April 20, 2026

SF Giants vs. Dodgers Preview: Tony Vitello’s First Rivalry Series Test | Thompson 2 Clark

SF Giants vs. Dodgers Preview: Tony Vitello’s First Rivalry Series Test | Thompson 2 Clark

Brad Evans and Garrett Gonzales preview the high-stakes series against the Los Angeles Dodgers and discuss how rookie manager Tony Vitello will handle the pressure of the rivalry. They break down the Giants' recent 3-3 road trip and what it will take to secure a home win at Oracle Park. They also wonder if the Giants as they are currently structured will ever hit enough consistently to be a good offense.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just time for Thompson to Clark, Brad and I are back on a week where if we look back on the bright side, the Giants did not have a losing week on the dark side, they didn't have a winning week either.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They split, they split the last six games since we last talked, which was the Saturday recap of the Baltimore series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: in the Washington series, where you were like, hmm, there's actually a little oomph here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's some passion here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's, you know, the team is, they may have given up the lead, but they were ready to take it back and then they played with some fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on Sunday, they just, I, did they get a guy past second base on Sunday?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, I don't even know if they did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... i don't think so some day was more kind of like um... they just stand hotel it kind of felt like right i mean it was just uh... yeah i don't i don't think they got a runner past second right i don't think so one but yeah because uh... case you man had a lead off double on the eighth i think it was for the ninth

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[SPEAKER_01]: And how is it kind of it?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was back to boring baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, it's, it's, it's not,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't mean to take away from the goodness of those first two games you go into Washington.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You should beat them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you are a good baseball team, now the giants have not shown that they are a good baseball team yet, but if you want to be a good baseball team, you had to go take two at a three from Washington.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But as a fan who actually has higher expectations than 81 and 81,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, the way that I looked at that series was like, okay, you won one, the first game convincingly like you just powered through that team got into double digits and we both made the joke of like, come on guys, you guys always do this and then you don't save it for the next game, so then you end up not scoring.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then in the second game,

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[SPEAKER_00]: They didn't get great pitching, but they, they were able to score runs when they needed to see or like, okay, like, that's actually a good sign.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But because the Dodgers are coming to town, my thought was, oh, man, if they take this third game and they do so in a really strong way, like it actually is going to create some excitement for the Dodgers coming to town, it's going to give some fans hope and stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the way that they played Sunday, I was like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, you got to eat at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We're 22 games into the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are in last place.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 22 or 22, I think it's 22.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're their last voice tied with the Rockies and the Dodgers Padre's and Diamondbacks are all playing pretty darn good baseball and I went to see the Padre's on Tuesday night got to got to see pet go hadn't been paid code over 10 years and that that's a really nice ballpark it's a fun spot and you know that just the the weather and San Diego's always good so how can you not be in a great mood when you're out there but I you know I watched that team and I was like man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they, they have an offense that I wish the giants were a little bit more like now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Of course, they have Tatee, so they have Machado and Ramon, Moriano is like playing out of his mind right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you have guys like Jackson, Merrill, who he can hit for power and he can run and he's very exciting and they were doing a lot of stuff because that was explaining to Crystal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the pickoff moves and why she's like, how come they, how come they can only throw over their twice.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so we were, I was kind of going through the rules with her.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so she was actually watching for steals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: She was like, okay, I'm now I'm going to watch for steals.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so just the threat of San Diego being able to run with, you know, half of their line up is cool.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I looked at the giants stolen bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have five stolen bases in the first 22 games and they are dead last.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think anyone has less than 10 in the national league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's just these teams are built so differently.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the Dodgers are mashers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Padres can actually do a little bit of both, and I haven't really watched much diamondbacks to see what they're doing offensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the giants are hit singles in station to station.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's really been the the opposite of what they want to be yet the roster that they put together.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is that so we'll talk a little bit about kind of where the offense is and whether they can improve or if this is just kind of who they are at the back end of this of this show, but I just going to see the Padre's live.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Even though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure the Padre's fans do not have faith in the Padre's winning in the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is a very fun team to watch play baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now they could use, you know, if you put the Padre's offense with the giant starting pitching, you probably have a team that could compete with the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Padre's bullpen, I take their bullpen right now, way, open, you know, the closer

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jason Adams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they have the lefty moray hone moray hone and he's just thrown fire, sinker ball fire, you know, sinker ball just thrown gas like that, you know, they if they get some starting pitching, they they may have a chance to compete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So just just watching another team and then comparing them to your team, it was kind of an interesting exercise for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's also a team that we beat two out of three, a couple weeks ago.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We did, and speaking of a couple of weeks ago, I think we did a show two weeks ago, and I was touting that the giants were middle of the pack with installing bases.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They had five, two weeks later.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, the running has just stopped.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's a little bit hard to watch sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think something happened with Brad's mic here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He went on mute.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got it back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you hear me now?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I can.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, cool.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I might find things because I'm so angry.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hit the cable.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When they go on a tear offensively for three straight games, you think, okay, we've turned a quarter things are starting to turn on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But then you look and you still see that that

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[SPEAKER_01]: two home runs and Adama still has two home runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it, it's, it's offense, but it's, you know, singles, doubles, singles, doubles, and then the other night they had three home runs in one game, but, but that's so few and far between, yes, not the home runs coming.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's, and like you said yesterday too, we were talking on the chat and you said, you know, it's, it's kind of a false offensive explosion and I thought, no, I don't think it is because

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they can minimize the bad games they have in between, maybe it's not, but then when you look deeper into it You start looking at how they're scoring runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, yeah, they had 15 hits one night, and I think they had 13 the next day But again, they're not getting the The murderous three run home run in the eighth inning to go up by six.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It just breaks the will of the other team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah You know, it's it's not a scary

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[SPEAKER_01]: offense, I think is what I'm trying to say.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the giant teams of the past that

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, even one world series teams, they didn't really hit that three run home or to put games away either, but then what they had was a bullpen that was like, eh, three one, three two, this game is over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It does like just get us past six and we're shutting this thing down and they don't have that right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So every time, you know, we've been kind of in the chats when the giants are up by a runner to late, we're like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: who's shutting this one down because we have no idea who's going to close and then Ryan Walker comes in and you know I know he had to stretch a little bit and that you know that didn't work out when he got stretched but then I don't think Vitello knows who his guy is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think he knows who he can believe in late in the games and maybe his two best arms are

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[SPEAKER_00]: But they've never been in that role.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wins coming off of an injury.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could look at Tidwell, Tidwell's super young, and they've actually, he's actually a starter who's relieving.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, I don't see any one person who's going to be the ninth inning guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, on the thing with that, too, is if you're looking at the future and a lot of these guys are young pieces in the bullpen,

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you're going to have them learn on the job, you got to start now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, give them a full season of learning on the job to the point where you go into spring training next season and you say, this is our closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you've learned on the job as little rocky to begin with, but then later in the season, shut everybody down is the closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, we thought we had that in Ryan Walker, at the end of 2024, but then 2025 started and things kind of blew up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: August and September of 2024.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So you don't really have that that full season close or experience.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, I think we went over this like last month or so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know around when.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, we had a closer that we could sit there and go, this is our closer for the next two seasons, three seasons, because even Camilo did all, when he was our closer, he was still, he still had a rough patches, and we still were never sure if this was going to be the guy and then he gets traded.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's kind of tough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at the good teams, and you look at the teams that are going to play off, and you look at the teams that are winning world series,

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, take the Dodgers out of it because they have enough offense to win a world series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's not a big deal for them.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they also have enough, you know, piece together starting pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You can have Yamamoto close out the last game series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just like we had bum garnering in 2014.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean, you don't necessarily have to have a 40 save guy to be your closer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you have a battle tested closer, who does have 40 saves, two seasons in a row, that's the guy you want to trust in game seven in the world.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sir, as you're bringing in your horse, you're bringing in that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't want to say, I'm going to bring in this guy and let's see what happens because he did well in matchups in late May, and then a little bit in June, and then a little bit in September, he was good against lefties and we've got three lefties coming

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'd rather have a guy who's seen lefties and righties throughout the season gotten himself 40 saves, 35 40 saves, and then can come in and shut the door.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Not I'm not saying that we're going to be in game 7 of the world soon, but I'm saying next year in the year after and that's our aim, that's kind of what we're going for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know we that Randy Rodriguez is a guy, but I still even last year I was jokingly calling him eighth inning Randy because I was just more comfortable with him in the eighth inning than I was in the ninth inning, but you could see them possibly thinking about him as a guy to be the ninth inning guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So going back to your closer thought, because one of the pieces of news today

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[SPEAKER_00]: was Edwin D is going on the DL.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was reading up on some Dodger stuff yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they were really worried about him because the last time he came in, which was, I don't know if it was the second or the third game of the Rocky series, but it was basically he didn't come into a safe role.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they said his fastball was down to 92 miles an hour.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he's still

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[SPEAKER_00]: it sounds like he's still got some trouble with that knee that went out on him in that last world baseball classic like I don't know if it's the same injury or if it's just a different injury in the same leg but they mentioned that but also now he's got this elbow injury so you could go well why don't we just go buy a closer and the Dodgers just went and bought one of the best

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[SPEAKER_00]: who is like maybe the best closer that we've seen in a little while, but they do, that's a thing though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They built up their bullpen and enough.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're now they've got Alex Vesia or they've got Tanner Scott.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have great show me Tanner Scott me me and Patrick Bailey want to see Tanner Scott.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know that's true That's true.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I know I did I'm in two fantasy leagues and I hovered over picking them up and one of them today I was just kind of I had my finger over it finger over it finger over it and I was like I'm just going to do it

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I grabbed him and I ended up dropping the astros makeshift closer that they have right now, not a pray you, but the other guy who Dalea Santos, who's just, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I thought, you know what, I want to go with a team who's winning because a guy like Tanner Scott is going to come into his situations where he's got a two-run lead.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the thing too is if they blow a save,

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[SPEAKER_01]: the Dodgers in the ninth, and now you've got to tie game going to extra innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're a Dodger fan, do you feel good about your chances in extras?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I sure would.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's watching us try to get a runner home from second, the other night in three extra innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was painful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's the Nationals.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were so lucky to have Caleb Killing out there along with wind to be able to shut down and we were lucky

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the nationals were in apt also an extra in these trying to get a runner home, but trying to watch and us try to get a runner home was so painful.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I had no if you're a Dodger fan, you're sitting there going, oh, with bottom of the 10th inning and we are runner at second automatic runner at second, I think we're probably going to win this game at 90 percent chance are going to win that game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and we'll look at as we look at the giants offense, I'll use the judges as a comparison because these teams are so vastly different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And of course, we know that based on the the spend the spend of both teams, but it is incredible the delta in between these two teams when it comes to certain statistical categories.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So looking ahead, Dodgers coming to town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Game one Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It may rain actually.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've been seeing some stuff about, you know, could get rained out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're still getting snow here in Tahoe, I think tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I can't even imagine what the Bay Area is going to be like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it, is it Yamamoto and Showhay for Game 1 and Game 2?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw that you know where, but I wasn't sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They still have to be determined.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if they've officially announced it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, um,

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine we're going to see those guys at some point during this series because I think they're supposedly lining up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, those are two guys that they want to have on six man rotation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think they have six men right now, though, because Blake Snow is this one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the game does get rained out, it probably will be helps them a little bit so they could.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think so, guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because I know you're looking at probably a double header on what is that, uh, Wednesday, Wednesday, Thursday, most likely.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, probably not on the getaway day, probably on Wednesday, they'll do a double header.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's interesting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they do, we haven't seen a double header in a long time out here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's been a while.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, the giants are going to throw root Molly and web.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I believe that is what is scheduled.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, Logan Web has not been good this year, or not at least to what we believe or what we expect from him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He did have the WBC Stint, and so I'm sure that is something that Buster Posi is going to remind him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Just in case he wants to pitch in the WBC again, maybe not, it's still a few years away.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think they need him, and this would be a great game for him to get back to his

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm really worried about the Molly start and maybe he'll surprise us, but I this is sounds like three innings and then you're using up your whole bullpen to finish that game and your hope in Logan goes nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But Roop has been a great surprise, so he looks like he's competitive.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That curve ball will probably be competitive against the Dodgers, but it'll be kind of like an

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is a team I got to be ready for, not that he hasn't pitching to Dodgers before, but you know now there's expectation around him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I mean, he's got a lot of confidence against the Dodgers, and he gets up for big games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I'm looking forward to that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Maui and Houser have not had whatever they had seven starts and not one single quality start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What I think one of those was not really Houser's fault.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think he was very, if I remember that James made some errors behind him with something which caused him to come out early.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my thought is, it's kind of funny because when you think, okay, Dodgers are coming here, we need to take two at three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's almost like the expectation for the giants is just get one and it's not a failed series, which is crazy, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's not how you really think about this.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I agree.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's we weren't talking about it today and I like to do just for fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not a big AI person, but I like chat GBT for that type of stuff because you know, it pulls from a bunch of different sports horses, but I put it in there today just to say, what are our chances?

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was pretty much like you'd be lucky to get one out of three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, but that one out of three could be the Logan Web start, but they said you could also, you know, chatGPT said we could also maybe steal one, you know, the, the, the,

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[SPEAKER_01]: The root start is a possibility that we could steal one if you can keep it under 30 runs, like two or less runs, the Dodgers do have big innings.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was looking at fan graphs today, it's not pretty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, when you look at it, it's just, it's kind of rough to look at.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at hitting, you look at the Dodgers versus the giants, the Dodgers have 37, 37 home runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And we have 13, they've scored 121 runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We've scored 75.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at the WRC plus, they're at 138, which is World's above anybody else, and we're at 86.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So offensively it's just it is one of those things you you just have to have good pitching against the Dodgers you have to shut them down offensively if you have if you're going to have any chance because especially us you know offensively are are we going to win seven is six ball games against the Dodgers I don't think so against the national sure but against the Dodgers it's going to be a little bit more difficult to to to roll off seven runs I think a game and I would it I would imagine

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[SPEAKER_00]: Vatelo understands that, which means to me that I wonder if he's going to manage these games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a little bit more like you would a not really a playoff game, but just look at like a picture school.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right, that you have to shut, you know, we have to shut these possible rallies down because if not this game could get away from us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that is a really interesting thing that I want to see is how seriously, you know, because it is only

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[SPEAKER_00]: game 23 through game 25, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, you cannot just go, okay, we got to use our three best relievers to get out of this one inning on Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then what are you going to do for Thursday Friday?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You do have to be smart about it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You do have to trust some guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I do wonder if he's going to manage this one a little bit more closely to how you would manage a big game versus

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, some of the stuff that we've seen where he lets the starter go out there and basically kill himself like Molly and his last start.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like this dude is still in the game and I like I guess they're just he's kind of hunting it in a sense, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: To save for for for the the last game, which they did win that that third game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to make a comparison here to the soccer heads out there if there's, you know, people, if you're a sports fan, you know, you follow baseball, you probably fall a little bit of soccer as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it's kind of like when you have one of the weaker teams go against a big team like man city in the Premier League.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have a weaker team like Stoke, you're going to what they call Park the bus.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's, you're going to put your defense, play back, play in front of the goal, don't

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[SPEAKER_01]: the big powerful team score, then that way, if you happen to get a break away, maybe you can steal a goal or two, and then maybe you can pull off a one-nothing upset, or a two-one upset, but you're going to play defense, and you're going to stay back and try to do everything you can to not let them score.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I know baseball, that's the name of the game, but you

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[SPEAKER_01]: said it's not like soccer where in baseball, you can expect pictures are going to give a one or two runs a game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're having a fantastic season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This kind of feels tighter than that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If we're giving up two runs a game or three runs a game, it's going to be a very difficult series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So like you said, I think it's going to be more of the park, the bus mentality, you could see a runner at third and then feel drawn in in the first inning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't be

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the giants play the Dodgers, then the marlins come to town.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the marlins are so far a good home team and a bad road team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you would hope.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that as long as the giants get through the series with the Dodgers in tact that they could then turn around and take two at a three from the marlins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, if we're going to if we are out now trying to win these games, and maybe they're a little bit more important and you know, we use some some bullpen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: that may not be great for the Marlon series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So again, this is one of the things that, you know, it's very going to be very interesting to see how Vatello manages the series because they're going to be implications for the next series depending on how much they tax their pen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I wanted to look at the the offense and and I wanted to get your thoughts on what could be improved.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is probably going to to be the same.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they may have to make some decisions as far as.

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[SPEAKER_00]: adjusting the roster.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's not like there's anybody in the pipeline right now, though, you know, in two years, there could be, but outside of Bryce Eldridge who as we've discussed is kind of hard to add to this team without changing fundamentally how this team plays.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Adamus leads a team in home runs with three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the Dodgers have like seven or eight guys who have at least three home runs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Easily.

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[SPEAKER_00]: When I look at the RBI numbers, it's it's actually kind of interesting because so far, I think we would kind of think that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ramos's year has been.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a disappointment.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, he does lead the team in strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Actually, no, he's second behind Devours, but he does have 13 RBI.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We know some of RBI is luck, but he and Chapman have 13 and 12.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the average, now, you know, this is a back of the baseball card stat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who do you think leads the team in batting average in Danny, Susac is not available because he

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm looking at the numbers now, so I'm cheating.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is Casey Schmidt, which is kind of surprising, because he started off so poorly and yet he has been picking it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now he doesn't have much in the way of, you know, tremendous power numbers, but he does have seven doubles and he doesn't walk, which is part of the problem, but

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[SPEAKER_00]: But that's everybody's problem on the giant screen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, he's playable, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's definitely playable and because he is actually hitting you, kind of got to get him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like his OPS is 120 points higher than Adamus' and then it goes down from there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the giants only have four guys who are over 700 in OPS.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not much power.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's only got one double in two triples and twenty two singles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like I said, they just play the station to station ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, is there anything that you're seeing that will adjust or that will even out or that things will change a little bit?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because I think the person that we were hoping

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[SPEAKER_00]: that would kind of, uh, maybe step up and, and with a rise, kind of take the style of a rise is Jung Hulian.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he just had, he's hitting 244 and 299 on base.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, he's not striking out a lot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's actually, you know, decent with the strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But he's got six doubles in 13 singles in one home run, or 12 singles in one home run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: if you came into the season, expecting him to play up to the value of his contract, you are vastly disappointed in this scenario.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like is there anything you're seeing that gives you any thoughts that this could change?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, I just wanted to defend Jung Hulu a little bit, but not the contract because he's not playing into the contract still, but over the last week and a half, he's hitting 344, he's had a fantastic road trip.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, again, no power numbers because we thought coming into this, you know, after the contract, we're always going to be a 15 to 20 home run guy is going to steal a lot of bases, it's going to get on plate base play a lot of defense.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well,

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's right now, he's Luis Arise, but he plays right field and, you know, makes great plays and right field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's pretty much it the last week or so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We need to see that sustained.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, I think I think the basic, what we're going to see here is let me jump back to

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[SPEAKER_01]: the actual dates going here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to see Devers slug 315 the rest of this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You're not going to see Ramos slug 385.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he's going to, and now Ramos is streaky, we're going to see that, you know, kind of come and go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Chapman is hitting what 290.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Still just fine.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's been fine, but again, these power numbers are going to go up because you've got it Thomas, Chapman, Ramos, Devours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you add Eldridge into the mix, is that going to make a huge difference?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He has what one home run or does he even have a home run?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not even sure he has a home run in AAA yet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But he is mashing the ball.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, everything coming off of his bat has been very high exit velocity.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I just want to level up if they, yeah, the power.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and again, it's at all that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And a couple of season, I think next season, we might see him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Especially it depends on what a rise is going to do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Can you assign a rise after this season?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you want to resign a mattress?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't really know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I know the power numbers are going to go up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's going to make a big difference.

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[SPEAKER_01]: they need to work more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They're they're doing a good job of working counts, but the end product after the working counts is we contact for an out or a single or a double.

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[SPEAKER_01]: If you're going to work the count, I'd like to see a home run come out of it or I'd like to see a walk come out of it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So something to just kind of keep things moving because we contact out that we're seeing after like six or seven pitch at bats or a strike out after six or seven pitch at bats.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just heartening.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're working the pitcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you're getting in deeper in the counts, you're getting in as pitch count up, but you're just not getting a tremendous end result.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Even now and then you're not, you're just getting too many maybe a single, most likely a week roll over ground out to second or third.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just hard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's hard to to see the power not there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then you're coming home playing the Dodgers in Possibly rough weather.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I don't know if we're going to see any more home.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just doing this three games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it's if it's dreary and windy and maybe even a little wet, that might actually help the giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll probably stop the ball from going out of the park even more.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's what I was thinking about today too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I was thinking if it is bad weather, I was going to ask you, does that favor us in our ballpark?

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[SPEAKER_01]: The way we hit the ball, does that favor us?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it might because we have to actually hit the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If, well, I mean, if y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'all want y'

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[SPEAKER_00]: If those are the three starters, you know, good, good luck.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe, you know, a glatt glass not can be inconsistent, but he's had a really good start to his season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the one thing we're better at than the Dodgers offensively this season as we have a lower strikeout rate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But again, if you're getting weak contact and you're grounding into double plays and stuff strike you now, is that benefiting you?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know certain situations I'd rather have a strike out than a ground in a double play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, I mean, almost in every situation unless it was two outs, but Yeah, we've got to run her a third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, you know what's interesting about this is We go back to the Gabe Kapler and Farhan mentality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was

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[SPEAKER_00]: take a lot of pitches, look for walks, you know, swing for the fences, we'll take the strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Don't worry about the strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Buster Posi when he came in, he was like, no, we need to go back to making contact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to go back to putting the ball in play.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to go back to making things happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so what you see right now is like, just like what you

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[SPEAKER_00]: but they're also not creating runs with their contact because a team that we like to look at when it comes to their ability to create runs are is the Milwaukee Brewers, the Milwaukee Brewers as a team are hitting 232.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The giants are hitting 251.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yet when it comes to run scored,

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[SPEAKER_00]: The brewers of scored 106 runs than Giants of scored 75.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And a big part of that now, I haven't pieced this together exactly, but a big part of it, is that they have also walked 109 times.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the Giants have walked 43 times so far.

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[SPEAKER_00]: By far,

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[SPEAKER_00]: worse than the national league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that strike out total, like you said, is on the lower end of the national league, they're actually that they they strike out the least in the national league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And they walk so far, you know, below almost everybody else, it is incredible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you look at stolen bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the brewers have 33 stolen bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've been caught more times than the giants have stolen bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like they've been caught eight times giants have five stolen bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, this idea of Buster saying, you know, we made, you need to put the ball in play, when he makes things happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think in theory, that's great if he's thinking about himself because he was, that's who he was.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But,

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[SPEAKER_00]: maybe not the maybe not the the best usage of his roster to have that mentality maybe they do need to work the count and wait for three one fast balls instead of swinging at the first pitch because they don't want to get behind in the count or would you know whatever the mentality is like I know you know it's hard to know exactly when you're not there but

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the giants are barely higher than them and overall on base percentage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's just like, wow, like, you know, what is going to change?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, I'm like, you, I hope that some of these warning track fly balls turn into home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the summer, we know the giant's ballpark will probably play a little bit or for that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They are also so streaky that it happens in bunches and then the next day doesn't happen at all.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's kind of been the recipe for the last couple of years is they swing big and it looks like we're coming out of this and then the next game they get shot out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is something to look at now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mentioned the delta between the giants and the Dodgers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, we'll just look at this quickly because this is really bad stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 119 RBI to 91.

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[SPEAKER_00]: 80 walks to the Giants 43.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Dodgers themselves don't really steal bases, but it's because they hit so many home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They only have 11 sole bases.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Battered.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they don't need it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Battered average.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're hitting 288, Giants hitting 251.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, the Giants are not hitting

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[SPEAKER_00]: poorly from a batting average perspective, but it's just when you get to the OPS, the Dodgers are 853, 857 OPS, and the giants are 658, a third from the worst in the national league.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So from an offensive standpoint, there's just two completely different teams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's almost like going back to your soccer theory,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It almost is like, you know, the really, really good team and against the bad, you know, or the lesser team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then how do you play that game?

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[SPEAKER_00]: How do you keep them out of the park?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, what are some ways that you can try and, you know, do we have to, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know put some spit on the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know what the look, but you're just gonna do to to stop them from bringing the chances just for this series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, like you like you just have a button and a thing goes up when the Dodgers are hitting and it comes down when the Giants are hitting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like what was the old metronome theory when the

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[SPEAKER_01]: When the twins were up to bat, the theory was that they somebody had turned the fans on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember they had those gigantic fans?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then they blew out towards the outfield.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when the other team was hitting, they turned the fans off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I love that theory.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it wasn't true, obviously.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But it was so fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Fun baseball lore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So my hope is that the giants compete.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I mean, you would want them to win two out of three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if they win one game by the skin of their teeth and they get smoked in two games, like I'm not going to be happy about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If they they went to and they lose one no matter how that happens, I'll be happy about that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But what I want to see is I want to see if they can play with these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm I'm

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[SPEAKER_00]: the way that they're playing right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not sure that they can, though, again, Diaz's hurt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's that they're going to have to deal with that from a bullpen perspective.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you have three right handers who just strike guys out, that's that's a good recipe for them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And our guys are more along the lines, you know, Logan Web's ticker baller.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So they're going to make some contact.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Giant's defense is going to have to be solid.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to have to play a

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[SPEAKER_00]: Devers is going to have to stop dropping balls, you know, trying to stretch out and it's just those small things, right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those are the things that they just kind of have to play clean baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, what do you want to see happen with you expect to see happen this week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, and again, I'd love to see two out of three baseballs so weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got 162 games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: This is probably going to be one of those series where the giants take two out of three or sweep them because it's just weird.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's just kind of the way baseball goes sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I would be happy to get the the Logan win games or victory and then sneak one out with with land and roof.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on Tuesday night.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the book end, Tuesday and Thursday wins.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Wednesday, see what happens.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'd be very happy with two out of three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm expecting one out of three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I'd be very happy and ecstatic if we took two out of three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's do it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not getting greedy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not saying we need a sweet.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not, do you hear that baseball gods?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not getting greedy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just asking for two out of three.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's nothing, out of, out of, out of, out of, landish.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe, and maybe like, maybe we hit five home runs in this series.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that'd be nice, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because we went into Cincinnati, great American small park, and we hit one home run in three games series.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it was like 80 degrees to those games, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I'm going to be on the road, because I'll be in a road trip or not a road trip, a work trip, I'll be in Dallas of all places, Dallas, and so I will probably only barely have my phone on to see how the giants are doing until Friday when I'll be back home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then we have the NFL draft on Thursday, and if we do the Rams, you've been

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[SPEAKER_00]: they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We got number 13.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was from a trade, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: That was in the Falcons trade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Falcons were not a great team this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the Rams went into Atlanta and lost.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So not only did they lose to the bad Falcons team, they also hurt their draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It was a terrible game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, where, where do you think they're going to, what position do you think they're going to look at?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they're looking, everything I've seen is McCoy Lemon, the USC wide receiver.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, McVay loves his toys at wide receiver, but, uh,

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's because they made the trades, the free agency pick up for corners, both corners from the chiefs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think that that can afford them to go and look at wide receiver at number 13.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that'll be entry to whether that starts Thursday night, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't usually follow most of the draft stuff until the Rams make their picks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I go online and I really kind of delve into these guys and see what they're all about.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I did a little bit of research because Rod and I did our little draft preview last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, the Niners historically,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, they're mostly looking to add to the defensive line, our past, Russia, our wide receiver.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it will see if they kind of do the same thing or if they actually invest in their offensive line in a high pick for once, which they've only done once in the last.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, and they semi, I forget when they, whenever they drafted McLinci,

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[SPEAKER_01]: and they just sign Trent Williams, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've recign Trent Williams.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was gonna be a done deal anyways, is just that they always have to do this dance with him every seemingly every year or so.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're doing that with Stafford right now because I got the alert today that they are making progress and getting close to an extension with Stafford.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Has he threatened retirement during this time?

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, because he wanted MVP and then when he won the MVP up on stage, he basically said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I'm very excited to come back next season and battle again with the boys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So there you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not pulling a Garoppolo.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Jimmy G, Jimmy G lived the life, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think because, you know, it was always the story was that the day the season ended, Jimmy G was like peace out and kiddo was like, yeah, like that dude would not return

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[SPEAKER_00]: until the season started the following, you know, the following fall.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and so, you know, that had to be maddening for someone like Shanahan, who's like, you know, just football 24 seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, but Jimmy G was like, hey, you know, Mark or February or March through July,

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm just doing me and and that he's got enough money to where he can just do him for 12 months out of the year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't to worry about football anymore.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, then that's the thing now he's just been carrying a clipboard for staff for the last couple of season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he hasn't had to do much, but I mean, I say that, but you know, these guys are in, they're taking reps and they're still working and you've got to work out and you've got to do everything.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he's done with that life, then good for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's been what 12 seasons.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the Rams could find another backup somewhere because I don't think they're drafting a quarterback this year to eventually take over for staffer because after Mendosa isn't that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: the quarterback.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's still pretty handsome though that Jimmy G is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's an LA guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, you know, that's, it is look and his, uh, everything is got going for me.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's, he's a, looks like an LA guy through and through.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is it from here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll either be, uh,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Growing about how well the giants played or will be very sad about how well or how poorly the giants played we'll see if we can get it if we can affording too weak.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'd be very happy that would be excellent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That is it from here for Brad.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I am double GC when we see you piece out piece.