49ers vs Cardinals: A Last-Second Thriller! Pearsall Shines & Eddy Pineiro is the Anti-Moody | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rod for three quarters I watched maybe the worst football game that I've seen in recent memory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Both teams just turn it and just, you know, run in four or five plays, punning, running four or five plays, punning, and missing field goals, and the four passes, dropping passes, 40 hours offensive line, just looking like they're on skates for a lot of this

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[SPEAKER_00]: and then the fourth quarter happens and the entire game turns on a dime and you actually get some really good football in the fourth quarter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So after three quarters the game is tied six six and in the fourth quarter alone both teams score more points than they had in the previous three quarters.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we said this last week which was you know when you win

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[SPEAKER_00]: unconvincingly there's there's this like idea that okay, you know, as a two and O team, the Niners have this incredible history of if you go to an O, what it means for the rest of the season, Niners are three and O right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't I didn't look up the stat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I imagine it boats very well for their history, but at the same time, I think most national media, I mean, even us are going to say, okay,

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... when it comes to impressiveness in in wins but at the same time like at the way i feel is when they get things on track hopefully they can when you get i u back would block his back and and and and uh... you get your full squad and you know we'll talk about neck here in a second these three winds i think are going to be very helpful in their playoff chase uh... they took advantage of uh... you know winning that new Orleans game when

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[SPEAKER_00]: probably no other team in the NFL, they could probably be to except for New Orleans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then this week, two to no teams, but you know, Arizona is just as flawed as anybody else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As they have, you can see the talent on that team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could see Kyler, you can see some of the things that they did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But,

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[SPEAKER_00]: After playing them, I'm like, yeah, they're they just look like normal Arizona to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they were two and oh, and the teams that they beat hadn't won a game, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so Caroline and the Saints.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, again, and that's the the caution that I've been throwing out all week, yes, they look good and look at the numbers and people, you know, they're talking about their seventh and, you know, did that to that well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: mean, there are going to be a lot of teams like I said this on in the middle of the week and here we go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Look at Seattle today, everybody's going to say at the week after playing the Saints boy, our team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We are we are taking off, but you know, coming off the Saints when you have to take that with a grain of salt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that all that being said, if you look at

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is when they are compromised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're doing all of this compromised if we could stop with the damn injuries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, if you would think that at a certain point the tide will turn on that point and then you get these people back and then, you know, you set yourself up, you bank these winds,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and, you know, you kind of go from there, but yeah, you know, it was, you know, a gutsy win today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mm-hmm.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some things that, you know, that they benefited from because of Arizona's inability to essentially run out the clock, get a first down and run out the clock that night has benefited from that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I kind of have this stream of consciousness of my notes and I kind of want to go in order because I think it tells an interesting story about this game, but we have to start with Nick Bosa Nick Bosa, I think I'd injured in the second quarter and it was a look like a knee injury of sorts, they showed them on the sideline and they showed him throwing up some thumbs down signal to somebody in the stands that did not look like it was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and after the game he never came back in the game after the game the only thing that they said as far as I could tell is that the fear was ACL and it's not ACL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if that means another ligament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that means a knee sprain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that means

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, he's going to be fine and playing next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure we'll find out on Monday at some point, but that was the story after the game was just whatever their biggest fear was as it pertained to the ACL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't that so I guess that's good news, but still the, you know, I'm sure they have to do the imaging and everything and we'll figure that out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that, you know, early in the game, I was like, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wilson and Bryce Huff on third down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're looking really solid and then he goes out and you're like, oh my gosh, here we go again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I felt a bit of, you know, how can this continue to happen?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's gotta be something going on with either luck or karma or training or whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he goes down and your season is probably in jeopardy as far as how good you can actually be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it just, it really impacts it and you know, it, because the whole thing is set up for him to be there, you know, because let's be real.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At least I don't think that, you know, huff and Williams are nearly as effective if it's just those two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they're able to eat and benefit from the attention that Nick gets on the other side and it's a whole different play again we we saw it last year if you can scheme against Bryce Huff you know he is not nearly as effective a player as he's not going to be a guy who's going to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he's not, that's just not what he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, is this again, there aren't many teams that you can take their best past, for sure, off the team and expect the, they're not to be, especially, you know, you're talking when you're talking, make Nick both of you're talking top of the food chain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking Mike Parsons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're talking Max Crossby.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Miles Garrett that level of player and nobody survives that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we just have to keep our fingers crossed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is not something that's going to keep him out of out of action for a very long time because it changes the complexion of our team when he's not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would say I was going to say

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[SPEAKER_01]: again, I just don't, you know, I don't think I'm, you know, I think it's a pretty lukewarm take to say.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just different isn't it isn't the same without Nick Bolson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so there was a moment in the early part of the game where I was like man that tackling looks a lot like the last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: James Connor, he's kind of nifty, but he's not, you know, he's not Barry Sanders in any way is for a

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[SPEAKER_00]: And there were moments where I thought the defense kind of knew what Arizona was doing and that is somewhat, I like, I don't know why you just after watching this game obviously is I look at the stuff that Kyla was doing and I was like, they image just must not trust them throw in the ball down to field or they must not trust their their passing game because everything was short, short, short, screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when you don't really have to worry about the team going down field, even with their tight end, who made some plays, made some good plays, but it's not like he was a threat outside of what they were already doing, which is short passes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so look like to me that the 49ers were not afraid of them going over the top.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so when they did run the ball, you saw lots of 49er jerseys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: running through some of these tackles and I was like, oh, no, here we go again, like with this miss tackling stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then in the second half, I thought the tackling was part of the.

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[SPEAKER_00]: best part of the defense was their ability to rap and to not let one missed tackle going to a long game, even the DBs were coming out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a nice, Siegel hit, I forget who it was on, I was like, man, you know, he doesn't make that play and that's an extra 10 yards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it seemed to turn at some point and then you saw the fast defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You saw the young guys running on the football and I wanted to circle

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of been someone we've had our eye on and his ability to get to the football is is really fun to watch and you know he's not everyone's going to think back to to Drake Greenlaw you know he's he's young and he's going to make some mistakes but the early returns on D Winter are excellent I thought and when you pair him with some of the younger

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[SPEAKER_00]: defensive players that they have, you know, thinking of a future and thinking of out like you're like, man, you know, this is a nice, these are some nice players that you can actually see playing for the team and in the next two or three or four years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you think of winters and that, did you see anything in Arizona's offense or their game plan or whatever that

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[SPEAKER_00]: that you were like, okay, like we're reading a lot of the stuff and they're not really worried about these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I think to your point, I don't think they were necessary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it wasn't that they weren't worried about those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought that they

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[SPEAKER_01]: strive to run routes with particularly McBride to kind of get those same routes and those corner routes, but winter just did a good job of checking him is what my read on it was.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I do agree that there is a problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a serious problem with Kyler and Harrison.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just don't seem to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: in, you know, on the same page at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and when he throws him the ball, he, you know, he dropped two today, just crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a, at one point, he only had two targets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when he threw him two of me, like, drop two of them in a row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like, you know, it's, it's, that's problematic when you can't count on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if they can't, when they couldn't get Connor going,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, which, you know, now is if I turn on a view without him, which kind of what sucks, um, for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't ever like to see anybody because it that I don't know what it was, but it seemed like a pretty serious injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when you when it's like a two commercial break injury that, um, that kind of let you know that it's something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, the tackle was they wrapped him up and he was trying to twist out of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know who the nine or DB was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was a DB.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When he was trying to make the tackle, he had his

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[SPEAKER_00]: hand on Connor's foot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Connor's foot is stuck on the ground while he's trying to twist out of the play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know if it's a broken ankle or a fractured ankle, but it is an ankle injury and to say from tonight or from today that he's out for the season, it's got to be a brutal one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's kind of what happened is he was twisting out of the play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His leg kind of got caught

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[SPEAKER_00]: When they're trying to make the tackle, they had their hand on his foot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think his foot just got stuck in the turf and got twisted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that was rough, but then for whatever reason, they didn't really trust trade Benson with the same Connor reps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they had this rookie who they did not absolutely did not trust because he had a drop on an easy play immediately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a drop and it's like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's it's his wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just know from a fantasy perspective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He would have thought the trade Vincent was, you know, to that's what he was waiting on was that kind of opportunity and the best right to the outside, but they didn't really go to him that much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's going to be interesting moving forward for them because they really

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[SPEAKER_01]: don't seem to have a lot of, you know, playmakers beyond McBride and Harrison and he has this season has just been awful for him quite frankly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's going to be interesting for them moving forward.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I just, I think that winners, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one, I think any comparison between him and Greenlaw is just it's unfair to him at this point But at the same time, there are things that he does that, you know, he is already an elite Pass Defender

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and he just, you know, um, he's coming along as a run defender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I don't, I don't ever know if he's going to be a drain green law level run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If I don't know if he'll ever be that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's that there's a certain level of, um, aggressiveness and physicality that they're, they're built a little differently as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Body wise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So anything speed related.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very good at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's very good at diagnosing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is, he's working his way towards being a good player, you know, a really good player in his own, on his own steam.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that actually, I think he can, you know, I don't want to say that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to say it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to compare anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's on his way to being a very good player because I just

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[SPEAKER_01]: any comparison to Warner or Green Law is just unfair to any player because they're just those players are really, really, really good players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, I've always compared Drake and Green Law to to dream on as a warrior fan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just think that he just brings there is a if he plays on your team you love him and I'm here in the same things and did

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, but if you play against him, not so much, you know, he's that kind of agitator and I just think that's the type of thing that good teams need and have and again, I have no indication that winners is that type of player, but he doesn't have to be he is again, like I say, there's one half of the ball where he is already.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, right at the top of the league, there aren't many past spending linebackers who were as good as him, and then he's coming along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's getting better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is still by PFF numbers up below average run defender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He misses tackles and on tape, you can see who kind of misses.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's out of position sometime he blows assignments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if there, you were,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, it's one of the things where mistakes because of aggression are you can live with them if he runs himself out of position, but those are things that you can coach and teach him and you just as he matures those are things that won't that he those are mistakes that he, you know, hopefully won't continue to make.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he is coming along nicely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he is, he's playing really well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he had a good game today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that you can, because I think McBride is a really good player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that his lack of production, you can accredit to in large part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess I'm not one to,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am a believer that is jibbs and jose over exes and old.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you could give Sala the credit, if you want, that is his scheme.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think it's the players that, you know, you have to have the players to bring alive that scheme.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And any scheme that they had against me prior today was successful because, you know, it centered around winners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just a shout out to Drake Greenlaw, he has not been able to shake that thigh injury and they just put him on IR, so he's got to miss another four games, I kind of circle it back to him, Boston as ACL, in the Super Bowl,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then all of the things that have occurred since then had just sucks because he's in he's a very easy guy for us to root for because we know how much he brought to the team and you want to see guys who actually excel, you want to see them get to that next level with with the paycheck, which he did and then, you know, he won't you want him to continue to to succeed in this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's one of those things we're going to guy

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that's what we as fans say we want is we want guys who will put team goals above their own because, you know, with the injury he had last year, the smart play was to shut it down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he didn't do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She played knowing the risk and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and fortunately for him, he was able to still get, um, you know, a good chunk of guaranteed money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it sucks for him that he hasn't been able to get out of the field yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I root for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: all of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just, even team players on the opposing teams, I damn sure it don't want anybody to be injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just, you know, even if you talk about what when they play against us, you don't want to play well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I don't want anybody to get injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I was it, I was, it wasn't like I was out your chair and when,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Connor got injured for example winning these games are you know obviously as a fan they're important to me but not I don't want to win them at the you know you know at somebody else's expense because they were injured if they don't play well that's one thing but you know being injured is you know something completely different

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did the Niners keep Kyler Murray kind of in check today?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the numbers, the passing numbers say that they did 22 of 35 for 159.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The rushing numbers are there a little bit six for 37.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were a couple of scramble for first downs where he did the Kyler thing where it's like, oh my god,

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[SPEAKER_00]: he is so fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it was there were several times like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like one of the first plays in the game, they like brown, like blitzes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he has a head start and then Kyra starts to run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He like rolls out and then it's like

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like the role runner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's so fast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My man was coming with a head of steam and he just ran away from me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then there was one play where I don't know you're going to try his name number 91, you know 91 numbers not going to catch Kyle Murray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a nice little angle and my man just kind of ran just out ran the angle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a different kind of fast, and like you say, the Niners did a pretty good job of all things considered keeping them contain there are a couple times where, you know, he got, you know, the 15 yards, the play that you, you fear with a guy like that is where you guys are kind of a man, and, you know, you got it covered and then he just, you know, you guys get it was one play where,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The past rush is pretty good, but it's the risk you take is if you're in get upfield and they get deep and they lose contain.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is he's out the gate and there's nobody that's going to catch him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's almost like you don't want to, you don't want to rush him hard because of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that, you know, the potentialality of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but by and large, they did a great job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought so too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the way that Arizona has beat them in the past, which is they get a little bit of a lead and on third down Kyler scoots and picks up first downs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just such a backbreaker for the defense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw, you know, Fred Warner was spying him there a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought by and large, they did a good job on him better than they have in recent memory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we talked about the Connor injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that changed the game for Arizona.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know exactly why I haven't heard the coach talk about why Benson for Connor just meant that they changed their game plan completely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they were using Connor early in the game, like the 49ers used Christian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, you could just call number 91.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could just call him Sam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's just Sam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just Sam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, it's calm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sam.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, Benson, he, I thought the times that he got to ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looked good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they changed the game plan because Connor was their version of CMC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I thought that was a big part of the game for Arizona.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to mention the offensive line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now we know it is patchwork.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know they have a 7th round draft pick starting right now who was actually injured going into the game with a growing injury and they were going to have to start somebody else playing behind the 7th round draft pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this isn't, you know, this is not getting any better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw the back of Colton McKinvitz's jersey a couple times and I shouldn't be seeing in the back of his jersey on the television screen necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was the safety that puny kind of held twice on the same play in almost the exact same way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just one of them was in the end zone very late in the game, which would have been

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[SPEAKER_00]: the the blunder of of the game had they not won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought early in in the first half, like Christian had zipped to run through, like he's just running into the line of scrimmage multiple times, yet as the game went on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Niners offense was on the field a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Cardinals defense was on the field a little bit more, and I could sense that, okay,

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[SPEAKER_00]: just by constantly, you know, Christian here, Christian out in the flat any time they needed, you know, something in the middle it seemed like pretty ricky was was, was getting dialed up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So their game plan effectively worked and maybe that was the game plan knowing that the offensive line is just kind of in shambles and they don't have a ton of depth as it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anytime they lose somebody that's, that's bad news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I was really worried early because I was like, okay, this offensive line is not ready to play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if you can't play the Cardinals, what's gonna happen when we play the Ramies?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And by the way, I'm still afraid of that game in two weeks because the Ramies can just rush for and get to the quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't even need to do anything more than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what did you think of the offensive line and how kind of that seemed like they figured it out late there as the Niners were playing much better in the fourth quarter?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I was, you know, I was impressed overall because the Cardinals have their, I was really concerned going into the game about our interior line, especially with Colby being, you know, starting for the first time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, Clay's Campbell got some rushes and, you know, D.T.

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[SPEAKER_01]: their other defense attack,

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[SPEAKER_01]: got some pressures but overall they um they held up pretty well um I don't have you know I think they only got like one sack and then I don't have any um other um past rush stats but by and large I you know that was a big concern of mine is they you know the cardinals

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did a pretty good job of holding up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They held up well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So even though it was patchwork, it was good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I could say, it's just one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at this point, we just have to understand, kind of like back in the day where you had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now, McKibitz, I think, is a better all around player than McClunchy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: three or four times and you know that you know that's just what you you know he knew he was going to be dominant in the run game and he was going to get beat to it three times and I think McKibitz is the same kind of player now he is a better all around player he is but you know he's he's not over

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[SPEAKER_01]: leverage your index.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's not like a great run defender.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So sometimes he'll keep blowing up in that aspect too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But overall he's a good player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, a decent player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he played okay because, you know, they weren't a whole bunch of free runners at Mac.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I didn't, I didn't really feel like he was under under siege necessarily.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and he, again, he, Matt play a good game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was efficient and he threw a couple balls that, you know, where he threw the one interception and it's just, he's just going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are, he's going to give them opportunities to catch the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just, you know, that's part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to bake that in to, um, to the, to the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, when you take into account that really he only had two targets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he would go to time just, you know, and juice, you know, made a reception.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But by a large, you know, it was Christian McCaffrey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't have my, you've got to pull it up there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was the target, what was the target distribution?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't believe it had to be heavy 15 targets for Christian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, 11 targets for pretty ricky and Kendrick, how many I told you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so 38 targets and 26 of them, 26 of them with Christian and Ricky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, yeah, so when you so obviously these guys get paid to so they

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, where the ball was going and for him to still be effective and down there, he got, again, I apologize for not having the stats for the, but he was close to 300 yards and passing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I imagine it was going to be to ready for to ready.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, he was effective and there were a couple times where I just had to feel and dropping back that, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not that he was staring down Ricky, but I just knew the ball was going to him and I'm sure the card doesn't knew it was going to him and they were able to hit on those plays.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, that there's something to be said for that, but two things and I hate to be the Debbie Downer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen anything that makes me

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, question that, um, the Brock is the guy, but what it has done is made me feel like, well, if, you know, if Mac is able to have this success, how much better will things be when Brock is back, you know, even with the, the birth of, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because, you know, let's, I don't think I'm, again, another lukewarm take.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Brock is just a bit of quarterback, you know, and Matt Jones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, the other thing is, I would say now, we'll see about IU.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They supposedly, I think I heard Matt Barrow say that he saw IU running on the practice field and just looking fantastic, running and then having to run, and then having to run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, routes and catch balls and pivot and get hit like that's a different thing, but if we were to push this thing out, let's say after that Rams game, I think that's when kiddles coming back, hopefully, and then if I if you also get I you back around that time or maybe somewhere or you know after that, that's that's a nice, all of a sudden just a, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, a plus for that offense because like you said, you do see Jake taun just get a pass play, but it's a gimmick play because the defense knows that he's not going to do anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's barely going to run around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's mostly in there to block, but they do a gimmick play and then, you know, he's wide open.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The juice play, I was trying, I didn't even know if I saw him, like I was trying to figure out like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: how much he was on the field today, but he kind of snuck out on the touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think even Valdez scantling and Skymore both had one catch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I remember the scandling one, scantling one, but I don't remember the Skymore one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I thought, you know, Brian Robinson, because you couldn't take McAfrey off the field, but Brian Robinson was kind of underutilized

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[SPEAKER_00]: a great run on an outside run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's very clear that Shinahan and Mac Jones really only believe in two people right now, but that should change not only with Brock getting healthy, because Brock will spread it around more, but with Kittle and IU coming back, that will definitely change the way that this offense plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe Christian will get a little bit of breather because I thought that dude was on the field so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was worried at how much that they were using him in this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I, it just, I, I, I got to get over it, but I, every time like today was it didn't

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[SPEAKER_01]: you're in your thought process that you wanted to have a strong player behind it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just that trade will never make any sense to me because he was, you know, what again, because now it looks like what they want Brian Robertson to be Jordan Mason is that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: running back to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is a running back one, honestly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, I don't know, it's just, it's frustrating to see him somewhere else when is all it was taken was, you know, jazz money to have him here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you feel, you feel a lot more comfortable with, with hell, with Christian off the field

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[SPEAKER_01]: in some looks, but I guess that's water under the bridge now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's with the roster as it is currently constructed in the lack of depth, I mean, it uses his use, his Christian's use is just going to be through the roof because like you say, it just, it doesn't seem to be a whole lot of trust anywhere else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you're kind of rightfully so, it's kind of him

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, pretty ricky at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, I wonder, I do wonder about the usage like how teams look at usage because you could point to Christian and say, well, no tread on his tires last year or very little, but two major injuries on the tread, which aren't, aren't great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But also, the way that the NFL looks at running backs in the sort of use them up because they're going to expire anyways, Christian is very special.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I would imagine that if Christian lost a little bit of a step from the running back perspective, he could probably be utilized as a as a as a slot receiver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's that good, but I do wonder how teams look at that if they're like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're over using him because he's the best player on the field, and even if we were to take him off the field, it's not like that's going to matter for the longevity of his career because running backs just do not last.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, that sounds kind of grotesque to think about it that way, but I wonder if you had if you talked to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: someone like Kyle or McVay or somebody, you know, maybe got him a whiskey or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're, they're being a little truthful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I wonder what they would say about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I about their strategy as far as how they utilize running backs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I was, you know, that's always a narrative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: During game day on Facebook is that, you know, give Brian Robinson the ball, but it's, you know, in a close game, I just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just see those is wasted test just because there's just no way he's going to be consistently as effective as Christian McCaffrey is just, you know, and the threat of him being out on the field is so important that it even if he's out there and you don't get him the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It makes, his gravity makes everybody's else's job so much easier that I just don't see how you can, again, with the lack of weapons that you have at the moment, I just don't see how you can take him off the field for any amount of

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[SPEAKER_01]: time in terms of just going to make any, again, I got to say, I think if you're going to load management, you do that, you do that Monday through Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't do it all Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you, you, you worked watch his practice work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You make sure he's eating right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You make sure the flights are scheduled in such a way that they are able to rest as much as possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You do all of those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Anything that you can do Monday through Saturday,

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[SPEAKER_01]: to make his life as easy as possible, so that you can go out there and give him given the ball 30 times on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's how I would look at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, no, and I would guess that's how they look at it too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's how Christian looks at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, this is my job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got the money that I asked for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is what the job

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[SPEAKER_00]: description is on this football team in a game where it's six to six until the fourth quarter like this anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you're going to do it, you have to do it, you know, I think you have to do it the way the Raiders did it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't like, you know, in this show like to use them as an example, but you know, Chip Kelly was talking about the they are

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[SPEAKER_01]: looking at asking Jinti and using an MBA style model for low managing him and therefore they brought in a couple of backs that they believe can share the load in terms of taking reps when he is out of there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I don't think that the 49ers went about building their running

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[SPEAKER_01]: in that manner because if they had, they wouldn't have had to trade for Bryan Robinson, you know, at the end of August, at the end of training camp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to do that, or again, if that had been the goal from the beginning is what we're going to do is we're going to load managed Christian and we're going to take 78 reps.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna take him off the field for 10 to 15 snaps of game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to again, it just doesn't make any sense to me that you get rid of somebody like Jordan Mason if that's what you want to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cause it seems like he is tailor-made for that kind of work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now again, I understand the people dynamics of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They saw the theme is a running back one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He knows he's a running back one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His page it knows he's a running back one hill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kevin O'Connell saw that he was a running back one, but I also know that the 49ers didn't trade him to be out for whiskey, they didn't all, well, we don't want to hold you back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they would definitely hold him back or hold anybody else back, if it's within their best interest to do so, I think it was just a combination of the money and believe in

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, basically interchangeable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They just believe it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure they thought they would get more out of that fifth round pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't been here for long enough that I even remember his name Matthews.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you know, so that I'm sure that they weren't accounting for

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, being this foreign to the season and not having him out on the field, it all at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, you don't draft somebody with the knowledge that, you know, you probably won't see them for the first half of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that being said, they just didn't, it doesn't feel like they had a plan for managing Christians usage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you're talking about Jordan James, who there it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who is he the two Jordan's were back to back picks for the Niners, 138 and 147 and they're both not on the football field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess I would assume that Watkins has to be close.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd just had as he break through at this point at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, especially because Kendrick Bourne,

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[SPEAKER_00]: looks kind of good like he looks exactly what you want him to look like and they were able to finagle the the game the way that they did without Joanne Jennings there so who was who missed the game so it was just you know like when you say when you you start what you hope is your bank and these wins and when you if you ever get now again as one of those things

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[SPEAKER_01]: The injury that you want has the concern is that it's going to be something that's going to linger the entire season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but if we just play glass half full that at some point you'll have a healthy Jennings and you'll have a healthy kiddo and you'll have a healthy eye you didn't all of a sudden you're talking about Kendrick born

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[SPEAKER_01]: being your fourth pass catcher or fifth pass catcher if you add Ricky Purcell in there into the mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then all of a sudden this dirt becomes a surplus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can just get there and they're well on their way again, I am not

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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't blown away by any of this, but you only have to win on by one point, you know, where we get to week nine, let's say, and it's.

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[SPEAKER_01]: seven and three, you're not nobody's going to look at you know as a golfer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Amen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't look at the scorecard at the end to say, well, you know, it's not how, but how many and they will, if you know if they can get off to, they're already off to a great start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're already off to what they have, that's two wins in the, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: in the division already and they have no losses that this is a hell of a start for them even though it hasn't looked great but if you know if you're a optimist you say it has a look great in part because of all the pieces that they're missing and that that is a fair way to look at it you know so yeah we already talked about huff I just wanted to shout out

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[SPEAKER_00]: Michael Williams, he looks fantastic in the run game, he looks like he's got a nose for making the tackle and there were there were moments in this game, you also want to shout out the defensive line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if they, like I said, there was something there where I think the 49ers are very comfortable with whatever Arizona was running, but you would even see the defensive

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of jump the snap a little bit and just they're in the back field like right away and they're that happen a couple times and you know you'd see Williams there like if they if they needed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they needed someone to come in and actually make the physical tackle, you saw Williams around the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he, you know, as far as the past rush and everything, we saw him combine with Bosa on that one sack last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There wasn't anything like that today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they only got to Kyler once.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was by a huff, the one that the one that we mentioned early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... and and you know the night is only had four cuby hits and and just that one uh... that one sack likewise on the other end uh... mac got hit eight times and had the one sack so uh... but i just wanted to you know everyone's talking about Williams and

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[SPEAKER_00]: whether or not he's going to be the book end that they need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we kind of talked about this in the pre-season in that, you know, his best quality early on in his career might be sliding into the inside when you bring in Huff on third down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so far, what we've seen is he's making plays more like an Eric Armstead than then like a past rushing end whose only job is to get

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[SPEAKER_00]: that you want to make that count.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can go with you on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The problem is, you know, people were talking, you know, fans were talking before his bookner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, you know, anybody who would watch my kill Williams in college knew that that just wasn't an accurate

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[SPEAKER_01]: when I compared him to Cleal and Pharaoh.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cleal and Pharaoh was great versus the run for us in his season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's a good player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, he's one of those guys that I will argue to the death that

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[SPEAKER_01]: the perception of him is the team's fault, not his fault.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel the same way with Solomon Thomas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was watching him play today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's on Dallas at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a good player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fact that he didn't draft himself second overall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he had been drafted 15th or 16th, nobody would have a problem with the production that he's had in his career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, you have a certain expectation of a second overall pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's not that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Playing a Pharaoh didn't have to be picked fourth in a head of nobody, but Mike Mayacht thought the Cleanser Pharaoh was better than Dexter Lawrence, because he made a Cleanser.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for some reason, well, the leadership, as he said, and because he was a good guy, and he, by all accounts, he is a good citizen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't draft the guy forth over all because he's a good guy you expect well at least fans That's not what fans are expecting they aren't they don't really have to go to work with the guy They don't have he's not in the locker room with them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not in the locker room So well all that they can judge on is the production on the field and while he is a he's great against the run he has not

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[SPEAKER_01]: lived up to the production of a fourth overall pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But that's not his fault.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I just, it troubles me when we have these expectations, we come in and we heat these expectations on these players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it's therefore that we're disappointed with the expectations

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[SPEAKER_01]: especially consider we didn't see him at all in the precies and he seems to be getting better every week he's given you something on the past rush which I didn't think that he would.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just thought that he would from what I saw him at Georgia I could tell his size and his physicality that he could

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[SPEAKER_01]: And anything they get from the past rush developing him saw this wouldn't been doing a great job of scheming these guys into looks in the past rush.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Again, he did that today with um.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: His going past first was, you know, it was a blitz basically and he does that in times it up perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just because he's not going to be a guy that you're just going to line up out there and just have him win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just, you know, especially not against a quarter back like Kyler because he's not going to be standing back there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at seven yards waiting for Huff to hitting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's gonna run and his Huff is not as fast as him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just bottom line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, Salah has been doing a great job of time in his blitzes this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't get the game winner against the Seahawks wasn't that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, and you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: up just one basically on the one against the Saints.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he's been good and I think Williams has been good and it's been it hasn't been pretty any of these weeks all three weeks were kind of ugly but the fact that you know they're sitting at three and oh hey man I'll take it

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the the next thing I wanted to mention we don't have to spend a lot of time on this because it's just Rinse wash rinse for Pete Fred being Fred 11 tackles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just so good third down play one of the biggest plays of the game bats down a Kyler Murray pass I thought that would maybe have been the biggest defensive play, but it's not because then

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[SPEAKER_00]: they got the ball back and then they had to punt because Kyler, who's the receiver that Kyler?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it Zay Jones who couldn't come down with the catch and who was the DB that was on him because he made it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He made an accident.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had the ball caught.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just played, you know, stopped, just played through the ball and got, you know, he wasn't able to hold onto it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kyla hitting and he caught it, it was just a great play on Stout to play to continue to play through to the ground.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that wasn't, you know, it was a perfectly executed play by the Cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just an excellent effort by Stout to continue to play through it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah,

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[SPEAKER_00]: stupid penalty in the end zone of this is the next thing I was going to talk about, which is, the way that Atlanta gets nine points in the fourth quarter is off a four-anter penalties.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The safety comes off of a puny hold in the end zone and the touchdown to McBride is actually the

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[SPEAKER_00]: an under a ball thrown to the other receiver that was in front of his receiver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he thought he thought he was beat and he thought that's where Kyla was going with the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kyla wasn't going with the ball there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's playing it as if he's got to do something to stop a touchdown and the ball didn't even go to his receiver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I get that, but what you know, Sanchez hit on the head that it wasn't okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got beat, but then he panicked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't, you know, he didn't just continue playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like, oh, no.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he, you know, it was that kind of, you know, he wasn't even a smooth with it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, he made the call super easy for the rest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, he didn't even try to play it off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: grabbed the guy and, you know, I don't know, and it, it, it, it kind of bit us in the butt, but, you know, it worked out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and so, you know, those, those moments where you don't want those things, because it's really the only reason that the Cardinals scored a touch that that was literally their biggest play in the whole game was the Niners defense of

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's sometimes going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You've talked about Renardo Green and his handziness from the beginning since the nine are drafted him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But those penalties are really the reason why the Cardinals were in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it is, if the nineers don't come back and win, those are going to be the ones that kind of get talking about, yeah, get fingered it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the reason why they lost and what Kyle's going to get asked about at the presser.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, a couple of the other things before we get out of here, which is Mac Jones and pretty Ricky, they got something going on, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a rhythm, they have a chemistry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ricky makes a great catch down the sideline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To get the touch down that puts them up 136, this was on a third and one play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where I'm assuming if they don't get it the route they're going on fourth down anyways but so that that was the opportunity down the sideline over the shoulder Rick comes down with it falling out of bounds he may have even got dinged up on that play because he didn't get up yeah very well but good to call gutsy throw gutsy catch

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[SPEAKER_00]: there's something to that now next week Brock may be back he he could you know they were talking about Brock being the backup today and he was not he was in active so he may be back but Ricky is showing that he's got the the ability and and the faith of you know I'm assuming he's got Mac Jones's faith because

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[SPEAKER_00]: and and he and Brock seem to be working towards that in the first game of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is this has been awesome because my fear with Ricky was the more eyeballs on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The harder it was going to be for him to get open and with Jennings out and with Kendrick Borne and Valdez Gantling and Skymore and Tongest the other guys who who were available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had, you know, if you were trying to stop somebody, you were trying to stop Christian you were trying to stop Ricky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now if Christian is out of the game, then maybe Ricky just gets blanketed like crazy, but.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He shone some ability to be targeted and to still get open and to still make great catches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He made a great catch on a ball that was kind of thrown out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was like a little bit of a throw away, but Rick still stopped on the dime and reverses body and reached out and caught the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So A plus for Ricky so far this season and this whatever it is with him and Mac has been great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just hope it transfers over to him and Brock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, it, what has been great is with scaling and then now with born, even with John out, they have been able to continue to let Ricky play out of the slot, which is something we had talked about before, is because if you are forced into a situation where you have a plant outside, I just don't think that that both well for him and his skill set,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got to be able to have the space to work out of the slide.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he is great from there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, hopefully, as team gets healthier and healthier, he'll be able to stay there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the looks that he will continue to get better as I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's the kind of guy who's going to get better as the talent around him gets better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, give him nearly as much attention as he's even getting now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really looking forward to see, like you say, the connection between him and Brock continue to grow and flourish.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, a couple of the last things we talked about CMC being the workhorse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, he was absolutely the workhorse of this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He still, they still have not figured out how to get him loose in the run games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 3.1 yards per carry still has not gotten into the end zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is still a work in progress.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How does he look overall to you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that he looks, he doesn't look like he's got 2023 juice yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't know that it is that because the holes aren't there, the way they were, because just objectively, the office of mine is not as good as it was two years ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: account for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But maybe he is just a step slower, you know, because he's two years older and coming off of, you know, a couple of major injuries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's still a gravitational force out there the teams have to be aware of, I think, especially in the past game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, it's going to be again, and I think that it'll be more and more interesting as he is not able to be the focal point, the way that he is now where everybody at this point everybody can kind of just shade, you know, whatever their responsibility is they can also spend a little time keeping their eyes on him because

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there really aren't that many weapons or things.

01:00:44.473 --> 01:00:47.035
[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a linebacker, it's not like you've got kittled out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, having to worry about conscious or fear or is not the same as having to be concerned about kittled, same thing with your cornerback, same things with your safeties.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, the ability to do to shade just a little bit and cheat just a little bit towards Christian a little bit more easier and I'm not sure what that does in terms of affecting his overall, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: to get the bank these wins when they have been ailing and hopefully as they get stronger, they will get better, both on both sides of the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I mean, let's give them credit for somebody who for a fan base that coups on Kyle so much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has done an excellent job of manufacturing opportunities

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[SPEAKER_00]: as in the same way that I think that him and Sala have been very, very complimentary to each other as play callers this season and you know we got to talk about the the last drive I thought it was a brilliant last drive you have just over two minutes left in the game or no if you had a little bit less in two minutes in the game and you go all the way

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[SPEAKER_00]: 80 in, you know, you got it on your own 20 because the punt went in the end zone and Skymore very brilliantly decided to let that one bounce and on the other end I thought the cardinals punt returner didn't do that and and.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even I think even the one before that sky more caught it like inside the five like I don't know what it is with these with these Punctures just not letting balls drop around the five yard line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're actually fair catching it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe the punters are just so much better At making the ball bounce Backwards and you don't want to get stuck with the with the you know the ball Being inside the five, but I'm seeing a lot in this game specifically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of catching like the ball at the eight and calling for a fair catch But then to go from our 20

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[SPEAKER_00]: All the way down to, I think it was, I think they got all the way down to the Cardinals like 17 or something in a span of less than two minutes, there were some really nice plays like I mentioned the gadget play to tanges, there was a screen a quick screen to see him see where he broke out and that was probably his biggest play of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was a brilliant, just under two minutes, Cardinals defense on their heels and Mac Jones, you know, didn't make a mistake in this on this series when he had made one on the previous series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was, that was some good stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll end with this, which is Chad Ryland, the Arizona Cardinals kicker goes two for three and Latino heat, Eddie Pinearo goes three for three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we can only base this on how we felt about Jake Moody had Jake Moody been on this field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jake Moody very well may have made the 35 yard fill goal, but I can tell you, my confidence level in Paniero kicking versus what it would have been if Jake Moody was kicking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was pretty confident this thing was going in and I was excited that they got as far as they did, whereas when Moody was kicking, I was worried that they didn't go for the touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I would have been worried that they should have gone for the touchdown knowing that Moody is shaky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's been fantastic so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could say that that was the right call after week one, at least so far to get out from under this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You gave them three years or two and two years and a game and you just can't afford to and I wonder how much of it was them knowing the offense was going to struggle with all these guys out and they needed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to bank those points in these games which they've been able to at least these last two to win some close one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So great job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, we don't really, how can you give Kudos to a guy to make a 35 yard or but the flip side would would have been us like pausing the TV and and getting something to drink and like going like, oh my gosh, who what what what what what do I have to put on the which hat,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't do that with a year old.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You just go up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is, I'm not saying he's Robbie Gold, but you feel so much better with him kicking, and then already then with Jake kicking.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's based on his track record.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because that's all I know about him is they tell me he's got the fourth best percentage in history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you kind of, okay, that's fine.

01:06:13.796 --> 01:06:16.877
[SPEAKER_01]: You just kind of expecting to make it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And

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[SPEAKER_01]: to this point, he has been money straight down the middle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It hasn't been, you know, outside of his first ex-for point, which, you know, he's allowed to have some nerves, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he's been solid, rock solid, other than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's all you want, honestly, is he,

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[SPEAKER_01]: like these other crazy kickers that moody probably will develop into that, you know, is live from 63.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that's not what you're signing up for with Piniero.

01:06:52.638 --> 01:07:01.025
[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, it seems like inside of 50, his career record says it, you know, he's pretty, he's money.

01:07:01.645 --> 01:07:05.328
[SPEAKER_01]: And so that's, you know, if you have to

01:07:06.777 --> 01:07:09.778
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and he's fine with the kickoff.

01:07:09.838 --> 01:07:17.320
[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have to, it's crazy that you think that, you know, wow, he only, he can only be good from 53.54.

01:07:18.660 --> 01:07:24.682
[SPEAKER_01]: I remember there was a time when that was, you know, that was a great thing to be.

01:07:24.842 --> 01:07:34.505
[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, it's the advent of, you know, the guys are routinely kicking 60 plus your field goes and making a good number of them.

01:07:36.611 --> 01:07:41.292
[SPEAKER_01]: It's a whole new world out here for kickers, Ray Worshings career long.

01:07:41.332 --> 01:07:45.434
[SPEAKER_00]: I just looked at 53 yards, which is actually pretty good for Ray.

01:07:45.494 --> 01:07:47.694
[SPEAKER_01]: That's not bad for that time.

01:07:48.094 --> 01:08:03.179
[SPEAKER_01]: That time, it's just, it's just, you know, because I know when Ray's time, those guys that they weren't going to kick in camps, you know, when they were eight and nine years old, you know, these guys, these guys, and now they kick, you know, like literally,

01:08:04.393 --> 01:08:12.462
[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they are going to camps and the coaches and all of that from, you know, 10, 12, you know, 10, 12 years old.

01:08:12.522 --> 01:08:15.245
[SPEAKER_01]: If you got the resources and money to do that.

01:08:15.365 --> 01:08:18.488
[SPEAKER_01]: So this is a different, it's, it's a different game.

01:08:29.877 --> 01:08:38.023
[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so good stuff and you know, they come away with a win 16 15 at the buzzer the perfect drive to end the game.

01:08:38.063 --> 01:08:40.926
[SPEAKER_00]: You saw Kyler just sad on the sideline.

01:08:41.006 --> 01:08:43.467
[SPEAKER_00]: He was just like I know what's coming man.

01:08:43.507 --> 01:08:44.869
[SPEAKER_00]: This is not this is not cool.

01:08:45.569 --> 01:08:54.576
[SPEAKER_00]: So the Niners play Jacksonville next at home and the jacks themselves got a big win today so

01:08:57.310 --> 01:09:06.637
[SPEAKER_00]: uh, you know, they're, they're kind of coming in a, a little hot, I guess if you're a Jags fan, you know, maybe you're, you're thinking, you know, knives don't look great.

01:09:06.737 --> 01:09:10.881
[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we beat Houston who is supposed to be a better team than ours.

01:09:10.901 --> 01:09:14.524
[SPEAKER_00]: And, and so maybe they're thinking that they can come through.

01:09:14.544 --> 01:09:16.265
[SPEAKER_00]: They are two and one as well.

01:09:16.825 --> 01:09:20.208
[SPEAKER_00]: The cults of all teams just vote racing teams right now.

01:09:21.109 --> 01:09:21.709
[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it's great.

01:09:22.670 --> 01:09:24.792
[SPEAKER_01]: And they, you know, in the, the, the, the,

01:09:25.866 --> 01:09:30.689
[SPEAKER_01]: Jags kind of got a preview this week of what they'll see.

01:09:31.750 --> 01:09:44.178
[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously this team isn't as loaded on defense as the Texans are, but it's a similar scheme and you know that will help them

01:09:53.208 --> 01:09:55.229
[SPEAKER_01]: to thinking back on it's it's easy.

01:09:55.289 --> 01:10:03.292
[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't played anybody as good as Brian Thomas yet from receiving standpoint and Smith and Jeff was pretty good.

01:10:04.012 --> 01:10:04.833
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's pretty good.

01:10:04.993 --> 01:10:07.774
[SPEAKER_01]: He's I just don't think he's as good a player as Thomas.

01:10:07.814 --> 01:10:13.556
[SPEAKER_01]: So he but like you say they that they did pretty well against him.

01:10:13.816 --> 01:10:20.439
[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we'll see it's going to be it's going to be another good test for us at least we'll get him at home this time.

01:10:21.004 --> 01:10:21.304
[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

01:10:21.624 --> 01:10:27.648
[SPEAKER_01]: So, is that true that Jacksonville trip is no bueno this time of year?

01:10:27.668 --> 01:10:32.311
[SPEAKER_00]: Well, so we'll come back next weekend.

01:10:32.452 --> 01:10:35.153
[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think we're going to be able to live stream.

01:10:36.334 --> 01:10:40.577
[SPEAKER_00]: But the next game after that is Thursday, night against the Rams.

01:10:41.280 --> 01:10:45.883
[SPEAKER_00]: And we can come back live after that Thursday game.

01:10:46.543 --> 01:10:49.384
[SPEAKER_01]: So those will be the next two home both accounts.

01:10:50.265 --> 01:10:57.329
[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll be, so we'll, I mean, we're gonna be here for all 17 games and any any playoff games as well.

01:10:58.189 --> 01:11:01.731
[SPEAKER_00]: So that that is the schedule for the rest of the week.

01:11:01.771 --> 01:11:05.493
[SPEAKER_00]: Now, you know, my giants have kind of faded.

01:11:06.013 --> 01:11:08.014
[SPEAKER_00]: So Brad and I are gonna are kind of wrapping up

01:11:09.934 --> 01:11:18.241
[SPEAKER_00]: And my Valkyries lost, so they're done, but our warriors are getting ready for training camp in the next couple weeks.

01:11:18.301 --> 01:11:20.722
[SPEAKER_00]: So that there's something going on there.

01:11:20.762 --> 01:11:23.104
[SPEAKER_00]: But for now, it's really going to be Niners.

01:11:23.164 --> 01:11:26.347
[SPEAKER_00]: If the Niners can continue to win ball games, they're going to be the talk of the Bay.

01:11:26.407 --> 01:11:31.191
[SPEAKER_00]: They already almost always are the talk of the Bay anyways, just for being football and for being the 49ers.

01:11:31.291 --> 01:11:36.134
[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, this is a nice change of pace from what we were dealing

01:11:40.111 --> 01:11:49.095
[SPEAKER_00]: Man, you know, what could have been if X didn't happen, X is happening and they're still able to win these very winable games.

01:11:49.175 --> 01:11:56.218
[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll hopefully, that gives us a little bit of a good luck when it comes to guys coming back.

01:11:56.278 --> 01:12:00.460
[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, we can get a little bit closer to full both there.

01:12:00.980 --> 01:12:02.521
[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here.

01:12:02.881 --> 01:12:04.822
[SPEAKER_00]: For Rod, I'm WG.

01:12:04.862 --> 01:12:07.823
[SPEAKER_00]: We will see you when we see you piece out.