Giants on Fire! Devers & Adames Fueling Historic Home Run Streak | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_01]: with Drosion, throws to Sandberg and the pitches proud of the second base.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thompson has it, throws the first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Twenty seven years of waiting.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's up on the pen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: back to Thompson the Clark and we actually have a fun show in a positive show and not a negative show.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's snuck back to five hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's nice to do these shows when we're not tail spinning and, you know, heading for the water.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, it was a good couple of weeks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Giant's offense has been really good last couple of weeks too, which is home runs and five and fifteen games in a row.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's nice to see wins that aren't, you know, just plastered on the

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[SPEAKER_00]: the starting pitching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the starting pitching falters were screwed, if they if they pitch well, we may win if we can score two or more runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's nice to finally have these games were rolling out fifteen runs and eight runs and seven runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's it's very refreshing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Little late, but very refreshing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I saw a movie the other day called caught stealing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, with Austin Butler.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is set in nineteen ninety eight and there is a giant theme in this movie and Austin Butler's character and his mom who is played by Laura Dern but it's very late in the film you see her

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[SPEAKER_01]: they are hardcore giants fans and so this is their relationship and they're having a conversation about how the giants can score eighteen runs one day and can't score one the next day and I was like oh my gosh here we are twenty seven years later having the same conversation and then these last two weeks

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[SPEAKER_01]: they're actually able to score multiple runs in several games and rather bats don't go hot and then the next game go completely cold they're actually hitting consistently which is really really fun to see yeah and you know the other thing about it is now let me I'll play cynic for ten seconds here and then we'll move on from cynicism is what happens and this happens a lot is

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[SPEAKER_01]: they will play pretty well late in the season and still not make the playoffs and then ruin their draft pick for the next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And that very well may happen right now this year, but what you and I have said in the past when it when it happens this way.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We don't like losing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would, you know, if you want to be the Astros and lose a hundred and five games, so be it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is one way to hand, you know, to kind of get back into swing at things, get some higher players in the draft.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the giants historically, they have not, they can't tank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They, they know that the kind of the recipe to fandom out here in the Bay areas to try and compete, which sometimes means you're going to be five hundred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: In doing so, and that's kind of where they are this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What do we have about thirty ish, you know, a little bit less than thirty games left.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think twenty five games are so left in the season, something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So how they fare in these next several weeks is going to be fun to watch because if they just play five hundred ball, they're going to be eighty one and eighty one, which is kind of probably what we thought very close to what we thought maybe eighty five eighty six was kind of what we thought maybe they could get to or

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can win like seventeen games in being the race, which would be fun.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It'd be fun to see them play up to what we thought they could play up to and what they showed a lot of in the first half, which is this ability to stay in games and then win games when they need to.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, you know, really what we're seeing is what the offense could be.

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[SPEAKER_01]: When when some of these guys are hot, rather than everyone cold at the same time, you're seeing devours, Adamas, Adamas did go through a cold spell before this recent hot spell.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I think, Junghu Lee's probably been slightly disappointing all your long as far as his consistency is concerned, same with, uh, Elliott Ramos.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But to get some production out of Casey Schmidt and Luis Monto.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And guys like that, who we thought would be able to help the team at some point this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And finally, they are showing that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, I mean, it's, you know, in some instances, if you're watching and you go, oh, we're doing this again.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And they're not bad enough to get a great pick and they're not good enough to make the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_01]: that is kind of what we're dealing with, and it is really the, you know, it's just the reality of the situation, but I would rather see them play a good baseball than not play a good baseball, because yeah, at baseball is not fun to watch and right now the giants are fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I mean, they had a stinker the other day, trying to remember the scores a little bit of a blowout against

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Orioles on Saturday when they lost eleven to one, but that was really kind of their only dark spot for the last couple of weeks, which is, you know, which is fun because again, when you're a giant fan of your baseball fan, like you said, you just want to watch good baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't want to tune in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I love these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love these players.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, you know, watching Drew Gilbert right now is kind of a joy for everybody.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's articles being written about them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If you're kind of player too, absolutely, I'll take nine of those guys any day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you know, just tune in and watch a guy like that, hit a home run and just go nuts and watch him go nuts when other guys hit home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It just gets to be, you know, infectious and the dugout and the clubhouse and everything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really awesome and fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm all on board with winning baseball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't care if it's too little too late.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, if the giants

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[SPEAKER_00]: You missed the playoffs by one game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you can look at stretches earlier in the season as to, you know, why it dumped them out of a playoff spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's fine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You could do that with any season almost.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you learn from it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's the key.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think Bustroposi is building a team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Again, pointing to Drew Gilbert pointing to Rafi Devers who's absolutely have fire right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm going to say is becoming the guy we thought he was going to become, you know, an actually playing good defense too.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that that's that was nice to see because that was kind of

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[SPEAKER_00]: calling him out of the position by next year already going oh man we got a bird baseman and he we already have a third baseman but he's picked it up he absolutely has yeah just so almost like done watching him at short stop but then he puts together this month of uh you know defensive baseball at short we're like oh okay uh let's let's get a full season of this guy

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, exactly.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so Rob has a really good question.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I actually have an answer because I've just finished reading Alex Pavlovitch's book on the giant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And this was really good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was so fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I fell off because vacation ended and I got back to the real world.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I picked it up again last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I'm at like fifty five percent or so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's a

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[SPEAKER_01]: quick and easy read to but yeah it just brings back good memories okay so Rob shout out to Rob who is in the the chat on the yahu uh the youtube livestream so Rob says the warriors tanked in twenty twenty the sharks have tanked in the nineties of tanked why are the giants obsessed with five hundred ball

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's a relevant question is what we open the show with and the reason as far as I can tell, the reason has to do with the live crowd.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The filling up that stadium is necessary for the operations of baseball in San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And like I don't know what would happen if they just decided to take the the air out of the balloon and they went like sixty one and a hundred and one would that mean that they did less than two million fans or something like that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I've just heard that they need that place at maximum capacity as much as possible for them to run the business.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they don't have the purse strings of the Dodgers, of course, and this is also a, you know, it is a big market, but to not have like the

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[SPEAKER_01]: crazy Dodgers and Yankees and Red Sox cable deals behind you though.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would imagine the Bay Area Sports Network is a good one to have for them, but it's just when, you know, when you're maybe not the, not the top level ownership and market, and you're kind of maybe in that next year down, live crowd seems to mean a lot to them as far as how they run their overall day to day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so if you do,

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[SPEAKER_01]: pull the team off the field and go, okay, we're gonna tank.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What does that mean to your live audience?

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[SPEAKER_01]: What does that mean to the people watching your station on NBC Sports Bay Area?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because that's a whole different thing that's gonna, we're gonna start seeing happen in the next couple of years is, you know, Major League Base, like ESPN already, they have, I think they have five teams as part of this new relationship with the MLB, and they're going to sell the local rights,

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[SPEAKER_01]: to those fans in those markets.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, the giants I think are good within BC Sports Bay area, but if the bottom falls out of that, then you're looking at making less money on your local deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think it's all tied into that Rob.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it is, you know, I think it's just part of being in San Francisco and putting a team right downtown in San Francisco.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that for their operation to run, they just have to draw fans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and I think a part of it, too, again, baseball and, you know, it's just kind of how it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's different to tank in baseball than it is in basketball and football.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, in other sports because if you tank, you know, before the lottery came to baseball and you got the number one pick, that's great.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The number one pick doesn't always pan out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: As we see in other sports, but you're also not going to see that guy for four years, maybe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So keeping, you know, butts in the seats and keep in the lights on and keeping bills paid in that ballpark.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And the giants are trying to go for it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, that's the other thing too, the giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They really are trying to go for it and you feel that and you see that, especially with Buster Posey there now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think he's trying to remake the team into his vision and it started with William Domus and it just kind of goes from there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, I don't want to see a tanking baseball team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, you know, hopefully for the rest of my life.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you know, you're going to at some point, but we have seen some bad giant seams that weren't taken on purpose, but they lost ninety games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, but they also had linsicum bum garnering cane waiting in the wings to come up and kind of, you know, resurrect things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there's always a lot of turnover and baseball and and you always hope for that crop of minor leaders to come up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the giants are building that right now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, look at single A giants have a lot of players there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if they can keep building and keep pushing, there's no reason to go to become a nine need a ninety five lost team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can keep fighting and stay right around your salary and still make money because you're getting people into buy concessions and merchandise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think what we are seeing as far as roster construction is the idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And Jared and I talked about this last week when Brad was on vacation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, actually, not technically vacation, but he was out of town.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what we, you know, the idea that when you were run

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[SPEAKER_01]: by someone like Farhan who a lot of his decisions were sort of risk averse like the idea of winning by on the margins and not making mistakes, not making the big mistake to set you back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, you're gonna, you know, you're gonna, if you do not put that roster together like they did in twenty twenty one,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then there's going to be some averageness in, and that's what we saw at post, twenty twenty one.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right now we saw Buster go for it.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We saw him go for it with Devours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Whether that was the right guy to go after or not, he showed a willingness to pull the trigger on that deal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what that sets them up for in the future.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know if that means he's going to be

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[SPEAKER_01]: more risky when it comes to trades and we'll have to sort of let that play out, but I think that Denver's deal suggests that he didn't like coming a coming in second on a lot of these guys.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So instead, if I'm going to come in second on on these guys,

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why don't why don't I push for the trade and see if I can get these guys who, you know, who are going to be around for a long time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it, you know, and that is also something farhone was not really able to do sands.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess, twenty twenty one when they traded for Chris Bryant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: he was able to make that deal, but it wasn't, you know, the trade deadline.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We would get so excited.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then we just get disappointed because nothing would happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He wouldn't even sell off the guys that they had.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was that risk of verse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, I mean, yes,

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[SPEAKER_00]: But remember, he did get like crazy good deals for Mark Milanson for Drew Pomerans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, so he did the little deals that brought you back some guys that did play parts for the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, they weren't splashes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it's not stuff we sit here and we talk about and go, oh, remember that Drew Pomerans deal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and who we got back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, there's really a lot that goes into it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the giants tried to go one way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They tried to go the Farhan analytics.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's get rid of the trainers' rooms and let's add more computers and servers and whatnot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And let's try to do it one way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, it didn't work.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it worked in twenty one.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, it worked because you had aging veterans who had career years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you know how many home runs they hit that area?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was reading back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they hit like over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They led the league and home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is amazing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and you're talking about guys over like, thirty, two, thirty, three years old who were leading the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that was the year belt hit twenty nine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If it doesn't break his finger, maybe he hits thirty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he breaks that streak that we're looking at a Thomas working on right now to get to thirty home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, they tried to go one way and I think ownership, you know, partly because Bustroposi was part of ownership decided look.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to push ourselves over the edge.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We got to get those rings back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what brought in, not only the fandom, but that's what brought in the money and everything to the city.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, how important it is to the city and the Bay Area in general to have, you know, a championship ballclips.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We just saw it with a warrior.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, everything they went through, I'm not a basketball fan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But in Reno to that, I was watching basketball during the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was watching the Warriors because it's exciting, you know, that it's just fun to do and it got me interested.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then I, I didn't buy one, but almost bought a warrior's hat.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was like, but I didn't want people to ask me like, you know, how the game go last night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't look like a coherently talk about it, so I didn't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, sorry, yeah, you know, and that's what the giants were doing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to get out of that five hundred funk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And after the first two months of this season, we thought, this is the year we get out of that five hundred funk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe we do this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they're still like you said, there's twenty plus games left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And if the giants could finish, you know, well above five hundred, then all of a sudden you go, okay, we're building and next year's going to be a little bit different.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, so as of right now now, the giants are about to play if they haven't already started.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We're not going to talk about that game because this audio, the audio won't be posted until after the game is over.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But as of right now, as we are having this conversation, they are at five hundred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They are sixty nine and sixty nine within five games of the wild card spot in which the met's are the last wild card right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think they have a chance and we'll pull up the schedule here in a second?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think they have a chance to get this within two or three games where the fans can really get excited?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, you know, I think they do their plans.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he said we're going to pull up the schedule.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I already have it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, they've got, you know, seven games against the Dodgers, other than that, you got Cardinals, Diamondbacks, Diamondbacks, Cardinals, Rockies, and they've got a couple more games against the Rockies before they play the Rockies at the end of the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, I mean, there's a real chance that Giants can make an interesting, but again, you're in the

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[SPEAKER_00]: the time right now where you got to rely on everybody else and you're sitting what five games back five and a half games back whatever it is.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And and the mats are winning tonight so so you look at that and you go well no matter what we do tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know well now not no matter what we do tonight but if we lose tonight now you've widened that gap and things are you know little more discouraging so.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They've they've got a win.

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[SPEAKER_00]: a lot of all games between now and the end of the season to get there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have a chance to it's a slim chance, but crazy stuff happens in baseball all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The Met's collapsed earlier this season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They could absolutely collapse again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: anytime soon.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The podries are only two games ahead of them at which puts us seven games behind them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We had our opportunity against them to do some damage.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We didn't do that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, that that's kind of a lot of opportunities wasted just a couple of weeks ago and now we're in the situation we're in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, you know, we talked about it and we weren't really expecting to be fighting for a playoff spot once the collapse happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But but seeing guys really start to come around like a Domus endeavors and and Gilbert and

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[SPEAKER_00]: Ryan Walker getting his feedback under him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, that's good for next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I see a lot on social media that Bob Melvin can coach in games that don't matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can also coach in games that matter.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's just a matter of the response.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, you know, it's up to the hitters to go out there and do their job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's up to the pitchers to go out there and do their job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're probably will be

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[SPEAKER_00]: a shake up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would imagine on the coaching staff somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't think it's going to be Bob Melvin, but it's probably going to be somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: See a lot of talk and I know you brought this up and we talked about it, but Bruce Bochi is out of contract after the Texas Rangers are possibly out of the playoffs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And at the end of the season, he's out of contract.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does he come back to the giant?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I mean, yeah, the giant's reopt Melvin, but they can easily just say, well, we reopt you, but we're going to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I thought I did it to far on.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, and I talked to Jared about this last week and his prediction was that both coaches just stay where they are, but it is a fun idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It is a really fun idea.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And again, going back to the Pavlovitch book.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Bruce Hook dude was just so masterful in those years, but he also had years in which they did not play well as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So let's kind of take a look at some of the other things that are going on with the team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the reason why Ryan Walker is back in the closing spot is because

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[SPEAKER_01]: Randy Rodriguez, the youngster, had to go on the sixty day and it looks like he's going to undergo Tommy John surgery.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now Rodriguez said his elbow was hurting last year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, we pitched through the pain, which is kind of ridiculous and kind of crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I liked to jokingly call him eighth inning Randy because I thought he was so masterful in the seventh and eighth inning and not as great in the ninth inning, but it could be that the elbows just barking a little bit harder near the end of this season when he got put into that role stress obviously as much bigger in the ninth inning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But I mean, he's going to be gone for a full year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So they're more than likely going to be closer shop in next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe for a long term not not a long term guy, but maybe a vet who could come in for a year before Rodriguez gets back and then you have Walker there as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Maybe you even get Tyler Rogers back because I know he really liked it here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's a bummer and, you know, young pitcher made the all-star team was lights out really.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's really unfortunate for him and kind of filled really bad that he's, you know, at this point, but this is kind of baseball in today's day and age.

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know JJ and I are playing a lot of the show in the ranked games and the announcer every like every third game the announcer goes to the whole thing about yeah you know this is just how baseball is everyone's throwing harder than ever and this is what it is right and we see this with with the Dodgers we see this that

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[SPEAKER_01]: they have constant players who deal with this every single year and it's because of the way that they train their pitchers and you know bring it up Jared again last year had this conversation with him and he said he talked to a big leaguer who said that if he had protected his arm

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[SPEAKER_01]: he would have probably been in the ninety two ninety three range never would have made the big leagues.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when he decided that he was going to go for it and throw as hard as humanly possible.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He lasted like three or four years in the big leagues and made a roster and then he blew it as elbow and that's really what the decision that these guys have to make is is you know do I come in and throw ninety eight order by throw ninety three and I could probably throw ninety three for fifteen years but then I don't make the league.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so not to say that that's Randy, but that is just kind of baseball today is it's all about the velocity.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that is that is unfortunate, but hopefully for Randy that, you know, this is something that is fixable and then he comes back and he's better and ever maybe he may have to develop another pitch though instead of having to rely on just, you know, the the ninety seven ninety eight mile power fastball at a time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I agree.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I mean, we did hear about on the offseason, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The bus repose who was talking about stretching guys out, having them not throw as hard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe to get a little more control under them first pitch strikes, get those strikes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then you got a guy like Randy Rodriguez who's got that arm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So how do you tell a guy like that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey,

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[SPEAKER_00]: don't throw ninety eight ninety nine a hundred dial it back well that's his whole game so you get guys like that were that's their whole game

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hope he comes back still throwing hard, but a lot of times those guys come back different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So hopefully, I mean, you look, Robbie Ray came back and was the same pitcher, but he was never an overpowering pitcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was a guy who had a lot of movement on the stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So if Randy Rodriguez comes back and can still throw like in ninety five ninety six ninety seven, but has movement on his breaking pitches, he can still be a really nasty closer, you know, seven to eighth inning guy, but also a closer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: speedy recovery, we're probably not going to see him next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If we do see him next year, maybe we see him a little bit in September, but most likely we won't see him until the spring of twenty twenty seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, it's already twenty twenty six next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Good morning.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So September call ups the giants brought up a JT brew baker and grant McCray.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think as from what I've sort of figured out based off of and because a lot of people are saying, oh, why isn't Bryce up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Why isn't Bryce up?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I think it's just because.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He didn't want to bring him up in the midst of them trying to, you know, get back into the swing of things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They would probably want to bring him up when it's, you know, when these games matter less if they do.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But when I asked Jared about this, he said, if they had any plans of doing so, they would have done so a few weeks ago when that clock wouldn't have mattered if they brought him up.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he said, when they didn't do that, he figured that they were not going to do it this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So Luciano is another one who is just hitting bombs and people are wondering where he's going to, when he's going to come up and I, you know, I just keep asking the question, well, where does he play?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if you bring him up, he's either going to DH against left handed pitching.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then that moves devours.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That makes sure that devours place first or he's got to play left field and then you have Elliott, we're almost out and left field.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's an interesting one too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you burn an option when maybe you didn't need to this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, keep one of his options for next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he has a tremendous spring training and forces himself into the lineup somewhere.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, it's going to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: Chines have so many DH guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's talking about this because again, where are you going to play Luciano really?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Devours is going to be your DH, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Eldreds is probably going to make the team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you got your first basement right there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Luciano, not an infielder anymore.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Struggles in the outfield is a D eight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So do you trade him in the offices?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you let him just marinate and triple a continue to hit?

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[SPEAKER_00]: What did he hit here in Reno?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Two days ago, a five hundred and eight foot shot out to center field, which was almost, you know, I looked at the map again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I go to the ballpark all the time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's pretty close to the train tracks.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We have a train that runs right behind that blows its whistle, a couple of times a game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought, man, he almost hit the train tracks out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, yeah, what do you do with a guy like that?

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you got Montos, who's on fire, too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you got Montos on fire.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You also got Gilbert.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now you all of a sudden you've got

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[SPEAKER_00]: a wealth of outfielders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you're gonna have a log jam in the outfield.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you're not gonna, a guy who doesn't play the outfield well, but his bonds does he win a spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, there's a lot of moving parts in this offseason.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see some trades.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I could see some movement happening in this offseason before free agency really kind of kicks in, because that's when you can kind of get some of the better

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[SPEAKER_00]: value for these guys, although you can also argue you can get better value for these guys after free agencies.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for in spring training and they go into spring training and hit like, you know, three, fifty with six home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now all of a sudden you've got to got, you can't use them because you have too many outfielders.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you move them then.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's going to be interesting to see what, you know, and again, I always forget that

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[SPEAKER_00]: They changed the rules every couple of years for September call ups.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like what is the roster expanded?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I got to look that up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So you can only add two more players and you already add.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what what I'm interested in is

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm really interested to see what this Buster regime thinks about Luciano.

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[SPEAKER_01]: How high do they still see him?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because if I am a team who, you know, maybe is looking to trade for some power on the cheap, I would definitely give a lower level prospect out for Luciano just because of the possible power potential.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Will he ever be able to hit big league breaking balls?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Who knows, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you feel like you have a great system for guys like him, I would, I would definitely look to trade for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And it's just really what the giants, how much the giants value him, whether they're willing to give him away or where, whether they're going to hold pat on him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because how much longer you're just going to let this guy just hit in AAA, you know, next year too, like what's, you know, at some point,

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[SPEAKER_01]: actually what what happens to him is he available for the what is the waiver draft called the

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[SPEAKER_01]: Real five, the rule five.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, I haven't even looked that up yet as far as he might be a year off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay, might be a year off.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, that as he gets a little bit older, more things like that come into play.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if they feel like, I mean, he's on the forty man, so he's protected.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He would have to be off the forty man to be eligible for the right five so you right right right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So some of the other things that have happened.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll talk a little bit more about Devers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been on a roll.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's the player the week in the national league tied with Kyle Schwabber.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kyle Schwabber's like, I'm about to hit fifty some odd home runs this year and you tie me with Rafael Devers.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I hit four home runs in a game and I'm tied for player the week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... but uh... devours and in a domicile have been hot of late we'll talk about that in a little bit uh... let's talk about your guide drew Gilbert yeah for hits and a jack yes today uh... he is you know he is the new baby as it's kind of what he reminds you of uh...

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[SPEAKER_01]: The younger version, the maybe the baby baby has the infant.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But with with just like lights out crazy personality.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the fun part.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll see if he grows a he has like mustache.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But what do you think about him so far?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know what, if he continues to hit, he's going to be more fun to watch a guy like that who goes nuts and, you know, grabs people and goes crazy when people hit home runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he continues to, you know, hit one twenty three, you know, it's, it's fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's nice to have him on the team, but you still want that production.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now that he's hitting, you know, again, one game was at home.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The next one was at Cours.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he can catch fire the rest of the season, like I said, we didn't, we're gonna have a lot of talk about who plays right field next year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, motto is to start in the catch fire and they're both good defensive players too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's, that's kind of also what Buster and Bob Melvin want.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They want good defensive players, but they also want guys who get on base, who make noise and also make noise in the dugout in the clubhouse.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's what they're looking for.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's where they got out of Gilbert.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So do you think that he is going to be a possibility for a regular spot next year or is he going to be kind of what we had hoped they were able to do with the as, which is just kind of a guy off the bench.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it's a good possibility he's a fourth outfielder, but you could have a three and a half outfielder between Montos and Gilbert.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You can also dip in a free agency and see who else is out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you've got somebody who's expendable in either Gilbert or Montos, but I don't think Buster Posey goes after Gilbert thinking that he's just gonna be here for a half a year and then they're gonna move him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's twenty-four years old, controllable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: and motto says young to and controllable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, Giants have a good problem, because again, Ramlos is also young and controllable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And, and jungoo Lee is also, you know, he's got four years left on his deal after this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So, yeah, it's going to be, like I said, going to be an outfield log jam, but it's going to be fun to watch to see what Giants do with all of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: by the way, Alex Pavlovitch on Twitter said that, if the giants are when the giants, depending on how you look at this, fall out of the wild card race that he would expect a Hesus Rodriguez to come up, which would be fun to see.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right, let's talk about our players of the month for August.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now, we've been doing that this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We were doing a player of the week

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[SPEAKER_01]: And there were moments this year where we were like, do we have to pick a player the week?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because there was none.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so I think we decided from here on out just to go players of the month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what we are choosing is one first, the player of the month for hitter and pitcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then also kind of like the under the radar kind of unsung hero of the month as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So what do we got?

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[SPEAKER_01]: You got pitchers and I got hitters this month.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Is that what it is?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so I'm going to hitters and I'm going to talk about a guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know we don't usually talk about the game when it's going on, but Raphael Divers just hit a home run and then punch the starting pitcher.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that happened.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I guess Kyle Freeland starting pitch for the rock is didn't like how slowly Devers started trotting and and watched the ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, it was a towering home run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was a question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then they're going out of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he endeavors went toe to toe.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so Devers hit a home run.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Watched it then started slowly walking freely and came after him and then Devers cracked him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh my god, and I know exactly that's so yeah, this team is catching fire and you don't need you know the rockies to to start you know

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[SPEAKER_00]: getting us kicked out, but speaking of divers, and that's why I brought it up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He is my position player MVP of the month for the month of August.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to pull up his numbers.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was some craziness.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Devers in the month of August was just absolutely on fire, nine home runs, twenty ribs that led the team hit two ninety one, sluged five ninety two, WRC plus of one seventy six.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was definitely the guy this month that we

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[SPEAKER_00]: that we knew we were going to get when we traded for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Walk percentage, fourteen percent that I is there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: K percentage down to twenty seven percent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was really high when he first came over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so he is is absolutely the offensive position MVP for the month of August.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, what about your unsung?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it goes straight to the unsung.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is guy we talked about a little bit earlier, kind of, you know, and again, unsung is forgotten about, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't think much of him, but he's a catalyst and does some fun things.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's Jung Hulie.

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[SPEAKER_00]: In the month of August, he hit three hundred

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[SPEAKER_00]: on base percentage of three-forties, slugging four-fifty.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He hit only one run, but he had a lot of doubles.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Only drove in five runs, but he did score thirteen runs, stole three bases, got back on the base stealing venture there, which is nice to see.

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[SPEAKER_00]: One, twenty-two, WRC+, offensive war of three point eight, overall war of point seven.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I could have gone Luis Montes, we talked about him earlier in August that he had.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I thought, you know, I could go Luis Montes, he had four, fifteen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, again, fun to see Montes was really become that guy again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But the difference maker for me, and this is why I say, you know, position player MVP and on song is because when you look at

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[SPEAKER_00]: I got to pull it up again, but when you look at defense and we kind of thought, you know, earlier, Jung Hulie was kind of having some problems defensively.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But when you look at it over the month of August, he was the number seven

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[SPEAKER_00]: center fielder in all of baseball and preventing runs with a two, a plus two fielding run value.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And we kind of knocked his defense earlier in the year, but not only seventh as a center fielder in all of baseball, all of baseball and outfielders, all of the outfielders combined, he was thirteen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's where I gave him the edge because we have seen him make some great plays, did some fantastic things in the outfield and got on base and score runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he's my unsung guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So for the pitching side, I think it's been pretty consistent with Logan Webb.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was back to being Logan Webb after he had some troubles there a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the unsung one is actually more interesting because it is somebody who has had a bit of a rough year in who we were talking about.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Ryan Walker has been pretty darn good in the month of August.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I would have him as my answer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You could even have him as your as your picture of the year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I just give to Logan because he's just so consistent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I just like, you know what's what's funny is is going back to that twenty twenty one year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like if he was on the mound, they just didn't lose.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like that was the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And now he's on the mound and he's pitching even better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And he's like a five hundred pitcher, which is frustrating.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm sure it's frustrating for him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So, you know, but he's just been just been consistent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like it's the one thing, the one thing about this team.

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[SPEAKER_01]: is their level of being able to put it together for the whole season, consistent wise.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Like, hey, maybe we're not going to be the biggest basher team of all time.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But how about we just play a consistent brand of baseball?

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[SPEAKER_01]: If they didn't fall off the cliff,

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[SPEAKER_01]: In in July, you know, they're, they might, they might still be right in the in the thick of things, but because they've been so inconsistent.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, now we're seeing what what we think we're like, oh, this is who they should have been all along and yet their five games out of the wild card Logan Webb is the opposite of that.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He is so consistent and predictable as far as what he's going to give you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he's going to have a couple of shaky starts here and there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Everybody does, but the guy has been just nails for the giants and hopefully.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They can put this thing together, whether it's at the, by the end of this year or next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you talk about a guy who's in, in the mix for like, sigh young kind of stuff because he may even lead the league and strikeouts this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That's how good he's bit.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and, and he's talked about, you know, he wants to hit those two hundred innings and he can, you know, he pitches tonight.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If he ever gets on the mound, there's a chance.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're trying to still start this whole thing at the top of the first.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But, but if, you know, and it's hard to do in Colorado to get your seven or eight innings, but if anybody can, webcam, you know what I mean, he can limit, he can limit the damage, he can get those crown balls and get those double plays, does what he needs to do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, that's, I mean, web is, that's three times he's won the pitcher of the month MVP for us, which is pretty awesome.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, he's,

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so great to have a picture to count on like that and it's so great to have a Robbie Ray and going to next season knowing we've got a one and two.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But now that we've got through the players of the month, I want to ask you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I was thinking about this yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What would I do now at this point that we've seen, verlander become that guy again.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we have the same question.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, what do you do next year?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Do you sign them to another one year deal?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Does he want to play for us again for another one year deal?

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[SPEAKER_00]: It seems like pitching in Oracle is kind of nice for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm not quite sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would welcome that at this point.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know we called him washed a month ago, but again, he's coming off an injury and everything else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And now we've seen what he can be and then you give him the run support and he can be that guy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he is making a fifteen million dollars this year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Do the giants bring him back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: for fifteen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, what is the average four starter with a certain level of experience?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know what that number is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But it's going to go up next year too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because I do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I wonder if I wonder if it's up to him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Really?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Great.

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[SPEAKER_01]: like if he enjoyed the experience of being on this team or not because he may just be like

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, it was fine, but I can probably do this somewhere else.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you know, not not say he could even go back to Detroit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Detroit's one of the best teams in the league right now, but, you know, he could go back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He could go somewhere where he's been in the past and he didn't go to history.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He still wanted to go.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would, I would like to know what he thought about this season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, he said all the right things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been a tremendous teammate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He really has been getting screwed left and right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: with the offense and the defense behind him.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He's been the, you know, ultimate professional.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So I, I've loved that about him, but the, yeah, and so we were very hard on him in early in the air.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Because he was getting hit.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He was he was giving up some some really loud hits and and some loudouts, but as the season has gone on, he's pitch a lot better.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, and he fatigued himself through five innings in a hundred and twenty some odd pitches to just get those ten strikeouts the other day.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he's been battling now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He will be in season twenty.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think he said,

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[SPEAKER_01]: that as far as the things that he looks like or he looks at which is like pitch shapes and velocity and all those things he's like.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's it's about the same as I was the last time I won the sai young.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Now I don't know how much of that is.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kind of talking himself into it or if that is the reality like that you know I haven't heard anybody else say it except for him so that would be interesting I am I am for bringing back a guy who is a professional and who can actually

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[SPEAKER_01]: you know, do it at a high level.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's just unfortunate that if they don't make it to the playoffs, it would be nice to see him in the the postseason, but probably not that's probably not going to happen.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I would not be against him being the fourth or the fifth guy in the rotation next year.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And plus now we got the situation with Landon Roops knee Hayden Bird song can't find the plate.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You don't have Kyle Harrison because he was in the trade.

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[SPEAKER_01]: What are you going to be keeping wind, Tristan, back or those guys?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Real, Kai, Kai Tang, I screwed up his name.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Kai, Kai Wei Tang, Kai Wei Tang, who pitched well yesterday, but as he real, he seems a little bit more like a journeyman kind of guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, we're going into free agency with the number one priority as like a three, four and five picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you have Robby Ray for one more season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so does that mean you bring back, you want to bring back Verlander as your three or four?

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what does it mean for the young guys?

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think they have some questions that they need to answer.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, as long as Rup is healthy, I think he's got to come back as a dependable arm, right?

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[SPEAKER_01]: Then maybe then they look for someone who could come from the left side.

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[SPEAKER_01]: because you only have Robbie Ray right now coming from the left side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, and you've got Wiz and Hunt who, you know, again, develop a third pitch and Wiz and Hunt could be that guy, you know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So there, yeah, there's, there's a lot of moving parts in the off season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's why I always say I

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, an offseason after you win a world series is not very exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're not going to be a whole lot that's happening, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, an offseason after you win like or lose like ninety to a hundred games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you may not be a whole lot because you can't just grab two or three guys and all of a sudden you're playoff team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But an offseason like this where you're close to five hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And you get an off season with bus proposal in the second year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's going to be some stuff happening.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, so that's what's exciting.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I look forward to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I love that stuff.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, no, I did.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Verlander conversation is a pretty good conversation.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm interested in seeing how he feels and how they feel about him as well.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I've turned the corner on him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think we all have.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But again, I think we would have turned the corner on him sooner and had our offense

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[SPEAKER_00]: been there for him because there were probably three or four games earlier in the season he could have gotten three or four more wins and he was pitching well before he had a couple of blowups but you know that happens when you're a pitcher for the shift to go giants and does that turn him off so that's going to be the big question all right let's wrap things up I just looking at the playoff picture here now the uh...

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[SPEAKER_01]: The wildcard race in the American League is the Yankees and the Red Sox head and shoulders above the Mariners for those wildcard spots.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But the Mariners are still a game in a half above the Rangers and two and a half games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: above the royal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we are about what twenty five game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's twenty fiveish games left in the regular season.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It does look like there may be a possibility of one of those spots kind of coming down to the wire.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Which would be fun to watch.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then when you look at the division.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The blue jays are still have a couple games of a lead there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The tiger's their heads and shoulders above.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Astros are a little bit of a paper tiger, I think.

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they win baseball games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Their run differential is very minimal.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They almost have the same run differentials to giants, actually.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But they're still three, three games, I think, ahead of the Mariners in the West.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then in the National League, the brewers are the cream of the crop here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They have the best record in baseball by about five games.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The fillies are heads and shoulders in the east.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the Dodgers are a couple of games ahead of the Padres.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Dodgers are

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[SPEAKER_01]: I think, you know, there were some people who thought they were going to win a hundred and ten games, and it's clearly not the case.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were people who thought they were going to win a hundred and twenty games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I don't know about a hundred.

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[SPEAKER_01]: But at the same time, even in a season where they seem to be struggling, get a given credit to still be at the top of the nationally west, and I hate giving them credit, but

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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, for a team that has seems to have more questions than answers, and then they're still, have seventy eight wins right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It's, it's easy to struggle when you have that many all stars.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, they got a good roster.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The Cubs are the nationally wild card lead right now.

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[SPEAKER_01]: They unfortunately, they play in the central, which means there's six games behind the brewers, but if they were not, if they, if the brewers were like to fillies in the Dodgers, the Cubs would be right there for the division, but they're not.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the meds we mentioned are third, the third wildcard.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the reds are four games behind the meds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The giants are five games behind the meds.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And the reds have struggled in their last ten, while the giants are eight and two in their last ten.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then the diamond backs and the cardinals are right below the giants.

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[SPEAKER_01]: That is what it looks like with what we got like three weeks.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, probably like four about a month left a little bit over a month left in the in the regular season here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So it'll be interesting race as it always is with that third wild card.

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[SPEAKER_01]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we will be back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Unfortunately, because of the holiday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: on a Tuesday.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So we'll, but then we'll, we just get to talk to each other in six days rather than said.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and it's going to be exciting stuff because again, you know, where I just counted twenty six games left.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We go to St.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Louis and before we come home, we'll be able to kind of wrap up that series and haven't been in St.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Louis, got it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel like we haven't been to St.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Louis since like two years, it feels like because it's so late in the season to actually go to St.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Louis.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and then every time I watch the Giants play in St.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Louis, it feels like it's a hundred degrees just watching.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I have been, okay, so I've been to a Giants Cardinals game, two games, Giants Cardinals, nineteen ninety seven, middle of July.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And it was like, one hundred and one game, or a hundred and one degrees a game time.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And this is a night game that started like seven o'clock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hundred and one degrees in the humidity was like eighty five, ninety percent.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It is miserable.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at least it's early September, so maybe get a little bit of a cool down.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Anytime you go to the Midwest, if you could push it till September, that's a good thing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, we'll be back.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We'll be back next week.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And I'm going to see what's going on here with the as Brad was describing.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I couldn't tell if Devers actually punched the pitcher.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He did not get kicked out of the game.

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[SPEAKER_01]: No, it was Chapman and Adamas.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And what happened is as Devers was running around first, where he was jogging around first.

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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... the picture was yelling at him freeland was yelling at him and then devours was yelling back like devours was like running backwards kind of around the past and then you see chatman come in and kind of like give him like give freeman like a uh... a freeland a forearm shiver

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[SPEAKER_01]: And so he kind of escalated things.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So he must have said something that pissed Chapman off like crazy.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And then Adam has kind of restarted things after they kind of cooled down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I guess or not cooled down, but it looks like maybe they were cooling down.

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[SPEAKER_01]: So the giants lose

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[SPEAKER_01]: two of their, uh, two of their middle hitters here.

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[SPEAKER_01]: And, uh, but they're up to zero.

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[SPEAKER_01]: It has a down is even rounded the bases yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he finally rounded the bases, but, and, and of course, this will be all kind of out, uh, by by the time this show airs, but the, uh, the lineup right now is a mess because we, we had to lose our DH.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Uh, if you go into it, we had to lose our DH.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Dom Smith, I don't know where floor.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Wilmer floor is his D. H. He's going to have to come in the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Probably play third.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Johnson is going to have to get the picture.

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[SPEAKER_01]: The the judge are going to actually have to use a picture too bad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Logan Web if he wants his two hundred.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's going to get himself probably three good at bats today.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hey, so he's going yard.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Remember at the end of the twenty twenty one season when they had to go to the last day to beat the doctors.

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[SPEAKER_01]: He hit a jack in his.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably geared up now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's probably like all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm at course.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll take three at bats.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's do this.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_01]: We will be back next week for Brad.

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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm double G shot out to Rob.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Thanks for hanging out with us in the chat there.

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[SPEAKER_01]: See you when we see you.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peace out.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Peace.