Giants 3-0 Start: Bo Davidson, Blade Tidwell & Spring Lineup Battles | Thompson 2 Clark

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[SPEAKER_00]: with Drosion, throws to Sandberg and the pitch is crowded a second base, Thompson has it, throws the first, it's over 27 years of waiting, it built on it, then you're going to have someone to put it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Those juggernaut spring training giants are 3-0 undefeated going for back-to-back spring cactus league champs right something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, some of the Dodgers don't have exactly it is kind of funny though because last week and this this may simply be like, you know, sometimes in the spring there are stories and we'll get into some stories or things that we're looking for or looking toward since the since games are going on, but you know, last week is all that vertelo and that press conference that he had and then they played some games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I don't really hear anybody talking about that press conference from last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was just, you know, it's one of those.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, and we kind of knew it last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We talked about last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: There wasn't anything else to talk about.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he might be an over year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We were never picking it about it a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We were thinking, you know, hey, let's talk about the, you know, the long relievers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's talk about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, he hadn't seen them yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And even in game situations, he hadn't seen them yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's where we're at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, we used to do segment on this show where we would talk about the the drinks that we were having and at some point we were just kind of drinking the same thing over and over and over.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But just just because I'm drinking it now and I wanted to start to mention it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So.

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[SPEAKER_00]: was it like New Year's or something it was like either late last year early this year you sent me a photo and you were like I'm going to make a Monte Carlo and I was like what is a Monte Carlo I've never heard of this before and so you showed me the ingredients you showed me the drink and I was like okay that is what every time I go to a restaurant that has a bar that is what I'm going to order

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[SPEAKER_00]: The problem is not everyone has one of the ingredients, which is the bed, benedictine, which is a, it's like, uh, is it a rum?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what is it actually?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's just kind of like a mixed up decor, um, and it's 40% alcohol.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's 80 proof.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let me see what is, uh, like a brandy or something, I think.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think it's, let's see, it's a French herbal liquor made up of 27 different plants and spices.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just kind of a big mishmash, just kind of like knitters, bitters, same thing, bitters are just kind of like aromatic in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They do have some alcohol in bitters as well, because they're fermented.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, they don't let you, they don't just let you, they usually don't let you go to the, uh, to the, uh, scan it yourself part of the grocery store.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They make it go through the thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now, the trick is, if you try the Benedictine by itself, no, you want to taste like I have not done that either.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And every mixed drink thing that I've seen about the Monte Carlo is like, oh, try the Benedictine by itself first a little bit and then you'll know how much you want.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Carlo because like you said you've seen half-ounce quarter-out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I've seen a full-ounce.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, my, you know, a lot of recipes that are all over the place.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've kind of settled on a half-ounce.

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[SPEAKER_02]: One ounce is a little too much, a little too sweet for you.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't like sweet drinks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So a half-ounce is good, but then Denise tasted the one I made with a half-ounce the other night.

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[SPEAKER_02]: She goes, I'm surprised you like this.

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[SPEAKER_02]: because it's really sugary, I think it's just I think it's just that half ounce of Benedictine really gives off an interesting sugary plumb type of flavors.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So the reason why I mentioned it is because since it's been so hard to find, I did find it over the weekend though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I was at an Italian little restaurant in near Oakland and they had it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I've also had it at a Mexican restaurant out here in Santa Clara area.

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[SPEAKER_00]: everywhere else.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're like, nope, we don't have it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But then, you know, so then I just order a Manhattan.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But you said that you had just gone to the to the store to the total wine and you found some Benedictine.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I went to the total wine today and I found some.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So now I can make my own Monti Carlos for our show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So did you make one yet?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, that's right here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now here's the thing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I made

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The video I sent you super simple.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I put it in a tumbler glass like that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A rock glass, put a nice cube, like a, you know, one of the round ball ice cubes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Pour their ingredients in, stir it right in the glass, done.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, so the the the the one that I saw said to strain it so that there's no ice, but every time I've ordered it, it has come with ice, so I didn't I didn't have the cube or the the sphere right next to me, so I had to make it really quickly, but I'm going to make it with the sphere next the next one I do, but yeah, so it was super fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It was it was kind of fun to make these drinks because I enjoy them so very much when I'm out the restaurant.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, man.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I can just make them here too.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like it doesn't only have to be a restaurant thing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can make it and then you could put on a record and you could sit back and relax.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's what I like to do a lot of times.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll grab a record.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll put it on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Have a drink and then read the liner notes on the record.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because you know, some of this stuff was written by like Tony Bennett on the back of some Sinatra albums.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What's this big long thing about Sinatra and what he means to him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's just on some random record from like 1957.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I enjoyed doing that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Alright, so let's talk about some baseballs like we said spring training games are going on now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The giants have played three games and it's interesting the broadcast schedule because so far they've been putting them on the website and I don't think there's very many CSN Bay area games this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's only a couple.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I know that ESPN's

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[SPEAKER_00]: they're over the top service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: What is it called ESPN unlimited?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think it's called will have the game against Team USA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They will have that game on that service.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But so most of the opportunity to watch them is probably going to be through Twitter clips in YouTube and stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But did you get to watch any of this weekend?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I watched a little bit both Saturday and Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yesterday's game was kind of fun because of the Sunday game against the cubs because it was the, it they call it, giant TV.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's so, but it's basically just video feed from the ballpark switching cameras too, so there's somebody directing it as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then it was the audio overlay feed of

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[SPEAKER_02]: way better.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And Joe Ritso did today's games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I listened to a little bit of that game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's enjoy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I like Joe Ritso.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that was an enjoyable one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, yeah, there were some some things that came out of the games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Nothing.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it's so hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: early on because Hayden Bird-Song got sheld in the first game, yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, you know, his cutter wasn't working and it's his new pitch that he's working on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, you know, tweaks will be made and things will happen and nobody's pitching more than in any right now anyway.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, next starts, you're going to see guys go tourist reunions.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So we're still in the early stage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We're not even through the quote unquote rotation at this point, but we did have Bird-Song go,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Robby Ray went yesterday and then Trevor McDonald today who who got you know kind of Ray reviews as fast balls up to 97.6 on the gun which is great so because I think he was sitting 94 last year so up to 976 and he's one he's kind of a dark horse to be you know fifth starter spot starter if they need somebody so he was one of the guys we talked about last week yeah it's going to be interesting to see how they do it because

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have a lot of name arms in the bullpen, but they have a lot of guys who are in their farm system who they could see as a possible five, six, seven, eight reliever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So do you stretch those guys out in AAA and let them start?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Or do you bring them onto the big roster and go, hey,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You don't have to worry about going three innings here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You only need to go one and then you get Trevor McDonald hit 98 on the gun because he doesn't really have to worry about going three or four innings.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And same with the wisdom hunt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think they probably want do want wisdom hunt to be

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[SPEAKER_00]: a starter, but we heard that he was at like 97 or something on the gun the other day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that could be an option as well, because it is nice, you know, when you watch the Dodgers and that, you know, they only their starters go like four innings, unless it's Yamamoto.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then it's like, okay, innings five through eight, everyone's throwing 100 miles in that right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And I do like that question, though, but I think personally, I think that's a

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because personally, I think 26, those guys are in triple A.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's not even a question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You stretch them out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to need them this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you start to look at next year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What bullpen pieces just collapse this year?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where are seven and eight guys are set up guys?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Where they just awful and we couldn't find anybody while we have a

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do you make a trade for a starting picture with a couple of years of control at the all-star break now now you don't have to worry about Trevor McDonald now you can okay now let's switch him over twenty twenty seven this is going to be a big key bullpen piece for us so I think having the flexibility this year

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's great and we, you know, when we're seeing them sign Trevor Mollie and they're we're seeing them sign a house or we're like, okay, where's our flexibility and and now you see the roster and you start to see like a keyton win and and Tristan back and you see these guys you go, okay, we actually do kind of have some bullpen flexibility, we're going to be moving pieces back and forth.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot of these guys still have options too, like the garo and you know

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you might see some back and forth moving around until that bullpen gets dialed in, but I think definitely like a Trevor McDonald.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If he's got the stamina and can stay at 96-97 for six innings, that's valuable.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think you want to mess with that this year, but that's just

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, we have 30 days until baseball by the way, 30 days until that Netflix game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Wow, which will be, I'm actually very interested in what that Netflix game looks like.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I'll be in Disneyland watching it on the phone and line or you know, that's one of the year that week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, so when is that game?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What day is that game on?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw on a Wednesday to 25 and when do you leave we fly out of here?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay, so I'm trying to talk.

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[SPEAKER_00]: my buddy in to do a episode of Giants versus Dodgers, where we both talk about a game still open up the season.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that might be the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll slip that in while you're gone just so you have a show.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Morgan on it, not a hundred percent, but we'll see if we can make that happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So like we said, the Vitello story kind of went away though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I did hear some harsh takes.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There were some people who were like, buddy, you are lucky that you are in this market and not in other more harsh markets, because that is not the kind of thing that would go unnoticed in other markets.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I think the Bay Area, more than anything was just trying to be really fair to the moment and what he's going through right now and which I appreciate.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's what I appreciate about the

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I'm like, yeah, those, it's not very thoughtful.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, it's very negative and harsh, but it's also not that thoughtful and glad that we have the writers that we do here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he escaped that and from what I gather, he's kind of toned down the Tennessee rhetoric, which is good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Not that he asked you completely.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got his Tennessee boys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We saw Blake, he said, well, yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: do you feel like this is less than learned or maybe he doesn't even think that it was really an issue.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he's like, oh, that's just who I am.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe out maybe that will happen again at some point sometime.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, he did say the next day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Look, I said what I said, I'm not going back on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's over with.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so I think you got to take him for his word on that at this point until we see something otherwise.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: we've been through the capler years in the Melving years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so we've seen like, okay, same old, same old team as 500.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you say for the one year the capler, you know, they won 100 plus games and went to the playoffs, set up franchise record.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But again, just couldn't get past Dodgers, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: neither here nor there, but what we see them in their 500 seasons is a lot of, you know, hey, we got to get better at this and we got to get better at that and then things don't change and then it becomes just the same old same old and then we get tired as fans.

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[SPEAKER_01]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then we're like, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I don't know about you, but I love watching soon as the game is over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'll stay with NBC Sports Bay area because I want to see what

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[SPEAKER_02]: If it becomes the same all same all and we lose a one run game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bull plant bullpen blows the eight to nine inning and we lose a one run game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I will turn it off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't want to hear, especially if I've heard it before over and over.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So until I see, if I tell you get there, which I hope he doesn't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to give him better for the doubt and just say, look, it was one of those things.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He just rubbed him the wrong way.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He wanted to clear the air.

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[SPEAKER_02]: maybe he thought everybody else was on his side and thought oh here he is this guy is clearing the air this is what we want to hear and this is it but instead the media was like uh what you know not honestly the the media I thought the media

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[SPEAKER_00]: was actually less frustrated than the fan base was now the media like the media doesn't really care right they're writing their stories but they're kind of going like oh from what we've seen in the past this is how managers have handled that scenario but the fake like the fan base was like okay dude do you want to be here do you not want to be here what's going on right like that was the immediate reaction

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[SPEAKER_00]: go hold on like this is all he really knows and he hasn't been able to tell this story.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he should have told that story right when he joined.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yes, but he felt that he'd need to do it now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so I thought the media was kind of kind of helped him in a sense because the fans were like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: put Tennessee in the past.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And he can't really do that yet because there was something there for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Now, I don't agree with the way that he did it necessarily because it did make me sort of think like, okay, he's used to the kiss ass media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's actually not used to, like real media.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That was my initial instinct.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But because your Susan Slusser type of journalists,

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[SPEAKER_00]: he's he did this all he knows like let let's if you want a great him or if you want to ding him or if you want to critique him let's wait until there's actually baseball to be played before doing that which at that was fair and and so that's why I like reading all of the others I would say Tim Calcami was on the other side and he was kind of like what does that expect like yeah yeah he was in the same calcami also

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[SPEAKER_00]: He, like one of his first jobs was covering the late 80s Philadelphia Eagles, but he Ryan team.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he was thrown into the deep end as a journalist.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And so he knows what those harsh markets are like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that's kind of, he's part, he is very thoughtful as well, but he does have those experiences.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then kind of in the middle was John Shey, who was like, yeah, a little bit of this, a little bit of that, you know, up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So it was really good to get a read of everybody's

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh... baggerly is going to be tough he's got a way uh... he he probably has like the best uh... command of language of any of the bury writers he's such a good writer so i thought his piece was really good but at the end of the day i think the bottom line is okay what is what's going to happen on the field because i think i said this last week

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could cry about Tennessee every week if he wants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: If the Giants win 105 games, I don't give a crap.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, let's talk more about Tennessee.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I want to hear about, you know, your third string catcher, you know, who was catching bullpins.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, what was that?

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[SPEAKER_02]: How how you handled it when that kid's bird died.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Exactly.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Throw anatus.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't care.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So all right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's talk about some of the things, you know, it's only been three games.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But at least there's like data there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's like, it's all small sample size, but there's things there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's actual A-Bs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's a rise, I saw a rise hit a little flare, like a little dying quail and right field that's quarter run and I'm like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, man, he's going to hit a lot of those this year, like where we're like, oh, bad swing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, wait.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That fell right in front of the right field.

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[SPEAKER_00]: There's feet like yep.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to see a lot of those this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, but yeah, like, you know, so coming out of this thing, like, I told you like, let's let's talk about like some of the stories like we're kind of interested in.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I had one and I wanted to get your thoughts on it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the idea of the hit and run because you have two guys who are some of the best contact two of the best contact hitters and league in junk who and in a rise who who junk who calls Louie by the way, cause yeah, I want to call Louie now.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He can, but so the idea was like, you know, maybe there's a little bit of like

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[SPEAKER_00]: Game recognized game like maybe there's a little iron sharpening iron because they're their styles are similar and so then I took it to and the the next level, which is Let's say Luis Arise is only here for a year If he has a great year

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[SPEAKER_00]: He could be picked up by one of these other teams, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's like, okay, he's kind of back to who he was when he was in his earlier days.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like he's hitting 330, he's getting on base, he's scoring runs.

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[SPEAKER_00]: The giant's main not want to overpay for him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They want, they love him at this price.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Let's say that we only get him for this one year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm interested to see this relationship with him in Junghu because I want to see what Junghu can learn from this guy.

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[SPEAKER_00]: from the person like this in some of the quotes of that article was like I don't have verbatim but it was like a rise was like saying like you could even you could even be a little bit more aggressive on the bases like you should you should but a bunch for hits more often like and he was kind of throwing some things out there and I guess the idea of the piece was that

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[SPEAKER_00]: Louis was somebody who would call his own hit and runs sometimes because he's so confident that he's going to make contact and he sees something in the picture that gives him the idea of like, okay, this picture's coming.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll get a good jump and I'll be able to hit this, you know, in a certain part of the field where the runners on that and junk who was like, yeah, and Korea, we didn't really hit and run very much and also I would never call it

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like right, that's not anything I would ever do.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I just love this relationship.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that's something I want to watch.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like is Louie gonna rub off on him a little bit?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Is Jung who gonna be like, okay, like this is a guy who I can kind of like, I can look at as a model for what my career could be.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that was one of the things that I want to, I want to read more about these guys together.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That was fantastic because last week when we talked about what we wanted to see in the spring, what we were hoping to see in the spring, one of my things was base running.

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[SPEAKER_02]: aggressiveness, hit and run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mentioned that last week, and then we get this article this week about it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I got very excited when I saw that headline.

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[SPEAKER_02]: By the way, I was like, this is exactly what I want to see on this team.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We know if I tell a little coming over, motion, the pressure they want to put on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then the, you know, the quotes in that article from Hunter Mence about, you know,

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[SPEAKER_02]: when you're on offense, you want to be on offense instead of back on your heels and being protective, guys are out there throwing up or gas in the 90s, you know, 97, 98 and you're back on your heels and just hoping to put the ball in the play and not strike out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, if you can get things going and put pressure on the defense and make the pitcher throw more pitches, every inning, if you could do something like that or every other inning for that matter,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Um, you know, it's it's really you are on offense instead of just put the bat in our hands.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see if we can just get single single home run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, you're you're moving runners along and putting pressure on the defense.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so the hit and run, uh, there was a hit and run in in the spring training game yesterday on Sunday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't remember.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was listening to it on the radio.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I don't remember exactly who it was.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I did hear John Miller called hit and run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I thought this is, I'm in heaven.

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[SPEAKER_02]: it's kind of baseball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's be aggressive on the bases.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's hit and run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's bump for singles.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's move runners along.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's play baseball to score some runs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The Dodgers can go a single single home run.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They can do that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They can also strike out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So if you're forcing them to get runners on base, because you've gone up two or three nothing in the first inning, because you're moving runners along and getting key hits, now you've put pressure on that team to have to score runs.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yes, they can do it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you don't want to be in a position where you're down three, nothing early and have to get runners on base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Now if the giants are that type of team where they do go down three, nothing and they can manufacture runs, you feel a little more comfortable as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I like the comfort of being on offense and making things happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So what is something that you started thinking about after these three games as something you want to follow for the rest of spring?

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, Ed, you

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[SPEAKER_02]: There wasn't anything that stood out at me yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I have been looking at.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who is getting at bats?

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's kind of key right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you look at bats, we look at games played right now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The giants have played three games because of play the A's today.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be the guys that you expect to get into games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The one I didn't expect to get into three games right off the bat was Harrison Bader.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's played all three games so far.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's got six at bats, three hits.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He's driven in a couple of runs, struck out once.

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[SPEAKER_02]: walked on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So putting a bat on the ball, but the guys that we expect to see Bryce Eldridge, can he win the job at first base?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not necessarily win the job at first base, but win a roster spot at first base.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, to be in there with Davers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Drew Gilbert fighting for that fourth outfield spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Luis Matos, another guy who's playing three games, fighting for that outfield spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's what I've noticed, and I'm looking to see a little bit more of, who is getting into games?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who are they pushing out there to say?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We need a good long look at you, her rare and carnassion.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Not a great start off for five with two strikeouts.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I'll one of his strikeouts yesterday in the game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Swung it a pitch that was like,

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[SPEAKER_02]: brim of the hat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, it was just pretty nasty.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you want to see who's pushing, you know, who's scuffling and pushing and putting too much pressure on themselves.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it looked like it and Karnasio might have had a couple of pressure at bats yesterday, but

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[SPEAKER_02]: But all in all, that's what I've seen so far.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Lots of walks, lots of walks out of relief pictures, but guys whose names you're not going to see on their roster, when they break camp anyways.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But you know, that's kind of a bit of a concern too, because those guys are going to be in AAA.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You guys with control who are going to be able to come up and fill some spots.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, but that's what I've seen so far.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What do you think of the ABS systems

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[SPEAKER_02]: I love it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Did you see the one, the one overturned pitch that Willie Adomas got?

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was like the the sliverest of most slivery slivers.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is going to really piss people off.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is going to irritate people.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, if that happened to us, I'd be like, come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It was, it was a called strike three that he tapped a hat.

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[SPEAKER_02]: they came back and it was less than 0.1 inches and it was a ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Crazy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, you could like you said, I don't know if you could fit a piece of paper in between the top of the ball and the bottom of the strike zone.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If the bottom of the strike zone was a solid something, you know, I don't know if you could get a piece of paper in there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But it's fun and actually in box scores now,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You see ABS challenges.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh wow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So you can see who is successful.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Who burned the last challenge for your team?

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was I was looking at the box score yesterday and there were a lot of challenges because There were quite a few successful ones now.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the first game of the season I watched was Yankees and Orioles last Thursday

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[SPEAKER_02]: and the Yankees were over two on ABS challenges and and they hit the top of the 15 and that was it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah and they cut the boon and the look on on Aaron Boon's face was kind of like, oh my god guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I think they need to figure it out, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think the, yeah, probably, let's be a little more aggressive with it so we can learn as much as possible.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like, let's not leave that leave, you know, leave them in the chamber.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forgot what podcasts I was listening to.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But somebody said that last year in a minor league game that they watched.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because in the minors you were able to use three.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Was it in AAA?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe it's only in AAA.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I forget where they template.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah, because they've had it at Reno for a few years.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They said that there was a game that a scout was at and the all of the challenges got burned during the lead off hitters AB.

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[UNKNOWN]: Wow.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's brutal.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's hilarious.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's like a major league stuff, major league movie.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is so painful if you're a manager.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm sure he was like, you just hand cuffed us the rest of the game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I have another one that I was looking at.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Blake did well.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's on our radar also somebody who's fastballing, you know, we were kind of joking about this last week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Everyone's fastball should be the best fastball that they have right now because they've they're arrested.

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[SPEAKER_00]: No get arms show me what the fastball is in, you know, in June that you know that that that'll be a little bit more of a tell, but you know, Blake Tidwell, I think

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[SPEAKER_00]: Vitello knows those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows Tidwell.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows Gilbert.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're probably going to get the benefit of the doubt.

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[SPEAKER_00]: uh, and maybe if Tidwell can showcase that he can come into games and just, you know, get strikeouts where they need them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe he does make the, the roster is like a longer lever or maybe not a longer lever.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Maybe a more power reliever because, you know, we talked about Ryan Walker is it going to be his job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I know they, they want to see what will

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, for for this year, you kind of go by need and then, you know, his val, of course, starters are going to be more valuable than relievers, but maybe maybe he becomes like an ace reliever rather than like a middle road starter who knows, like that they could play with stuff like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And some of that's going to be based on trust and and we know Vitalos going to trust his guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He knows those guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that is something I'm going to follow is that the Blake Tidwell,

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[SPEAKER_00]: experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think I got three strikeouts yesterday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And one of the news works.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah, he's he's going to be the one.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And what's the coolest name on the planet to blade?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, come on.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's he's going to if you if he ends up becoming a closer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And and and we could we could run with that name.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that would be like it's a blade tid well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I keep I kept calling them being case on the same side, but blade is I mean, that is just like here comes the blade I mean, come on that's going to be awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, yeah, I'd be slicing and dicing hitters.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be fun to see too, because again, like we talked about earlier, it's going to be really fun to see now that you have a lot of options pitching wise for starters, for relievers, Tyler Malley just through today of live bullpen session, because he's coming back from, I think, surgery, right, but, and have we seen how's there yet?

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[SPEAKER_00]: We haven't seen how's there yet?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I haven't seen how's there yet.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not sure who's slated to throw tomorrow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm not even sure exactly with the schedule.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I've got to get, um,

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[SPEAKER_02]: I do have the schedule in my, uh, in my iOS calendar.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So what do we got tomorrow?

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[SPEAKER_02]: We got a 12 10 start tomorrow against the angels rest of the week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've got the, and all of these games, you can listen to all of them, or at least in most of them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Some of the split squad games can't listen to, but they're either on.

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[SPEAKER_00]: the website sfgis.com or can be our will broadcast them.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So I think everything except for like one one game and the split squad games like you can both split squad games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think the game against the Dodgers on the 27th coming up this Friday, I believe that's an ESPN game.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, ESPN shows a couple of games a week or a couple of games a day.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They show like a 10 o'clock game and MLB network also has some games, some spring games.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, that game against the Dodgers is going to be on one of the national networks.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that would be kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, there's a schedule if you go to the Giants Twitter account.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They have the broadcast schedule up there all the way through the day before the the opening day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, I wanted to talk about one more thing that I'm looking at because, you know, they keep talking about this dude, they keep talking about bow, bow Davidson.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, that's a lot to carry, isn't it?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, come on, can we compare him to like, can he be like, wouldn't, okay, if you're coming up, and let's, you know, giant history, you don't want to be called the juckelberry, because they're giant choose to fill.

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[SPEAKER_00]: what if you were like how about you just call me better than Fred Lewis like can you call better than Fred because it's a lot of that's a lot of people you're you're setting expectations hey Fred Lewis was the starting left-feeler in opening day in one year of his career he was he was a a prod he was one of their better prospects but never you know didn't actually

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[SPEAKER_00]: Um, fulfill what what he was they hoped that he did, but I saw him on bread or, uh, you know, there's there's other guys that, you know, you just have to be better than these guys.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And then you're not, you're not looked down upon us like a failure to fulfill Barry bonds issues.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I saw Fred Lewis on opening day for the Fresno Grizzlies back in the day 2010 here at Reno Ace's ballpark and Fred Lewis was in center field starting that day and some kid named Buster Posey was behind the plate there you go on that same night so that was kind of fun.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We'll Fred Lewis that guy.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was there for very long.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He was not.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, that was kind of an opening day and it was like early April 2010 and then I think he was there for about two months and that was pretty much it and then he's gone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He was because Buster comes up.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buster comes up on my birthday that year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Oh, okay.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, I was I really landed in Vegas.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Got off a flight in Vegas land.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Look at my phone.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Buster Posey is what was brought up to the back.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's awesome.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That is so cool.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's kind of a tough one for Bo Davidson.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I know one of your boys is JJ is all over the Bo Davidson train.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Do we see him this year?

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[SPEAKER_02]: I guess that's going to be the question.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's going to be the questions are do we see Bryce Eldridge?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And by the way, John Miller is in spring, training mode because yesterday he called him Bryce Harper.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I was listening to the game because Bryce Harper, that Bryce Harper is on first for the Giants.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I said, who?

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[SPEAKER_02]: What?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, I just called Blade Tidwell, Blake Tidwell.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's, but that's close.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, that's very close.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, the questions are going to be, do we see Bryce Eldridge?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And are do we see Bo Davidson this year?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Bo Davidson's probably more of a long shot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But,

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[SPEAKER_02]: if the giants need outfield help and they've got a bevy of fourth outfielders but if it's easy to rise above that crew right now I think I think if you play really well but again they keep talking that he's going to be in double a he's going to start in double a but we may see him this year so if he tears up double a and you see him in triple a

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[SPEAKER_02]: There's a chance late in this season, depending on where we are or standing wise, who did do they want to start to clock on him.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, there's a lot of questions, but his interview, I watched an interview, KPIX in the Bay Area, the sports broadcaster does a great job with his pieces on,

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[SPEAKER_02]: on YouTube.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So he does little pieces from spring training and puts him on there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He had a great interview with him and you know, so you mentioned that.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He said, hey, we've heard that you, you know, have been compared to Barry Banzi because I don't know about any of that because I'm just happy to continue from where I came from to be able to play baseball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I didn't grow up in a great area because I'm here and I'm just so happy and you know, I'm just going to keep working hard at it.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, he's got to hit, right?

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like if he hits all levels, he can go through all those levels as a center fielder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's got to leg up because, you know, they've they've drafted so or they've signed, you know, all of their top prospects are short stops.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They don't have very many center fielders who you're

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[SPEAKER_00]: If I had to answer that question about sing Brice Elders, I've watched him as much as anyone and I would say I'd be absolutely shocked if he didn't make the opening day roster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think, I mean, I think he's got an inside track on it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: A lot would have to go wrong, but again, defense is always going to be a question, because if you've got rice, hydrogen first, and you've got Luis or Luis or Luis, as a junk who he calls him at second, now you're right side of your infields, a little suspect, so I think they have to feel comfortable with that as well, but I don't know the fans are going

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[SPEAKER_02]: maybe even in the opening day lineup.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that would be very exciting opening day lineup at home Yankees Wednesday night baseball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That would be a really big deal for the fans and I don't know if it's max freed.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He may not be hitting that day.

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[SPEAKER_00]: This is true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This is true.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Actually, it probably will be max free through your right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So I think they have an off day Thursday and they'll come back Friday.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So maybe Friday night.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Well, you know, I kind of wonder.

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[SPEAKER_00]: like you have to have a plan and if Bryce forces his way onto the team the plan would probably be he or devours is going to start at DH against right-hand pitching like every day like that's just what it is and then for a lefty

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[SPEAKER_00]: Who's going to be the DH?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So maybe if Bryce makes the team, then maybe N. Karnasione is the one who actually has to make the team because then you want to have a power guy as your DH on from, you know, from the right side.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So that I wonder if that would, I wonder if they're looking at it from that perspective like if we keep Bryce, then we probably keep N. Karnasione as well, just for that DH from the right side spot.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if you don't keep Bryce and maybe you keep I wouldn't even know who what what that would mean, but maybe then they go, okay, if we're not going to sit Bryce and we actually use the DH kind of like a utility, then maybe we do lean more towards defense and fill in the gaps that way.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But I got to think that Bryce kind of has to fail his way out of spring training to

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think I think you air on the side of not caution, but air on the side of, um, you know, hope.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And you haven't.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Again, like you said, unless something goes terribly wrong, but, but you, you have an.

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[SPEAKER_02]: you have them in the bigs to start.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's damaging to say, hey, look, a month and a half, six weeks go by.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's struggling to hit 120.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And he's, it's not hitting the ball out of the ballpark.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And then you send him back down for a little bit to trip away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's going to hurt the psyche as much as it would to start in trip away.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to say, prove it again, you got to prove it again, because he didn't necessarily prove it at the AAA level last year, you know, he didn't, he didn't, he wasn't hitting a cover off the baseball in AAA, but every other place he went, he did, and I think it was just more of a, hey, the fans, the team, everybody kind of needs a boost.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's bring, let's bring Eldra job and just kind of go from there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: We know most likely, they're not going to keep Montose and Karnos on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: They both don't have options, so you're not going to be able to keep both of those guys.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But Buster is safe, sometimes he's safe.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so it might just be a, hey, you're going to have to start in AAA.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's see what in Karnos he owned does, even if he has a terrible spring.

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[SPEAKER_02]: he's still on the roster.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He doesn't have any options.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Let's give him a start, you know, at the big club for about a month and see how things go.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But I think also, and I keep going back forth because also you know that this team needs to start hot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: with Vitalo, with finishing 500 the last two years.

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[SPEAKER_02]: This team needs to start hot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so you've got to put your best players on the 26-man roster to start the season.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't think it's time to play safe anymore.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I think it's time to go for it and get these guys in the lineup for maximum damage.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And that's just what I think they should do this year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't know if that's gonna happen,

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[SPEAKER_00]: So back to Beau, the interesting thing about Beau is the giants are going to lose some guys that WBC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Hmm.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So more than likely, because it's Bader and Junghu and Ramos, their entire outfield is actually going to the WBC.

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[SPEAKER_00]: They're going to need guys to fill those spots.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So both avids and Mike get more at bats than even necessarily wants.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So nobody able to see as much as they want of him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And that I think that'll be good.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That'll be something for us to watch and something for us to look forward to is just to see him.

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[SPEAKER_00]: some of you know some of this spring training stuff depending on what the pitching is like in some cases he'll be over match because he'll be facing big leaders in some cases he's he won't because it'll be facing guys like you said who will be nowhere near the big club so that's going to be fun to watch as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think so.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I would love to see we need that youth injection, you know, we've we've seen Matos, we we saw, you know, Luciano, that might be hard news.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Biggest negative.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We've just hit so much of Matos.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, but he'll be starting too because you're going to need those outfielders and he's not going anywhere for the WBC he'll be in San Francisco and so that could help him as well.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, that could help him try to win that last spot.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, it's going to be an interesting spring because anytime you have the WBC things get kind of turned upside down things get a little weird your lineups look very different.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, if I got to see another motto swing where he's so aggressive and mid swing realizes that it's not the pitch that he's going to hit and the end of that swing is not as aggressive as the beginning of that swing and he pops it up or rolls one to short stuff.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm like, I'm done.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's hard with him because he's got the talent and you see the talent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know what I mean?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Like you see it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: When he gets a hold of one, you see the talent.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's there.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So hopefully, 100, 100 men's, I want to keep one to say, 100 pants.

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[SPEAKER_02]: That's going to be a tough one, but is it meant?

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[SPEAKER_02]: Is it meant?

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[SPEAKER_00]: I thought it was meant.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I look at it and I go, men's, but men's.

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[SPEAKER_02]: No, I've heard the hard ass quite a bit this last couple of weeks, but working with him and working with his staff,

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, there's going to be some different hitting philosophies.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's something else to look for in the spring is, you know, how aggressive are these hitters and at the plate and I do strikeouts get cut down quite a bit, because that's another key.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, I can't tell you how many times we're going to season to go, maybe this is the year we cut down on strikeouts and you get a week in, you're striking out eight to 12 times a game and you know, well, that's not it yet.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean that that is probably better a little bit better than what they were doing last year though.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, for sure.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right So we got some games underneath our belt and we got a full schedule of games this coming week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So next week we will have even more things to talk about about this team and

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I want to see all of the things that that we mentioned, but also like, I'm very interested in housing and how did you pronounce his name because we've been pronouncing it different Tyler Molly Molly.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I mean, just with those guys look like at this point, because if we are expecting them to be the three four and then group is just hanging out there, like, I almost wonder if groups like,

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, I'm not, I could be a little bit better than five here.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm the one who's on this team last year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'm ready to go.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I would love to see him kind of push himself up in the rotational a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, I think he's penciled in at three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Everything I've seen, he's penciled in at three.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So, okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Well, but again, I mean, you've got guys like McDonald knocking on the door and you got guys who could, because again, Landon Roop.

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[SPEAKER_02]: really didn't win that job until late in spring where he just kind of passed everybody else up.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And so things like that can happen.

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[SPEAKER_00]: And I haven't heard anything about Mac Scherzer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It looks like maybe Toronto rather than his hanging out with his boy of a tellow.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Okay.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I mean, things happen, injuries happen this time of year is going to be all kind of stuff.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So Mike Valle, before we get out of here, wants to know what we think about the closer, I mean, it's Walker until it's not Walker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And yeah, we talked about that last week.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I don't, there's nobody that's clear cut other than Walker with the experience.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Which is why I'm excited for some of these younger guys who are dialing it up and they're one or two innings, because not to say that,

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[SPEAKER_00]: We need to all of a sudden change the strategy and bring in somebody who could be a starter down the line and just go, we need help in short relief and so thus that's your job.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Because again, they're gonna be more valuable to the club if they can actually be starters, but there are gonna be some guys like that.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I'll tell Mike right now, I'm not confident with Ryan Walker being the closer.

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[SPEAKER_00]: I think Ryan Walker will do some good things this year.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if we go back to last year where he's kind of like, I'm just not really good and maybe I shouldn't be pitch like that kind of stuff is not the closer mentality like Brian Wilson in those two years that he was just lights out he was like.

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[SPEAKER_00]: not only am I the closer I'm going to unbutton my jersey so far down so that you can see my chest hair that's how bad that's how bad I am like like you know yeah he's a character and a half but exactly and that's a little bit more of like the mentality that you want these guys to have and and I'm sure Ryan Walker

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[SPEAKER_00]: is a good dude, everything you read about him is that he's a good dude, but does that mean he's going to have that lights out mentality to be a closer?

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[SPEAKER_00]: So far, I think we've seen instances where his stuff is good enough, but then maybe that mentality, that like cutthroat mentality, like what makes

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[SPEAKER_00]: Edwin Diaz is like a great closer like this dude comes out to music and he's pumping it and you know at some point he's gonna lose the velocity on his fastball and that 102 mile in our fastball is gonna be like 97 and that thing's gonna be sent over the fence until he loses that he can still puff his chest out and be super fiery and shove it up you know guys's asses and stuff we don't have that guy so it's gonna

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's probably not going to be Eric Miller, I think he'll be effective, but he doesn't seem like he's got that stuff, and then, you know, there's other guys like for Garrow and these guys who can kind of fill in, but it really truly doesn't seem like there's one single guy, and, you know, which is why we were kind of like wondering if they're going to do something in the free agency, and they did not, because I.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You know, I think if Ryan Walker and the key to Edwood News, like you said, too, and the key to dibble and the key to Brian Wilson and the key to Rob Men, is that they had confidence in their outpitches.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And if you've got confidence in your outpitch,

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[SPEAKER_02]: that that can carry you a long way as a closer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So it's just a matter of disriding walker, have the confidence in this in the location and the nastiness of his slider because that is the pitch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If he doesn't have the confidence in that and he's out there waffling,

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, you're going to see what we saw last year.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You're going to see what we saw when he came back into the role and things look good, but then they kind of fell off a little bit.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You have the confidence to get back to that to say, I'm still going to throw it, and I'm going to throw it hard.

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[SPEAKER_02]: I'm going to spot it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Because even if a guy, I mean, Roma, we saw Roma.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He threw the slider.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It got ripped out of the ballpark sometimes.

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[SPEAKER_02]: You can come right back and throw that pitch.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The same thing the next night and get the out.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So that's, you know, you got to have the confidence to say, not let it shake you if somebody rocks you on that slider or you're not spotting it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: The main thing goes control.

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[SPEAKER_02]: If you're not spotting your slider, you don't have much else if you're Ryan Walker.

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[SPEAKER_02]: It's decent fastball.

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[SPEAKER_02]: What is it?

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[SPEAKER_02]: 93, 94.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But when you're pairing it with that slider, you can get pretty nasty and and Roman and interview the other day said, yeah, I think Ryan Walker has it.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He throws that thing way harder than I ever did.

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[SPEAKER_02]: And it's nasty just throwing that thing on the mound.

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[SPEAKER_02]: So yeah, like he said, it's it's Walker till it's not

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[SPEAKER_00]: it would go back to Rod Beck RIP Rod Beck like Rod Beck if you looked at him you're like he doesn't really look like a baseball player to the dangles at arm yeah you know he's got that big old beard and the bushy hair and then he's like yeah okay but trying to hit the split finger fastball and like that was the pitch right it's like if if I can get to two strikes

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[SPEAKER_00]: and I'll battle with my fastball and I'll have to be very precise with it to get the strikes that I need.

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[SPEAKER_00]: But if I get to two strikes, splitters come in and I'm going to close this game.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Like Ryan Walker does he believe, okay, my arm angle and the slider, nobody can touch me.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It doesn't sound like he thinks of baseball that way in the way in the sense of nobody can

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[SPEAKER_00]: You know, okay, this pitch is in this spot and I'll get wheat contact here and and great, but it's also why I think he's better as a seventh or an eighth inning guy rather than I think yeah yeah I mean he's got that's the thing is he's got the pitch he's got the signature pitch that's what you need as a closer.

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[SPEAKER_02]: But yeah, like you said, the mentality, can you throw it and think when I throw this pitch with two strikes, you know it's coming, I know it's coming, but I'm, I'm getting you.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So he's, he's got to grow into that, I think.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like breathing to fire out there.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's sent a soft rock.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Yeah, dangles the arm.

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[SPEAKER_02]: Yeah, what did Dibble do throw the ball out in the center field?

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[SPEAKER_02]: And threw it into somebody's chest or something.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, he's like a, he's, it's not rocketing.

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[SPEAKER_00]: He's like, yeah, talk to Madbum over the surface.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Take a little bit of a little bit from each picture.

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[SPEAKER_00]: It's the jalapeno pepper in the nose.

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[SPEAKER_02]: He puts not on a ball.

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[SPEAKER_00]: All right.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We'll be back next week.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Thanks to Mike Vowl for hanging out with us.

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[SPEAKER_00]: That's for great questions.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Great comments.

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[SPEAKER_00]: So for Brad, I am WG.

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[SPEAKER_00]: We will see you when we see you peace out.

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[SPEAKER_00]: Peace.