Aug. 29, 2025

Valkyries Playoff Push & Warriors Offseason Standoff: Analyzing Kuminga, Free Agents & The Draft | Golden State Hoop

Valkyries Playoff Push & Warriors Offseason Standoff: Analyzing Kuminga, Free Agents & The Draft | Golden State Hoop

On this episode of Golden State Hoop, host Garrett Gonzales welcomes special guest Conrado Pascual and they dive deep into the critical moments for both the Golden State Valkyries and Warriors. The show kicks off with an in-depth breakdown of the Valkyries' inaugural season playoff race, highlighting their must-win games this weekend against the Washington Mystics and Indiana Fever to secure a historic postseason berth. The hosts recap the crucial victory over the Dallas Wings, discuss the latest injury updates on Cecilia Zandalasini, Monique Billings, and Tiffany Hayes, and analyze the team’s upcoming draft and expansion draft scenarios.

The conversation then shifts to the Golden State Warriors' stalled offseason. Gonzales and Pascual discuss the ongoing contract standoff with Jonathan Kuminga and how it's impacting the team's ability to pursue key free agents. They explore the rumored targets, including Malik Beasley, Seth Curry, De'Anthony Melton, Cody Martin, and Al Horford, and speculate on the likelihood of a Gary Payton II return. The episode concludes with their instant analysis of the Warriors' 2025 draft picks, Alex Toohey and Will Richard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Alright, we are back with Golden State hoop, our new rebranding of the Valkyries and Warriors podcast.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As you can tell, if you're watching on video, Brian is out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Brian's actually hanging out in Hawaii, man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He left me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's out in about

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[SPEAKER_02]: he's uh, relax and max and relax and in Hawaii.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So in order to continue this Valkyries, this new Valkyries warriors, uh, one shop podcast theme, I had to bring back Canrado Pascal because not only is Canrado a giant WMBA fan, but he's also, uh, a big warriors fan, big NBA fan, and he follows both teams very closely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it fits perfectly with what we try to do here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Canrado, what is up my friend?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm good.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm great.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, happy Friday to everyone.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know it's the long weekend, Labor Day weekend.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, you know, I think we're hitting the final stretch of the WNBA regular season and as it pertains to like teams like our Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's a playoff push probably till the final day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I look forward to kind of diving in to talking to all things Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is what what are we seven games left for the Valkyries in the regular season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think something like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, seven and there's two big games this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This schedule is so funky.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They pretty much had the week off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then they play back to back at home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So Saturday, which I am attempting to go to though, I was talking to Colorado before we started recording.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The tickets are not inexpensive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would say compared to warriors tickets anywhere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're still not at that level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Warriors tickets are kind of insane, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, you're spending a pretty penny to go to Valkyries games these days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good for them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Good for the market.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're popular.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're selling out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All of those things are positive, but, you know, just just waking up in the morning and going like, huh, I kind of just want to go to the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know you got to plan a little bit ahead these days, but Washington on Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Indiana on Sunday still doesn't look like Caitlin's playing as far as I know sounds like the I know their head coach had said they they want her to actually go through full contact practice before she can get back on the court and as far as I know that hasn't happened yet.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, if anything, the Indiana fever coaching staff, they have been very, very consistent in saying that Caitlin remains without any timeline for return.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't, I'm an optimistic guy by nature, but usually like when it's worded that way,

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[SPEAKER_03]: like they're really kind of preparing fans for the possibility that she may not return, you know, the season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, I don't know, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm not, that's probably more speculation on my part, but it's just like certain wording, you know, it's not really day to day, you know, there's no real update about like ramping up her on-court activities.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, yeah, not only do I think she'll,

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[SPEAKER_03]: likely be out this Sunday against Golden State.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wouldn't be surprised, right, if they sat around.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I mean, it seems like she's just recurred.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I come kind of re-ingerating or re-ingering.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We aggravating the same injuries.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, obviously, yeah, do what's best for her career long term.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's got to be frustrating for her and for the team because I mean, we're seeing it with with Paige right now, which is the college season ends.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You immediately go to the draft and then your WMBA season doesn't start that, you know, it starts pretty soon after.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Last year Kate and Lynn went through that whole thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Then she had the off season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And all we read about about that was, okay, she needs to get her body rate for the, you know, for the rigors of the WMBA season, more physical game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She got to get stronger.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she does that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yet now is when the injuries happen versus last year when she was kind of running on fumes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's kind of weird.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, you try to do your best to prepare for these situations, both individually and collectively, but I mean like it's not like one injury has affected another like other players injuries, but I mean it's just how did this like kind of

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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, not necessarily related, but it's almost like a domino effect, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're bringing in more players, shuffling the roster, bringing in replacement players.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Those replacement players get hurt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They bring in additional replacement players.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Those replacement players get hurt.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I definitely feel for Caitlin and the entire team.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there's just, you know, I think they really were looking to build upon the momentum from last season and to establish even more chemistry

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[SPEAKER_03]: and consistency, you know, based on what they had kind of laid the groundwork last year, but it's just, it hasn't come to fruition for all those, all those reasons.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now as we head into this, these weekend games, I was trying to figure out, I'll say, okay, the Valkyries that home are at home.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have the back to back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: At least,

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[SPEAKER_02]: As far as I can tell, the mystics nor the fever have back to back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So actually being the home team here is through the detriment of the Valkyries because they have the back to back and not the road teams who come in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the fever actually plays tonight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The the mystics.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me see if I can figure this out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The mystics play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, they're next game is the Valkyrie's game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have a back to back against the spark.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So after the Valkyrie's so Sunday, so the Valkyrie's are at the disadvantage here at home after having been off a week, at least when it comes to the back to the back to the back to back to back to back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The WMB schedule is so funky to me.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't understand how it works.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I think moving forward, especially with the addition of, you know, two more expansion teams and more coming in the next few seasons.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the league office, they really do need to do a better job of scheduling.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I understand that, you know, let's be real, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of times how you schedule your home in a way games is based on, you know, the availability of the venue, like, you know, are their concerts happening or there's some kind of other, you know, event.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But it makes no sense, especially like when you have the team like traveling like across the country, like you go for like one game and then you come back, you know, you go from coast to coast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They are like the balconies have done that multiple times of season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It makes no sense.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you'll come out for like one game against New York and then you're all the way back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: to California and then you play like one game and then you're on the road again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I mean, I think moving forward, you know, as this league is growing and there's more popularity, you want to see your stars play, you know, that's not to say like baby them, but at the same time, like

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[SPEAKER_03]: you know, they need to be available and you need to control what you can control.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And as you said, right, controlling the travel schedule for these players is probably paramount for the league success or one of the factors that will.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So where do you sit with what you expect out of this team throughout the rest of the season?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just giving out just their next five games at the Chase Center.

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[SPEAKER_02]: As we said, mystics on Saturday, fever on Sunday, mystics have been struggling of late though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They have such great young talent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think they've played devalcrease fairly well, though, the valkyries have, I think the valkyries have beat them every single time, but every time I see Sonya citron with the ball, I'm like, why is no one guarding her?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, she's she's ready to put it up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then after that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then then the fever on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Tuesday they go into New York.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now New York is not the same New York, but I believe Brad Stewart is back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're figuring out kind of their playoff push rotation, you know, adding me some in like we had said last time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know they're still having these injuries here and there with with Jones and such.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and then Thursday Dallas again so they that was the last game they beat Dallas in Dallas and you know at that they got a nice lead in the Dallas made a little comeback they actually guarded page very well page was all that game shooting wise and so that was a that was a good one in a great game for Veronica Burton who will talk about and then Saturday next Saturday at chase again against Minnesota who they've played

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[SPEAKER_02]: They've been game against Minnesota, but there's definitely a difference in the talent at the team level for those two teams.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's good challenge whenever you can measure up against the best team in the WMBA.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So those are the next five.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What is your expectation for the Valkyries who currently sit in the last and eight spot in Playoff Race?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So expectation and what I think needs to happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think

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[SPEAKER_03]: I expect them to win at least two.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm hoping they will win three of those next five games.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, if let's be real, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Assuming New York and Minnesota are going to play like, um,

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're they're best available lineups because you know, some people are still ending out with injuries.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They will be heavy favorites in those matchups.

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[SPEAKER_03]: As it stands right now, we are right the early early odds.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Valkyries are favored against the mystics, the fever, even against the back of the back, you know, and against the Dallas wings.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they need to win all three.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If they're very adamant, obviously the organization coaching staff, the players, they are very adamant about wanting to make the playoffs this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I set from the start of the season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Someone spitballing and also kind of running some steps to fiscal projections.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we're probably like, I think any team that wanted to make the playoffs this season, you'd probably have to win at least twenty two games.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You have to go five hundred.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So right now we're at nineteen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Unfortunately, we have tie breakers over the sparks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have tie breaker over currently have a tie breaker over the Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, if we could win those next three, I think will at least make the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I feel good about like to get to twenty two.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Now, obviously, they're going to want to go finish this season with the highest seed possible.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's where it gets interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Minnesota at this point, I think health is not to get completely ahead of ourselves.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think, because I believe after this Minnesota game, we play them one more time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's actually the regular season finale for the balconies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Minnesota, they've already clinched their playout spot a long time ago.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not sure what their magical number is to clinch the number one seed.

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[SPEAKER_03]: but they're not too far away, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: They still have a sizable gap on the number two seed, I believe Las Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'm saying, the spurging ace is man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The spurging ace, I know, what a difference.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Last time you and I got together, we were talking about like, oh my God, are they really in like, you know, is their death will make the playoffs?

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[SPEAKER_03]: But going back to it, like, towards the end of the season, some of those teams like the links, if they're well already clinched their playoff spot, they may kind of be, you know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: kind of just going through the motions on that final game of the season, like they may, you know, kind of rest some of their stars might give the balance right a little advantage in trying to steal one more win towards the end of the year, but we can't bank on that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I would say these next five games, they really got to do what they can to get three wins.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I don't, I mean, I'll be real.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've said it from the start.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like we just do not match up well against the links in the liberty.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We have played them very well, but you see like it comes to like a certain point where

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[SPEAKER_03]: kind of like the scheming, the strategizing hits a limit and the talent of the liberty and the links respectively just kind of take over, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where like they have too many like primary options that like, there's only so much.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think the value is can do to contain those teams attacks.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So yeah, I'm kind of hoping that they can pick up three wins in the next five games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you were to make a prediction,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do they make the playoffs?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Brian on this show last time said he's locking it in.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He thinks based on how the scenarios are playing out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He thinks that the very least of Alcres are eight.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you look at the standings, there is a clear path for them to get to six all depending on

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[SPEAKER_02]: how the fever play because there are, you know, that whole from six and below is very close.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, if you play consistently, like I think what you're suggesting is you're probably in, you're out if you just

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[SPEAKER_02]: get, you know, if you just come across a crazy losing streak, but as you see with the ACEs, if you could get on a little bit of a run, it is quick moving through the standings.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So the Valkyries, if they could get on a run, they could very clearly get to the sixth slot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I do believe they will still, they will qualify for the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: What seed that's TBD?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I actually do agree with Brian.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know if we'll be as high as six, but I could see seven.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, we do directly control our fate in certain scenarios, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: We play Seattle one more time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, there you go, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: That could totally determine not only making the playoffs, but you know, you can kind of solidify yourself as a seven seed at that point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, fortunately, it sounds like, um, you know, tip-hays, cartilage, uh, Monique Billings, they've returned to practice.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I believe, I believe they've been at least been practicing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know what their availability is for tomorrow, but at least I think we can expect some of our key rotation players to return.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I mean, yeah, barring any additional injuries.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, I would say that we're going to make the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess we should also mention that they re-signed Bree Hall, who I was the last time that I was at Ballhalla was against Connecticut and she scored her first WNVB bucket, which was a really fun moment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's good to see her back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I guess Zandela Sini I think is a little bit of like a, if she can get healthy,

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is a, there's something there for a late season run that stabilizes that team and that makes me like very confident, but without her, you're expecting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: players like Kate Martin to come in and shoot from the outside, Kayla Charles to shoot from the outside, and they're clearly just not the kind of shooters that Zandalist seniors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The calf injuries are kind of funky man.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She's got, I think she's been dealing with this for a little while now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Some of it is probably just tread on the tires, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: with the uprise and Achilles injuries these days.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It is something to not take lightly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have no idea what her prospect or her perspective is when it comes to this injury.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, they again, also they have not really indicated any time table or status.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She just continues that she is she's out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I hope she returns.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that, okay, it's kind of

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[SPEAKER_03]: ironic, make no mistake.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not like, in no way am I happy or pleased that any of our other players got injured, but realistically, Chetchy entered the starting lineup.

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[SPEAKER_03]: because Monique Billings went down, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And at one point, they were doing kind of like, okay, we had like our big lineup where we went Billings and Temi in the front court.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She went down.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, obviously, KT was already out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, Zandalasini entered the lineup.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And in my opinion, I really think that Chechi,

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[SPEAKER_03]: and Janelle kind of like unlocked each other's games.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I know a lot of people like, okay, they just each of them kind of just needed to regain their rhythm, kind of recuperate from Eurobasket, which is very well true.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think the two of them, I think Natalie found a way where like they basically run identical sets.

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[SPEAKER_03]: for each other, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You say who's the small Ford?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Who's the power Ford?

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they truly are interchangeable from possession to possession, you know?

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[SPEAKER_03]: they have like given they're both of them very very proficient you know in the mid range all of like the flex action the flex cuts that they're running just like like a two player game was really effective and then you start to see like Janelle getting to early rhythm like there was that stretch right where she was just like on fire seemingly every game right first quarter getting early rhythm

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're setting drag screens for each other, which is a big thing, you know, because now each of them are basically just stepping into shots.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And you know how deadly, both of them are in transition with their quick releases.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Janelle, too, her credit has still been very good in Zandalistini's absence.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think that brought an element where finally the Valkyrie's offense was truly clicking.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And frankly, like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they would have stuck with that lineup even once Monique Billings comes back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And frankly, I think that's better.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think Monique has to be like our backup five.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think she's best suited as a backup five.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I think at that point, you know, they're not neither of them are probably very ball handlers, but you're starting to see their their comfortability and their proficiency with like their dribble handoff game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And, you know, Kate

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[SPEAKER_03]: Kate is kind of being developed as like Chechie's backup.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she can run some of those sets, but she doesn't again, as you said, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: She can't like quite step into her threes the same way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she can't flare into the corner.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, so that kind of limits the types of look she can get off, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Otherwise you're just kind of like hoisting something up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So which sometimes it looks like she's doing just to she's like, okay, I'm here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm getting the ball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I need to shoot this and it does look like a hoist sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: there definitely there are times there are times I admire that she doesn't has a taste yeah I also do think that there could be a little bit more of a middle ground where maybe you could be a little bit more patient or judicious but see that's the thing actually I was actually thinking about that before we got on the air and I know Kate Martin took a lot of criticism for that one game where I think she like

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[SPEAKER_03]: When four of sixteen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to put them up, man.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Put them up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She put them up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and, you know, I think some people kind of said like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: She may have shot us out of the game.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But if you really look at some of those threes, a lot of them were actually created.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was again, a lot of the action that Janelle and Chetchi would run together, where Chetchi will set a screen on the left low block.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then Janelle will cut baseline to basically suck in three defenders.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then she's going to kick it out to the deep left corner.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I kind of understand where Kate was doing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's like, if I'm passing it, I'm passing it back into traffic.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is the most open shot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I get it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just at that point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't know how many players we even had that day.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like seven, someone's got to think of it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm not as, I'm not going to be as hard on her for that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I do agree that like there is.

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[SPEAKER_03]: some middle ground, kind of like some happy medium that she could find moving forward, where maybe she actually could become a more consistent rotation player.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, obviously, if Zanilisini returns, that's probably not, it's a good conversation, at least for this post-usin.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right, right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk a little bit about Veronica Burton, who has really come on of late and

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[SPEAKER_02]: my favorite player to watch on the Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she's like she's such a leader on the court.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Of course, she plays point guard and she can calm this offense down and I had Marcus Thompson from the athletic because a great piece on her today, a little bit of a profile that kind of gives you a little bit of insight into who Veronica Burton is and it was really really cool to see to read that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think she has overexcited expectations of who she was going to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And now you have people talking like, well, maybe she is the point card of the future and you, you know, you can

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[SPEAKER_02]: put pieces around her or around the team knowing that you don't necessarily need a star point guard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You may have one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You may have a point guard who is going to grow and blossom into an all-star player.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about Veronica?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I am probably leaning more towards that sentiment of she is this franchise's point guard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: During, after the time of the expansion draft, I was really high on this selection of Veronica Burton, but even then, I'm with you, my expectation for her and my assessment of what her ceiling could be has she's absolutely exceeded everything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I wasn't even sure that she really is a point guard, not to be like a traditionalist in the basketball sense,

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, my co-host of East meets West, and he has followed Veronica Burton's basketball career, like going back to her prep days.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He was all like, I don't know, maybe she's like more of like a high-end combo guard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, I don't know, she should actually be a team's primary, a ball handle or primary facilitator, playmaker.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh my God, like she's absolutely emerged as one of the best peer point guards in the league.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I mean, I truly have a sense of security.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I feel a sense of security when she handles the ball.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Frankly, when she turns it over, I'm shocked.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Which is a good thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's how rare she makes quality decisions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I'm kind of the check, but I believe she's like what the she has a third best assistant turnover ratio.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She is amongst the league leaders in double digit assist games, multiple

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[SPEAKER_03]: double digit assist games without a single turnover.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, that's pretty crazy.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Given that like she's her usage, her minutes played.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, as you said, she has absolutely exceeded every possible expectation to the point where I'm with you.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It kind of really does again, not to get ahead of ourselves, but moving forward for the front office.

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[SPEAKER_03]: how they want to continue building this roster, because I mean, I would have, I definitely would have advocated like, you know, in the middle of the season or early in the season, just given the way she was playing, we should protect Veronica Pernt in this expansion draft.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But now there's a difference just like, oh, we're protecting her and no, no, no, no, no, like you're actually like, you're a core, you're like, you're a foundational piece, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I still do believe that she has some some limitations in terms of shock creation off the dribble, but I mean for the level of defender that she is specifically at the point of attack.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that more than makes up for any perceived limitations that she has, offensively, like scoring wise.

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[SPEAKER_03]: To the point where I would actually advocate building around those limitations, like find some actual primary, like shot makers, that can be an extension of her playmaking abilities.

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[SPEAKER_02]: by the way shout out to tulip plays and jk in the chat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think that's Jonathan coming up that we will talk about Jonathan coming up when we do our warrior stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So one other thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have not seen him at ball hollow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What one other thing about Veronica that I think needs to be pointed out is.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, who knew she was going to be so good defensively, too?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, I, again, I'm a late viewer to, to watching day in and day out, W MBA basketball, but they, they have done a really good job at stopping or limiting some of the top guards in the league this year, and I think she's a big part of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Oh, definitely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Definitely.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, depending on who you asked, again, like I remember, I knew this, but my my coast was quick to remind me that Veronica Burton was the three time big ten defense of player of the year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, she definitely had the skills she had the pedigree, but again, going back to it was she more suited to be like a specialist.

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[SPEAKER_03]: as opposed to like no one of the premier two way guards in the league because in my opinion that is what she has become like I think she really is risen the ranks of like the guard hierarchy because again right like the way she was using Connecticut you come in

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[SPEAKER_03]: You play like maybe like five minute bursts in each half and they stuck Veronica Burton on like the other teams primary ball handler and you're supposed to like just completely agitate them and pick them up like full court.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's doing that except she's also like leading the team and scoring and it says in a times rebounding like that is where it's like can you still defend at that high of a level with that much of a workload and she is like it's it's incredible that's why like I see people like you know

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[SPEAKER_03]: fans were already turning their eyes to their attention to the off season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I see a lot of fans of other teams putting Veronica Burton on their free agent wish list.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, fortunately, oh, him and Ian in smart, extremely, you know, it's not just drafting the talent.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Did you draft the right kind of contract?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because she is our restricted reagent.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would be shocked if the values don't match any offer on her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, I would imagine she'll be playing in ball hall of her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: the foreseeable future.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do want to talk about the possible expansion protections here in a second, but I want to mention to the folks listening and also in our YouTube chat here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We are in the process of attempting to put together a discord

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[SPEAKER_02]: that focuses on the Valkyries on the WMBA, also focuses on the Warriors in the NBA.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We will still have, I still plan to have channels about the other Bay Area teams as well, because our entire thing is focusing on that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you want, my goal is to kind of get it out by the time the playoffs start.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you want to get in a little early, if you want to kind of help us with the beta testing, anybody who wants to do that, shoot me an email, GG.

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[SPEAKER_02]: at bspnmedia.com.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We have a couple of people who are going to be in there as we kind of create the channels and the, you know, a little bit of instruction and such.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, in the next couple of weeks, we'll get that out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But if you want to kind of help us test it, shoot me an email and we'll get you an early invite and you can kind of help us figure things out in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you mentioned the expansion

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[SPEAKER_02]: If the rules of the expansion protections are the same this year as they were last year, who do you think are the six that get protected?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I've been asked this question a number of times and I understand why it's difficult for some fans to answer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, obviously, as you said, a lot of these players have exceeded

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think every expectation.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would say every single one, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: That is joined the bell crease at some point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One point or another has exceeded expectations.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And of course, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, I think that's the mark of a great team, you know, being able to resonate and connect with their fan base.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think a lot of fans feel like they have like a nice attachment or connection to these players.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But for me, if I'm looking at it, just moving forward,

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[SPEAKER_03]: With regards to roster building, we have to keep in mind that any player whose rights are affiliated with the Valkyries are subject to the expansion draft.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, for example, friend of the show, you stay Oshita right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You would have to be protected even though.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Ryan reminded me about that because that isn't that how we got Carla.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that is exactly how we got Carla.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And another player who has yet to make her double NBA debut, Maria Conde, from Spain, who I am so high on.

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[SPEAKER_03]: If you watch Fibobal, like you'll understand mine, enthusiasm.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know a lot of our audience right now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're big on European, like you're a league.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's an absolute star out there.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And it was clear like when we drafted her,

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[SPEAKER_03]: She was going to come over this year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Her hope was to come over next season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's TBD.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She got injured.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We'll see.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But to answer your question, um, what's it in Achilles as well?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I don't want to say fortunately, but if it was going to happen, at least the timing was early in the season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So

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[SPEAKER_03]: If she were to return, like she would be able to return and tie, it seems like she'd be able to return to full basketball activity around training camp.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, you know, that opens the door.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But, to answer your question, six, okay, Veronica Burton.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a no-particle order.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just Veronica Burton, Carla Late, Janelle Salon, Yocheetze, you say Yocheetze.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is where it gets really interesting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm going to have to say Chichelia Zandalisini.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, she's consistently been one of the absolute best three-point shooters her entire career, like both overseas and in the dub.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And what's crazy is with Zandalisini, these are the types of players I like, talk about scalability.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't matter if she plays five minutes or thirty five minutes.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It doesn't matter if she takes four shots or fourteen shots.

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[SPEAKER_03]: like her percentages never change, like she's very consistent production.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'd make her the last one.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is where it gets tough.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd probably say right now, Iliana Rupere.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, so that's the, unless I misheard, you did not say Kayla Thorne.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you say Kayla Thorne?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I did not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I did not.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and I've been asked that before and this is where I'd have to ask a clarity with my CBA friends about chlorine, you know, chlorine, uh, a veteran like if I cord her, if I put the core designation her is that still make her one of the six or she like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: separate player because if that's the case, I would probably put the core designation on her my thought process.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's just say that's that's not applicable.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously she's coming off of injury.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where there is some some ambiguity as to whether or not she'll even be ready for training camp.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That wouldn't discourage me from signing her if I'm the Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just

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[SPEAKER_03]: would an expansion team want to sign a player, you know, an older veteran or draft an older veteran who's currently injured.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's why I'm like, maybe maybe she might slide through.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I understand that there are two teams drafting the expansion.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But that's the same thought process I have with tip haze.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I would absolutely love

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[SPEAKER_03]: for either or both of them to return.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But again, if we're trying to maintain a core to build upon moving forward, I'm probably going to go with those other players because, you know,

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[SPEAKER_03]: A lot of them still have a lot of upside, several of them on their rookie contracts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And yeah, you know, a team control for at least, depending on the player, the next three to four to five years, you know, if depending on how like you want to work, their team options and restricted free agency.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I mean, I think that's a great way to maintain consistency.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I think a lot of these players have made the case for being brought back next year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If, though, and I've seen a lot of this of late, which is the Valkyries have created the blueprint to expansion team basketball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if, you know, obviously, who is at Portland hired

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[SPEAKER_02]: for for their basketball ops position right hired hired someone from the valkers organization like you would think that you would go oh this is kind of a model for us to build a competitive team on day one some of that is having

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[SPEAKER_02]: a player who was willing to shoulder a ton of the load offensively and defensively from jump street, which was Kayla and also tip herself because if you don't keep those two, I would imagine that they would go if if the idea is well, we're going to use this

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[SPEAKER_02]: golden state blueprint not necessarily to build around those two for the future, but on day one, we can actually sell tickets and be competitive like that is the new wave of doing this.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I think I think I've already heard through a lot of

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[SPEAKER_03]: league circles like media, WNBA media that these upcoming expansion teams, not just Toronto and Portland, but the other teams, Philadelphia Detroit Cleveland who are making their preparations for their eventual debut.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They are definitely, you know, not to say directly modeling their strategy after what the value is, but they are trying to definitely learn and adapt from what the value is of done.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Having said that,

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like unless, perhaps the league is changing season to season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The question is, is at what point do they change the playoff format?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like we're going to add two more teams next year, but like is it still going to be eight teams, like only the top eight?

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[SPEAKER_03]: make the playoffs because what I'm trying to get at is as we continue to add more teams and unless the playoff format changes like there's less your less incentivize to push for a playoff spot right like the odds are now more that like you're likely to not make the playoffs and if that's the case I think a lot of these expansion teams may kind of take the more patient approach that say like

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[SPEAKER_03]: NBA or MLB teams take, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Where it's okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We are really just going to focus on youth, player development, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: We are probably not going to be big, like aggressively, like aggressive players in free agency.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like I could see like that's where it opens up, especially when it comes to the draft.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're more inclined you're more willing to you know what I can actually take some of these international players.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They may not even come over in year one because right like we're really building for the long term because right now like you know you just choose your window.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think they definitely could but at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_03]: As everyone knows, all fans know this upcoming, this specific, okay, barring a lockout, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like this upcoming summer, at least as it pertains to the balconies.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And I guess to lesser extent Toronto and Portland, it's just this upcoming offseason, a majority.

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[SPEAKER_03]: of the league's current players are going to be a free agent in one form another, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Understricted or restricted, meaning that like I think that's kind of where like the value is again.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd want to bring KT back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'd want to bring tip it up at the same time, give an age, injury, tip has I don't even know anymore.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like if she's kidding or not about like retiring, you know, I guess what I'm trying to say is I think the Valks will be

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[SPEAKER_03]: a very desirable, like destination.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that they may be bringing in higher level players for their positions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's kind of get to where I feel your expertise is or at least your passion when it comes to basketball, which is the prospects and draft and all that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like obviously, we don't know how

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[SPEAKER_02]: the WNBA lottery or draft process plays out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the Valkyries, they had the fifth pick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if Portland and Toronto where they're going to fit in for their picks and how that's going to work.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But like if the Valkyries make the playoffs, that means they're going to be out of the lottery for the draft.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, we may be talking a

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, post even behind the expansion teams as far as where the pick is concerned.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe you're talking like seven or eight, rather than like a top five pick.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So as, you know, it's a very early in your draft board season, we talked a little bit about that last week about the Spanish player that you had, very high, and you also talked about, we also talked about Lauren Badz who talked about AZ FUD.

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[SPEAKER_02]: who kind of behind those players, you know, more into that six, seven, eight range, are you high on who we should be kind of looking out for, whether it's watching college whoop this year or figuring out, you know, if there overseas players, like who would be pretty high on your list of, you know, when college basketball starts, keep an eye on this person.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: There are a couple of names all throw out.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I've purposely not really posted too much, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because I like to use kind of like unveil my draft content, like make big bang.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But, you know, people hit me up every now and then I'll answer their questions.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, if the format stays the same, then if the values make the playoffs, the highest we'd be picking in the draft is eighth.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, it'd be the five lottery teams, five teams that didn't make the playoffs Portland, Toronto, and some order, and then the Valkyries, and obviously the higher seed we are, the lower we pick in the first round.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My personal big board.

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[SPEAKER_03]: already seems to deviate from mainstream big boards or mock drafts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'll just kind of preface that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: However, I think the players I'm about to say aren't completely, it's not completely wild if they're taken in the top ten.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So let's say we have a top ten pick like eight, nine, ten.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One player who I think if she's still available would be a fantastic is Connecticut Power Forward Center, Sarah Williams.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just absolutely, frankly, I haven't ranked a little higher than that, but again, if you see her on some of the mainstream mock drafts, she's usually around that range, like the back end of the first round, just incredible, incredible ball skills for her size.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's about like what's six four, six five, extreme at Jill, like very agile.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Again,

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[SPEAKER_03]: not the size of Lauren Bets, but in twenty twenty five again, bigs who can defend in space, who can switch, you know, defend the pick and roll.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's really good at that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Offensively, a very gifted, very gifted around the rim, but not just like all labs, very good like mid-range shooter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it gives that opens up that pick and pop threat.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, very good passer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think that would she would really fit in with what the warrior or a lot of wars.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The Valkyries like to do with, um, kind of like their big to big screening action.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We've seen, uh, Monique Billings and, uh, semi-facamentally do that a lot and to their credit this later in their careers.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They're willing to kind of step out their comfort zone this year and on those.

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[SPEAKER_03]: like double double screen high action.

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[SPEAKER_03]: One of them is willing to let it fly from, you know, eighteen feet or beyond the perimeter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I could imagine Sarah Williams doing that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I like her another one is again, this is interesting because I'm not sure if they kept all the players who I said we should protect.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It might be a little bit positionally redundant.

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[SPEAKER_03]: However, my draft philosophy usually is best player available, regardless of position.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So there is Eanna Martinez from Spain.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And she is, again, just a very, very dynamic playmaking guard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I guess you could call her point guard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Maybe combo guard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think she's truly a pure point guard.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, again, just very, very creative playmaker in transition.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Good shooter.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Obviously, I think I know the Valkyries would like to upgrade at shooting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And again, she is playing overseas.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, but she will be draft eligible, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Just the nature of the draft rules for international players.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like once you hit that age, you're just automatically eligible.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like you don't really declare.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So if they want to pick her like a picker, she's usually mocked somewhere in that range.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, and then I'll just give two more names real quick.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This prior I'm higher on than probably a lot of people, but Oklahoma wing, Peyton Verholst.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think she's got to be one of the most dynamic wings in this draft class, in the sense that she's very good at everything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's great at everything, not necessarily, but at that point, like, hey, this is like a true utility player.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she could actually help.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she on her own, like one of those types of players, like, um,

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[SPEAKER_03]: A force multiplying, like a connective player, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like she on her own, you're not going to run offense through her.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's not going to be the primary option.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's not going to be the best defender, but she can kind of elevate the floor of any line up she's in.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I like her a lot.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then one final just recently played at Georgia Tech, but she transferred to USC.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I call her power guard, Karen Dunn.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I truly respect guards who know how to have high rim rim frequency and high rim effectiveness or efficiency.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She does that in spades.

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[SPEAKER_03]: extremely good offensive rebounder.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Again, I think adding a little bit more size and length to the back court never hurts.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Not as bad of a shooter actually has some people think.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think she's actually very good from the corners.

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's a little bit more selective, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: She's not an easy foot or a Gianniacans, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: The premier perimeter shooters from this draft class, but I mean, at that range.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, no, I like it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like the names.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's never too early to talk about next year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's awesome that we can talk about next year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we can still talk about this year because they're right smack dab in the race to six seven or eight for the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's a really fun time.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's, you know, this season, especially when it comes to like, like, you know, you have this idea of what you want the team to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you know, okay, the realistic expectation is, you know, they're probably not going to be very good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And much like Veronica Burton, the Valkyries have exceeded my expectation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's been a really fun, fun watch so far.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's we're about to get to, you know, the stretch and we'll see how they handle the slightly more, I guess, you know, I, I typically said I had a comment about why they don't play as well in the fourth quarter.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And she was just like, I forget the exact quote, put the sentiment was like, man, he's just going to be emotionally strong.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you just get you, you just have to like that, that's the thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, that that's what I'm watching for is how they played down this stretch and how now has them ready.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But let's let's move on to some warriors talk here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, we are now moved to the death line up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We left Padhala and we are in the death line up segment talking warriors basketball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I think warriors fans at this point are so tired of talking about Jonathan coming up, but I did want to ask you, yeah, about what you think is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because Jonathan Cumminga's restricted free agency is kind of holding up where your ability to do anything else.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So what is your kind of your instinct here about what actually is going to eventually happen?

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's tough to say it changes from day to day based on whatever report comes out and what report you choose to believe.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's clear that I would say it's clear he doesn't want to be a warrior long term.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's fair to say.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So the question is really will he be a warrior this upcoming season or not?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I do believe I've heard from enough people in the know that the kings are very serious about wanting to acquire him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But again, it's not even taking to the tango.

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[SPEAKER_03]: In this case, it's a weird dance.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's taking three, it's taking three to tango because right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: The kings may say they want him, they may even be selling the warriors.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Hey, we're willing to trade frame in a sign and trade.

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[SPEAKER_03]: The warriors may say, hey, we're interested in doing that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But then coming a still needs to agree, like am I satisfied with the contract that you're going to sign and trade me for it seems like.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No, the three parties cannot agree to anything.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's not just the kings.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know the sons also registered interest in JK.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like because I guess beauties in either the holder, like it's not even just because I'm tired of this hold up, but

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay, a package involving the leak monk isn't like the worst thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's a high level contributor because that's a thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like the warriors, they've said all along at this point, you know what?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Forget the two timelines.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We are trying to win at least one more championship in Steph Curry's remaining year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So if that's the case, like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, Malignant could help win now, or I don't know what Phoenix was willing to send.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But all I'm saying is like, that kind of makes sense to me.

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[SPEAKER_03]: At this point, I understand you're trying to maximize the value of Joe Jonathan Kominga as an asset, and I don't mean to dehumanize him when I say that, but you know, like, in terms of a trade piece, but yeah, I just, I don't think

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[SPEAKER_03]: The longer this continues to me, it's not like his value is getting any better.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's just only decreasing and depreciating, at least with the guards being a tradable asset.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So all that's to say, what do I think is going to happen?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's just going to sign the qualifying offer.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's what he's going to do.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And frankly, I wouldn't just kind of prefer that clarity.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then that kind of actually tells you, like, wait a minute.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're only worried about the now.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We're not thinking about twenty thirty five or whatever, you know.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And in that case, that opens up a little bit more cat flexibility, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: You can potentially target some other players via trade.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, because now I believe that would open up.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think possible that opens up the mid-level exception.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Right, so you can actually, you could use middle-level exceptions now to acquire players in a trade, like you could absorb their salary.

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[SPEAKER_03]: All I'm saying is, hey, that actually might not be the worst thing at this point.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I know Joe Lakeup would feel differently, but at this point, you know, you're trying to put together the most competitive roster possible.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I think that's ultimately what's going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Brandon, I were actually talking about this and I was wondering what the what the fan base would think if he is suited up for the warriors opening night against lakers like with the fan base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: be happy to see him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay, you know, JK is going to help us win this game or would they be like, this dude does not want to be here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's only here because he has to be here and would they turn on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm I'm trying to figure out like what the sentiments for JK is going to be.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think anybody really blames him, which is the thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But at the same time, when you make it very clear that you would rather be somewhere else, it's kind of a difficult thing for fans, I think, to kind of go like, you know, do I am I rooting for this guy?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Am I not rooting for this guy?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, what's the deal here?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So the thing is, I think, I mean, I can't obviously work, we're speculating on how advanced feel.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I can't speak on behalf of them, but I feel like they would be supportive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like they would have his back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I don't think all from the onset of the season, it wouldn't be negative.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think where it gets interesting is, again, you've made it clear.

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[SPEAKER_03]: This is a one-year deal and it's inspiring contract.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're not coming back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Steve Kerr isn't beholden to Kominga like contractually meaning like he doesn't have to structure his game plan in Jonathan Kominga and if Jonathan Kominga does not fit his vision for this upcoming season and now he's just basically picking up DNP after DNP

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[SPEAKER_03]: How is he going to act?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because we have seen how he acts in the past and he's gone very public about it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, are you then going to become a distraction?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because if you look at like, and we'll talk about it all the current roster, the current core of this roster, very veteran laden and the reported three agents.

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[SPEAKER_03]: that are likely going to right happen, once this is all resolved, they are all very, very savvy veterans in their, like they're not really going to have.

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[SPEAKER_03]: any patients in my opinion, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like that's not something that they're coming here to put up with.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So that's where it's going to be interesting because if he clearly demonstrates that he is a true locker room distraction, then I think that is where the fans would potentially turn on him because it's like, hey, man, like you're preventing us from getting where we want to go.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We being like the players

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[SPEAKER_03]: warriors, domination, you know, like we all want to get back, you know, to the mountain top.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So we'll see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, you talked about the nice little transit here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You talked about the free agents who have kind of been tangentially tied to the warriors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like the Malik basically got cleared of this like gambling probe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think in the midst of of this scenario, like Detroit kind of moved on from

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what they could have offered him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so now he may have to take a lower contract kind of to rehab a little bit and go back out there again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I've seen him tied to the warriors a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about Malik Beesley as a fit?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So, I mean, again, I'm not a lawyer, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: I have, like, my fellow NBA guys who are more in the know with the harms of all those things, but I don't think he's completely out of the clear, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: If I'm understanding that, like, he's no longer the target of the investigation, but he's still well, you know, well within being investigated to see, like, you know, to what extent he was affiliated to any of that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There is still that little ambiguity as it does seem that previous to this teams were like, we're not sure what we can do, but now it's like, oh, maybe we can offer him something, maybe he is in the mix for something, but yeah, you do a bit of that risk for sure.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, but again, if Mike done leave you in the front office, if they're going to vet him as a potential free agent candidate,

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[SPEAKER_03]: And they believe that he will be available for the entirety of this upcoming season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely would pursue him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And this is where it gets interesting what we were talking about with the comming thing, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: If a comming it takes the qualifying offer, wait a minute, we could still give Alhorford what he wants and we could actually match

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[SPEAKER_03]: What Detroit at this point, they could actually can't offer him as much anymore, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Because they spent their free agent money or their cap space on Duncan Robinson and Keras Levert, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: So at that point, we're kind of on par, the same thing with New York.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they're only working with like what?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Minimums.

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[SPEAKER_03]: At least the teams that have kind of registered interest according to reports.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So it's like, oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'll let you talk about some of the other reported free agents that have been affiliated with the warriors, but I mean compared to them.

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[SPEAKER_03]: he's younger, he's more athletic, he's healthier.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, really the only thing looming is this legality legal troubles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Imagine signing him and then, you know, and one of those long charter flights when they're, you know, playing card game for that kind of like they're just looking at a little bit more closely.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So one that that is more of like a

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[SPEAKER_02]: fan favorite kind of thing and I think it's kind of a fun thing to think about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we've thought about it for years, which is the idea of Seth Curry coming in as like a tenth guy to just come and shoot threes, you know, whenever they need it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about Seth?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Seth, man, the years go by way too fast.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I remember meeting him at a fan event when he was a rookie with the Warriors because he has his rookie year.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He came to the Warriors training camp.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he participated.

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[SPEAKER_03]: My goodness.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then like you know, I understand why he never came back.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He wanted to kind of pave his own way, like you know, something separate from stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so I like that, you know, he's at a point in his career, his life where he feels comfortable, like he's already established his own idea identity that he can play with with stuff.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I'm all for it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It's is not just a narrative driven, uh, free agent signing, you know, like,

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think they would have, well, I was about to say, would they have relatively more, yeah, they would.

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[SPEAKER_03]: They would have more success than like the Rogers brothers, right, with the giants, you know what I'm saying?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, it's just the fact that one of them is deaf career.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_03]: That's what I'm saying.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[UNKNOWN]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think we definitely, I think every warrior fan agrees.

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[SPEAKER_03]: We need shooting.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think he's at the point in his career.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's absolutely comfortable coming off the bench.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Same thing.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's productive.

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[SPEAKER_03]: No matter how many minutes you give him.

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[SPEAKER_03]: You know, like you could yank his minute.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He could play five minutes one night.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He could play twenty five the next.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He's still giving you the same amount of effort, the same attention to detail.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I like it.

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[SPEAKER_03]: It gets interesting, though, given the other free agents who have been reportedly linked to the warriors, because it's like, well, wait a minute, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Not to get ahead, but, you know, some of those, well, I am getting ahead, some of those other names, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: Like, a GP-II, and the Anthony Melton, and a Malcolm Broaddon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, those are three others on my list.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, like, there's

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[SPEAKER_03]: You're really going to bring in like all of that.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And even if it's just, even if it's just the, like, do you have any melting seems to be a quote, quote, lock.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And then there are a lot of reports saying you're bringing in GP two.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Um, so is it either Seth or Malcolm Broadden.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And on top of that, we'll reshard is supposed to be put on the Fifteen Man roster, not a two way.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I mean the warriors already have their reputation of like kind of leftily having way too many undersized guards like that the right course of action like I'd not sure I'm feeling it there like I like all these players you know and so we know melt and fits we saw it in that small sample size last year that that was like man and if he did if he doesn't get hurt

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, do they play much better in that first half of the season, but, you know, there's like so many things that that he does get hurt than they get Jimmy and, you know, they're, they're off to the races.

01:00:29.611 --> 01:00:33.433
[SPEAKER_02]: But you add him, knee injuries are knee injuries.

01:00:33.493 --> 01:00:37.876
[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, it's not a hundred percent definite that he's going to bounce back completely.

01:00:38.256 --> 01:00:42.239
[SPEAKER_02]: So, but we at least know that he fits the idea of the Anthony Melton fits.

01:00:42.719 --> 01:00:44.020
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about Brogan?

01:00:45.167 --> 01:00:48.230
[SPEAKER_03]: This is where it gets tough for me to say it.

01:00:49.471 --> 01:00:54.375
[SPEAKER_03]: If you're telling me broadden is healthy again, I would rather have broadden over so.

01:00:55.544 --> 01:01:03.531
[SPEAKER_03]: because bragged in, I mean, like, we've seen it, right, during his, and I don't think we're completely far removed from that Malcolm bragged.

01:01:03.571 --> 01:01:15.142
[SPEAKER_03]: And obviously, members, early days of Milwaukee and Indiana, but even like, with Boston, and even last year, he had some, or no, two years ago, he had some moments with Portland.

01:01:17.707 --> 01:01:21.769
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he can be a true point like a pure point guard.

01:01:22.130 --> 01:01:24.851
[SPEAKER_03]: He can also be like an actual two guard.

01:01:25.572 --> 01:01:29.014
[SPEAKER_03]: Like, there are combo guards and then there are guys who actually played both.

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[SPEAKER_03]: He could actually do both very well.

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[SPEAKER_03]: And that's what I'm saying, right?

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[SPEAKER_03]: If you were really trying to maximize each of these roster spots, I think he brings a lot more to the table than Seth.

01:01:41.561 --> 01:01:45.144
[SPEAKER_03]: Like Seth, let's be real, like he's coming in to be a three point specialist.

01:01:45.204 --> 01:01:52.271
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, he's got some ball handling skills, but realistically, he's not going to really be doing a lot of playmaking.

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[SPEAKER_03]: I think you could actually feel comfortable with Brockton doing that.

01:01:56.975 --> 01:02:03.921
[SPEAKER_03]: But again, why is Brockton available because he's had his health concerns over like these last two, three years.

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[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, I don't know, with all these other teams reporting interest, I mean, clearly he's got to be at a point where he feels comfortable where he can actually play and endure the rigors of an eighty two game season.

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[SPEAKER_03]: So I'd be all for it.

01:02:21.279 --> 01:02:22.860
[SPEAKER_03]: I absolutely, yeah, I like his fit.

01:02:23.061 --> 01:02:23.982
[SPEAKER_03]: I like his fit a lot more.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then I guess the other one, we'll talk about Horford in a second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But the other one that I've seen is Cody Martin forward from, oh, yeah.

01:02:35.198 --> 01:02:48.188
[SPEAKER_02]: Most of his career in Charlotte, not a three point shooter necessarily, you know, spent, again, spent most of his career in Charlotte played for Phoenix at the end last year.

01:02:48.788 --> 01:02:50.870
[SPEAKER_02]: He's the other one that was tied to them.

01:02:53.054 --> 01:02:58.859
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, I mean, I, I, I like them at that point because again,

01:03:01.205 --> 01:03:01.645
[SPEAKER_03]: It's tough.

01:03:01.686 --> 01:03:09.473
[SPEAKER_03]: Like if it was like Cody Martin versus GP two, I might still lean GP two just because of the familiarity.

01:03:10.494 --> 01:03:14.538
[SPEAKER_03]: Like the team has and his familiar obviously with like the system, like the what Kerr wants to do.

01:03:16.480 --> 01:03:24.287
[SPEAKER_03]: But at that point, if you're going to Cody Martin, I haven't heard his name connected to the war is lately, but it was like last week.

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[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, but like I'm saying, if you go on a Cody Martin, that means you're actually willing to explore bringing in more size, more thing, which is what I feel like we need, which is why I'm not as high on bringing back GP two.

01:03:38.209 --> 01:03:40.112
[SPEAKER_03]: Because we basically play GP two.

01:03:41.249 --> 01:03:42.430
[SPEAKER_03]: as a six to power forward.

01:03:43.151 --> 01:03:45.953
[SPEAKER_03]: I've got to just have like an actual power forward, right?

01:03:46.033 --> 01:03:47.294
[SPEAKER_03]: Or like someone with size.

01:03:48.355 --> 01:03:54.580
[SPEAKER_03]: So if you're willing to even consider Cody Martin, are they still willing to consider trail aisles?

01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:56.522
[SPEAKER_03]: I like trail aisles a whole lot more.

01:03:57.082 --> 01:04:02.106
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I think we need a little bit more, again, size, length in the front court.

01:04:02.647 --> 01:04:06.530
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, he has the ability to, you know, shoot from distance.

01:04:06.550 --> 01:04:07.371
[SPEAKER_03]: You can stretch the floor.

01:04:07.391 --> 01:04:07.431
[SPEAKER_03]: So,

01:04:10.253 --> 01:04:18.664
[SPEAKER_03]: I know he was popping up in reports when Fraigensy started what seems like eons ago.

01:04:18.704 --> 01:04:21.068
[SPEAKER_02]: What a dead time for the NBA like

01:04:21.812 --> 01:04:31.280
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they've effectively with the CBA and this, just the way that the cap works and nobody can really spend it.

01:04:31.621 --> 01:04:38.126
[SPEAKER_02]: Like they've killed a lot of their off season because no moves are really able to be made.

01:04:38.266 --> 01:04:46.593
[SPEAKER_02]: So you're just like, what a joke that whole thing was like NFL's like, thanks guys, like we have the whole run here.

01:04:46.613 --> 01:04:47.554
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you for the WMBA.

01:04:49.857 --> 01:04:59.137
[SPEAKER_02]: uh at least at least I got something to pay attention to but man the NBA the free agent like post I guess post those first few days in July it's just been dead

01:05:00.058 --> 01:05:00.338
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:05:00.738 --> 01:05:00.999
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:05:01.079 --> 01:05:02.279
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, hey, that's cool.

01:05:02.459 --> 01:05:13.646
[SPEAKER_03]: I can, you know, invest my full focus on attention on the WNBA, which, which I've truly enjoyed, but yeah, I mean, it's like, there's not too much to discuss, and especially a definition.

01:05:14.106 --> 01:05:14.727
[SPEAKER_02]: No way.

01:05:14.807 --> 01:05:15.627
[SPEAKER_02]: It's so dead.

01:05:15.667 --> 01:05:16.788
[SPEAKER_02]: It's the most dead.

01:05:16.848 --> 01:05:19.790
[SPEAKER_02]: It's been, I think, probably, and I don't know how long.

01:05:20.910 --> 01:05:26.231
[SPEAKER_02]: And then let's end with Al, Al was the first guy, really, that was tied to the warriors.

01:05:26.672 --> 01:05:33.833
[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, he's a veteran's a veteran, and he's been around forever.

01:05:34.593 --> 01:05:44.236
[SPEAKER_02]: Not the first time he's been linked to the warriors, but he kind of is perfect for what they've needed yet.

01:05:46.526 --> 01:05:49.050
[SPEAKER_02]: He's a twenty minute player at this point.

01:05:50.532 --> 01:05:51.753
[SPEAKER_02]: Maybe that's all they need him for.

01:05:51.793 --> 01:05:53.135
[SPEAKER_02]: He's not going to play every game.

01:05:53.756 --> 01:05:55.198
[SPEAKER_02]: You do want to preserve him a bit.

01:05:56.179 --> 01:05:57.802
[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think about outcome of the Warriors?

01:05:58.915 --> 01:06:03.718
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think all things considered, it's a match of me in heaven, right?

01:06:03.778 --> 01:06:15.445
[SPEAKER_03]: Like I think, again, as you were saying, where he is at this point in career, like if he's still playing, it's because he wants, you know, another opportunity to win a title.

01:06:15.945 --> 01:06:18.367
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, I mean, if it was just simply comfort,

01:06:19.067 --> 01:06:23.648
[SPEAKER_03]: could stay in Boston, you know, could have gone back to Atlanta, where it all started, right?

01:06:23.688 --> 01:06:28.569
[SPEAKER_03]: I know they registered some interest in him early in the process, could have gone to Denver, right?

01:06:29.689 --> 01:06:32.270
[SPEAKER_03]: With the whole, let's find Yoke, it's some competent backups.

01:06:33.290 --> 01:06:43.092
[SPEAKER_03]: But obviously, he didn't, you know, I think he's always fit like kind of like the Warriors ethos, both on and off the court, you know.

01:06:44.417 --> 01:06:50.679
[SPEAKER_03]: I believe around League circles, he can see is considered like a very high IQ player.

01:06:51.199 --> 01:06:57.441
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, on and off the court, I think he really fits with Steph, Jimmy, even Dream on.

01:06:57.481 --> 01:07:02.483
[SPEAKER_03]: And as you said, maybe he only gives you twenty minutes a night.

01:07:03.503 --> 01:07:05.624
[SPEAKER_03]: I was kind of thinking more like twenty five.

01:07:05.644 --> 01:07:22.728
[SPEAKER_02]: Hey, if you can if you can give you twenty five minutes, then yeah, that is a bonus, but I know that there has been and they haven't been able to do this, but there's been an insistence in trying to move Dream on back to power forward so that he doesn't wear down so much by the end of the season playing so much center.

01:07:23.388 --> 01:07:36.234
[SPEAKER_02]: And that would be helpful there, but it'd also be nice to have a younger player be able to play center underneath him, which it doesn't, I mean, you know, post is so specific in his game.

01:07:36.674 --> 01:07:39.556
[SPEAKER_02]: TJD is so specific in his game.

01:07:40.316 --> 01:07:47.664
[SPEAKER_02]: And so I do wonder if they'll still have a lot of the same issues or maybe you just save the fourth quarter for Dream on playing the five.

01:07:47.684 --> 01:07:48.946
[SPEAKER_02]: That doesn't work.

01:07:49.006 --> 01:07:54.912
[SPEAKER_02]: It doesn't work as well as it used to because it's not really a surprise anymore, but it still is their their best lineup.

01:07:54.972 --> 01:07:55.313
[SPEAKER_02]: It seems.

01:07:56.028 --> 01:07:57.709
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, no, that's definitely what I was thinking.

01:07:57.890 --> 01:08:07.037
[SPEAKER_03]: I was thinking at most you use dream on the five to close out halves, you know, assuming it's still a close game if it's not even better.

01:08:07.877 --> 01:08:08.498
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm with you though.

01:08:08.518 --> 01:08:18.246
[SPEAKER_03]: That's where it gets interesting because as I have had, you know, I've discussed with my friends who are Celtic writers like beat writers.

01:08:19.343 --> 01:08:30.275
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, even during when they won the championship a couple of years ago, the Celtics didn't really have a true inside scoring presence, like all their centers, like that were at least the centers that were part of the rotation, right?

01:08:31.416 --> 01:08:35.700
[SPEAKER_03]: Alhorford, poor Zingus, right, even to lesser extent, Luke Cornette.

01:08:36.061 --> 01:08:38.703
[SPEAKER_02]: They're all, we played them in the finals.

01:08:38.804 --> 01:08:41.546
[SPEAKER_02]: It wasn't it just thrown lobster Rob Williams.

01:08:42.247 --> 01:09:00.553
[SPEAKER_03]: right that's the thing that they ironically they want a championship by going away from that yeah i'm not saying that's the recipe to success i would prefer i would prefer a little bit more floor balance you know to actually have that threat right now as you said it would only really be like what pjd um

01:09:01.293 --> 01:09:07.557
[SPEAKER_03]: because post-horford at this point, they're both stretch bigs even when trail Is played at the Kings.

01:09:07.617 --> 01:09:10.139
[SPEAKER_03]: He's like a small ball stretch five.

01:09:10.339 --> 01:09:11.139
[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, absolutely.

01:09:11.699 --> 01:09:15.022
[SPEAKER_03]: I would still like him because he can play the four.

01:09:16.022 --> 01:09:20.105
[SPEAKER_03]: But no, the Warriors just said we're not going to have that.

01:09:20.245 --> 01:09:25.408
[SPEAKER_03]: So and I'm not sure like again, if this TJD thing gets resolved

01:09:27.188 --> 01:09:37.151
[SPEAKER_03]: I don't want to keep us too long, but as you were saying, let's just say we actually do sign a bunch of those guys that we're linked to outside of Horford.

01:09:37.272 --> 01:09:41.313
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a bunch of guards, Melton, GP-II, Seth, braggedon.

01:09:41.653 --> 01:09:43.194
[SPEAKER_03]: It's a lot of guards, right?

01:09:43.874 --> 01:09:45.935
[SPEAKER_03]: You got well, a shard, you got moody still.

01:09:46.015 --> 01:09:51.817
[SPEAKER_03]: Like is there going to then be another trade in the works to kind of balance out this roster?

01:09:52.117 --> 01:09:55.118
[SPEAKER_03]: Because we're still very regard heavy.

01:09:55.158 --> 01:09:55.298
[SPEAKER_03]: Yep.

01:09:56.759 --> 01:09:59.802
[SPEAKER_03]: And so it'll it'll really be interesting and then of course Stefan pods, right?

01:09:59.842 --> 01:10:03.425
[SPEAKER_03]: So I feel like something else has got to happen.

01:10:04.770 --> 01:10:05.871
[SPEAKER_03]: before opening day.

01:10:05.891 --> 01:10:07.253
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, sure.

01:10:07.813 --> 01:10:10.636
[SPEAKER_03]: Nothing's going to happen until this this coming thing is resolved.

01:10:11.297 --> 01:10:19.846
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's let's end with your thoughts because Brian and I didn't really cover the the Warriors draft picks necessarily.

01:10:21.167 --> 01:10:25.832
[SPEAKER_02]: We didn't we didn't really have a death line up podcasts around that time.

01:10:26.833 --> 01:10:31.399
[SPEAKER_02]: But since again, you know, I know you have a passion for for this stuff.

01:10:32.199 --> 01:10:41.350
[SPEAKER_02]: What did you think of Will Rashard and then the the other pick Alex to the Australian wing, what did you think of those picks for the Warriors?

01:10:42.790 --> 01:10:47.991
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, I think they were both really great value for where they were selected, being both like late second rounders.

01:10:49.392 --> 01:10:53.052
[SPEAKER_03]: In online, my draft board for what it's worth, I had each of them ranked a little bit higher than that.

01:10:53.653 --> 01:11:00.054
[SPEAKER_03]: So I think Mike Dunleavy Jr., he read the room correctly.

01:11:00.194 --> 01:11:11.097
[SPEAKER_03]: I think he could understand which prospects might go, you know, will hire, which ones might be able to fall, so he was able to trade back, pick up, you know, get two shots at the apple, or two bites at the apple, I suppose you could say.

01:11:12.243 --> 01:11:19.670
[SPEAKER_03]: But I agree with from all the reports, it sounds like Rashad, we put on the Fifteen Man roster, two will be one of the two-way contracts.

01:11:19.990 --> 01:11:21.291
[SPEAKER_03]: I think that's the right move.

01:11:21.332 --> 01:11:25.916
[SPEAKER_03]: I think Rashad relatively speaking, he can contribute sooner.

01:11:25.936 --> 01:11:29.159
[SPEAKER_03]: This is where it gets interesting.

01:11:29.659 --> 01:11:36.225
[SPEAKER_03]: Again, he's in no way a carbon copy of GP-II, but I think in terms of the role, they would ask of him.

01:11:37.383 --> 01:11:40.705
[SPEAKER_03]: at most in year one, it would be what they would ask GP two to do.

01:11:40.725 --> 01:11:43.366
[SPEAKER_03]: So that's why I kind of feel like it's redundant having both of them.

01:11:44.046 --> 01:11:44.507
[SPEAKER_03]: But I get it.

01:11:44.647 --> 01:11:45.567
[SPEAKER_03]: GP two's older.

01:11:45.927 --> 01:11:49.429
[SPEAKER_03]: He's battle tested, you know, and I get a great locker room presence.

01:11:49.489 --> 01:11:57.573
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just like, I don't know, it makes me less inclined than to give Rashard a fifteen-man roster spot, but I can also understand the cap reasons.

01:11:58.194 --> 01:12:00.735
[SPEAKER_03]: To me, I think actually does have some considerable upside.

01:12:01.375 --> 01:12:03.096
[SPEAKER_03]: I think we saw some flashes in summer league.

01:12:03.116 --> 01:12:04.096
[SPEAKER_03]: I know is we'll up and down.

01:12:04.757 --> 01:12:06.438
[SPEAKER_03]: It's just he's not quite

01:12:07.238 --> 01:12:10.079
[SPEAKER_03]: a primary score or shock creator.

01:12:11.259 --> 01:12:20.601
[SPEAKER_03]: But I mean, I think he has a really great motor, very intuitive, like just off ball player, which I think fits really well with the warriors.

01:12:21.041 --> 01:12:26.323
[SPEAKER_03]: I think you saw it, like, I mean, obviously in summer league, they're going to give him the opportunity to be on ball.

01:12:27.083 --> 01:12:30.544
[SPEAKER_03]: But you saw the moments where he was playing off of

01:12:32.350 --> 01:12:54.096
[SPEAKER_03]: who do we have in summer league like shackleford basically are summer league guards right where you kind of saw like how well he is um you know getting like early and deep seals on player ceiling office man you saw the footwork like in the post you saw him able to be like able to kind of capitalize on in the mid range specifically when he's just stepping into shots

01:12:55.246 --> 01:12:58.528
[SPEAKER_03]: It's type of guy you'd want and he has a lot of like size and length.

01:12:59.069 --> 01:13:00.690
[SPEAKER_03]: So kind of like a combo forward.

01:13:01.391 --> 01:13:12.519
[SPEAKER_03]: I definitely understand how he could fit in the wars, but like I said, yeah, yeah, he'll probably need this season to kind of acclimate to the NBA, but I definitely like the upside.

01:13:12.539 --> 01:13:13.660
[SPEAKER_03]: I think it's a worthwhile pick.

01:13:15.515 --> 01:13:15.875
[SPEAKER_02]: Awesome.

01:13:16.275 --> 01:13:24.559
[SPEAKER_02]: Love the analysis and really appreciate you coming on and helping us out while Brian is on vacation.

01:13:25.179 --> 01:13:30.782
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, you're kind of the perfect fit for what we try to do here because of your knowledge and your fandom of both teams.

01:13:31.382 --> 01:13:39.206
[SPEAKER_02]: And again, for anybody who wants to test help us test out the discord, let me know, GG at BSPN Media.com.

01:13:39.686 --> 01:13:45.828
[SPEAKER_02]: Also shout out to Rob and Ghost who were in the chat earlier.

01:13:46.309 --> 01:13:49.890
[SPEAKER_02]: Thank you all for coming in and hanging out and chatting with us.

01:13:50.010 --> 01:13:57.153
[SPEAKER_02]: But can Rob, before we get out of here, is there anything you want to plug any, you mentioned your podcast a couple times.

01:13:57.193 --> 01:14:01.075
[SPEAKER_02]: What's the latest episode that you all have done or what you got coming out

01:14:01.075 --> 01:14:01.218
[SPEAKER_02]: health.

01:14:02.737 --> 01:14:04.438
[SPEAKER_03]: Oh yeah, I mean, I'll just say real quick.

01:14:04.999 --> 01:14:18.029
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, everybody, you can just follow me on social media on Twitter or X, whatever you want to call it at CP-three, underscore seven seven seven seven and at the top of my profile, you'll see the link to my podcast, East meets West.

01:14:19.250 --> 01:14:20.331
[SPEAKER_03]: Please subscribe.

01:14:20.531 --> 01:14:21.132
[SPEAKER_03]: We'd love that.

01:14:21.392 --> 01:14:24.935
[SPEAKER_03]: Check out the videos, drop a like, drop a comment, everything, anything.

01:14:25.195 --> 01:14:26.176
[SPEAKER_03]: It's all appreciated.

01:14:27.237 --> 01:14:29.439
[SPEAKER_03]: Recently, having a number of guests,

01:14:31.260 --> 01:14:36.827
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, writers, beat writers or like sideline reporters from each WNBA team.

01:14:37.387 --> 01:14:40.611
[SPEAKER_03]: We recently had Kenzo Fakuta who covers the Valks, right?

01:14:40.631 --> 01:14:41.692
[SPEAKER_03]: He's the Valks beat writer.

01:14:42.173 --> 01:14:47.239
[SPEAKER_03]: We just recently had Andrew Dukeowitz who is the beat writer for the Minnesota Lings.

01:14:47.299 --> 01:14:50.843
[SPEAKER_03]: We have a couple guests from the other teams, trying to get an idea.

01:14:51.904 --> 01:14:57.429
[SPEAKER_03]: Each team has, you know, where each team is at, as we close the WNBA regular season.

01:14:57.449 --> 01:15:03.133
[SPEAKER_03]: And even someone like the lottery bound teams, we have some representatives from those teams coming on.

01:15:03.153 --> 01:15:03.733
[SPEAKER_03]: That's awesome.

01:15:04.074 --> 01:15:14.822
[SPEAKER_03]: And just one real quick, for the scouting group that I'm a part of, the center hub, we are doing a college season preview magazine.

01:15:14.842 --> 01:15:17.484
[SPEAKER_03]: So we are actually, yeah, we are previewing

01:15:19.354 --> 01:15:22.076
[SPEAKER_03]: All, three hundred sixty five division one schools.

01:15:22.616 --> 01:15:23.276
[SPEAKER_03]: Wow.

01:15:23.376 --> 01:15:25.938
[SPEAKER_03]: So that magazine will be for it's it is for purchase.

01:15:26.098 --> 01:15:28.179
[SPEAKER_03]: And so in my profile, you'll see the link.

01:15:28.659 --> 01:15:30.980
[SPEAKER_03]: And if you want to check it out pre order, it'll be great.

01:15:31.020 --> 01:15:38.704
[SPEAKER_03]: You know, and just get to know about the players this upcoming season, the teams and some of whom are going to be some of the next NBA stars of tomorrow.

01:15:39.684 --> 01:15:40.445
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, totally.

01:15:40.805 --> 01:15:41.325
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:15:41.365 --> 01:15:46.608
[SPEAKER_02]: Tell me a little bit more about this magazine is this is this going to be like a PDF.

01:15:47.623 --> 01:15:49.584
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah, this year it's just going to be a PDF.

01:15:49.765 --> 01:15:55.528
[SPEAKER_03]: I think next year, or even later in the season, we'll have another magazine for like the March Madness.

01:15:55.949 --> 01:15:56.989
[SPEAKER_03]: That one we're going to have to try.

01:15:57.070 --> 01:15:57.990
[SPEAKER_03]: We're going to do for print.

01:15:58.511 --> 01:16:01.112
[SPEAKER_03]: But for this one, for this college season preview, it's a PDF.

01:16:03.155 --> 01:16:05.856
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, no, that is, that is incredible.

01:16:06.457 --> 01:16:09.158
[SPEAKER_02]: That's a lot of teams.

01:16:10.059 --> 01:16:18.483
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, so if you, if you set, I'm looking on your profiles, see if I can figure out how to pre-order it.

01:16:18.583 --> 01:16:23.185
[SPEAKER_03]: Where if you find it, I will send it, you know, I'll put it at the top.

01:16:23.645 --> 01:16:24.866
[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, shoot it for me.

01:16:24.926 --> 01:16:30.049
[SPEAKER_02]: I'll put it, I'll put it in the podcast show notes for people who, who they want to see, but.

01:16:30.589 --> 01:16:32.210
[SPEAKER_02]: All right, so thanks again.

01:16:34.082 --> 01:16:35.144
[SPEAKER_02]: Rob wanted to know.

01:16:36.046 --> 01:16:39.253
[SPEAKER_02]: Lastly, how does one qualify for that scouting hub?

01:16:44.446 --> 01:16:55.574
[SPEAKER_03]: Uh, by all means shoot me submit your work and everything like, uh, yeah, we just have a lot of great, um, you know, scouts for both the men's and the women's game.

01:16:56.215 --> 01:17:01.638
[SPEAKER_03]: I'm kind of like the unofficial WNBA lead scout of the center of the show.

01:17:02.079 --> 01:17:02.359
[SPEAKER_03]: Yeah.

01:17:02.539 --> 01:17:03.340
[SPEAKER_03]: I mean, feel free.

01:17:03.820 --> 01:17:05.161
[SPEAKER_02]: You got you got show game Rob.

01:17:05.681 --> 01:17:07.403
[SPEAKER_02]: You got to step up to the plate here.

01:17:08.163 --> 01:17:09.785
[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, and Damian Lee's an Israel, by the way.

01:17:10.066 --> 01:17:10.326
[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

01:17:10.346 --> 01:17:10.987
[SPEAKER_02]: That's what I thought.

01:17:11.387 --> 01:17:14.691
[SPEAKER_02]: I thought he was not playing in the US right now.

01:17:15.673 --> 01:17:17.435
[SPEAKER_02]: That's based on somebody who was asked.

01:17:17.935 --> 01:17:25.225
[SPEAKER_02]: He wanted to basically get Steph and Seth and D. Lee on the same squad, the splash family there.

01:17:25.725 --> 01:17:26.046
[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

01:17:26.226 --> 01:17:26.786
[SPEAKER_02]: Thanks again.

01:17:27.347 --> 01:17:34.173
[SPEAKER_02]: Konrado, we will of course have you on any time and hopefully soon again.

01:17:34.193 --> 01:17:36.095
[SPEAKER_02]: And that is it from here.

01:17:36.596 --> 01:17:38.998
[SPEAKER_02]: So for Konrado, I am WG.

01:17:39.598 --> 01:17:41.600
[SPEAKER_02]: Good luck to the Valkyries this weekend.

01:17:41.640 --> 01:17:44.083
[SPEAKER_02]: We will see you when we see you peace out.