Steph Steady, Jimmy Buckets Dominant in GSW's Win Over Lakers | The Death Lineup

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[UNKNOWN]: Thank you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, it's time for the death line up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're not doing the combined warriors in Valkyrie show, so we will not be doing a Golden State hoop.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Instead, we're just going to do the death line up because there's not a lot to talk about in the WNBA that we didn't talk about last time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're still the CBA thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're still Adam Silver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't think the player's association really liked his commentary about the share

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[SPEAKER_00]: they deserve a share or how they should look at it, but it's essentially still a stalemate and there's been nothing as it pertains to the valkyries because everyone's sort of waiting for this CBA negotiation or what's next and free agency can't start an expansion draft can't start nothing can really start until this gets settled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't know like go on the out of silver on the out of silver front.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I feel like he's kind of in a little bit in the shadows as far as the CBA negotiations have gone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, maybe saying something after the whole Nefisa Kathy thing went down, but this is the first time where I've like kind of heard him speak on it and maybe give like a take on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it was not what the players wanted to hear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like there was a little bit of significance in that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the only reason he talked about it is because he just talks before the beginning of the NBA season every year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could think that's the only reason they talked or that he talked.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it wasn't even really about the WMBA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was just about his introductory to the season kind of thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about the warriors though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the warriors are very worthy of talking about today because they won their opening game opening season victory against the Lakers one 19 to 109 in LA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They were the

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, the PM game on the brand new NBC and being on NBC, I had to go to peacock because that first game went into like quadruple quintuple overtime or maybe it's just two over times it just felt like that game went on forever and so I went on I went over to peacock that whole thing was not very seamless I kind of expected

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[SPEAKER_00]: NBC sports Bay area to have it, but I don't think it did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it was exclusively on peacock NBC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's going to be a little bit of stuff to get used to to watch the NBA this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I mean, I'm kind of wondering how the Warriors have any Amazon games or the Warriors going to have where that's the only way to watch the game is through the Amazon app.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be kind of wild.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that being all that being said, actually liked watching it on Peacock because if you have a 4K television, it looked pretty darn good and hey, they won.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They had a I wouldn't say it was like this resounding like just really put their stamp on the season, but I thought it was a really impressive win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I totally agree, um, definitely a little choppy, which is to be expected in the first game of the season, but I thought overall, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, JK coming alive in the third quarter, Jimmy Butler just kind of taken over really the entire game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Steph, you know, he's still got his.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You look at that stat line.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's a really nice stat line.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you could tell like, you know, if it's always gravity stuff, all around like, you know, definitely some things where I'm like, I felt like the horror for minutes were a little interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And but you could just chalk that all up to like, it's their first game with this group.

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[SPEAKER_02]: which think about I mean the little Richard stuff I heard them say that I'm plus minus today that he kind of looks like he already kind of belongs which I have to agree and it's kind of funny looking at the way he looks on the court and most people will probably be like I was mentioned to me yesterday like

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[SPEAKER_02]: Looks like Jordan pool, not really playing wise, but you know, he has the fresh the the first year JP rookie cut with number three on him like he's like looks like he's like 6 3 to 6 5 like kind of looks like a rookie JP out there just by his is stature.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, they put him on Luca a couple times anything he made a nice lob to maybe it was GP but he was just kind of doing the right things out there you could already see he's going to get minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll talk about will in a second because I do have a section of this podcast where I do want to talk about it It's so funny that you said JP because He's actually better than JP JP's rookie here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is rookie year was rough But he also has the better players because JP came in at an unfortunate time and and where he was during it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay, so Let's kind of go into the game a little bit You know what this game reminded me of

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[SPEAKER_00]: It reminded me of the 2017 season and I'm not comparing Jimmy Butler to KD like KD is a much better player than Jimmy Butler, but there were moments in that season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: where you were like, oh, Steph doesn't have to do everything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is actually kind of cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Steph can, you know, we can afford for Steph to maybe not have his fantastic A plus game and they could still win because there are somebody else to pick up the slack.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is kind of how we felt at the end of last season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think watching Jimmy

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Jimmy was hunting certain players on the lickers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Every time it was Gabe Vincent, he was like, just give me the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like this is barbecue chicken.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he had, who else did he have a couple of different times?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Mark's Thompson said every time he's on a white guy, he hunts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I couldn't remember if it was Austin or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he was there in the radio.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was like, we're not going to get that Jimmy every time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we were like desperately.

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[SPEAKER_00]: looking for that Jimmy a lot during that Minnesota season, but he was in pain and I'm sure he didn't feel like he could do that constantly, but that was the Jimmy where you were like, if he can play like that and let's say, you know, 60 to 70% of the game, he actually plays like they can really play with anybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, are they a title contender with him only doing that, you know, for 50 games during the season?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know because it all depends on the playoffs and it's so funny because, you know, all were as warriors fans were looking for signs on whether this is a championship possibility team or not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that's really what it is to be a warriors fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: These days is like, can they compete with the best teams?

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[SPEAKER_00]: If so,

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[SPEAKER_00]: then we're high on the team and we're kind of excited.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if not, then the whole season is about who can we trade, who can we pick up?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who are they going to go after?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think this time and we compared this to the the championship, the last championship team, there is something about their current roster where you don't want to like say it out loud because you don't want any of these other people to hear.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think as warriors fans deep down were like, okay,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They may not be as good as Oklahoma City, possibly Denver either, but like they're right below those teams at least to start the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see with what the East shakes out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think that we're just looking for clues to that tell us what we think versus telling, versus not telling us the opposite of what we think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought last night was one of those signs where you're like, yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So far so good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's kind of what I thought how they were looking in the preseason and on paper to start this season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you also weren't like, oh, wow, last night was like, oh, they looked also good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you kind of saw like, oh, there are room, there's areas for improvement.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And we're already betting that they're going to get those areas of improvement.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because last night wasn't like this spectacle, you know, I thought that that was that Lakers team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think has a real shot of like

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[SPEAKER_02]: placing six through eight as opposed to like the first six.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know there was no LeBron, but I'm with you on the most part.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think that's a good assessment.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, yeah, I'm I'm not looking at this team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Anything else other than can they win a championship or not?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right now, I think before the season started, I said third in terms of

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[SPEAKER_02]: West contention not necessarily regular season placement and I think I'm still on that train and I am still on that train and so I guess Thursday's kind of a good test but also like I wouldn't be too worried if you know they they did not win that game not that I want to put that already out in the air, but just some stuff they're still working out that you know Denver still working out to so we'll we'll see how that game goes plus it's a back to back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Thursday to then Friday against Portland like that Portland game kind of feels like it's like a throwaway game just just Portland you know being that young athletic team it's not a team you want to see on the back end of a back to back especially when you're an older team like the warriors or say the clippers we're going to get to this in the scheduling too because I have that as another same because I think I think you're you're spot on except

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[SPEAKER_00]: I do think they're going to try and win that game on Thursday tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's too early in the season to chalk a game like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think it's like a test.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they need to test themselves to see if there is good as they believe they are.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think that's how they're going to take a game like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Obviously, we can't not talk about Luca because it's the likeers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Lakers in the brawn and Luca and that's it's going to be a discussion point for the entire season how well the Lakers play will see defensively they are pretty poor like even you know I know they have Vanderbilt and sometimes you just forget he's on the court but

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[SPEAKER_00]: They need some help as far as if they're going to be a contender and maybe they're not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe they're just kind of trying to feel out the end of this LeBron run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it definitely felt like Luca was the A1 player on their team and it sort of made me think like

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[SPEAKER_00]: you realize like we're just going to be seen like look at like four times a year like for like the next five or six or eight years like this is already stalling where he's all in for three times a year so I guess four times is still a lot but we're already seeing him a good amount but he's and he was already giving his problems.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's going to be a pain in the butt for a long time and offense like defensively I don't know what you can do because he has just has this ability to utilize his body to get into players like there was a couple where JK was actively trying to not touch him and he was still leaning into JK and like

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[SPEAKER_00]: bringing his arm up to to make sure it hits jk's hands before he shoots it and just stuff like that this just crafty stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I was saying because I want to continue the loop a conversation to I even brought up the only extra tab I have going into today's podcast is the matchup stats.

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[SPEAKER_02]: from Luca versus whoever warrior last game, but I don't have the stats to back this, but what I feel like has done a better job on Luca in the past for us, well, of course, wigs, but he's not here, but Moses was who did not play.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, just Moses being looks like I lost you for a second.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're back.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... like led Moses not the yeah a mot moses not being available to play like he i think that's kind of a better archetype to guard luka you know moses like six five six six but he has that long wingspan that you know he can kind of just like you know having a longer wingspan defensively is only to be going to be better for you

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I kind of felt like Moses, you know, not being there, Luke, like, let me read you some of these matchup stats.

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[SPEAKER_02]: JK guarded Luke for the most amount of time, eight minutes and 22 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Lucas shot 12 shots and made seven, and that doesn't even account for free throws.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess it does.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It says he only attempted to, but I kind of feel like I remember him drawing more on JK.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There were a couple and ones.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Those are the only ones I remember.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Jimmy was on him as the next most for one minute and 54 seconds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So JK eight minutes, Jimmy won minute and 54 seconds, and Luca went four for five on him in one minute and four seconds.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the rest of the way going down, it's just like, you know, one for two, one for two, two for three, two for two.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Dramon, no shots on Dramon, buddy, two for three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then Will Richard and Quentin post, both zero made attempts, but even the Will Richard won.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I remember him drawing a fall and Will Richard and they're not, it's not here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But this is the MBA dot com website, but well, I mean, if you drew a foul on him, any got free throws, it doesn't, it doesn't, it don't think it counts as a shot of

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[SPEAKER_02]: Cause you know, I guess you're saying they'd only count the n ones.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They don't really show the free throw terms for the n ones.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Got it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think that's probably the case then, but just goes to show Luka just went off on everybody.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think the warriors kind of accepted that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They weren't throwing as many doubles until I felt like maybe the second half came around.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you know, I think they were just like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Luke is going to kill us, but no one else is going to kill us.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Austin Reeves had a pretty good game, but, you know, Marcus Smart took himself out of the game, played game often and gave Vincent, game Vincent wasn't as like impactful that, you know, sometimes he's like a hit or miss and I think one of today, the yesterday was a miss.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Aint in pretty rough stretch to that, I'd say hit the start of his Laker tenure, Vanderbilt sure good defensively, but such a liability offensively that you just weren't

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[SPEAKER_02]: It makes sense that this Lakers roster isn't like perfect for Luka yet because they acquired him at the trade deadline last year, but if you go down top to bottom of the Lakers roster that they've assembled versus the Mavericks roster that had time to kind of build around Luka and those players that they had around Luka, you'd say, you know, I'd rather have Derek Lively or Gaffard over A and I'd rather have Derek Jones Jr. or PJ Washington over Ruey, I'd rather have

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[SPEAKER_02]: you know, Kyrie over Reeves or something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just like LeBron that you'd rather have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And again, it makes sense because they got them at the trade deadline and they're working with this, you know, that this the apron stuff and but I think it's clear that this roster is not built.

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[SPEAKER_02]: to maximize Luca.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so for that, that's why I just don't think they're going to be all that great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I think a Luca team, it's kind of like, Yokech with, you know, when they played him in the first round, when that Yokech team was just awful on paper, but he still got them to the fifth or sixth seed, because he's that good.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's that type of thing where there's a Luca has can raise, can raise the, that team's floor, but I think that team's ceiling, like they're not going to win

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, I don't think that this team is, uh, I'm betting against them as well as all that, that I'm, I'm saying that dude played 41 minutes last night, looked awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, he was, he was great, but you look at it and compare us into the warriors, who do you think played the most minutes in the warriors last night?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would guess Steph or Jimmy, it was Jimmy with 34.

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[SPEAKER_00]: JK-32, Pajemski-32, Steph-32, Dremon-28, Austin Reeves-36, Luke of 41, Rui-35.

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[SPEAKER_02]: How many people played for the Lakers?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it like, again, but everyone, I guess only got like four minutes that weren't like a starter or six nine.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They had nine players play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jeez.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... brawny dotton connect and coloco all were d and p and the warriors played like gosh it played so many players uh... eleven the warriors played eleven quit and post a geese antis got the los amount of minutes only two minutes even played in like the first half two yeah the the thing i was going to say about looka is if you look at his numbers

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... he was uh... let's see was he was he was two for ten from three fifteen of set fifteen of seventeen from two pointers and he was two from ten from three

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[SPEAKER_00]: So some of that is just this man is tired and he can't get to the whole every single time, but on the flip side, defensively he's not great, but they were trying to great and he was trying to big up his defense, oh, you know, because he's lighter and he's in better shape, he's going to be better defensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if he's got to shoulder that load offensively the way that he did, he's not going to be better defensively because it's going to be too tired.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was doing so many things last night, and you mentioned about Gabe Vincent, this is just my own eye test with the lickers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I imagine Gabe Vincent's numbers with someone like LeBron is going to be better than someone like Luca because the way that Luca plays a lot of the times you're going to get an open shot near the

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[SPEAKER_00]: with him because he's so ball dominant whereas with Lebron the ball's going to move a little bit more that's not to say one is better than the other but like for a player like I think there's one that's better than the other but we'll see you know who knows I mean we we don't we did get to see Lebron and Luca for

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, a handful of games and two playoff series last year, there are things to like and there are things that you kind of wonder how they how they're going to fit, but it's we'll see in the defensive and like I think Lebron is so good as far as his basketball brain.

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's going to be able to adapt to just about anything.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he also really loves the basketball in his hand.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Luca has to be mindful of that in order to make sure that they're doing everything correctly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he wasn't there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that was kind of like the story is,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does LeBron make that much of a difference to where you kind of think that this like her team is is going to be something you mentioned eight and today on inside the NBA, which was the first show ever on ESPN.

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[SPEAKER_00]: year taken fadeaways against smaller players like you need to be way better and like I watched it and I was like yeah he's 100% right because what eight and didn't do was see the mismatches for mismatches.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now some of that might be maybe the coach saying hey let's get eight and some touches so that he can get involved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, the lawyers were not afraid of him in any way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he doesn't rebound.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the other thing is he's not a great rebounder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're not too worried about the size mismatch there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, it's kind of just an inch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I wonder how Laker fans feel about their team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've seen so much Twitter stuff about like they're already in the trade machine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: OK, so you mentioned Moses.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now let's talk about Moses because

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[SPEAKER_00]: I almost think Moses moody being injured was a little bit of a blessing in disguise for Steve Kurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now Moses is one of Kurt's favorite players, so I'm sure he'd rather have him than not.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it gave him a reason to play JK and to not take JK out and then you saw JK go up against Luca and try and defend him and we've seen that before and he's trying to get in his chest and

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[SPEAKER_00]: No one's going to do a good job on that guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: J.M.

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[SPEAKER_00]: just seeing J.K.B.

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[SPEAKER_00]: physical was actually really cool to see because you're like, wow, J.K. is like, kind of the same size as this dude and, you know, just from an athletic ability, you think, yeah, he may be able to survive for a few minutes there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: but jk getting the chance to play those 32 minutes, which is what Aaron Turner was saying, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, oh, they don't give him a chance to play all these minutes, and they always take him out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he just needs to play, you know, a lot of starter minutes, and this is what he can do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're like, hey, he got us 32 minutes, and he had a really strong game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe not so much in the first half, but second half, he was excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And Steve,

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[SPEAKER_00]: couldn't even really have the reason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you know, if Moses was there, I'm sure there had been moments where he's putting in Moses for JK, but he couldn't.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's kind of forced to play JK and I thought that was good for not only for JK, but also for like that little relationship between Kurt and JK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was very glowing about him after the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: really who knows what JK's future is, but if JK plays like that and he gives that effort and he gets nine rebounds because he's skying all over the place and then when he gets the rebound, immediately looks for stuff instead of trying to go back up with it in traffic.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like that's all they've been asking him to do and I thought he did such a tremendous job at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did he still have a few of those like should I shouldn't I three pointers in the first half?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then he was a little bit more decisive in the second half and he was he was a hitnum.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just thought it like man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is the JK we've been waiting for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Will it will it be the JK that we see in a month who knows, but for one game, like that, that was the guy that Aaron Turner and JK have been saying that he's been in, you know, he's been cooking.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's been getting ready for this season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Aaron Turner is probably

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, I agree with it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's I think I said it last podcast that JK represents like at his best is exactly what the Warriors need a young player that's looking to take a leap to take, you know, some of the stuff off the veteran shoulders being young being able to play more games when they have to, you know, maybe not play because of some type of load management thing like JK should be able to play and take over like that's exactly what you need.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So now we enter, you know, it's too early to say anything really, but it felt like 80 to 75% of the fan base was an agreement that January February comes around, I'm gonna get him out here.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I know I felt this way before with JK where it's like, look, he's figuring it out, like, like, this should all work seamlessly now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then, you know, something happens and Kurt doesn't play him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it's like, well, we just have this depreciating asset on the bench.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you should have traded him when you should have.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I've been in that position looking back, like you should have traded JK, well, he was hot, you know, to get something.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm, I'm interested to see it play out, and I do not envy Dunlevy's job right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By the way,

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[SPEAKER_00]: if Moses was there, maybe they don't play ghee, but they still would have played 11 guys, maybe even 12.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so how do you handle those minutes now?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Al Horford probably not playing Friday, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like you would guess he's not gonna play Friday, so minutes open up there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're to confirm that he's not doing, like back to X.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But do those minutes open up for Quentin Post?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do they open up your TJD?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's the other part is I'd rather see out out there than both of those guys, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you have to, you have to play this pretty smart.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What a game of GP though, because I felt like they're, it was a little bit of a rough stint for him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And, you know, he's probably like 30 or 31, I'd guess, you know, someone with some injury issues in the past couple of years, I thought he didn't look great.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he missed a couple of bunnies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure, he got a few possessions on Luka.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of what he's there for is to still regard the perimeter at an elite level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he kind of knows how to play with stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, cutting to the basket at the right time, but I'm just wondering if he's maybe the one who they start to look at to take out some of those minutes or if courage is going to trust them because I mean I still trust him defensively, but I think there were just some rough stance where I'm just like dude.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I get it with the warriors that like if you don't have much offensive ability, but you just know how to share the ball and know how to play basketball, quote, unquote, the right way that you're going to kind of figure away into it, but I just felt like there was almost too much offensive ability missing last night to like make up for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had, but then he does stuff like he gets that back door dunk and then they just get all fired up for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, there's also some of that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just one more thing on on horror for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like Dremont's going to mostly still be the small ball five and the close out five.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And and and maybe this is just to kind of get horrified to the end.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He looks really good on that second team and he is not afraid to shoot that shot and he spreads out to court for that second squad, which is really solid because you know, if he's going to be playing with coming up and maybe Jimmy those guys are probably better closer to the bucket than he is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's an interesting thing, but at the same time, I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, Drake still playing a lot of minutes there in the middle, and that is something that they don't have an answer to, so I don't know if you can't just bring in a center to play in this offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: How can, because he's so smart and he has, he has skill sets that blend into that, but it's not like they can go like bring in somebody and go, okay, now you gotta learn this offense and be the five, so it just looks like

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[SPEAKER_00]: and a lot of out and that's just kind of how we're going to do it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Unless Quentin post can actually rebound like there were moments in that game where I was like looking at him going like Does he realize that he's the center in this thing like what what is he looking at the basketball for like Why isn't he just go get it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the tallest guy on the court and he's just like watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like yeah Someone's going to someone's going to point that out on film and didn't even get it three point shot off.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I didn't look at the I don't think so

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[SPEAKER_00]: So zero for zero.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he, he did not shoot the basketball at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He got two rebounds, one assist, and he had a foul.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What one thing I will say is that like small thing on QP because I was just watching the game because like, I was, I was watching at a friend's house.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I don't think he had peacock downloaded on his TV.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So of course, we had to sit through like that whole WOT before the Warriors game came on that I just threw it on my phone to watch it on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: peacock and say with my other buddy, but so I act before this podcast, I put on the all possessions of version of the NBA league pass to kind of see what I mostly missed out on in that first half.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think it might have even been the third quarter that just play happen, but quits in and he gets the ball at around the free throw line.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I think last year, it's like just an automatic, like, all right, I'm at the free throw line, like I'm going to do whatever I can to score.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And this year, not that I'm saying it's better, but there was a clear intent

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[SPEAKER_02]: head was looking around quick to see if he can make a pass and he did take too long to make a pass.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But he still found pods for a fade away midi.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's his one assist.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'm wondering like that's probably been hammered into him that like you know you get the ball and like if you don't you maybe assess if you're like it's an easy bucket for you or not but like kind of be more on the start to try to be more passive.

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[SPEAKER_02]: and I think he's battling through that right now because I wouldn't say that was a good representation of what that should look like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he has to be has to be instinctual for him too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He has to know where those guys are on that play so that he's not looking around so that he just like he just knows.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, he can read the defense and go, okay, this is where I'm dropping the pass.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's going to take time for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he

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[SPEAKER_00]: He played a decent amount, I would say, in the second half of the season last year, but still a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He only played because of other reasons, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That didn't seem to us like it was the plan and he kind of forced himself in by hitting some threes and just being in fiery.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, now I mean, the scouts out, you know, like you don't see as much drop on him, like he didn't get a shot off for a reason, you know, there are people playing up, so how do you adjust?

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right, let's talk about the rotation.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So we saw Pajimski started, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was curry pods.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jimmy Butler coming in and dream on and then buddy healed was like the super sub GP Horford will Richard Gielne got a couple of a couple of minutes and and then Quentin post got a few minutes so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: when moody comes back that he's going to probably start is my guess and does that push pods to the bench?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who does that or does that push coming?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm guessing I will guess cominga gets pushed to that second team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would guess cominga to start.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I would argue that maybe that moody cominga with JK, I mean moody cominga with Jray, Steph, and Jimmy might be

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, I think, I think pods will start.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think Kirk liked that ball handling playmaking as a starter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then, now, this is not going to happen for a little while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Anthony Melton comes back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, who gets hooked and who gets pushed?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's going to be interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Melton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: because he's gives you another ballhandler.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You probably want him with with pods just just to have because you don't need necessarily the ballhandling with stuff is there, though, maybe you feel like Melton can handle defensively whom ever the best player offensive player to their team is, if they're a guard, but like

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like a Swiss army knife in a sense because you know that last year and that little time that he just fit in so well and he's a vet and he's smart and he's going to do the right thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time you don't want to take minutes from pods and you don't want to push buddy back because you unless you just know it's not buddy's night because like last night, do you see when Luca got so mad at him?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Did you see that part?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think I think buddy said something when he hit the three hit a three and and he must have said something and Luca went cycle mode.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look like he was trying to fight him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And buddy's back peddling and I was like, oh, the nonsense and say anything there and Jimmy, Jimmy went in and grab Lucas saved his best friend.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so like, yeah, Steve is going to have, I don't know if Steve necessarily wants all these rotations and what to do, but I do wonder if it's going to be more strategic around.

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[SPEAKER_00]: night's off for staff, night's off for Jimmy, but you can, you can kind of do that when the depth increases with the Anthony and and moody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're just set in case there are longer standing injuries, but it's just going to be so interesting to see how they play this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I'm not even sure that a good problem on their hands, you know, if Melton is kind of able to be what a version of what he was last year and, you know, that team, I didn't believe in them,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, they, they look good to start the, yeah, the melted, but buddy, you bring a buddy it I'm just like, how do I even forget about bringing his name up like he had a pretty good game last night, just like he's so clear that like buddy healed the has to be in this rotation no matter what.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And not that he was ever in a like a chance that he'd get pushed out of it, but just so many players like from the guard perspective, it's like, okay, you start stuff pods or you start stuff melton and then you still have, you know, pods heal those your guards to like it's just it's a it's a it's a good problem to have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you were to guess, who do you think led the team in rebounding last night?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would probably go, I feel like we would have heard about it more, Phil's JK, so I'll go with like Dramon.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was JK, we haven't heard anything about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Dramon and Pods had seven boards, JK had nine, and then I won't even make you guess about this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: with six, Dramon had nine, JK had six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he was the tied for third leading score with buddy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just all around, you know, he had his two turnovers, but, you know, Dramon had four stuff had two, buddy had two GP head three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those were probably the things that you were mentioning, offensively, he only played 12 minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He had three turnovers, and then,

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... steel c. did have a steel stiff was the only one with more than one stuff at three and i think those all came in like the first quarter if jake can eliminate some of that just like weird mid-range fade stuff that's like completely like they used to be like face up shots in the mid-range that did were cash and now they're like total fades if you can like get rid of those a little more and just like make contact at the rim more like i i don't know because i feel like we just get like he's in the air so long

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, Jimmy does a little bit of a bit of it, too, but Jimmy is able to get to the line more and and make those shots more if he could just like get up and someone into the rim.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like man, like you know how Luka was and he can't be Luka, but Luka was basically just like getting to his right side and they're letting him to get to his right side.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So on Luka's right side was the hoop and on Luka's left side was a defender.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's like now he just has this easy bunny that's like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not, not that, of course, JK can always replicate stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But how do you just get to that spot?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Just get to that spot and raise, because you're so athletic and rise.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's end this conversation with some discussion about Will Richard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you want to see him on the court, but then we just mentioned the rotation and with a D Anthony Melton and with

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[SPEAKER_00]: a buddy healed like you don't he's just going to be on the bench for the most part unless

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[SPEAKER_00]: a game like Portland, like let's say that Al decides not play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's say that they, you know, let's say that they're light on Jimmy minutes or dream minutes or stuff minutes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You kind of just go, okay, just let pods and let Richard and JK and maybe Moody's back and his let those guys just run up and down the court with Portland.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, nobody likes to just

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[SPEAKER_00]: lose, but Steve will talk about schedule losses, and I almost wonder if there's any value in getting will some early early run in a game like that, where maybe you have to rest of better to and just to see right, just to see how he plays in that style, he's going to be playing against a team of young guys who just get up and down the court and chuck threes and

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe, you know, you're just saying, okay, like they have some great prospects.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, we'll let our young prospect go up against those guys and see what happens if they pull that off like I'll I'm going to start saying.

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[SPEAKER_02]: some championship like things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they remember that in 2021, they were doing some of that stuff and they beat like a Dejonte Murray led spurs team with just like JP moody and JK and some of the other guys like they started doing some of that stuff again.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no, I agree with you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think it's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, you know, we'll Richard six four.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's like a okay see point guard, but like a golden state warrior small Ford like so

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, he might not, you might not just slot him in as like he's in that guard rotation.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He could even be a little bit in that forward rotation because he's got, I think he's got a longer wingspan.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, no, they, they should definitely throw him out there early.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Don't really see why they wouldn't unless, you know, Moses is back, I guess.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we have a report on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think he's day today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not like, yeah, I wasn't I didn't even know that he wasn't playing until I saw like some and later in the first quarter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, wow, where's Moses?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he, you know, he just wasn't there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the idea of Richard is really fun right now, but if you had like, let's say the warriors.

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[SPEAKER_00]: for some reason have their health and they're not having to deal with injuries up and down this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like you're 10th or 11th guy, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he isn't really in any of these games when you're full squad, shout out to David Lee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if that happens, that's like that's like the perfect scenario and then the dude just playing a lot in Santa Cruz, I guess, because you don't

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[SPEAKER_00]: And like I said, we have to go to some Santa Cruz games to see because remember when we went to the we saw JK who well it was moody and JK right when when when we were to Santa Cruz yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we went again one another time who do we go to see that time was that in the Golden State building though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No, no, no, this was at the Santa Cruz member Felix came with us that one time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was the JK.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, that was the JK game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought we'd gone with it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was that did.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, we come to that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that's the one I'm thinking of.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, so I want to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to it's it's hard to say I want to see him play because if they have their best roster, he's not going to get a lot of playing time, but this is why you can do it early on because you don't have Moses and maybe you want to rest a guy or two and you're like, okay, he's going to play because he's here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So let's see it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, the best case scenario if you're winning, if you're just having your best lineups, he's probably not playing and he's probably playing a lot in in Santa Cruz.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So

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[SPEAKER_00]: just something to keep an eye on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so they play the nuggets and then they play the trailblazers back to back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: First home game, that's important.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You had mentioned last week that they have just had a terrible time playing the nuggets in the regular season, since they beat them in the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, these games are not

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[SPEAKER_00]: out of reach.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're close games that they're, the nuggets are just pulling out because they got the best player in the league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they're going to try and win this game, not saying that they're not trying to win whenever they play him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think there is like a, they need to prove it to themselves that this team has some things that they can throw at Denver that may be Denver isn't expecting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And also like Denver's changed to, right, that they have no no more,

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[SPEAKER_00]: that who knows, you know, Jamal Murray did not look fantastic last year, though he had some some playoff moments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're in a little bit of a change, but I think most people think that they made some good adjustments to the roster for the better.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, you kind of have to the chemistry and everything is all adapting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the beginning of the season,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, maybe it is an opportunity for the warriors to kind of punch him in the face.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm actually looking a lot forward to that game tomorrow, just to see because They dealt with the one man show in Luka now they're going to have another Yokeage game can they turn that into a little bit more of like a

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[SPEAKER_00]: one man show kind of thing and take away some other stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, but I think I just think that they're going to be so wired to show that they are like at that level.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I mean, they're coming off of again, like you said different team, but they're coming off of a win from them.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They got their first win since they had beaten them in the playoffs in 2021 or

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, the nuggets did not have a Jamal Murray, but the Warriors beat them 1-18-104 a couple months ago in last season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So they're coming off of a win.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like I absolutely think they believe that they're going to win this game as they should.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it's Denver's first game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's yeah, it's Denver's first game too.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're seeing them on their first game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're first look.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They're seeing us already a game in think that I think that goes well that boats in our advantage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think they are going to win that game are that are they in Denver or in Golden State.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's a golden state their first home game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I like I like our odds.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if you're looking at Denver's roster, Cam Johnson instead of MJP, they also have valentunus as a backup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they can, they go from one giant big and get them 15 minutes of rest and you bring in the other giant big.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Christian Braun got paid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Aaron Gordon had a horrific end of his last type of end, they both had that same hamstring thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and he tried to play in that last game and it looked rough.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was not, it did not look like it was any fun whatsoever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's just a good matchup.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, we see, we're going to see Luca at ton.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've seen Yoke Chetan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's not going away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, unless he just decides to retire for some reason, but why would you when you're at your peak?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So these are just going to be the guys that they're going to have to beat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And for whatever reason, I'm just feeling like this,

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[SPEAKER_00]: up for the test and they're going to want to experiment with stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to want to see they're not going to want to show them everything, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they're going to want to see how some of this stuff that they do or that they can do with this current roster works against the nuggets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then if you if you can win on Thursday, then you just how it just let the young bucks just run up and down the court on Friday and see what they got.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then if you lose on Thursday,

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[SPEAKER_00]: be a little bit more deliberate in the Portland game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the same time, this Portland guys are athletic and fast.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like that one preseason game didn't they put like 50 points on them in like one quarter or something like they were they were running up and down the court in that game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anything else that we did not get to that you wanted to hit on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's can't really still can't really talk much about Valkyries.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's no good to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not going to be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, you know, I know you were watching the, uh, the yearly game with you stay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She had a, she, she's, she's, she's, she's ball and so we also got the, the women's baseball team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go, you know that you're not even playing in San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What, then what is the, what is it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think what they're doing is for the first season, they're just kind of traveling to different areas to kind of like promote the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, they may play some games in San Francisco, but it's not going to be like a home field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just like traveling kind of thing for that first December to go by name for the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's summer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was actually like, we should go to opening night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We should, well, they, I think they, you know, that it's a possibility that maybe they have a special game at Oracle or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That would be fun to go to be cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, that is it from here, unfortunately, or maybe fortunately for you, lawyers, fans, you know, we stayed on the deaf line up stuff and hopefully, you know, hopefully there'll be some more information from the WMBA coming, but a lot of people are also saying,

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe not, and I think their deadline that extension, it's 30, the 31st of October, that's getting pushed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, and the further it gets pushed, the less news there will be about the league and all the news that we'll be talking about on this podcast about the WMBA will be all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: CBA stuff, which isn't the most fun stuff to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, if this deadline gets pushed that bad, like maybe it really is just like we just talk about like the Valkyries performances overseas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know, you might not be tapped in, but I'll try to watch a couple more.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And even no off season, the Athletics WMBA podcast, they were doing redrafts already.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To 2019 redrafts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because I was intrigued, that's before I started to really lock in on the WMBA.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I was interested to see what I missed.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was a damn good draft, but they were talking about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But man, I really wonder how this is going to impact like the expansion draft, like it totally is going to impact it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess I can say that the tempo have a coach now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: the tempo have sandy brondello as a coach what a great get for your first coach.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just still rather have coach Nat and then you know the Portland fire also have a coach who is from the Cleveland Cavaliers organization and I guess they really liked him so and I guess he has ties to Vaughania.

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[SPEAKER_02]: uh... who was in a part of the valkyries and then she went to become the gm and they're likely going to draft the player i wanted for the valkyries because vania likes her overseas players just like the valkyries do because she was a part of that draft room uh... and all of them so

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[SPEAKER_02]: what was I going to say, but I totally forgot we have college women's basketball and men's I'll try to keep up a little bit, but I'm fully locked into the women's side for for hoops and for for college hoops especially.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I just think it's more entertaining to watch like, oh, jiu-joo's here and for her freshman year, I get to see her for four years as opposed to AJ debons style.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I only get to catch you for one year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like, I don't feel like, oh, I need to watch you if I'm, you know, I just I'll wait next year for the NBA, you know.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, that I have intriguing in women's college basketball and I'm excited to get it going and next week when we do our next show We'll have more warriors games under our belt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll also be able to watch some of these games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I cup of flag is about to play Wemby in Like a half an hour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's that's fun stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That thing's going to come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Making dinner.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is it for me here We will see you next week for Brian WG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See when we see you piece out