49ers Get Smoked By Rams: McVay Beats Shanahan & The Porous 49ers Defense | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_04]: to we want winners, Rod and I are here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Few hours after the game in which the 49ers kind of got shredded by the Rams.

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[SPEAKER_04]: A game in which I was there alive and Rod, I can't imagine the TV broadcast was too kind to the 49ers, so I'm kind of glad I didn't have to hear the call today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it was, you know, it got

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[SPEAKER_02]: late pretty early, you know how how they do in terms of trying to keep interest, but yeah, it was not it was it was pretty bad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like we talked a little bit before on air.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I rarely have like predictions are feeling, but me and my brother were watching the game and I was like, man, these dudes could get both raised because, you know, I

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've been talking to fans all week about, you know, and they keep referencing week five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't know, sometimes I get the feeling that our fan base doesn't really watch much football.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That team is way better than they were week five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, we are, we are, we just, you know, it's a lot of it is not due to anything,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I kind of had this was like a foreshadowing situation and it was um it was pretty rough to watch.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know we're going to talk a little bit about the Shanna Han and McVey head to head, Shanna still leads that head to head.

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[SPEAKER_04]: By the way though, McVey has the most important games.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was watching

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, being their live, you're like, okay, what's the vibe?

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[SPEAKER_04]: How do people feel?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And there were there were some rams fans there, but not a lot.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like I was actually surprised because, you know, you go to a giant's game and the giant's fans, you know, they feel like they they can make a lot of money selling tickets to Dodger fans for to go to Oregon.

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[SPEAKER_04]: but it at this at Levi's it was a sea of red so the 49er fans represented they were ready to go they were ready to explode at every possible opportunity and it was rare there were rare moments in this game for the fans to get too excited and as I'm watching it so obviously coin toss Niners when the coin toss

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[SPEAKER_04]: And they defer, like they always defer.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They want to play defense.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They let their defense set the tone.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Then they get the second half kickoff.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They hope to gain plan to where they can score, late in the first half, and then score again, and that's kind of a tempo changeer.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And for the first time in a long time, I had this thought, which was, maybe we should have taken the ball because by deferring what you're letting the Rams do is you're letting the Rams

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[SPEAKER_04]: just show how much better they are than you immediately and not to save the Niners took to kick off that they would have been you know that anything would have changed.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I am sure the game would have been very similar.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I thought like if you want to showcase or or if you want to find some opportunities to to maybe upset the Rams in this game, one of those ways would be possibly holding the football

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[SPEAKER_04]: getting a lead and scoring and making them have to play comeback football and so obviously didn't happen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is the Niners identity.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They always defer and the Rams went down the field as if it was seven on seven just passing league.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's what I like out there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And one of the things about being their live at the game that you can see is you can see a lot of the defensive backfield and their communications and what the movement does before the snap to the db's and then as the routes are being run you can see a lot of the confusion.

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[SPEAKER_04]: and there was a lot of confusion with the Niners Young defensive secondary because you were seeing routes where there were two guys in similar spaces and one was going one way and the one was going the other way and the 49ers defender thought that they were passing them off to the other guy and they really weren't, it was like their guy so there was lots of confusion there and just immediately they just went right down the field scored and I was like

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's my, that was what I feared was going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then the Niners, I wish Shanahan would have called plays with a little bit more urgency, because he had to have felt what I as a fan felt, which is if we don't do something that this game could get out of hand pretty quickly,

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[SPEAKER_04]: And there were multiple plays on third down that they called where I was like, man, that is not an urgent play call.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And as you saw, they could not run the ball for anything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Except for Brian Robinson had a couple of good runs, but Christian was just running into a pile of blue seemingly every single time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we'll talk about Mac, because I thought Mac played well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But

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[SPEAKER_04]: The difference in in Mac and Brock, I think we've mentioned many times with the differences in our eyes, but another thing that we haven't actually mentioned is there's really no fear on the other side that Mac's going to rip it down field, they were pretty comfortable really taking away the run and saying Mac Jones, you and your

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you're three and you're three number three receivers see if you guys can can beat us and the Niners couldn't like that they were able to, you know, they he was 33 of 39 or something.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So he did his job, but there was no fear by the Rams defense that they were going to hit anything over the top anything for big plays anything for you know.

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[SPEAKER_04]: crazy tempo changing gains, everything was just kind of in front.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, neither receivers made some good plays.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We've been talking about kiddo kiddo came to life today.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think he was eight for 94 or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Joann had

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[SPEAKER_04]: a drop, which was probably a pass interference.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He also had the unfortunate fumble, which just as it felt like the Niners were coming to life and then he fumbled and the Rams just took it down the field the other way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But he also had other than that he had had a good game.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So there were signs, but still, man, you look at Puka, you look at

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[SPEAKER_04]: Adams, and you go, okay, who on the Niners is even close to those guys right now?

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[SPEAKER_04]: And from a wide receiver perspective, nobody's even close.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like the best Niners are seever, Joanne Jennings is either the third or fourth.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Rams receiver, Kendrick Bourne, push that back, because Kendrick Bourne even make their team.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, yeah, discrepancies of talent on the field in full display.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And, you know, to give the nine or some credit a lot of this is just based on injury, but you don't have B.A.

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[SPEAKER_04]: you don't have pretty Ricky and you're kind of going out there going like, man, we have to kind of dominate the ball, control the game and from jump street.

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[SPEAKER_04]: they were playing catch up and there was just no way like that was the that was the worst set of of narrative that the 49ers could play in a game like that today was to get behind early and try and play catch up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's just no way they couldn't, they had to, it had to be the opposite.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They dominate the football,

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[SPEAKER_04]: they run 40 times, they win the time of possession, and they force the Rams to play come back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That which was kind of like that game earlier this season.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it just wasn't, it wasn't the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so I just thought that kind of watching from the beginning and seeing how it played out, this is probably the worst way that it could have started, and that it could have played out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like this is the way that the Rams are going to win and win big.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they did,

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[SPEAKER_02]: There are several things that can.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you say, the inability to run the ball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then this which flies in the face of, you know, our internet, faithful who are telling, you know, who just have this, this be in their bond and about how Brian Robinson should just be playing more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's like, well, see, he just, you know, five carries for 24 yards in the touchdown.

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[SPEAKER_02]: down three scores.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, all right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, at a certain point, the Rams are going to give you, if you want to run the ball, sure you're going to have it and you're going to take, you know, 78 minutes off the clock and you're still going to be down by, you know, it was just, it was so gamescript dependent and it was obvious that when they decided to stop the run,

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[SPEAKER_02]: to get, and it's interesting that you saw that, that's what I saw in terms of the rams, you know, kind of shield defense, is it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were several and Brady pointed them out on the broadcast, there were several opportunities for brought to their deep passes like a couple of deep overs to Robinson that brought that were there for brought that when you're down you mean you may not, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, when you're when you're down three scores, um, you got to rip and praise like you got to rip that, you know, there were there were a couple of them where, you know, Robinson was basically open, yeah, the market's Robinson night Brian Robinson deep down the field and, you know, brought took the shorter throw, which, you know, again, as the ram, if you're the Rams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You'll give that up because, you know, you've got a long way to go back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it was interesting that you could see that it, you know, brought to me, not some prop, but that just is not going to is not going to take those deep.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, throws and then the, the, the, the quandary with Mac, is that if you throw the ball with him 40 times, he's going to throw it to the other team, a couple of, he's going to give them opportunities to make plays.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's just that and I tell you how can I tell you how true you are about that.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So Niners are coming back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Obviously it's foredown territory firm from here on out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was saying that there was a play.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think there was a play where Kyle ran it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He thinks that they have third and fourth down because they're going forward on fourth down.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I said, but what he is not playing the percentage of is that Mac is due to throw pick, because the pressure on a fourth down pass is much bigger than a second down pass.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The pressure on a third and long is much bigger than a second down pass.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And what's going to happen is he is going to have to force something in, and it is going to be intercepted.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I was like, again, Shannon knows all of this stuff, but he's, you know, he's calling the game to Max's capacity, right?

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[SPEAKER_04]: He thinks Max is going to, this is what Max is going to do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to read this right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This is going to be open boom.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then Max is prone to make mistakes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Everybody is prone to make mistakes.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Stafford tried to throw us the ball one time.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I think Renardo Green just let it slip through his hands.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But that would have been a perfect opportunity for the 49ers to gain some momentum.

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[SPEAKER_04]: uh M.D.

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[SPEAKER_04]: said no penalty calls on the ramps today, hard going against 18 players.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There, there were a couple calls that I think 40 interference probably thought needed to go their way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But there was only one that I saw that I thought was kind of game-changing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There was a screen to Puka that he scored on and I forget who it was with the Niners

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[SPEAKER_04]: who was supposed to be there and an offensive lineman like two hands shoved him in the back out of the way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And then when they threw the screen to Puka, I forget who the tight end of the wide receiver was blocking.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's there blocking a good second before Puka catches the ball.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So those two miscalls on the same play, yeah, that is problematic, though who's to say that the Rams don't score on the very next play.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The rest of the stuff was kind of like, yeah, they're fine.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I could see some of that stuff where, you know, Joann was interfered with a couple of times on passes, but then Joann was also off sides.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's not a referees fault.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's a Joann problem.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, you know, there's there was a I think there was a I think that they ran out the play clock like that's not the referees fault there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, that I'll give the screen to Puka.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I think that should have been called back.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They should have had to to do that again.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But other than that, that's the only one that that was truly game changing and when you lose by.

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[SPEAKER_04]: What did they lose by 20 points or whatever it was?

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's hard to say that the referees were too big of a at fault.

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[SPEAKER_04]: 42 to 26, so you lost by 16 points to over two touchdowns.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's hard to blame the refs on that kind of game, but I get the frustration, of course.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's always going to be stuff there when there's some pretty bad miss calls, but I don't think that most of them really affected the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a tweet here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sorry.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I went away from it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't have attributions, but so I apologize.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Mac was 22 for 27 on passes, 1 to 7 yards today out of his 39 attempts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, kind of, and I did not have that stat I was watching as I was watching the game, but it was clear that he just isn't just not his game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's, it has worked for him, that he just kind of takes, you know, he's going to take the layups that the defense gives him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, that this was one of those games was just the game script dictated that you need

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're down two or three scores, you really don't have, you know, the Rams are going to take that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They'll give you that the, you know, you're matriculating as Hank Scram, you said, matriculating down field.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you're going to take, if you're going to take seven or eight minutes,

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[SPEAKER_02]: To get these points, we just know we we're going to score on you guys, you know, it's, we can't go back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have to get stops number one, which it was pretty clear, um, early that, and I kind of made that joke, you know, I've, I'm not going to lie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'd be trolling our fans, I'm like, I still don't, they don't look, they don't look at the game, you know, realistically.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's like, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Rams are going to be like Burger King a day and I haven't their way however they wanted if they Wanted to give it a run it if they want to pass it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're going to be able to pass it and there were a couple of times Pretty had a good game at a good call today There were several times where he's with the tellstrator is it there was no edge to be had on the outside You know, and he would be on outside runs

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[SPEAKER_02]: it was bad it was and again it's solid is a hell of a play caller and he made there were several plays that he defensive plays that he called that were excellent blitzes it's just you know he's really literally out there coaching with both hands tied behind his back in terms of

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[SPEAKER_02]: the personnel that he has out there, especially on the defensive line, you know, the young guys are just young and, you know, and then the guys that experienced are just just not very good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I mean, it's it's it's it's it's tough to watch him try to make chicken salad.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just because it's it's just hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be it's a rough

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[SPEAKER_02]: teams is good as the Rams.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, one thing about that though, the Niners didn't make a deal at the deadline.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And we were hoping that they were not going to, um, you know, give up a ton because they are not one player away.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But I do wonder like how much Sala was kind of like,

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, we need some depth and, you know, one of the other things you can see live is as you can see a lot of the the line play actually and you know, I was telling my son JJ I was like if the nine or defensive line could just stand up straight and not get pushed backwards and similarly if you haven't, but but if they could just stand up straight and not get pushed backwards.

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[SPEAKER_04]: you know, that that's a win at this point.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't even, they don't even need to push the off the, the Rams offensive line backwards.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They seem to stand them up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And it just was not happening.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you kind of wonder, if you're solid, you're like, hey, I don't, you know, maybe I don't need, I don't need an, an A or B plus, like give me a couple C pluses who have still have some juice.

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[SPEAKER_04]: and and that we don't have to to give up a lot for, but I don't know who is out there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It seemed like almost everybody who was halfway decent went for a bounty of a pick.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like what there were, I didn't see many like, oh, such and such went for a seventh draft pick.

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[SPEAKER_04]: It looks like it was a it was a seller's market, this deadline, which unfortunate for the 49ers because they didn't want to give up anybody, but you know,

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[SPEAKER_04]: I've ever almost so excited because Bryce Huff played and I was like fantastic at least maybe we'll see some pressure, but like you said outside of Blitz's, you know, there wasn't much like Matt Stafford was, you know, that dude, if he had a sandwich in his back pocket, he could have taken a couple bites before throwing the football like it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That's just what it was today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am when we as we talked about last week, I'm glad they didn't do anything because in which who's pretty transparent about how the market just got away from them and there were players that they were in on that, you know, you might be interested in giving a fourth or fifth, but now it's a second or third and then you just

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't be in the business and he's addressed this and I totally agree.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can't be given seconds and thirds for a game, Reynolds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You just, you, you, we, they're not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're the Eagles, that's one thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you, you know, feel like, you know, a guy can, you know, puts you over the top in terms of winning a championship, we aren't that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was looking at the standings and play off ramification.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Basically, right now, the Niners are, it's them and whoever are the two bottom teams in the NFC North are basically those three teams are playing for two spots.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Go on to run now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like to play the games on paper.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not that guy, but when you look at the next four games, I'm not going to say you write them in pin or pencil, but they are winnable games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are definitely winnable games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I get it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You want as a fan, you want to see your team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: strive to, you know, do the best they can.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And like you said, when you got a coach like Sala, if you just give him something, you know, but I just think that we would have felt awful in April if we had, you know, in that that's coal comfort today when you're trying to win games and be the best you can this season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I just really believe that for where this team is in terms of the talent disparity between the top teams and the conference, I just think you you like the young and I said this last week, I think you let the young players play you get them as much experience as you can and you try to do your best to win these games, but I don't think you

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[SPEAKER_02]: four-year cost control contracts for eight games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just don't agree with the notion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, and when you're talking about who are you going to get?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if you want to, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You could make the case that is worth it if you're going to resign it because that is also, you know, the calculus that has to be made is if you're going to go for a player of that caliber, he's young enough to kind of match with your core, which I guess is more of an NBA concept and NFL concept, but you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you have to think about that is he guy who is going to be here longer than the end of this season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then you make that deal, but you're not trading and we said this last week, not trading fourth and fifth round picks for the art and keys of the world.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's not doing that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just that those type of moves aren't going to move the needle enough

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[SPEAKER_02]: I get to April that I'm not I'm looking and saying shot sure wish I had that it brown pick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I sure wish I had that fourth round pick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I just, you know, you basically at this point and you're not going to rebuild your roster in November.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's just not how this works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you take your lumps.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You try to, you know, make some moves on the margins.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he's a he's literally got talent, you know, I was I was species of the move because, you know, he's played 1,500 reps and really doesn't have much to show for it, but when you're talking about a 6 round pick or 7th round pick or whatever it was a pick swap, I guess is what it was what it essentially came down to, you know, okay talent and kid take the shot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's fine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just wouldn't have been

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[SPEAKER_02]: in the market for giving up, you know, what those players started going for.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What, um, yeah, I'm trading too first for it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not trading too first for anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's this point.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know what, you know, maybe that's why they got out ahead of it, you know, a week earlier, whatever, because they kind of knew,

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[SPEAKER_04]: that when when the clock was coming down to it like when deadline day was that they they probably probably figured that the sellers were it was a seller's market so they probably tried to get out ahead of that early which was probably out your smart but I want to shout out the chat because we have Rams fans and C. Hawks fans in the chat right now and I love it like

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, MDs, he, he's holding it down for a, he's holding it down for four down or fans, but I do not, I don't hate on other fans coming into a specific podcast because how do you, how do you know about these other teams?

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[SPEAKER_04]: Well, you listen to people talk about those teams.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so shout out to, um,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Let me go through some shout out to six, two, three, three, six, six, six.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Shout out to Yeser of Fim, who I think he's a Seahawks guy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the only one here who's kind of a little talking out of class here.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Jim Everett the great.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Now, he's kind of trolling us a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Chris.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Jim, Jim Everett was many things.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if I would label Jim Crayne, but hey, if you're, if you're ever, I, all good.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I just remember whenever it fell down and fantamely sacked himself because he was, you know, one end of what's done.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But, um,

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, I love the chat because it just tells you that these games are more meaningful than regular games.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, 49ers against Texans like that game infuriated me, but outside of the 49ers and outside of Texans who really cares at Rams and 49ers is still a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_04]: The other thing, Jim Emirates kind of troll and Levi's, there was a guy who was sitting a few rows in ahead of us.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he was Ram's fan.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he was he was just trolling all game long.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I found it funny because

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, the Rams don't really have a home stadium because, you know, they have a home stadium, but it's mostly fans of the other team, you know, who are there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And the Niners are historically, like, very, they feel very welcome in that stadium, because the Iron Friends travel.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So the Rams fans did not travel to,

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[SPEAKER_04]: uh, Levi's by the way, but for those who did, I'm sure they, they got a kick out of that because they're so used to it on the other side where the Niners fans are out there and droves and, and when in the game, but anyways, I, I, I, I'm down for it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I do not mind the, uh, the seahawks and the, and the Rams fans getting on us a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We are, we are true.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, we're not, we're not raw raw cheerleading 49er fans.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like, we want them to win, but

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[SPEAKER_04]: there's a really realistic aspect to what we do as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I respect it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I respect it, you know, that's how, like you say, how do you learn about the other teams, if you're not going to, you know, brave their territory and go in there and see what's going on in nine on land.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, I appreciate that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Yeah, no, I love it.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, one of the things, and I was going back, I want to go back to the Shanna

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[SPEAKER_04]: I don't know if this meant anything.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't know if you caught any of this, but outside of one time, I think, at least as far as I can remember, because you know, as the game was getting away from us, we weren't super paying attention to all the intricacies because the game was done.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But the Ram's kicker was not trying to, on kickoff, she was not trying to position the ball in any way.

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[SPEAKER_04]: This dude was trying to kick it through the other uprights.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you know what that told me, and I don't know if this is really what it was.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But it was almost like McVay telling Shanahan, like,

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[SPEAKER_04]: year on thirty five go for it like here's a gift like we don't we were not messing with this thing like we were up twenty one zero so be it hit you know show us like almost like did not I don't know if it's disrespectful or if it was gamesmanship I don't know maybe the rams just do this maybe they don't really care about the kickoff because I think their special teams are one of the worst in in the league so maybe that it's just like a

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[SPEAKER_04]: you know that that is how they they do it so they don't have to actually cover but i was like oh my gosh i wonder if he's baiting or if this is gamesmanship in any way and then uh there were there were other moments in the game where

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[SPEAKER_04]: I was like, yeah, they're doing this play on third down, which isn't safe, because they just know they're going forward on fourth down anyways, they just head there to take their two shots and they feel very comfortable with this 49ers defense.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And that is the thing that probably you're feeling shanahan, but shanahan probably knew it was coming because he would do the same thing.

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[SPEAKER_04]: on the other side, but I just like that, you know, that gamesmanship that these dudes have because they're their buddies, but they're super competitive, and they want to kill each other more than they want to kill some of these other teams.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But did you sense any like McVey kind of trying to come into Shanna hands house and, you know, shove it up his rear end kind of moments?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They were super disrespectful, I thought, in terms of just like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you pointed out in terms of they not really have to hold a lot of respect for what they were going to be able to do offensively versus them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it was like it was really, really frustrating to watch Matthew Stafford just kind of carve us up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I mean, there were there was a stretch there

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[SPEAKER_02]: where they had a stretch where they didn't really do anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it didn't have anything to do with us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They missed some plays.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And they were there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They just, he just flattened this them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just, it was very disheartening.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was clear that there was really nothing we were gonna be able to, we weren't gonna be able to give much resistance to them defensively.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just, it's a, it's a talent gap at this point.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And there, there, they are a really good football team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's, I hate that because, you know, I don't really like them, you know, it's not anything.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You didn't really have any, you talk about a rival race.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just, I've grown up my entire life, you know, same old, sorry, SRAM, my generation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: it, you know, it kind of hurts my soul, you know what, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_04]: It's also McVay didn't do.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We could have got the welcome home, Jimmy G. And Jimmy didn't even get a snap today.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're up.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They're killing us and Jim, Jim Garoppolo could have been in there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Could have got a little bit of uh uh I think the fans would have welcomed him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They wouldn't have booed Jimmy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And yeah, he didn't even get that moment.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Staffers like, nope, not even giving you guys the Jimmy G. Moments.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, we could have thanked Jimmy for the good times.

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[SPEAKER_04]: No, man, that was that was too bad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: the uh... one of the other things and you know where i'm not i don't want to hang out too much and like the exes knows this game because that's really what is not what the game was about it was about uh... the island issue on both sides but uh... i i also sort of you know you could see who they were targeting on on the niner's um... getting lots of safeties in in coverage they were definitely targeting the safeties in coverage

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[SPEAKER_04]: They were just like, okay, who is Luke Gifford on and we're just throwing the football that way?

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[SPEAKER_04]: There was one time where he actually

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[SPEAKER_04]: he didn't really break it up but he defended it but you can tell he was like scared out of his mind because I don't even think he turned around to look at the past.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like it was just it was I felt really bad for that because obviously like that's you know he's not out there to to cover but he's not it's not like he was on a wider sea or he was like gonna tie it in and it kind of I saw the point made in I think it was Matt Burroughs who said you know at what point does

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[SPEAKER_04]: Nick Martin like need to get on the field because obviously part of the reason that they signed him or that they drafted him is because he's a really good athlete and he's really fast.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And maybe it is throwing him out to the wolves at this point against, you know, one of the best quarterbacks out there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm sure I'm sure he would have also been a target, but I would

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[SPEAKER_04]: because Luke Gifford isn't defending that play anytime, like he, this is not, it's just not happening.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you might as well give the young guy some reps, but you kind of wondered, like, what does it take to get that guy on the field?

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[SPEAKER_04]: What is he not doing in practice?

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, what is he not giving them as far as, you know, whatever that they, they want to see from him to give him some stats.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Cause it's not, you watch Luke Gifford and you're like,

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[SPEAKER_04]: Why is this dude play and you're not saying like, oh, you know, at least when you watch Tate and Bethune, you see Some of the stuff that he's doing like I don't I don't know that I've seen Luke Gifford make a play all year long where I was like dang that was a really good play Yeah, I

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[SPEAKER_02]: They had talked about, and I don't even know if that ended up happening, I don't see him in the box where they were, it was too a lesser extent, it's the same thing with Valdas, you know, we don't, our defense of violence kind of trash why isn't, you know, he was like a cessation during the preseason and, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, again, I don't know what's happening in, you know, day to day, week to week in terms of preparation and being ready out there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, this is, I don't know, I guess it's difficult because we are still a competitive football team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's not like you can just,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, empty the bench and let these do, you know, let them out there and play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's one of those situations where, again, I don't even know if either of those are either of those guys or even active today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But this would be a scenario where you get those guys reps. Because, you know, and I imagine a coach is a fine line that you're coaching to play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It became pretty clear, pretty early, that we were never, we were never even really playing for a tie at any point, let alone, you know, driving to, you know, to go ahead, it was, it was really an uphill battle battle all game and at a certain point, I think,

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[SPEAKER_02]: you can have to get those guys, especially those two in particular because they are players at positions of need.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to know what we have at linebacker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We need to know who is our people who we can count on on the defensive line.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As we

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[SPEAKER_02]: craft capital and free agent capital on rebuilding that line again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: it would be nice to know who you have that you can count on as at least even rotational players I would think but so it's interesting as we move forward and I don't again I don't like to say the schedule light ends up but there are spots here where you could get these guys in to play to see

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[SPEAKER_02]: encouraging.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, it would be interesting to see what it would look like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Same with Martin, what it looks like against real and air quotes and FL players.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully we get to that point at some point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CJ West flashed a little bit and then you know there are guys there like Collier Davis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a

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[SPEAKER_00]: a good rotational player.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You don't want these guys being the ones who were taking the bulk of your reps, but they're their guys, they're that can, that are, you know, Bryce Huff is a for what he does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's a, it was, it was interesting that he, he only, he had three quarter

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[SPEAKER_02]: with us at all really when there wasn't some sort of all out blitz being called.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah again, it's just it's frustrating to to not see what these guys have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, Nick Barton was somebody who was, you know, for what he was was pretty badly who.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I just don't I'm I wonder what the 49

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[SPEAKER_02]: think like you say that they feel and Luke Gifford is a better option than he is.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you know, the 49er quarterback hits is an interesting stat because if you look at just that metric, you would think, oh, wow, like maybe the past, maybe there was some past rush there, but what that was was Matt Stafford,

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[SPEAKER_04]: letting those plays develop and not really being too worried about getting sat because he knew the time that he had to throw and and he was taking you know he took a few but he's a big dude also like not not not that he's you know when he sees

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[SPEAKER_04]: defensive back coming in on a blitz.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's probably not too scared.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Um, and he knows that he's he's he knows that if the other team is blitzing That just means that there's an option for him to go with the football and that's not like he was taking those hits

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[SPEAKER_02]: throwing check-downs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was looking to, you know, he was looking for it all.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, um, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, that's the trade-off that he was playing in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, it was like, what I said,

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[SPEAKER_02]: going into the game, that's the the danger of blitzing a guy like masked effort is it he's seen it all twice three times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So there's nothing that you're you're not going to he's got all the answers to the test.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was that was what Brady kept saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: is it, you know, when you blitz him, he knows exactly what he's going to do.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's going to you're giving, especially when you're throwing those defensive black blitzes at him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That means that there's somebody else streaking down the field.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's the guy he's trying to find.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you know, the other thing about that is,

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[SPEAKER_04]: and again, this is not shade at Mac Jones, but that is the difference in their quarterback play is Stafford holding on to the ball waiting for the bigger place to develop and Mac getting rid of the ball pretty quickly Mac himself almost

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[SPEAKER_04]: did a phantom sack like he like there was a play where it was falling to his left I still can't figure out why and I think he won hop somebody but he literally fell down with nobody tackling him which I thought was it was interesting and may just been you know the students got some bad knees maybe his knee locked up or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so the different, you know, like, is the difference between staff or just kind of trying to take what he wants and act, taking what the defense gives and that that that makes all the difference.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, all right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So next week, it's an all NFC West.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, you don't want to take them lightly.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There won't be any Kyler, which I think, you know, you're probably happy with, I know I'm happy about them.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Kyler can, for whatever reason, we don't play well against him.

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[SPEAKER_04]: But then, and since we have some Rams and Seahawks fans in the chat, it is the first time this season that the Rams and the Seahawks get together.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So it is in LA, but like we said, it doesn't really mean anything, because it's all dependent on the,

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[SPEAKER_04]: how many of the other teams fans actually can make the trip to LA, but at this point Obviously the Niners are third I would say behind both of those teams there.

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[SPEAKER_04]: There's a clear talent drop-up with these injuries for the 49ers If the Niners are not injured and you go mono-emono, I think they stack up pretty well with both of those teams But as the Niners are injured, it is not the case

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[SPEAKER_04]: But how do you have the rams and the seahawks stacking up?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I'm seeing a lot of chest puffed out with the seahawks fans these days and you know, maybe they don't know that, you know, come December in January that that, you know, Sammy Darnell kind of turns into a pumpkin, but

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, there is a faith, there is a, there is a, um, a confidence with Seahawks fans right now, and, um, you know, the Rams have kind of been good, you know, for a while now.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So Seahawks not as good, but this year they have a really good football team.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Who do you think has the better football team at this point?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I am a, I, I, I agree with you about same-darnal.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ultimately, I believe he's just, he's the guy he's always been, but I am a real big believer in Mike McDonald and his defense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They are, they are really, really good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And kind of like where we found ourselves with, with Darnell last year, Smith and Jigba is,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I really, really good receiver.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's got the best numbers of any receiver in football.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like his yardage is so far ahead of like the next two players.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's like, you know, it's kind of like when Jerry Rice would lead the league in receiving yardage and like the next player behind him is like 300 yards less.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Like that's the kind of year Smith and Jigba is having.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, and it's one of those things where like last year

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Sam Darnall, if you're throwing a Justin Jefferson, you know, if you in I don't say this lightly as a LSU tiger fan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, I would put in jig, but this year right up there with Chase and Jefferson in terms of those guys were, I mean, actually the number in the numbers back it up, you just feed him the ball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, that was that one game that the, um, before I go, that was what he did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he threw Chase the ball 23 times, which is, you know, that's like high school stuff,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Seahawks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he's been very good this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They got she feed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't what they would see that configuration today because obviously I was watching our game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I didn't get I didn't get to watch not a second of the cardinals.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Seahawks, but I'll watch it tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I definitely just own the defensive from the defensive standpoint, and the way they're moving, I would have to give the slight nod to the Seahawks right now, but the Rams are for real, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They, I can't wait to watch that game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do we play tomorrow?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're also going to be another one where we're all kind of playing at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I can't wait to So I'll probably end up watching that game that See you off the game, you know after you know the date and the day after, but yeah That's gonna be two weeks of all NFC West.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's pretty cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I can't recall that happening

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, it, you know, I guess maybe because it just didn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We, you know, it wasn't a part of my consciousness the way it is this this season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, I, you know, the Kobe percent had been playing pretty well with the Cardinals, you know, they kind of got, you know, and I don't mean, I didn't even see how that game ended up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know they were up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: be a get one point thirty thirty eight to seven or something like that pretty early I don't even know if you know the cardinals did anything to to like make it close or if it was just an in the ass kicking all the way through uh... to get it yet they did really to be so that is that that's the scores are

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, is that what is it for or, or, yeah, we're, we're filming 86.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So 44.

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[SPEAKER_02]: 22.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So both the, that was actually the same score as Detroit Washington, too.

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[SPEAKER_04]: 44 20.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I knew I saw that somewhere else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, I think you were 100% right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a, you know, a clear demarcation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: at the top of the NFC, and as much as I would love the Niners to be in that mix, I just don't think they are in the same class as those two teams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But as we discussed earlier in the podcast, I don't think they need to be to make the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, as we know, I guess not so much in the NFL.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But, you know, once you get into the tournament, who knows, and you never know how those teams above you, how they are going to, you know, make it into the tournament in terms of, you know, we're dealing with injuries now, you don't never, you never waste that on anybody, but who knows, once you get in the playoffs, you never know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: how those teams are going to be fixed for, you know, we saw it last year with Detroit, that, you know, they had that Guardi record, you know, like 14 and 2, but by the time they got to the playoff, they were just a mash unit, you know, they, you know, you get to a point where you get so many injuries that it's just hard to, you know, again, I'm not wishing that on anybody,

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[SPEAKER_02]: We just continue to get better and that by the time we get to the playoff, we are as healthy as we've been all season and we're playing our best football and.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, at that point, you just take your swings and who knows what happens.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, you know, as a fan, I would love my rational self doesn't allow me to dream about us like playing at Levi in February because I just don't think we are, we're just, we're just not that good a team, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who knows?

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[SPEAKER_04]: I mean, you know, you could stay to the ramp to the ramps fans who who are watching.

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[SPEAKER_04]: They know exactly what you're talking about because who played Philly in the playoffs better than they did last year.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And I don't think man that they thought it was necessarily their year last year, but they they played that game.

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[SPEAKER_04]: That was a fantastic football game and the anymore minutes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, they gave that Eagles everything, they could, you know, they got out of there a lot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They survived that game Eagles did, so yeah, it's that that would be, you know, that we're way, way down the road.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But that is what I'm hoping for as we just, we just continue to try to get better and get healthy and because I just think that at this point, it's,

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're, you know, unless we just absolutely shit the bed or knock on wood, somebody else gets injured on the offense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're going to be there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think we should just willfully, we are getting better and we're peaking once we get there is my hope.

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[SPEAKER_04]: about the schedule because the Niners do not play the seahawks until the very last last game of the season.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And they played them in the opener.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, you know, they open and then they close with the same team.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So that's that's pretty interesting.

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[SPEAKER_04]: You know, just to go back to the stat I was mentioning about Smith and Juba.

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[SPEAKER_04]: from a yard's per game perspective.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He is so head and shoulders above everybody else.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He averages 118.5 yards per game.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Second is one Pugan Akua with 101.6 and then you get to chase at 92 and then it goes all the way down to 84.9 and that's George Pickins and then they they have a stat called big plays which is I think any any plays over 20 yards and Smith and Jigua hadn't shoulders of everybody with 17 and the next highest as George Pickins with 12 so he is having

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[SPEAKER_04]: And actually, Devante Adams leads the NFL in receiving touchdowns with eight.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So he's, yeah, he got one today against us.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So, all right, so we are, yeah, wrap this, go ahead where we can say.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was just going to come in on how how he cooked my man Mustafa on that out loud.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was that was that was he was over match.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't have anything about substance to say.

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[SPEAKER_04]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So also just wanted to shout out Captain Niner who was holding it down with MDs in the chat amongst these very happy Ram and Seahawks fans.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And you should be happy.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Your teams are really good football teams.

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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, so that's gonna be it for us for us.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So we'll be back next week after the Niners and Cardinals and we'll probably be talking a little bit about that Rams and Seahawks game as well.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So love to see all the folks in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Thank you, Rod, for hanging out.

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[SPEAKER_04]: By the way, Rod, my son, who, because I went to the game with both of my, my boys and JJ said,

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[SPEAKER_04]: That, you know, he's got his commute in the morning.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's going to listen to this show.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he said that he really enjoys you specifically and thinks you really know your stuff.

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[SPEAKER_04]: So you got a nice little shot out from my youngest.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And he's.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He's a listener, so he likes, he likes Brad Knight together as well on Thompson Clark.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He likes Brad.

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[SPEAKER_04]: He likes you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: And so he didn't say anything about me, but, oh well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm just, I'm just, you guys have, you guys have, between the game, we two, you guys are, and then your podcast, you know, I'm kind of a, I'm like a giant fan now on the low.

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[SPEAKER_02]: or the East Bay guy that's kind of hard to admit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_04]: All right, thank you to everybody.

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[SPEAKER_04]: We'll see you next week for Rod.

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[SPEAKER_04]: I am double G, see you when we see you.

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[SPEAKER_04]: Peace out.