Oct. 13, 2025
Giants Manager Search: Nick Hundley Favorite? Hyde Talks & Position Fix | Thompson 2 Clark
The Giants manager search heats up as Garrett and Brad break down why Nick Hundley is the current favorite and what Brandon Hyde's candidacy means. Plus, they dive into the electric ALCS and NLCS matchups and debate the single most important position the San Francisco Giants must upgrade this offseason. Tune in for expert analysis and tell us your top position fix!
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[SPEAKER_00]: with Drosion, throws to Sandberg and the pitch is crowded a second base, Thompson has it, throws the first, it's over 27 years of waiting, it built on it, then you're going to have someone to put it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It stops into Clark Brad, this one of the first times, and I can't even remember that we actually haven't livestream our show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's historically a live stream show on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People listening on audio they don't care about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We decided you know it's probably going to have a little bit of a shorter show giants have not signed a new manager or hired a new manager yet So there's not a ton to talk about in giant space ball land and the the NLCS and the ALCS are on going and so far the Toronto BlueJays have taken a giant dump on the baseball field
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the Mariners team's just looking great that especially after the NLDS which seem to go on for about I don't know that that game felt like it was like a 10 hour game the other that was crazy because I was watching other stuff and I kept coming back and then finally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is around the 12th inning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know what, I'm just going to tell my wife I said, I like to watch the rest of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to watch the rest of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Should be over soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, what it could keep going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like five, six more Indians.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the poor blue jays, I picked them to win the world series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, you know, that there's still time we know how these series go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still the Seattle Mariners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you never know anything can happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so on the other end, the Dodgers and the brewers have kicked off their NLCS and you know, there's something in me that says, oh man, the brewers are the perfect team to beat the Dodgers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they beat them in the regular season, every single game that they played, but the Dodgers seem to have been peaking at the perfect time right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so frustrating to watch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need more of Clayton Kershaw because they don't kind of either they put them on the roster I who knows, I mean, you think they'd have to write in a seven game series, you kind of you kind of have to, but I think the giant left left lenta come off the roster on one of the 2014 series is I don't remember which one, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it could have been the three of five, 2014.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, it was our three of five and 2014 cardinals, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it could have been that series, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this hope hoping for a either a short series for the Brewers are just a long series no matter what and yeah, well, we'll have to figure out like I, you know, you had the blue jays winning it all I had the fillies winning it all and today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did Bayer, they barely got to game four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, guys, forget how many outs there are and the most important games of their life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And fumble the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, this is like the so much pressure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad for the pitcher, but at the same time, like, dude, what if you expect?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it's come down to basically it's, we're pinning our hopes on the brewers, pinning our hopes on the blue jays, we're pinning our hopes on the Mariners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because we're not there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the problem is where that by the way, the 2014
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[SPEAKER_00]: Washington.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that that's the one where Brandon belt hit the home run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he didn't number 18 or exactly we had the cards in the four out of four out of seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where you should cover, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, walked it off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was that was the big one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, we're pinned on our hopes on some of the other teams because we're giant fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, nobody wants to see this garbage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The the, um, yeah, the the
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the MLB got what they wanted last year with the Yankees and the Dodgers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got Yankees and Red Sox this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Yankees kind of disappointed a little bit there and just getting mashed by the blue jays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the other side, the Tigers who had such a fantastic like first 65-70% of the season and they just fell off so hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the other side, you know, Philly's were fantastic with like we said, when they lost wheeler that was kind of like, oh, no, you know, this may this may be a problem and then on the other side with the brewers and the cubs, you know, having a long series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been it's been an interesting, I wouldn't call this play off like super exciting or super fantastic or whatever, like it's kind of like
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little bit of stuff where I was like I didn't really expect that to happen, but then on the other end when you have the Dodgers and the Brewers in the NLCS, you're like, that's exactly what you've done, you know, some of what you saw in regular season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was definitely a formidable series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will, when we check back in, I'm sure we'll probably have a better idea, at least with what the world series is going to look like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: based on what we've seen so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So as expected, Bruce Boachy steps down and skip shoemaker is the choice in Texas, which leaves somebody like Nick Hunley for the Giants, but then just today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Padre's manager stepped down and so there's now a spot open in San Diego and you had mentioned to me offline that Nikon Lee actually lives in San Diego.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you wonder if that is a possibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I'm picking between two franchises as awesome as having Fernando Tettis for the next 10 years or whatever might look, that that place just seems messy man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I threw that out there, I completely forgot about their situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really think of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah ownership is a mess, but you do have a GM who goes for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: going for it and not knowing who your ownership is going to be and are they going to let you go for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Next year the year after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's a tough situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If, you know, honestly, if you had to choose between the giants and Buster Posey and the podraise and and Preller.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think right now you've got to lean towards the giants just because of that situation and you look at the giants roster and you have to say to and not ballpark and if they're going to go after a lot of pitching you've got to look at all those situations and I think if I'm a manager I'm probably going to lean towards the giants as well plus humly and and pose you have that relationship you know, humly was posed these back up catcher 2018-19
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[SPEAKER_01]: hungry doesn't really have any ties to the podries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to look at that as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You would think if, if Honley's going to take his first managerial job, I think he's going to want to do with his friend and co-catcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Buster Posey as his boss, because it kind of gives them, you know, they know each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so making decisions could go hand in hand with those two and be an ideal situation, I think, for only.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it with catchers and me coming managers, by the way?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just because they're field managers for the most part, when they're out there, they're kind of running the show, they're calling the game, they're deep into the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They know hitters, tendencies, pitchers, tendencies, field or position based on pitches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they have their hands and everything and they're brain and everything before the game when it comes to prep work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I think that's it, you know, they're, they call, they call catchers gear the tools of ignorance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, there are so many catchers that are managers nowadays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can't really say that, but I mean, it's the old joke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this guy's kind of a meathead, let's throw some gear on him and stick him behind the plate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, you got to be a brain, especially nowadays you've got to be a brain to be a catcher in this league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like thinking like, oh, there's not that many short stops as managers that I can remember or center fielders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then if you go back to when when we were younger, Frank Robinson, Hall of Fame outfielder, Roger Craig, sort of, you know, long time picture, but not stand out in any way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Dusty's an outfielder, a Philippe Lou is an outfielder, and then Bochi, catcher, meltdown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You did have a Aussie Guillain, who was a short stop, who was a manager for a short period of time, but obviously we found out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't that smart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if you want to know how he got fired, go ahead and look that one up, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, there seems like catchers
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, usually, I don't know, I guess we'd have to look at it historically what positions are these players, uh, give Kapler outfielder, uh, Dave Roberts outfielder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, you know, done madingly first basement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's one of the rare first basements that I can remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, let's talk about, uh, the, I guess the giants did
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Oral's managers who's a Bay Area native.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The San Francisco standard mentioned that it wasn't confirmed if it was a formal interview or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't, you know, we haven't really heard
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[SPEAKER_00]: really anybody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We only know that he talked to Bruce Boachy and basically said, you know, if you want to help out in any way, let me know, but they're not going to go back to that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not going to go back to that well and they're looking for someone younger and and someone who they can, you know, establish and have, you know, many years and I have actually heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of that made a lot of sense to me when they were talking about Bochi, the idea of Bochi and you know, we kind of said the same thing like if you, you know, if you were the team that was like at 98 wins every year and you just needed someone to get you over the hump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: then you're like, yeah, we need the hired gun to come in and help us get over the top.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But with the giants we're looking for is somebody like you don't want to have somebody who at any point could just retire on you because then you're always kind of wondering and you you're always having to prepare for that to happen and so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, trying to find somebody that you can establish a relationship with and hopefully keep around for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that did make sense beneath Bochi is like if they hired Bochi and then whoever the replacement was going to be and they're on the same staff and you're just kind of getting that person ready and being under the tutelage of Bruce Bochi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I at this point, I'm kind of hopeful for Hunley and for no other reason, then he's a former giant and seems to be highly thought of and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, the when it comes to these candidates, you don't know, we don't really know how much styles of managing influences teams, how our managers, how are they valuable in these days, because you see someone like Dave Roberts who's been Uber successful, but his reputation is more as a button pusher than anything else, and that's probably a disservice to Dave Roberts, because there is more to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, how much influence do they have?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, this whole thing, like, manager-wise, were like, oh, yay, Gabe Kapler, and then, oh, yay, Bob Melvin, like, you know, we didn't really have an opinion plus or negative, like, all that Bob Melvin, he blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just like, yeah, you just trust these guys to make the decisions and hope that it works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and a guy like Bob Melvin though, you could look at a track record, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've seen him do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know who he is and what he's about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, we've seen him with Matt Williams for years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen him with all these guys on different teams for years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With a guy like Nick Hanley, you just kind of go well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: there's no track record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't managed anywhere in professional baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a little bit of a tough one, but against even vote never did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to kind of look at those guys and say, well, Stephen vote was a catcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... he worked with us repository uh... and it only is a catcher he worked with us dream policy doesn't mean it's going to give us the same results now absolutely not but still you you that that's all you can look at it and you have to say look if buster is picking a guy like nick on leave doesn't have the experience he's got the at most uh...
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm at a loss for words.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even, they are most confident in him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's what I wanted to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the situation like that, it would be exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think from a standpoint of a fan, but also we're going to look back and say, look at the first half of the season, can Nick only do that and then push us
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[SPEAKER_01]: past that to the point where we can win three more ball games, you know, and again is the nationally going to be like that next year where you're getting in with 84 wins as the final wild card spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's an anomaly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's going to happen every year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about what 90 wins, 89, 90, 90, one somewhere in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If Nick
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[SPEAKER_01]: and lead them to that with no experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's something exciting, but also we look at the other end of the spectrum when we say it could be a disaster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's never managed before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think Buster wants to put himself in that type of situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he picks Nick Hundley, he's going to give him a few years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Buster Posey's gonna make a higher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See how it goes in a year and a half and then can somebody during the, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is going to be a pick that's going to be around for probably four or five years to see what they can do because you know they're still assuming youth in this ball club and then you've got Devers locked up for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a Domus locked up for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Chapman locked up for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Eldridge coming up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a lot of these guys you know, Elliott Romus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be there for a while and so yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of nerve-racking as a fan because we're sitting here going man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't heard anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said he was going to keep it close to his vest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's done that and it's getting a little nerve-racking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought we would wake up this morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, OK, Monday morning, we're going to wake up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to hear some news.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a higher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, we just hear about another, you know, stepped down of a manager in the National League West.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now we're like, oh, what, now what happens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's the clock is ticking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna make a move here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess one of the reasons maybe to not do anything right now is if he had ideas of a folks who are on the current coaching staff, but the team's still available, so maybe there is a waiting period for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there are people that busster wants to talk to on those staffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a possibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're just going to have to be patient on this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess the last thing I wanted to ask you and we didn't really prep this, but it was just
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Buster obviously's talked about the the type of team that he wants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, smart base running, strong defense, good pitching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he believes wins baseball games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was thinking like, if you as a fan, if you're, if you could tell Buster, hey,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need a better player at this position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What position would you actually choose?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and we are thinking, okay, we got Bryson Devers to control first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got Casey and Coss at second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got Adamus and Chapman filling out the infield.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you got Jung who in center, Elliott in left and then whomever is gonna play right field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you just said it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's where I want to upgrade and right field and I'm sure everybody does and I'm sure that's Buster's probably number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at the lineup, Kyle Tucker's going to be out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, are we going to be given away a big contracts again to non-pitcher to position players?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's going to be a Kyle
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you really want to shore up this lineup and you really want to show free agent pictures that you're serious about winning, then you get a Kyle Tucker and you stick him in right field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you've got a really nice looking outfield.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got a really nice looking three through six in the lineup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you've got starting pictures that they're going to look
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's guys are now they're going to score some runs and I get a pitch in that ballpark and I don't have to and I also get a pitch in like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dodger Stadium, and some of the other ball parks around the National League, West, and the American League West.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's something I definitely want to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would say right field, and not necessarily Kyle Tucker, but when you talk about Alfielders, stick Jung Hulian right, and then put Kyle Tucker and Senator, or whatever you want to do it,
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[SPEAKER_01]: power outfielder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll actually like the idea of something that we talked about all, you know, second half of the season, which is, could we get a dynamite center fielder and move junk who over to left?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that would create some frustration and with
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a hard time thinking that they're going to sign another long term contract on an older player, not older, like right now, but one that ages, you know, at the end, because you don't want to get stuck with, you're going to have devours at 38 years old, making, you know, 30 million or whatever, and then another guy who's can't really play the field, like you don't want to overload on that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do wonder if like I can't imagine like you know there's Peter Lanzo like I can't imagine the giant signing Peter Lanzo to like a nine year deal right because you're going to because you cannot pair all of these guys up with long contracts because they all expire and get old at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It really is going to be about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: their draft and then bringing in younger players are trading for younger players which is which is costly as we know especially if they have time left until free agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know who that player is like we thought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we thought that there were some some centerfielders on the in the farm system or like, oh, what about grandma Craig?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what about Wade Meckler?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what about, uh, was that kid's name who was like the old guy, but he kept getting hurt?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it fun?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then was it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We thought we had those guys possibly, and none of them have
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[SPEAKER_00]: Grant McCrake could hit a curve ball or, you know, could not strike out 150 times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe he becomes that guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw that throw in that Dodgers game, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: When he threw the guy out, he sent a replacement for that fielder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a lot of those guys and he's got speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there it would be nice to have somebody, you know, fill that spot in center field or
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[SPEAKER_00]: a good really good defensive left filter that makes young who leaves life a little bit easier because there's a lot of space out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I would look at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Giants fans are going to like this one, but looking at the list of preliminary how filters and the top four based on war last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one would be Kyle Tucker a 0.7 war.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is 29 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could do a seven year deal eight year deal, but like you said to the Giants want to do that long of a deal for another, you know, another hitter on number two, Cody Belinger 30 years old that could be a fit again, he I don't think he's going to want anything less than a seven year deal probably at this point, he's probably going to want to retire with whatever club he goes to number three on the list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm only doing the top four Harrison Bader 4.4.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to get Cody Bellinger has a player option, so he still has to opt out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Harrison Bader has a mutual option, but he has a 4.4 war.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Guess who number four is on the list?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Top four out of filters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Micah Stremski.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Micah Stremski.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, our old pal, 4.1 war, 35 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still blame Harrison Bader, by the way, for that Philly series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had Vesia on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just he had him and he goes three two three two three two and the pitchy swung it and that at bat and left him off and let him off the hook was not even close to strike so like what are you doing dude like again you know I understand
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are clutch moments and there's lots of, you know, a lot's of urgency and nervousness, but like you're there, you're professional baseball player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't swing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he looks like a professional baseball player, but sometimes he'll have it bats like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you look at last year, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It hits 305 with an OPS plus 124.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you think is, is a little punch in war that he got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that had a lot to do with that lineup?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ballpark?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because Minnesota's lineup is bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you look at somebody's war, you go, well,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The lineup around him helped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if the giants went and got a guy like him with a 4.4 war last year, did you even expect the same kind of production out of him?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't personally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know he, I know he hurt his hamstring or whatever and he, he was day to day in a lot of that series, but it's, it was like, you know, when you watch these moments and you're like, man, the Dodgers bullpen is suffering, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bryce might have, he probably is like, man, this, what was me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Calgon take me away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do this by myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are the who are these guys?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Could have been in San Francisco.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny too because hating the Dodgers as much as we do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we get ourselves some new villains throughout the playoffs guys who can't produce against the Dodgers when the light is shining on them like Harrison Bader.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're frustrated with that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to see him do bad next year, but you know, I don't want to see him do bad if he's a giant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's end this with a little bit of old guy, Ali.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had an MRI done on my left knee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what I think it is, and I've had this injury before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had it in college, actually, at San Jose State,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it sounds a state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I took basketball class like PE, like every semester.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just, yes, very didn't I didn't I play with you in an inner mural.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we did like in a league with a bunch of other guys from give the radio station guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so, but I would just take like, I didn't get any credit for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was essentially paying San Jose state so that I could play
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just that they're in play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so get it, get a credit for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did a, I did like a crossover and my left knee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like just gave out completely and I just went down boom hit the floor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then I had to hop my way over to the doctor or the nurse or whatever to have them just check it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, you know, go see a real doctor and have them look at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what it turned out is it was a sprained MCL in my knee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to get a brace and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I remember what that felt like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And over the last couple of weeks, I felt that little pinch in my knee again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's from basically from playing pickleball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now pickleball is lots of folks pick up injuries because
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[SPEAKER_00]: you go from, you know, I'm sure there are active people who are also playing Pickleball, but you go from like not really being that active in that same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're like hustling around the court and starting to stop and, you know, knees are doing stuff that they haven't done in a little while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I can see why the injuries happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is so weird trying to figure
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[SPEAKER_00]: make sure my knees are okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I thought I was like, okay, get some more I done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I should get the results sometime today or tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it's like, well, we have pickleball class or we have to play and I'm like, oh my gosh, like, how can I even walk let alone play?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that table mentality of like, you know, when you're playing a city league baseball and your arm hurts and you can barely raise it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, no, I got to play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I can't not play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the competition is what gets me going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: doing like all kinds of stretching and I'm putting CBD oil on my knees underneath my knee braces to keep it heated throughout the practice and it's just insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably not not best for my health, but it's just those get still get those competitive juices going so it's so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm with you and I've got speaking of old guy Ali.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got this
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[SPEAKER_01]: forearm thing going on and and it started in July and I can't get it to go away and it's like on the I don't even know it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I keep trying to look things up and it goes tennis elbow and I go, no, it's there golfers elbow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, because it's not just like a strain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just some sort of strain right on the forearm and anything I do like if I do weights and stuff it gets worse and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it gets better, you know, a couple days after, and then it's worse again, and then just randomly my grip is gone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I might have no back to physical therapy again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to do it get so expensive when when your older it just gets expensive because you gotta go to physical therapy like every other year for something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I the doctor was like, I can schedule you physical therapy and I was like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I already know how to do all of these exercises.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it valuable to get a doctor to tell me to do these exercises that I know how?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the last time I went to physical therapy, at some point, he didn't even, like he, he, I worked myself out because he was like, yeah, you work yourself out harder than I can work you out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you just do it and it was just literally the facility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's just like, I gotta figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really what the,
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[SPEAKER_00]: what the value is with the risk because we're playing once a week every weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's almost like I'm preparing my body for this two hours, hour and a half class every week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's got to create it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's to start sending you some quarters own injection needles or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I already get shots in my knees as it is for for the arthritis stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so it's been old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will be back now as far as when I think we're going to play by ear as far if the giants do something and they make a higher
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[SPEAKER_00]: will probably back in our normal Monday slot live streaming like usual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if they don't, if nothing happens next week and we're still kind of in the same position, maybe we'll we'll skip a week or we'll come back midweek or we'll do something but we're not going to force
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[SPEAKER_00]: the show necessarily just to be on schedule because we want to have something juicy to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's just kind of going to be the rhythm during the off season is when we got stuff to talk about, we're going to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if not, just a break, which is why we have the other shows that we do, we want winners Rod and I were up last night after the 49ers got beat up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just a beat up team, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're, they're, they're losing guys left in the right for season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's football, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so frustrating, too, because you have all these high hopes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've done that a few times with the Rams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get all these high hopes and all of a sudden you lose your key guys and you're like, well, now we just get to watch the young guys play and hope they do well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Golden State hoop with our Pad Halla show with the Valqueries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're in the, they're in the off season and it's a very
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[SPEAKER_00]: have to redo the CBA and there's lots of stuff going on there and then of course the Warriors start their season next week already they start and Brad you'll like this they're back on NBC which they haven't been on NBC the basketball hasn't been on NBC in over 20 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah right here the John Taschman all over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love that John Taschman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been seeing the commercials and I get excited for any time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it'll be cool to see them back on NBC, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_00]: or what the deal that they don't have anymore is Turner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So no teens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've been on TNT or at least on Turner Sports on an office that 80s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was kind of crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's why Barkley, so that's why Barkley, he's done, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they moved that show to ESPN.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think it's going to be the same, but we'll see, it doesn't feel like it,
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[SPEAKER_00]: All righty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like I said, we'll be back if there is some news and if not, we just may take the week off, but we'll play it by ear and just always stay subscribe to the podcast feed and also to the YouTube channel and you will know if we have a show, but we got other shows going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there will not be a lack of content.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, for Brad, I am WG, we will see when we see you piece out piece.
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[SPEAKER_00]: with Drosion, throws to Sandberg and the pitch is crowded a second base, Thompson has it, throws the first, it's over 27 years of waiting, it built on it, then you're going to have someone to put it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It stops into Clark Brad, this one of the first times, and I can't even remember that we actually haven't livestream our show.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's historically a live stream show on YouTube.
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[SPEAKER_00]: People listening on audio they don't care about this.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We decided you know it's probably going to have a little bit of a shorter show giants have not signed a new manager or hired a new manager yet So there's not a ton to talk about in giant space ball land and the the NLCS and the ALCS are on going and so far the Toronto BlueJays have taken a giant dump on the baseball field
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and the Mariners team's just looking great that especially after the NLDS which seem to go on for about I don't know that that game felt like it was like a 10 hour game the other that was crazy because I was watching other stuff and I kept coming back and then finally.
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[SPEAKER_01]: is around the 12th inning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I was like, you know what, I'm just going to tell my wife I said, I like to watch the rest of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's late.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm just going to watch the rest of this.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Should be over soon.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I said, what it could keep going.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm like five, six more Indians.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And it did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And the poor blue jays, I picked them to win the world series.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I mean, you know, that there's still time we know how these series go.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's still the Seattle Mariners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you never know anything can happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, and so on the other end, the Dodgers and the brewers have kicked off their NLCS and you know, there's something in me that says, oh man, the brewers are the perfect team to beat the Dodgers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they beat them in the regular season, every single game that they played, but the Dodgers seem to have been peaking at the perfect time right now.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's so frustrating to watch.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We need more of Clayton Kershaw because they don't kind of either they put them on the roster I who knows, I mean, you think they'd have to write in a seven game series, you kind of you kind of have to, but I think the giant left left lenta come off the roster on one of the 2014 series is I don't remember which one, but
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it could have been the three of five, 2014.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, well, it was our three of five and 2014 cardinals, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so it could have been that series, but
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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, this hope hoping for a either a short series for the Brewers are just a long series no matter what and yeah, well, we'll have to figure out like I, you know, you had the blue jays winning it all I had the fillies winning it all and today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Did Bayer, they barely got to game four.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, you know, guys, forget how many outs there are and the most important games of their life.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And fumble the ball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And like, this is like the so much pressure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I feel bad for the pitcher, but at the same time, like, dude, what if you expect?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I mean, it's, you know, it's come down to basically it's, we're pinning our hopes on the brewers, pinning our hopes on the blue jays, we're pinning our hopes on the Mariners.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, because we're not there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's the problem is where that by the way, the 2014
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[SPEAKER_00]: Washington.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's that that's the one where Brandon belt hit the home run.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, he didn't number 18 or exactly we had the cards in the four out of four out of seven.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And that's where you should cover, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, walked it off.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That was that was the big one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But yeah, I mean, we're pinned on our hopes on some of the other teams because we're giant fans.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh, no, nobody wants to see this garbage.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The the, um, yeah, the the
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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the MLB got what they wanted last year with the Yankees and the Dodgers.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They got Yankees and Red Sox this year.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But Yankees kind of disappointed a little bit there and just getting mashed by the blue jays.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the other side, the Tigers who had such a fantastic like first 65-70% of the season and they just fell off so hard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then on the other side, you know, Philly's were fantastic with like we said, when they lost wheeler that was kind of like, oh, no, you know, this may this may be a problem and then on the other side with the brewers and the cubs, you know, having a long series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's been it's been an interesting, I wouldn't call this play off like super exciting or super fantastic or whatever, like it's kind of like
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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a little bit of stuff where I was like I didn't really expect that to happen, but then on the other end when you have the Dodgers and the Brewers in the NLCS, you're like, that's exactly what you've done, you know, some of what you saw in regular season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That was definitely a formidable series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will, when we check back in, I'm sure we'll probably have a better idea, at least with what the world series is going to look like.
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[SPEAKER_00]: based on what we've seen so far.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So as expected, Bruce Boachy steps down and skip shoemaker is the choice in Texas, which leaves somebody like Nick Hunley for the Giants, but then just today.
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Padre's manager stepped down and so there's now a spot open in San Diego and you had mentioned to me offline that Nikon Lee actually lives in San Diego.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you wonder if that is a possibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if I'm picking between two franchises as awesome as having Fernando Tettis for the next 10 years or whatever might look, that that place just seems messy man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, yeah, and you're right.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And when I threw that out there, I completely forgot about their situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I didn't really think of it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And yeah ownership is a mess, but you do have a GM who goes for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, but I mean,
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[SPEAKER_01]: going for it and not knowing who your ownership is going to be and are they going to let you go for it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Next year the year after that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So yeah, it's a tough situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If, you know, honestly, if you had to choose between the giants and Buster Posey and the podraise and and Preller.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think right now you've got to lean towards the giants just because of that situation and you look at the giants roster and you have to say to and not ballpark and if they're going to go after a lot of pitching you've got to look at all those situations and I think if I'm a manager I'm probably going to lean towards the giants as well plus humly and and pose you have that relationship you know, humly was posed these back up catcher 2018-19
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[SPEAKER_01]: hungry doesn't really have any ties to the podries.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you've got to look at that as well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You would think if, if Honley's going to take his first managerial job, I think he's going to want to do with his friend and co-catcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Buster Posey as his boss, because it kind of gives them, you know, they know each other.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so making decisions could go hand in hand with those two and be an ideal situation, I think, for only.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it with catchers and me coming managers, by the way?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think it's just because they're field managers for the most part, when they're out there, they're kind of running the show, they're calling the game, they're deep into the game.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They know hitters, tendencies, pitchers, tendencies, field or position based on pitches.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, they have their hands and everything and they're brain and everything before the game when it comes to prep work.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Um, so I think that's it, you know, they're, they call, they call catchers gear the tools of ignorance.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Really, there are so many catchers that are managers nowadays.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you can't really say that, but I mean, it's the old joke.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, this guy's kind of a meathead, let's throw some gear on him and stick him behind the plate.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, you got to be a brain, especially nowadays you've got to be a brain to be a catcher in this league.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was like thinking like, oh, there's not that many short stops as managers that I can remember or center fielders.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But then if you go back to when when we were younger, Frank Robinson, Hall of Fame outfielder, Roger Craig, sort of, you know, long time picture, but not stand out in any way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Dusty's an outfielder, a Philippe Lou is an outfielder, and then Bochi, catcher, meltdown.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You did have a Aussie Guillain, who was a short stop, who was a manager for a short period of time, but obviously we found out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He wasn't that smart.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So, if you want to know how he got fired, go ahead and look that one up, but yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But yeah, I mean, there seems like catchers
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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, usually, I don't know, I guess we'd have to look at it historically what positions are these players, uh, give Kapler outfielder, uh, Dave Roberts outfielder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, uh, you know, done madingly first basement.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He's, he's one of the rare first basements that I can remember.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's true.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, all right.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, let's talk about, uh, the, I guess the giants did
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[SPEAKER_00]: the Oral's managers who's a Bay Area native.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The San Francisco standard mentioned that it wasn't confirmed if it was a formal interview or not.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't, you know, we haven't really heard
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[SPEAKER_00]: really anybody else.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We only know that he talked to Bruce Boachy and basically said, you know, if you want to help out in any way, let me know, but they're not going to go back to that one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Not going to go back to that well and they're looking for someone younger and and someone who they can, you know, establish and have, you know, many years and I have actually heard.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of that made a lot of sense to me when they were talking about Bochi, the idea of Bochi and you know, we kind of said the same thing like if you, you know, if you were the team that was like at 98 wins every year and you just needed someone to get you over the hump.
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[SPEAKER_00]: then you're like, yeah, we need the hired gun to come in and help us get over the top.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But with the giants we're looking for is somebody like you don't want to have somebody who at any point could just retire on you because then you're always kind of wondering and you you're always having to prepare for that to happen and so.
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[SPEAKER_00]: you know, trying to find somebody that you can establish a relationship with and hopefully keep around for a long time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That makes a lot of sense.
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[SPEAKER_00]: The only thing that did make sense beneath Bochi is like if they hired Bochi and then whoever the replacement was going to be and they're on the same staff and you're just kind of getting that person ready and being under the tutelage of Bruce Bochi.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I at this point, I'm kind of hopeful for Hunley and for no other reason, then he's a former giant and seems to be highly thought of and.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I, you know, the when it comes to these candidates, you don't know, we don't really know how much styles of managing influences teams, how our managers, how are they valuable in these days, because you see someone like Dave Roberts who's been Uber successful, but his reputation is more as a button pusher than anything else, and that's probably a disservice to Dave Roberts, because there is more to that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But, you know, how much influence do they have?
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[SPEAKER_00]: So, you know, this whole thing, like, manager-wise, were like, oh, yay, Gabe Kapler, and then, oh, yay, Bob Melvin, like, you know, we didn't really have an opinion plus or negative, like, all that Bob Melvin, he blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're just like, yeah, you just trust these guys to make the decisions and hope that it works.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, and a guy like Bob Melvin though, you could look at a track record, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've seen him do it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know who he is and what he's about.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I mean, we've seen him with Matt Williams for years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We've seen him with all these guys on different teams for years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: With a guy like Nick Hanley, you just kind of go well.
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[SPEAKER_01]: there's no track record.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He hasn't managed anywhere in professional baseball.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So that's a little bit of a tough one, but against even vote never did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you have to kind of look at those guys and say, well, Stephen vote was a catcher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: uh... he worked with us repository uh... and it only is a catcher he worked with us dream policy doesn't mean it's going to give us the same results now absolutely not but still you you that that's all you can look at it and you have to say look if buster is picking a guy like nick on leave doesn't have the experience he's got the at most uh...
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm at a loss for words.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't even, they are most confident in him.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's what I wanted to say.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So the situation like that, it would be exciting.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think from a standpoint of a fan, but also we're going to look back and say, look at the first half of the season, can Nick only do that and then push us
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[SPEAKER_01]: past that to the point where we can win three more ball games, you know, and again is the nationally going to be like that next year where you're getting in with 84 wins as the final wild card spot.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think that's an anomaly.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think that's going to happen every year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We talk about what 90 wins, 89, 90, 90, one somewhere in there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: If Nick
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[SPEAKER_01]: and lead them to that with no experience.
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[SPEAKER_01]: That's something exciting, but also we look at the other end of the spectrum when we say it could be a disaster.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So it's never managed before.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And I don't think Buster wants to put himself in that type of situation.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if he picks Nick Hundley, he's going to give him a few years.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think Buster Posey's gonna make a higher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: See how it goes in a year and a half and then can somebody during the, you know,
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[SPEAKER_01]: So this is going to be a pick that's going to be around for probably four or five years to see what they can do because you know they're still assuming youth in this ball club and then you've got Devers locked up for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a Domus locked up for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got Chapman locked up for a while.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got Eldridge coming up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You've got a lot of these guys you know, Elliott Romus.
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[SPEAKER_01]: They're going to be there for a while and so yeah, I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's kind of nerve-racking as a fan because we're sitting here going man.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We haven't heard anything.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He said he was going to keep it close to his vest.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's done that and it's getting a little nerve-racking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought we would wake up this morning.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I thought, OK, Monday morning, we're going to wake up.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're going to hear some news.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yep.
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[SPEAKER_01]: There's going to be a higher.
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[SPEAKER_01]: But no, we just hear about another, you know, stepped down of a manager in the National League West.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And so now we're like, oh, what, now what happens?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now it's the clock is ticking.
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[SPEAKER_01]: We're gonna make a move here.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess one of the reasons maybe to not do anything right now is if he had ideas of a folks who are on the current coaching staff, but the team's still available, so maybe there is a waiting period for that.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe there are people that busster wants to talk to on those staffs.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's a possibility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, we're just going to have to be patient on this one.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I guess the last thing I wanted to ask you and we didn't really prep this, but it was just
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Buster obviously's talked about the the type of team that he wants.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, smart base running, strong defense, good pitching.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what he believes wins baseball games.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And I was thinking like, if you as a fan, if you're, if you could tell Buster, hey,
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[SPEAKER_00]: We need a better player at this position.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What position would you actually choose?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, and we are thinking, okay, we got Bryson Devers to control first.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got Casey and Coss at second.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got Adamus and Chapman filling out the infield.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then you got Jung who in center, Elliott in left and then whomever is gonna play right field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, you just said it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, that's where I want to upgrade and right field and I'm sure everybody does and I'm sure that's Buster's probably number one.
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[SPEAKER_01]: When you look at the lineup, Kyle Tucker's going to be out there.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, are we going to be given away a big contracts again to non-pitcher to position players?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think so.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't think it's going to be a Kyle
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[SPEAKER_01]: But if you really want to shore up this lineup and you really want to show free agent pictures that you're serious about winning, then you get a Kyle Tucker and you stick him in right field.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you've got a really nice looking outfield.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You got a really nice looking three through six in the lineup.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And then you've got starting pictures that they're going to look
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[SPEAKER_01]: He's guys are now they're going to score some runs and I get a pitch in that ballpark and I don't have to and I also get a pitch in like
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[SPEAKER_01]: Dodger Stadium, and some of the other ball parks around the National League, West, and the American League West.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's something I definitely want to do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I would say right field, and not necessarily Kyle Tucker, but when you talk about Alfielders, stick Jung Hulian right, and then put Kyle Tucker and Senator, or whatever you want to do it,
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[SPEAKER_01]: power outfielder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll actually like the idea of something that we talked about all, you know, second half of the season, which is, could we get a dynamite center fielder and move junk who over to left?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now that would create some frustration and with
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[SPEAKER_00]: I have a hard time thinking that they're going to sign another long term contract on an older player, not older, like right now, but one that ages, you know, at the end, because you don't want to get stuck with, you're going to have devours at 38 years old, making, you know, 30 million or whatever, and then another guy who's can't really play the field, like you don't want to overload on that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I do wonder if like I can't imagine like you know there's Peter Lanzo like I can't imagine the giant signing Peter Lanzo to like a nine year deal right because you're going to because you cannot pair all of these guys up with long contracts because they all expire and get old at the same time.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It really is going to be about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: their draft and then bringing in younger players are trading for younger players which is which is costly as we know especially if they have time left until free agency.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I don't know who that player is like we thought.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we thought that there were some some centerfielders on the in the farm system or like, oh, what about grandma Craig?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what about Wade Meckler?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, what about, uh, was that kid's name who was like the old guy, but he kept getting hurt?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it fun?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then was it?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Vaughn Brown.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We thought we had those guys possibly, and none of them have
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[SPEAKER_00]: Grant McCrake could hit a curve ball or, you know, could not strike out 150 times.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And maybe he becomes that guy.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw that throw in that Dodgers game, right?
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[SPEAKER_01]: When he threw the guy out, he sent a replacement for that fielder.
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[SPEAKER_00]: We got a lot of those guys and he's got speed.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But there it would be nice to have somebody, you know, fill that spot in center field or
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[SPEAKER_00]: a good really good defensive left filter that makes young who leaves life a little bit easier because there's a lot of space out there.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's what I would look at.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Giants fans are going to like this one, but looking at the list of preliminary how filters and the top four based on war last year.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Number one would be Kyle Tucker a 0.7 war.
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[SPEAKER_01]: He is 29 years old.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You could do a seven year deal eight year deal, but like you said to the Giants want to do that long of a deal for another, you know, another hitter on number two, Cody Belinger 30 years old that could be a fit again, he I don't think he's going to want anything less than a seven year deal probably at this point, he's probably going to want to retire with whatever club he goes to number three on the list.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I'm only doing the top four Harrison Bader 4.4.
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[SPEAKER_01]: And to get Cody Bellinger has a player option, so he still has to opt out.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Harrison Bader has a mutual option, but he has a 4.4 war.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Guess who number four is on the list?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Top four out of filters.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Micah Stremski.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Micah Stremski.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, our old pal, 4.1 war, 35 years old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I still blame Harrison Bader, by the way, for that Philly series.
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[SPEAKER_00]: He had Vesia on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: just he had him and he goes three two three two three two and the pitchy swung it and that at bat and left him off and let him off the hook was not even close to strike so like what are you doing dude like again you know I understand
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[SPEAKER_00]: These are clutch moments and there's lots of, you know, a lot's of urgency and nervousness, but like you're there, you're professional baseball player.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Come on.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Can't swing.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Well, he looks like a professional baseball player, but sometimes he'll have it bats like that.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, you look at last year, too.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It hits 305 with an OPS plus 124.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So you think is, is a little punch in war that he got.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Do you think that had a lot to do with that lineup?
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[SPEAKER_01]: Ballpark?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I mean, because Minnesota's lineup is bad.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So when you look at somebody's war, you go, well,
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[SPEAKER_01]: The lineup around him helped.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So if the giants went and got a guy like him with a 4.4 war last year, did you even expect the same kind of production out of him?
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't know.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I wouldn't personally.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I know he, I know he hurt his hamstring or whatever and he, he was day to day in a lot of that series, but it's, it was like, you know, when you watch these moments and you're like, man, the Dodgers bullpen is suffering, like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Bryce might have, he probably is like, man, this, what was me?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Calgon take me away.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I can't do this by myself.
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[SPEAKER_00]: What are the who are these guys?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Whatever.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Could have been in San Francisco.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's funny too because hating the Dodgers as much as we do.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Then we get ourselves some new villains throughout the playoffs guys who can't produce against the Dodgers when the light is shining on them like Harrison Bader.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Now we're frustrated with that guy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, I want to see him do bad next year, but you know, I don't want to see him do bad if he's a giant.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, yeah, I know.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, let's end this with a little bit of old guy, Ali.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had an MRI done on my left knee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So what I think it is, and I've had this injury before.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I had it in college, actually, at San Jose State,
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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, it sounds a state.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I took basketball class like PE, like every semester.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Like I just, yes, very didn't I didn't I play with you in an inner mural.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think you did.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I think we did like in a league with a bunch of other guys from give the radio station guys.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was fun.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, and so, but I would just take like, I didn't get any credit for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I was essentially paying San Jose state so that I could play
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, just that they're in play.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, so get it, get a credit for it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I did a, I did like a crossover and my left knee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: like just gave out completely and I just went down boom hit the floor.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so then I had to hop my way over to the doctor or the nurse or whatever to have them just check it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And they're like, you know, go see a real doctor and have them look at it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And what it turned out is it was a sprained MCL in my knee.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had to get a brace and all that stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So I remember what that felt like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: And over the last couple of weeks, I felt that little pinch in my knee again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And it's from basically from playing pickleball.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Now pickleball is lots of folks pick up injuries because
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[SPEAKER_00]: you go from, you know, I'm sure there are active people who are also playing Pickleball, but you go from like not really being that active in that same way.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And now you're like hustling around the court and starting to stop and, you know, knees are doing stuff that they haven't done in a little while.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I can see why the injuries happen.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But it is so weird trying to figure
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[SPEAKER_00]: make sure my knees are okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I thought I was like, okay, get some more I done.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I should get the results sometime today or tomorrow.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But
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[SPEAKER_00]: Then it's like, well, we have pickleball class or we have to play and I'm like, oh my gosh, like, how can I even walk let alone play?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's that table mentality of like, you know, when you're playing a city league baseball and your arm hurts and you can barely raise it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: You're like, no, I got to play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, I can't not play.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Like the competition is what gets me going.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I'm like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: doing like all kinds of stretching and I'm putting CBD oil on my knees underneath my knee braces to keep it heated throughout the practice and it's just insane.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably not not best for my health, but it's just those get still get those competitive juices going so it's so much fun.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Oh yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, I'm with you and I've got speaking of old guy Ali.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've got this
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[SPEAKER_01]: forearm thing going on and and it started in July and I can't get it to go away and it's like on the I don't even know it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I keep trying to look things up and it goes tennis elbow and I go, no, it's there golfers elbow.
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[SPEAKER_01]: No, because it's not just like a strain.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, it's just some sort of strain right on the forearm and anything I do like if I do weights and stuff it gets worse and
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, and it gets better, you know, a couple days after, and then it's worse again, and then just randomly my grip is gone.
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[SPEAKER_01]: So I might have no back to physical therapy again.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I don't want to do it get so expensive when when your older it just gets expensive because you gotta go to physical therapy like every other year for something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I know I the doctor was like, I can schedule you physical therapy and I was like,
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[SPEAKER_00]: Man, I already know how to do all of these exercises.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Is it valuable to get a doctor to tell me to do these exercises that I know how?
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[SPEAKER_00]: Because the last time I went to physical therapy, at some point, he didn't even, like he, he, I worked myself out because he was like, yeah, you work yourself out harder than I can work you out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So you just do it and it was just literally the facility.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, it's just like, I gotta figure it out.
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[SPEAKER_00]: It's really what the,
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[SPEAKER_00]: what the value is with the risk because we're playing once a week every weekend.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so it's almost like I'm preparing my body for this two hours, hour and a half class every week.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So it's got to create it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's to start sending you some quarters own injection needles or something.
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[SPEAKER_00]: I already get shots in my knees as it is for for the arthritis stuff.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we'll see.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, so it's been old.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, it does.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So we will be back now as far as when I think we're going to play by ear as far if the giants do something and they make a higher
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[SPEAKER_00]: will probably back in our normal Monday slot live streaming like usual.
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[SPEAKER_00]: But if they don't, if nothing happens next week and we're still kind of in the same position, maybe we'll we'll skip a week or we'll come back midweek or we'll do something but we're not going to force
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[SPEAKER_00]: the show necessarily just to be on schedule because we want to have something juicy to talk about.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And so that's just kind of going to be the rhythm during the off season is when we got stuff to talk about, we're going to talk about it.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And if not, just a break, which is why we have the other shows that we do, we want winners Rod and I were up last night after the 49ers got beat up.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're just a beat up team, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: There you go.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're, they're, they're losing guys left in the right for season.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's football, man.
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[SPEAKER_00]: That's it.
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[SPEAKER_01]: It's so frustrating, too, because you have all these high hopes.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You know, I've done that a few times with the Rams.
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[SPEAKER_01]: You get all these high hopes and all of a sudden you lose your key guys and you're like, well, now we just get to watch the young guys play and hope they do well.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.
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[SPEAKER_00]: And then Golden State hoop with our Pad Halla show with the Valqueries.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They're in the, they're in the off season and it's a very
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[SPEAKER_00]: have to redo the CBA and there's lots of stuff going on there and then of course the Warriors start their season next week already they start and Brad you'll like this they're back on NBC which they haven't been on NBC the basketball hasn't been on NBC in over 20 years.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah right here the John Taschman all over again.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Love that John Taschman.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I've been seeing the commercials and I get excited for any time.
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[SPEAKER_01]: I hear that song.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so it'll be cool to see them back on NBC, but no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no
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[SPEAKER_00]: or what the deal that they don't have anymore is Turner.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So no teens.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: They've been on TNT or at least on Turner Sports on an office that 80s.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that was kind of crazy.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah, that's why Barkley, so that's why Barkley, he's done, right?
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[SPEAKER_00]: No, they moved that show to ESPN.
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[SPEAKER_01]: Okay.
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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I don't think it's going to be the same, but we'll see, it doesn't feel like it,
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[SPEAKER_00]: All righty.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So like I said, we'll be back if there is some news and if not, we just may take the week off, but we'll play it by ear and just always stay subscribe to the podcast feed and also to the YouTube channel and you will know if we have a show, but we got other shows going on.
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[SPEAKER_00]: So there will not be a lack of content.
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[SPEAKER_00]: All right, for Brad, I am WG, we will see when we see you piece out piece.
