Sept. 7, 2025

49ers Survive Seahawks & Overcome Moody, Purdy Mistakes | We Want Winners

49ers Survive Seahawks & Overcome Moody, Purdy Mistakes | We Want Winners

Despite a shaky performance from Jake Moody and two interceptions by Brock Purdy, the San Francisco 49ers clinched a huge Week 1 victory in Seattle. On this episode of We Want Winners, Garrett Gonzales and Roderick Adams break down the good, the bad, and the ugly from the game, including Ricky Pearsall's breakout performance and Jake Tonges' game-winning touchdown, and look ahead to the next challenge in New Orleans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Welcome back to we want winners, Niners in week one came away with a victory in Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wouldn't consider it a fantastic game by any means, but at the end of the day when you go into Seattle and you come away with a victory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though last year for whatever reason Seattle was not a good home team, but still like that place was loud.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I sense that maybe there were more nine or fans than usual there, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was still a good victory.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Rod and I will talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some negatives to it including some injuries that we'll discuss here, but Rod overall coming away with a game in which it very much looked like it was probably going to be a heartbreaker on the 49ers then coming out of that game with a victory has to be a positive after week one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, like you say, it was lining up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You watch enough of these games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they call it the witching hour on Reson, where the good and the bad and the ugly happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was blind enough, like, oh, you know, this is going to, Donald's going to go down here and they're going to score touchdown and it's going to be a heartbreaker.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you realize, oh, it's same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Donald, that's okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was, it, we all left happy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it didn't feel good there at the end for me, at least.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I guess the first thing, and I imagine even as you come out of the game as a 49ers fan,

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[SPEAKER_00]: going like, okay, we're want to know, we're going to New Orleans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: New Orleans is depend on who you talk to, you know, one of the two or three worst teams in football, at least right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you feel like, okay, like, that's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you go to a know, and then you start, you know, you start the season in good shape.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There is a problem with

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looked worse than ever to me, like I was, you know, Skymore, Skymore did a dependable job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say returning punts, but they had penalties on, it was either on a punter or kickoff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Moody, we haven't even talked about the misfielgo, but the Niners take the lead 1713.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you don't have a lot of time left on the clock, I'm going to guess they wanted moody to kick that thing to the one yard line and he kicks it right in the end zone and then Seattle gets to the ball of 35 like immediately kind of going like, okay, what you said earlier, all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This this has all the makings of the Niners giving this game away to Seattle at the end, but it's stuff like that where, you know, they, they got, they grab the new special teams coach and they made it a priority in preseason and in training camp to rebuild the special teams Jake moody misses a chippy early in the game, then they get another one blocked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just like, man, this special teams, which is supposed to be rebuilt looks worse than it's ever looked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was just flummiing to watching this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was really frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like you say, we had been sold, you know, the the rebuild and it just didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You couldn't tell, like you said, you couldn't tell by today's performance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it was, it was just all around the, like I was looking for things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the best I could come up with was Skymore was safe and dependable on punk returns.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that was as as much as I could could muster as far as positivity for special schemes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But where are you with Moody?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think when he missed the first kick, which was a 27-year-older,

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[SPEAKER_00]: As the Niners offense was looking pretty decent, I think the defense looked not at least in the first half, maybe the run defense looked a little iffy because I was kind of wondering, I was like, man, this looks a lot like last year, but then they held ground in the second half and I thought they did a really good job in the second half, but you're watching this moody stuff and it's just like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Were you at the point of, let's get Greg Joseph on the phone and not let Moody get back on the flight?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, where were you after the first miss?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just... I was where we seemed like Kyle was when we went to that game against Chicago, where was I was like... We're just gonna go for it on the way for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we aren't gonna try and back out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because at this point, we've seen enough of him to know that it's not physical.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not he, he's able to kick the hell out of the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's this physical talent, it's not question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's got to be mental at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you get to that place,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's like, I'm a golfer and like, when you get the yips as a, I mean, it's like, how do you fix that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: How do you get out of it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, so he was one of three and I guess the block is not on him, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, I am able to tell if, you know, who's it fall necessarily?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he kick it too low?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did they just allow too much penetration?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not smart enough to discern that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's a concern, you know, and it would have been, um, I believe if not for Nick Bosa, it might have been a story, you know, at the end of this game if we don't pull it out, or, you know, if they go down, they score and we lose by three, I mean, that's all we're going to

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like we have forestalled that for another week, but I mean, he would have to go on a long, excuse me, a long streak of not missing for this not to be an issue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to continue to be an issue every time he misses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the story of the game,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Niners come out and score very early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: George Kittle looks fantastic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like the party to Kittle is just going to be there all day long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he pulls his hamstring, I think it was he was blocking or it was a play that was not, he wasn't really involved in it and he was just running down field and it looks like he came up limp.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he was out for most of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joanne Jennings looks like he heard his shoulder so then he's out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Brock Perty down 13 to 10 in the fourth quarter

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[SPEAKER_00]: the last drive of the game for the 49ers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: His wide receivers are Ricky Pierceall, who had an excellent game, by the way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Russell Gage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Jake Tongis, those are his receiver, and of course, CMC out of the backfield, who they used exclusively in some cases, like any time Brock needed, you know, a first down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, OK, we're just going to get CMC out there and we're going to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But those were the receivers that pretty had to throw to it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we get down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's it's third and goal and pretty rolls out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and he's sitting there sitting there's got to roll out again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He actually rolls out of the pocket two times on this play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: goes throws off of his back foot, which was a problem earlier because he threw an interception off of his back foot earlier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so now he throws it what I assume was just literally up for grabs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like, all right, I'm going to give our tight end who is taller than the DB a chance to try and get up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he kind of underthrows the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Tungis doesn't even have a chance to kind of outleap the DB instead, Tungis has to come back and the DB is kind of just waiting there to catch the ball and Tungis jumps in front of the DB snatches the ball out of the air for the touchdown and I saw quote where he was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wanted to make sure I got my feet in and I didn't even realize everything that happened until I looked at Russell Gage and Gage was like, you scored and then tongue just was like, oh my gosh, this is the, you know, the go ahead touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, this is, this is why to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This game felt eerily similar to 2024, but in 2024, I think we'd lose this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the little bit of a difference because you had the injuries, you had the special teams break down and you had Brock trying to be Superman, which he actually talked about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The offseason saying there were times because of all the injuries where I tried to do way too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that cost us,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he kind of did that today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were two interceptions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The second interception was like, one of the worst those you're going to see from Brock, he threw it into triple coverage and pretty ricky had no chance to get the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you had all of the designs of the 49ers losing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Except you had Christian now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think Christian had what you would consider one of his best games, but he was just there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The fact that he was there was so helpful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then they do pull it out at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was the main difference.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That throw to Tungis was, like I said, seemed like it was a little bit up for grabs, but Kudos to Tungis and Kudos to Perti, I guess, for putting it out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I didn't rock in another near interception.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was again, just not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: wasn't very good decision making.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, you know, you know, you know, win is a win, but it was kind of concerning that according to a stat I saw on

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[SPEAKER_01]: Twitter, so you take that for what it's worth, that according, you know, with two games to go, last this this evening and then Monday night, to that point after the late games, Brock, it was like fourth in the amount of time per pass, and he still seemed to be rushing and

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[SPEAKER_01]: I win as a win, but there was a lot of, you know, I can't remember very many, I can't think, I can't remember Brockham very many multiple turnover games, so it was not his best performance by any stretch of the imagination, but, you know, we got the win and then also,

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[SPEAKER_01]: while I am not one to like I said in our you know preview of the season, I think it's ridiculous to to limit put like a pitch count on CMC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but also 32 touches is eight, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: pretty rickie not restant because he had a great game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just at what kiddo goes out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, CMC is it in terms of somebody you would consider.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody that defense is worried about because again, we had a great game and it looks like he's going to get a lot of targets just, you know, as a matter of course, but again, I saw nothing

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I watch the game and I just don't think that Ricky Pierce was going to be somebody that, you know, defense of coordinators going to stay up late at night worried about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he's getting, if he is your why receiver one in air quotes, you know, I think most defenses feel like they can

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[SPEAKER_01]: with, you know, 10, 12 target games from Ricky Piercele, it's just, you know, he's just not that kind of game record, but he had a great game, too, and him and Brock seem to have, they seem to have a real good connection.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he, I believe,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is ideally suited to play that slot, and to play off guys like when I come back and kiddo, in McAfrey, if he's in the mix like that, I think that's where he is best served.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want him to be somebody that the defense is focused on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, it was a great game, and I don't

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want that to sound like shade or because it was a good win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was concerning, like, I think you had kind of mentioned.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like, you know, when a play needed to be made, you knew where party was going to fall.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was, he was going to find a way to get it to Christian regardless.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it was that was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It worked out that we won the game, but I was really crest walling when George went out because he looked great early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and look, he's going to be the guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think without Brennan, I, you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to be the guy that if I was defense coordinator, I would be focusing on because he's a match of nightmare.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he really is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, we were talking about whether or not he's going to start falling off a little bit with production because of his age and last year he's like, nope, I'm going to be better than I've ever been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, you saw him in the first quarter and you're like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's the man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, you know, you have your tight end being your first option to score touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he just runs a little out route into the near the Pylon for a touchdown and that was the play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that, you know, when he went out, you

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was probably one of the bigger losses that you could have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe CMC, if he had gotten hurt, that would have been a bigger loss, but George is probably second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's going to be will be watching the injury report for the MRI on his hamstring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess Jennings is going to

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wanted to ask you, or actually I wanted to mention supposedly Pierce saw the opportunity for the double move and he told Shanahan that it was going to be open and that's why they called the play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was trying to, as I was reading, I think it was Matt Barrow's callem in the athletic, I guess Pierce saw was interview talking about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It sounded like he was like, hey,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we need a big play, let's run this and they ran it at the perfect time late in the game and he does a double move and catches a, you know, 40 some odd yard pass, which if you're Brock Perti.

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[SPEAKER_00]: we talked about this last year where he's got a little bit of that gunslinger mentality, he had just thrown a pick on the series before.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then you're like, he's just, he's just just going for it and it was there and I thought that was a really great play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, so that, you know, if Ricky Pierce all in year two has got Kyle's ear like that, when other year two receivers, you know, could barely go on a field and Pierce else already got like, hey, man, let's call this play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought that was kind of telling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talked about this a couple of weeks ago that if Pierce all is your, your one and he gets all the focus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably he's probably going to

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, get shut down essentially, but that could open up stuff for other guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In this sense, you know, to see what he saw and be able to figure that out, I thought that was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you think about Bryan Robinson, because to your point about Christian, the I think if you're Kyle,

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[SPEAKER_00]: you're a little bit more comfortable pull and Christian out for plays if you think that Brian Robinson can do some things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought he ran the ball okay in the fourth quarter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of that was probably just a little bit of the Seattle defensive line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Getting tired, but then there were moments where, you know, we needed two yards and they didn't allow the two yards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they, they, you know, they were ready then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I thought that

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's, go ahead, no, no, I'm sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off, no, no, no, no, I was done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's what I saw in Washington, is he, he'll get what's blocked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can count on him to do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's just not a very explosive player, that's just not, you know, if you block it, he'll get it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, that's what,

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[SPEAKER_01]: he is and you know I that was what I saw today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't see anything that you know it was what I expected and I just it's one of those deals where you know if you want to get Christian you don't want you don't want here again like I said I don't think you want him touching the ball 30 plus times but

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not like you want to give a bunch of those, I'm not necessarily comfortable with giving a bunch of those carries or targets to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, V-Rop is just, because I just don't know what he's going to do with him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he's for he, he got, he caught a pass and got, you know, he didn't get any yards after the catch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he ended up averaging, you know, like three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what was it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I, was it even three and a half yards of carry?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was at three seven Christian was at three one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, but Christian early on, it was, they, it was really tough sledding.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they had 53 yards in the first half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it just really didn't seem like there was much there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought they ran the ball better relatively in the second half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it's, um, that's going to, it's something that's going to be continued to be monitored.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and hopefully, you know, as we move forward, you know, they'll be able to between Robinson and hopefully, Garendo can come back and so he has some juice, you know, he's fast and I think he'll end up if he can get healthy, I think he's more of a change of pace along the lines of what we need than Bryan Robinson is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm good again, Bryan Robinson, a solid back,

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[SPEAKER_01]: will, you know, he's not going to kill you or hurt you out there, but he's not going to, you're not going to get a 25 or 30 yard run or, you know, past play from him, whereas we saw that Corrindo can give you that kind of explosive big play, which if I'm going to give

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if I'm going to take him away from Christian, I'd rather, I don't want to give him to somebody who's just going to get me for yards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would prefer to give him to somebody who might take it to the house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's the kind of player Garendo seemed to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it seems like just like the, you know, like Eli Mitchell before him, that those

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we talked a lot about the offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's look at the defense here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the first, the first drive the game by the Seahawks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the Niners blitz a couple times and I thought oh wow you know they're they're really going to go after Donald and they're going to make Donald make some you know maybe some quicker decisions than he wants and I was thinking like oh you know there's going to be some turnover share like he's going to make some bad reads is going to make some bad throws.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they kind of pulled back and they didn't really do it a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if it was because Smith and Jibba was kind of cooking them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's why they needed help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, up and Stout had a rough ball game they just picked on him like he was

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he had a target on his back, but if you look at the targets for the for the Seahawks Smith and Jigba had nine catches for 124 yards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he had a really good game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did fumble though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was a tough a tough play for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know who was the second leading receiver?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you were to guess, who would you think was the second leading

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say it was a running back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe Kenneth Walker maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three catches for four yards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was their second.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he had he had a horrible came, honestly, ten, ten rushes for 20 yards and two, three catch for four yards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, Donald, that they went run heavy similar to the Niners.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Niners had the ball and, you know, much, much longer and then, you know, that they seem to be moving it decently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just could not put the thing in the end zone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: 84 yards.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Zack Sharberner, Sharberno, he looks like the best player on their offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He and Smith and Jigwell, but he's a number two running back to Kenneth Walker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know a lot of Seattle fans who think Walker's going to have a big season, but there's a reason I picked up Sharberno on a couple of fantasy teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like, you know, that's defensively,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just wonder if the Niners were like, okay, like we don't really have to do much because we're going to be able to stop Seattle from getting in the end zone and then late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when it looked like Seattle was going to make that drive to end the game and come back and win the game, then boasts is like, hey, guys, remember me, and he just pushes the tackle right into Darnall, does he's about to make a throw, gets credit for a sack, Darnall fumbles, boasts a picks up the fumble, and that ice is the game for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did you think about

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[SPEAKER_00]: the defense specifically around, you know, when you only give up 13 points and you go into somebody's house and win a game, the defense has to have to be a part of that and play a big part of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, they may have been a little bend, but don't break, but ultimately we're out, you know, Salas here for a reason, what do you think a game won?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when you give up 13 points, I don't care who you're playing against and what, you know, deficiencies they might have, which I think that there are many because they were the big thing coming and they went to, you know, they're running the shanning, they're running the same office we run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the big question was, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: What was their offensive line going to be able to establish a strong run game because like we know as 49er fans, when you can rush the ball, it sets up this offense is predicated on being able to if you're able to run the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: everything else kind of opens up to you play action and otherwise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they just, as you said, they were just completely ineffective running the ball, which showed in the number of attempts and the average.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also the lack of, you know, we held the ball for 38 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that

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[SPEAKER_01]: Part of it was partly because of our offense, but it was partly because there, you know, between our defense and there, um, and up to two and being able to run the ball, um, it was just problematic and it was, you know, I just opened up the stats, um, JSN was pretty much it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's crazy that, you know, like you said, you know, the second leader receiver was Kenneth Walker, and he had as many targets as Cooper Cup, which, you know, maybe Cup is cooked.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, but yes, Donald didn't look great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know if that was, I'm sure that was a combination of him just being Sam Darno.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, our defense, the defense was solid, solid.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a very good first effort.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just, you know, it's a ridiculously simple take, but the defense looks a lot better when you got

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looked pretty rough in the preseason, but you know, those guys are, you know, the quintessentially racers they are able to make plays and make make a defense look bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they make an offense look bad and that's really what it came down to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they were really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was looking at the young players who the Niners drafted to see who showed up on the stat sheet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Marcus Seagull, six tackles, five solo tackles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You saw him on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was in the mix.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ronald Green's second year player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had I think he had a hold, but he also had a great play where it may have been Smith and Jigba who caught a ball and as they were going down a green pulled it out of his hands for an incomplete pass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do I look at?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, sorry, Alfred Collins and Michael Williams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One tackle each.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't even really see Williams much and then Bryce Huff who they talked about he may have had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he have like a good rush?

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[SPEAKER_00]: There may have been one where he batted down a pass or something, but ultimately he's not on the stat sheet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't I couldn't even tell how much he played, but what did you think about any of the new comers who who stood out and who was like this does this person even play?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was the same.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I see like Gifford had four tackles, but I don't really recall that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was expecting more, you know, when you look at the preseason, I was expecting more from Chase Lucas, but you know, he only had a tackle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: up to start they talked him up a bit and he had a pretty rough the first go of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Alfred Collins had one really good play and then I didn't really even notice Williams honestly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah it was it was obviously collective effort.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't outside of Fred and Nick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody else really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: really stood out to me in terms of, um, you know, I guess you're, you're, your Seagulls name a lot and he seemed to be around the ball a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yeah, it was, it was, it was a, it was a, a, it seemed more of a group effort than anything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll give you one more guy who I'd definitely noticed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: D winters had a couple nice plays and he was second on the team and tackles for loss.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Nick had three and he had two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where the speed comes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they blow up the play and they can read what Seattle was doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Seattle had a couple of really odd plays that I did not think that were necessarily right for the moment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hear here I am offensive coordinator extraordinaire because I play NCAA football on my PS5.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there were a couple like there was a screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was like a delayed wide receiver screen that looked like the Niners read completely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And and darkness still through through the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They even tried a hook and ladder on the third down that seemed kind of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, a little anxious, like maybe we can't really do this normally.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we got to, you know, dial up the trickery, but I did notice D because, you know, you notice him because he's quick and he gets in there and, you know, he, he blew up a couple of plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did not see Nick Martin very much and I don't know that he had any tackles at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he's on the stat sheet either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, decent, you know, just, it's not that those guys, oh, actually, I have the, the inactive's right in front of me, Nick Martin was inactive before the game, so he did not even get an opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they had, they had Bethume and they had Gifford ahead of him and,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so he's an active for the game even started.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder what we'll hear about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we hear anything from Shanahan on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Niners, they go into New Orleans and because it's a 10 o'clock game, I think you and I might be able to actually go live next week after the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wasn't able to go live tonight because I have

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[SPEAKER_00]: My wife and I have something to do at 430 for the next few Sundays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So any home games through Rocktober will have to do it like this for Rod and I record late and we don't go live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But any road games where they start early will be able to go a little bit earlier and maybe even go live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So next week we'll be able to do that if you are available right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to speak to you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am absolutely available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Saints.

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[SPEAKER_00]: had a game against the Cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess they were game, like I didn't get to see any of it, but reading the recaps, it looks like the saints were kind of driving to tie the game, but the Cardinals stopped them on all four downs to end the game, essentially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they played them tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, that is not to say that the buyers are going to go in there and blow them out or anything, because, you know, they played well enough to win

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were not a world beater in any way, but you know, it is nice to kind of land after winning this first game and then you go, okay, Seattle's Seattle's not killing people, they still have weapons, still the Alvin Camara.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what do you think about next week's game against New Orleans?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, you talk about the west coast and those early starts, um, because I guess the world is not is not technically the east coast, but I mean it's in the east, um, eastern times on so it's, you know, at basically a, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: what is it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a 10 o'clock start here for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that will be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then road games are always tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I watched a good bit of that Cardinals game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was just kind of funky how, you know, it was it was a typical NFL game where it looked like the Cardinals

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, you look up and it's in the fourth quarter and the saints look like they're going to, you know, go in and you know, pull out this victory, but you know, they just didn't get it done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, I don't think that we are in a position even though we got this win and we are celebrating now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that we are

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[SPEAKER_01]: in a position, I didn't see anything that led me to believe that we're good enough to kind of just throw our jacks out on the field and think that we're gonna beat anybody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully we can put together another solid gang both office and deepens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I just, I, the one thing that I have always thought about Brock, because I mean, we have debated, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: his ability at nausea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, top five, top 10, whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But one of the things I've always thought about him, Yolo aside is that he

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[SPEAKER_01]: usually makes pretty good decisions.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it seemed like the thing that we had talked about himself and, you know, striving to do too much, it really seemed like that's what that was today.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it rather than just kind of taking what Seattle defense gave him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was really trying to force things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that was the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the genesis of, you know, pretty much all of his bad passes was just kind of doing too much.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, if we're going to be good, he just has to play within himself.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He doesn't, you know, and I don't know how the money and how that affects him, or makes him, you know, feel like if he's pressing or what, or he just needs to be a self.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he just does his thing, and just be yourself, it will be my advice to him, and you're enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just do things that you do well, just do those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to try to do any more than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to try to put the team on your back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that term game manager is kind of a pejorative.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's what most quarterbacks are is you like what the thing we see what it is, see it throw it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't try to do too much because, you know, bets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if he just does that, we'll be fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what we can't have is to turnovers in a possible third, we can't, he can't be throwing picks and that's what ends up happening when you try to do too much or make poor decisions and go places with the ball that you shouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the turnovers aside, I thought it was a really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He had a really good game going for a while there, even though it was, you know, the yardage wasn't quite there, but yeah, I'm looking for we should, I mean, what I saw from the saying, we should be able to go over and go in and be confused.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the the throw, if I if I think back about some of those throws, so the the first

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock, kind of instead of stepping into a throw, it's almost like he tried to put some touch on it or something and that was probably the wrong move because, and this is, you know, having Greg Olson on this broadcast was awesome because when I saw that he was, it was him and Joe Davis and I was like fantastic because Greg Olson is like my favorite guy on the Fox crew because I think he just explains things

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[SPEAKER_00]: In a way that your casual fan will understand it, but then he can also go into a little bit more detail.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he talked about this play that that brought to the first pick on so Christian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: has to pick up the blitz.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So by picking up the blitz, Christian kind of falls, and he doesn't get into the spot which would have made him the checkdown and Brock would have probably just checked down on that pass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what happens is the linebacker who's supposed to follow Christian, the linebacker sees that Christian is down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what does he do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: into the spot that Brock thinks that he has to throw and then there was a moment later in the game where he's got pretty ricky right at the pylon for a touchdown and he needs to zip it in there a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably needs to step into it a little bit more and he kind of flutters it out there and the defensive back at the last second is able to slap it away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if he steps into those throws, it's possible their completion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I don't know if there's a reason why he did not step into those throws the way that he probably needs to, I don't know if it's an arm thing or fish just like, oh, yeah, just I just made a bad decision.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, took it for granted that that he was open and I need to step into that thing, but those two scenarios.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think are like, you know, maybe more important for them to talk about then he just made a bad decision throwing in a triple coverage on that one because he didn't think anyone was open even though Brian Robinson was open in the flat, but he just he was just looking down field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I do wonder if he's kind of in his head a little bit about, you know, I cannot lose us these games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I need to make these right decisions and it's quite possible and also

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[SPEAKER_00]: You lose Kittle, that's your main dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jennings is hurt and Jennings, by the way, I thought Jennings looked really slow and it's quite possible that that calf thing is just bugging him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Still that calf thing may be more real than maybe we thought because I just thought he looked really slow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there are some times when he catches the ball and he's not a fast guy in general, but he catches the ball and if he can get his shoulder squared,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going down with the first hit and they kind of were able to manhandle him a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's something to keep an eye on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe it was the shoulder thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he just wasn't comfortable out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So anyways, I don't want to give Brock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, any excuses necessarily, but I just thought, you know, if he thought about those two throws he probably goes, okay, if I put a little bit more steam on those things, then we're fine and we're probably win this game running away, but he didn't, and then that's why this game was close as close as it was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's, uh, before we get out here, I did want to look at the rest of the NFC West.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, like we said, the Cardinals won and part of winning this first game is, you know, you got one on Seattle and now, you know, they got to come into to leave eyes to even up the score and and hopefully, you know, the 49ers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: feel like, you know, they can take care of business and leave eyes, but you want to beat these, these NFC West teams because as we predicted, we think that the, that the division is going to be pretty close all season long and the Rams, the Rams beat the Texans 149.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, in, uh, uh, I can't, uh, I didn't get to see any of this game either, but I can't imagine it was, uh, something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't like, uh, Buffalo in Baltimore late to the late night, which was a barn bird.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's all my gosh.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The, um, but you know, the Rams are a very smart football team, you know, they kept, they kept the the Texans offense and check and looks like Stafford did just enough to win the game probably in a very game managerie kind of way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the Rams are going to be there unless the injuries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, deplete them much like it could happen to the 49ers, but this isn't a Peter Schreger.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you were listening to Bill Simmons too, but Peter Schreger was putting over Jimmy G for, you know, just putting them over like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, okay, I get it, Pete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get it, but I know Jimmy, like you don't know Jimmy and I, you know, I don't know if you can hear Jimmy

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but that'll be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I can't imagine Ram's fans are going to be that comfortable with Jimmy G if he has to start any games with Matt Stafford possibly being hurt at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's something to keep an eye on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the Ram's are game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're very well coached.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a really good roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're a smart football team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to hang in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think they're going to, I think they're going to be competitive all season long.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was good to get one over Seattle for those same reasons, because Seattle's trying to rebuild this thing as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they have the saints.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything that you saw in any of these games where anything stood out of like,

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[SPEAKER_01]: was to, it was a really exciting, I really enjoy, especially the first window, not nothing really, actually all the really good games were in the AFC.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So these, those, those,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the one thing that is kind of 49er adjacent is that Mike McDaniel might be available to be a consultant by, you know, by thanksgiving because the dolphins did not look great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what's going on there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, I'm sure his seat is looking right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As apparently, obviously they didn't score until the fourth quarter, and then I guess Kyrie Kail is already out on the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, would you say something?

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[SPEAKER_01]: apparently he had a tantrum on the side line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's a week one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is a week one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, by the way, I wanted to say it was nice to see Debo take that little reverse or whatever that was to the house.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he had a good week coming a good first game, you know, he is playing for another contract.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am not surprised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I will not be surprised.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If he has an awesome season this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... and i saw the raiders got a win over the pats uh... another one that would look like a little bit of a of a rock fight uh... but that i think those teams are going to be fairly competitive they may be nine and eight competitive more than you know eleven and six or ten and seven competitive but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was actually looking at that box score because I was super interested in that game to see if, you know, if Pete would mean something, you know, how much does Pete mean with with with with the Raiders roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I was like, you know, Drake may everyone's looking for who's then, who's the new.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jaden and Drake may get throw a lot, but that was interesting too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so the Saints next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we were just crossing our fingers that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hamstring sounds bad to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if Kittle was the thing about the hamstring is it was like a non-contact engine, you know, like you said he would just out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was like he was blocking, kind of, you know, just kind of shielding the guy and he pulls up lane, which is always a bad sign is when it's not, you know, it's not like he got hit or anything, it just kind of gave on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So hopefully,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully he's okay because like you say those kind of things can, you know, can linger and can be more serious than, um, yeah, him and JJ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, our two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: ostensibly, you know, although I guess pretty Ricky would say he would throw his name in there are two top pass catchers in terms of proven productivity are kind of dinged up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like you said, but the thing about it with um JJ is that it's still shoulder, but I agree with you and your observation and he didn't look great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, to begin with in terms of his movement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hopefully we get new good news on both fronts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do wonder though because of the turf, you know, I think they're going to lean, because it's just such a long season now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to lean health.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think on both of those guys, but what it could mean

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[SPEAKER_00]: is, uh, Kendrick Boren is still unsigned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought they've talked about him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know M. V. S. I guess he technically played.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't see him really doing much that they had gauge on the field, but I don't, I don't think Gade did gauge have a catch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he had a catch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He didn't have a target.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, there's, there's, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a lot of opening, so whether it's more for Ricky or whether it's, you know, over having to overuse CMC, but then again now, you know, they're going to be on that turf.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and so you got to wonder about him as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So next week is I almost feel like already it's more about the injuries before it's even about the game so that that'll be I'm sure a talking point for the entire week with Kyle and the crew but hey they got the first one and they can

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they can kind of figure out what they need to do knowing that they're want to know because if they are Owen one going into the Seattle game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're probably thinking a little bit more urgently with some of these injuries, but maybe that allows them to kind of be a little bit safer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would man, you got to go for the goat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to go for everything to go to a note to start to get these wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you got to make a man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that is, that is so true.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So because we go Saints and then it's cardinals, that's the first home game and then it's jags, which is their second home game, and then ramies, I think is on a Monday night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you get the one out of the way and you get kind of an easy game in game two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it starts picking up a little bit so yeah, it is you definitely you know, you definitely want to come out of this, you know, is one game at a time, but you definitely want to start to an old you don't, yeah, you would hate to you'd hate to split with that law, you know, the loss of the Saints because I think when it's all said and done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they are going to be, you know, they'll be picking at the top of the draft and you just, it would be one of those games where you end up kicking yourself at the end of the season, you kind of let that one get away.

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