Valkyries end the first half on a sour note + first half thoughts, Iliana Rupert is on her way | Valks Valley

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[SPEAKER_01]: Welcome back to Valks Valley, our Golden State Warriors Valkyries podcast brightness here with me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we're going to talk about the first half of the Valkyries inaugural season is now done.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they struggled to end the first half though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't say that there was anything that I was super alarmed at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They were competitive against three good teams going into the break.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're just on the wrong side of the win loss record in all three games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You were at the Vegas game when they played the ACEs, which if anyone asked me, like, what is the best game to watch?

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[SPEAKER_01]: from the Valkyrie season, like just from an entertainment standpoint, that's probably the one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The defense was lacking, but I thought it made for like a fantastic up and down basketball game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what, so what were your thoughts live watching them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Was it pretty similar to what we had seen or were there some things that the aces were taking advantage of that may bode not so well for the Valkyrie in the second half?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think after the first game, I remember, I remember we did the podcast maybe a couple days after a week after and it felt very clear that the aces were just bringing the ball up with like Chelsea Gray and the game plan was the pass it into Asia at the free throw line and letter work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And what the values were doing is that they were collapsing

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[SPEAKER_00]: on Asia and just saying, anyone else can beat us, but Asia.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this time around, I felt like the ACEs had, you know, Veronica Burton was in foul trouble and Jackie Young instead was bringing it up on a lot of possessions and just saying, I'm taking it to Veronica.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to score, she's going to get a foul called.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course Veronica can't play as aggressive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When she has those fouls and it was just that was just working, you know, Asia's first half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She damn your head like thirty points of felt like and they also were doing a double big thing where I think the first game was a lot of Kia Stokes and the second game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe her name is Megan Gustafson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was getting a lot of run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm quite surprised this might be a topic that comes up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm quite surprised that the Valkyries haven't been doing double big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In some of these games, you know, that's kind of why I said that I thought a me here was going to get cut instead of Talbot, because I was on the Talbot train of getting getting waived for repair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I kind of switched up at the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, they're not really doing double big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what it makes sense for them to have four centers on the roster anyways.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they ended up cutting Talbot instead.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now they have four rosters on the four centers on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're still not going double big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm interested in how that's going to play out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, you go, the thing with the, the Valkyries Biggs is that, you know, Monique's not your typical five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if anything, she's probably like, she's six four, so she has the size, but she kind of plays a little bit like a four as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so, you know, you run Monique and Temmie or some variation of Monique, Temmie and me here at the same two of them at the same time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, I felt like you have a different result in the Ace's game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because our Biggs are faster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, of course, Asia's the best, but like they could have out ran, Gustavson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm just surprised I didn't try it one time in that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now that repair is on the roster and the latest news is that she should be ready for the start of the second half.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe they will play more of what you're talking about because she is a thirty three percent three point shooter in her career so far so they they could stretch her a little bit and do some things some interesting things that they haven't been able to do with their big this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Billings is not a three point shooter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She will take them if she's wide open, but that is not the strength and I know Tammy has put up a few of them as well, but that is also not her strength.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So maybe the addition of root pair will allow them to do a little bit more of what you were talking about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, yeah, like you said, repairs actually kind of a three point threat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know, thirty three percent in your career.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if you're just looking at the W, but I think she's kind of made herself overseas where she hasn't played in the W since twenty twenty two or twenty twenty three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so I think she's kind of made herself who she is overseas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that might be a better representation of her three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to imagine that numbers probably more up, but whether that be Euro basket or Europe league or

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[SPEAKER_00]: whatever team she played for last year overseas, but I think she's a legit threat from outside.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And because of Rupert finally coming over, they did wave Stephanie Talbot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Have you seen if she landed on another team or not?

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[SPEAKER_01]: haven't seen anything about it yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because when Julie Van Lou got wave, she landed on the sparks fairly quickly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was kind of wondering about talent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder, I know I read a Richard Cohen piece where he was saying like when it gets closer to that guaranteed deadline.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it was like July, fourteen, there's something that they kind of cut the waiver period down from twenty four from forty eight hours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's twenty four.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there wouldn't like bleed into the deadline or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wonder if she had a twenty four or a forty eight hour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: waiver period, but regardless, it's been longer than that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I haven't seen anything for Talbot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm assuming they'd wanted to clear waivers because she is she was owed like, you know, a good chunk of of money there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I imagine they'd want her to clear and then resign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I haven't seen anything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Looking at her ESPN page and I don't think she is linked to any of the teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Quite.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And she was guaranteed that money from the Valkyrie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that just hits their books regardless.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't an on guaranteed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: contract, protected veteran, I think it's called.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's talk about the first half of the season so far.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we've been on this train on this podcast and that they have just exceeded our expectations from the very beginning and how competitive they've been playing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And did you see the latest Sabrina and Ben piece about the future like which teams are best fit for the future and

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[SPEAKER_01]: behind the Indiana fever sat the Golden State Valkyries and they even had the Joe Lake of Quote in there about winning a title in five years and I think I think they wrote the piece together so I don't know if it was Sabrina Orben who wrote it but they said something to the effect of like that is no longer like a crazy prediction like that is something that you know you could theoretically you could see it happening so first half I would have loved for them to win one of these three games and

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[SPEAKER_01]: they you lose the you lose the ace's game by one though it was a crazy three pointer at the buzzer just to get within one that the other game the phoenix game it took a little bit of come back uh come back genel to it to be that close and then in this this game would see with Seattle it wasn't as close but in I feel like in all and this is kind of in the theme of their season is just

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[SPEAKER_01]: When they need a tough bucket, it is really hard for them to get a tough bucket, especially if it's not coming from three point range.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it made me wonder, as now their roster, it looks to be complete.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like this looks like the squad that they are running with for the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you think is going to be the go to clutch score?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And maybe they don't have one, but who are you most comfortable with handling the ball, making the decision and taking the tough shots late in the games?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there's only one right answer, and I think it's tip A's.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that she, since coming back from injury and getting a string of games, like I think it's clear she should have been our all star had she played throughout the entire season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I'm not going to say like I feel as comfortable with TIPA is being that person for us is say like, you know, you take the best player off of any other team, but I am a fan and and I think she's been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think she showed that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do have any other answers to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So her splits this year, forty four, forty six, eighty seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And when she has the basketball, it looks like something is going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The only problem is for whatever reason, she does not get the benefit of the whistle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she is often displayed out, pissed off at the referee for not getting a call.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and I don't know if it's because she is super athletic and she kind of makes some of this stuff look easy she's not hitting the ground like you know like a bag of bricks or something she's very graceful so maybe doesn't look like she's getting fouled like some of these are like

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[SPEAKER_01]: Veronica Burton, like they're going to nickname her like floor burns or something because she just hits the ground, like almost every other time up and down the court, but she does get the foul call because she hits it so hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I agree with you, but it doesn't seem like they necessarily set

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[SPEAKER_01]: tip haze up for these moments.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, she doesn't necessarily always have the ball when they need a, a tough two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was sometimes open and she'll, she'll hit a, she'll hit a three point shot when they need it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I don't, I don't sense that they, they even have her handling the ball late in the games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that's not, that doesn't seem like a go to strategy for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it was by design, but in the Asus game, Genel shot, well, I think most Belkries fans thought were a questionable shot to kind of not win the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then again, following the next game, it's against Phoenix, and she gets a play legit design for her to hit that midi over a list of Thomas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then that three pointer as well to then allow her to hit the midi like it seems like they're going with

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[SPEAKER_00]: Janelle, but she didn't close last game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't believe I think Xandela Sini got it over her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She didn't even play in the fourth quarter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're trying to still figure it out too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, Nikase got coach of the month.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that was very, um,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was full.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was well deserved, but I think I'm starting to notice that, you know, as much as this team is brand new, so it was Nikase as a head coach and I would love to see her challenge percentage here because there she just like, I don't think she used the challenge that entire ace is game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the challenge against you know the way that I watch sometimes I'm not really catching that stuff because I'm trying to clear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was easier in arena because there was a clear one where Kate was either on the corridor on the bench.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just screaming like this is a clear off of Las Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Natalie's just so caught up in the action that she's not maybe it's the people behind her that got to help with that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I don't know if they have the same video people to NBA do where they have that screen and they're like challenge a challenge to challenge it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But even in this last Seattle game, she actually did burn a challenge, but it was basically Skyler Diggin's got pushed into Carla, hit Carlos face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fal gets called on Veronica Burton and we're like, what the hell just happened?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I see one replay and I go, okay, you can make the case here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Veronica pushed Skyler into Carla.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure it was as exaggerated, but that's that makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Challenge burned if they lose it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on, like I, I within, you know, one replay was like, this probably wouldn't get overturned.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the one challenge she did do against Phoenix was the one where Alyssa Thomas just completely bulldozed a Veronica burn and I think they did win that challenge if there was a challenge there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But Veronica burn almost had to die for them to get that challenge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jesus.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but no, I'm just like noticing that, you know, when I, when I say the double big stuff as well, like I, I kind of feel like there's still a little bit of figuring out

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[SPEAKER_00]: For her, of course, given that this rotation has been changing, the roster pieces have been changing, but it's just something I'm keeping an eye on here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, where did they play in Vegas?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What was the arena?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it a quality mobile?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It wasn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was wrong about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was expecting it to be at the team mobile.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And when I started to buy tickets, I was like, what the hell is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mick a little ultra center.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, was it in?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Gosh, what hotel was it in?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mandalay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Mandalay Bay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because how many?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you can fit what?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, eleven or two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would say like, twelve to thirteen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What it basically was was just a lower bowl.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, like when I was looking at tickets, I was like, okay, fifty bucks for it's also expensive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Fifty bucks for the worst seat in the house and I was like shoot like Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I only got to pay like twenty to thirty for the best seat in the house.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that has changed and I'm not happy about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But are the Valkyries tickets?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going up and the next game is a page game so that's like fifty bucks to get in, you know, fifty to seventy to get in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it was like fifty bucks for the worst ticket and then I was like, you know what, I'm just going to play this, try to kind of play it close like I do with the Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank God I didn't play it as close as I do with the Valkyries because there were like no available seats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I pulled the trigger on like a eighty dollar ticket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Really good seat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But once I get in there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I also said on this podcast, I'm never going to pull the trigger on an eighty dollar ticket again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I did it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's the, I was like, I'm in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I'm all want to see this team play away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when I go in, I'm like, oh, the fifty dollar ticket was actually just like a lower bull seat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in that chase and I should have just done that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you and did you and JJ go together?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, just us two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Very fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was a very fun game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Kind of the inner arena stuff where I had just been to chase center to see women's basketball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we went to the Invisaline Bay Area Women's Classic in December and then

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then I've only been to for the WME have only been a chase for Valkyrie games and I was like, man, the inner arena entertainment is just like super fun and you know, everyone's super into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I wonder if this is just a chase thing or if it's all around the W. It was like that in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was they had, you know, fun games and you know, the crowd was super into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so yeah, two for two on on WME arena so far and then being super fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking about going back to our question about who's your, your bucket getter.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I think many people think that that should be Kayla.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if she's hit a wall and I was gonna bring that up as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so I have her last, I have her last, what is this last five game?

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[SPEAKER_01]: So so Atlanta, the game they lost to Atlanta.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was fifteen and six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the indie game that they did they won, she was eighteen and eight, though she only shot twenty six percent from the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the game that the you saw in Vegas, she was ten and nine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: and then the phoenix game shows eight and six and then just last night or was it last night or you know, yesterday afternoon against Seattle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Four and four and shot eleven percent from the field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, what I can't tell and you know, it would be great if we had some analysis on this in some way and and that will come, you know, as the as the WMBA and the Valkyries get more popular, which is what I can't tell is

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[SPEAKER_01]: is she hitting a wall or is she seeing different defense or are do they have tape on how to stop the valkyries offense a little bit more this was their worst output offensively of the season and then Seattle game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you seeing when it comes to Kayla?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of the same thing both these last three games have kind of felt like you can't rely on her for some of those buckets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it seems like she's taken similar transition

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[SPEAKER_00]: Layups were, you know, I'm feeling like, oh, no, no, no, no, yes, where it's kind of now just like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, where, you know, she gets the ball in transition and she kind of does these long strides for her two steps to shoot the layup and

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[SPEAKER_00]: These are kind of missing now and it also felt like you can kind of rely on her for like, okay, she's going to miss her first three, three, but she's going to hit some timely ones.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it feels like you can't rely on that right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was going to wonder if it was like, once she got announced for all star that that started to zip off, but like you said, it seems like, you know, the Indiana game even though a teen, she didn't shoot that well, but I'm not even going to count that kind of feels like really the last three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She hasn't been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of the offensive impact that you can basically rely on for this first half of the season, which got her the all star nod.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm with you that I don't have the answer, whether that be different defenses, you know, they now have tapes, they're like, okay, we know how to just step up on Kayla or, or, you know, start to time that drive when she does her two steps, like just just kind of start to play that differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, she has not felt that's also another reason why I did not say her and I said to it because she kind of hasn't felt like that for the past couple of games that you can rely on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So her numbers have dipped a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She is now shooting thirty six percent from the field and twenty eight percent from three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She had started the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Poor from three and I was like, the shot looks good.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to come around and it did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But now she's starting to miss him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the thing that stands out to me a little bit more is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the aggressiveness in going to the middle doesn't seem to be there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that is where I was kind of wanting, you know, maybe she's tired.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She hasn't played this many minutes or she didn't play this many minutes last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if in her career so far, if she's had this heavy of minutes, like she has the Valkyries, but being the number one score is a little bit of a different energy than if you are, you know, if you're getting minutes and you're not

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're not relying on you to get buckets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can do different things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But she was so good at getting to the middle and shooting that little fade away.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was so good at picking up offensive rebounds and getting in the middle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And those are the things that I'm not really seeing from her right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that could simply be fatigue and just the season, the grind of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's not going to have that much of a break because she's going to be involved in the All-Star Game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk about the All-Star Game stuff in a bit because it plans have changed for the WNBA this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Friday night, the three-point shootout in the skills competition in Saturday is the actual All-Star Game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I forgot, I guess I'm assuming it was the same as last year, but I had just always assumed it's Saturday Sunday like the NBA and it's not, it's Friday Saturday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so let's talk a little bit about and we'll use this as our as our quickest take here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who is your favorite player to watch?

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not about who the best players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not about, you know, who you think should be the MVP of the team or whatever, but just who's the person that you like watching the most?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think most Valkyrie fans would say this and I agree with them that it's Carla.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She is just so fun to watch offensively, you know, she's also like Veronica always on the ground.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You feel like, you know, she's given that extra effort, the hustle, but just watching her speed and just off a pick and rolls or just when she has a clear lane to drive like

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's probably from a skill set perspective, some of the most entertaining stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know tips got a lot of that as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think for Carla, it's like, oh, she's like our rookies, she's the nineteen year old, she's twenty or whatever she is, and you want to root for her, and she's small out there and compares into the rest.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think, yeah, Carla is from a skill set perspective and from a rooting perspective, like, she kind of has everything going for her for when I watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if she has little sister energy on that team because when they push her around I just I was like oh man who's gonna stick up for who's the the big cyst is gonna go over there and push the other person around because she is so fun to root for my player is Veronica Burton I we can't measure who's playing the hardest right but you see her hit in the floor you see her running point you see her

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[SPEAKER_01]: slowing them down when they need to be slowed down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's kind of the adult in the room.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's still a very young player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I watch her and I've seen so much growth since the beginning of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's setting up that three-point shot, which looks a lot better than it did for a really recent season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you could see the things that she's doing where she's getting the space needed.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then some of the passes where she's setting up folks

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now she's not, I don't know how.

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[SPEAKER_01]: much of a ball handler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She is necessarily because I think that may stop her from getting by some folks, but she's so smart.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And just the fact that she's willing to hit the floor just about any time is that you got to root for that that she's selling out for her team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So she she would be my pick, but yeah, I love I love Carla too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was a good one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it feels like as Kayla's kind of, you know, hit this little three game kind of wall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Veronica's been very reliable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like that's kind of like throughout the entire season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's just been like super reliable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, and I think Natalie very much likes that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, another reason to why maybe Chen is valued is like she also kind of brings that steadiness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Veronica's clearly that to, you know, the highest degree for for this team specifically.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you can always just rely two three point shots that are going to go in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just like you said, slowing it down, meaning to slow it down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm with you on that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I did wonder because they lost three all stars to injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder how far down the list Veronica was of a Kathy choosing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the all stars Brittany Sykes did make it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the mystics have three players on the all star team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh and Brianna Jones made it to replace Caitlin and Satu Sabali and then a Caleb McBride replaced Ryan Howard who hurt her knee and so I was like I wonder you know maybe maybe Veronica wasn't in like that top three but I wonder how many people would have had to get injured before she would have got the call because she doesn't have the gaudy-gaudy numbers

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when you watch her play and you look at how well Golden State has been playing, she seems to be a very big factor in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's she just was not obviously from the expansion draft.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was not protected by Connecticut, but it's like you can see she's gonna have a long career in the WMBA.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Seems like a silly thing considering where Connecticut is right now too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like she's like you for sure going to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: a starting level point guard on a championship team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's a hell of a player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Jacob and the chat had this to say about Kayla.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think a big part is also that she's thirty two and carried a team for a month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's a lot.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think the All Star Break will be big for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And for the Valkyries, they don't play again until next Thursday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe next Thursday or next Friday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe next Friday actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they will have quite a bit of a break, though, Kayla will be a part of this all-star experience, which is awesome for her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure she would not want to turn that down to get a few days extra rest, but that will be beneficial for her as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, let's talk about first half stuff here as far as first half MVP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do we still have to give it to Kayla?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Would you give it to Kayla?

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[SPEAKER_01]: because of what she did in, you know, maybe not this last, maybe not in July as much as in the other couple months, but she did, she was

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[SPEAKER_01]: just coming up nails for them when they needed her.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would probably still predict her as first half at VP.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think without a doubt, just three games, right, that three games, most recent three games, but all the games before that, you know, like it's, she's our only all star and it's very well deserving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you'd probably go

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[SPEAKER_00]: Would you go Veronica or tip second just because tip miss so many games and it may be took a couple games to get or go and but um Veronica or tip second second and third but Kayla without a doubt number one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What would you consider to be the biggest surprise in the first half.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean for me just based off of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I thought going into the season and of course I was wrong, but the record, I thought they were going to be with Connecticut, you know, I didn't think they were going to be with Las Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's has more about Las Vegas and it does about Golden State, but just one game under five hundred, all of these games, they were in it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even that Seattle game, they were basically in it until like the four minute mark of the fourth, like I thought that they were just going to do Valkyries things and be within one again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I think the record has for sure been the most surprising thing for me about you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have closed out some games that

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[SPEAKER_01]: most teams that have you know that are put together like this would not close out but then they've also lost some for the same reason i think they just the key is just how competitive they are even when they get down like um i think it was the phoenix game they were down like thirteen to three to start the game or thirteen to two and then they came all the way back they went on like an eighteen to zero run at some point they still lost the game

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, those fourth quarter, you know, late struggles with the with possessions and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But for me, the biggest surprise, I think would still be Julie Van Lue.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not Talbot is much though she started so much during that hot streak when they didn't have their Eurobasket players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So from like a deserving standpoint, like she definitely showed that she was valuable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's also not only Julie Van Lou getting waived and Talbot eventually getting waived, but it's who they kept for those players, which eventually turns into

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[SPEAKER_01]: two players that they had cut for the season, even started in Caitlin Chen and Laticia, a me here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now those women have played really well also.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think they have proven that they deserve to be on the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, when we, when we started doing this, we're like, oh, like you were telling me, oh, yeah, Julie van Lu, she's a vet, like she's been around.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, she's going to bring.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's like a year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, but she's older, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's like thirty two.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, um, you know, I just sent that, you know, she played a lot of basketball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's why they had hers because she was an older player.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she kind of helped stabilize.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, they, they, they, I think they, they found the, how old is Caitlyn Shen, like, twenty three, the twenty three year olds to actually be more stabilizing than Van Lue was with the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a battle.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think just to add on last piece about my point is that you just know that no team, whether that even be Minnesota or New York or Atlanta, like look at the schedule and they say, oh, yay, we got the Valkyries coming in like easy win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you know that none of those teams are thinking that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that to me is probably more of a surprise in the record, just like the best teams in the league are like, I'm actually not looking forward to playing the Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And as they should be, at the Valkyries are in every damn game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do you want to see in the second half?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there something strategically you'd want to see more of?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is there something, you know, from this person get a little bit more playing time, certain lineups that you would like to see a little bit more of in the second half?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think just kind of on most recent memory, just let yesterday afternoon, it felt like they kind of figured something out with Carla and Ami here picking roll.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And just how the rotations worked out, like they ended up pulling Carla.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, oh man, I wish I saw more of that, because I just kept working.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, here's so athletic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's like a different type of athleticism than Tammy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like a me here's more of like a bulldog.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like she's, I don't know, it just feels like she's more physical and getting to the rim and, and, but Tammy's super athletic as well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, but I thought they kind of figured something out there with the Carla, a me here, picking roll that I would like to see more of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I know that repairs coming in, so I wonder what those a me here, man, it's look like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What else I think I got to see like Janelle kind of I want to see more when when Janelle came in I was like oh we're getting like a defensive dog like she's going to be on like cable level and I feel like that kind of hasn't where I like I think she's very good on the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She loses her player off the ball a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I would like to see, I don't know whether that's what you can do to help that just be more alert and and and always keep what is your your your your your your man or woman between the the basket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the ball or have you position yourself defensively.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All you man that's how they teach it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, I think what I would like to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you know, we've been, you have to be patient with this stuff, which is you lose a bunch of players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you start winning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then now you have to bring those players back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And you want to do it in a way where the cohesiveness and the rhythm and the camaraderie and the team chemistry is still working.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that seems to have been a little bit of a struggle.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Janelle's minutes are very up and down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd probably really depend on whether or not she's making shots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Carla being hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was getting into a rhythm and then she got hurt and then all of a sudden she could not hit a shot to save her life.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, that wasn't a layup.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She finally hit a three yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thankful to see that, but I would love to see

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[SPEAKER_01]: rotationally and maybe this is just more of an NBA thing for me because, you know, we watch the warriors and we can really predict like what the what the line ups are going to be like and when someone comes out when someone comes in, Steve Kerr is very

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[SPEAKER_01]: disciplined in that and it seems like Natalie's more based on a night tonight matchup and maybe that's how you have to be you know I'm still a very early WNBA watcher so I will learn more as well as I see how some of these matchups are and they are a little small so I know that that kind of

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and they're not small and in length, but they just don't have that physical bruiser that some of these other teams have.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so that may be part of it, too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would just like to see more predictable lineups because I want to see who plays well together.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see like you were saying, like, is it is Carla and a me here?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that a go to that you can do?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I love watching a me here play with the basketball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She is athletic, but she also got this like mean streak in her like she goes to the bucket hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And she's not smiling.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's mad dog and everybody like that's her personality and I love that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would also like to see, okay, who are best five?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like who do you think are the best five?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do they have a best five?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if you were to consider, here's their their best lineup to go out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's tied and they have to beat Seattle to make the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there's three minutes left in the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What what's your crunch time five?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably don't feel great about it, but I do think it's starting five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe there's some questions and like they're like you're seeing what the rotations is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It feels like they're most questioning that Janelle spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wonder if I wonder if more Janelle and Kayla together has also been a negative for Kayla that that's something that I wish I would have taken a closer look at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a good point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thank you probably got to go with the starting five because I'm thinking Carla but it's like but Veronica's so steady and then Tiffany kind of does some of the Carla stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then of course you can't take out Kayla maybe there is some conversation between that tell me spot when repair comes it's like okay actually having a reliable three point shooter in that position.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Could be valuable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think Tammy's probably a better roller than than repair.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see, but I would probably say now it's the starting five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, second half is going to be tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is not an easy start to the to the second half of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are home at the the first two games are or not the shouldn't be tough, but as we know, they lost to the they've already lost to the wings, but next Friday, they restart the season page beckers in a reggae, how do you say a reggae's last name?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I that tongue ties me every time I try to say it I will get better at that and then they go to this is this is an insane game So they're in the Bay Area seven o'clock you know game ends at nine thirty they at the shower they get out on a plane

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[SPEAKER_01]: What time do they even get to the East Coast like three, you know, six in the morning or something for them?

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[SPEAKER_01]: They turn around and they immediately play Sunday morning against the sun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So theoretically, that shouldn't be a hard game, but with the travel, it's almost like the WMB made that a hard game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they go at Atlanta.

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[SPEAKER_01]: at Washington at Chicago at Las Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They finally come back home on August the sixth.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with the Aces.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, there are beautiful teams, but to go on the road immediately out of the gate and then have that screwy early morning Sunday game, which is fun for us because we get to watch, you know, the team play early, but that can't be easy for them to play a night game on the West Coast and then a morning game

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, uh, barely over a day later on the East Coast.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's kind of embarrassing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was kind of thinking about that when they did they do Atlanta, Indiana back to back or was there a day in between that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to imagine there was a day in between that because that Atlanta game I think was at like five PM East Eastern time and then

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Indiana one was at like new and eastern time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So nine a.m.

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[SPEAKER_00]: our time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't imagine that was a back to back, but I wonder if the light years with guys if they had any WBA knowledge would have looked at that Indiana game and so like nine a.m.

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[SPEAKER_00]: been like scheduled loss.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was a Monday night Wednesday morning game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, that's a crazy one and a little bit on Dallas is that

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[SPEAKER_00]: Bay Area's Haley Jones man Santa Cruz's Haley Jones she

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[SPEAKER_00]: kind of found her way into the, into the rotation and her and Paige is like, when I think of Haley, I think of just like smart decisions, IQ, when I think of Paige, I think of smart decisions like you guess what, when you put both of them on the floor together, good things are gonna happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they almost came back from like a twenty point deficit against the Aces.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the last thing I want to say about the Valkyries on top of what you said like kind of crazy schedule coming up feels like everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like, feels like there's so many good teams you can't like just say there's gonna be a win, maybe except for Connecticut, but like you said,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It almost feels like if it's Connecticut was a tougher team, you'd probably say scheduled lost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's scheduled lost, but there's probably no team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's probably two teams in the WMBA where you say, OK, I don't know if the Valkyries have a good chance against them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And those two teams have even felt like the Valkyries could have gotten that win against the New York Liberty when Kate hits that crazy stuff and ends up being not that big of a deficit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, they didn't have their full roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Minnesota, they have their full roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, but they had just gotten back from Eurobasket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like the game after they got back from Eurobasket.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they lose those games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But every single other team, we haven't seen Phoenix full strength sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we have lost two times to them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a few things switched where I felt like they just kept putting small players on to want a boner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was like six four and she just kept going to the ram and her partner would throw her lobs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's like, I'm five inches taller than you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But you don't see a lot of lobs in the WMBA, but you saw them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You saw a bunch of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I guess my point is is that like sure they're they're ten and eleven or whatever they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But there's just like, I don't know, like, I even at Lana, like we did lose her Atlanta, but I just felt like they could have won that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Any other team, Phoenix, they could have won that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could have won both those Phoenix games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So but then again, you know, kind of feels like their something that hasn't been going well for them lately is late game execution, especially on the offensive end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if that continues to be an issue, then yeah, that then it's going to be tough to win a lot of these games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it just feels like as as I've, you know, taken the personal like a mental change or just different approach to like, oh wait, this is going to actually be a really good team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's pretty clear that they are, you know, I think they can be in all these games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know if I'd say that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you look at it from a regular perspective, it's like wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they're worse than an Asia Wilson led team Jackie Young led team, but they're not really like, you know, they were in that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so my point is just like Jackie Young was cooking to cooking, but she had like freaking ten free throws or something, but just just, yeah, I feel like they can be within being all of these games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's definitely something to look forward to in the second half of the season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's talk about this weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Friday night just got changed and so did Saturday with Caitlin Clarks injury.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She said this growing injury of late.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess both sides of her growing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She's injured recently and she was going to be the star of the weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She was the

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[SPEAKER_01]: One of the team captains and she picked her all start team and the whole weekend was designed to be her weekend with the Indiana fever and all the all star festivities in Indiana and her pulling out just kind of changes the whole trajectory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure

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[SPEAKER_01]: the idea of what the audience was going to be like for this weekend's game has changed with Caitlyn just being out of it unfortunately, but I still hope that they make her a big part of the weekend because you know, the celebration of the game and the celebration of Indiana.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You remember last year when she said that she was not going to shoot at the three point shoot out because she wanted her first one to be in Indiana and then you have it and then she's hurt.

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[SPEAKER_01]: She can't do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we have a field, the field for the three point shoot out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Let me find this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know what it is, but I don't know who Caitlin's replacement is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I have not seen Caitlin's replacement either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's Alicia Gray as the raining champ.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yep, Kelsey Plum.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's Sabrina Inesco and there's one more right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You sit, Ron.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sit, Ron.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Caitlin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there was only going to be five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that, is that what it was?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Caitlin was the last one in that group.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll see if they replace her or not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't a. Junkwell Jones wasn't she in this last year as well, but she's also hurt right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think you're right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's make a prediction.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who are you going with?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'll give you the percentages by the way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I know Gray's favorite.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, he should grant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's they're even when Kate there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was favored.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, Caitlin's only shooting like twenty seven percent from three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's crazy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She's made like what like two threes and in a way games are three threes in a way games is something crazy like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, so yeah, I wasn't even going to pick Caitlin anyway, but she probably would have been a good underdog considering it was at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but I think I think I'll just take a, I'll take a sleeper candidate and I'll go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know you can't give me Sabrina.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was, I'm taking Sabrina to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I can Sabrina.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what Nike should do is like they should bonus Sabrina every time she wins the three point shoot out because then they're just more opportunity like she should be able to change shoes like during during rounds and stuff because there's a big showcase for her her her basketball shoe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm wondering if Citron's a sleeper just given that it feels like she

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[SPEAKER_01]: could be like a good catch and shoot three point shooter but I know that she's got the second best percentage out of all four of those women and she's got a better percentage than Kelsey Plum Sabrina actually is the worst percentage of all four just I'm talking about this year she's only shooting thirty one percent okay okay got it so then the skills challenge as well

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[SPEAKER_01]: We have Natasha clouds, Skylar Diggins, Alicia Gray, Erica Wheeler, and Courtney Williams.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this this one a lot of the time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, you know, based on someone throwing an airant passes as how they win or if you're Chris Paul and Wendy, you just cheat and then they kick you out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you take in this one?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is there anyone from Indiana?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot the list.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, there's no Indiana players.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Cloud digins gray Wheeler and Courtney Williams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Give me digins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll take Courtney Williams just because so demonstrative out there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think she'll have a lot of fun with this thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we have the All-Star game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the rosters are, uh, team Caitlin is Caitlin.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Without Caitlin.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Without Caitlin, uh, Caitlin, Alia Boston, Alicia Gray, Sabrina Yanescu, Brianna Stewart, uh, reserves on your citron, Ryan Howard, Kiki Irfan, Kiki Irfan, Brianna Jones, Kelsey Mitchell, Angel Reese, pretty psychs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We know

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[SPEAKER_01]: that Ryan Howard and Caitlin are out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And on the west, you have, and if you call your page beckers, Nekka, Satu, Asia, Skylar Diggins, Caleb McBride, Kelsey Plum, Alyssa Thomas, Kayla Thorton, Courtney Williams, Gabby Williams, and Jackie Young, and Satu's out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Satu's out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who do you, who do you want to, I mean, it doesn't really matter who wins or loses, but last year's game, I thought was an excellent game, but they were also playing against the Team USA team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so they were, you know, they were trying to win that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if it'll be that competitive, but what team are you looking to pull it out?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever team Kayla is on, I think she's on Team Caitlin, so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, let's go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's the team I hope.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, she's actually on the thesis team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, she's on the feces team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, give me team Nefisa then.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I guess I have to take the other team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who's your MVP for the game?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't that, I think the athletic pod said that it's like usually a guard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Page would be a crazy hot take.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder who replaces Satu?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who are the reserves again on team Nefisa?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Skyler, Caleb Bride, Kelsey Plum, Alyssa Thomas, Caleb Thornton, Courtney Williams, Gabby Williams, Jackie Young.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Can be Paige, man, MVP.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That would be kind of crazy, huh?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm actually this it seems like the rosters are a little.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're they're not even so I I'm using Wikipedia just because it had a bunch of information so if I have some of these players wrong you can blame Wikipedia so you're going to go page I'm going to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to go against the guard heavy thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think the reason why is because these guards can just bomb threes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like Sabrina would be like an easy pick.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going with the hometown Alia Boston just because

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're going to try to feed her early on because it's a Catholic Caitlin, but also Kelsey Mitchell's coming off the bench, you know, she's not going to be shy to shoot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if she or she's going to start in Caitlin spot, that's actually a good idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's actually that they should do that actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They should absolutely do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I wonder what they're going to do for the thesis side if they just pull in Courtney to start because it's the thesis teammate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, so that's going to wrap it up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What's what's going to be your all-star game viewing experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to try and watch it live.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're going to watch it later.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll probably try to watch it live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I keep wanting to go to Ricky's bar, but I just know that it's going to be too packed and it's going to be too hard to get in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I probably will not be going.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'll probably just watch it from home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we're taking the kids to the beach on Saturday, but I would hope that we will be home by the time the game starts.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I want to watch it too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm supposed to cover the UFC show on Saturday night, and for FW online.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I won't be able to watch all of it because I'll have to start watching the UFC paper view, but I'll also record it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's last year's game was so fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Friday night, I should be able to watch the, I don't like to watch that thing live because I just like to fast forward through all the, yeah, this thing because you can watch it in like, forty five minutes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just for the content.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: As for our channel here and our audio network, Brad was out of town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we did not have a Thompson to Clark.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He will be back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I believe Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll have Thompson and Clark on Monday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: There's a good chance that we're going to bring back my buddy, Draven, for episode two of Giants versus Dodgers, considering the Giants and Dodgers played last weekend.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This was kind of a dead week for baseball with the All-Star game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of a good chance for us to kind of look at Dodgers who are heavily favored to get back into the world series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Giants who are not, but are still kind of hanging around there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We may, if we can pull it off, it'll probably be Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And if we do, we'll live stream that on our YouTube channel.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And all right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then at some point, we're going to have to, we'll talk about warriors when something happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Jonathan Caminga is holding the warriors hostage right now with his contract and his trade possibilities.

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[SPEAKER_01]: By the way, you were in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got to meet Natalie Nicosi.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did you just say hi?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What will happen there?

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[SPEAKER_00]: quickest interaction ever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was in line for to get into the small gym and I saw her briefly and I was like, Oh, no way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did I just see Natalie?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, I wonder if she comes back out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She came back out and I was like, Coach, Nat, I'm going to the game tomorrow and she's like, Oh, nice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, and then you got to see some NBA summer league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So when we do death line up again, we'll have to talk about that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Just give me a little bit of Alex to eat.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Did he get any run?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alex Pooie, you mean.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he was like, I fit that game with that first game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was against Hanson Yang or Yang Hanson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just put my warriors allegiance to the side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was like, I just want to see this guy who

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Alex he was so fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Alex to he was like a minus forty seven.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I heard the warriors that they don't really have any vets on this team so they're just getting smoked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like all they have should be vets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like all the only of like two draft picks and they're both second rounders, but I thought

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[SPEAKER_00]: Terran Armstrong or Terran Armstrong ever your pronounces name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I kind of do M M intrigued by that player and interest to see if he gets any rotation minutes this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what's the other one will read is that his name?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will reader will Richard will read Richard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, nothing much to report on the warrior side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was interested to see who was going to show up on on the sideline for them because it's like a thing whatever team is playing all the NBA stars will show out or at least the young stars.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't see as many like the kd's or the little bronze of the staff show up, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think when they got CP, I want to say that was the first year I went, Steph and CP were there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But for the warriors this year, it was pods, TJD, Quinn post, Gisanto and Kevin Knox, and the joke on Twitter was like, all these things should be in that damn game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they would have won some really if they were, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't agree they should be in that game, but no, no way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They've, they've graduated past those games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think Quentin posts would gain anything from that run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, as kind of warriors have kind of been the most underwhelming team and some are league, been the most underwhelming team for who shows up on the sideline at some are league, been the most underwhelming team for free agency.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at least Steph was in the celebrity golf tournament and at least Jimmy went to support him and at least Jimmy's got the big face coffee brand here in San Francisco in the mission district now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what we got to look forward to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's seventy five dollar shirts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Cheese.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do like that Jimmy showed up at the at Steph's golf tournament.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Things feels like Jimmy by all accounts is like an amazing teammate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's cool that he went to support as long as he's happy because if he's not happy, then he's going to maybe not be the greatest teammate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, that'll be it from here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for Brian, I'm WG, we will see you when we see you next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peace out.