Warner Out! 49ers Lose to Bucs: Mac Jones, Trench Domination, Bourne's Big Day | We Want Winners

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, we're live with we want winners and not winners today, and losers in more ways than one because of an injury that we'll discuss here in a second, Rod before this game started, you know, we had the we kind of stole one in in L.A.

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[SPEAKER_00]: last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think fans would have been very happy with a split with a Ram's buck and ears split.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you get the first one, you kind of get greedy and in Tampa Bay, they kind of looked out of it because this game, I think this game was originally scheduled for a 10 a.m.

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[SPEAKER_00]: start Pacific and they moved it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it was there for the taking and it was like, wow, they could actually win this game if it's things happen a certain way, but did you feel like to me this this game didn't feel like a giant loss because that kind of in in Erasable pencil had this one marked as a loss already so that was, you know, I'm not too mad that they actually lost the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, the Fred Warner injury, which we'll talk about in a second is the biggest thing of the whole week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe of the season, but where did you have this one peg?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I wouldn't say this was the most disappointing loss in any way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, especially after I thought coming in, it was going to be a tough go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then God would go and out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then, you know, it's like, I was like you, I kind of had a pencil in as a loss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then it was like, okay, there kind of is injured as we are.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe we can go down there and steal one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then it was like, you know, once the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Warner injury happened, it kind of felt like the air had been led out of the balloon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then turned around and he booke a win out, but still it just wasn't enough to um, that was just a lot to to overcome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I think we're in the same boat kind of the way that we looked at this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, there were moments where it's me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if uh... if mac wasn't doing his uh... impression of the statue of liberty that they're there there may have been an opportunity you know this is like when you watch mac and you watch that game in st.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Louis due to stuff you obviously due to stuff and even in some throws in this game

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[SPEAKER_00]: where he was throwing some lasers down the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, wow, you know, it's incredible how he can put balls in very specific places.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then, and you see him get sacked on a,

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[SPEAKER_00]: a very straight forward pass for us in many occasions like he can literally see these things coming right at him and he does not have the ability to get out of the way or to to skate out and give himself a little bit more time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you're like okay this is why this is another reason why why Brock is is there number one quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do feel like if you had a healthy Brock pretty you got you got a really good shot at this one and you already kind of had a good shot at this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: hey, I can't really complain about the way Mac has played these last two games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a shot today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was more of to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was more the fault of both lines of skirmish for the 49ers than it was really Mac Jones because he did make some big throws.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But let's we buried the lead because the real problem for this game and for this season is the loss of Fred Warner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: to these guys going down that it was like when I saw Fred down he was when they finally got the camera on him it looked like he was holding his shin and so I immediately thought okay did he break his leg it was it was kind of upper shin so there there was a thought as well about you know ACL or something

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, gosh, you know, what, what do you actually root for?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What, what, in that moment when we don't know the severity of the injury, what are we hoping for?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because when he grabbed that part of his leg, it's not like you can say, Oh, maybe it's just a pulled hammy like Kittle or maybe it's a calf injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a very specific place that it looked to be hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when you saw the replay and they shielded the fans really from I'm sure there are better angles of his foot turning sideways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if it was the worst, maybe it was the worst for him, but that was like on the the very.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like deep end of the drastic injuries that I was hoping it was not and man that one just let all the air out of the balloon because I think we thought at least after the four and one start without both of their probably not championship bound but they could they could make the playoffs with that team now without both of without Fred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of wonder what they believe they can be now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When you take, and this is another exercise I was thinking about is I was like, okay, who's hurt?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Perti, Kittle, Warner, Bosa, Iyuk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think those are the five most high-spade players on the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're all two of them are out for the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Three of them we hope are coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: shortly, maybe I used a little bit longer, but like how do you win a football game when every player that you decided to pay and even players that you decided not to pay who Joanne Jennings says he's playing with five broken ribs?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like these guys are the walking wounded and at some point, there's going to be a day where you cannot overcome that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is why I hope Perty and Kiddler kind of on their way back next week, because there is a little bit more hope when you have your offense on the field, the way that it was intended to be on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at some point, like this, there's gonna be too much to overcome, not only on the field, but also emotionally inside of that locker room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it is becoming, I think we're rapidly getting there to the point where it literally is just too much to overcome and, you know, we were at a point where just statistically our defense align is awful and you kind of could convince yourself and talk yourself into even if you could just get one guy over there if you could just give solid one guy over there that maybe.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it could you could make a difference, but at this point with, you know, Warner is like, he was like a big fatty racer over there in terms of anything that might go wrong.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could fix it and literally fix it in terms of getting guys in position and what neck of the receptor times where

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[SPEAKER_01]: people were out of position, and it was noticeable, you know, the analyst mentioned the fact that that was what that was that's one or one of his big jobs is to keep to get everybody where they're supposed to be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were several case, several cases where you had blown assignments that probably don't happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: if he's there in addition to all the plays that he just makes like there was one where he just like blew up a running play where you know there's a screen pass I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing fashion right yeah where he just like carries the guy into into and just blows the play up basically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean that is just you know you and you can't obviously can't replace that and you know I don't know some people don't

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[SPEAKER_01]: believe in that stuff, but I am one who kind of believes in the emotional toll those losses take like for one, I believe in addition to just his physical presence, I think,

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[SPEAKER_01]: going out of that Super Bowl, cost us, you know, in addition to him being a great player, I just, you just see, you know, Warner's reaction to that play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, to not to that injury, it just said it all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, I'm sure he, you know, he busted his ass, you know, afterwards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, there was a, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: of release.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because that's your guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just there's an emotional toll that all these injuries take I believe, because I mean, there's these are people too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's going to be interesting, like you say, I don't know after you have, I don't think they're going to blow it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: It becomes interesting, with the season he's having, obviously, they're probably not going to do that, but you, you look at, we are rapidly heading into a place, Christian McCaffrey is on pace for like 1200 yards receiving, which is crazy for running back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so we're going to be smacked that back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he's going to be up for an extension and now he's two years older.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So where are you with that?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could make the case the same thing for kiddo.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He signed an extension this year, but basically it was a one year extension.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they chose to, they could revisit that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again,

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[SPEAKER_01]: entertain anything that drastic, but it, you know, if these are things that have to be considered, when the balloon is burst like it has been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you think this changes the mentality when it comes into trading for somebody?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because at first, you're thinking of bringing in someone to help with the past rush, but now, that might not even be the biggest missing piece here on this defense, you know, Tatum soon, you know, is kind of the guy right now as we saw

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[SPEAKER_00]: The past rush also was not there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: McCall Williams did get his mic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did get his first sack, which was great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they also, maybe the biggest play of the game is Baker, it was like a 3rd and 17 or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they have them dead to rights, like two times, and he still runs for the first down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was all defensive line and not being able to tackle a quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do wonder if they change their mind on giving up some future assets to bring in somebody for one year, because I think your whole calculus changes with the loss of Fred Warner on what you think that your team can become.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe that I've always felt that this team is not good enough to be, we are past, I believe we are past, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: giving up future assets for this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just don't think we're that good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they need every dark throw that they can get for the next two or three years to just replenish the cupboard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because as we have said, we we knew coming into the season that if you were going to try to trick yourself,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And to this team being some sort of contender, one of the tent poles was that all of those guys that you just mentioned, all of the guys that we paid, they had to be there and play well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then hopefully we could get some help from some of the rookies and some of the second year players

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[SPEAKER_01]: All of that had to happen for, but all that had to happen for us to get to four and one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Basically, Fred played out of his mind.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got a lot more out of Mac than I'm sure we could have ever imagined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it just seemed like we were on borrowed time and I hated to be that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, it did not surprise me that it's good as well as he even had some he had health roles today, but at some point, you know, Mac, Michael was going to turn into a pumpkin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's because he is just in my opinion, and I don't think it's just an opinion, he is a quarterback from a bygone era.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You just, if you watched the games all over the weekend,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you can't, you know, Joe Flacco aside, you can't find statues in the pocket.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You have to have a certain level of mobility to play this game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There were several plays that, you know, there were at least one touchdown down down there on the goal line where it opens up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Brock could have ran that in, but there was no one hell Mac was going to be able to do that even healthy now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I, you know, I, I give him some grace because he is he's battling injuries too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's, you know, like you say, he's a tough guy, but even healthy, he is just not athletic enough to be anybody's, you know,

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[SPEAKER_01]: he's a bridge quarterback at best because you nobody's going to pay him $181 million to be there starter because you just again for the same reason I was had this argument they are you know they're literally have been 17 that saw nothing to preseason to call and kick the tires for the chargers with train lands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because of the same reason he went third in a draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has the skill set that teams are looking for.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just not McDonalds anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you, or ever, it's just you just can't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You, you have guys like Jackson Dart have a better chance of getting shots because of the mobility aspect that they bring to the game that they're willing to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: wait on whatever he's going to become as a pastor because he can get them out into an out of good into good positions out of bad positions with their mobility and that's just something that you're never going to get from Matt no matter how well he's spinning.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I do wonder I have to imagine some of the calculus or some of the decision making for the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Brock can help us with protection because of his fight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you do have a lesser than offensive line and we saw that today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Dominic Pony was a he was a sled in in in in in in some of those moments right like he's just getting push right back into the quarterback Colton McKinvits.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think even Tony Romo singled him out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's just like he's got flat out beat on the outside like he's nothing else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's a not great not great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is part of the reason why we never thought that they were going to be a Super Bowl contender is because push comes to shove the offensive line was not going to be able to hold up and they have not this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have not held up at all and it's really been big plays and big throws that is kind of kept them in the game on some of these moments like I was saying last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like Connor Colby's head getting pushed all the way back like necks are not supposed to work that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was that was just the defensive line dominant and off the line.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you look at that box defensive line and you're like, oh, I know it's all about Baker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone wants Baker to be the MVP.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Baker was not the most impressive part of that team to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Baker was fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Baker is probably good enough as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: their defensive lines ability to just move the 49ers backwards whenever they wanted.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when the Niners were in distress, there was a timely blitz coming that Mac could just not see or feel because he's so worried about the front four getting in and thus you created this

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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of it, like it's funny because when I'm watching football with crystal with my wife, you know, if you watch football enough, you can almost be the color commentator at times because you're because you're seeing things that that the announcers are seeing and you're saying things that the announcers are saying and there were a couple moments in early in the game where I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's holding the ball way too long and this is going to be a problem, you know, soon, sooner than later, and man, that it was just, there was just nothing that he could do, I mean, maybe he could, I mean, he tried and, you know, he gets called for grounding because he tries to get the ball out and there's no receivers there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the box ability on I thought both lines of scrimmage, they kind of dominated white looked amazing in this game, but it was almost like Emmett Smith in this prime where he would get the hand off and there would be a good yard and a half or two yards before you've been saw red jersey.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like they blocked those four yards.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He just, they, the offensive line created that space.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then after that, it's, you know, whatever you, that's where you judge the back on whatever they were able to get after that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they were just moving us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that, you know, it's just so demoralizing for us for us to get done like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how, that's where we're supposed to be done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they, and they,

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[SPEAKER_00]: There was a stat that they said, they have had three different right guards this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like, you know, they're, they are this built up, you know, offensive line that, that is the, you know, 1992 Dallas Cowboys revisited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a lot of these teams have the same problems as the Niners, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They just, right, you know, they don't have it on a depth.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what changes the dynamic for the

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[SPEAKER_00]: to block the Niners and the Niners to not be able to block for the buck block the bucks because Christian did not have a good running game again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He just created there was no daylight whatsoever for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's really they're not doing him any favors and the runs that he makes are just the opposite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: of runs where it's blocked up for and it's deep their runs it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is basically creating his own space and lanes just by how good he is, you know, the notion that somehow he's lost a step is nonsense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is playing great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, absolutely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I don't want to to really be so dramatic or so negative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, this was a game that I kind of sort of expected them to lose.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But M.D.s is in the chat he and Sheldon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And M.D.s said they need a defense of tackles to help with the loss of Fred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I saw that was Cowell Comedy's piece as well, which is

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, how do you, how do you support Fred in this moment?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you just kind of play like hell on defense and just bring out the best of yourself.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if that's possible, but they do have a malignant stuff with it was back today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they do have some people on that defense, but I think it's going to be more along the lines of they kind of sort of need to

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[SPEAKER_00]: grow up together live in games because they're so young and they have so many different pieces that then in the past and the reason why you're kind of comfortable with that is because you had Fred, you had Fred leading there and he was making sure everybody was was doing the right thing and now you don't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that now that falls on Bethune shoulders,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there was a couple times where he was he was in a pass protect or he was in a past defense and you know, it wasn't fantastic as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He saw the back of his jersey a couple times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I don't know, I don't know what it is as far as the defense is concerned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: At least from the offense of perspective, we go, okay, we know Brock's coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know kiddos coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I use coming back pretty ricky, hopefully is coming back and then you move.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Joanne or you could just give Joanne a little bit of time to heal, but you move him ridiculous.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's ridiculous that he's playing with if it if that's true that he's playing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I broke her ribs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of hope he was overstating it because I just feel like that's just terrible to put a man on the field who is in that much pain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, that doesn't make sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I hope he was talking over stating it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Get out there and play whatever shots or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's got a goodness.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's that's, it's, you know, the old Ricky Waters for who for what I mean, it's just that is, you know, that's going, I mean, I respect it, but it's kind of going above and beyond.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have, I subscribe to a couple of sub-stacks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: both trenches, type, pod, I mean, sub-stack, and he talked about our young guys, Collins and West particularly, how, and Williams too, how,

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are not showing up in the box court at all.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The vans that are all three of them are terrible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like amongst the worst in the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you watch the film, you're seeing some good things from them, by case and point, the strips that, I mean, the strip from Alpha Collins last week, that they're doing good things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to just who your point with Fred gone,

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[SPEAKER_01]: those things need to start translating into statistical improvement.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We can't just be that, oh, look how he split that double team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if he doesn't make a play afterwards, that really doesn't do us any good at this point anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: was talking about how, you know, D winners, he was one of the best past defenders in the league the first three weeks and the injury, it has been a precipitous drop for him after the injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it could be just simply, he's just not healthy and that, you know, could be part of the reason why he had been as effective the past several weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, I don't know

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[SPEAKER_01]: without it's not like we've got a buy anytime soon.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's like he's just going to have to suck it up and play continue to play injured, um, it's, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's really, really, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: frustrating, you know, after this, you know, this good start, I always start and try to kind of believe in a skeptical all along that I didn't think this was a very good football team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw the vision that you just put up the tent poles and hope, you know, the combination of solid and channel and they bring the rookie's along and everybody continues to get better and, you know, we

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're just kind of still hanging around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know, it's, you know, especially after the day that's, that's even with all these other guys offensively coming back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're both in Williams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, Warner not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a tough sell in, you know, come on now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nobody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're gonna even if they decide that we're gonna trade for somebody.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's nobody just gonna replace those two guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just, you know, replacing Bolsa.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you could convince yourself somehow that they could get trade hindricks in or, you know, the names, the usual suspects, the names that are floating around the 39.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I wasn't too jazz about that one, but it's just, I just don't, I just think that that is throwing good money after bad at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do want to shout out, you know, we've been, how can you not talk about a lot of the bad things that happened in this game, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh had another huge game today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I think he is kind of singled out as not doing the proper thing on the first interception, but ultimately had a fantastic outing and

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, there's definitely some chemistry there with him and Mac and it's almost like it's almost like it's almost like he only really trust to people or the ball to Mac or CMC But CABY has probably extended his career here and I think like if when when

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[SPEAKER_00]: I get comes back when Ricky comes back, Jordan Watkins hasn't even played yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been an active every single game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you think about Valdez, Scanling.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they already let go some of the older receivers in camp in the preseason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Born is probably sticking around like he's got to because he's been able to make some plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm not sure exactly how they're going to handle that scenario, but you know, sky more catching puns at the one yard line and trying to run them out, I don't think that bodes well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for his longevity here, but then again, who do they have to return kicks and punts?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe you just find somebody who is already on the active roster, but yeah, I think KB may probably made it pretty hard for decision-making as far as who sticks around when they get a lot of their players back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: then also obviously I'm not by any means saying that he should take any kind of snaps or targets from kiddo, but you got to find, you got to find snaps retonges at this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's just he has shown

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[SPEAKER_01]: himself to be a reliable target as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be interesting to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I think that that becomes pretty easy that, you know, Pharaoh has kind of probably lost his snaps in that scenario.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's a great the biggest free agent contract of the offseason.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right, but I'm interested to see I think that there is some game planning that can be done with both conscious and kiddo on the field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, I'm sure the I'm sure Shanna hand is thinking about the looks with both of them at the same time, what you could do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I like I'm envisioning like this, you know, I'm thinking like mad and footballer something, but I'm envisioning

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, Tom just running that little screen that he runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they kind of fake it to him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then George is just downfield, you know, trucking it like I can see I can see stuff that they do with both of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it probably will help the running game if they if they do have that two tight ends set more than with George back, I think that will be that will be kind of interesting

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just hope that what doesn't happen is we go back to the way it was a couple of years ago where George coming back, he just becomes like a six Lyme and I just think we miss something when he is not able to be a enemy, he's great at that role and I'm sure, my chives doesn't doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't feel bad about that at all when he's over there on his side, um, but it's just we lose something of our explosiveness when, um, I know as a defense, it feels like we're kind of as a, as I feel like we're taking the defense off the hook when we make George alignment as opposed to

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, I don't think they will use him in spots where, you know, he starts off as a blocker.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then he releases I could see lots of stuff like that because that they may just need that mean we saw it in a super bowl where this do that to stay in on some stuff because they could not block for you just don't trust you can trust you could trust but give it no M.D.s says do we trust Kyle to make the decisions?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we are a pretty pro-kile podcast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know there are other conversations about Kyle and whether or not he's good, you know, a clutch coach or whatever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he does have a lot of responsibility with this roster and he's, you know, I'm sure he's thinking of right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, okay, we're gonna get Kittle back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you know, how do we plan for that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And do we get pretty Ricky back and how do we plan for that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do trust Kyle to make those personnel decision especially on offense so much.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I got my Shannon hat here, my Kyle coaches hat for whatever reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every single hat that Kyle has has come out with and been on the sidelines.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so hard to find.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got so lucky finding this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I jumped on a website and saw it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I looked again to get one for my dad and nope, I'll sold out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what if for whatever reason?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, maybe Kyle's a good model or something he should ask for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He should ask for some cash for these hats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I trust, especially when it comes to the offense,

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows that they're going to get out of it, but, you know, and this kind of goes back to the defense thing, you have guys that they drafted Nick Martin has not played.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not been active in the game yet, and it's a healthy scratch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, with with the Fred out, I don't know who comes in as a depth linebacker, but, um, you know, he is, he has not been active.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jordan James has not been active, supposedly practicing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there are guys that you kind of wonder about who, um, Jordan Watkins as well, another

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can you even trust those guys to come in and play smart because now you're playing without Fred and Nick you're kind of playing behind the apel a little bit maybe there's even more urgency.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe that is why you would just, you know, you kind of red shirt walkins and you're like, no, we got KB like he's producing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We trust him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if we trust him or on the right route every time, but we trust him to make these catches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so you kind of wonder, you know, this, at least from that perspective, does someone like a Jordan walkins?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does he just get red shirted because they have not put him on the field yet?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it only is going to get crazier with the loss of two to just fantastic defense of players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You're maybe your two best players on the entire team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is to to M. D's is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is more what I kind of wonder about is the personnel decisions as it pertains to the future versus kind of like you kind of have to play when now with these veterans like Rod called them tent poles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've called them stars and scrubs like they have they specifically probably believe they have a two year window max.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so now do you want to

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[SPEAKER_00]: window one and make it a one year window next next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just glad I don't have to make that decision.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, two things to MD's question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am firmly anybody who's listening to this podcast or any amount of time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I am firmly a Jim's and Joe's over x is an old guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I am one who overall thinks that coaching is kind of overrated.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I can say, and that for one start, there are both examples that you can point to where both Kyle and Soler made calls that swung games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and especially in Solvers case, where

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[SPEAKER_01]: Obviously, he had for it, which he was a great eraser, but he may call us both in that Saints game, and then there was one other game specifically that he called a perfect blitz at the

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just, I have to say that they both have made great God been very impressed with both of their coaching this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because honestly, even before the all the slew of injuries, I just, I didn't just didn't think that there was, we were,

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[SPEAKER_01]: as talented as everybody else thought.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was pleasantly surprised, especially on the defensive side of the ball because I'm looking at these advanced stats and outside of Fred and Nick, everybody else is just awful, but somehow at the end of the game, we've won and the defense has made

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[SPEAKER_01]: significant place that led to the win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you have to, I have to tip my cap in those cases to the coaching because there's like, you know, there's no way in hell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Swordsman makes that call, you know, is, you know, so there is more to it than I like to give credit for with these two guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I guess we can look forward the falcons are next and the falcons have the there's two Monday night games tomorrow So the falcons play Buffalo good luck to Atlanta.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I will say with that one

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and then the Niners, the Niners get them next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I'm a nice couple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, Buffalo, Buffalo and then the Niners get them Sunday night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, what's kind of, what's kind of interesting is the Niners had, they played Thursday last week, which meant they had an extra couple of days to get healthy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they did not actually get healthy with those extra couple of days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: they can bring some guys back and and Sunday night it is a it's a big game you know they are at the type of team that kind of gets up for these big games at his at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way, I was actually surprised how well the nine revenge traveled in Tampa Bay today too because.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And one of the ways that you can check is when a use check gets a touch and you can hear the juice chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, whoa, in Tampa Bay, although in Tampa Bay, I'm here in the juice chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So chat out to nine or fans, traveling nine or fans who who definitely traveled out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, the Falcons are exactly what you thought the Falcons were.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There are 500 team around that, depending on the week, better or worse than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the the Niners if if the Niners are a good team they win this game at home on Sunday night and if they're closer to an average team than this this thing might go might be closer to going down to the wire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now this may be a little bit of kind of reactive, but what I'm going to say, but I kind of think the the word is out on what you need to do to, you know, to silence the 49ers offense in a sense with Mac Jones as the quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so if you get Brock back, you get pretty Ricky back, you get George back next week against the Falcons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I hope that we're going to just see a much faster offense out there and further, if you can open up the passing game, just a tiny bit, then I think we see CMC get his freak on a little bit more in the running game because they're, you know, right now, if you are a defensive coordinator,

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[SPEAKER_00]: your mentality is like, okay, we want to stop CMC no matter what, first and foremost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're like, if Mac throws for 350, like so like that, just maybe what we have to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think they're comfortable with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're comfortable with Mac throw in 45 times and on the flip side, Shannon is probably not comfortable with that, but just having to live with it

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what I hope is that they're able to get back to what they like to do, which is more of that 50 50 split.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know that they can do that without the personnel coming back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I think next week is going to be key as far as guys getting healthy, and who knows the one that's so hard to understand is Ricky, because

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, these injuries, you can you see him on the field and you see what he does well and you see what he adds to the offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then one or two times a game, he comes up and it looks like he's in pain in your life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know how to think about him as far as longevity is concerned as far as somebody that you can count on lining up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not that I want him to be injured in any way, because I do think he's a really, really strong young player, but is he reliable?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's the other thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So once if you can tell me that those guys are back,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that at least this next week at home against the Falcons, I do think they bounce back in it in a pretty strong way, at least offensively, and that might be enough to beat the Falcons.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I don't know that I can make that prediction.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if it's Mac and no George and no Ricky.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's going to be key for me to determine whether or not they go Sunday night and win the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, my concern is it is even more highlighted now with the fact that Warner's not going to be there is what are we going to do with B-shar?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because, you know, if you we saw what Rashad writing Tucker were doing, this guy is, um, he's a problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he is definitely a problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think we need to get this one because these next two weeks,

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[SPEAKER_01]: aren't going to be pretty from a defensive standpoint because both the Giants and the Texans Texans have been kind of up and down offensively, but their Demiico's defense is scary.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are really good, and the Giants are really good, and they are both of them are good in places that

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[SPEAKER_01]: or our weakness, which obviously upfront, their front sevens are both stellar.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And obviously, that's our problem.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So again, we got a national spotlight.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope we can get it together, go ahead and get this win.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm hopeful that we can do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hope that we can do that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can't say that I'm hopeful because this is going to be, I think that we're going to be feeling this spread loss for a minute.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have to take some regrouping and talk about coaching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think this is where it's going to show up because that's a huge loss for us.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was it's crazy to think that, you know, he was playing with, you know, they say he was playing with a fractured ankle last year and he's only missed up to this point.

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[SPEAKER_01]: One game in his career.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if that was the same foot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: God, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was thinking about that right when I saw the ankle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, Oh, gosh, I wonder if it's the same foot and just playing on that bad ankle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, may have made it a little bit more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, easier to hurt again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't even want to think about that because I don't know, but I don't know if I want it to be if he would he want it to be the same foot or the other foot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what you know right exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, if for the other one to be bad to now, I don't know that like you said, it's as crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's end with this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What do you, like, what do

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[SPEAKER_00]: That 49ers have like the historic record of not having interceptions in the most consecutive games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is this because, you know, they had Bosa in the first couple of games here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's not like they had no pass rush.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are young secondary, but this goes into last year as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What does it say about their defense that they cannot create turnovers in the secondary?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, because I know that there have been a couple that have been dropped, but it's not like it was like some sort of statistical anomaly that it was like we're dropping, you know, the ball is hitting our hands and we've just dropped, you know, this, you know, outrageous number of it is just like we really haven't, it didn't feel like we've had a lot of opportunities and that is, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what's the cause for concern is because you can make the case that all turnovers are kind of there's a there's a variance to that but you know there's something to be said about not even getting your hands on the ball yeah that you know and I'm not sophisticated enough to know where the

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[SPEAKER_01]: the blame lies no more than I know the structure of this defense has always been up front first in the pressure kind of creates the turnover opportunities and you know the the drop in

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, for I think Fred probably is the one who gets the closest to these intersections.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had one yesterday last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He dropped one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's, it just makes you wonder how much of this is luck versus coverage skill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever it is, like they're just not, I agree with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just haven't seen the opportunities there to where we saw very clearly in this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Both interceptions were according to Tony Romo because Tampa Bay disguised their coverage very well and the 49ers like Mac Jones just fell for the banana and the tailpipe like two times and so

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what, what are the 49ers not doing in those scenarios if this is like a, this is like what you can do to, you know, maybe trick the quarterback a little bit, but all right, sacred intuition has a new nickname for a Jake bundle by the way, you'll like this one Jake Benchill.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I do's who are the guys, you know, the, the statistical.

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[SPEAKER_01]: analysis guys who would try to because he's been trying to convince me for the past year and a half that the numbers say Jake Brandel is a good player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I can't I can't I'm not one who brails and argues against the statistics, but man, I know I watched the games and I watched the all 22 and I just they're just so many times where he just seems overmatched physically.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for me to just like, that's one thing to me and John Chapman agree on is that, you know, deliver me from this Jake Brindle is a good player, not sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just, it's just not true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't care what statistical K-HU are able to make.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watch the games and he's just not good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, so next weekend, Niner's place Sunday night, uh, are we, you want to go live after the game Sunday night?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would like to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the plan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Shout out to the folks hanging out with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, I know we recorded later tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's that's on me because I've had some weekend, uh, Sunday night plans of late, which are ending, by the way, uh, after next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But shout out to Shelvin, shout out to MD, sacred intuition, love having y'all in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This was not meant to be a sort of doomsday kind of podcast, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's just you have to talk about the reality in situation when you lose probably your two best players on your team in

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[SPEAKER_01]: won't you can make the case that Warner is one of the best players in the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's just it is a blow and you know again I.

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[SPEAKER_01]: kind of do buy the cool aid on or drink the cool aid on some of those cliches and I think he is the emotional engine of that defense for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so you know replacing him isn't just as simple as, you know, the cliche and next man up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's he's running a lot playing middle line backer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: right absolutely and those kind of guys you don't just there is no next man behind them to who's just gonna fill that void it's just you know we have to be realistic about that I mean obviously there's gonna be a game next week and somebody's gonna be at has to go out there and take those snaps but um it's just you know it's going to be different it's going to be different

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[SPEAKER_00]: for the fans for all of us, you know, they can get some pieces back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this team could look a little bit more at least offensively like what we hoped because that might be the thing is that the challenge might just be, it is time to dominate time of possession and just outscore these other teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That might be the way they have to play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to have to do

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know make a call or two here and there to get key stops every time they blitz it feels like it's a touch on the other side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just dumb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe don't let me make my list up to stop, maybe let's maybe try to give those come to some of those blisters to number six now that he's back because we'll be back next week for rod.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am double GC when we see you piece out.