terms of stats, it was a little better this week, but still not great, you know, height, according to these preliminary numbers, I've had a pretty good game in terms of pressures.

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[SPEAKER_01]: PFF, and it was, in last week, it was basically boasted and that was it nobody else really contributed anything but you got my kill got.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a couple of pressures.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, both have got credit for the sack, but he and Willie Williams actually pushed the guard almost interrattler and both so was able to kind of come around a little bit and then get to Rattler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was kind of a team effort.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was definitely Williams's, you know, basically, sitting the guy in Rattler's lap.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, the collab, you know, he was the one who really collapsed the pocket and made it so that, you know, it was, it was, you know, like you say, both got credit for the sack, but that his pressure was equally as important,

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[SPEAKER_00]: having closers and he said both so was a closer but he said you know it's you don't want to call everybody a closer but then today after today he called how for closer because huff made the biggest play for them causing that fumble.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was just a speed rush, like he was just lightning off of the off of the ball snap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like the tackle was just a step slow and Huff went right around him, forced the fumble and that was that was the big play for the defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fred Warner also

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's price-huff, and when he can do that, that is what he does well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You want to put him in those situations.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to ask him to do anything else, but if you can have him do that, he can be, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: My guy said Ely Olson said Ely, and I think in that particular instance, he is at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it was, it was, he was deployed expertly there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and that's what we were talking about in the preseason about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you, if you push my kill into the inside and then you have Bosa and Huff coming on the outside, theoretically you have three guys who you trust to rush the passer and so that that forces the offensive line to to kind of, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: have to pick up more than normal, especially on specific passing is when you know the other tunes going to pass, then that's what you can implement and it was really good to see him because I would have one of the things that obviously off of after last season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you don't want to see him have a slow start because then the questions come out and then the media starts asking about you know what's pricehuff going to do is he was he always did pick up and but to see him do that in game two when they needed it in the in the crunch time I'm just going to be great for him because now like you said this is the thing that he does best now he has shown the 49ers you can trust me in these moments to actually do what what I do rather than

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if you watch the tape of last year, you know, maybe he's lost a step or whatever, but no, he's like, no, see, here it is, here's what I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was, that was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But another one that the playmaker Fred Warner to be able to snatch that, uh, fumble, uh, uh, I wasn't right off the ground.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like a basketball player playing football sometimes where you just watch the athleticism and you go like this dude could have been like a good athlete in so many other sports because he's so talented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought he played pretty he had one miss on Camaro when he had he figured out the play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knew they were going to hand up to Camaro.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He jumped the he jumped the gap on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd like literally had to wait for Camara to actually get the ball, which I think was the reason why he missed a tackle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But other than that, he was amazing out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: D-winters had a couple of Drake Greenlaw impersonations there, including pushing rather out of balance for the 15-yard penalty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But D-winters again,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You, you see him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see him around the football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see him, uh, making plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, there was one play where he was about to make another play and grows motto's kind of pushes out of the way because he's trying to make that play too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, uh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to have, you got your play maker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got Bosa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got Bryce off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to see a little bit of my Kel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got some

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[SPEAKER_00]: like and winters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you see the opportunities, but it's almost like those five guys or six guys have to pick up everybody else because I don't think we've seen a standout in the secondary quite yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that is kind of my worry, there's a there was a little bit of bend but don't break to them today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They gave up a 122 yards rushing Camaro's great player of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, there's no harm and he didn't quite have a hundred, but he almost had a hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of it was was Rattler so you don't want to give up over a hundred yards, but I sort of feel like they did it in a bend but don't break kind of way because they knew.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that it was going to take a lot of time for New Orleans to actually score.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they they seem to be pretty comfortable with having the lead and playing with the lead and maybe not needing to do a ton on defense and just letting New Orleans kind of play their game and they knew they were going to outlast them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if you're looking at again, these aren't finalized, I love that they do this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing this PFF is doing this, you know, they're giving you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right after the game numbers, but you have to use them sparingly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Winners had a decent game, but he missed three tackles that was that kind of really is gonna sap his grade if that holds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then when you look at the secondary, you were right on in your assessment or your questioning of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: None of these guys who played,

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[SPEAKER_01]: graded out at 66, which is above average, but he only played six snaps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody who played more than 10 snaps, none of them were graded out over 60.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just it based struggle, all of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And look, looks, I thought Ratler played well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I was actually surprised at how well he was playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because, you know, he's own seven as starter now, only eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there were things where I was like, oh, I could see why teams continue to think that, you know, they can build him up, because he did some things very well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're probably given up 300 plus yards passing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're getting picked on like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you know, New Orleans doesn't have those weapons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a lot of drops early on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was kind of my overall thought was, we were just lucky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't play one of the top teams this week because I think they would have gotten carved up pretty badly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're sort of relying on Mac to see

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[SPEAKER_00]: himself throw for 300 yards and maybe that maybe if the Niners needed to do that they could have done that and they could have played a game like that, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, this is all about, you know, just being thankful that they had the Saints in week two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that we are, I feel much more comfortable with Mac.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we are in a position where he is able to, I don't want Mac in a shootout.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he played well, but I just don't know that that is where we're going to be optimized is if we're, you know, asking, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: for asking Matt to drop back 40 times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that that is, you know, although we, we had to, you know, we had to throw it quite a bit today or they chose to throw it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, quite a quite a bit today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 39, 39 times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but it just, and that I was, I just said, you don't want

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[SPEAKER_01]: a game script where, you know, because a lot of that was short stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, because a lot of, you know, a lot of them, a lot of those targets were to Christian.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but you know, he targeted, do one down down the field too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I don't, again, maybe like you say, maybe, maybe, maybe Mac is, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mac is it is down for the shootout, but again, it felt a lot more controlled than, you know, it wasn't, it wasn't, it didn't feel like to me by Cowboys giants or, it didn't feel like or Cincinnati Jacksonville, you know, even if the numbers,

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of look to say the game didn't feel like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't feel like a shoot out to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, yeah, of course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, there were moments late where you kind of wondered if

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Niners were finally going to break and they didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's when they came up with the biggest place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you've had to give them kudos in those moments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the last thing we'll talk about before we talk a little bit about next week and by the way, as of this recording, unfortunately for people who listen to the podcast version, this game's probably going to be close to over, over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The cardinals are up 13 to three over Carolina with about two minutes to go in the first half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's quite possible that next week's game, at Levi's will be the two-and-one diners in the two-and-one cardinals, which makes it important, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: As important as an early season game can be, there was a stat on the television broadcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where they said

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[SPEAKER_00]: got something about the Niners have started the season 2 and 0 like 7 times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know the range of years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if this is ever, it feels like those 80s teams sort of started to know more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they said in the previous six times that the Niners have started out 2 and 0, four of those times they went to the Super Bowl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that is not just I'm not saying that to say that the Niners are headed to Super Bowl in any way shape or form.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but it just shows you how rare it's been and you think of all of the really good niner's teams and you know by sometimes by week two there with their one-and-one or their own two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So to see them two-and-oh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: heading into a Western or an NFC West matchup against a possible two and oh, Cardinals, that's kind of a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And to do it, the way that they've done it, which is a little bit on the road, smoking mirrors, whatever you want to call it, I'm sure Shanahan will probably say that you know, they they out tough the other teams, you know, in their own place and in some parts of that game, and I would agree with that, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, that's probably more of a harbaut thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like harbaut would have probably pointed out more Jen hand, but that's kind of what I think about when I think about winning these these games like like they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we've got to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They could have lost this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They easily, they could have lost both games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you know, so the fact that, you know, both teams are driving.

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[SPEAKER_01]: to win the game at home and the defense stepped up and stopped it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So whatever you wherever you fall on the spectrum of what this team is, I think you have to give them credit for that at the very least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New kicker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... after we recorded uh... after shanahan told him calacami that he did not think one time that he was going to cut jake moody after that terrible performance in ciadle uh... like the next day or two they cut jake moody i thought they were just going to bring back great joseph but that's not what happened they brought in eddie piniero i like to call him latino heat

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[SPEAKER_00]: because of the way he spells this first name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've only seen Mexican spell it E. D. D. Y. When their name is Eddie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm I'm doing a lot of assuming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to have to do my Eddie Peniero research.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's also got the little little little till day over the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just going to assume that there are some Hispanic roots there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Latino heat, Eddie Peniero, he moody's the first extra point of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was insane.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's never missed the actual point inside indoors was you know what they they mentioned on the broadcast and it's like is there is are we just snake bear is that with this is because he's he's been you know They you know they've been touting how he's like the fourth most accurate kicker by percentage Yeah in lead history and then he had never missed an extra point indoors and then first shot

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[SPEAKER_01]: his like bang.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this the ghost or ghost?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this a ghost and Jake Moody or what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, this is this is unreal, but then he got it back together and he kicked the field goals like right down the middle, like no problem.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's funny because he as you know, I'm sure you got

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[SPEAKER_00]: How we got rid of Jake moody like there was just Jake moody jokes going all the way around and I Yeah, my reply was my reply was At least I don't have to see the depressed look on the face on the sidelines of Jake moody And that's really the thing that bothers me the most is just to see him like sad rather than pissed and uh and you know, I think I think Piniero will be

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, I'm not saying he's going to, you know, win them field goals like who's Dallas a kicker, Aubrey.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that was insane.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 64-year-old go to tie the game against the giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But hey, even though I,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, I know who Eddie Piniero is obviously I play fantasy football, but even though I don't know a lot about him, I couldn't tell you what the history of his thing was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw the same status you, fourth most accurate kicker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to guess he doesn't have the biggest leg.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was still so much more calm watching him kick the football than I have been watching Jake Moody over the last three years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's, and you know, I,

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[SPEAKER_01]: have been as critical as any 49er fan, but I strive to keep it to football.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And also, I'm not actively rooting on this kid to fail.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I want Jake.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want him to be successful here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, I kind of have

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[SPEAKER_01]: outline that on this show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I root for these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want Jake Moody to be successful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, it would be great if he gets to Chicago and figures that I guess, you know, in the reading of the reporting this week, I have no idea that Cairo Santos was like on the hot

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[SPEAKER_01]: his replacement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that replacement is Jake Moody, but I hope that for his sake that it is, I would love to see him figure it out and it's kind of cringe-worthy to me because it is so clearly something it's mental because it's he's physically as talented as anybody in the league and it is always just kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't feel good when I see people who can't who's performance issues are mental because it's like for me, I have no problem saying it's like, I hope this year does not catch him because I don't want it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to be affected by it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just, you know, I feel for people in that circumstance, you know, you see it more in individual sports where

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[SPEAKER_01]: golfers or tennis players or, you know, boxers get, you know, you have them, they get in the circumstances where they can't get out their own way over the last several years.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know who watch this call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tommy Fleetwood has been a guy who has been his talented as anybody, but it seems like anytime he gets close to winning, he does something to step on himself too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, come from from my head to lose it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, I just always have had a soft spot for people like that and who in that circumstance in room for them to overcome like time complete with one of FedEx cup this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, if I thought it was it was a wonderful story that he is finally after all of these near misses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, to see that, you know, his talent fulfilled is, it was, you know, it was something that I wrote for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, you know, I don't, I don't, a lot of 40, 500 fans don't share that with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like they don't, once those, you know, people leave here, they're inside good, written, so they don't think about them, they don't care.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have a roof for that kid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, I have his face drives me nuts, but I don't want to see him have a bad career and have something like this kind of shape his life, you know, and yeah, like, think of Scott, think of Scott Norwood, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is Scott Norwood's life was affected?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, this thing that's illegal, like nobody wants to wish that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, so it's, I just, you know, and I knew that, you know, he had to waste town for, you know, for his, like, career to just be over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They like he would never, and you just see it all the time with kickers, like, you know, Eddie Panero is the fourth, you know, fourth, um, and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: my field by percentage and history and he never dropped out on the job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He needed a job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it is the vagaries of that specific job.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me to know that his career is like far from over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He'll get, you know, he'll be in camps and get lots of shots to um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: to share his face with man, yes, all over the moody face, the moody face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess he's in Chicago on their practice squad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And my buddy, a shout out to Ryan Drossie, who does kind of what we do, but he does it for the Chicago Bears.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was saying that he thinks that

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a little bit of like a kick in the butt to their kicker chiral Santos and so he doesn't he doesn't think moody is there to replace him in any way, but just kind of like, you know, maybe a little push a little pressure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess coming out of this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know Ben Bartch, you had mentioned he was out Kyle, you check.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Also, he had a concussion very early in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he was out very early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see any I guess the the special team or Neil he had gotten hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe on the first play of the game was something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if he came back or if he was out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see that he was out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless some other things show up on the injury report tomorrow, which can't happen, because we didn't know about Brock's foot until after the game, like he didn't miss a snap, he didn't miss a play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So crossing my fingers that everything else is clean, that injury list is clean, but those are the ones that we know about, so we'll have to sort of wait and see for later tonight or maybe tomorrow with Shanahan has his press conference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But looking ahead, to next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Arizona Cardinals, which means because the home game will have to do our show probably later and I don't even know we'll be able to go live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm only going to be able to go live like this on the road games for the first couple months just because of my schedule, but we'll still record, we'll still put stuff up, we'll still do our normal show and I'll work with Rod because I don't want my schedule to mess up Rod schedule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll work together on that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But so next week

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[SPEAKER_00]: Levi's will be rocking and I think they'll be happy to play on their own surface.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They'll be happy to be playing at home, but nationally, Arizona's a little bit of the underdog Dandy in the NFC West.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been hearing a lot about don't sleep on the cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You have talked about them as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Kyler can be a problem for the Niners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does things that are that we would see Russell Wilson do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, Russell Wilson late in that game, before he hits the gorgeous deep past to Malik neighbors, who's like double covered and still like they're covering his eyes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he still makes the great catch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So on the play right before that, Russell Wilson steps up in the pocket and he starts running.

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[SPEAKER_00]: is like something wrong, like why is he so slow?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I just realized, this dude is old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he was killing us 15 years ago, or 10, 10, whatever years ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now he's a little bit older and slower and not the same dude, but he still throws that beautiful long ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, Kyler is that type of player

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, he, he has a couple more weapons now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You talked about it and we were talking about it last week, the tight end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got a young receiver, so, you know, James Conner, you know, the Mr. dependable, this is going to be a tough test.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if the Niners kind of run it back with this same squad, you know, with the injuries that they do have,

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[SPEAKER_00]: This would be a tough game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's going to be not that I think the nine of us will be favored, but this would be I think one of those games that you kind of circle and go, okay, how good are they actually?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if a lot of what we saw in these first two games is a little bit of a

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[SPEAKER_00]: they're still a little bit of a paper tiger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we'll see it in the game against Arizona because they're going to want to come in here and kick our butts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They see everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They see this as an opportunity to take advantage of the injuries and they're going to come in and go for the throat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so can the Niners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hold, you know, can they hold court, can they, can they still play the way that they would normally play against the Cardinals without a lot of their weapons, you know, this is this is one that if I was kind of looking at it and going like, you know, where's the game, where's the sneaky game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is the sneaky game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I 100% agree and you know, it's always that way in, you know, inner, inner conference or inner division games, you know, they hear all the talk and you know, I would imagine they want to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the NFC West, which appears to be wide open, you know, the rams are a staffered in three away from being vulnerable and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: before the Niners and Seattle both seem to be trying to find their way, you know, Niners now are, you know, well, they came into, let's not say now, they really came into the season, I'm asking it and nothing, it is actually, you know, what I thought was crazy, I didn't think was even possible that it could get worse.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, worse than it was, you know, throughout the offseason, but it has, um, and it got worse today because, you know, barge that's going to be, that's going to be a big loss for, you know, I don't know for how long and then juice, obviously, um, you know, percussion protocol, be, I was just talking to my brother as we were sitting and watching Rids on, um, they were watching Rids on, I was watching the tires on my phone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that, you know, concussion protocol is such a the vagaries of that is are so weird that you just don't know, you can miss a week, you can miss two weeks, you know, you just don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we hope we get juice back quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a smart guy, so he can, he can probably work the system.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You are feeling, but yeah, it just, it doesn't seem to be getting better and obviously Mac playing well kind of a, you know, it makes you feel better, but you know, Brock is our guy and that for me, that was always the worst case scenario, you know, him and Trent, well, and then obviously CMC just because of the, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: how the gravity he has in the offense are players you don't want to you can't afford to lose Trent because he's really don't have anybody behind him and then Brock because he's the point guard and so

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[SPEAKER_01]: those were just when I thought about, you know, probably put George in there, but he is injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we can't lose these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, you know, hopefully Brock is back soon, but even, you know, not, you know, Max performance, notwithstanding, we need Brock in there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That this, for us, for this team to be what we hope for it to be, and

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to go ultimately as far as Brock is able to carry us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe I don't think that we're going to be, we can maximize who we are if Brock misses a bunch of games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully you can get back sooner rather than later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was watching, so just to kind of let people know for folks watching on the

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was had had the Niners on the big TV and I had my had the Valkyries on my on my computer or playoff started today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is where I started today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Valkyries were in Minnesota and Brian and I were talking about this yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We did our playoff preview pod.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's frustrating that the WNBA decides to run their first series to start on Sunday against the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would have forcefully changed my schedule to end a day before so you could start on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they didn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this is two years in row now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Historically, I don't know how the playoffs have done if they've done this before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the two years in a row, I think they've run head to head with week one of the playoffs or series one of the playoffs against the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had

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[SPEAKER_00]: Both things going on and, you know, I'd watch a little bit of the nine-year game, go to commercial press pause, come back, catch up on the Valks game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just going back and forth and back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thankfully, because football, there's like, you know, 30 seconds in between plays on football, you catch up really fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, but the the Valkyries got they got waxed and you know, not not unexpectedly like Minnesota's a historical regular season team, but they come back on Wednesday in San Jose 15 minutes from my house and the Valkries, I'm going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm pretty confident to say that, I think they'll play a lot better, but Minnesota's like an all-time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're on their own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have so many crazy weapons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It kind of looked like, it looked like how the 2016 warriors would just kind of start boat racing by like the third quarter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like you don't even have to play anybody in the fourth quarter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's what that game resembled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was the first round of the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it vouchers will play better on on Wednesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be live on YouTube around 615 Pacific with our Valkyries recap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm double dip in today, 49ers today, and then Valkyries also later in the feed, we'll just have two shows in the podcast feed on on on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully you don't miss either one of them if you do want to check it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: For tomorrow, so from Monday, Brad and I will be back on Thompson the Clark Giants and Dodgers are in the third game of their series this weekend, the Giants

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[SPEAKER_00]: were technically tied for the last spot in the wild card for one day before they asked the bed last night and they're currently asking the bed again today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Brad, I would back at least it's fun to talk about some competitive baseball for a change, which the giants have been competitive for the last couple of weeks, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Brian and I will also be back Wednesday night, which we'll talk about all of this on the Valkyrie show as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to cover game to live recap of of game two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So lots of stuff going on in this discord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've I've mentioned this in the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We are in the very early stages of our new discord with the Golden State hoop branding just because we're trying to really create a space for WMBA conversation and MBA conversation, but we also have conversations going on about all the sports that we cover including the 49ers my guy King of West Lake was in there in the discord with me chatting about the game today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, if you are interested, shoot me an email, GG at BSPNmedia.com, it's going to kind of be a slow rollout.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm still getting stuff and try to figure out what I want to do with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think if we can draw some of the Valkyrie's fans and so the WMBA fans, I think it'll be a fun place to chat about stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, all right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Rod now, we'll be back next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: probably not going live but we'll sort of figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But we'll have our stuff next week after the Cardinals game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for Rod, I am WG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will see you when we see you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace out.