Warriors at .500: Seth Curry Debut, Jocyte to Project B! Possible Valkyries Protections! | Golden State Hoop

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to Golden State hoop, we were away last week, and there's so much stuff to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen, well, you've seen it because I've sent it to you, but all of the WNBA stuff

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[SPEAKER_01]: who been in Sabrina from the athletic chose to protect and I'll see if you agree or not with their protections for the upcoming expansion draft the CBA of course there's a new extension and then in warriors land it is I don't know there's like staring at 500 like for the rest of the year like the

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[SPEAKER_01]: is that a word like right now they're in the eighth spot for the playoff right it's still early but you know I was like oh yeah you know they're they're gonna sit around 46 to 48 wins and maybe they still will they have this they have this willingness to kind of do well when they need to do well but man they are dead average right now so we'll talk about that

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about some other NBA news, too, because there's some Yannis news, there's some Chris Paul news, more Zion news, unfortunately, for Zion.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll hit all of that stuff up today, and let's start out with our discussion on the Golden State Warriors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do the Warriors do without Steph?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I was having this question, I just just conversation with your brother last night and he was like, well, who is Moses Moody on this team?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I said, well, is it with staff or without staff?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because the Moses Moody with staff gets shots in rhythm is a three point shooter and has opportunities to make plays and the Moses Moody without staff,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It looks like he's slow as molasses can't get his own shot off and I didn't even know if he played 10 minutes yesterday was it was really bad, but it made me think like when stuff doesn't play can't can they do things to compete because they are so specifically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that they are so they're created specifically in the mindset of him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so then when he's not there, it's almost like they don't really know what to do offensive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, yeah, I mean, it makes a little bit of sense given that the offense is, you know, it's four stuff, all the off-ball movement.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's because you have to worry about a guy past the three-point line that no other team really has.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it makes sense when he goes out that

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some of the stuff they do doesn't work because you don't have to worry about someone, you know, from past three point line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's probably easier to stop, but yeah, Moses's flaws get probably exposed more when steps missing steps able to help hide some of the slowness that he has, you know, the, and then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: feel like the guys who kind of are able to make it look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: decent when he's gone or people who are kind of able to do something with the ball in their hands.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pajemski looks like he had a relatively good game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To be honest, I only finished about half a last night's game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I heard that I actually had a ticket to last night's game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I sold it because we were supposed to go with some friends and then ended up not working out and I was like, well, shoot, I just bought this ticket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's see if I could sell it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a singular ticket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was able to sell it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You get your money back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's one of those reek of buy like a $30 warriors ticket doesn't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They like it was one of those deals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I bought a $30 warriors ticket and I was worried that I wouldn't be able to sell it because I was buying like a deal, but then they let me sell it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I was like, I don't even care about making money.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I just want to make my $30 back and someone bought it within like seconds, but people who are able to do something on the ball in their hands or people who

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're roles on the team one steps.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's to be like, cutter, like GP2 kind of just like hangs out around the rim and is able to just like get these inside passes and we'll richer to kind of does a little bit of that too, but you know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then oddly, GS, GSP GP2 has his two best games of the season with Steph non there last night and then against the pelicans where he was awesome bull nights.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I mean, this, I mean, I kind of feel like it's a little like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I know Steph's older and there's going to be more games without him than they're ever were before, you know, because he's getting older and you might need to miss some games and there's going to be some injuries that come that maybe don't happen when he's younger, um, post all the ankle stuff, but like, I mean, this seems nothing without him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have no shot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess I still have a little bit of optimism, you know, around that I think I had like higher optimism of course going into the season, but now we're floating around 500 and it's like, okay, can you still be that 4849 wind team, I think, you know, talked about it on a podcast yesterday on the we did a bam show yesterday, but it's just.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, all that you guys you guys actually posted and then my co-host forgot to tell me that my mic wasn't on it just didn't use his ears.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess it's so different to the mic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I mean, I think there is still a little something with the heavy schedule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it's going to even out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So how do they play once it evens out?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if you look back on the year, they have one some games where you're like, oh, is this team, you know, like you said,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, they're just like kind of wake up and unwind a tough game, um, but then, you know, they lose some bad ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I have some examples, of course, like that Lakers game, the Lakers look like a really good team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even when LeBron wasn't there, they looked really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know it was the first game of the season, but it kind of felt like the warriors did not see them as a threat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like they kind of handled business pretty easily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the second game of the season you go to over time against Denver, Denver's the number two or number three team in the west right now or something like that, like kind of feels like that's a game that they wouldn't have won in previous seasons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: A game that goes to over time against Yoke, which is kind of put us put us away in a lot of games since that playoff series in 2021, 2022.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, you know, you go throughout the season, then you have some bad losses, Milwaukee, Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you have those two furs wins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just like this team can really get it done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, of course, some more bad losses, and what does that lead you?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It leaves you 500.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just, you win games that, you know, maybe it feels like you shouldn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You lose games that you should win, and then you just even out to 500.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm just wondering, you know, Melton coming back like Drake, I listen to plus minus and I know that there was a conversation with T.K.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Jrayman, where Jrayman's like, I don't want to expect much for Melton, because I felt like we did that with Dennis Schroeder last year and that kind of weighed on him heavily and he, you know, then you see what ends up happening with Dennis, we put too much on him, he doesn't perform, he kind of gets blamed and then he's off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He gets shipped off to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: ticket ticket has a little bit of drama from shooter because he thought shooter was going to be helpful and then he wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But with with Melton, I have I have some hope that you know, even if he's 80% of the guy he was for those quote unquote six games of last year that it's going to be a help.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You see what Seth does 14 points.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, yesterday, um, and I, and I, if, of course, I only watch like half of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So one, but the half that I watch, buddy, he'll puts up a three goes in one of his second three goes in his third three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It gets fouled so it doesn't count so he shoots three free throws.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that guy, man, it's just a completely different ball player when he's ever able to put them all in him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I think he missed the next.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Next ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he would think he finished two for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, I think there are, we talk some trades yesterday and I have some names to propose, but I think if this team goes as currently constructed, maybe you're a little bit above 500, I think we've all been expecting something to happen with that coming thing and it's like, I, yeah, I think something definitely needs to happen, but ultimately like I feel like a lot of the conversation this year is like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: the depth surrounding the big three like dream on step and and butler it's like can anyone else produce other than those three guys and so the depth is getting criticized, but I feel like last year in the playoffs, it kind of felt like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't you didn't hear that and then of course when you're winning you don't hear that, but like I almost remember some stuff where it's like oh we like the warrior's step.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We like that, you know, some of these guys at the end of the bench that are able to come in and help and you know some geese Santos minutes sprinkled here and there when they're winning and it looks way better when when they're losing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, do you, do you have any thoughts about this team?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because they do want to throw some names at you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, my couple things, the worry is that the worst coming a place like the harder it is, going to be for them to get somebody who can be who can be helpful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh the he hit an awful first half the same indecision can't decide what he's going to do and thus then the defense collapses and then then then they then he's got to pass the ball out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But in the second half he started crashing the boards played much better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know a lot of warriors fans are are wondering why he didn't play late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know his agent was tweeting about

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and so that is a worry of mine, the other part of it is, and we kind of talked about this in the beginning of the season, which is when the roster is that old, you just hope that the injuries kind of are spread out or they all happen at one point and then you're healthy at the other point right now, no stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the latest news is that he's going to be out at least until they believe they come back home, which is like nine days from today, as we're recording December 3rd, Wednesday evening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be, he would miss the entire road trip because they play Philly and Cleveland in Chicago in three games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they come back, let me make sure I have this right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, yeah, so it's Philly Thursday, Cleveland, Saturday, Chicago, Sunday, and they have all the way off until Friday, and this is because of the cup, yeah, the cup's next weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they have a bunch of, they have a bunch of days off just to, like they'll actually be able to practice, which because of all the back to backs when we talked about scheduling and stuff,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Uh, you know, this will this will be a nice rest for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then they get staff back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they get a Horford back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if Melton is going to be back by then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Melton's back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not the action of these planes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's really playing this on the road trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I didn't, I didn't not see that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's that is great news.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then like we you saw the addition of Seth and your brother and I were talking about the like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: comparing Seth to buddy and buddies shot he's struggling with the shot and and we saw that last or he'd get hot for like two or three games and he'd be cold for like the next six or seven games and then in the playoffs he played so well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And one of the things that we noticed is that Seth can actually create his shot with his footwork.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You see a lot of those sidestep shots and the way he shoots it, he actually shoots at a lot different than Steph.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He shoots it above his head so he can actually get that thing high.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was doing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes, sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, because you see him and I, you know, he's got the long tights on and he's got the headband on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he kind of plays like old man game in the way he moves and like he's didn't he didn't look like he was in fantastic shape and then all of a sudden just busting out all these shots and they're just dropping it's like, oh my god, where did this guy come from you know it reminded me of a little bit you remember that movie I took you in your brother to Uncle Drew.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's sort of reminded me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, what does Seth become Uncle Drew out there?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But so that's great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Melton, you know, Melton, I think is a little bit of a Obi-Wan Kenobi, you're only hope here, at least with the roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, like, you know, like, like, how the roster is now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if that's like, you're, you're only hope then like, this team's already done to begin with.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, absolutely, but to go back to that point about the depth, the depth is good when you're winning and when you're losing, like straight everyone, then you point at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, so though, yeah, those are most my thoughts, but, Horford coming back, like we haven't seen him, you know, people were like, oh, I wish we had Looney, I wish we had Looney and I'm like, yeah, of course, but let's see if Horford.

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[SPEAKER_01]: actually blends with this team a little bit better so that would be that would be the other piece but

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jimmy Butler is questionable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think commingous questionable stuff is still out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, the guys just need to get a little healthier.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, what were your trade just that there's, you know, some, I've seen some trade rumors, you know, of course, the big one, Janis, there was a Zion trade room, like I know we've always kind of circulated was I'm, but I feel like it was the first time I've actually seen a report that was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we'll accept an offer for Zion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, Oh, wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's been one that hasn't been reported that I've been kind of intrigued with and I mentioned it for at length in my podcast from yesterday, but you know, there's a there's a player on Memphis that

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[SPEAKER_00]: is making $38 million right now that, you know, plays the four, but it has the size of a five and gets knocked for not rebounding and went to Michigan State.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's buddies with Dramon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there's, I would like to know what Memphis fans think about Jaren Jackson's trade availability because he's having a pretty poor season to start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it's, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's funny because I'm just in so many fantasy leagues, so sometimes I see like I judge them from a fantasy point perspective and not even from like a, you know, a point's rebounds perspective, but I have them in some of my leagues and I'm just like wow dude, like this is like some bench player like output right now, but and it's funny because I'm about to say I wanted for the warriors, but it's more look more because I think you can buy low or you might be able to buy low.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's making $38 million right now and the next year is when a big contract kicks in it's like $50 million a year for four or five years player option and he's going to be like 29 30 by the end of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just to be able to like you know you put together coming good and buddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And and you throw some picks in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, does that what does that do?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I've just confused about Memphis situation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What they're looking at what they want to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it looked like this year, they were probably going to go try to do something again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they finally got John Jaren back healthy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like clearly, John's not available.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Edy was out to start season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I don't necessarily know what's going on over there and who's available and who's not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm surprised that I haven't heard his name floated and trade rumors, considering how much he's going to get paid next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: what he's putting out right now and then you see a fifty million dollar price tag on and starting next year like how is that not someone maybe you want to get off and Memphis is perspective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think he would be awesome on the warriors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that there's the foul thing that Drayman's always kind of able to bait him with when we play him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was about to say their foul problems don't get better with them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just wondering if there's some type of like mentor relationship that Dramon already has with him with the Michigan State thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I've already said that three times, but you know, I, I just wonder if this is a good place for him to be able to do who would Memphis take that it all needs to be is like I think JK moody and a one million dollar player whoever that is on the Warriors or you bring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, of course, of course, some pigs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but I mean, you could even swap moody and buddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just saying from a money perspective, like that's what it takes to get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: From a pigs perspective, like I'm of of of the camp of like sending as much as you can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, I don't want to get fließed, but I wonder if his trade value has dropped say what it was to start of the year or or last year, even where, you know, I think for the warriors, I think Bill Simmons did like a gaffered mock trade and I think gaffered to create, but I just wonder

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[SPEAKER_00]: and Jimmy's not really a shooter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dramon, of course, is not a shooter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Gaffered cannot shoot three ball like hat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we're in the era of like four shooters on the court at all times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I know we've kind of been a Dramon Looney four or five non-shooter thing for the longest time now, but I think we're kind of past that with you don't want three non-shooters in your starting line up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I've just been trying to think, trying to think of who is a center that stretches the floor that doesn't give up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: anything defensively and that's a rare breed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a hard player to find.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a costly player because any player that could stretch the floor say like a voosevich, they give up the defense went and post.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They give up the defense and you could name them all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's a couple in Miles Turner and Jaren Jackson Jr that both might be available given if Janice's gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that, you know, they could shoot the three and not give up anything defensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know Miles Turner's had a rough start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've already mentioned Jared Jackson, Jr's rough start, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You put him in a, in this system where they are like the fourth, third, fourth guy, like, I, I would, I would take that risk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's what they need right now is a big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what's funny is both those players kind of get criticized also for rebounding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the warriors do a really well good job of getting rebounding.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just wonder if you have a seven footer out there that can move really well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: can play offense, can play defense, like, you know, if things start to change.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I, yeah, that's kind of what I want to know from maybe some some people in the know is what is Jaren Jackson Jr's availability because I think he's been not playing well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think his contract looks kind of crazy right now, starting next year, $50 million for a year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in those later years, I don't know how much the lawyers would want to give up of those later years that stuff might not be around because those could be some pretty valuable picks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I just wonder what it would take to get something like that done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, Marcus said on the pod today, he's just Kobe White or Tray Murphy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm down for either of those guys and down for either of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's like, can you do Jaren Jackson Junior and a Keyon Ellis?

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is someone to help with the point of attack that could be in the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, like, does that, that just feels like it solves a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I feel like you got to blow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, what about we, we talked about this person because we got to watch the Houston game in person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We talked about TJ McConnell because that was the name last week that had come out that he could possibly be moved with the warriors be interested in TJ McConnell like if you saw how Pat Spencer played last year or last year last night like Pat Spencer was one of the only guys who could actually get to the spot that he wanted and TJ McConnell is that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: plus a better shot, plus a better finisher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that would be interesting too to help with that second team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, it is players like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for whatever reason, you know, maybe the warriors just thought pods was gonna be that guy and he's just not, but they could use somebody like that like you mentioned, just to get to the pink.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if it's like everybody wants trailer and the thing is he's one of the guys that I haven't seen I haven't seen him or Kobe white like get like oh we're looking to trade them

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[SPEAKER_00]: either of those guys i haven't seen anything from their respective teams i just think tray Murphy's like okay say the pelicans want to be like oh we have this player named air queen who's a rookie and just got us 45 points like we think we want to start maybe shifting to building around that guy will guess who fits around dare queen tray Murphy guess who fits around Zion tray Murphy's so it's like i don't know why they would want to trade him um but you know i guess it's i don't know so

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they need to get rid of Zion.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't need to get rid of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we'll be agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I just, I think it's going to be a player who might not like wigs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When we got wigs, I was kind of like, really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what we got from like, you know, like I wasn't like head over heels about the idea of wiggins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I mean, of course, people may be listening to this now or be like, are you kidding me?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like wiggins is like, dude, revision is history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't know if you remember what wiggins was when we got him,

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[SPEAKER_00]: who hadn't done anything really and you know, there was those questions always about like, oh, he could he kind of has like that buddy healed cycle where it's like, wow, wigs looks really good for three games and then he kind of disappears for X amount of games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, the ends up being like the one of the best trades I think in in this

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was a flea title of fleece in a half, so I think it's going to be something like that where it's like I wasn't head over heels about wigs I would be head over heels about jaren like I would be very excited to get that guy on the team, but is there you know think maybe more in that direction than some of the obvious fits I guess.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the last time we talked, I had mentioned, you know, they really need to go like five and one or four and one on this five game, homestand.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Three and two almost felt like, ah, you know, that's, we should do better than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they go two and three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And some of that, and some of that is because Steph gets hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now who knows, he may not win that Houston game, even if he's healthy because they were tooth and nail the whole time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But two and three, and then you get the kick in the nuts of Steph getting hurt at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that was a bad homestay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, my question to you is, no Steph, Jimmy's questionable for Thursday, but they go Thursday, Saturday, Sunday, another game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cleveland is not fantastic, but the Warriors match up terribly against Cleveland.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm putting that one as an L.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's the one I say they lose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can they beat Philly, who is a little bit of about 500?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Chicago, who is a little bit below 500.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're all sort of right in the same mix.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can they beat those two teams?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And actually gain a game on this show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it feels more likely that that's not going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't think it's completely like out of the question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they've kind of had

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chicago's number, you know, since 2020, I've been probably for for the longest time, but I think like even this newer iteration of Chicago where you had the Levine Dymard duo, like I know it's not there anymore, but they've I don't remember them really losing games against Chicago since then so maybe maybe you can you can pull something off there and then fill is going to be an interesting one because

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[SPEAKER_00]: Tyre's Max, he's been pretty crazy to start the year, and I don't know if he needs back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And who will guard him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's he's talk about guards that have killed us this year and having career games and read Shepherd and Ryan Rollins, allow me to introduce you one of the best guards scoring guards in the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How's their rook?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there a rook he's still playing with?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is, but he was hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he had a pretty good game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget if it was yesterday or two days ago, but yet Jared McCain's back to, so like they've kind of have a fool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're starting to become healthy and have a full lineup and I'm interested in how their rotations look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just have a lot of guys that are, I feel like I would want on the Warriors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's a team to beat as they, you know, they're trying to figure all that stuff out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's a win you could sneak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we've also haven't really always had like the roughest time with Joel.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He always plays well, but I think we usually beat the sixiers, like we killed them last year when I went.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I just don't think it's likely, of course, when we're missing your best player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The entire system is based on how this player plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See some Seth Curry, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've interested in seeing some Seth Curry.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the state of this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so I guess the other thing I wanted to talk, you mentioned it a little bit already with the news about Yannis, but let's let's talk a little bit about the the NBA here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A sad I don't know why I was so sad about this, but Chris Paul got cut or they came to terms and they waived him And so he's no longer a clipper and he and Tyloo weren't getting along and people were

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of like as the report that I saw was people weren't happy with how vocal he was or maybe he was being negative and like yeah that's what happens when you're not the best player in the team anymore like those same words don't mean as much I kind of go bad for him though and then at the same time I was like

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[SPEAKER_01]: could the warriors use it is like now that did not work well when when it was okay but it it didn't mean that they they were a better team because he was on it but I was like could he run the second team and I he'd have the same issues that all their guards currently have with the more athletic master players yeah cpman

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of bummed too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't help but think that there was some James Harden influence.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because it wasn't there an issue with James Harden and CP just having very like almost contrasting leading leadership styles in Houston.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like towards the end of that of that Houston regime there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like there was some budding heads and they weren't like totally friends.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They weren't friends at all after.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I wonder if if there was some Harden influence to get my my clippers buddy just says no.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like tyloo and and what does it Lawrence Frank is their GM or something like those guys If those guys need to go, but bomber hasn't cut them and he sees say he sees he's saying that they have some they might have some dirt on bomber for the aspirations Oh Maybe CP has some dirt on two did that CP knows where the trees are buried

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the honest thing, I'm there's not much about the honest thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it feels like an pending doom.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I worried about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I went on a long rant about the Oklahoma City Thunder on how, like, I'm worried about, you know, they're.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Them getting the on them having the war chest to pick, and kind of just holding it over everyone like we could go for Yannas or we don't have to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or we could go for all these players like there's,

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[SPEAKER_01]: With that they would have to change their offense a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can't have Kitche and Yannis kind of do similar things with the title, but it's just the return my turn.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Go sit on that damn corner while Yannis cooks vice versa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they can literally do a trade for Yannis.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know how, you know, future salary cap would look, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: where you because Chet and Jdub are still in the rookie deals and I believe next year is when their actual extensions kick in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they don't even make them much money right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It'd be like a heart and still that Stein.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I forget what like it's like heart and Stein door and

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Cason Wallace or Jalen Williams, the bigger Jalen Williams instead of Cason that would get it done money wise and the thing is why like, like you think with the honest is like, okay, you want a young player in picks where I just don't know how many teams can offer that and with Oklahoma City Thunder, it's like, how about we give you seven first round picks because we have eight more that we're okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they could they just overload the trade offer with picks where they don't, they could bypass the OE need, we need a promising young player with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I think they can.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why like a offer of heart and stone, door and case and wallets is just there to get to the money and you're not, you know, we're then we'll just overload you with the amount of firsts that we own.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the thing with the bucks though is that we have to keep an eye out for is that they don't

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like 1,000% you should try to tank and rebuild it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you don't own your first run picks, maybe you want to try and trade on us in a deal where you get that stuff back, but they have

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[SPEAKER_00]: Pixwops and first, like sent to Atlanta.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe sent to New Orleans if that's still from the drill holiday deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course, Portland from the Dame deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they're just everywhere, like except for with the bucks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know how they're gonna do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Yannis is not going to be a book by the start of the next season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not as, I don't know, do you think he gets traded by the deadline or do you think it's more of an off season thing?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm I have a hard time because of this second apron stuff seeing how these trades actually work like even easy trades seem like they're really hard to do and this one of it seemed like a nuts trade you know that you mentioned okay see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: isn't the spurs one even scary yes at the okay see and and spurs are like the two teams I'm like just looking at and seeing like who's going to do it who's going to do it and with okay see I feel they can wait until the off season and make a deal for for Janice so they could include you know maybe it's chat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So because I'm interested on how the books will look because if you keep, because like I said, you can milk the trade right now without chat or jada because they're on the rookie deals, but what happens when next year kicks in and 14 million dollars goes to 40 million dollars for both of those players and now you're on the books of shay at 50 yannis at 50 and then jada and he had at 40 40 like what ends up you go into the second apron and then all that stuff starts to happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm wondering, like, would they rather wait till the in the office isn't and just trade chat and one other player for Janice and be able to stay under the second apron?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in there in my mind, if I'm, you know, Presti, like, do I maybe want to want to make the move?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, so that San Antonio won't get them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because if it was a San Antonio, it feels like, you know, of course, so many things could happen in this crazy league, but it would seem like he's there for a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: People don't go to San Antonio and want to leave if you're a star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, yeah, that that is a pretty fascinating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just the idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, we've been waiting for it, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like people once you honest became you honestly got his title, it was almost like, yeah, clock certainly agreeing as to when he was going to be gone.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So in the warriors, you know, the warrior's stuff, everyone's stuff drafted him in that, uh, that all star game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the warriors just don't have enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't even imagine how they would even try and compete with an offer unless Yannis was like, I only want to go to one place, which I don't think is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So nothing really else we mentioned the Yannis injury or the Zion injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sorry about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's about it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's let's move over and let's talk some WMBA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's talk some golden state Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw today that you tweeted out, you stay signed on with project B.

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[SPEAKER_01]: whatever project be is like it's that there's no transparency in the project be do they even have a website like do they have anything I don't what would they even have like a start time that they want that they want to begin like this will be this summer like what is when when when is this winner I guess what when when is it gonna

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even, I wish there's more information about what this is going to be going to figure this out right now, but I haven't really done the deep dive yet because I think that's been a thing with project B is there's just not been that much information shared.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but of like the eight players that have been, you know, introduced two of them are Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think it's something that we probably should learn and pay attention to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's even something like three or four podcasts to go like I was kind of talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, it might stupid to be talking about this thing right now because we, There's no player sign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know absolutely nothing, but I was kind of like could this impact how negotiations are going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now it just feels like it's kind of, it's like really in our face without really knowing much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think it does impact negotiations because it's been reported that these players are signing like a million dollar contract, um, you know, right out the gates, uh, which is pretty crazy money considering you stay was coming in to make $70,000.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now she gets to sign most likely what is a million dollar contract in project B and you should you get like equity in that league or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, other than that, we know nothing, you know, there's rumors that it's backed by Saudi money right and but we don't know anything like I don't know how we're supposed to know I'm kind of just waiting for the athletic pod to like just tell me it's like tell me what's going on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't think that they're the like they're just so tight lip on it and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if they're waiting to see what happens with the CBA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I also wonder if the CBA, like if the WMBA ownership group is kind of seeing if they have more information, like it's almost like, I don't think the WMBA is really too worried about it, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, there's some pretty big names who look like they want to be a part of it, and this would be a league that would run the opposite time that the WMBA would run.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So these women who sign up for this league will be playing like year round.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you did WMBA, you would go, OK, well, they're going to get hurt like you who can play year round like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that that's a little bit of a worry, but I was just fastening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did not expect like you could have gave me 10 guesses on who is going to be the next person to sign up for project be out of never guessed you stay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm trying to think she might be the first person from that draft class.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because it's been like Kamilikardos.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they started with a list of Thomas and then Jewel Lloyd and then Jankwell Jones and then there's a Chinese player and I'm forgetting her name, but then it was, you know, Janelle and you stay and there hasn't been that many and you stay as one of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, good for her, get that bag.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't know this might be irresponsible podcasting, but this is the Google AI from when when does project be start says launch date November 26 season duration November 2026 to April 2027.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Location games will be held in Europe in Asia scheduled the season is designed not to conflict with the WMBA season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's less than a year to start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's wild.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think I feel like they have to have a website if they're a year less than a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They need a website.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about I guess we could make a little bit of a mention.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you watch any of Veronica's three on three?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Hello, I watched a little bit of it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How was it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: The three on three game is is interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not entirely for me, but it's nice to see WMBA players play basketball, because when you watch the college players start to forget like, well, like the WMBA players are like, it's just such a better time to watch them because they're so much better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was nice to see Veronica Shakira.

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[SPEAKER_00]: as to play again, especially Veronica, like it's just so much more of a constant reminder that this is like an all world defender.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she is so good defensively, it's like incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the warriors could use a point of attack player, like Veronica Burton, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now it feels like that's what they're kind of missing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she's just so good at moving her feet, keeping that player in front of her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's so strong too, so it's just like, you can't really bully her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have nothing to do with things to say about Burton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Ben and Serena, they had a really fun post.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had a fun exercise, which is let's be GMs of the two new expansion teams, the tempo and the fire, and let's put together our expansion draft picks for what we believe will be the available players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what they did,

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[SPEAKER_01]: is they did all the protections and they only did five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they also made all of the picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so the five players that they protected for the Valkyries were Veronica Burton, you stay, Iliana Rupere, Janelle Salon, and Kayla Thornton.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We had some people in the discord or one specific person in the discord.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe it was cast a said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I thought about that for a second, and one, she's coming off in the injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Two, they're able to make the playoffs without her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I get that perspective.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the team should be cooking if Kayla is back, full strength.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like she is, if not their best players, their second best player, at least on the court as we saw last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if it's Veronica, then Kayla's right there next year, like that's how good they were.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, but if you protect Kayla, then you cannot protect.

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[SPEAKER_01]: someone like Carla or someone like Van Lassini.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what what did you think about their choices for the five protections?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Am I back?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Recing what what do I think about their selections and their protections?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you think about the five-partum?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just tough because I know that, you know, Expand draft stuff needs to start coming out because it would have been in like a week or two And it's like, you know, good content to get out there gets a lot of clicks But I just wish you still don't know the rules, man Like we still don't know and that means a lot to know how many protections you get to know what the undrafted free agency rule is

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of what I'm most looking for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think what I liked from that exercise that they did is kind of seeing where the rest of the teams, you know, because it's like, I don't think that their five is going to be the exact five that we protect that the Valkyries protect, but it's pretty damn close, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's kind of interesting seeing, you know, their protections for the rest of the league, Dallas, especially.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, they are Rika Ogumbuala was not protected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was selected in their mock draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think with Kayla, I think if you do not protect Kayla and there is, I think she, she, and there's only five protections, I think she probably gets selected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so are you okay with that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, just the idea of like if the Valkyries had the opportunity to I know that given Kayla's circumstances she wasn't all star, but she missed a lot of time like imagine if the Valkyries had the opportunity to select in all star.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they would have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I just think that, but the thing is from my experience so far watching kind of, you know, of course, we don't have, we can't like watch her up close, like we can with the players or with coach nap, but I'm talking about oh, him a neon and energy emming style.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have felt like I've talked about, you know, maybe what I would do as a GM and it kind of feels like I'm trying to like be advantageous and and you know, make all these deals and and then in reality, like kind of nothing happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I've wondered if she's more of like a relationship kind of GM like you know Kayla helped build the culture build the foundation of this team like I think putting my faith in you and making you a protection like that might go a long way versus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, not protecting you and and maybe making the advantageous thing, which is Carla, you know, Carla's not nearly the player, Kayla Thornton is right now, but she has, you know, years left on on the books and not you can't say that for a lot of players in the WMBA right now that you can actually have them for sure on your team the following season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, I do think that, you know, seeing her GM, instead I feel like Kayla gets protected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So seeing what we've seen so far, no trades, you know, she hasn't made any trades, um, feels like, not, you know, just, it hasn't been, I guess, like the, the, you know, the trade deadline or the free agency splash, it hasn't been like very splashy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's been very like reserved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder, I feel like not protecting Kayla's splashy, like it's like, whoa.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess the jewelry van loo thing was it was a little, but it's like when then we looked into it and we're like, okay, maybe not made that wasn't a big deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so what do you think?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, the, I think the question would be, uh, well, if you protected Carla, it's just the Vandalistini is still out there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalistini is there, Vandalist

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the last scene starts with the Zandila scene with Andila and she would she could possibly go as well because she's a shooter now some some Balker's fans may say well she's in plenty defense or she's slow footed or or whatever but she's she can she makes just

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[SPEAKER_01]: Carla or her or Kayla, and you can only protect one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it had to be now that they're brass, probably understands, since they just went through the expansion thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because they were so successful, the other teams are probably gonna try and duplicate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what you know who's a Portland GM is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was the VP of the Valkyries, you know, the one that one roll under Ohema.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she knows this team, Vaunya Servenovic, she knows this team, you know, inside and out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think that's probably why Sabrina or Africa who was Sabrina or Ben, but they had Portland selecting Maria Conde, who, I probably say that name to you and you're probably like, who the hell is that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's because he was he didn't play too much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did from the Chicago sky and last year's expansion draft, tears are ACL overseas and it's now playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe our Kielys, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I believe Kielys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think she was playing on the team that Janelle and Caitlin Chen are playing on right now, but it looks like she's playing in France right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, in international player, Vanya seems to, you know, have her eye, like know about all the international players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think when I talk to you, say like, that was the one person from the Valkyries org that she had already known was Vanya.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So she's kind of, and she knows her way around the international scene.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it makes sense for her to go in the direction of cone day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I gotta imagine at least from Toronto's perspective that if Kayla was available, I think they'd select Kayla.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, they see you, it's it's stuff to think about because Kayla is the obvious person in my opinion, if there is undrafted free agent rules set in place, that you can only select one, I might, I might leave Kayla out there, if it's only one, but if you can kind of just go nuts and select them all, and last year, I don't think, I'm forgetting if there was a rule that you couldn't select them or if it was that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you it would only make sense to select one because you would only be able to offer one a core designation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just tough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's tough for this because it's fun and it's very interesting and it's fun fodder but like it's like we just don't know the damn rules because what I believe Xandalucini is a restricted for agent or she's just one of those reserved or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think she's unrestricted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think, and then Carl of course is still in a rookie scale, so it just would make sense to prioritize.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I know, of course, Kayla is the better player than Carl of, but just given, in Carl, I think still has some potential.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not saying, I don't think Carl is, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, one of the problems last year was, was Carl's job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how she shoot not there right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I feel like I should look this up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Sabrina in the article, Sabrina Merchant mentioned that her free throw percentage is actually really good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you would think that she can improve the longest in shooting because her free throw percentage is good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's something about and she's just so young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want, you know, you're going to bring over you stay who is very young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Carla, you have Carla who's very young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to draft somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: who's going to be young, how many young players do you want?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Are they going to add, you know, they're going to bring in, they may bring in more international players who are going to be younger.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really about how you want to set your future, but I feel like a lot of that, they may decide differently based on the CBA, which we'll talk about right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The players,

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[SPEAKER_01]: they want to kind of get rid of the core thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now that may be just leverage, like, oh, you know, well, we want to get rid of the core thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you give us this and we'll be okay with the core thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It could be one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But there's like, actual changes that, you know, both sides are talking about the the WNBA side wants to have like this draft camp stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you don't come to the draft camp, then there are things that you don't send any salary if you don't come.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that sounds really dumb to me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There are rookie contracts that the players want the contract scaled down from four years to three years because you can then be poured a couple of times so can really push your free.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can I say that's that I thought that was an interesting thing is that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, hypothetically, I think from the athletic piece, they just said, what if, you know, you have the four year rookie scale, I think the fourth year's a team option, and then you are restricted for agent for one year, and then you're chord two years in a row.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you finally hit an unrestricted for agency.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know what is that four or five six seven years after you're drafted and if you were a college player you're you're getting drafted in the same year that you turn like twenty two so that you're out of twenty nine years old finally hitting unrestricted freedom if those all aligned which likely would be like a star player how that would take a baseball so that you know that they're trying to change that so it's a three year rookie scale instead of the four years with the fourth

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[SPEAKER_00]: Have you seen what about the team housing stuff they want to get rid of team housing and and apartment or housing stipends that they give out, which I think is tough considering that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they aren't paying all too much right now, but I know that's expected to go up and what is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's a lot of 10 day deals, 10, 10 day contracts because they have limited roster space.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so you're not locking these players all of these players into full season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what does a player do, if they don't know, maybe I'm with Golden State for 10 days, maybe I'm with them for a month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: A little bit more expensive to live out here to rent an apartment in the Bay Area than it is in some of these other places.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, that's an interesting one too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: demeaning I guess is the word that I thought like the ownership's being kind of looking down upon the players in some way like that's how I took that one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Some of the other stuff is you know we obviously we've talked with the revenue sharing and the the players obviously they still want that 50 50 that 50 50 revenue sharing

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[SPEAKER_01]: The current league proposal actually has their share of the pie lessening as the as the deal goes on which is kind of an interesting thing and and from the ownership perspective I'm sure it's like well we think revenue is going to go up here so you're still going to get a large piece but it being less is you know if you have a hundred bucks and you get 10% of that hundred bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it goes up to 500 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you get 8% of that 500 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still more than the 10% of the 100 bucks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's how it works.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But still, why do you want to put those limits on it unless you believe that you're owed some of this in some way and you're trying to catch up to zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if that's how the ownership is also looking at it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... they uh... the max contracts were one point two uh... which is base salary plus revenue sharing in the average salary would be projected to be five hundred so that is that is quite a jump um... and uh... the wnba players association is focused on the total league revenue and they said that the proposed

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[SPEAKER_01]: would result in players receiving less than 15% of total league revenue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there is quite a gap there from 15% to 50% that is, they have a lot of work to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this latest agreement was to push it out the deadline to January 9th.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is about five weeks away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it feels like they've been heard, but not listen to it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And my question is, well, how does five more weeks change that, you know?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you guys are at a stand still here and I'm not sure five weeks is necessarily I was talking to someone earlier today and we were talking about like do you feel like a lockout is still like what do you think is going to be a lockout and I kind of felt like after the November sorry, the October extension when they needed to figure it out by October 31st and then they're like okay, we'll do a one month extension like things seemed more like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the vibe and the messaging, it seemed more like dire or more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: likely forced the four like a lockout like it just did not seem good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seemed like they were so far apart.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this time around it feels like they're still far apart, but at least, you know, the money's been going up, but they're still like all these other things that they're like, okay, we'll bring the money, but we'll take it away, team housing, we're taking away all this other stuff for starting the draft early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, okay, they still got to figure out some of this stuff, but it doesn't feel like the vibes and the messaging, like it doesn't feel as bad as it did a month ago.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do wonder like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: If, you know, these six weeks, they'll be able to figure something out because that what you said, Nekka said, like, you know, we feel like we're being heard but not listened to or like the we feel like we're like we're being disrespected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I remember Satu's obviously saying that many a time during the season, like, that's been a very consistent message.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So in my head, I'd be like, okay, well, then we're headed towards a lockout because they keep saying the same damn thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, I get seems like from the owner's perspective, it's nothing's changing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it just doesn't, it don't feel that way as much as it did after the first extension.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I kind of am optimistic that they're going to figure something out in these six weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I don't have, you know, the behind the scenes or the, or the, to confidently say that they're going to do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's more so just vibes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they've mentioned wanting to start the season earlier, which doesn't make any sense whatsoever, because it's fully reliant on the end of

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[SPEAKER_01]: and the draft, like, are you gonna start this draft during final four weekend?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, how do you, that doesn't sound smart?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I do, I do wonder, the player's association, they do have a trick up their sleeve.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All Caitlin Clark has to do is come out and say, we are going to be patient, we are not gonna sign a bad deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is up to the owners to come to the plate with something a little bit more of a partnership.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if Caitlin was to come out and put a little bit of pressure on the league and make the league look bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have this very diverse audience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I know that our Bay Area Valkyries audience is going to be way more diverse than the everyone else's, but you go to a Valkyries game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is an audience that is going to be much more player-centric, player-focused than, you know, rooting, like sometimes you see in the NFL, like fans root for the owners for some weird reason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you have a league that is a little bit, you know, the WMBA to be a fan of the WMBA, you're probably a little bit more savvy about certain things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you had the most popular player, the most famous player come out and say, ownership bad, you guys need to step up to the plate and take a seriously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that publicly changes the dynamics of this whole thing and actually makes people go, oh, like they're, they may not start next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: My, my, you're telling me, New York Liberty, you're calling me for renewals and Caitlin Clark just told me that,

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[SPEAKER_01]: We may not start on time like what's going on here and then you put more pressure on that kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's the trick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I don't know if they'll utilize it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if Katelyn won't think she wants to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's a completely different conversation, but I feel like in her two short years in the league so far, it's kind of felt like she doesn't want to shake the boat in that regard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it felt like when she even like kind of agreed with the

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the feces, you know, call out of Kathy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that felt like a really big deal because she, and because it's like our standards are a little lower for her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she does a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, oh, wow, she really did something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But here's Paige on the other hand, just like, you know, so on board with everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just like what we expect that, you know, Paige has always kind of been like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I feel like it, I think that would be a big deal if she did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not entirely anticipating it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not ruling it out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I agree with you that that changes a lot of things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She, you know, she's Caitlyn Clark dude.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, she.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She, it will put pressure on some folks to do some stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, the one thing I like about Caitlyn.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if you, uh, I read her book, uh, the Christine, I think it's Christine Brennan wrote, There's already a book out on on center name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Caitlyn, you better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Christine Brennan, I saw her, I said Brennan, Christine Brennan kind of been at the forefront of women's sports, she wrote a book on Caitlyn, and one of the things about Caitlyn is Caitlyn has a really good perspective of the people who came before her, the women who came before her, and were pioneers, and everyone knows the, the Maya more story

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not going to take this for granted because I know the hard work that went before me and a lot of the women who maybe, you know, didn't get the same treatment as her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's, she's very much understands that part of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think, I think she's, I think her spirit and her mindset is there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it go against the sponsorships, does it go against what Nike wants to do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it go against what her PR team wants to do that kind of that's the kind of thing that you you worry about in the scenario like historically right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Michael Jordan stayed as much in the middle as he could as possible and he once said he jokingly like, you know, Republicans by shoes to like he said that and that that became like a public I was literally about the day that I go okay for the Caitlin thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So but that is out there, but I feel like Caitlin in today's society is a little bit more of a feeling kind of person.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then the pop culture figure that was Michael Jordan, so I would love to see it because I get why the players want what they want and I sort of get why the owners are like hold on here we we've been trying to get this thing running for 20 some odd years we finally had to really good seasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like let's not put the horse before the cart like I get that, but I also get ownership, they just penny pinched everything so some of that I don't really believe in it, but yeah, they they have a card to pull here and I think if they did it, I think it would actually work and I think it would actually create the sides and.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and you would have fans starting to go like, oh yeah, why don't the owners want to give them, like the NBA gets 50%, why do the owners will only want to give the WNBA 15% like, what is the deal here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't sound fair.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that would put a lot of the owners on them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've learned a thing to say because we didn't touch on it, but obviously there's a woman's college basketball season going right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Valkyries have the eighth pick in the draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was just going to say to people who want to keep an eye on specific college players for Valkyries purposes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that I said in our discord, which is another reason to join the discord.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We talk about this stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I'm anticipating for them to be looking at specifically this first player, because Natalie Nikasay was in the audience when UCLA played Tennessee, and this player had a really good game, Gabriella Hockez.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm anticipating that the Valkyries are keeping an eye on Gabriella, and maybe would select her with that eighth pick.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The same goes for South Carolina's Raven Johnson,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The same goes for Giannipekins of UCLA as well, and the same goes for Medina O'Cott from South Carolina.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So two UCLA, two South Carolina.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a few other players Ohio State transfer to Ole Miss, Cody McMahon is someone whom I'm kind of keeping an eye on as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: More so, I'm just wondering of the direction of what they want to draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do they want to kind of keep

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, someone who can hit a three point shop, but also has that gritty defense that, you know, Nat coach, Nat seems to like to coach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think those a lot of those players have been that except for Nick, because she's more of just a sharp shooter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I know she's, uh, it seems like there's a kind of a polarizing belief of where she should fall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I know the Syrieth's pod for for the ringer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I think they feel like she's kind of tossing around like five or six for for Neepkins when there's kind of been like a consensus top six or seven, then anyone that falls after that is anyone's game that Neepkins hasn't been a part of, but you know, so she's kind of zagging and and saying that a maybe, you know, Neepkins is a five or six player.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So a couple of other people have that belief too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just something to keep an eye on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I think this

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this year there's been some leaps and and high scoring games kind of does it all similar to her brother and shoot the three ball play defense cut.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He does what you want, you know someone who wants to a rope a winning role player to do think that would fit well on the Valkyries, but I'll continue to watch and keep an eye out and update as we go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Are we going to a true, we should.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's I believe it's it's like the the weekend of like the 18th or the 20th of the 21st.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's around that The Envisaline Bay Area Women's Classic and it's like USC stand for it burglary and is it Ohio State again?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget who the fourth school is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to see you as a cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, that is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we can actually go whenever next week because the boys only have one game next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's on Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll figure out probably Thursday, probably Thursday, maybe Wednesday, if necessary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But we'll, so we'll be back to talk more stuff and stuff's happening in, in Warriors Land for sure with with some of these guys coming back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was just sort of at the mercy of the CBA, like I said last time, once this thing gets agreed upon, then it's like a full steam ahead, and there's going to be so much stuff to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't wait for that to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, for Brian, I am WGC when we see you piece out.