49ers Preseason: A Deep Dive into the Good, Bad, and Ugly vs. Broncos | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_03]: back on we want winners the very first preseason game is in the books and rod I don't know what you thought but three quarters of that game was pretty unwatchable but that first quarter was actually kind of fun there watching that football game not not awful not awful it was um yeah it was it was good you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: Matt look good for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and precisely until he didn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, it was, yeah, I'm sure we'll touch on both of, I'm sure one of us will touch on the good that was there in the first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it was, it got pretty bad though in the second half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, I'm not gonna lie.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't watch any of the fourth quarter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to be completely honest.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, fifth and third was, it was enough for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was, yeah, it was, I was actually, um, bunch of yada yada hat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yada yada happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was at dialysis yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And um, I got finished.

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[SPEAKER_01]: just as the third quarter was ending.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I had the option of either sitting in my car, you know, watching it on NFL plus on my phone or driving to get something to eat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I opted for the latter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was the better decision.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, see, this is really testing my fanhood because I could just sit here, hungry, and watch this in a watch, Taylor Mordecai, but you know, I'm not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to try and give you the good, the bad and the ugly for this game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it's almost like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to say the game snuck up on me because I kind of knew like I know that they had practiced against each other and I know, okay, that means that they're going to play.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But the way that they do preseason these days, the the Niners have the three games three preseason games.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So because when I was a kid, he used to be four and then I think this is an admission for that game, seventeen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And if we get game eighteen, then maybe they only have two preseason games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that the thing is that it's always been the revenue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I remember, you know, I was listening to somebody and they were talking about how back in the day, like when it was twelve games, there used to be six preseason games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't, you know, that's like a little before my time, but that's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's always been eighteen games, it seems like, you know, so depending, you know, as they have,

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[SPEAKER_01]: made the regular season longer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have just, they've chopped off preseason games, but they've been pretty consistent about getting those eighteen dates.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The difference, you know, you to just try and compare apples to apples between the Niners and the Broncos was a little bit hard based on what they did, because the Broncos were able to play some of their first stringers and the fourteen Niners just opted out of that and in some cases wouldn't have been able to because they had

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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of their first stringers were being done, and we'll get into the injuries and such.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So from an apples to apples comparison, it was sort of like nine or second stringers against some of the Broncos first stringers, and then they had a couple of back and forth, so as far as possessions were concerned.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then when the Niners had to put in their third stringers, that's kind of what all hell broke loose, including, and because just depth wise, that so many injuries already to the point of, I saw today, that they signed Jeff Wilson back in the in the in the red and gold.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know, I think people could sort of see why that you have Christian McCaffrey.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's coming back from this Achilles injury and who's behind him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Isaac Rendo.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Well, Isaac Rendo often injured last year already hurt this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Bringing back somebody who knows the playbook and probably suit up very soon if they need him to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so bringing him back because a mayor of Dula gets hurt during this game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's just like just a bunch of question marks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think with the depth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But in your games as well, Jordan James, and so let's get into some of the things that we liked.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, we'll each give something we liked something that was there and then something that was just downright ugly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I will say, I think the easiest one, and this is probably cheating.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Chase Lucas who got the start because up and stout was not playing he was somebody who they hold out he they held out late because of injury and you know not even really injury I think is probably more precaution than anything else but chase Lucas if you were watching and you were wondering who's that little dude that blitz and caused uh... was it stitom or bone nicks to get sit get throw the ball out of bounds and get safety

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, Stitham.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was Stitham.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, uh, you know, Robert Sala was like, be ready.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We may, we may be throwing a couple of blitzes at them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Chase Lucas came off the corner.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Stitham was like, I'm not going to get hit.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I will throw this thing out of bounds even though nobody is over there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we'll take the safety because it is preseason.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, but he was kind of all over the field and it was hard to not see him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I think he was a practice squadter last year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he, I don't know how much opportunity he's going to get, especially once their defensive backfield is solidified.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But again, lots of issues back there as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, we're not our green didn't play.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, no, almost none of their safety's played.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Luke has got an opportunity to show his stuff and he looked really good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And hopefully for him, it means, you know, that that there are some possibilities for him to be something on this roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean that it's it's a tricky thing because like you say a lot of those spot I mean you look at safety and I would imagine just based on not necessarily

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you could say, you know, with Mustafa kind of performance, but just with the draft capital that they've put out that brown obvious, I think the Mustafa and Brown would.

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[SPEAKER_01]: trying to be with ideally be their starters, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They say they like Jason Pinnock.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's another one, one of one of Solas, yes, guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody says he played well for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: At the jet, but when I looked at his tape this summer from the Giants last year, he's stuck kind of like right up same thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They both were not good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The last time we saw it in play like literally statistically pinnacle one of the worst safeties in the league last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but if you tell me that, you know, somehow the scheme is gonna, you know, fix it all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess you can tell me that Pinnock is a player same thing with Richie Grant and all these guys that they're kind of just out here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Seagull is a young guy, so, you know, and apparently he's good at special teams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, again, it's when you talk about how many they normally kept

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[SPEAKER_01]: can start counting these guys you know Lucas is going to have to knock somebody off of the roster and it was a good start for him this week because he really of everybody I think he flashed more so than anybody.

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[SPEAKER_03]: he may have to knock somebody off or they just knock themselves off because these guys are having trouble staying healthy you mentioned you mentioned seagull and he he looked good but he then he got dinged up on his knee it sounds like I don't know if it feels helmet to the knee or something but it sounds like it was a bone bruise more than an actual injury that they're worried about so hopefully he will not be out long but yeah

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, it was very easy to see Lucas all over the field and when he was when he was in the mix, it was actually kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But who's your who was the person on your good list?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I'm going to go with the Hulk.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Sebastian Vargas as Tim Green kept calling his mouth is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's what his name really is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tim Green called him like he called him Vargas like six times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But um, yeah, he kind of kind of flash, you know, he's a big guy and you know, he was active and that was, you know, him and then

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, Kalea Davis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know that either of those guys are going to like be starters, but yeah, there is a lot of room for deaf pieces and you know, just to have competent guys, um, rotating in and that's one of the things I've been calling for is like the last.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two or three years really, you know, we've been going to the scratch and dimpile, sign in veteran minimum guys, you know, for our depth, particularly on a defensive line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you need depth pieces, you know, and if you can get them on rookie contracts or develop them, you know, like this guy, he'll be with us for four years guaranteed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he can just,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's not just just, I mean, if you can be a depth piece, that's a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can come out of this draft, we had eleven draft picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You would expect if you could come out of this draft with two starters and two guys that you can reliably, who are rotation guys, that's a good draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, four players out of eleven isn't necessarily a great percentage, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know in today's salary cap sport you have to have guys on you know rookie deals and a quite quite a few of them and it was good to see and our Davis isn't really a rookie or even a young player really but he's been hurt so often that

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of lump him in with him because he's been around for, I think, three years now, but he hasn't really played, you know, I know like his first year, he missed completely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he was there last year and it gets, I get confused.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it was, this is his third year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, he looked good along, but Valdez was the one who really stood out to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, we need

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[SPEAKER_01]: those guys to be rotation players that's in the in the preseason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at guys that really flash because you're not going to get your front line guys out there, what you're looking for is guys who can be rotation, you know, that you're seeing like Lucas who's flew flashes and looks good, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In an ideal world in a regular season, he's not going to play sixty snaps, but he, if he's called on to play, you know, eight or ten, you know, he's somebody who looked like, you know, from yesterday, can come in and give you something, which is, you know, that's a, it's a valuable thing to have.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He vowed as Davis and Robert Beal Jr.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All had sacks in the game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: By the way, I didn't even mention this thought, but it was thirty to nine was the score.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, it was nine to zero in the first quarter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then the forty-nineers did nothing offensively for a rest of the game in the Broncos score thirty unanswered points.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The or anything positive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They did a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I did a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So you not remember.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You mentioned Tim Ryan.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so obviously Greg Papa, we should mention Tim Green, Tim Ryan, you're right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Sorry.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Greg Papa, um, he, uh, meant he, I think, can be our and him, uh, they, he, he, he, he, on Twitter wrote that, uh, he's dealing with cancer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so he's out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so Guy Haberman took the play by play and Tim Ryan took the, Tim Ryan on this is their, their color analyst, um, during the preseason and on the radio, of course.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Tim Ryan,

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[SPEAKER_03]: He, I don't know who, I don't know if he, if he and Gus Bradley or friends, it's very possible that he and Gus Bradley or friends.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Carter Bradley, Gus's son was the, he was the second quarterback in the game, but he's that he's in the running for the third string spot on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and Carter Bradley through some of the uh... silly is not the right word because there's guys running in wrong spots and stuff not everyone's on the same page but even in preseason like these were bad interceptions and him Ryan continued to say oh yeah but you know when they throw that ball when he throws that ball and show those wide receivers they hear the whizzing he throws it so hard and I'm like

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[SPEAKER_03]: great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He throws it so hard so that the other team can catch it like that doesn't do anything for us.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know it's part of the reason I'm not that big of a Tim Ryan fan because I think he's just like he's like a forty nine is hired gun like they they love his announcing I'm sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I was like man like what what did like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: who, you know, these other guys like Mordakai, he's like, man, I wish I had the end with, with Tim so that he could talk about me that glowingly what I play, you know, to play that poorly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's just funny because of who, to maybe that maybe for whatever reason, Tim Ryan did a little bit more studying on Carter, because he didn't know Carter that was it all these things that he had done some research on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we needed to talk him up, but yeah, I just think it's, I think it's odd when

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[SPEAKER_03]: the the guy who's doing the commentary just continues to speak so glowingly about a player who's doing really poorly like there were there was like one throw where I'm like okay like what you've been saying this whole time I got that makes sense and there was there was another one that was dropped but all these other films are just

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[SPEAKER_03]: all over the place thrown it to where the DB actually cuts on the ball and has a perfect is almost like the DB was the receiver there was a lot of that but Tim Ryan was at his best and it's it's why don't listen to their their radio I'd rather listen to the National Broadcasters because I don't like right I like Papa Papa's great but I'm not a big Ryan guy okay so I never I never heard guy but yeah it was it's so funny that if you're a bear you fan

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[SPEAKER_01]: for the longest time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I, as a Bay Area fan, Papa, I, you know, the forty-nineers are still like third in terms of who I think of when I think of Greg Papa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, but it was weird not hearing him on the broadcast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So obviously I hope he gets better, but it was strange, you know, like I say,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I still think of him as a warrior's or, oh, Raiders announcer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Before I think of the forty Niners and every time he says touchdown forty Niners, I'm expecting, I'm expecting him to mess up and say Raiders.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, but it's, you know, it's been, it's been years now and he is our guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, it was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't love listening to them either, but nevertheless, I hope he is well and I hope for him to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope for him to come back for me not to like, let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want him to come back in good health.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was actually surprised it wasn't fits though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was Habermint and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, that wasn't weird.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just assume fits is just always there when around.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, the so in the kind of there's some good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's some bad Jordan walkins.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He showed

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[SPEAKER_03]: some nice chemistry with with Mac Jones and he showed you know why they they drafted him obviously he had a fifty yard catchers really like I mean if you look at the offense it was probably the best play of the offensive day a fifty yard catch and run on the opening drive

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[SPEAKER_03]: He and Mac look good together.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But they were throwing him a lot of screens and such just trying to get him the football with some space to give him an opportunity to run.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Those plays didn't necessarily work as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But you could see them trying to get him involved so that he could get some good stuff on tape.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And thankfully, they had that, they had that nice play.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that night, that play brilliant.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The other stuff was like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they're trying to get him involved.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't really break anything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He didn't really make a whole lot of something out of nothing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I would say mostly positive for for Jordan Watkins, which think about Jordan.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, he looked good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was especially early on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, again, though, I had heard in, you know, you had to take it with a grand assault, but, you know, Tim Ryan, you know, had mentioned a couple of things like here were a couple of routes to Iran where he didn't give me on the sticks and, you know, he mentioned, you know, those are little things or the reasons why.

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[SPEAKER_01]: in a Kyle Shanning and often, so if you aren't, if you aren't, PTO or in those are the things that can be abuggable for younger receivers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's something to watch, but I thought he looked good and especially, again, on that, you know, he's got all the tools definitely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they need them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That is, you know, the fact that he, I obviously all of this stuff is in pencil when it comes to the depth chart, who knows what Kyle is thinking, just all that we know about rookie receivers in Kyle Shanahan.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that people consider him the third wide receiver on this team without BA and without Robinson, who they expect to be out, he's probably going to get suspended for, I don't know, a few games at least, three games probably.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that he is going to possibly open up in the depth chart as the third receiver is kind of crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It makes me think that there's somebody else out there that

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[SPEAKER_03]: They could possibly find, I don't know if, you know, when we get closer to cut day that there's someone that they kind of have in their in their head as if this person gets cut, maybe they have some sort of forty-nine or ties, you know, in some way that they're on the radar.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I just can, can you imagine Kyle Shanahan, you know, going into the season with this kid as the number three receiver?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't doubt based on the previous eight years here and I can't even imagine how short that leash would be if that was true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he literally, I would, he can't drop a place or miss a block because, you know, but.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if he's like the third one, and maybe that's how he gets to play is because he just kind of just hands will be just tied unless we saw a siding during the the Denver game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's a cut like trend share field and somebody who is wrong obviously with obvious ties to the forty nine years, but you mentioned around cut day, he might restuck

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[SPEAKER_03]: with with planning who is the who's the taller receiver that gone to New England a few years ago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm kidding more yeah I was he he was the one in my mind but I literally don't know what roster he's on right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know, like I said, I know he was in New England last year and I do not believe that he is there now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But and I'm just researching now about who are the best friends that are out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like he's still on New England.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Wow, okay, but he's, yeah, like, but it, it's somebody like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not, I'm not saying that he's going to get cut.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's somebody like that who you kind of wonder, someone who can quickly get the sort of like Wilson, like whatever the wide receiver, you know, comparison would be.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, to someone like Wilson who could just come in and they know him very well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who was on who was system adjacent you know somebody who I don't like somewhere like Miami or places where they're running the system right right so who's on your like a little bit of good little bit of okay list.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see we.

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[SPEAKER_01]: my good pretty much was the same as yours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, no, we didn't mention I thought the secondary defense was good, you know, in the fact that they, but got the secondary and got the safety held into a field goal going to punt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So those three

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[SPEAKER_01]: both three possessions where it was the second string out there was really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was good to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, it was interesting that, you know, most defensive coordinators kind of play it close to the best, you know, and our kind of vanilla, especially in the first preseason game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But clearly, Salah was Blitzin and he blitzed Lucas like three times.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I know Bill got

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[SPEAKER_01]: of blitz and what much on both of them came and B.O.

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[SPEAKER_01]: got picked up and Chase was like, left free.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So not only did they play well, but they were clearly scheme and I mean, that was kind of good to see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, the kind of reminded me of a little bit was

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[SPEAKER_03]: twenty eleven Jim Harbaugh's first season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Niners, I think, open up the preseason against the Saints and Greg Williams just blitz his Alex Smith like every single boy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now solid didn't do that, but that's what it kind of reminded me of, because that, because like you, I didn't expect it, because they don't really want to show their hand at all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Salah was just like, even Chase said it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He said Salah said it was going to happen and he's like, let it rip.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they did a bunch of times.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, that was actually fun to see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I do wonder how much gamesmanship there is in that like do the code.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, you know, they just practice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know if Shanahan was like, hey, you know, Sean heads up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We may throw some blitzes at you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have a question though.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What did you think about the rookie linebacker Nick Martin?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So rough start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You had a rough start.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of it, you know, that you kind of we kind of moved into my bed was the linebacker position was kind of it was rough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It didn't really have a great game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Tatum Batoon was kind of such.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of those guys who were in line for that spot next to Fred who played were, I don't think that anybody took a real step forward, I didn't think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that I think, and I think Martin of all of them has the runway to,

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[SPEAKER_01]: to really get planned time, because everybody keeps talking about how well do winners is playing, but then every time that they show, say an example of how he is playing well, it's always in the things that we know that he can do, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's blitzing well, he's covering well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Nobody's saying anything about his play in the run game, which is the glaring weakness,

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[SPEAKER_01]: in his game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if Nick Martin is to play, it would be on those first and second downs on run downs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It would seem what he didn't do great at that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, you know, we talk about, you know, in Ryan mentioned it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he mentioned it again with when he was talking to Fred that in the first free season games since they aren't

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[SPEAKER_01]: tackling in practice, tackling can be kind of spotty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it wasn't early for the Niners, you know, in Ryan mentioned it, they were tackling pretty well, you know, in the first quarter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it kind of fell apart for the rest of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I got Martin missed a few and that's a problem because that's if he's going to secure time That's what he needs to do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He needs to provide He needs to be the guy who's gonna step in there and really kind of be that kind of enforcer player because I just don't I don't expect players to be I expect you to be who they are I just don't think that's what winners is and I don't expect him to

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[SPEAKER_01]: Although, athletically, he kind of profiles, you can come out of the draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He talked about green love, but he just, I don't think he's coming aggressive in a standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't, I think that's an unfair comparison for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He and Winters are, to me, look like they're kind of the same player.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, Martin, Martin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but coming out of college that his reputation was to be a thumper.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I haven't seen it yet and I'm saying it that if he is going to make his mark early, he needs to be that he needs to be the guy who is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, jumping off the film in the run game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you could win a role like that, and saying, well, I was thinking, let's throw a lesser extent, we saw him a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not a rookie, but huff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I kind of think of him as a pastor.

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[SPEAKER_01]: ideal world from a forty nine standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like they we haven't seen it in a game because William Michael Williams did play but there's been a lot of talk about on past rushing down to him click kicking inside and huff coming in and I had said something earlier after they drafted Williams that you know in the best case scenario they kind of built an end where you know

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[SPEAKER_01]: will use plays on the first two downs and then half plays on third down to kind of make, you know, make up for, um, and it's, it's, we'll just figure things out as a past rusher if they could get some production out of love.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like you, you kind of,

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[SPEAKER_01]: use the best of their skills to kind of build one player and if they're able to kick Williams inside and he's been rushing they say he's been rushing to pass for good from the inside and you've got you know two

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[SPEAKER_01]: theoretically, good past wrestlers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm thinking that they could build a linebacker the same way with winners in Martin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But like you say, they both seem like kind of the same guy early on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It remains to be seen what's going to happen next to Fred.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm glad you brought up Williams because he, I saw tweet as, so I think it happened at the joint practice of the Broncos.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So there's a tweet that he's down and like people immediately were very nervous.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then, you know, a couple of minutes later, the, you know, then they were a little bit less nervous in Chanahan said, look like a hyper extended knee.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And at that moment, you know, I was like, oh God, like here we go, you know, starting the season with the bad injury, look again, thankfully it sounds like he's not gonna be out for too long.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I've heard the comparison, and I think it was Matt Barrow's who said,

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[SPEAKER_03]: they could try and use him on third down like an Eric Armstead where you slide him inside because he's taller and not as tall as Eric Armstead but you know he's long and that is an interesting idea but it's something to expect that out of him this early in his career is probably you know I think it could be something that he

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[SPEAKER_03]: maybe eventually projects to be able to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if he could do that this year, that would be really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I was talking to a friend of mine who played defensive line in college, and he talked about how, as a young player, rushing from the inside, it's not as, okay, not to say it's not difficult.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The past rush moves and you know, going against a guard, especially his eyes might be easier early on than dealing with tackles in the lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the explanation that I was given as to why if because this was a weakness coming because he didn't really rest a passer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: much or well at Georgia.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That just wasn't what he did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, again, as I've said, a hundred times this offseason to point that out is not me saying that he'll never be a past, pressure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But early on this offseason, people were making this ridiculous comparison between him and all this myth, which was just completely unfair to Williams because if you look at, you know, all this myth was a terror

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[SPEAKER_01]: at Missouri.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when he came to the forty-nineers, he was a terror there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it was, you know, again, this was not something that Williams showed at Georgia, but we don't expect or we shouldn't expect these rookies to come in as finished products.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're allowed to grow and, you know, it's crazy that if they're not,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know all pros after their rookie season how we can as fans can sometimes get down on them where you know it's okay for um it was reading an article on

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[SPEAKER_01]: on, you know, how breaking Williams is will will will is coming along.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this is year three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like a lot of times after if a guy hasn't popped after his rookie season, we kind of thrown away or, you know, write them off where.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is not at all uncommon if you look at the history of the NFL that it takes sometimes it just takes guys longer than it takes others.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One that I always inhale brain up on the internet is just he's Apollo is how he was hurt for like the first three years of his career and he talks about how, you know, he was shocked that they never gave up on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then, you know, it turns out

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't all pro and, you know, he's one of, you know, one of the most decorated players in forty nine or history.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just bring that up to say that, you know, when guys come into the league today, if we need to allow for the fact that maybe they aren't going to be, maybe they'll never be all pros, because I mean, that's that's high.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a high bar, but if they're not good now, that doesn't mean that they'll never be good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So the one, you know, the unfortunate thing about some of the injuries, especially with the receivers, is that you would like to see or at least I would like to see some of these young guys on the field to see who's going to take advantage of the opportunity because with the no brand in IU,

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[SPEAKER_03]: with no democracy's Robinson probably for the first three games and by the way for folks who don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he played no contest to a DUI sometime in the summer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And Addison from the Vikings had a similar issue in the NFL suspended him for three games.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think people assume that Robinson is going to get suspended for around that time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I would love to see a Jacob counting or a Ricky Pierce saw on the field just to see because I think, you know, fantasy wise people are expecting Pierce all to kind of be Brock parties go to.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think there's a little bit of comparison to how McConkey played last year, because they were drafted around the same area of the draft.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I would love to see Pierce all.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see how he looks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: People say he's faster than you think, but then other people say he struggles to with contact.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then we have Cowling who

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, they, we know that Kyle didn't really like him in his rookie season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And every time it seemed like they wanted to get him to do something, you know, it was like a bubble screen and then he would go long and it throw it out of bounds.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That was it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's always saw of him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The fact that he's got to miss this opportunity with the hamstring is not great for him because I think it's an opportunity after his spring that they thought that he had shown real signs of improvement.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like he really needs to get on that field.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would love to see Pierce all that you don't want to see too much of Pierce all because I think he showed enough at the end of last year where they they do believe he's going to be a player.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But there's so much opportunity that's why Watkins, you know, getting the ball as many times as he did, as he got it was kind of cool to see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So like, okay, they want to see these guys on the field.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm just, I'm just bummed that, you know, counting still just cannot get out there and show his stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's, uh, this is kind of a put up or shut up preseason for him, unfortunately.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, I,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And listening to all the national fantasy people just like you are and I get it from their standpoint.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There is a huge target, you know, share open with I you've not been there and with debugging and gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And who's going to feel that spot beyond the fact that I think that, you know, you know, we're in a fantasy league together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know how much I should be saying here, but even after CMC and George feel their bellies with targets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, you know, there's still going to be plenty of targets to go around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we haven't seen JJ.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't know at this point if this is, um, hold out or if he's injured.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so, well, you would still think that JJ and Ricky would both have plenty of targets here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And even still, if you factor those, then

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[SPEAKER_01]: There should still be targets for other players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And who those other players are going to be like you to your point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have no weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can only be left to guess.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, you mentioned JJ and I just assume that he's going to be back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But as we know in on this team and in the Bay Area, calf injuries.

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[SPEAKER_03]: often lead to some some really bad stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Kevin Durant's Achilles issue started as a as a calf injury.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think this is the second time JJ's had this calf thing happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So and this is, you know, how last last season, McAfrey's thing started supposedly as a calf injury.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've maybe I haven't even ordered as a cast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I shouldn't even, you know, take that for granted that he's going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So there may be even more possibilities for opportunity.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, but, you know, the one that we always fall back on is like the only constant as long as he stays healthy to me is George because he's just always there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And McAfrey, if McAfrey is

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[SPEAKER_03]: eighty percent of who he was two years ago he's still going to be in the mix and I hope he's even more than that so uh... okay now that so now if if we kind of lean towards some of the negative things that you saw uh... in your three quarters watching that game what what do you think

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We kind of, oh, well, we didn't talk about any of them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to leave my first one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I'll leave that to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's go with the office line.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the backups.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, Burford got called like two times a row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know, this wing tackle experiment is not going great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For Mr. Burford, it was, it was,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Left tackle is what I, you know, it was a chance excuse for him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So the, I think the first one, they were on a quick snap.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So he said that end, I forget his name, jumped it and timed it perfectly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But he said the second one, there were supposed to be a chip.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and it didn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Burford was expecting help and didn't get it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that screwed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then what was about the third time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was like, he's getting like three times in a row.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, that dude was, was eating his lunch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I guess that kind of leads to the second thing, I've got a third, but I'm really not gonna, I don't want to really crush Mac.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is this just the depth issue?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that why, you know, if we want it,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can make the case for, you know, they sign all of our tent pole players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And clearly the goal is to put, um, this is via Jordan Rodriguez and Mina Cymes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They both posited this in their breakdown of the, you know, C. West that the Rams and the forty-nineers and

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[SPEAKER_01]: specifically build their roster similarly and that they have tent pole players at key positions that they put in place and then the hope is that they can just fill out around those players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: field of good teams, like for the forty Niners and the Rams quarterback is important.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you got staffed in part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They really believe in those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got kiddo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got both.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Warner.

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[SPEAKER_01]: those and hopefully BA comes back and that's the Forty Niners Corps and then they and CMC and they hope that they can just fill in around those guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They stay healthy and they're able to get enough out of the supporting cast that they make that work.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it'll work great if all of those pieces stay together and then you can get some of these other guys to take good roles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_01]: step forward and take roles.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's great in the first twenty two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you can do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our problem is our depth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can and that's what you see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe in the preseason and that's what you're looking for is for how long.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How long is it before we just stink.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because that tells you how long, how many good players that you have beyond your starters.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we looks good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Our second string, we got some really promising players there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But once those guys came off the field, it became a shit show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: pretty quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all that means is our death is not, you know, it's not where it needs to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's not where we are where we were two years ago in terms of death.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, so it that continues to be a concern and willfully.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's for a lot of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was their first preseason game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I'm not trying to

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[SPEAKER_01]: over react because as we just discussed, a lot of the guys that we are hoping can take steps forward, did not even play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, guys who aren't currently expected to be starters, but who we would in an ideal world would kind of be some of these depth pieces on our second and third teams aren't even either

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[SPEAKER_01]: They did, but most of aren't, it wasn't that they didn't play because they were held out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They didn't play because they just aren't healthy enough to play, which it's, um, it's getting late early.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, because I mean, we're like a month away now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's, it's, um, it's like four weeks, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's so it's so it

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you get this whole thing about how long or how many guys are even going to play as we move on because the death has just become such a problem where they're just, you know, they're having a hard time having enough guys out there for practice, you know, so it's not even

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not even, you know, getting guys worked to see if they're going to make the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I at seeing where Kyle had said earlier this year that he prefers to have six wide receivers out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you've seen several times during this all season where they've had to cut other positions just to get the receiver number.

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[SPEAKER_01]: up to where, you know, and he says, you can run a practice with five, but you ideally have six, but it gets to a point with if you only have four, it really makes it difficult for you to even really run a full practice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and there's been several times where they, those numbers have gotten, you know, that low where, you know, they're

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[SPEAKER_01]: bringing in six guys trying to find somebody to just get out there and be a practice body.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Where's my guy to Rico and his man?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't get any room while I was watching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he?

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[SPEAKER_03]: If he did, I did not see him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's disappointing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm sure his dad is disappointed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Let me see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, it looks like, okay, if I believe this ESPN box score, he got one target.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's that's what his stats show is one target.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Number eighty three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: on your score.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, my, my bad.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I was kind of bust and Carter Bradley, but it's like he's a third straight.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're, they're, they're going for the third straight and quarterback job.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Tanner Mordakai Carter Bradley Carter Bradley obviously is the better arm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It was mostly, I was just mostly frustrated at Ryan for trying to make me think that there was something there that I was not watching this game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can't tell me that this kid is

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know the next coming of uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh... uh...

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, I think most people are probably watching him very closely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And maybe there was a little bit of adrenaline and it's his first chance and, you know, he was missing some things of, you know, getting taken a wrong angle or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I hope to see that that

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know improves and and he does kind of fit in a little bit better but he was really the only one for me and then the perfect thing was also stood out but then you know listening to Kyle either Kyle is trying to make us believe that this offensive line is not as bad as you and I think it is or like he's he's just that he just knows like he like he there there's something

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[SPEAKER_03]: uh... football wise that he believes it because he i've heard i heard him on uh... tim calcami show and he was kind of like frustrated by the bad reputation that his offensive line has and he thinks that they're a good group in that you know they're underrated and in this and that so

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, something something there for for them to deal with, but yeah, that was that was very that was the thing that kind of was highlighted, you know, there's like, oh, I got a circle that thing right there, okay, you got him twice in a row and birthed like almost in touch him either time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, so, but precincting game one

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure they're nice guys, but yeah, and I'm not, I try not to say anything or to be mean-spirited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just, you know, they just don't seem to be very good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I looking at the advanced stats for somebody like, Colton McKibitz, he was much better at the end of the season, and then what

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't forget who I think it was Dominique Foxworth who did the analysis and he was talking about how, you know, culture McKibitz is about to get paid and it doesn't really have anything to do with how good he is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just if you look at how bad the right tackles are in the league, you you you learn very quickly that where he is on the pecking order of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right tackles makes him like a fifteen to eighteen million dollar player, which is crazy to me, but apparently, right tackle is just a fairy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just that there are, you know, attended twelve teams for whom court to McKinvers would be an upgrade at right tackle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, would you stick who's the kid that went to Kansas City?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm Jayley Moore, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got about that same amount of money.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He got about fifteen million dollars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he was a backup here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's great for him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There's definitely a market inefficiency when it comes to the talent for that expected position.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And these guys are going to get paid.

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[SPEAKER_03]: because they can actually go through a whole season and finish it essentially, you know, if you can stand up at the end of seventeen games, you're showing value in that way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's kind of interesting the way that that's going to work.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So Niners play again next Saturday against the Raiders.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so we'll be back sometime after that game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then they have a game against the charges on the twenty-third after that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's two weeks until the opening season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll have to figure out our schedule around that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think the plan is we may go live stream.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We may not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In this case, we did not go live stream.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But we'll sort of figure out that that rhythm in how we want to do that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And during the season two, because there's going to be some some spots for me where I will not be able to go exactly live after the game is over like we like to do, but we'll figure all of that stuff out, but we're kind of back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: for the most part, which is awesome.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, football season is so short by comparison to the NBA and Major League Baseball.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So most of our time is kind of away.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then we're just like boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, boom, can second of weeks after game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it just kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it's just a little bit of a different schedule when it comes to the podcasting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll be back at some point next week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And as far as, oh, one of the things I was going to ask you about.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Are you going to watch this Dallas Cowboys Netflix documentary that comes out on I think it's the night teeth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's I forget how many episodes there are.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a bunch of episodes, but Netflix Cowboys Jerry Jones.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think Emmett's on it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Dionne's on it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: A bunch of all the old Cowboy heads are on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Have you heard about this documentary?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, I have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am.

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[SPEAKER_01]: a Bill Simmons difficulty and he has really been talking to them and I wasn't going to watch it, but he seems so excited about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I am probably going to watch it just because of Bill Simmons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so yes, I am as well pumping it up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's totally been pumping it up, which makes me wonder who's actually doing it because

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so the guy that Bill Simmons started thirty for thirty with Connor Shell.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know he's kind of still in that game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it makes me wonder if he's behind this Omaha has been doing a lot of stuff as well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So they, but yeah, I'm not, I'm going to make me sure who's who's the producer behind this one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, I even, it's kind of funny like

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know just as much about those early nineties cowboys teams as probably a lot of the cowboys fans just because they were our competitor.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so I think skip bailis had a book that could come out right around that time that I read and then Jeff Pearlman wrote a book called I think it's called boys will be boys or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I read that I love that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So this is right up my alley too, as far as just I just know so much about those teams and there will be a lot of nine or stuff in there, too, because of those games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Bye.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm sure we'll see the Jerry Rice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: fights, you know, before the NFC championship game and all that stuff and I'm sure we'll see Terrell Owens at the star and all that stuff so that'll be fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But yeah, if you are a fan of the docs and stuff so in a little bit over a week that will debut on Netflix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: For this have a little something next this this coming week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to try to get out to Raiders training camp.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just suppose they're supposed to be having an open practice.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with the Niners on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know which day it's going to be if it's it's supposed to be either Wednesday or Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, the Raiders are practicing both days, but I'm not sure which one is supposed to be the joint practice and I want to try to get out there for that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I I've been

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[SPEAKER_01]: thinking about going to the game, but tickets are crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So unless I can get some to donate, I'm probably not going to pay that much for a preseason game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm back in Vegas, though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, I've got I've got a lot of connections.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, if I do if I do go out there, I might do a little, um, my shoot you a little video and send it to you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, obviously if this is something that that you can use.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I'm glad we're back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, we're back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is going to be a blessing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think we are both a little bit more on the weary side about the team and whether or not this last place schedule and this and that like it's it's interesting to see the national media.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I always lean local because the local covers a team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So so closely with the national media does give you kind of like this big picture.

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[SPEAKER_03]: and it's almost like every every prognosticator sort of feels like if the diners don't win ten games like

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, then they're maybe they are trash.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I could almost like a given that they're going to win.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're going to go ten and seven.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm still a little bit weary about that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I want to see them actually on the field and I want to see how we're dealing with some of these injuries.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I already don't like the look of all these guys who are supposed to be contributors already missing stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So

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[SPEAKER_03]: But you know, we're always excited to talk about the team and the games and everything football is so perfect for us in that way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One, you get one game a week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You talk about it Monday through Saturday and then it's done on Sunday and you talk about it Sunday night and then you go move to the next one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's great in that way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: For this channel, Brad and I will be back with Thompson to Clark.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll be talking about

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[SPEAKER_03]: are sadly embarrassing San Francisco giants who've lost, I think, ten of eleven at home.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I went on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_03]: How do a great time is beautiful day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So sad watching baseball players try to hit a baseball and being unable to do so very well successfully.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then I think I think Brian and I will probably be back Thursday again with Falc's Valley, Valkyries won.

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[SPEAKER_03]: a big game as big of a game as you can with still like, you know, three weeks left in the season four weeks left in the season or whatever it is, but they beat the sparks and the sparks are right on their tails for that last playoff spot in the WME playoff race.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And so the vouchers play again on Monday and Wednesday, so Brian and I will be able to talk about

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[SPEAKER_03]: the three games in between the last time we recorded.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that is that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And we're back, like Rod said.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So for Rod, I am double G. We will see you next week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Peace out.