Jan. 26, 2026
SF Giants Sign Harrison Bader & Pursue CJ Abrams | Thompson 2 Clark
Brad Evans and Garrett Gonzales break down the SF Giants' signing of Harrison Bader and their aggressive pursuit of CJ Abrams. Plus, we react to the two new Hall of Famers for 2026 and Logan Webb’s honest comments on the Dodgers. Listen now for the latest Giants roster news!
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[SPEAKER_00]: with Drosion, throws to Sandberg and the pitch is crowded a second base, Thompson has it, throws the first, it's over 27 years of waiting, it built on it, then you're going to have someone to put it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Brad, we are recording today because of news that came out today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We would not have normally recorded, but we said if there is news, we will do something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is going to be a shorter episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But because we do have the opportunity to record, I wanted to open with something that I completely forgot about on our last show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which is with two new Hall of Famers and one who played half of a season with the Giants we have 44 games right in Carlos Beltron and you know what if if Beltron doesn't get hurt
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[SPEAKER_00]: The giants are kind of in that mix I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then his Hall of Fame induction means a little more for giants fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think at that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now it's just a footnote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I really think I'm going to start campaigning for him to go in with the giants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's it's either he goes in with, you know, he can go in with the
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[SPEAKER_00]: the giant jersey or maybe he goes in with the button that you can push on the underneath the jersey to there you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What they were doing in Houston did he actually say, because I don't out to Vay has actually talked about it a little bit, but has Beltran talked about what his whole
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[SPEAKER_00]: thing his whole responsibility wasn't that whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I think the whole responsibility was his.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think coming from, uh, what was it the Yankees?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was he with the Yankees?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think before he ended up back in Houston and, uh, people were pointing to the fact that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: they think he might have learned some of the trash can banging and all of that stuff from there and then he brought it over and again this is you know memory may not be serving me correctly and this was a while ago that I had read something I think when all of this was happening but uh but yeah I kind of thought
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[SPEAKER_01]: from reading that article that yeah so he was at the Yankees in 2014 and 15 and the Rangers and then 16 of the Rangers and the Yankees and then with Houston where he had a minus 0.8 war.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't working for him, whatever he was doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we know what his value was in the last few weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and again, that's what I had read a long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People were pointing the fact that his with the aches and he had learned some of these things with the aches and brought them over to the Astros.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other one was Andrew Jones and there was always a wonder if he was going to get in just because offensively maybe his numbers weren't fantastic, but, you know, defensively he was one of the best of that time and, you know, they would say like hitters would say,
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[SPEAKER_00]: it was frustrating because you would think that you would hit a blooper and that it would fall in center field, but he was playing so shallow that he would get to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you would think that all you got to do is hit it over his head, but then he could track that down too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he was covering so much ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so he was able to get in as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if you're like this, but I remember when I used to read
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[SPEAKER_00]: about the players of back in the day, the hall of, you know, look at the stats and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I look at today's players, I almost grade the guys that I watched a little bit harder than maybe the people that I didn't watch, because I'm just using other writers, uh, history of watching those guys, and I kind of trust that those people know what they're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I look at Andrew Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: then you're doing really a whole a favor does he like, but then if like you compare him to some of the guys in history, I'm sure he compares very well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just didn't see those guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going based off of legend and and other people's eyes, but I'm pretty hard on eyes that get in today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And one guy we did grow up watching and one of my favorite players of all time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Andrew Jones is basically this guy, but this guy is not in the Hall of Fame and that's twice Evans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, when you look at those numbers, that was the first thing you said when you saw Jones get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so frustrating because Dwight Evans didn't get in known for having one of the best arms and right field in the history of the game, not just his era, but in the history of the game, being one of the better defensive arms in right field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then to put up the offensive numbers that he did for years and years and years,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's just kind of frustrating to watch that a guy like Andrew Jones gets in and you know do we is left out what do you think I mean did did you like Dwight Evans just because you had the same last name was that you're listening I
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[SPEAKER_01]: at first, I was like, who is that guy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has my last name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same with Darrell Evans, Darrell, then I started looking into Dwight Evans when I was a kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was like, oh, he wears number 24 because of Willie Mays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He plays the outfield.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, the guy is a stud and I love this arm and I also played right field a little bit in high school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, okay, right field center field second base.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, okay, I really like this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wore a number 24 in high school for for Willie Mays and for Dwight Evans as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, just what what I started kind of poking into him a little bit more and figuring out who he was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then plugging him in to Earl Weaver baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And watching him go at it in Earl Weaver baseball is like, hey, man, it's guys great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another piece of news that had come out since last time we recorded, and Giants fans were having fun with this one making so many memes because the Giants aggressively pursued CJ Abrams from the nationals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are tons of deals that are not made, that nobody knows about, and that come out, you know, much later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For some reason, I don't know, I don't know if the giants themselves leaked this information, just to show fans that they are trying to do something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but this this trade opportunity with the nationals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it sounds like the nationals may have turned down like four of the giants like top six or seven prospects for CJ Abrams and uh, but yeah, that that that was just news that, you know, he they they they said no and the giants were willing to give up, um, you know, Joe Swar and maybe even Johnny level and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: was in hunt and David's in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that didn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: CJ Abrams is would be great to have, especially, you know, I think he would plug in that second base hole.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, we'll see if it's a whole casey Schmidt, you know, has a lot to prove this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what did you think of them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we hadn't heard anything about CJ Abrams all off season and all of a sudden we get the story that they were
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's an exciting young player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it looks like they're covering all bases, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're looking at Donovan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're looking at CJ Abrams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who else were there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was the other second basement now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nico Horner's the one that comes in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nico Horner knows how close that one is or how much action is on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we hear that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That one's hard to tell because we don't know if the cubs are going to move them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the cubs have a wealth of hitters right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they can kind of hang on to them and go from there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they did lose Kyle Tucker, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so hanging on a Nico Horner now at this point probably is a little bit better for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, I mean, the giants are making some sort of push, some sort of effort to upgrade second base.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know at this point now that you've gone to your third second basement that you're trying to trade for from from another club.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure how Casey Schmidt is feeling about
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[SPEAKER_01]: but you know, hey, that just lets him know, you got a nut up dude, because they're looking to upgrade that position and if you're not it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody else will be it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's just kind of a wake up call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if Tony Vitello will actually use that phrase with Casey Schmidt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You saw all of the Detroit rumors they were trying to bring a second basement in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, we know you're here, but there were some questions now it's time for you to nut up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great phrase that just kind of went by the way side, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, how many times are we here that when we're playing dude nut up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, get out there nut up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of things that we grew up with are not necessarily socially acceptable than you were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're absolutely not, but you know, that one we can still get away with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that one's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so okay, so didn't get Abrams, the giants, somebody wanted us to know desperately that the giants were trying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, and again, exciting young player would have absolutely been honest with still what loved to have the guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that would be fantastic because he was a top prospect with the with the podries and went over to the Nationals and the Juan Soto trade and
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was like an ulster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a key in that trade as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he hasn't fallen off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's really just, he's not, I don't think he's going to become like a Juan Soto or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he is an exciting young player with speed defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was the tiny bit of controversy of him going out to like night clubs when he was with the Nationals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they got a little pissed off about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they suspended him for a couple of games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems to kind of passed over at this point, but yeah, young kid enjoys night clubs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Terrible story, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Never happens anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's one other thing that I found pretty interesting that I want to share.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So somebody asked Logan Webb about, you know, what does he think about the whole thing of the
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[SPEAKER_00]: he was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this was the perfect way that he phrased it to where I think the fans feel pretty much the same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he goes, yeah, I mean, it's not fun for me to watch the team that wanted and the team that kicked our ass a lot last year, go out and get some really good players just to make it more difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the end of the day, you've got to play better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got
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[SPEAKER_00]: we feel the same way and not that it's in some in some ways that go well, they could play a plus baseball and still not be as good as the Dodgers, but yeah, if he really feels that way and if all of the Giants players really feel that way, like yeah, we can match up, who gets a crap who they bring in, we like then as a fan, you're like, let's go man, that's the kind of attitude you want, but it would be nice if the Giants added a few more people
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that leads us to the story of the day, the story of the week, which is the Giants signed Center Filter, Harrison Bader, to a two year deal, 20.25 million or whatever it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's going to be there starting every day, Center Filter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the discussion is now, what do you do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you move Jung Hu more than likely you move him to right field?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now all of a sudden,
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was a pretty lack of days of cool defensive outfield?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ali is going to have to shape up a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know he had a down year defensively, but this other side of of the outfield, there's some really exciting things to to think about there because Jung Hulie knows centerfield.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he knows half of right field because of having to cover triple's alley and now he can he can utilize his strong arm out right field and and and play there and he doesn't have to worry about so much coverage out in center field let beta take that and I think that side of the outfit is going to be pretty dynamic now I was kind of hoping that you could move junk who to left
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[SPEAKER_00]: because I think if Jung who could play left feels he could probably be, you know, close to a gold Glover, but still the way that this situation is going to be so much better than it was last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And after you're Luis Mottos, you're like, uh, all right, guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Drew Gilbert will still get some opportunity because he's, you know, he's got some speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're modest, you're like, all right, guys, what, what am I going to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's like, dude, you just got a crush left hand pitching and you'll get some babies there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what do you think about the beta deal?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's great speaking of motto, so I think that that might make him expendable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that might, you might be able to add him in a trade, sweeten the pot, you know, for CJ Abrams, if, if the nationals are interested in Luis Matos, but I think this fantastic, I mean, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody who knows me knows that this is my type of player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very excited about Harrison Bader in Centerfield for the Giants at Oracle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be really fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought and you know, all the talk was when, when, when, uh, Junkouli was signed was that he was a good defensive center fielder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that didn't quite pan out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still, I'm still going to point this out every single time, but we got a bashing review on our podcast about somebody said, you know, I wasn't joined the podcast until they mentioned that John Lee was not good in the health field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't know ball, basically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you look at it, and at the end of the season, he ended up being one of the worst centerfielders in all of baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's unfortunate because he does, he makes some great plays, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he makes some fantastic plays, but there are a lot of baseballs that he should get to that he just does not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So having him in right field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a bit of an adventure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want him to get on the phone with her or have a hundred pants coming out to come on out to the ballpark and maybe he had maybe he also had a good relationship with Baby Yaz and he can ask him for some tip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His Yaz was maybe the best guy that, you know, that we saw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, the key to the right field of Oracle is you need to know how to play the wall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the biggest thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You do have a lot of room to cover, but if you're positioned correctly by the coaches, I think that's gonna help out a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's gonna be a key this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was reading some stuff that, you know, they were talking about this coaching staff, really could squeeze out some more outs with better positioning and apparently we were not very good with positioning our outfielders the last couple of seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,
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[SPEAKER_01]: With a difference maker in that and the coaching staff and having that be a factor going forward if you've got Bator and you've got Jung Hulie and then if I mean another one who was really rough was Elliot Ramos and I've got his, I've got their numbers here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're fielding run value on baseball, so on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we're not going to look at catchers because they're kind of a whole different category patching Bailey led the world in fielding run value this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But William Domus and Matt Chapman had a four plus four, which is good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not fantastic, but it's very good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as was at a zero, Fitzgerald was at a zero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you go all the way down, John Cooley was minus two, you go all the way down to the bottom of the list,
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[SPEAKER_01]: field and run value.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you get Harrison Bader and he's a plus five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now all of us hadn't
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[SPEAKER_01]: just by signing him today, he is now your best FRV guy on the team, on the entire team, better than anybody that they had last year in the lineup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, pitching in defense is something that just preached by this team in and out every single year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And especially in that ballpark, I don't have a problem with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you got to make sure it plays in other ball parks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have a got like Bader Bader, he can play in any ballpark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to worry about, well, you know, he's gotten used to Oracle and he plays really well in Oracle, but as soon as you go to Dodger Stadium or as soon as you go to, you know, Houston or San Diego with their bigger yards, you know, he has a tougher time, but that's not Bader.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bader plays well in every ballpark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's a huge move and 10 million a year is nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, you know, he was predicted to get 16 million a year when when the offseason started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to get him at 10 a year, 10.25 a year, I think that's fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Giants Patience pays off once again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it make them,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make them a wild card team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's the biggest question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say at this point, no, I still would love to see one more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One more arm in the rotation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see one more arm in the back end of the bullpen and I would feel better about that, but but having beta in the lineup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You think a guy like that to who's scrappy plays great defense, puts the ball on play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You think he's still more basis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was 11 for 18 last season and stolen base at times, which is really, really bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they can get him to steal more in key situations and get and get maybe 25 bags,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His stealing numbers were a lot better when he was younger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of this, I wonder, I don't know the really the trajectory of his career, but it seems like he's gotten a little bigger and stronger as he's got gotten a little older because he had a career high in home runs
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[SPEAKER_00]: that that means he is kind of figuring things out as he becomes an everyday player because previously, you know, he was a guy who would play a hundred games, 120 games and get 350 at bats max, but he played the most he's ever played last year split between, I think it was Minnesota and Philly, and
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I wonder is if he can continue that level of what he did last year, because if he goes backwards a little bit to, you know, just a couple two or three years ago, his, you know, those years offensively were not great, so you would you just hope that what he showed last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is what is still to come in his career and you know he made his major league debut like I don't know it's like eight or nine years ago so it's not like he's you know an old guy but he's also not a young guy either so he's kind of right in this prime of his career maybe a little bit after his prime and you hope that he has sort of figured some things out
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[SPEAKER_00]: because of last year was his best year overall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had one year that was pretty darn good earlier in his career, but it wasn't he didn't have as many games played defensively, though, is hopefully where it he just shows out because, you know, you look at these pictures and they're just like
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[SPEAKER_00]: at Oracle, you know, I've no idea what's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, you want them to have confidence in the in the team's ability because we know you got goal-glover at third base, Willie Domis is kind, I would probably say he's average.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have Schmidt at second,
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[SPEAKER_00]: he's probably a little bit of, you know, he's probably around above average though he's a third baseman who's got to play second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see about Rafi Devers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think Rafi Devers is going to be pretty darn good at first, but he's never been in every day, every day, first baseman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's also something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, defensively the infield is pretty solid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you want the outfield to be pretty solid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have the best catcher defensively in the league as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that should shape things out defensively and hopefully they can get so much better than they were last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the other thing you mentioned in arm started to see some Hayden bird song reports.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was talking about why his control just left him
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's funny because when pictures talk about kind of the things that were wrong with their delivery, you kind of think like could you have not corrected that in like what like don't we have cameras all over watching you every he said he was over bending.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in his delivery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the problem for interesting control.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever that means hopefully he's fixed it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at least.
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[SPEAKER_00]: if there are still problems that can go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, man, you're overbending again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's overbending.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was 2025.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they they record every single pitch, every ounce of every motion from every pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm shocked that they didn't catch this and say, you know, you're bend at the beginning of the season was this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless it was so subtle that that it just nobody can catch it and it finally felt internally like, hey, this is what I think I'm doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but wow, that's kind of shocking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a little bit of an alarm bell and we'll leave with this, which is, the giant's in the Yankees opening night on Netflix less than two months away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be, I'll be in Disney land that night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when we're waiting in long lines, you better leave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be a Netflix because I'll be there with my brother and law.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a big giants fan too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, well, we'll be wearing our giant skier that day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So and this is what makes this season, at least the spring training and preseason a little bit more exciting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We get the WBC, like I'm so I'm super fired up for that, but you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw Japan's roster, yeah, oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, our roster is pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our roster is pretty good too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our roster is really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just gonna be a matter of, are we gonna be pushing too hard?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's, I think, the key, because again, you don't wanna see anybody push too hard, especially in March in the WBC, you know, early March, or late February, even as when it is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're not going to see your ins players in the WBC logo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Logan Webb, John Hoolie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Elio is playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen a comprehensive list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what we got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... kind of yet to elio four of the reco kyway tang for chinese type a and tristan back for great britain there you go tristan back those are the confirmed so far that's crazy tristan back i don't i've i've never heard his english accent before and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is Matt Chapman playing on TMO say this here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what there was word of that, but I don't think he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that had had come up at some point, but I can imagine they have, you know, some younger dudes who are going to be playing in his place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't I don't know how far that God because I don't know how that works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think sometimes you reach out like Logan Web will reach out to TMUS a Talk to derosa and say like this is what I want to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't I think I think you ran into derosa and What's that guy and ESPN the punter who has a show Pat McAfee
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[SPEAKER_01]: him and Pat McAfee had some clover bar or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they ran into them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And McAfee was trying to talk web and to do it and to roast it was there and I think it worked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's been wanting to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think last time around he wanted to do it, but they said something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said some things came up with the giants ownership and brass at the time where they decided against it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this time I think he's like getting a shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if there's anybody you can trust, it is Logan Webb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't get hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he does get hurt this year, then, you know, that's something that he's going to have to answer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the guy goes out there and takes the ball and every year adds something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you want to reward a guy like that, and hopefully this is just something he wants to check off of his list of things he wants to do in baseball, and you let him do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe this year he helps Team USA and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, next time next go around will probably be, you know, he's just like, yeah, I don't want to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm no guy now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, you know, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the time for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, the thing I was watching, it was a really good documentary called the Court of Gold, which was the team USA, the last Olympics, 2024.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with LeBron, Steph Curry, and Kevin Durant, beating France for the gold medal game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Steph Curry, because of injuries, he had missed every opportunity to play for the Olympics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So as like a 35-year-old dude, he was like, this is kind of my only chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to go at it and he kind of won a couple of games for them and had that signature shot and did the...
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[SPEAKER_00]: night night thing like that that documentary was amazing by the way, just the footage that they got everything, but like that's kind of the same thing is not saying that Logan Webb is comparable to Steph Curry, but you you want
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[SPEAKER_00]: your guys to be able to do things in their careers that, you know, they've always dreamed of doing and you want to reward somebody like him because he has been, he's been the one constant on your team in sense the last world series, you know, that we're talking about 12 years now since the last world series and you've had so much inconsistency since then except for Logan
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you got the two sides of the coin there, don't, you know, the area of the giant's brass and you don't let them go and you say, no, you can't go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is something that really wants to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You say, no, you can't go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now he's bitter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's a little bit frustrated with situation, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Still going to pitch for the giants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Still going to be a giant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to ask to get out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, he'll have a whole little bit of resentment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you let him go and you let him pitch and he's around all of these winners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's another all-star traveling team competing at a very high level to beat the other best players in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a comment to Dave Kershaw who gives up a three-run dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he brings that experience back to the Giants and to the Giants pitching staffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What it was like to pitch with these other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what it was like to pitch with Paul schemes on the same pitching staff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just a little bit of talking Paul schemes and the, hey, yeah, think about San Francisco, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there's some underground tampering happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, what if what if the judge are like, okay,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you got to be a secret spy for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to let us know, like who can we target, you know, who can we go and trade for?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's willing to come up like that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's part of the deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Edna, to get to, I mean, he is representing the giant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he can go and talk about, you know, Tony Vitello, the little bit he's met him, but he can talk about Buster Posey and what it's like to pitch in that ballpark day in and day out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it's kind of an advertisement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like so long let him get you know you you you you you you do the survey with the team do you guys like to be told to not up
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it's no, then he sends Tony a text, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right 30 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got it done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We we got a short show in but it was we just had to talk about the Harrison beta thing and it gave us a chance to talk about some other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Appreciate you Brad for being available today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, a little bit of a last minute, but hey, the giant said something we got to celebrate that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Any time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, if they continue to do big stuff now, we're back
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll come in and then once spring training starts we'll be here a lot more it's coming up soon WBC spring training here we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited because we're at the end of the NFL season super bulls in two weeks Unfortunately the Rams fell short.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I was more upset at the Rams losing that game than you were.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like what's that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you were like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, I felt pretty good about going into the game, but I also knew that like, you know, if the Rams don't play a clean game, it doesn't end well for this team and Seattle gives you out of credit, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did everything right last night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they played really well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Rams could not force Donald into a turnover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys only made one real mistake though, I thought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know what, honestly, that's the punt is the glaring one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest mistake was being up 13 10 with a minute 33 left in the first half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get the ball and you don't run any time off and then you kick it back to them and they and you let them march down and score touchdown and score 13 13 at that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the pack breaker and the punt it hurt, but but they scored right after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know that the rams did right on the like four plays and they were back in the end of the year exactly so it did that that was the backbreaker as soon as you you don't go into halftime with the lead you go down at halftime and I think that was the killer but a lot of other things happen but yeah all right that is it from here so for Brad I'm double G we will see you when we see you piece out piece
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[SPEAKER_00]: with Drosion, throws to Sandberg and the pitch is crowded a second base, Thompson has it, throws the first, it's over 27 years of waiting, it built on it, then you're going to have someone to put it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, Brad, we are recording today because of news that came out today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We would not have normally recorded, but we said if there is news, we will do something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is going to be a shorter episode.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But because we do have the opportunity to record, I wanted to open with something that I completely forgot about on our last show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: which is with two new Hall of Famers and one who played half of a season with the Giants we have 44 games right in Carlos Beltron and you know what if if Beltron doesn't get hurt
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[SPEAKER_00]: The giants are kind of in that mix I think.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then his Hall of Fame induction means a little more for giants fans.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think at that point.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now it's just a footnote.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But I really think I'm going to start campaigning for him to go in with the giants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's it's either he goes in with, you know, he can go in with the
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[SPEAKER_00]: the giant jersey or maybe he goes in with the button that you can push on the underneath the jersey to there you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What they were doing in Houston did he actually say, because I don't out to Vay has actually talked about it a little bit, but has Beltran talked about what his whole
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[SPEAKER_00]: thing his whole responsibility wasn't that whole thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, but I think the whole responsibility was his.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think coming from, uh, what was it the Yankees?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Was he with the Yankees?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think before he ended up back in Houston and, uh, people were pointing to the fact that,
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[SPEAKER_01]: they think he might have learned some of the trash can banging and all of that stuff from there and then he brought it over and again this is you know memory may not be serving me correctly and this was a while ago that I had read something I think when all of this was happening but uh but yeah I kind of thought
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[SPEAKER_01]: from reading that article that yeah so he was at the Yankees in 2014 and 15 and the Rangers and then 16 of the Rangers and the Yankees and then with Houston where he had a minus 0.8 war.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It wasn't working for him, whatever he was doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, we know what his value was in the last few weeks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, and again, that's what I had read a long time ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: People were pointing the fact that his with the aches and he had learned some of these things with the aches and brought them over to the Astros.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, who knows?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then the other one was Andrew Jones and there was always a wonder if he was going to get in just because offensively maybe his numbers weren't fantastic, but, you know, defensively he was one of the best of that time and, you know, they would say like hitters would say,
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[SPEAKER_00]: it was frustrating because you would think that you would hit a blooper and that it would fall in center field, but he was playing so shallow that he would get to it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you would think that all you got to do is hit it over his head, but then he could track that down too.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he was covering so much ground.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And yeah, so he was able to get in as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's kind of fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't know if you're like this, but I remember when I used to read
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[SPEAKER_00]: about the players of back in the day, the hall of, you know, look at the stats and everything.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then when I look at today's players, I almost grade the guys that I watched a little bit harder than maybe the people that I didn't watch, because I'm just using other writers, uh, history of watching those guys, and I kind of trust that those people know what they're talking about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then I look at Andrew Jones.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: then you're doing really a whole a favor does he like, but then if like you compare him to some of the guys in history, I'm sure he compares very well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We just didn't see those guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we're going based off of legend and and other people's eyes, but I'm pretty hard on eyes that get in today.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And one guy we did grow up watching and one of my favorite players of all time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Andrew Jones is basically this guy, but this guy is not in the Hall of Fame and that's twice Evans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, when you look at those numbers, that was the first thing you said when you saw Jones get it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so frustrating because Dwight Evans didn't get in known for having one of the best arms and right field in the history of the game, not just his era, but in the history of the game, being one of the better defensive arms in right field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then to put up the offensive numbers that he did for years and years and years,
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's just kind of frustrating to watch that a guy like Andrew Jones gets in and you know do we is left out what do you think I mean did did you like Dwight Evans just because you had the same last name was that you're listening I
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[SPEAKER_01]: at first, I was like, who is that guy?
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[SPEAKER_01]: He has my last name.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Same with Darrell Evans, Darrell, then I started looking into Dwight Evans when I was a kid.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then I was like, oh, he wears number 24 because of Willie Mays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He plays the outfield.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, the guy is a stud and I love this arm and I also played right field a little bit in high school.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I was like, okay, right field center field second base.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I was like, okay, I really like this guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I wore a number 24 in high school for for Willie Mays and for Dwight Evans as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, just what what I started kind of poking into him a little bit more and figuring out who he was.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then plugging him in to Earl Weaver baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And watching him go at it in Earl Weaver baseball is like, hey, man, it's guys great.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Another piece of news that had come out since last time we recorded, and Giants fans were having fun with this one making so many memes because the Giants aggressively pursued CJ Abrams from the nationals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm sure there are tons of deals that are not made, that nobody knows about, and that come out, you know, much later.
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[SPEAKER_00]: For some reason, I don't know, I don't know if the giants themselves leaked this information, just to show fans that they are trying to do something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: but this this trade opportunity with the nationals.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, it sounds like the nationals may have turned down like four of the giants like top six or seven prospects for CJ Abrams and uh, but yeah, that that that was just news that, you know, he they they they said no and the giants were willing to give up, um, you know, Joe Swar and maybe even Johnny level and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: was in hunt and David's in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that didn't happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: CJ Abrams is would be great to have, especially, you know, I think he would plug in that second base hole.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's, we'll see if it's a whole casey Schmidt, you know, has a lot to prove this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what did you think of them?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like we hadn't heard anything about CJ Abrams all off season and all of a sudden we get the story that they were
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's an exciting young player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it looks like they're covering all bases, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they're looking at Donovan.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're looking at CJ Abrams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Who else were there?
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[SPEAKER_01]: What was the other second basement now?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nico Horner's the one that comes in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Nico Horner knows how close that one is or how much action is on there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But we hear that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That one's hard to tell because we don't know if the cubs are going to move them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, the cubs have a wealth of hitters right now.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So they can kind of hang on to them and go from there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: they did lose Kyle Tucker, obviously.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so hanging on a Nico Horner now at this point probably is a little bit better for them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, but yeah, I mean, the giants are making some sort of push, some sort of effort to upgrade second base.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know at this point now that you've gone to your third second basement that you're trying to trade for from from another club.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm not sure how Casey Schmidt is feeling about
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[SPEAKER_01]: but you know, hey, that just lets him know, you got a nut up dude, because they're looking to upgrade that position and if you're not it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Somebody else will be it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, it's just kind of a wake up call.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I wonder if Tony Vitello will actually use that phrase with Casey Schmidt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You saw all of the Detroit rumors they were trying to bring a second basement in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, we know you're here, but there were some questions now it's time for you to nut up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a great phrase that just kind of went by the way side, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, how many times are we here that when we're playing dude nut up?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, get out there nut up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Lots of things that we grew up with are not necessarily socially acceptable than you were.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're absolutely not, but you know, that one we can still get away with.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I think that one's okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so okay, so didn't get Abrams, the giants, somebody wanted us to know desperately that the giants were trying.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, and again, exciting young player would have absolutely been honest with still what loved to have the guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, that would be fantastic because he was a top prospect with the with the podries and went over to the Nationals and the Juan Soto trade and
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he was like an ulster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was a key in that trade as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And he hasn't fallen off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's really just, he's not, I don't think he's going to become like a Juan Soto or anything like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But he is an exciting young player with speed defense.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And there was the tiny bit of controversy of him going out to like night clubs when he was with the Nationals.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they got a little pissed off about that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think they suspended him for a couple of games.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But that was a couple of years ago.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It seems to kind of passed over at this point, but yeah, young kid enjoys night clubs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Terrible story, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Never happens anywhere.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then there's one other thing that I found pretty interesting that I want to share.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So somebody asked Logan Webb about, you know, what does he think about the whole thing of the
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[SPEAKER_00]: he was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think this was the perfect way that he phrased it to where I think the fans feel pretty much the same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So he goes, yeah, I mean, it's not fun for me to watch the team that wanted and the team that kicked our ass a lot last year, go out and get some really good players just to make it more difficult.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But at the end of the day, you've got to play better.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You've got
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[SPEAKER_00]: we feel the same way and not that it's in some in some ways that go well, they could play a plus baseball and still not be as good as the Dodgers, but yeah, if he really feels that way and if all of the Giants players really feel that way, like yeah, we can match up, who gets a crap who they bring in, we like then as a fan, you're like, let's go man, that's the kind of attitude you want, but it would be nice if the Giants added a few more people
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that leads us to the story of the day, the story of the week, which is the Giants signed Center Filter, Harrison Bader, to a two year deal, 20.25 million or whatever it was.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think he's going to be there starting every day, Center Filter.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And the discussion is now, what do you do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Where do you move Jung Hu more than likely you move him to right field?
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now all of a sudden,
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[SPEAKER_00]: What was a pretty lack of days of cool defensive outfield?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Ali is going to have to shape up a little bit.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We know he had a down year defensively, but this other side of of the outfield, there's some really exciting things to to think about there because Jung Hulie knows centerfield.
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[SPEAKER_00]: he knows half of right field because of having to cover triple's alley and now he can he can utilize his strong arm out right field and and and play there and he doesn't have to worry about so much coverage out in center field let beta take that and I think that side of the outfit is going to be pretty dynamic now I was kind of hoping that you could move junk who to left
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[SPEAKER_00]: because I think if Jung who could play left feels he could probably be, you know, close to a gold Glover, but still the way that this situation is going to be so much better than it was last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And after you're Luis Mottos, you're like, uh, all right, guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Drew Gilbert will still get some opportunity because he's, you know, he's got some speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you're modest, you're like, all right, guys, what, what am I going to do?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it's like, dude, you just got a crush left hand pitching and you'll get some babies there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But what do you think about the beta deal?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's great speaking of motto, so I think that that might make him expendable.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that might, you might be able to add him in a trade, sweeten the pot, you know, for CJ Abrams, if, if the nationals are interested in Luis Matos, but I think this fantastic, I mean, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: Anybody who knows me knows that this is my type of player.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm very excited about Harrison Bader in Centerfield for the Giants at Oracle.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's going to be really fun to watch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought and you know, all the talk was when, when, when, uh, Junkouli was signed was that he was a good defensive center fielder.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, that didn't quite pan out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I still, I'm still going to point this out every single time, but we got a bashing review on our podcast about somebody said, you know, I wasn't joined the podcast until they mentioned that John Lee was not good in the health field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They don't know ball, basically.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you look at it, and at the end of the season, he ended up being one of the worst centerfielders in all of baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's unfortunate because he does, he makes some great plays, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he makes some fantastic plays, but there are a lot of baseballs that he should get to that he just does not.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So having him in right field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: a bit of an adventure.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want him to get on the phone with her or have a hundred pants coming out to come on out to the ballpark and maybe he had maybe he also had a good relationship with Baby Yaz and he can ask him for some tip.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Exactly.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His Yaz was maybe the best guy that, you know, that we saw.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was absolutely.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, the key to the right field of Oracle is you need to know how to play the wall.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's the biggest thing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You do have a lot of room to cover, but if you're positioned correctly by the coaches, I think that's gonna help out a lot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think that's gonna be a key this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I was reading some stuff that, you know, they were talking about this coaching staff, really could squeeze out some more outs with better positioning and apparently we were not very good with positioning our outfielders the last couple of seasons.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then,
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[SPEAKER_01]: With a difference maker in that and the coaching staff and having that be a factor going forward if you've got Bator and you've got Jung Hulie and then if I mean another one who was really rough was Elliot Ramos and I've got his, I've got their numbers here.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're fielding run value on baseball, so on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: we're not going to look at catchers because they're kind of a whole different category patching Bailey led the world in fielding run value this year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But William Domus and Matt Chapman had a four plus four, which is good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it's not fantastic, but it's very good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, as was at a zero, Fitzgerald was at a zero.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you go all the way down, John Cooley was minus two, you go all the way down to the bottom of the list,
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[SPEAKER_01]: field and run value.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And you get Harrison Bader and he's a plus five.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So now all of us hadn't
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[SPEAKER_01]: just by signing him today, he is now your best FRV guy on the team, on the entire team, better than anybody that they had last year in the lineup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, pitching in defense is something that just preached by this team in and out every single year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And especially in that ballpark, I don't have a problem with it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's great.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you got to make sure it plays in other ball parks.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if you have a got like Bader Bader, he can play in any ballpark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have to worry about, well, you know, he's gotten used to Oracle and he plays really well in Oracle, but as soon as you go to Dodger Stadium or as soon as you go to, you know, Houston or San Diego with their bigger yards, you know, he has a tougher time, but that's not Bader.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Bader plays well in every ballpark.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think it's a huge move and 10 million a year is nothing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's, you know, he was predicted to get 16 million a year when when the offseason started.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So to get him at 10 a year, 10.25 a year, I think that's fantastic.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, the Giants Patience pays off once again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Does it make them,
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[SPEAKER_01]: It doesn't make them a wild card team.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess that's the biggest question.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm going to say at this point, no, I still would love to see one more.
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[SPEAKER_01]: One more arm in the rotation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I want to see one more arm in the back end of the bullpen and I would feel better about that, but but having beta in the lineup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You think a guy like that to who's scrappy plays great defense, puts the ball on play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You think he's still more basis.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He was 11 for 18 last season and stolen base at times, which is really, really bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if they can get him to steal more in key situations and get and get maybe 25 bags,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: His stealing numbers were a lot better when he was younger.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of this, I wonder, I don't know the really the trajectory of his career, but it seems like he's gotten a little bigger and stronger as he's got gotten a little older because he had a career high in home runs
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[SPEAKER_00]: that that means he is kind of figuring things out as he becomes an everyday player because previously, you know, he was a guy who would play a hundred games, 120 games and get 350 at bats max, but he played the most he's ever played last year split between, I think it was Minnesota and Philly, and
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[SPEAKER_00]: What I wonder is if he can continue that level of what he did last year, because if he goes backwards a little bit to, you know, just a couple two or three years ago, his, you know, those years offensively were not great, so you would you just hope that what he showed last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: is what is still to come in his career and you know he made his major league debut like I don't know it's like eight or nine years ago so it's not like he's you know an old guy but he's also not a young guy either so he's kind of right in this prime of his career maybe a little bit after his prime and you hope that he has sort of figured some things out
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[SPEAKER_00]: because of last year was his best year overall.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had one year that was pretty darn good earlier in his career, but it wasn't he didn't have as many games played defensively, though, is hopefully where it he just shows out because, you know, you look at these pictures and they're just like
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[SPEAKER_00]: at Oracle, you know, I've no idea what's going to happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, you want them to have confidence in the in the team's ability because we know you got goal-glover at third base, Willie Domis is kind, I would probably say he's average.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If you have Schmidt at second,
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[SPEAKER_00]: he's probably a little bit of, you know, he's probably around above average though he's a third baseman who's got to play second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And we'll see about Rafi Devers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like I think Rafi Devers is going to be pretty darn good at first, but he's never been in every day, every day, first baseman.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's also something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, defensively the infield is pretty solid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And you want the outfield to be pretty solid.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You have the best catcher defensively in the league as well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that should shape things out defensively and hopefully they can get so much better than they were last year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now the other thing you mentioned in arm started to see some Hayden bird song reports.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He was talking about why his control just left him
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's funny because when pictures talk about kind of the things that were wrong with their delivery, you kind of think like could you have not corrected that in like what like don't we have cameras all over watching you every he said he was over bending.
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[SPEAKER_00]: in his delivery.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the problem for interesting control.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So whatever that means hopefully he's fixed it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And at least.
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[SPEAKER_00]: if there are still problems that can go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, man, you're overbending again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, it's overbending.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This was 2025.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, they they record every single pitch, every ounce of every motion from every pitcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm shocked that they didn't catch this and say, you know, you're bend at the beginning of the season was this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And now it's this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Unless it was so subtle that that it just nobody can catch it and it finally felt internally like, hey, this is what I think I'm doing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but wow, that's kind of shocking.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Here's a little bit of an alarm bell and we'll leave with this, which is, the giant's in the Yankees opening night on Netflix less than two months away.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be, I'll be in Disney land that night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when we're waiting in long lines, you better leave.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'll be a Netflix because I'll be there with my brother and law.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's a big giants fan too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, well, we'll be wearing our giant skier that day.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So and this is what makes this season, at least the spring training and preseason a little bit more exciting.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We get the WBC, like I'm so I'm super fired up for that, but you know what?
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[SPEAKER_00]: I saw Japan's roster, yeah, oh my gosh.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, our roster is pretty good.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Our roster is pretty good too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Our roster is really good.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just gonna be a matter of, are we gonna be pushing too hard?
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's, that's, I think, the key, because again, you don't wanna see anybody push too hard, especially in March in the WBC, you know, early March, or late February, even as when it is,
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're not going to see your ins players in the WBC logo.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, Logan Webb, John Hoolie.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think Elio is playing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's possible.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I haven't seen a comprehensive list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Let's see what we got.
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... kind of yet to elio four of the reco kyway tang for chinese type a and tristan back for great britain there you go tristan back those are the confirmed so far that's crazy tristan back i don't i've i've never heard his english accent before and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is Matt Chapman playing on TMO say this here?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know what there was word of that, but I don't think he is.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that had had come up at some point, but I can imagine they have, you know, some younger dudes who are going to be playing in his place.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I don't I don't know how far that God because I don't know how that works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think sometimes you reach out like Logan Web will reach out to TMUS a Talk to derosa and say like this is what I want to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Wasn't I think I think you ran into derosa and What's that guy and ESPN the punter who has a show Pat McAfee
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[SPEAKER_01]: him and Pat McAfee had some clover bar or something like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And they ran into them.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And McAfee was trying to talk web and to do it and to roast it was there and I think it worked.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I think he's been wanting to do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think last time around he wanted to do it, but they said something.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said some things came up with the giants ownership and brass at the time where they decided against it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this time I think he's like getting a shot.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, if there's anybody you can trust, it is Logan Webb.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He doesn't get hurt.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: If he does get hurt this year, then, you know, that's something that he's going to have to answer.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's the guy goes out there and takes the ball and every year adds something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, you want to reward a guy like that, and hopefully this is just something he wants to check off of his list of things he wants to do in baseball, and you let him do it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe this year he helps Team USA and then
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, next time next go around will probably be, you know, he's just like, yeah, I don't want to do that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm no guy now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't, you know, right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So this is the time for him.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's like, you know, the thing I was watching, it was a really good documentary called the Court of Gold, which was the team USA, the last Olympics, 2024.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with LeBron, Steph Curry, and Kevin Durant, beating France for the gold medal game.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And Steph Curry, because of injuries, he had missed every opportunity to play for the Olympics.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So as like a 35-year-old dude, he was like, this is kind of my only chance.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to go at it and he kind of won a couple of games for them and had that signature shot and did the...
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[SPEAKER_00]: night night thing like that that documentary was amazing by the way, just the footage that they got everything, but like that's kind of the same thing is not saying that Logan Webb is comparable to Steph Curry, but you you want
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[SPEAKER_00]: your guys to be able to do things in their careers that, you know, they've always dreamed of doing and you want to reward somebody like him because he has been, he's been the one constant on your team in sense the last world series, you know, that we're talking about 12 years now since the last world series and you've had so much inconsistency since then except for Logan
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think you got the two sides of the coin there, don't, you know, the area of the giant's brass and you don't let them go and you say, no, you can't go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is something that really wants to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You say, no, you can't go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, now he's bitter.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now he's a little bit frustrated with situation, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Still going to pitch for the giants.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Still going to be a giant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's not going to ask to get out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But, you know, he'll have a whole little bit of resentment.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you let him go and you let him pitch and he's around all of these winners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's another all-star traveling team competing at a very high level to beat the other best players in the world.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's got a comment to Dave Kershaw who gives up a three-run dog.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's true.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then he brings that experience back to the Giants and to the Giants pitching staffs.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I love it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: What it was like to pitch with these other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: This is what it was like to pitch with Paul schemes on the same pitching staff.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It just a little bit of talking Paul schemes and the, hey, yeah, think about San Francisco, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe there's some underground tampering happening.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I love it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, I'm in.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, what if what if the judge are like, okay,
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[SPEAKER_00]: you got to be a secret spy for us.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You got to let us know, like who can we target, you know, who can we go and trade for?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's willing to come up like that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe that's part of the deal.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, Edna, to get to, I mean, he is representing the giant.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So he can go and talk about, you know, Tony Vitello, the little bit he's met him, but he can talk about Buster Posey and what it's like to pitch in that ballpark day in and day out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it's kind of an advertisement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like so long let him get you know you you you you you you do the survey with the team do you guys like to be told to not up
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[SPEAKER_01]: And if it's no, then he sends Tony a text, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right 30 minutes.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got it done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We we got a short show in but it was we just had to talk about the Harrison beta thing and it gave us a chance to talk about some other stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So Appreciate you Brad for being available today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, a little bit of a last minute, but hey, the giant said something we got to celebrate that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Any time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Hey, if they continue to do big stuff now, we're back
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we'll come in and then once spring training starts we'll be here a lot more it's coming up soon WBC spring training here we go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm so excited because we're at the end of the NFL season super bulls in two weeks Unfortunately the Rams fell short.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I was more upset at the Rams losing that game than you were.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like what's that?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you were like
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't, I felt pretty good about going into the game, but I also knew that like, you know, if the Rams don't play a clean game, it doesn't end well for this team and Seattle gives you out of credit, man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They did everything right last night.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they played really well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The Rams could not force Donald into a turnover.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You guys only made one real mistake though, I thought.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you know what, honestly, that's the punt is the glaring one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: The biggest mistake was being up 13 10 with a minute 33 left in the first half.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get the ball and you don't run any time off and then you kick it back to them and they and you let them march down and score touchdown and score 13 13 at that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was the pack breaker and the punt it hurt, but but they scored right after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: you know that the rams did right on the like four plays and they were back in the end of the year exactly so it did that that was the backbreaker as soon as you you don't go into halftime with the lead you go down at halftime and I think that was the killer but a lot of other things happen but yeah all right that is it from here so for Brad I'm double G we will see you when we see you piece out piece
